The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
@ Marlin 1 May, 2013 – 7:58 pm
“Hope you all find merit in my tale weaving – assuming anyone has patience enough to read through it all. I think it kind of does point to a possible path through the jumble of known and unknown facts and may help explain the many Boston oddities as well as this flailing aroundwith the story of what actually happened changing every day. Not unlike Chevalin.”
Indeed I do. It’s a excellent summary.
You said: “3. Tamerlan could have been recruited either before or after that strange murder case that apparently elicited little interest from law enforcement. Why was he not treated as prime suspect in those all along?”
“Their bodies were found covered in marijuana in an apartment in Waltham, Massachusetts, and had their throats slit with a knife or ice pick and around $5,000 was left at the scene.”
“When asked if Tamerlan’s implication in the Boston marathon bombings would make them reopen the case, a spokesman for the District Attorney’s office was guarded. The 2011 triple homicide is an extremely important case for us and remains an active and open investigation.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312814/Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-Friends-suspect-Boston-bomber-murdering-American-friend-2011.html
An ice-pick for throat slitting? Was it symbolic?
Convenient timing for today’s story of arrest of three Kazakhs. Pushed the bothersome biz of Saudi warnings totally out of streaming propaganda. A hint of racism/xenophobia — no reminders the latest lone wolves might be innocent of charges, as they constantly warn re white, American, connected, formerly non-Muslim widow Katherine and family.
Do we have our own CM feet-on-the-ground agents in D.C. who could advise us as to late night pizza deliveries to important offices? An indication of how important and screwed-up this is?
(They must monitor WholeFoods and TraderJoe’s for kale deliveries too, what with 1st Lady’s healthy eating edicts.)
A funny. In CNN vid of the lawyers’ press conference at the Boston courthouse, between two people at the podium, is a uniformed official slightly behind them. Front of uniform identifies him as “POL???” last part obscured. He’s wearing one of the famous Craft caps. An in-your-face Masonic gang sign that for which Masons are noted, or has Boston PD outsourced part of ops?
Just released courtroom sketches depict all three as decidedly “more ethnic” than photos, though that’s totally a matter of interpretation.
Q 9:07pm. Yes, the Russian angle. I’ve been thinking about that lately. All along, I felt that in so far as the martinet killers go, the MO, the efficiency of execution, the ruthlessness of it, the stealthy (sort of) get away, etc. left really only a few state or state-like agencies as candidates. Mossad was one, Russia was another, both with or without CIA collaboration, and either possibly outsourced to professional assassins. With all the information BB, you, NR and Tim V brought up about kazakhstan, the possible involvement with Gareth Williams’ murder and the large sums of money involved, this angle should not be overlooked. The problem in either Al Hillis or Mollier’s case is that there just wasn’t enough of a connection unearthed. It doesn’t mean it’s not there, just that there’s stuff we don’t know about at all (and just as well, perhaps, given tat certain knowledge can result in lone worlves prowling around).
I think this story about Saudi Arabian agents manning the on-line barricades who may have snagged Tamerlan (according to them) could point to how potential connections can be made. For some reason I find this story a little dubious though – too convenient and helpful to the Saudis. may be a diversion, may be part of the jihadi recruitment effort by Saudi Arabia to be used as fodder in Syria.
Ferret
1 May, 2013 – 4:55 pm I agree there are some suspicious “co-incidences” with the Lamberts. They just happen to be next to the Al Hillis on the camp site. They just happen to be at the same remote spot at the time of the massacre. They just happen not to see anything. They just happen to be interviewed by the press. They just happen to return to Britain immediately after cutting their holiday short. Who knows whether or not they were acting as observers?
NR, thanks. One more thing as you keep tabs on the MZT forum, which I checked recently (and took Alex’s car ride). One of their posters (max? Qui?) laid out the rationale for “whos Waldo?”, ie, who doesn’t belong. It was quite logiccal – until the end, when it veered off into AH being the “mask”, which is, not so likely. The logig, based on the Combe d’Ire’s road and topography was that it is highly unlikely that someone who doesn’t know the area or the road would suddenly be there. So SM and WBM know the area (from cycling) and so does the elusive PD. But the AH family? neh….
