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by craig on July 7, 2013 5:52 am in Uncategorized

This blog is temporarily suspended pending urgent repairs to the author.

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  1. May Allah allow those repairs to be a success.

  2. Good luck, Craig. Our thoughts and best wishes are with you.

  3. “May Allah allow those repairs to be a success.”

    But what happens to me if I don’t believe in Allah? Wait, dont tell me….

    Praying to the NHS, our “national religion”, would be far more constructive.

  4. Wishing you a speedy and complete recovery, all the best.

  5. Flaming June

    7 Jul, 2013 - 8:06 am

    Hope all goes well. Have a good rest afterwards too.

  6. I hope you make a complete and speedy recovery. I am sure everyone will miss your posts, but please take all the time you need.

  7. Get well, and try to learn to take it easy for a bit.

  8. barbara brown

    7 Jul, 2013 - 8:36 am

    Take good care of yourself–lots of fine weather waiting for you when you are up and about again. x

  9. All the best, Craig. I hope everything goes smoothly for you. And take plenty of recovery time!

  10. All the best for a speedy recovery.

  11. Best wishes Craig. Everybody on this blog, I’m sure, wishes you successful ‘repairs’ and that your time in the ‘garage’ will not be too long.

  12. Alex Taylor

    7 Jul, 2013 - 9:30 am

    My best wishes to you for a speedy repair Craig.

  13. Get well repaired soon Craig, and make sure you get the warranty for the repairs!

    Best wished, and wish you luck, and health.

  14. All the best — good time of year to heal!
    Time to reflect:
    We began this series of talks by asking why human beings living on this earth, such a beautiful earth, except on a rainy day like this, why we cannot live at peace with each other, why must we have wars, the economic, social, racial differences, and why we cannot live with each other – intimately or otherwise, with tranquillity, a certain quality of serenity? And apparently that is not possible, because the vast majority of people throughout the world are very violent. They don’t want peace – neither do the governments. They talk a great deal about it, but they are all preparing for everlasting war. And religions too have not given man peace. The tribal divisions, local gods and saviours, the religious hierarchy, all that has prevented – or we have created all this and therefore there is no peace on earth. Pacem in terris.

    And we have been talking over together, if we can in our daily life, end conflict within ourselves, be free from any shadow of fear, end suffering, move away entirely from the self-centred activity which is one of the, perhaps, or the major causes of conflict – not only outwardly but also inwardly. And very, very few seem to be serious enough to go into this deeply and perhaps realise that there is a totally different way of living. And this morning, if we will, together, go into this question, not only of peace, but as we said, what is the origin, the beginning, of all existence? Why man has become what he is. Why we are, after millennia upon millennia, very, very primitive psychologically, barbarous. And technologically we are advanced tremendously, and that very technology is going perhaps to destroy us too. And we ought to go together this morning and enquire seriously: is it man’s lot inevitably that he lives this way? Or has something gone wrong with the whole human evolution? Or is there something outside, beyond human measure, that if one can understand, go into it deeply, may perhaps open the door, open our eyes, and perhaps our hearts too, so that we may naturally, easily, live a happy, serene life? That is what we are going to enquire together this morning.
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  15. Villager, that’s so beautiful. Here’s the Mahavishnu Orchestra.

  16. Please get well soon Craig. In the last resort we can always wire up your brain floating in a large glass vessel to the ethernet.

  17. Best wishes.

  18. May you recover quickly Craig.

  19. The whole of Australia wishes you a speedy recovery!

  20. “The whole of Australia wishes you a speedy recovery!” Martin.

    Including Ayres Rock, the Western Desert, downtown Melbourne and the Barrier Reef? Must be those cosmic good ‘Mahavishnu-Villager’ vibes! :)

  21. Good luck, Craig.

  22. You were warned not to take any dodgy tea or stand next to anyone with a pointy umbrella. Criticizing Gulnara can be disastrous for one’s health.

  23. Best wishes Craig and much love to your family.

  24. Don’t understand what this means as one can still post here when it is most needed as the NSA will be pulling out all the stops domestic and foreign to get Snowden no matter what it takes, as the article in today’s NYT indicates.

    The Obama administration has all the special needs it could want from its covert government to just dispose of him as if he were another Osama bin Ladin.

  25. All good wishes Craig – may you be up and at ‘em again soon.

  26. Trowbridge, I think it just means that Craig will be out of action for a little time. We can still post here. I’m sure the Mods will deploy their usual Upanishad touch. Sorry, I’m in a George Harrison mood this morning.

  27. Very best wishes for successful treatment and quick recovery, Craig. But I echo what others have said – make sure you give yourself plenty of rest in the aftermath, it’s really important. You will get back to full-time action more quickly if at first you do nothing for longer than you would like. Or something. Voice of experience.

  28. Yep, the commenting and discussing switch is still set to “enabled”, as far as I know! And thankfully I’ve left my umbrella (non-pointy version) on a bus. Weather’s too nice for it anyway, I’m off on the bike!

    Get well soon Craig, good health.

  29. Get well soon Craig. I don;t always agree with your conclusions but you’re a man of great integrity and knowledge, and therefore always worth attending to.

  30. He dropped some great big spanners in the works and sauntered off on break.

  31. I’m assuming this is a clockworks repair and not some fix for a dicky foot.

    I’m also going to assume (and hope) that Craig will retain his vocal capabilities to dictate occasional rages against the machine for subsequent electronic transcription to this blog.

    Good luck, Craig. If you see a light, stay away from it, or ask someone to turn it off.

  32. Okay, so was Flight 214 sabotaged to take away attention from the Snowden debacle, and only failed to achieve its goal because of the special training and efforts by the crew?

    After all, according to Washington, Asians are always expendable when it comes to its goals.

  33. “Okay, so was Flight 214 sabotaged to take away attention from the Snowden debacle, and only failed to achieve its goal because of the special training and efforts by the crew?”

    No. Any further stupid questions, Tro?

  34. Good luck Craig. I hope you recover soon.

  35. All the best, Craig.

  36. Certainly reminds me when I took an AirChina flight from Beijing to JFK on a revamped 747 at the end of February, and the pilot somehow managed to make the runaway under very bad conditions. The plane just seemed to float around Jamaica Bay without any power, and all we Asians (except me) remained deadly silent while it was occurring.

    Noticed all the special preparation that officialdom had engaged in before takeoff, especially having a most senior, Western pilot taking command of a crew who had never met him before, and having yet another security check of all the passenger after going through the gate to make sure that no one, especially me, was not carrying some kind of explosive device in their hand luggage.

    To dismiss out of hand any explanation of what Washington’s thugs are up to these days is apparently just helping them along!

  37. Get well soon, Craig – you’re badly needed, and much appreciated.

  38. In the AirChina case, Washington hoped that it would make a serious miscalculation, leading to disaster, or an embarrassing climbdown by the Chinese carrier.

    Washington seems to have gotten HAARP going over Alaska, heating up the ionosphere that the plane had to go through, reducing airspeed by about 70 knots an hour, and making JFK the absolute limit of its range.

    Of course, the pilot could have diverted to some other airport but it would not be good publicity for the purchase of more such planes, what Washington does not want it to have because of the impact that AirChina would then have on international passenger travel.

