Andy Myles

by craig on March 26, 2014 11:18 am in Uncategorized

One of my oldest and dearest friends has gone public on his support for Scottish Independence. I am greatly cheered by this. More thoughts later.

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  1. What a pathetic showcasing of apparent party politcal discourse that was yesterday, from all three of them. He who sold his soul Wilson was bamboozled by the two cockerels and the media lapped it up, Electioneering to the marginals.
    Just love to hear the conversation on the doorstep, to both of them…’so you say Putins nailboot antics at home and abroad are the right thing to do? do you?…..

    Most important news yesterday was Ban Ki Moons announcement of a devastating UN climate report, that should come out today, not that this matters to the BBC Today programm, and the question should now be answered as to what we will be the precautionary planning to house some 20-40 million Bangladeshi’s soon.
    Well, my guess is in approx. 20 years plus.

    Equally, 89 cm rise of sea levels this century should galvanise the insurance giants and Governments somewhat, should we now contemplate building a superdyke from Norfolk to Kent with massive locks and tidal energy systems replacing dangerous nuclear PWR power, safeguarding the Thames and London, leaving acces via a new barrier, and protecting the Blackwater estuaries and low lying Essex, all Suffolk estuaries, with Harwich and Felixstowe getting a moving barrier too, and buying us all some 150 years time?

    @ Mark G. Have left you a little link to a very good filmaker who has travelled widely in Iraq, pg.3 on the previous thread.

  2. Did I just advertise pg 3? I’ll ask myself… whatever next!

  3. It isn’t a PR company. It is there to receive his earnings on which he will pay corporation tax exactly like the TV and media people rather than income tax. Still a free country, just.

    To me Russia and Iran are not the bogeymen as they are portrayed by the paleocons in the western media. We are not going to agree.

  4. Thanks Herbie for the link and Tony M -a penetrating read. I have sent a letter to Dutch Embassy entitled ‘Busted’ over Ukraine.

    I asked, “is this [Hromadske’s biggest funding] symptomatic of past history when ‘Ivar the Boneless’ -Marauding Danish Conqueror hit the shores of Britain?

    (Trying desperately hard not to confuse the word Danish with the word Dutch).

  5. Are you being stress-tested Danielbot, you’ve directed your bile to the wrong person, a completely innocent nice person. Don’t over-stress your cpu. Fred says that about everyone, it’s a term of endearment. I would be moderated if I expressed my suspicions about you.

    Fred (Bull) was actually referring cruelly, maliciously unfairly and irrationally to Juteman in that unpleasant tirade, not Jemand. Jemand has made some very strange posts such as the one above, but also some thought-provoking ones, I’d rather hear from Jemand than hear any of Fred’s foul-mouthed eruptions and I’d rather hear from Juteman all day long than either of the other two, or you.

    I think you should apologise to Juteman for repeating Fred’s slurs.

    Your job is done anyhow, what do you care who you’ve maligned wrongly.

  6. Ba'al Zevul (Whose Dog Are You?)

    27 Mar, 2014 - 2:10 pm

    “…it’s not a PR company…”

    http://ytchannelembed.com/video.php?id=x1FB_sB2XdI

    Pay per click. Ok, it’s his personal TV station. However you cut it.

  7. So funny. From Medialens.

    Had a look at the Sun this morning, (a work colleagues, I swear) there was a story about a 16 inch rat that had been caught somewhere; it was named ‘Putin’, after rudely invading the family’s home.

    Seriously.

  8. Only now read your piece anode, well said.
    Also thanks to Tony M for being succinct, I think the BBC is slowly working themselves to a frenzy, come the referendum. They are desperate to show Scottish voters that they are impartial, unbiased and that they would not like to loose 5 million broadcasting tax payers. Tough the day may come not soon enough.

    Re: excuse, yes he should say sorry to Juteman, but some can’t ever spill those words across their lips, they get palpitations writing it.

  9. Ba'al Zevul (Whose Dog Are You?)

    27 Mar, 2014 - 2:30 pm

    “…. he will pay corporation tax….”

    Indeed. So much cheaper (25%) than paying personal tax on his earnings. And, as you say, a widespread dodge. Wonder if I’d get away with it?

    “Channelling payments through a private company permits these earnings to take advantage of corporation tax of around 21 per cent rather than all of his earnings being subject to income tax, which rises to 45 per cent on earnings above £150,000.