It was pointed out here (by you and others) that the road being so potholed and narrow that this looks like a curious choice for any avid bicyclist, certainly for one riding an expensive road racer. this simply doesn’t look like a good road for anything other than a hardy mountain bike. Obviously WBM knew what to use, but it would seem SM didn’t. In any case, people who would go that way would do so for a reason (like a little meeting?). In fact, the remoteness of the location, its relative isolation and likelihood of little – if any – traffic – would argue strongly for a “lure”. Yet, for some reason, the good commenters on MZT seem to regard “lureness” as a no-go. Do you know why that is?
I do understand that the interest of people there is more in the mystery crime angle so the news about the conflict between the Molliers and Schuz’es would loom large as possible motive (follow the money, right?). However, while i admit that the local angle cannot be ruled out (just as nothing can at this point) it is curious that out of all their commenters, hardly any point to the strong possibility of state involvement. Strong because of the layers of cover-up – to which they all admit; it’s just ascribed to EM’s and other locally powerful players. Here on CM, this is not ruled out but on MZT they seem very keen to rule out the state actors, despite having no convincing reason to do so.
You have been reading – and cross-posting there (thanks – always good to have your cross references and timely alerts). Why do you think there’s such a reluctance to look beyond the “local” angle over there/ is it because the blog is French oriented and people just don’t care to spend much time fishing across the channel?
Lambert should be treated with caution.
He passed the crime scene earlier.
What does that mean. The carpark ? Chevaline ? The general area ?
He gives interviews with the radio station back in the IoM and the local newspaper there. And when you review his web activities, he’s always trying to get his pictures published with them.
He’s also “in” with the golf club. Now that’s always a worry !
But what other things did this “self styled roving reporter/chief spokesman for “the lonely lake camping club” say ?
He said that Al Hilli was a frequent visitor to that camp site…and that he had played boules with some of the campers the previous year.
How did Lambert know this ?
Did the campsite manager say this to him ?
Was he told this by the “other” people at the campsite ?
If this is “true” then it is interesting.
People generally “holiday” at the same times each year. Maybe due to work schedules, or kids time off school, or some other reason.
What was Al Hilli’s ?
Clearly the “snap decision” to go on holiday was not that “snap”.
His mother in law was over from Sweden. Provision in the caravan would have had to have been made for her.
With the children starting school that very week (one starting “new” one restarting) why did he behave with such disregard ?
You see on one hand we have a man acting in an urgent manner.
And yet on the other, we have a man who had pre planned this in advance. And sometime in advance.
Did he do this “end of season” holiday because of costs ?
Is it to do with something that happens around those dates ?
Is it something that someone else does around those dates ?
@ Marlin 1 May, 2013 – 10:46 pm
I’m reluctant to suggest anything re the MZT investigation, having been badly burned when they took great offense at my “Agatha Cristie” analogy.
Having said that, I think way back there was indeed much discussion of state actors, a possible extraction, what the mysterious alleged “military types” from the UK embassy were doing there, and so on.
Second, Marilyn is running the al Hilli discussion as a sideline to her other work and does not have time or inclination to heavily moderate. She will absolutely not tolerate personal attacks or gratuitous anti-Israels or anti-Iraqi remarks, as happened once when our more vociferous CM people got loose over there with personal attacks.
As to Max’s mask theory, it’s intriguing, but complicated, and it means SM was the sole target, yet the killer(s) were willing to treat an entire family as expendables, just to throw off suspicion.
And there’s the biz of what could be used as a lure to get the SAHs to that obscure spot at that precise time. Watching Alexander’s vid gives a better picture of the area and the timings, but makes it even more unlikely so many principals arrived at that place at that time by coincidence.
MZT has new contributors, one of whom traveled the route earlier, and someone who has analyzed real-world data that bike riders entered into a web page from apps on their phones — auto GPS vs time — so the likely timings of SM and BM are now more refined.
