I am delighted that a new canpaign has started today against the state enforced child slavery in the uzbek cotton industry, especially as this campaign originates in Germany, where a significant portion of society appears to have finally woken up to the reality of the German government’s appalling complicity in the Nazi style regime and atrocities of Karimov.
However in the UK it remains the case that since the coalition government came to power, there has not been one single government statement on the human rights atrocities in Uzbekistan or – even more damning of our sham democracy – one single statement or question from New Labour.
Hi Craig,
After reading your post, I felt I had to help spread the word…I hope you don’t mind. I wrote the following post after watching both video’s.
http://www.irishmanabroad.com/2013/01/cotton-on-uzbekistans-white-gold-make-regime-rich-on-slave-labour/
sorry, Mary at 17h14 today.
Let me get this straight. You’d prefer it if sex-offenders (who happen to be Asian) are abusing young girls in their “forefathers” country rather than being kept under watch in the UK? Certainly fits with your previous sadistic tastes. Did you get a sexual thrill out of writing, “practice their bestial predilections on young girls”?
Thanks for that Mark, what a tome, 3hrs.plus, I’ve started so I shall finish.
Cameron is in a spin dryer. having cancelled his speech, they are still working on it, for the sake of unaccounted ongoing situations, he’s a bit of a chicken, me thinks, flustering when it counts.
Hollande is using an incident, long planned, going by some Quilliam foundation ex terrorist’s statement, called Benaton, situated between Libya and Algeria, hundred of miles away from Mali, as his impetus to strike Mali’s AQM.
Listening to Clinton’s babe tonight, everyone is interested in Mali, very interested, it has a lot of oil, gold and other minerals so it seems, a US/western magnet par excellence, anything to get away from the business of the devils derivatives.
Western countries are like pirates, because their financial systems are winging it, are based on a big fat zero, might and power and bang over ownership and principled diplomacy, what a fuck up! when western leaders do not understand the word sustainable, are hell bent on carrying on with their psychopathic endeavours.
Mark G., Bryzinski’s ‘the grand chess board’ the adopted and adapted guidelines of Ramsi Yousefs Boyinka plot methods have fooled humanity and western apathetic onlookers like us, we have been hoodwinked something rotten and WE should MEET!
Or is it too late?
@ Anon : do you always answer a question with a question? Cluck! Cluck! Cluck!
PS – don’t condemn me, condemn the child groomers and abusers! Unless you secretly approve, of course….
Habbabkuk,
When the questions are as fucking stupid as yours are. Yes.
I note you haven’t denied being a complete arsehole recently. I’ll have to take that as evidence you clearly believe you are.
wow, Anon, I seem to have hit your G-spot, haven’t I?
PS – some advice : never accept anything as “evidence” without checking it thoroughly, it saves you from making a fool of yourself.
Habbabkuk
Direct more shit like this at Mary (and no, I don’t know her) and yes, you’ll wind me up. Oh well at least your picking on me now and not Mary.
Just stop it.
And that’s what I think this forum is all about. I’m surprised you haven’t noticed before.
“You are picking on me” obviously.
“In order for me and others to better evaluate her point of view, could Mary please name a country or two which she does consider civilised?”
Well I don’t know about Mary but to my mind the countries which are most civilised are those which strive to live in peace with other countries, those that don’t go round firing hellfire missiles at innocent women and children. Countries like Iceland, Switzerland, Iran. Britain’s attacks on other countries for financial gain must put them well down the list, America must be near bottom.
If the world is to become civilized then countries must live together in a civilized society, not use violence against each other, not steal from each other, not try to bully or intimidate each other and abide by the rule of law. If countries were people which would you consider most civilised, the ones that minded their own business or the ones that went out breaking into other people’s houses, stealing anything valuable, killing their children, raping their wives and then burning their house down?
Habbabkuk same shit, different day. How I wish there was an “ignore user” facility on here.
Mary at 9.42 pm.
It’s called ‘Dr David Kelly and Matters of International Importance’. It’s a closed FB group only open to members and Thames Valley Police.
@Habbabkuk, I see it didn’t take to long to revert back to type; so we find out that for you British born Asians are not really British, and so can be deported for crimes that others (presumably “real ethnic Brits” in your view), , cannot be.