    Then China’s Ministry of State Security thought that I might have some special message for it, and made attempts to meet me. A Thai woman made a special effort to sit next to me when I made the flight from Bangkok to Beijing, and then she was monitoring my actions by cellphone facilities set up in the airport during my long wait for the flight to JFK.

    The more usual event was yet the security check just before getting on the plane during which the head of the detail gave me a welcoming wave of the hand, apparently expecting me to come over and say something to him.

    I didn’t because I just strongly suspected that the USA was just going to pull another dirty trick on China, like the Pentagon-made earthquake in May 2008, but I didn’t have a clue of what it might be.

    It seems that it was a very good decision on my part as the crew must have worked its butts off, getting the 747 to JFK.

    The MoSS even had one of its couples sit next to me during the flight, hoping to provoke me to make some outburst or admission.

    When I was only most polite and helpful, they became more and more friendly.

    During the ordeal of making that landing, they wanted me to keep quiet about what was happening, and when the plane finally landed, we shook hands rather than engaged in high-fives.

    This time, it seems that Washington left nothing to Korean miscalculations.

  39. (Not the anon with shades at 2:31)
    But on the same subject

    Type Qualified Pilots on various forums already have a fair idea what happened. It involves pilot error and also potentially a sequence of events of input to flight computers which would have allowed the engines to idle down too far during landing. The crew, who may not have done a VFR approach for a very long time and didn’t seem to be doing a good job of it from the start, noticed their mistake too late.

    The airline has already said tellingly, there was no problem with the aircraft as far they are concerned.

    But we will probably know for sure soon enough. The fact that the plane continued to transmit real-time aircraft flight data as it crashed (and these were picked up by the web-based flight-trackers) means a lot of info is already in the public domain about this crash.

    But more Importantly, Craig – Get Well Soon

  40. Get well soon, Craig (my first post after three years of ‘lurking’).

  41. Same as Hassan I am a compulsory lurker on this blog ,my sentiments are the same get well soon ,

  42. All the best Craig.

    Hope to see you back – fighting fit and in customary shit-detector mood – as soon as you’re on your feet again.

  43. Tom Kennedy

    7 Jul, 2013 - 5:44 pm

    Best wishes for a speedy return to good health, Craig.

  44. Slàinte mhòr agad, Craig.

  45. Very best wishes for a speedy recovery. I hope you enjoyed the tennis.

  46. best wishes for a full repair job with long warranty.

  47. I see the odious fat slug Salmond and crony didn’t miss the opportunity for a staged unfurling of the Scottish flag in front of the cameras after Murray’s win. The pre-planned and hurried unfurling by the grinning slug was more akin to a schoolboy prank than the behaviour of a statesman.

  48. Arabest Craig, at least you have an amazing victory for Clan Murray today to cheer you up! :-)

  49. Craig, get well soon, the world needs you.

  50. You’ll be sorely missed Craig.

    Here’s best wishes to every cell involved. May they get to work on whatever healing and mending is required.

    And may you return to us once rested, full of life and bursting with fresh insights for us to argue about.

  51. Good luck

  52. “I’m off on the bike!” Jon.

    The white bike?

  53. @ The CE

    “After 77 years, Murray and England rule”

  54. technicolour

    7 Jul, 2013 - 8:39 pm

    well, all of the above x

  55. Hoping the repair job goes well, Craig! :-)

  56. Gute Besserung junger Mann. Best wishes from us all here in Rokelunda, hope you back on track soon.

  57. Leave off the cheese !

  58. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)

    7 Jul, 2013 - 10:03 pm

    And say no to any over-liberal application of the butter as well!

    Good luck and a speedy recovery.

  59. Really enjoyed Murder in Samarkand on Kindle.

    Be well soon Craig.

  60. Sorry to hear repairs are required, Craig. Can I add my voice to the chorus of Get Well Soons?

  61. Best Wishes for a full recovery Craig.

  62. Best wishes for Craig’s speedy recovery. I was following with interest his [mis] adventures with NHS and the healthcare industry. Found the whole delays inexcusable.

    Come back soon, Craig – the world still needs you!

    And don’t forget to make a brain copy…in less than 30-40 years we’ll probably be able to download…..

  63. BrianFujisan

    7 Jul, 2013 - 11:40 pm

    Get well soon Craig, and please take plenty of rest time, all the best

  64. Best of luck with the repairs, Craig!

  65. Get well soon… trust it wasn’t the strain of watching Andy this afternoon. Great result, but stressful till we got there….

  66. Best wishes Craig. Please post soon so we know how you’re getting on.

  67. And Craig, look after yourself well; you have to be better in time for the festival:

  68. Good luck, Craig – I hope this sorts things out.

    Clark – good to see you mate. I’ve been away for a bit myself, too… it’s been very far from an ideal year.

  69. My very best wishes to you and your family Craig.

    Be strong fella :.)

  70. Clark,

    Good to hear from ya,hope all is well..:.)

  71. Lili Putain

    8 Jul, 2013 - 3:43 am

    For happy thoughts to think while anesthesia comes on, or Laphroiag, or whatever: Who will be the next state to join the fight against US government crimes of aggression? Maybe an early victim of US crimes against privacy. Night night.

  72. Best wishes, Craig, from California USA. Sending you get well pixels.

  73. best wishes from another aussie, craig. hope u r back soon.

  74. straw44berry

    8 Jul, 2013 - 6:22 am

    Get well soon Craig

  75. Some good sites to visit in the meantime, just be aware of sayanese twins hifiving with their usual chicanery.

  76. Get well soon!

  77. willyrobinson

    8 Jul, 2013 - 8:56 am

    Get well soon, best wishes – w

  78. Get well soon Craig. Come back when your fit and ready for work.

    Good luck.
    Remember- family first!

    Your strengths and our weaknesses.

  79. Hypocrisy looms large this morning on Radio 4 today. Gushing over the Scotsman’s win, clearly misoginist in their adoration, when giving Ms. Bartoli no such platform.

    Queue some moments later, women debating the CoE synods plans to accept women bishops. They had to listen to schmalz about how fair and equal everything is.

    This is my letter to the today program. Still have had no answer to my emails to Clark, anybody heard?

    to whom it may concern

    Just to say that Britain is looking forward to hearing from Ms. Bartoli
    and her great win against Ms. Liesiki. Since you have been gushing about
    Scotsman Andy Murray, and saw fit to show us PM Mr. Cameron, twice in
    the last ten minutes of the game, just to give the newbie his hand up
    at the polls, how about putting you money were your mouth was and give
    some time to Ms. Bartoli?

    Then ten minutes later you began lecturing two women on equality, with
    great moral rectitude on the deliberations of the synod and how its up
    to them to decide whether women become bishops.

    fact is you are a clammed up, misogynist and unequal BBC, one that
    gushes about sporting men who consistently fails to give women the
    credit they deserve, much akin to the CoE Synod of sexually challenged
    old farts who are trying to stem the tide on women bishops.

    keep up the bias, you would not want to change old habits now, would you.