PS: CNN quickly reverted to guvmint stooges. It’s revealed widow Katherine did recognize hubby from pics, but failed to call police. CNN absolutely assures us this is not a crime, perhaps unseemly but not a crime, unlike the vile Kazakhs who failed to report suspicions about a jar of Vaseline.
Mochyn69
1 May, 2013 – 5:39 pm the BBC Crimewatch page is now saying:
“The vehicle was seen some 20 minutes before the shootings on the Combre d’Ire Road around 2 kilometres from the car park.” http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01s9z4z/profiles/france-shootings
So that’s a Kilometre past the entrance sign. Who saw it there? Which direction was it going in? If WBM arrived almost immediately after the shooting, and his journey up the road took half an hour by his estimate, that’s exactly where he’d be. (20/30 = 2/3)
And “Fat Bastard” !
In Arabic does that mean something other than Fat Bastard !
The “godfather” of the children would hopefully have considered a more “pleasing” name.
He claims to have 93 pages of skype conversations between Saad and himself.
Having not lived in England for sometime I do not know how British Telecom are operating, but didn’t they offer “free local call” at one time ??? Is this not so today ?
Why use skype ?
Maybe it is true. Maybe. Who knows. May be Fat Bastard is who he claims to be….
But he doesnt explain why he was using skype. Surely that was an obvious question to ask.
I tend to leave the “crime writers” to their tea and cake debates !
I remember that too James
1 May, 2013 – 5:52 pm. It then seems to have morphed into the Pajero. Then later a white BMW. Then eight months before a formal appeal for the original car? It makes no sense at all. But we agreed that months ago. And as for BBC/Crimewatch, are they part of the solution or part of the problem. Amazingly they now state there have been several calls as a result of the appeal. So presumably those are British callers. Do you really think that given the publicity surrounding this case anyone who might have seen any vehicle on that route would not have informed the police previously? A registration or something distinguishing might have resulted in information this side of the channel. As it is, I saw a BMWX5 in Tesco’s last week. Should I phone?
The only one that come to mind (excuse the pun) NR
1 May, 2013 – 9:58 pm – “An ice-pick for throat slitting? Was it symbolic?” – is a certain Lev Davidovich Bronshtein.
@ James: I think you’ll find the translation is “Mike Myers”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Bastard_%28character%29
@ Mochyn69 I am following MZT so have kept up with developments ,I still follow both forums but this one covers far more stuff than I know anything about so its read only most of the time 🙂
I get the impression that the car that is subject of this new search had been seen around annecy in the days previous to the murder as well, as I use google translate for the french papers things are not always as clear as they might be .
It would be useful if they ruled out MR Lamberts car though so we could strike it off .
@NR I like Max and I never discount anything he comes up with, the mask is a way of making details fit and offers an idea to work with, we still have no idea what got SAH to that lay-by ,personally I dont think sightseeing is likely something got him to make that journey on that day at that time.
“As to Max’s mask theory, it’s intriguing, but complicated, and it means SM was the sole target, yet the killer(s) were willing to treat an entire family as expendables, just to throw off suspicion.”
@ James 2 May, 2013 – 12:22 am
“I tend to leave the “crime writers” to their tea and cake debates!”
I suspect you’ll not be invited to the grand celebration dinner in Paris that’s promised when this is solved. If your clients are busy in the Casbah, can you sneak off for a few hours to fly me over? Charge it to Marilyn’s account. 🙂
@ Tim V 2 May, 2013 – 1:23 am
“The only one that come to mind (excuse the pun) NR
1 May, 2013 – 9:58 pm – “An ice-pick for throat slitting? Was it symbolic?” – is a certain Lev Davidovich Bronshtein.”
You got me good on that one. Never knew his real name. Apologies to quibbling with someone previously over definition, “A mountaineering ice axe, often referred to as an “ice pick” was used in the assassination of Leon Trotsky by Ramón Mercader in Mexico”. We discussed Mercader’s Soviet controller in New York City, code name Luka, and recent threat by Russians to send “a Mercader” after whoever ratted out Anna Chapman.
