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  • rich

    Apologies if this has been posted already:

    from Ron Paul:
    December 10, 2012 Expanding Covert Warfare Makes Us Less Safe
    http://www.paul.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2032&Itemid=69

    and this from Glenn greenwald
    HSBC, too big to jail, is the new poster child for US two-tiered justice system

    DOJ officials unblinkingly insist that the banking giant is too powerful and important to subject to the rule of law
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/12/hsbc-prosecution-fine-money-laundering

  • macky

    “No, hatred and dislike are not the same. For hatred there has to be fear.”

    I hate to disagree with you, but I fear that you are wrong.

    Does this mean that I am actually afraid of you ?!

  • Fred

    No, it means you don’t actually hate to disagree with me nor fear that you are wrong.

    You are using what are known as “figures of speech” which are not meant to be taken literally.

  • nevermind

    I agree with Zephaniah.
    We should be angry with not being given a choice over the electoral systems avail;able, absolutely pig sick over the postal fraud that is carried out at every election, how postal votes are carried our in old people’s homes and how people are forced to vote along tribal lines in places like Blackburn.

    We should get angry about party politics on the whole and how it has failed Britain miserably, always tugging along corporate lines and making false promises. We really ought to get active in fostering Independent minds that represent all in the constituency.

    Looks like Benji’s Shaolin training is taking effect, lets hope he does ot follow the Blur/red examples of following main party politics, get old and be contempt with honours and accolade, a poet Lord, angry but contempt in his literary anger and willing to share it with other angry birds in their arm chairs.

    Angry is fine, its controllable. The ruthless anger we are seeing in Gaza, Newtown, Yemen and North Waziristan, were remote killers strike with modern weaponry, is predetermined, self perpetuating anger that will guarantee that if you shoot to kill children in a society, you are hurting it at its most innocent core, and guaranteed to raise emotions of fear hatred and more anger, you are sustaining the arms industry, a chimera that use to lumber from boom to bust, has now found a sustainable edge in a world of finite resources and the self perpetuating war on terror.

    how will people cope with the vacuum that is left by anger, is determined by how much love they have left for each other, those who have felt anger and hatred can only be healed by those around them.

    To give dead families kalashnikov’s and money to buy ammunition, when hatred is at its highest, is the devils sustainability policy writ large, an arms producers dream.

  • macky

    @Fred,

    Yep, it was a tongue in cheek reply, but here’s another a little less so; perhaps you can explain how the fear factor works iro some big macho homophobic men towards little effeminate gay guys

  • Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    ” if you shoot to kill children in a society, you are hurting it at its most innocent core, and guaranteed to raise emotions of fear hatred and more anger, you are sustaining the arms industry,”

    Nevermind;

    I assume you refer to the panic-buying of late, post Newtown. I really think it has more to do with this;

    http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/746406.shtml

    There is an agenda here, but I think you have misplaced the direction, and source.

  • macky

    “It’s themselves they are scared of, not the little gay.”

    Perhaps so, on a sub-conscious psycho-analytical level, which you can also probably ultimately strip down most things to, that you have negative feelings towards; but I still contend that stating that you dislike rather than hate such things as Cruelty/Injustice/Evil etc, is rather like saying you are only half pregnant; dislike is a such a weak & self-contained feeling, hardly enough to cause actual outrage, whereas to be filled with enough emotion as to positively hate something, implies an anger that motivates you, and perhaps enough to do something; I rather suspect that those who successfully fought against Apartheid in South Africa, were acting from more than just a feeling of dislike.

  • macky

    @Fred,

    Let’s examine your absolutist position on this further: Say you were a Jew in Germany during the Nazi period, and you needed to go into hiding by seeking shelter with one of your German neighbours; those on the left, you know don’t actually like the Nazis, but the one on the right, you know for a fact detest & passionately hate the Nazis: who would you choose to protect you the most if the Nazis started to threaten or entice people to turn hidden Jews over ?