    PS: The British public is well aware of the appalling state of BBC HR,
    not just with the secretive Jimmy Saville cover up, but also with
    regards to Russell Joslin, his mental coaching and the sexual predation
    he experienced under BBC auspice, who was told about it many times and
    which could be accused of dereliction of duty. It is to be seen whether
    you have spent too much money on golden handshakes, or whether you have
    something left for the family of this poor man who was driven to suicide
    by your wretched organisation.

  80. Craig

    It can’t be too soon to have you back causing consternation to the enemies of justice and peace. But take the time you need (like Andy missing the French Open) to get back to full fighting fitness.

  81. Best wishes for a speedy recovery!

  82. A moments thought for the innocent, blameless living souls interned at Guantánamo Bay stockade.


  83. Orra best, Craig.

  84. Thanks Mark Golding. I watched that video. What has been and is being done due to actions of Jack Straw and others in my government makes me ashamed. Out of 779 people who have passed through Guantanamo Bay or are still there (that is 166) only 13 have ever been charged with a crime, and I know of only one who has been convicted. 9 men have died there and 15 children have been held there. They were wrongly imprisoned on information obtained by US spying technology. It is one of the reasons that I raised the epetition of which somebody has already experienced difficulties signing because of a warning message not to open the file

    If anybody else experiences difficulty can they please let me know. Thanks.

  85. Now the NTSB says that nothing can be ruled out in the SF airliner crash, especially the failure of the airplane’s equipment or that of the airport.

    This is after the FBI’s resident in charge had immediately said that it was not a terrorist act, and we were getting all kinds of false claims from anonymous sources, and ignorant, self-proclaimed experts.

    Hope you get well, Craig, before this mess is adequately explained.

  86. Petition signed without difficulty for me.
    Keep fighting the good fight, John.

  87. I wish you a speedy recovery, Craig. I read each of your posts as they put a refreshing perspective on the usual media that we get fed. It is apalling what goes on in our name and without us knowing.

  88. Trowbridge – 12:59 pm

    I posted some more info about that crash on the previous thread. Plus a video of the impact – although taken from some distance away.

  89. Thank you A Node. Only one has mentioned a problem. So it could be her settings.

  90. I wish you a rapid recovery.

  91. @ Chris / Fred

    Skip to ‘Enviro’mentalist’.

    “Norfolks maddest man.“

  92. Удачи! Выздоравливай поскорее, Craig.

  93. Flaming June

    8 Jul, 2013 - 2:48 pm

    Nevermind writes of the BBC’s sexism.

    Marion Bartoli also had to withstand sexist remarks about her looks from John Inverdale. He has now apologized. Her IQ of 175 has been referred to briefly.

    In all their Murray mania, the media hardly mention Virginia Wade winning the women’s championship in 1977.

  94. All the best Craig and family, and hope you will be well enough soon to be back with more vigour and vitality to kick the Illegitimi/Bastards around like never before.

  95. glenn_uk, nevermind and Jives, hello. I’m sorta stuck near Lampeter in Wales; I maintain operating systems for a couple of friends here. I came here after the solstice party at Stonehenge (it’s sad, police and private security are seemingly paid to refuse to have fun), thinking I’d visit for a couple of days, but first I got sick, and then I encountered problems when I tried to install the latest versions of Ubuntu and Debian on my friends’ PCs. Then today one friend’s hot water system sprung a leak, so now I’m doing emergency plumbing. I’d like to meet up with some of the Welsh contributors, but I’m working as fast as I can (which is partly why I haven’t checked my e-mail for over a week), and the people who are looking after my cat might not approve.

  96. Trowbridge,

    Highly possible scenario from professional pilots forums.

    Relatively inexperienced pilot on type is handling the landing (not Captain apparently). Came in slightly too high at first, selected FLCH (Flight Level Change) and corrected. Forget to un-select Flight Level Change after correction which left auto-thrust inhibited with result engines idled too low and plane slowed well below 137 knots where it should have been. Pilots did not initially notice speed dropping off (This seems totally inexcusable to most pilots given the conditions). Spotted at 7 seconds before impact and call made to increase power. No additional power initially applied. At 4 secs from impact stall warning shaker goes off. In the final seconds throttles are finally opened and engines begin to respond normally. At 1.5 secs call to go around as engines continue to spool up. Too late. Boom.

    That seems to be the majority opinion of those qualified on type (and who are willing to speculate) is after they watched the NTSB briefing.

    Confusion over the auto-thrust inhibition because they were mistakenly still in Flight Level Change Mode could have added to the confusion between a problem being recognised and corrective action taken.

  97. Would anyone like a cat? I said that she could stay with me after her keeper died as no other home was available. She’s slight, black, quite talkative (almost conversational), neutered, immunised, about twelve years old, and catches mice. She’s never bitten or scratched me.

    I shouldn’t leave people’s computer systems not working properly, but I can’t really fix software while there’s water dripping through the ceiling.

  98. Oh one final thing, Although ground-based auto-land systems were not available, the particular aircraft and runway were both certified for GPS only auto-land. (Don’t try this with your phone’s GPS as altitude is usually not accurate enough for several reasons!).

    GPS alone auto-land certification is relatively new I believe but that option was available to the crew as far as I can gather. Whether they didn’t trust it, couldn’t use it for some other reason or just intentionally came in for a manual landing as the preferred option will presumably be explained later.

    But it seems the plane was perfectly capable of landing itself despite all the ground systems down for upgrades.

  99. Western intervention in Egypt.

    Reports suggest Western/Saudi backed Qatari terrorists in support of the Muslim Brotherhood attempted an operation to subvert the peaceful demonstrations of ordinary Egyptians. The escalation of violence was achieved by firing on the Republican Guard in Cairo who retaliated by returning fire killing supporters of Mohammed Morsi.

    In response to this the Muslim Brotherhood called for an uprising(Divide and Rule? – Syria?).

  100. Hi Clark, somebody locally here has mentioned that they would like her as their cat was killed on the road.
    Their kids are missing the cat and would like another one.

    You can then carry on with you summer pursuits.

  101. Alexandria, Egypt.

    Salafi fighters murder one young teenage Eqyptian boy and seriously injure his other mates by throwing them from a water tower where the kids had sought refuge:

    Apologies for poor quality video.

  102. Nevermind, thanks, that’s the best news I’ve had in ages.

  103. Just more ignorant crap from pilot blogs.

    Pilot at the controls has been fling for nearly 20 years, having flown over 10,000 hours.

    Has flown the 777 43 times, and has landed many times at SF in other planes.

    What better time for him to make what should ave been a routine one at SF, given the very good weather conditions?

    Increasingly think that the plane’s ability to land safely was sabotaged, especially its instruments about air speed and altitude, and to control its movements, especially its descent.

    When the pilot realized his desperate situation, he switched to full power, and deliberately crashed, realizing that it was the only way he could save any passengers.

    Since he saved probably all but one. i give him tentatively excellent marks for his performance.

    And who are you anyway?

  104. Mark Harper

    8 Jul, 2013 - 8:05 pm

    All the best, don’t go tits up!

  105. Trowbridge,

    The displays could all have switched to Martian and the pilots should still have been able to land safely by looking out the bloody windows. It was a VFR approach after all.