With Tamerlan they said they were tracking him on the ground in the US prior to his departure for Dagestan. Did they send a Mercader after him? With the Canadian boxer, Russians said they first warned him to return to Canada, but he refused and got himself killed, and Tamerlan suddenly returned to US a few days later.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/01/nyregion/ice-picks-are-still-used-as-weapons.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Back then, mobsters used ice picks not only because the tool was easy to get and did the job, with a needlelike shaft that, unlike a knife, could glide around bones and puncture organs, but also because an ice pick instilled fear. It was employed to send a message, said the detective, Thomas D. Nerney, 72, who joined the New York Police Department in 1966 and worked in virtually every homicide squad in the city before retiring in 2002.“Murder is not only to take somebody’s life away, but to terrorize,” Mr. Nerney said. “The word goes out: ‘Hey, do you want to wind up in the Hudson River wearing a concrete overcoat? Do you want to wind up in a landfill somewhere, stabbed with an ice pick?’ That was the message that went out to the people who didn’t comply with the rules of the Mafia.”
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Note the date of the ice pick message. 10 days before the murder.
Obviously ice picks are used by gangs and by mafia still today.
There was no special message in the Trotzki assassination as we would assume. Trotzki was protected by the army and by bodyguards and tgere was no way coming close to him with a weapon. One day Mercader was left alone with Trotzki in his room while Trotzky did trust him as a journalist he did pretend to be.
The ice pick was the most useful weapon, Mercader found in Trotzki’s room.
No hidden message and no ice pick conspiracy there.
This 09/12 killing looks like a mafia drug killing.
@ NR 11:29 a.m.: Maybe someone misunderstood and sent a “Mercedes” instead. The “Luka” was already out there. 🙂
Talking of all things “unrelated to crime writing”…..
In the real world I saw something just the other day. Had a wee chat to the crew.
And it may link in with some “known unknowns”. But enough of me rambling on….he’s the Financial Times to explain.
“Piracy has proved profitable for some UK companies, whether security firms based in east Africa employing former British soldiers, or UK insurance companies and lawyers making money both from rising shipping premiums and kidnap and ransom insurance”.
You see. It’s an industry that has seen growth in a lot of “sub industries”. The “trust factor” is quite high I imagine. and helped along by the fact “everyone” is carrying a cannon.
Well you have to trust “John” if you’re both sat there staring at with 10 Million Dollars in used notes. And “John” has to trust you.
Of course “Governments” cannot get involved in this. And must be seen not to encourage such behaviours.
Think of the logistics involved. All the “go betweens”. all the “lack of trust”. Mr Insurance man has a “dog in the fight”. He’ll be wanting to keep an eye on the welfare of his dog.
And so it is with Iraq. A growth industry this lark. And a growth “sub industry”.
Has AREVA had any cause to use such services I wonder ?
The article makes for a good read.
The senior western diplomat said two planes, intended for Galkacyo, a contested town on the edge of northern Somalia’s semi-autonomous region of Puntland, were intercepted at Mogadishu airport, the Somali capital, where fierce fighting with al-Shabaab Islamist extremists is a constant feature.
“The guys who brought the ransom in were from a security company based in Kenya,” said the diplomat, who said the cash was intended to release two vessels that were held by Somali pirates according to the International Maritime Bureau. “One plane brought the money in and one was to do the transfer.”
Images published on the Somalia Report website showed two white men averting their gaze or shielding their face with a hand, carrying large black bags over their shoulders and walking towards the central bank. The company faces questions about whether it was attempting to smuggle the cash.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/48c9c06e-887c-11e0-afe1-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz2S95SXCOu
Why anyone would take their Mercedes for repair to an autobody shop that has gone out of business is beyond comprehension:
http://www.bbb.org/boston/business-reviews/auto-body-repair-and-painting/junior-s-auto-body-in-somerville-ma-93747/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLUP0ukG71Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6aJ0S0POjI
I was trying to place Junior’s accent, and found some similarities to this accent, at 1:39. This is strictly for comparison, and no harm intended:
http://vimeo.com/38912460
The clean-cut man from across the country is seen here: http://vimeo.com/gilbertojunior
Now compare accents at 1:22 here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLUP0ukG71Q
Various reports around the internet claim that Tamerlan had a white Mercedes (photograph of him in front of it wearing those snazzy white shoes), his younger brother had a Mercedes that was in an autobody shop for repairs, and even that Tamerlan’s wife had a Mercedes. That’s three. Then the brothers carjacked the mysterious Danny’s Mercedes. That’s four. “Danny” has given one of those shadowy man TV interviews, where he appeared as a dark form.