Are you prepared to also express your revulsion iro the people involved in the follwing sex-rings ;
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police-launch-criminal-investigation-into-mps-child-sex-ring-8456434.html
http://www.timesofisrael.com/teenage-prostitution-ring-busted-in-tel-aviv/
Further, would will you go on record as steoretyping MPs & Israelis as having “bestial predilections”, as you have for Asians ? Can you also bring yourself to admit that child sex-rings also occur in other ethnic groups apart from Asian ?
One of the Freedom of the Press Foundation’s first bundle, the National Security Archive, appears to have hit paydirt:
The ‘Dynamite’ Pentagon Interview Behind ‘Zero Dark Thirty’:
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/01/17/the_dynamite_pentagon_interview_behind_zero_dark_thirty?page=0,1
Here’s the full Zero Dark Thirty file on the National Security Archive site:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB410/
and – this is just something that’s niggled me since I first saw this file when it was released by Wikileaks as part of the Guantanamo Files in late April 2011 (only a matter of days before the Navy Seals raid on the Abbottabad compound) – the US knew of the link between Osama bin-Laden’s courier and Abbottabad from at least September 2006. Not Abu al-Kuwaiti though, as mentioned in the above ‘Dynamite’ Pentagon interview (and what little other ‘official’ info that’s been given about bin-Laden’s killing), another courier: Abu Faraj al-Libi. Read the 2nd paragraph on page 5 of his Detainee Assessment here:
http://wikileaks.org/gitmo/prisoner/10017.html
Thoughts, anyone? Personally, I have never quite been able to shrug off the feeling I had when news of Osama bin-Laden’s killing first broke, and particularly in the days that followed, with all the obfuscation that was going on, that – contrary to all the above ‘official’ Pentagon narrative and that of Zero Dark Thirty of a slow build-up of intelligence over years and weeks of meticulous planning for the raid itself – it was actually a bit of a rush-job in response to the Guantanamo Files release, as if they had the potential to reveal that the US administration knew full well where Osama was stashed all along.
https://pressfreedomfoundation.org/
Sweet – John. Your Welcome Nevermind. Silent Witness…spooky synchronism Mary
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Alert divertissement!
A ‘rush job’ indeed Arbed – and Paula Broadwell knows the truth. I’m curious as to long she will remain silent.
@ Anon : you reply in vulgar and crude manner to a post of mine, and when I reprimand you you accuse me of “picking on you”? What a strange train of thought. Are you all there?
@ Exexpat : cogently argued and elegantly phrased, well done!
@ Macky : you must learn to pay attention and read what you see, not what you would like to see. The answer to your 1st and 3rd questions is “yes” (sorry to disappoint you); the 2nd question is based on a misrepresentation and therefore does not require an answer. BTW, would you now like to answer the questions in my original post?
@ Fred : so you would include Iran in your list of civilised countries, would you? Spot of stoning to death for adultery, anyone? Or a swift amputation?
@ Mary : acting perhaps “in loco parentis” for you, Fred has identified Iceland, Switzerland and Iran as civilised countries.
When you get round to answering my question, please don’t forget to tell us whether you would endorse Fred’s selection.
Many thanks, again.
As well as all the other bollocks:
Hubbubcook writes:
— Standard racism.
“In order for me and others to better evaluate her point of view, could Mary please name a country or two which she does consider civilised?”
Depends what you call civilised, but – as far as I know – Wales and Ireland have distinguished themselves by having never invaded and/or occupied any other country.
Habbabkyk and Kempe, shades of chosen behaviour, no respect for goyim intelligence, and usual disdain over “sum dum goyim” cattle. Masquerading as Robert Maxwell. Mark Urban, Nick Robinson, Gavin Esler, Esther Rantzen, etc.
Sky News have just transmitted a very disturbing report on Red Lion abattoir that slaughters horses, mostly ex racehorses. A case of man’s inhumanity to animals this time rather than man’s inhumanity to mankind.
http://news.sky.com/story/1040057/horse-abattoir-film-reveals-welfare-breaches
Again the Food Standards Agency’s incompetence is exposed. On sight of the report, they have withdrawn the abattoir’s licence.
The slaughterhouse gave an assurance that the meat was not involved in the recent burger scandal and that the meat is exported to the continent. Larry Goodman’s ABP offshoot Silvercrest has been temporarily closed incidentally.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/republic-of-ireland/production-halted-as-tests-turn-up-more-horse-dna-at-irish-meat-factory-16262995.html
I suppose that mechanically recovered meat slurry is being added as filler in the products displayed in those long lines of freezer cabinets in the supermarkets.
Where is Willy Walsh when he’s needed? Passengers were sitting in a plane for six hours and then turfed off. The waits in some cases were so long that cabin crews exceeded their working time allowance and crews had to be replaced. Yet a third runway is being requested.
BA sorry for luggage and flight problems caused by snow
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-21095656#
His salary and for other executives in IAG (BA and Iberia) BIG money.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ae411af6-7e70-11e1-b20a-00144feab49a.html#axzz2IPH6l500
@ Thatcrab (01h44) “As well as all the other bollocks:”
I admit I put in the last couple of lines, which you of course pick up on, as a kind of provocation, knowing that you would all seize on them rather than answering the basic question which immediately preceded, but….what exactly is “bollocks” in the rest of my post? Any thing inaccurate or tendentious there?
“so you would include Iran in your list of civilised countries, would you? Spot of stoning to death for adultery, anyone? Or a swift amputation?”
But compared to dropping atom bombs on Japanese cities that does sorta pale into insignificance don’t it?
@ Glenn_uk :
Firstly, thank you for responding in a civilised manner (unlike several others, whom I can only describe as foul-mouthed thugs).
“Depends what you call civilised..” – you put your finger on it, it’s a matter of definition, isn’t it. You’ve advanced the criterion of never having invaded or occupied another country, which, although perhaps questionable (was the Allied occupation of Germany a good or bad thing?), could be one criterion. There are obviously alternative ones.
I suppose that what I was objecting to was the sheer silliness of Mary’s originaln, ex cathedra statement that the UK was not a civilised country (and not a society) and I therefore offered her the opportunity to justify that statement, so to speak, by puting forward a couple of countries she would find civilised.
It is off course entirely typical of Mary that, ever regal, she sweeps on not with an answer but with posts on, firstly horsemeat and then Willy Walsh.
We’ve already seen off a Pope Joan, do we really want a Pope Mary?
Fred : making comparisons can be useful, provided that you make relevant and sensible comparisons. Haven’t you just made what’s known as a category mistake?
It has been argued that dropping the two atoms bombs shortened the war with Japan by at least half a year and saved many more lives than those who perished at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. What, would you argue, is the ‘positive’ about stoning women to death or amputating limbs?
Habbabkuk
I am making the sensible comparisons, it’s obviously sensible that incinerating a hundred thousand women and children in someone else’s country is a hell of a lot more uncivilised than having a harsh penal system in your own.
And as for the saving lives excuse, that was bullshit then and it’s bullshit now, if you had been paying attention then you would know why.
This FoI request will interest John, Mark and others here.
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/questions_about_photographs_of_d/new
For all those who like to keep an eye on developments in the Assange extradition/Wikileaks Grand Jury investigation, and those who having been following the coverage of Aaron Swartz’s suicide.
Some journalists have been digging into the reasons behind the US DoJ’s persecution of Aaron Swartz. First, there’s this:
http://www.emptywheel.net/2013/01/13/two-days-before-cambridge-cops-arrested-aaron-swartz-secret-service-took-over-the-investigation/
Not conclusive of anything much, but the involvement of the Secret Service in Swartz’s JSTOR case is odd. I understand it’s well off their patch. Then there’s this:
http://www.emptywheel.net/2013/01/18/was-aaron-swartz-effort-to-foia-bradley-mannings-treatment-why-doj-treated-him-so-harshly/
In December 2010 through early 2011 Aaron Swartz was persistently FOIing David House’s visits to Bradley Manning in Quantico. That article includes a handy timeline to bear in mind when reading this Wall Street Journal article, dated 9 February 2011:
Assange probe hits snag:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703313304576132543747598766.html
The Empty Wheel blog is starting to put two and two together, here:
http://www.emptywheel.net/2013/01/19/the-six-week-delay-in-the-swartz-investigation/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=the-six-week-delay-in-the-swartz-investigation
And then comes this:
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/292503580135538688
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/292503892569239552
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/292504484016439296
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/292504975865692160
Holy Hell!