  • Fred

    Well logically the ones that hated the Nazis feared the Nazis therefore they are probably expecting a knock on the door from the black shirts. The safest place would be with the neighbours who just didn’t like the Nazis, less likely they will get a knock on the door and if they aren’t scared of them they have no reason to give you away.

    Avoid people who hate, they are emotionally unstable, no telling what they will do. If they hate Nazis chances are they hate Jews as well.

  • Anonymous

    ” if you shoot to kill children in a society, you are hurting it at its most innocent core”
    – ‘Occupy’ rose again from the shadows to help the innocent.

    “I would love to live in a country where the government fears its citizens – not the other way around.”

    “We have the ability top break military strength code within 24hrs…”

    We do not forget.

    Expect us.

  • guano

    My car was stolen last week. Can I get a rebate from my council tax for the police not being able to find it by ANPR?
    I think it’s had its number plates changed anyway.

    The Alawis of Assad fame have been driving around on false Islam plates for centuries in order to disguise their absolute absence of monotheistic beliefs from any of the three local faiths.

    They share some deviancies with their neighbours across the Golan heights, such as avatars and ruthless violence.

  • mark golding

    “Why are we there?

    We are in Afghanistan to protect our own national security by helping the Afghans take control of theirs. We do not seek a perfect Afghanistan but one able to maintain its own security and prevent the return of international terrorist groups, such as al Qaeda.

    On 11 September 2001 al Qaeda carried out the worst terrorist attack in history. Nearly 3,000 people, including 66 UK citizens, were killed – the biggest loss of UK life in a single terrorist incident.”

    http://www.number10.gov.uk/policy/afghanistan/

    Robin Cook MP RIP told me that al-Qaeda was the product of Western intelligence and Al Qaeda forces were responsible for the destabilization and ultimate destruction of any nation that was simply unwilling to play ball with globalist organizations such as central banks, war profiteering corporations, etc.

    To me Robin spoke the truth. There exist proof that factions, like Ansar al-Sharia, have been in overall control of the war-torn Libyan state and the so-called “terror” attacks that continue to happen there.

  • Mary

    The revolting Human Rights Watch and what lies behind. Professor Falk has been ejected following objections from one of their groups. See Peter’s contribution here

    http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/thread/1356890451.html

    Atzmon’s take http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/12/watch-human-right-watch-a-tribute-to-professor-richard-falk/

    From The Wandering Who
    ‘I wrote it because I, too, am a wanderer who decided, instead of dwelling on someone else’s land, to leave my homeland. Perhaps Professor Falk endorsed my work, because, like myself, he too is a wanderer. He self-reflects, examining his identity and his notion of justice from a transcendental point of view. Like myself, he is an artist, a poet, a man who searches, against all the odds, for beauty, peace, and truth.’

  • Mary

    Just spotted this by Hidari on Medialens. How outrageous. No need for lobbies or lobbyists. They are embedded.

    “Energy company staff working at climate ministry”
    Posted by Hidari on December 31, 2012, 12:53 pm

    “Almost two dozen employees from companies including the energy giants British Gas and npower are working at the Department of Energy and, in most cases, are being paid by the government to do so, documents released under freedom of information rules reveal. Oil companies such as Shell and ConocoPhillips also have staff inside the department, and civil servants have travelled in the opposite direction to work for the companies.

    The Green party MP Caroline Lucas, who made some of the FOI requests, said: “Fossil fuel giants should have no place at the heart of government given that their current investment strategies run contrary to the need to build a low-carbon future that delivers both security and prosperity. It’s even more outrageous that taxpayers are footing the bill for some of these secondments, including from British Gas-owner Centrica, at a time when British Gas customers are struggling in the face of a 6% rise in their energy bills, and the company is expected to make £1.4bn profits after tax this year.