So now we know that Junior’s Autobody was shut down. Can we eliminate one Mercedes from this story?
If one were into watching TV crime dramas, one might believe that earlobes are highly distinct in each individual, like fingerprints.
http://www.yalescientific.org/2011/05/ears-the-new-fingerprints/
Forget facial recognition. Where’s the ear cam?
It’s “Mercedi”. It’s plural !
And maybe they were a fan.
Hijack the passing car you most prefer.
In Chevaline they like BMW’s.
Wonder what PD’s car was ? Could you just imagine !
BMW 3 series. That would work. They’d cover the range then.
Adam Lanza’s ideas on cars was rubbish.
Strangely, if you go to Google Streets and look at 486 Columbia Street, you’ll see a garage with the name “H & F Motors”. It has a BMW logo. The building has been repainted on one side, but some of the chipped blue paint is seen. On the other side, where the interview takes place, it’s all chipped blue paint:
https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=486+Columbia+St,+Somerville,+MA+&hl=en&ll=42.374778,-71.093878&spn=0.002177,0.003484&sll=42.374860,-71.093767&layer=c&cbp=13,47.5,,1,-1.34&cbll=42.374686,-71.093854&hnear=486+Columbia+St,+Somerville,+Middlesex,+Massachusetts+02143,+United+States&t=h&z=19&panoid=rSdnK07TI2MqkBW7yEnB2Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLUP0ukG71Q
By 2:11 we get a good view of the sign showing “Junior Autobody” and its phone number. Is Junior now running “H & F Motors”? The sign is old. Junior says he is from Brazil. The accent fits.
Strangely, H & F Motors lists its address at 497 and 486 Columbia Street, even though Google Streets shows the address as 486, and the sign on the building, fuzzy as it is, does not read “497”. Maybe they take up two storefronts, with strangely out-of-synch numbering. Maybe they’ve moved recently. H & F states that it has been in business since 1972. They get rave reviews, and the owner of the shop is Farid. One reviewer says the business was previously “Mighty Motors” in Cambridge.
http://www.hfmotors.com/index.html
https://plus.google.com/112168318029792085665/about?gl=US&hl=en-US
All four reviews are from exactly one year ago. Farid fixed the wiring on someone’s car here:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/h-and-f-motors-somerville
Just sayin’.
Haj is connected with Mighty Motors. Previous owner was the late Jim. Mossman 11 is another one of the guys:
http://forum.roadfly.com/threads/12531935-Boston-based-Mighty-Motors
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?885829-Plugging-shop-I-just-started-working-for-in-Somerville-Cambridge-H-amp-F-Motors
http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/52481/al-hilli-murder-breakthrough-inspector-clouseau-needed
“Perhaps he was heading for Lake Annecy, where no one will find him.”
The common threads continue, duly noted by others on this forum.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/29/boston-marathon-bombings-female-dna/2121979/
Satellites used to track “Danny’s” Mercedes in the Quentin Tarantino-like drama:
http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/04/25/carjack-victim-recounts-his-harrowing-night/BhQWGzarWee8MZ6KtMHJNN/story.html
It probably comes as a surprise to many American students that Mercedes are the in thing for foreign students.
@Mochyn69
Thanks for the welcome back 😉
I agree, it’s good to see so many back these days: Pink, Marlin, Mochyn, and anyone else I’ve missed? I’ve been dipping in from time to time when I had a brief moment and have appreciated the regular contributions from Tim, Bluebird, NR, Q and James, keeping it all going strong.
