194 thoughts on “Alisher Usmanov

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  • Dreoilin

    Web translators are a hoot.

    What Google translate offers as

    “The alleged here is not only unverified rumors, but also including Craig Murray, former British ambassador to Uzbekistan, who said Usmanov is one of the most serious mafia territory of the former Soviet Union. Murray claims Usmanov to Putin on behalf of independent Russian media silence work sheets and labels by buying.”

    is rendered by Bing translator (from the original, not from Google) as

    “The supposed to be here not just unverified rumours, but among other things, Craig Murray, former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan, who according to Usmanov is one of the most serious in the territory of the former Soviet Union as the Sopranos. Murray claims, on behalf of the independent Russian Putin Usmanov media acquisition and publishers work with dissident * voices.”

    Hilarious

  • Dreoilin

    I hereby dub this thread Smörgåsbord.

    [I’ll now stop shouting from the dungeon.]

  • Vronsky

    Treading carefully round the edges of the oubliette, immediately after ix/xi I remarked to a drinking pal that it was blowback, like the Alamo (I’m silly, and thought that at the time). It’s not the Alamo, said he. It’s the Little Bighorn – a massacre that justifies an end to restraint.

  • Roderick Russell

    @ Suhayl Saadi – 19 May, 2013 – 12:13 pm re your comment “Men-in-bags, men hung from shower rails, men given Hiroshima in their tea. It really is stranger than fiction”
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    This is what one gets when the politicians are too scared of their intelligence / security services to monitor them honestly. Sooner or later they morph into a secret police and, once they have done that, they behave like a secret police – doing illegal business for power-elites and on their own account.
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    Who are the “behind the scene” power elites? Well, in my view they include the Monarchy and those around it (courtiers, high aristocracy, etc.); top members of the legal establishment, and of London’s banking/finance elite; and, of course, the secret security / intelligence services have themselves become a power-elite – and probably include anybody with considerable money who can hire the right (expensive) security agency (staffed by former MI6/5 people?), or an influential legal firm for an outrageous fee. Of course many of these power-elites don’t subscribe to such criminal methods, but there are also many who do.
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    As for the Members of Parliament – they are powerless. Any MP who challenged the influential would be marginalized in the early stages of his career – that’s how secret police work. I could sight many examples from my own case, but let’s just take one. Some years ago an MP was helping me in my quest for justice. Then a newspaper article targeted him for criticism on another matter, grossly unfairly. The article was quickly retracted, but I did notice that his enthusiasm for my case seemed to wane abruptly from that date.
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    I also wonder whether the “Common Law” legal system, and the institutions that have developed to support it, are up to the challenges of the present day. Draconian libel laws that hamper free speech, a judiciary appointed by power-elites to serve their interests, a lack of equality before the law, so many unusual murders and persecutions (as Suhayl refers to) where justice is deliberately denied. Think of the Denis Lehane case.
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    http://www.quartetbooks.co.uk/bookpages/unperson.html
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    This happened in modern Britain. It could not happen in a democracy. We need constitutional change.

  • Indigo

    @Roderick Russell

    And who will decide the new constitution in a country that doesn’t have a written one?

    Check and mate methinks.

  • Vronsky

    @Indigo

    “And who will decide the new constitution in a country that doesn’t have a written one?”

    Crowdsource it like the Icelanders, though it remains to be seen if they implement. I hope that the Scottish constitution will be crowdsourced. My next project!

  • Indigo

    @Vronsky

    Will join you on that … still feel as if I have a vested interest.

  • April Showers

    A lot was being made by BBC London News just now on the £3m cost of policing the Ecuadorean Embassy since Julian arrived one year ago. There was some adverse vox pop stuff plus two Australian women who asked the reporter if he thought Julian would get a fair trial! No reply was given.

    The reporter was filmed ringing at the door of the Embassy asking for interviews with either Julian or the Ambassador but was declined. The reporter said that Julian Assange ‘was wanted in the US on charges of espionage and in Sweden on allegations of sexual abuse by two women.’

    Pathetic stuff.

  • Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    April @ 6:58

    Yeah. They’re so concerned about fiscal responsibility they strain out the gnat, and swallow the camel whole.

  • Kempe

    “The reporter said that Julian Assange ‘was wanted in the US on charges of espionage…. ‘

    Pathetic stuff.”

    Isn’t it just; and to think he/she gets paid for it.