    “These corporations obviously don’t lend out their employees without expecting something in return.””

    http://m.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/dec/30/energy-companies-climate-ministry-decc

  • Mary

    There is now a bounty on the head of the US Ambassador to Yemen, Feierstein. His son Adam did ‘two tours of duty’ in Iraq as a Marine, so one way or another, Feierstein Snr and Jnr have quite a lot of Muslim blood on their hands.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/yemen/9772220/Al-Qaeda-offers-gold-bounty-for-the-life-of-US-ambassador-in-Yemen.html

    Such crap from the Ambassador here in 2010 when he took up his appointment by Obomber. More like a poisoned chalice in the light of events. http://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Feierstein,%20Gerald%20M1.pdf

  • John Goss

    This is what the Americans are up to in their latest manifestation of paranoia – warrantless spying – that is, they can spy on anybody.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/orwell-in-the-electronic-age-phone-calls-facebook-emails-congress-extends-warrantless-spying/5317346

    The solution to my mind is for everyone to develop some kind of catch-phrase like “The rabbit has taken the lettuce. Ha. Ha.” Change it on a daily basis, several times a day. If everybody did this, as well as creating a bit of fun in a drab drab world it would ‘fox the furrytails, ha, ha’ till they would have to employ so many people to try and decode the nonsense it would ‘jam the starter motor, ha, ha’. The ‘ha, ha’ is important because those really concerned in subterfuge would also be able to add ‘ha, ha’ too to real coded messages. It would cause so much confusion the spooks would eventually ‘vanish in a puff of ectoplasm, ha, ha.’

  • glenn_uk

    Why is the BBC going on and on about this supposed “fiscal cliff”, when it really is for the most part a non-issue? It’s led every news bulletin for a couple of days now. It’s bad news for the long term unemployed, about 2M of them, who will stop receiving income support almost right away. For everything and everyone else, it will take a while to even notice any effect. And that effect is hardly a bad thing in any case. What’s with the hysteria?

  • Vronsky

    I’m surprised to hear ‘fiscal cliff’ mentioned on the mainstream. It’s usually just folk like Golem XIV and ClubOrlov (Google them) who talk about that stuff.

    I was having some seasonal musings though, looking at the informed predictions for the great cinema hits of 2013. Apparently it will be more Marvel comics superheroes. I’ve got a sort of intuition (worry?) that there is some deep psychological thing going on in the USA. Have ‘superpowers’ something to do with Superpower? What’s so sexy about invulnerability, when you know it ain’t possible? There must be some parallel from the past, there is nothing new under the sun. What were the final fantasies of the Caesars? I must get back into Gibbon and Graves, it will be predictive.

    And I get so pissed off when someone proudly tells me they won’t be buying ‘Call of Duty’ for their kids, but they’re off to see the latest Bond movie.

    In short, harumph.

    But at this time, to all,

    slàinte mhath

    and to some,

    saor alba

  • Mary

    They seek him here, they seek him there….

    Makes a change from the fiscal cliff rhubarb.

    BBC BREAKING NEWS:Police seek a man, who is the subject of terror control measures and is believed to have absconded

  • Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    ” What’s with the hysteria?”

    In a word…Petrodollars. A default will spin us out of control.

  • glenn_uk

    Hey Ben – but a default is not what’s being talked about here. That’s about the raising of the debt ceiling, a failure to do so would amount to a default and pretty serious consequences all round.

    This “fiscal cliff” is more like a gentle slope, or even a speed bump, which is not the massive must-get-it-done super-important economy-wrecking disaster being portrayed by the lazy, ignorant hacks in the news media.

  • Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    “This “fiscal cliff” is more like a gentle slope, or even a speed bump, which is not the massive must-get-it-done super-important economy-wrecking disaster being portrayed by the lazy, ignorant hacks in the news media.”

    They’re tied at the hip, here. But, you are right about the level of hysteria about raising taxes (both payroll and Federal taxes), Glenn. That’s the boogeyman the public understands.

    We, in the US can’t be bothered with the nuance

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