That link to the Torygraph article you sent is weird: say what? They’re looking for a WHITE 4×4 beamer on Apr 15th? A few days later on Crimewatch they’re asking for info on a DARK 4×4 beamer?!? Is it just me? Or is this completely nuts?
Re the Lamberts, I can’t be arsed to go over to MZT to find the nuggets, I’m up to my neck in stuff at the mo, completely crazy… if you have time to post some here that’d be greatly appreciated.
You know what though, Lamberts testimony to the papers (and the fact that clearly he’d bothered to get himself in there, must’ve called up the Manx press himself) gave me the same feeling as that chappie just after 7/7 who got himself in the papers describing Jean Charles de Menezes as “wearing something that looked like a suicide belt” just before he got on the tube, complete load of bollox and makes you go “say what, what does ‘something like a bomb belt’ look like, FFS?”
Highly sus.
@NR
Damn! Sorry to have spoiled your party 🙂 Didn’t realise you were so close to cracking the NWO… I am of course a member of the NVQ (damn again, given it away!)
As someone who used to post here would once have said: Carry On!! 🙂
Iraqi intelligence report (claimed to be):
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2011/10/26/the-doenmeh-the-middle-easts-most-whispered-secret-part-ii.html
Quote: An Iraqi Mukhabarat (General Military Intelligence Directorate) Top Secret report, “The Emergence of Wahhabism and its Historical Roots,” dated September 2002 and released on March 13, 2008, ….
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2011/10/25/the-doenmeh-the-middle-easts-most-whispered-secret-part-i.html
Particularly part 2 (first link) is interesting regarding its roots of descent.
Whether or not this Iraqi intelligence report is the truth i am unable to decide. At least this is news to me but it would make sense.
Wasn’t the al Hilli family close to Iraqi intelligence? Ofcourse they were close.
I recommend to read this as it makes sense although verification might be difficult. When true, we’d have to rewrite history and some recent events would suddenly make sense.
Some background on the above author Wayne Madsen. Did al Hilli leak that Iraqi intelligence report?
Reporting and opinions
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Madsen
In 2002 he suggested to the Guardian newspaper that the United States Navy had aided in an attempted overthrow ofVenezuelan president, Hugo Chavez.[17]In 2003 he said that he had uncovered information linking the September 11 attacks to the government of Saudi Arabiaas well as to Bush administration.[18] In 2005, he wrote that an unidentified former CIA agent claimed that the USS Cole was actually hit by a Popeye cruise missile launched from an Israeli Dolphin-class submarine.[19]On 17 May 2005, Madsen testified regarding American policy in theDemocratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) before a Subcommittee on International Operations and Human Rights hearing on the situation in the DRC. According to thenews magazine New African, Madsens testimony was “was so revealing that the mainstream Western media…have refused to print it.”[20]In 2005 he said that the pro-Israel lobby, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, had pressured American politicians to stay away from protests against the Iraq War.[21]Later that year he criticized the movie industry for indirectly causing suffering inAfrica by promoting diamonds in movies like Breakfast At Tiffany’s and Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. He included Leonardo DiCaprio, whose film Blood Diamond dealt with the issue, as well as Russell Simmonswho is selling a line of “nonconflict diamonds.” Madsen said about them, “It’s a p.r. campaign. They should be saying, ‘Don’t buy diamonds at all.'”[22]In a 2008 ArabNews article, Madsen is quoted as suggesting that the criminal prosecution of New York State governorEliot Spitzer was partly due to the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad.[23]On June 9, 2008 he reported that unnamed “GOP dirty tricks operatives” had found a Kenyan birth certificate registering the birth of Barack Obama, Jr. on August 4, 1961. “However, the registration is a common practice in African countries whose citizens abroad have families with foreign nationals.”[24] This birth certificate was a cornerstone of the “Kenyan Born” subset of the birther conspiracy theories, and Madsen’s article was cited in a Washington state petition challenging Obama’s eligibility to serve.