  • Giles

    “Who are the “behind the scene” power elites? Well, in my view they include the Monarchy and those around it (courtiers, high aristocracy, etc.)”

    Seriously, Rod, you’ve got to stop watching PressTV.

  • Giles

    TFS,

    Details of Tony and Hilary’s inheritance tax avoidance sheme are available online. DYOR!

    I do admire Tony in a way. He clearly has a lot of guilt about living in a multi-million pound mansion, so he closes himself off in a remote wing with sparse furniture and minimal lighting.

    For the record, I don’t have much of a problem with legal measures to reduce one’s tax bill, and nor do I object to luxury mansions, but to be a socialist and a hypocrite is truly bad form!

  • Giles

    I’d like to know from the Anti-Zionists and Assange supporters on here, if Julian does have “mountains of shit” on Israel, why doesn’t he publish it?

  • Jives

    Giles,

    “I do admire Tony in a way. He clearly has a lot of guilt about living in a multi-million pound mansion, so he closes himself off in a remote wing with sparse furniture and minimal lighting.”

    Oh dear.Are you aware how absurd that sounds?

    Almost as absurd as the notion that Tony Blair is/was a Socialist.

  • April Showers

    7.58 Has ‘Tony’ got another bit on the side called ‘Hilary’?! Does Cherie know?

  • Fred

    “I’d like to know from the Anti-Zionists and Assange supporters on here, if Julian does have “mountains of shit” on Israel, why doesn’t he publish it?”

    What could he have that is worse than what is already known?

    Nobody wants to know, the media don’t want to publish the people don’t want to believe, evidence is useless when the world is in denial.

  • doug scorgie

    Giles
    20 May, 2013 – 7:52 pm

    “Details of Tony and Hilary’s inheritance tax avoidance schemes are available online. DYOR!”

    There are no details online to back your claims.

    In other words you are a liar.

    If I am wrong you can simply provide links and references that can prove you right and me wrong.

    But, of course, you can’t.

    We are used to liars on this blog.

  • doug scorgie

    Giles, what do you have to say about the latest news of tax dodging schemes that David Cameron, Boris Johnson and your Friend Nigel Farage have just been implicated in?

  • technicolour

    Giles: among the frothing you neglected to address these two points – a party: “in coalition with murderous extremists, and which has been rejected by its own founder for its far-right bigotry, extremism and scare-mongering?”

    You’d perhaps condone “we have too many Muslims in this country”? No-one suggests you should be jailed for thinking so, but honestly, how do you rationalise this?

    Back to the smorgasbord –

  • guano

    Farage is a Frankenstein creation who can simultaneously raise the hackles of Liberals by being exclusivist and simultaneously puff out the Tories by running ahead of them in the electoral race against immigration. Not even Obama mentioning the place of the UK in international politics falling if the UK fails to secure the expansion of Europe through opening its borders, can bring the fuming Liberals and foaming Tories to their senses. Pah!

    3 cheers for Craig winding his way slowly back to Kent on a train. These jet-addicted Tories seem to have forgotten that we live in a physical globe with neighbours. Farage knows that our Scottish neighbours love it when their neighbours get involved in a few high-spirited fisticuffs. How to make friends for ever:- engage in a wee war of words instead of swooping past to Balmoral in a Bentley.

    The Tory top brass are currently engaged in war games from one male buttock to the other. Ye never know wha coud be lurkin in the glen.

  • Giles

    Doug, it ought to be clear by now that I don’t oppose legal tax avoidance. What I object to is the hypocrisy of those who demand

    Oh fuck this I really can’t be bothered anymore.

  • Giles

    Technidrek, the Founder might have felt scorned. I don’t know why. If things didn’t turn out the way he wanted, he might say the most damaging things possible, but I don’t know the details.

    I wouldn’t single out Muslims unfairly, hence the ‘perhaps’, but I agree with the general gist of what she said. Large parts of England are losing their English character. Were this another country you would agree, but you hate England and England won’t feel right for you until it no longer feels like England at all.

  • fedup

    …… honestly, how do you rationalise this?

    That is a very easy question, indeed.

    Based on tribal imperatives, and given the continual siege mentality, coupled with a deep persecution complex, the simplicity of hating all Muslims is a an inevitable consequence.

    Therefore concluding; these hated Muslims ought to be cleansed from everywhere in an attempt to minimise/impede/stop/end any probable cross pollination of the ideas/thoughts/notions, other than the officially sanctioned narrative as per the orders from zionistan.