    Visual flight rules (VFR) are a set of regulations under which a pilot operates an aircraft in weather conditions generally clear enough to allow the pilot to see where the aircraft is going. Specifically, the weather must be better than basic VFR weather minima, i.e. in visual meteorological conditions (VMC), as specified in the rules of the relevant aviation authority. The pilot must be able to operate the aircraft with visual reference to the ground, and by visually avoiding obstructions and other aircraft.[1]

    They failed miserably to do that. Unlike the flight crew of United 882 which was able to see the approaching plane well below the glide-slope and radio a “heads-up” warning to ATC and hold their own taxi for take-off even before the crew of Asiana 214 noticed anything wrong.

    Instruments or not they are supposed to look where they are going on a VFR approach and that they disastrously failed to do. Even some passengers on the plane knew they were too low before the pilots did.

    And there has been absolutely no suggestion from either the NTSB or airline that any fault has been reported by the pilots or uncovered in the investigation so far. Both the CVR and FDR have been recovered and apparently show no indication whatsoever that the pilots noticed anything wrong until 7 seconds before impact.

    Sometimes very bad mistakes happen. Not everything is a conspiracy. And this looks like an accident to me. So far anyway.

  106. Get well soon Craig.I’m looking forward to reading your book.

  107. @Clarke. 4 41pm
    @Nevermind. 5 59pm

    WOW! 1hr 18mins!

    You’re doing a great job Craig, even when you are (likely) doped to the gills on a hospital bed.

    From CNN:

    “Wrong on so many levels.” Take a look at how the MSM distort the Craig Murray Cat Adoption Service’s ground-breaking delivery system. Don’t feel obliged to watch the whole 2min 33secs.

    Don’t worry Craig. I, for one, am not taken in. I know the parachutes are faked. After all it’s much quicker and more ground-breaking without.

    I hope you are comfortable and well into recovery mode and being spoiled rotten by a squadron of unspeakably gorgeous nurses.

  108. NTSB have now said that more detailed analysis shows thrust was first commanded about 7 seconds before impact and engines had reached 50% power 3 secs before impact. Auto-thrust was not engaged. They were below Vref and dropping for over 30 seconds before they noticed and by then they were skimming the waves.

  109. Even some passengers on the plane knew they were too low before the pilots did.

    Well that is a new one, how can anyone accurately determine how low, how high are they in a jetliner?

    So far as the VFR rules go, the cloud cover and the complications thereof are not outlined.

    Both the CVR and FDR have been recovered and apparently show no indication whatsoever that the pilots noticed anything wrong until 7 seconds before impact.

    Does this not perhaps point to a major shortcoming in the systems design of the aircraft?

  110. Kibo, reminds be of Bertrand Russell complaining of having double-pneumonia but only one nurse.

  111. Egypt’s coup-that-is-not-a-coup is just the latest in a long line of covert coups.

    Who’s fooled?

    Axiomatic? – plain as day?

    In the face of British/American intransigence and apathy we might want to prepare for economic collapse and war.

    Else make a brew perchance?

  112. get well soon you fluckin legend

  113. “Even some passengers on the plane knew they were too low before the pilots did.”

    Many who have landed on those two runways at SFO during a clear day have experienced that — it feels like you are going to land in the water but then at the last second the runway appears and you are safely down.

  114. Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    9 Jul, 2013 - 1:28 am

    “In the face of British/American intransigence and apathy we might want to prepare for economic collapse and war.”

    Mark; Doesn’t the power of intention make the case for a great fever resulting in a breakthrough?

    We may be on the precipice of a quantum leap, but we need the help of many to transcend.

  115. Fedup,

    Assuming there was no tampering the plane would be telling the crew in all sorts of ways that something was wrong. Most importantly airspeed which they should be watching at all times. But if this incident means some additional warning that could prevent this then of course I’m for it. What aids the plane did have that were not used or disabled we will find out in due course.

    Possibly of note the previous day’s flight 214 went around and came in on the second go.


    “NTSB Chairman Hersman briefs the media on Aisana flight 214 crash”

  117. Obomber promises not to intercept Snowden commercial flight and then arranges for an unprecedented hijack of Morales’ Presidential jet?!! WTF and not even a whimper in protest or mention in the MSM?!!

  118. Belatedly, get well soon. May the pea in your whistle never fall out.

  119. We may be on the precipice of a quantum leap, but we need the help of many to transcend.

    Check out quantum tunnelling, Ben.

  120. @Komodo. 9 23am


    I’m clearly as thick as a planck when it comes to this stuff.

    Can you give a synopsis in short words?


    Now I’ll cool my head on a bath of cold water.

  121. Ever heard of Anglia Square? No? Well its been chosen to replace Leicester Square for the premiere of Alan Partridges new film ‘Alpha papa’.

    What better place than a shopping centre were the 99pence stores are competing with each other, not a single major supermarket in sight, well there is Roys of Wroxham, but…..

    So, come 7th. August, the world premiere will shine its light on Norwich’s underbelly. Who’s comin’?…..

  122. Trying to break brains, ‘Komodo’? Always wondered why they are so hell bent to find out about Neutrino’s, a unique wave particle that travels through matter, but does it do time and space? Hmmm….

  123. ILS (as it used to be called) was out, the pilot had only 43 hours on that aircraft, and had probably spent most of that time on auto. He’d never landed a 777 before.

    Asiana spokeswoman Lee Hyomin told the Associated Press that pilot Lee Gang-guk was trying to get used to the 777 during Saturday’s crash landing. She said the pilot had nearly 10,000 hours flying other planes, including the Boeing 747, but had only 43 hours on the 777.

    Hyomin told Reuters that co-pilot Lee Jeong-min has 3,220 hours of flying experience with the Boeing 777 and a total of 12,387 hours of flying experience, and was helping his colleague with the landing.

    In all, four pilots were on the plane and worked in rotating shifts during the 10-and-a-half hour flight from Seoul. The pilots were described by Asiana chief executive Yoon Young-doo as veterans, with more than 10,000 hours of flight experience.

    Hersman said the NTSB will look into whether or not Gang-guk’s 43 hours spent flying Boeing 777’s had a role in the crash landing.


  124. Can you give a synopsis in short words?

    There is a tiny chance – so small as to be only just not nonexistent- that you can heave a brick through a plate glass window without breaking the window. For very small particles and very thin barriers, this becomes a lot more possible. You might say it exploits the wave-particle duality – a particle such as an electron can sneak through an energy barrier by using its magic wave powers.

    Well, I tried…

  125. …but actually, I was expressing my deep resentment of the use of “quantum leap” as a synonym for “leap”. Outside physics, “quantum leap” has no meaning whatever, and not much meaning inside physics, either. Pretty well everything is quantum there.

  126. Hope you’ve recovered soon Craig

  127. Flaming June

    9 Jul, 2013 - 10:24 am

    Norfolk is a happening place Nevermind.

    Some poor guy mowing the Queen’s grass at Sandringham on a ride on ends up in the drink and is now in a critical condition.

    There is a new director of Norfolk’s ‘troubled’ children’s services.
    Q Why did Leicester City Council make her redundant?