[25]On April 25, 2009, Madsen reported that some unidentified UN World Health Organization officials and scientists believed the 2009 new H1N1 strain of swine flu virus appeared to be the product of U.S. military sponsored gene splicing, as opposed to natural processes.[26][27] While it can not be ruled out that the virus was created in a research laboratory or vaccine factory, the most plausible explanation is that the virus is the result of modern farming techniques. New Scientistmagazine cited the example of a H1N2 influenza pandemic in the 1990s that only affected pigs in the United Kingdom. This subtype of the H1N2 was also areassortment (mix) of swine, human and avian strains.[28]In July 2009, Madsen released a report saying there was a “Q Group” within theNational Security Agency tasked with plugging leaks of classified information and the monitoring and suppression of journalists who report on the NSA. He noted that with the approaching 10th anniversary of 9/11, the group have “made plans to stop any new revelations that would point to high-level U.S. and Israeli government involvement in the 9/11 attacks” that included the use of Wikileaksto identify potential “leakers”.[29][verification needed][unreliable source?][dead link]In 2010, Madsen reported in the Pakistan Daily that unnamed sources suggested that the company formerly known asBlackwater, had been conducting false-flag operations in Pakistan that were blamed on the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan.[30]In June 2012 Madsen self-published his sixth book. The book purports to be an expose of Barack Obama’s rise in American politics and the CIA’s role in his attaining the Presidency. He has been described byAndrew Sullivan of the Atlantic Monthly as a conspiracy theorist.[31]
Final go to see the BBC TV Crimewatch broadcast.
No Iplayer here but someone has put it on YouTube…for those not in Blighty.
So…..
Four by Four.
2 K’s away. (from the top or bottom they didnt say).
20 mins before. (before what ? The phone call from PD ?)
Anyway…I would assume that therefore WBM is the guy that is saying that it was a U.K. plated 4×4. And that he was on the Combe D’Ire at 14.28.
The direction of travel of the 4×4 is not mentioned.
However this is an interesting development.
Was WBM “gagged” ?
Was he “willingly gagged” ?
Why now is this information released ? (it was clearly known).
And why did WBM give the “tamed” interview that he did ?
NB.
He sees a UK car.
He Sees a massacre.
He gives an interview.
…brave man ! (?)
All this “new” info has done is basically shown the French and British police are …… “six across, starts in F ends in ER” !
NR 1 May, 2013 – 3:00 pm [Adding to my previous]
The original uncropped color image:
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1319127.1366209506!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/aptopix-boston-marathon-explosions.jpg
1. Why do the Williams’ friends use a scanned B&W pic from the print version of the NY Post? To give the pic a stamp of credibility?
2. I was mistaken saying the man walking/bending over victim is wearing craft jacket and cap. In color it’s a similar jacket, but red/rust. Craft does sell similar, not identical, black jackets to those that their people wear, called “conceal carry” jackets.
3. What are chances of both alleged bomber bros selecting from their designer-fashion bomber’s closet, jackets and backpacks very similar to what Craft people wear. Were they that fiendishly clever, to know what Craft would wear and selected ensembles to blend in. Caps and you bros lack of sunglasses excepted.
4. As mentioned above, Hero Jeff said Tamerlan gave him bad vibes ’cause he was overdressed for the weather. Many people, some spectators and most all of the Craft people, dressed like that — tee, light zip sweat or hoodie plus heavier outer jacket.
5. In uncropped color version, note Hero Carlos, cowboy hat and flag in hand, standing casually, leaning on fence, overlooking unspeakable carnage. Many others point this out.
I don’t know what to make of some of the victim pics, and tall tales of heros and quickie donation sites.
They can’t all be crisis actors, there are real victims, but it seems some of them are. Was there perhaps some exercise planned after the Marathon, to practice for a disaster while all the emergency responders were present anyway? Did the crisis-actors leap into action, thinking the first real bomb was a fake smoke bomb cue?
Good set of misc. images here, including boat after fierce 200 rounds “exchanged” gunfight. Incidentally boat is said to have 16 bullet holes – semi-Swiss-cheesed. Police need target practice.
http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU