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In the week they took hundreds of pounds from people in severe poverty, MPs and Lords claim up to £3,750 each to return from their luxury holidays to spout off in honour of Margaret Thatcher. Meantime the media are busy classifying any potential protest or expression of opinion at the taxpayer funded funeral jamboree as “potential terrorism”.

Whether protest at the funeral is tasteful or not is a fair question. But there is no question it is perfectly lawful. There is virtually no understanding of the very notion of civil liberty in the mainstream media.


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  • Je

    You’re forgetting how she saved the whole country from economic collapse. We would have gone back to the stone age and all been living in animal skin tents lamenting the lack of a boadicea to leads and remembering the good ol’ day when folk had electric and shoes. Well, that’s the impression I get when I don’t turn off quick enough when another wall-to-wall tribute starts…

  • English Knight

    “There is virtually no understanding of the very notion of civil liberty in the mainstream media”

    Lord Leveson and cabal know all about civil liberties, but even more about the cabala required to stifle them. Esoterically, a critical mass of consciousness is required to break the grip (or spell)of the rupert mordechai devils in the press , led at its apex by the Assange and Bradley Manning kind of souls. The ultimate target of Joe Lieberman in America was to make it a crime to even watch a 911 denial video on YouTube let alone the right to only march on the high street !!

  • Sal

    Protest at funerals is a powerful political tool, used around the world. ‘Taste’ doesn’t come into it, much as our rulers would like us to think it did. A public funeral is a powerful statement which should be countered by those who oppose what it is praising. Indeed, as this one is publicly funded, it should probably be open to the public, and we should all be able to join the cortege, singing and dancing, as we see fit. At the very least, we would seem to be entitled to demand that broadcast coverage is balanced. Equal time should be given to the ceremonies, opinions and spokespeople of the opposition.

    A quiet, private funeral, attended by family and friends in their personal grief, would very likely be left alone.

  • doug scorgie

    Following the death of former British Premier Margaret Thatcher, the song “Ding Dong! The witch is dead” from the movie The Wizard of Oz has leaped to the top of the most popular British songs.

  • DtP

    And start at 2.30!!! Geez, it’s almost as if it’s been planned so they can meet their mates, have a lovely lunch on the terrace washed down with a decent claret and then go and spout shit for 5 minutes before getting back to the boozer. Tough work down t’pits thee knows?

  • DomesticExtremist

    At the Telegraph, which only a few weeks ago was bleating
    about the effects of Leveson on their ability to express
    free speech, comments are still closed on all of the many
    suck-up articles about thatcher.

  • Mary

    As I said earlier when I mentioned the Sky News banner announcing it, ‘they’ are laughing in our faces, again.

  • guano

    The 1979 Tories bought its ideological opponents with jobs as well as starving or imprisoning activists. Very, very few ideological opponents found themselves able to resist their bribery.

    In the absence of ideological opposition and in the face of imprisonment for criticising Mrs Thatcher’s ideas, most opponents gave up, leading to the creation of an artificial opposition, in the form of the (Tory) New Labour party.
    We only know now 30 years later how much damage Mrs T had done.

    It reminds me of the tactics of the present Salafist Islam, wrong in ideology, violent to all opposition, fed by a neo-Con gravy train, set up by the CIA to force people to embrace a false opposition in the form of the Muslim Brotherhood. We will know in 30 years time how much damage they have done.

    Crass? There are no words to describe the qiyanat/betrayal of those who sell themselves and their ideals for money/power. there are many Arabic words in the Qur’an which describe this sacrifice of Truth for temporary gain. Fasad, Fusuq, Chusr/ wikipedia : Fasad (Arabic: الفساد) is corruption, unlawful warfare, or crimes against law and order in the Muslim community. Fasad is a general concept of social disorder…

  • Mary

    It gets worse.

    Currently on Ch 81, a repeat of Whittingdale giving a lecture on Thatcher – ‘1911 Centenary Lecture’ November 2012

    Then on Ch 81 from 14.30 until 23.00 live coverage of the commons ‘debate’/eulogy/
    whatever.

    On BBC 2 from 14.10 until 16.00 ‘Andrew Neil presents live coverage of the parliamentary debate following the death of Baroness Thatcher and is joined in the studio by Ken Livingstone and Edwina Currie.’

    Yuk.

    PS I never knew of Whittingdale’s Rothschild connection.

    From 1982-4, Whittingdale was Head of the political section of the Conservative Research Department. He then served as Special Adviser to three successive Secretaries of State for Trade and Industry, Norman Tebbit, 1984-5; Leon Brittan, 1985-6, and Paul Channon, 1986-7. He worked on international privatisation at NM Rothschild in 1987 and in January 1988, became Political Secretary to the Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher. Upon her resignation, Whittingdale received the OBE and he continued as her Political Secretary until his election to Parliament in 1992
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Whittingdale

  • Mary

    Correction Whittingdale was speaking in 2011.

    Cannot see any reason here why the series of lectures is labelled 1911 Centenary Lectures apart from the fact that there was a coronation and a census. Note every seventh person was a domestic servant. How lovely. Yet we still have the Downton Abbey and Upstairs Downstairs crap thrust at us.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1911_in_the_United_Kingdom

  • John Goss

    Tom Kennedy, I had to laugh. You’ll be giving all the drunks from the wicked witch street-parties ideas.

    She was brought up a Methodist, like George W. Bush, oh, and me. God, how could I have got myself into that company? Anyway, they should not get 12 year-olds to sign a pledge that they would never drink alcohol. It made me feel awful guilty for a short while. I think it was the guilt that made me throw up to begin with. I found you can get used to most alcoholic poisons in the end. I’ll drink to your wit Tom Kennedy.

  • Tom Welsh

    Sorry, Craig, I can’t take this. I have enjoyed following your blog, but I shan’t in future.

  • David Park

    Hi Craig. Re your blog post concerning the desirability of ODIHR overseeing the independence referendum, a corresponder has received this reply;

    “In accordance with ODIHR’s election observation methodology, the deployment of an election observation activity requires an invitation from the respective OSCE participating State. Existing OSCE commitments do not oblige participating States to invite ODIHR to observe at referendum, nor is ODIHR required to respond positively if such an invitation is received.

    Some states have issued such invitations and the Office has observed a small number of referenda in the past. In the case of the upcoming referendum in Great Britain, ODIHR would consider undertaking an observation activity upon invitation by the Government of the United Kingdom. The media environment and the nature of the coverage of the referendum would be among the aspects of the campaign that such an election observation activity would assess.”

  • resident dissident

    She was brought up a Methodist, like George W. Bush, oh, and me. God, how could I have got myself into that company?

    Might I suggest you go and read EP Thompson’s The Making of the English Working Class to understand why this is the case.

  • resident dissident

    I do hope that all those contemplating a protest at Thatcher’s funeral do engage their brains first – anything without dignity will just play into the hands of the Thatcherites – a quiet turning of backs would probably make the point better than anything else.

  • Mary

    Will the new archbishop be taking the service next Wednesday?

    How about this for trimming? Running with the hare and hunting with the hounds or whatever the saying is.

    It is really surprising that, in an interview with The Jewish News, Archbishop Welby, who is scheduled to visit Israel in June, now says he should have voted against a General Synod motion that endorsed the Ecumenical Accompaniment Programme in Palestine and Israel (EAPPI), which was passed by the Synod last year (News, 29 June 2012, Synod, 13 July 2012

    http://civilisation3000.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/it-is-hoped-that-the-archbishop-of-canterbury-will-see-the-work-of-eappi-and-meet-palestinians-and-israelis-working-for-a-just-peace/

  • Je

    It gets a lot more crass. The funeral is going to have a “Falklands War theme”. Never mind the people who did and didn’t live to die in their sleep in their 80s in the Ritz like she did.

  • Komodo

    Prefer Hazlitt, RD –

    “But Legitimate Governments (flatter them
    as we will) are not another Heathen mythology. They are nei-
    ther so cheap nor so splendid as the Delphin edition of Ovid’a
    Metamorphoses. They are indeed “Gods to punish,” but in
    other respects men of our infirmity. They do not feed on
    ambrosia or drink nectar ; but live on the common fruits of the
    earth, of which they get the largest share, and the best. The
    wine they drink is made of grapes : the blood they shed is that of
    their subjects : the laws they make are not against themselves :
    the taxes they vote, they afterwards devour. They have the same
    wants that we have: and having the option, very naturally help
    themselves first, out of the common stock, without thinking that
    others are to come after them. With the same natural necessi-
    ties, they have a thousand artificial ones besides; and with a
    thousand times the means to gratify them, they are still voracious,
    importunate, unsatisfied. Our State-paupers have their hands
    in every man’s dish, and fare sumptuously every day.
    They live
    in palaces, and loll in coaches. In spite of Mr. Malthus, their
    studs of horses consume the produce of our fields, their dog-ken«
    nels are glutted with the food which would maintain the children
    of the poor. Tbey cost us so much a year in dress and furniture,
    so much in stars and garters, blue ribbons, and grand crosses, —
    so much in dinners, breakfasts, and suppers, and so much in
    suppers, breakfasts, and dinners. These heroes of the Income-
    tax, Worthies of the Civil List, Saints of the Court-calendar
    (compagnons du lys)
    , have their naturals and non-naturals, like
    the rest of the world, but at a dearer rate. They are real bona
    fide personages, and do not live upon air. You will find it easier
    to keep them a week than a month ; and at the end of that time^
    waking from the sweet dream of Legitimacy, you may say with
    Caliban, ‘Why, what a fool was I to take this drunken monster
    for a God !

  • A Node

    I’m not saying absolutely definitely that she had wandered off from the Ritz in her nightgown in the middle of the night, staggered round the streets of Piccadilly, wide-eyed, dribbling, piss running down her leg, mumbling “I am the queen .. I AM the queen …” and clambered into the back of a dustbin lorry where she was crushed to death.
    But if she had done, they would hush it up and say she died peacefully in her sleep in her bed in the Ritz.

  • guano

    I remember we had three small children, and because we were self-employed we had no benefits of any kind. Every day the Thatcher government would give you your daily wind-up. Sending money to Saddam, having cups of tea with Milosevic, refusing to intervene in Yugoslavia, Poll Tax, dentist fees, closing mines, importing US advisors.

    This funeral ought to see the biggest demonstration ever of protest at the destruction of representation of the people in the process of government. It ought to be the day when the police are kettled into the public toilets by the protesters and have to wee in their battle-gear like US soldiers in Iraq.

    It ought to be the day when the world’s leaders are kettled into St Pauls Cathedral with the mausoleums of the mafia of the British Empire, while the City of London makes whoopee for the passing of their Guru and the survival of her values through the treachery of the Liberal Democrats.

    If ever there was a fully bought-up member of the ideological opponents to Thatcherism, it is Nick Clegg.

  • doug scorgie

    Tom Welsh
    10 Apr, 2013 – 2:15 pm

    “Sorry, Craig, I can’t take this. I have enjoyed following your blog, but I shan’t in future.”

    Why Tom?

    Can you not explain yourself?

  • Jonangus Mackay

    Thatcher fans & apologists loll deaf-blind to the import of Autumn ’08—that Britain’s economy is yet to suffer the full catastrophic effect of her & Mr Tony’s sustained State-sponsored fraud.

  • CanSpeccy

    ” There is virtually no understanding of the very notion of civil liberty in the mainstream media.”

    And virtually no understanding of the very notion of civilization in some branches of the alternative media.

    But you’re right, it is stupid or worse to confound the yobbish, “why should we work,” and “share de welf” mentality with terrorism.

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