    The High Court has upheld Grieve’s decision that P Charles’ correspondence with ministers should remain private. No surprise there.

  128. Craig’s blog: All human life is there.
    Especially if it has to do with royalty or even their lawnmowers. ;)

  129. “Cockup”

    Yes, I’ve read a lot and listened to a lot, and seen a lot of video clips, and it looks like pilot cock-up. I don’t see why not, anyway. Pilots are not infallible, anymore than bus drivers or taxi drivers. And occasionally they don’t get their required amount of sleep. And occasionally they’re drinking when they shouldn’t be. Just like the rest of humanity.

  130. @Komodo. 10 02am

    Thanks for your brave try.

    Now I understand. It’s a bit deep, like Abe’s “Kissinger Principle”.

    From what I remember it goes something like this:

    There is a tiny chance – so small as to be only just not nonexistent- that you can impose military repression and economic plunder on a nation and end up (according to the Wall St Journal at any rate) with both democracy and an economic miracle. For very small and comfortable minds such an outcome becomes a lot more likely. You might say it exploits the wave-particle duality – a delusion such as the Chicago Boys can sneak through the logic barrier by using their magic wave powers.

    And there was I, on the Counter Revolution thread, trying to argue that Kissinger is a war criminal who should on trial before the ICC.

  131. Ben,

    The ‘reveal’ is still unfolding yet the ‘hook’ will connect us; we appreciate that here.

    It appears we are directed by four – the four horsemen.

    The first is reverence for all of life. This manifests as unconditional love and respect for oneself and all other beings.

    The second is natural sincerity. This manifests as honesty, simplicity and faithfulness.

    The third is gentleness, which manifests as kindness, consideration for others and sensitivity to spiritual truth.

    The fourth is supportiveness. This manifests as service to others without expectation of reward.”

    Not all can therefore connect. Those that cannot will become extinct. Union and harmony are precious.

  132. See Stupid White Men by Michael Moore regarding poor pay and conditions of pilots, though that’s about pilots in the US in 2001.

  133. !
    LOL @ Kibo Noh. Ingenious extension of wave mechanics, there.

    But Heisenberg states that if you know where a tiny mind is, you don’t know how fast it’s moving and vice versa, which is plainly inapplicable, because tiny minds don’t move at all, and you usually find them huddled round a comforting assumption.

  134. Hoping that the “urgent repairs to the author” are 100% successful, and that you are soon fighting the good fight again, but only when you are good & ready; don’t worry about the Blog, the regulars under the care of Jon the Mod, will keep the flame burning bright; as for myself, I going for a rest & a recharge under the Med Sun for the next three weeks, and will duly return with more fuel for the flame !

  135. “I was expressing my deep resentment of the use of “quantum leap” as a synonym for “leap”.”

    It might be legit if they are describing a discontinuous change of state. Usually they’re not, of course. The one that annoys me is ‘sea change’ as a synonym for ‘change’. Oh, and ‘up next’ for ‘next’.

  136. No, Vronsky, I cannot as a responsible pedant let that past. “A quantum leap in technology” for instance implies that technology as a whole is quantised. At the scale of discussion, just as for a real as opposed to conceptual object, quantisation is not appropriate or meaningful; we must treat the world of large masses and forces, parsimoniously, as Newtonian. A discontinuous change of state on the macro scale is usually gigantic compared to any quantisable component thereof.

    See also “tectonic shift” for “slight change of attitude”

    I see that “at this moment in time” has mercifully yielded to “going forward” in the lexicon of bollocks, though.

  137. Referee beheaded by fans for killing player

    There were absolutely horrific scenes at an amateur football match in ….. when spectators lynched a referee and put his head on a stake after he had killed a player.

    Why the Muslim haters never jumped on this bit of “good news”?

  138. Most British football fans want to live peacefully and enjoy the benefits of Western culture. They undoubtedly utterly deplore the notion that the kind of carnage that occurred in Brazil should take place in Britain.


    And let’s not forget that, worldwide, most victims of footballists are themselves football fans whom the extremists judge to be polluted by Western ideas.

    Nevertheless, this fundamentalist interpretation of the FA Rule Book is what is being spouted by hate preachers in Britain and on the internet, and is steadily radicalising thousands of young British football fans.

    Now the Prime Minister says he will crack down on such extremism. Yet after the Brazilian atrocity, he claimed it was ‘a betrayal of football’ and that ‘there is nothing in football that justifies this truly dreadful act’.

    The London Mayor Boris Johnson went even further, claiming: ‘It is completely wrong to blame this killing on the religion of football’ and that the cause was simply the killers’ ‘warped and deluded mindset’.

    Yet the video footage of the killers — who had shouted ‘Maranhao’ when butchering Abreu — records one of them citing his mate in the pub exhorting the Maranhao Casuals to fight and kill opposing supporters, and declaring: ‘We swear by God and the Virgin Mary we will never stop fighting you.’

    Frankly, these comments by the Prime Minister and London Mayor were as absurd as saying the burning of witches, for example, had nothing to do with the Protestant Church, but was just the product of a few warped and deluded individuals.

    No apologies to Mad Mel….

  139. Komodo that was an excellent synthesis.

    Mad Mel will be hopping mad, and “incandescent” at such a synthesis.

  140. Flaming June

    9 Jul, 2013 - 12:50 pm

    [Mod/Jon: contribution removed. It’s fine not to engage with particular individuals, but please avoid sideswipes! Thanks]

  141. “Look, plebs! He’s wearing BLUE!”

    Just in case anyone* thought Salmond was the only politician shamelessly seeking the appearance of competence by association…


  142. Suggest posters interested in the likelihood that the Flight 214 disaster was an act of sabotage, read Tom Kovach’s “”Asiana 214 crash-sabotage??”, noting that the aircraft had an in cockpit emergency 5 minutes before the crash, causing the air traffic controllers to assure them that emergency crews would be on the ground for one, and the control system may have been sabotaged internally.

    Interesting, does not have the US government, especially NSA’s CyberCommand, as a possible culprit.

    Of course, then there are all the questions about officialdom and the media lying so much about its cause, timing, and the brave, trained crew.

  143. Flaming June

    9 Jul, 2013 - 1:14 pm

    It has been decided by the inquest jury that the Angolan man Jimmy Mubenga who was deported in October 2010, in the care of three G4S operatives, died unlawfully after he was restrained.

    His widow wept and cried out his name twice when the verdict was announced.

    What has Mrs May got to say?

  144. Hope this is the link: Crossbow

  145. The Palestinian BDS National Committee calls for freezing “Knesset” membership in Inter-Parliamentary Union in Light of Racist Laws

    Posted on July 9, 2013 by Palestinian BDS National Committee

    “Prawer Plan” to uproot and dispossess indigenous Bedouin-Palestinian Communities in the Naqab (Negev) is latest definitive evidence of the colonial nature of Zionism

  146. Tom Kovach’s article has been apparently taken down on without a trace.

    So much for our rights in today’s world.

  147. Kibo Noh PhD Quantum Stuff

    9 Jul, 2013 - 2:52 pm


    Thanks for teaching me about Quantum Stuff.