    These ziofuckwits are akin to automatons, they need very little programming to fall in line, and get on with running the production line of; hate, bigotry, mass murder, lies, land theft, whilst playing the injured partyto boot.

    Hence difficult as it may appear to you; the simplicity of hatred towards the enemy is the rationale that is driving the hoards of these ziofuckwits, often interloping as concerned citizenry of the host society/board/nation and pushing the hot buttons to initiate the spread of hatred and intolerance towards the said Muslims/enemies.

  • Roderick Russell

    Giles @ 20 May, 2013 – 7:37 Unlike yourself I have never watched Press TV in my life, and had to Google on it to see what it was. I think you make a mistake paying too much attention to what the Ayatollahs have to say.
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    However on the comment “Who are the “behind the scenes” power elites? Well, in my view they include the Monarchy and those around it (courtiers, high aristocracy, etc.)” let me just add a few words. If you think that Monarchy does not exercise considerable behind the scenes power, consider this:
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    P. Charles has apparently negotiated royal funding that is independent of Parliament for the first time in 200 years; he is known to have commented to various Ministers on political matters that we are not allowed to know about; and he has even been known to approach officials directly. And then there is the relationship with the intelligence services. Former MI6 officer, Richard Tomlinson said: “I learnt while in MI6 that there was unofficial direct contact between certain senior … MI6 officers and senior members of the Royal Household” Many knowledgeable people have commented on the closeness of the intelligence services to the Royals; particularly as they seldom have such a closeness with the elected parliament or the government of the day. Indeed allegations have recently surfaced that the Queen’s Private Secretary may have been an MI6 officer.
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    Whether one likes it or not it is very clear that the Royals are far more than figureheads, and can wield great power behind the scenes whenever they choose to do so.

  • technicolour

    But Giles, the woman in question did single out Muslims, no doubt about it, so I presume you, by your own logic, should ‘condemn’ her statement. If it makes it easier for you she did so despite the fact that the Muslim population of Cambridge is approx 3.25 percent. (4000 out of 123000 people). That means out of 100 people, around 3 are Muslim. In what sense is this ‘too many’?

    As to ‘England’ – what do you mean, I hate England? The topography? The culture? The people? I am very fond of all of them. Is that so hard to understand?

    ‘Large parts of England are losing their English character’ – as you seemed to rather ignore, in the previous thread, some ghettos have been deliberately built by bureaucrats, which is awful for all concerned, but this is changing: life is shaking and moving on happily. Other ‘white’ enclaves, on the south coast, are either the prerogative of millionaires, or left to rot in sad isolation and would only benefit from an influx of new people and ideas.

    Where’s the influence of corporate/US culture on your ideas, I wonder?

  • Mark Golding - Children of Conflict

    Britain’s Watchkeeper UAV program, is a joint project between Israel’s Elbit Systems and the French defense multinational Thales. Watchkeeper drones are based on Elbit’s Hermes 450 aircraft. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchkeeper_WK450

    A contact in Azerbaijan confirmed Israeli expertise (close to 30 years experience) was used to fly drones into the World Trade Center buildings 1WTC and 2WTC.

    Radar information confirms classic Operation Northwoods class aircraft exchanges were executed on the morning of September 11th 2001. Details of this switch transaction have been explained to me by an experienced Royal Air Force war planner.

    Others have provided proof (thank-you) in a film called ‘Intercepted’ which is well worth a viewing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=f6WSDxErgBE#!

    Richard Chaney (72 yrs) is described as the most powerful vice president in American history ( http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99422633 ) Cheney or ‘Dick’ had a crucial role to play when America was attacked. From an underground operations bunker protected by secret service personnel who also kept attendance activity logs, Dick Cheney helped execute the ‘Intercept’ or lack of by ensuring certain military orders were themselves intercepted. A simple job considering the communications and display equipment at his disposal.

    Richard Cheney may well be guilty of treason, war crimes and murder including the heinous loss of over 300 American firefighters.

    I urge the American public to prosecute him.

  • Kempe

    “A contact in Azerbaijan confirmed Israeli expertise (close to 30 years experience) was used to fly drones into the World Trade Center buildings 1WTC and 2WTC.”

    Yes I’m sure he did and is he on first name terms with the Tooth Fairy?

    I thought the latest conspiracy theory was that there were no planes; it was all done with CGI. holograms and actors.

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