    I never realized it was so simple.
    I read a bit and have it boiled down to this:

    Big stuff = Common-sense, logical, Newtonian.

    Small stuff (and anything related to global politics) = Weird, dream/nightmare-like, Habbakukian

    Thus, for example Clarke’s small cat, once launched towards Nevermind’s catless friend by the Craig Murray Cat Adoption Service’s ground-breaking delivery system, whilst in motion, can only be observed to be a dog, but the instant it comes to rest, it has all the components of a cat again, (though radically and rather messily re-arranged).

    Or to give it more political twist. A gulf despot’s entrail-eating, sarin-spraying little rebel, once landed in the rubble that was once Syria, will invevitably manifest as a democracy-bringing, justice-loving, cross between Gandhi and Mother Teresa. (Just as we can observe of his small friends in that new heaven-on-earth known as Lybia.)

    My new-found quantumness has made me realise that the online entities I had all along regarded as trolls, are in fact massive intellects, able to navigate the quantum seas with ease, while the rest of us flounder on the rocks of rationality.

    @ Passerby.

    I was going to include Mad Mel in my explanation, by there are some places even a quantum expert like me dare not go for fear of irreparable damage to their neural circuitery. On this issue, for the moment, great physicits can only stand back in awe and simply observe.

  148. Flaming June

    9 Jul, 2013 - 3:39 pm

    BREAKING NEWS:US intelligence leaker Edward Snowden accepts Venezuela’s offer of asylum, senior Russian politician tweets

    But how does he get there?

  149. swimming?

  150. ‘Swimming to Veneuela’, a new monologue.

  151. “What has Mrs May got to say?” Flaming June, 1:14pm, 9.7.13.

    Possibly, “We think it was worth it” (reprising Madeline Albright)?

  152. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)

    9 Jul, 2013 - 4:10 pm

    [Mod/Jon: thanks for the mod report. “Trolls” isn’t offensive, but since Mary is not wishing to debate with you, it would be best for her to ignore you entirely. In the meantime, please just debate without repeated calls to moderator – many thanks!]

  153. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella!)

    9 Jul, 2013 - 4:15 pm

    “Craig’s blog: All human life is there.
    Especially if it has to do with royalty or even their lawnmowers. ;)”
    _________ You’re absolutely right. I was personally most impressed with the breathless account of who was in the Royal Box at Wimbledon and what Mrs Beckham was wearing – so “Hello” !

  154. The quantum leap may be the cause of the security-industry/oppression-organizations’ getting all hot under the collar;

    Jail for internet troll over Facebook threats to kill 200

    Thousands of children were kept away from school after Reece Elliott, 24, of Fossway , left sick messages on a tribute site for a 17-year-old Tennessee girl who was killed in a car accident.

    Note that the supposed “terrorist” was sitting in a little northern town and is identified as such, however since then he has been arrested and kept in detention, and finally handed a lengthy jail sentence! Ironically if he had stabbed someone, or he had poked someone’s eye out, in all probability he would have been getting a lighter sentence.

    Fact that the oppression-organizations are relentlessly perusing the would be “terrorists” is further highlighted through identification and arrest of a sixteen year old boy, who has tweeted; @Pink I’m ready with my Bomb. Time to blow up #RodLaverArena. Bitch.

    Evidently he was tweeting the lyrics from a Pink song;

    A teenage boy is facing criminal charges after he set off a bomb scare by tweeting some of the lyrics of a Pink song at the US pop songstress’s concert on Sunday night at Rod Laver Arena

    Note the speed of the operations in identification of the latter individual, that is followed by locating the boy in the arena, and identifying him in person, and then carrying out his arrest, and ejection from the concert.

    This is akin to the sixties intelligence scare that eggs were to be filled with “acid” for an upcoming party! The cops took the “acid bombs” pretty seriously and for real, resulting in stop and heavy frisking of the hippies to find the acid bomb. Needless to point out, the acid that hippies were interested in was not the caustic substance that the police were searching for.

    However, given that Snowden is holed up somewhere, whilst the aeroplanes of the heads of state are being forced down and searched, for him. This because Snowden let the cat out of the bag about the extent of surveillance that we the people are under.

    As corroborated by the fact that the spies jump into action to identify a “would be terrorist” in a small northern town, miles away form Tennessee US, and arrange for his arrest, and subsequent trial in UK. Or the said spies, identify a sixteen year old boy, attending a concert and arrange for his arrest and ejection, is a peculiar outcome. What are these guys spying on, and who are they punishing for their perceived deviations from the prescribed path, or are these oppression-organizations simply coercing the rest of us to toe the line?

    It started in the airports; “did you pack your bags, yourself?”

  155. Ben Franklin -Machine Gun Preacher (unleaded version)

    9 Jul, 2013 - 4:37 pm

    Heh, Komo. Break out of your three-dimensional physics for the Quantum Leap I’m referring to.

    Proceed from the static world of John Locke and enter the realm of Existentialism, where reality is bendable like Einsteinian ‘wavicles’ . Holy shite, even he couldn’t calculate the Unified Field Theory.
    The World’s we don’t see are unfathomable because we continue to think like the Empiricists.

  156. The link is again available on google.

    The most interesting bit is this:

    “The fact that conditions were difficult inside the cockpit is supported by air-traffic control
    radio conversation between Asiana and the KSFO control…At least five minutes prior to landing Asinan 214 had declared an in-flight emergency (IFE). The controller can be heard twice assuring the Asiana pilot that “emergency vehicles are on their way.”

    So why are we leing told massive disinformation and lies about what happened and why?

  157. Here’s the biography of the guy Trowbridge is quoting

    [Mini Biography By: Kovach, Tom]

    and here’s his blog

  158. and here are his ‘reasons’ why Asiana 214 could have been sabotaged

    “Who would have motive to bring down an airliner? North Korea seems a likely possibility, given their recently-expressed anger over American sanctions for a series of North Korean ballistic missile tests in recent weeks. China might want to flex muscle with regard to the giant amounts of debt owed to Chinese interests by American government and businesses. There is the possibility of a disgruntled aircraft maintenance worker.

    “And, there is the possibility of someone wanting to intentionally bring down an airliner, but make it look like a malfunction, in order to bolster the “random spark” scenario regarding the 1996 crash of TWA Flight 800.”

  159. This’ll cheer Craig up no end, and ensure a speedy post-op recovery.

    Let’s not begrudge, but cheer and be happy for those who make a success of their lives. There’s nothing worse than the politics of envy, so let’s all resolve to try and emulate the achievements of these shining beacons of our glorious age.

  160. “I cannot as a responsible pedant let that past”

    Hemos passado.

  161. Flaming June

    9 Jul, 2013 - 7:56 pm

    Herbie Are you trying to give Craig a relapse? That display of wealth (stolen from the people) is obscene.

    The title of this piece by Craig is not to be taken in the way it appears!

  162. ‘Investigative Report On Michael Hastings Crash’

    “San Diego 6 has done an investigative report into the death of Michael Hastings and, in the process, have confirmed that a cover-up of the ‘real’ cause of his death is underway. Both police and the fire department have been TOLD not to comment for this story and a police report was not made available. Why not? What do they have to hide if this was merely ‘a crash’?”

  163. So Much For Middle East Democracy

    By Eric Margolis

    July 09, 2013
    “The real story behind the military coup in Cairo led by General al-Sissi is much more complex than the western media is reporting. Far from a spontaneous uprising by Egyptians, – aka “a people’s revolution” – what really happened was a putsch orchestrated by Egypt’s “deep government” and outside powers – the latest phase of the counter-revolution against the so-called Arab Spring.”


  164. “so let’s all resolve to try and emulate the achievements of these shining beacons of our glorious age.” – Herbie

    Looks exactly like where I grew up.

    Except for the swans.


  165. doug scorgie

    9 Jul, 2013 - 8:48 pm

    John Goss
    8 Jul, 2013 – 12:56 pm

    “It is one of the reasons that I raised the epetition of which somebody has already experienced difficulties signing because of a warning message not to open the file.”

    John, I signed the e-petition when you put it up on 5th July at 11:50pm but I hadn’t opened my e-mails until today (9th July).

    The confirmation reply was not there and neither were there any e-mails for the last 5 days from anyone. Nothing!

    I accessed your petition site again just now to resend and saw this:

    Closing: 05/07/2014 12:08


    “If you have already signed this petition, but didn’t receive an email to confirm your signature, you can request a confirmation to be resent by providing your email address below.”

    I’ve done that but if the petition is closed I won’t be able to confirm my signing.

  166. My eyes were as big as dinner plates when I read this, but then I read the thing on down …

    “Ireland Rejects Edward Snowden Arrest Warrant From USA”

    (they’re quibbling – ‘Ireland’s Justice Minister Alan Shatter said there is nothing to prevent the US making a second application to the courts in Dublin on Mr Snowden.’

    I’m such an antisemite that I only found out relatively recently that Alan Shatter is not only Jewish but apparently a big Zionist.

  167. That — I’m such an antisemite that I only found out relatively recently that Alan Shatter is not only Jewish but apparently a big Zionist — was a PS.

  168. Wikileaks tweet

    We can confirm that a US extradition request for Mr. Snowden has been served on Iceland

  169. “(Reuters) – Former U.S. spy agency contractor Edward Snowden has not yet formally accepted asylum in Venezuela, the anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks said on Tuesday after a Russian lawmaker posted a statement to that effect on Twitter and then deleted it.”

    Is this intended to be a “false trail” of conflicting reports?

  170. “what Mrs Beckham was wearing – so “Hello” !

    Hello Habbabkuk – sorry, I’ve been skiting around between programmes, and missed your comment.

  171. Best to you Craig

  172. @Dreoilin.

    Re Alan Shatter Irland’s Justice Minister. During Operation Cast Lead this man was all over the media as self-appointed cheerleader for the IDF’s slaughter.

    His remit, in the opposition, at the time was “Spokesman for Children” for Fine Gael. I enquired whether allowing this performance discredited the party but never even received the customary acknowledgement.

    On an earlier thread I quoted Ireland’s shameful record over Shannon as reason for my fears for Snowden had asylum been offered in Ireland. Shatter was another.

    During Cast Lead his performance was compared by Aengus Ó Snodaigh TD “with that of Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda minister, (who) would have been proud of such comments.”

    He also said Shatter “had employed propaganda, twisted logic and half truths” in speaking to the Irish Parliament’s Committee on Foreign Affairs.

    So much for Ireland’s “Justice Minister”.

  173. God speed

  174. re the TWA800 disaster

    A new documentary alleging that the investigation into the crash was a cover-up made news headlines with statements from six members of the original investigation team, now retired, who, citing radar evidence indicating a possible missile, also filed a petition to reopen the probe. The documentary will air on July 17, 2013, the 17-year anniversary of the accident.

  175. Shatter would be well catered for in Karimova’s new gaffe. It’s got eleven bogs.

    Anyway. What’s he doing in Fine Gael. Their history makes the Failers look like angels, and he’s been with them a long time going way back to when there were still very vocal fascists publicly pontificating on behalf of that party.

    Oh. Wait. Got it now.

  176. Kibo Noh: I don’t have one on hand to reference, but imagine a graph of time on the Y axis, verses mass on the X axis, versed speed on a Z axis. Visualise this with your left hand out, with your thumb, forefinger and middle finger all at 90 degrees to each other. Thumb (pointing up) = time, middle finger (pointing right) = mass, and forefinger (forward) = speed. At tiny levels of each, at the centre of the graph near to where all three intersect, is where you find quantum physics operating. Tiny amounts of time, almost negligible mass, and indistinguishably small distances. Towards the right hand middle distance forward is where you will find relativity, Einstein’s equations operating, in a 3D cloud in our graph – effects governing very high speed, large amounts of mass, making it curve towards large amounts of time.

    So that’s basically the distinction between quantum and relativistic considerations – where on that graph your interest lies. Most of the time, in all our experiences, we’re in the middle ground where Newtonian physics operate, and the effects of the aforementioned two are negligible.

  177. Yes, the TWA 800 whitewash was a cruel joke at the time, with the lugubrious FAA stooge watching FBI make shit up.

  178. Hemos passado.

    lol (in Spanish)

  179. Ben-
    You are SERIOUSLY suggesting that we base our examination of the universe on THIS???

    <"The subjective thinker’s form, the form of his communication, is his style. His form must be just as manifold as are the opposites that he holds together. The systematic eins, zwei, drei is an abstract form that also must inevitably run into trouble whenever it is to be applied to the concrete. To the same degree as the subjective thinker is concrete, to the same degree his form must also be concretely dialectical. But just as he himself is not a poet, not an ethicist, not a dialectician, so also his form is none of theirs directly. His form must first and last be related to existence, and in this regard he must have at his disposal the poetic, the ethical, the dialectical, the religious. Subordinate character, setting, etc., which belong to the well balanced character of the esthetic production, are in themselves breadth; the subjective thinker has only one setting-existence-and has nothing to do with localities and such things. The setting is not the fairyland of the imagination, where poetry produces consummation, nor is the setting laid in England, and historical accuracy is not a concern. The setting is inwardness in existing as a human being; the concretion is the relation of the existence-categories to one another. Historical accuracy and historical actuality are breadth." Soren Kierkegaard (Concluding Postscript, Hong p. 357-358)

    (Tip of the hat to Wikipedia, there)

    Personally, I think inductively coupled plasma mass spectrometry has a bit more to offer us, and we’d better agree to differ.

  180. Re. Shatter – I’m diffident about commenting on Irish politicos, our own are bad enough, but here (scroll down) is the piece by Prof. Illan Pappe (himself Jewish, and ex-IDF) to which Shatter and the Israeli ambassador took objection.

    Seems to be no more than a statement of the facts.

    I also found a white supremacist site – which I will not compliment by linking – which makes the valid point that while Shatter appears to be very strong on derestricting immigration (of cheap labour) to Ireland, he has no quarrel with the very selective immigration policy of his favourite state.

  181. Einstein, zweistein, dreistein, with oli companies crowing about the vast resources still to be sucked up from ever greater depth, this sort of promising technology is finding no backers.
    What a pity, mind, it would probably take 3 nanoseconds for a protest group against it being formed here.

  182. @KibohNo’s special quantum powers.

    @Clarke. 4 41pm
    @Nevermind. 5 59pm

    WOW! 1hr 18mins!

    You’re doing a great job Craig, even when you are (likely) doped to the gills on a hospital bed.

    From CNN:

    “Wrong on so many levels.” Take a look at how the MSM distort the Craig Murray Cat Adoption Service’s ground-breaking delivery system. Don’t feel obliged to watch the whole 2min 33secs.


    Spoke too early, the family who said that they wanted her, decided that the trauma of their lost previous cat was still too large as to get another cat, so here we go again.

    Anybody wants purr purr, she’s house/garden trained, comes with travel box and litter tray. She does do mice and eats little, loves a chat and cuddles.

  183. Thanks, nevermind; it seems I’m in a hurry again.

  184. “Anybody wants purr purr”

    How old and what colour is this cat? Does it have any road sense and can it explain quantam physics to me?

  185. Or indeed teach me to spell quantam.

  186. “Re Alan Shatter Irland’s Justice Minister. During Operation Cast Lead this man was all over the media as self-appointed cheerleader for the IDF’s slaughter.”

    Yes, Kibo, but you find plenty of people in Ireland – who are not Jewish, and not politicians – who will defend Israel against all-comers. They think Israel=Holocaust=do-not-blaspheme-by-criticism. Probably because they rely on the MSM and haven’t read much about the plight of the Palestinian people. And RTE, for example, does little to inform them.

    I said a while ago here that I don’t like the site . I have reasons. They re-write/regurgitate MSM stories and then present them as news. They have a comment policy which means you can be deleted and blocked without explanation. On several occasions in relation to stories about Israel, I have tried to leave pro-Palestinian comments. Eventually, they deleted my comments and blocked me.

    Meanwhile, they have a lot of followers on Facebook, and they (the Journal) force you to log in, for commenting purposes, via Facebook or Twitter. Your profile is then hot linked at the top of your comment. When I clicked on some of the pro-Israel commenters, I found that their profiles said they were Americans who cited the American Jewish University as their alma mater. These people were not blocked.

    Anyway, yes, Shatter is an arrogant little shit, as his recent contretemps over information about Mick Wallace (and his own, Shatter’s, stoppage by the Gardaí) showed so clearly.

    In general, though, with certain exceptions such as the Briscoes, sometimes Mayors of Dublin, the (Southern) Irish population are not very aware of the religious affiliations of their politicians. In their local parish, yes, but not nationally.

  187. Nevermind, they may be encouraged to know that she seems to have good road-sense, too. Her previous keeper, Malcolm, lived on Highwood Road, which is the fairly busy road through the village. And according to the company that maintain the database for the ID chip in her ear, she somehow got from Hertford to Malcolm’s place, where she turned up as a stray. Malcolm often left her locked out of the house, so she must know how to stay safe in the Big Wide World. I’ve checked with the ID chip company (that’s how I know her age and history) and no one wants her back. Original name Sam, renamed to Kaylee by Malcolm’s daughter, but Cat doesn’t seem to recognise either. I call her Prrt!, she seems to like that.

    Phil, further details here:

  188. And if a home can be found, I’ll deliver her to anywhere in the UK, though if it’s well up North maybe not until August when I hope to be going to Scotland for the festival.

  189. She’s never worked for MI5 or MI6, as least not so far as I can tell…

  190. Probably Pussad, then.

  191. Anyone know anything about this?

    “Posted by Lori Price, 09 Jul 2013

    “Edward Snowden could fly under a United Nations passport. I thought of this idea when I recalled the history of South Africa’s Daily Dispatch editor and anti-apartheid activist, Donald Woods. Woods, who befriended Black Consciousness Movement founder Steve Biko, was banned for five years by the South African government.

    “An elaborate plan was concocted to smuggle Woods to freedom; the plan to escape commenced on New Year’s Eve, 1977. While under house arrest, Woods evaded his guards. “Woods hitchhiked 300 miles (480 km) before attempting to cross the Tele River between South Africa and Lesotho…With the help of the British High Commission (in Maseru) and from the Government of Lesotho, [Woods and his family] flew under United Nations passports and with one Lesotho official over South African territory, via Botswana to London, where they were granted political asylum.”
    [Note: CLG News tweeted this Tuesday evening and WikiLeaks retweeted it – so hopefully, the idea will spread.]”

    I’ve never heard of a United Nations passport.

  192. gws

  193. I have a friend who not so long ago lost her last adopted cat but unfortunately she said no. Good luck Clark.

  194. X-Keyscore the “national Intelligence collection mission system” processes all signals (data packets) from the United Kingdom including all downloads from UK web servers.

    (?).. use PGP to encrypt everything. ‘Clark’ has already shown the way. It will annoy the eavesdroppers, the peeping Toms and crucially it will pull power from the snoopers.

    Please don’t be shy..

  195. @pt


  196. I have just been listening to this on Radio 4.

    I billion Indian citizens are being given digital identities, using fingerprints and iris recognition, and a unique identity number. The technology is available to banks and state bodies on the so-called need, as perceived by the World Bank and others, to lift people from poverty. State control of citizens more like. Incidentally there was no public debate about its introduction.

    Listen to the American researcher who has expert knowledge of such systems.

    India is rolling out the largest and most technologically ambitious digital identity scheme in the world. Already 400 million of its 1.2 billion population have signed up, submitting to fingerprint and iris scans at 30,000 enrolment centres around the country.

    “India has become the ultimate lab for digital identification technology. No country has ever tried to collect this much information in this short a period of time, with this new a technology,” says American researcher Tarun Wadhwa, author of a forthcoming book on national ID schemes. “That’s why the world is watching so closely. If you can make it work in India, you can make it work almost anywhere in the world.”

    National ID cards have been firmly rejected in the UK and elsewhere because of concerns about data security. But the Indian Unique Identity Scheme, known as UID or Aadhaar, has forged ahead without legislation to regulate such a massive data collection exercise.

    The scheme is voluntary yet millions of people are queuing up to enrol. Mukti Jain Campion discovers why as she visits urban and rural enrolment centres around the country and meets the chairman of the project, Nandan Nilekani, former CEO of the outsourcing giant Infosys, who believes the scheme will transform India and help to lift millions out of poverty.

  197. The cost of the scheme is $3.1 billion. Do ALL Indians have enough food and water, a house and sanitation? No of course they don’t.

    The official estimates for the project is INR18,000 crore (US$3.1 billion).

  198. Edward Snowden could fly under a United Nations passport.

    I was thinking that shortly before you posted, oddly enough. The main purpose of these seems to be to provide passage for UN employees, but I once came across a Kurd* in Turkey who showed me his UN passport, and claimed he’d got it because his Turkish passport had been cancelled. Maybe that’s possible.

    * He said. He had a bloodcurdling back story, but he was just as likely to have been a Turkish policeman.

  199. Clark, just put the bloody thing down.

  200. Flaming June

    10 Jul, 2013 - 1:13 pm

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