    Those who structure their affairs in this way can offset the cost of clothes, cars and other work-related expenses against their income. There are also potential savings on National Insurance.

    Respect, the political party Mr Galloway represents, called for the stamping out of tax avoidance and associated loopholes in its 2010 general election manifesto.

    In a speech during last year’s election campaign for the Scottish parliament, Mr Galloway said: “We support progressive taxation that means the rich will pay more. We will campaign to close all tax loopholes – this measure alone would bring in an estimated £120 billion in unpaid or avoided tax and eliminate the budget deficit in a flash.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9192330/George-Galloway-faces-questions-over-tax-affairs.html

    Still, he wasn’t claiming expenses (Channel 4: 10 O’Clock Live, 4 April 2012 (Series 2, episode 6 23 minutes in, maybe still on Youtube or summat).

    He says.

    http://fullfact.org/sites/fullfact.org/files/styles/large/public/MPs%20Expenses%202.JPG?itok=WW3M9c6A

    At risk of being tedious, Mary…and I don’t really care…would you stand for this from a Tory?

  10. Ba'al Zevul (Whose Dog Are You?)

    27 Mar, 2014 - 3:20 pm

    Some timely self-flagellation from Labour –

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/10715010/New-Labour-is-to-blame-for-the-Scottish-independence-vote.html

    It’s all Blair’s fault that the natives are revolting….

    Note also that Ben Riley-Smith, Scottish reporter, cannot spell ‘privatisation’. Repeatedly. The Torygraph’s going down the drain.

  11. Does he employ anyone in his family?, Ba’alzevul, do you know?

  12. I don’t care one bit either but carry on if you must.

  13. Ba'al Zevul (Whose Dog Are You?)

    27 Mar, 2014 - 3:34 pm

    Good site, more on Riley-Smith –

    http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/a-friendly-plea-to-ben-riley-smith-of.html

    Re GG, I imagine his youngest, by his third wife, the second of whom was born just four months before he married his fourth wife, are probably too young for politics. Though Embryo Hague set an alarming precedent…but a quick search indicates that at least George isn’t doing a Blair/ Straw dynastic number.

    I will, Mary. I will. Thank you.

  14. Pleasing link-Happy days! Nevermind-The black cloth of death has covered the eyes of so many Iraq families.

    I pulled this archived interview from a man still fat, dumb, happy and at ease with his god:

    In another interview a week earlier, on January 14, on CBS’s 60 Minutes, Bush repelled any suggestion of responsibility for error in his Iraq policy. He located the lack of public support in the United States in the insufficient thanks offered by the Iraqis. “Do you think you owe the Iraqi people an apology for not doing a better job?” asked correspondent Scott Pelley. “That we didn’t do a better job or they didn’t do a better job?” replied the president. “Well, that the United States did not do a better job in providing security after the invasion.” “Not at all,” said Bush. “I am proud of the efforts we did. We liberated that country from a tyrant. I think the Iraqi people owe the American people a huge debt of gratitude, and I believe most Iraqis express that. I mean the people understand that we’ve endured great sacrifice to help them. That’s the problem here in America. They wonder whether or not there is a gratitude level that’s significant enough in Iraq.”

  15. “Fred says that about everyone”

    No I don’t, I have perfectly civilised discussions with loads of people here and other places too.

    If someone decides they would like to abandon civilised debate and resort to name calling then I’m happy to play that game too, I’m rather good at it.

    Everybody get to choose which sort of game they want to play.

  16. Did you know he’s painting dogs Mark and strange self portraits of himself in the bath and shower??

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/25/bush-paintings-exhibition_n_4854445.html

    Perhaps the self portraits are some attempt of self absolution of his sins? Like BLiar in the confessional perhaps?

    If these illustrated here are really his work, then a psychiatrist should be brought in or is he just laughing in our faces.
    http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2013/04/george-w-bush-paintings-new-photos

  17. Vultures right enough.

    ‘Private companies are helping to decide the future of the NHS.

    It’s come to light that a lobbying outfit working for big drug companies was paid by NHS England to write an important report. It’s claimed that this report could help shape £12bn (!) of NHS spending over the next five years. [1]

    The NHS is owned by all of us. But NHS England – the body that runs the NHS here – doesn’t have to publish conflicts of interest like this, or details of the lobbyists they meet with. We may never have even found out this was going on.

    If enough of us kick up a stink, we could force NHS England to come clean about who’s deciding the future of our NHS. Let’s show them that the taxpayers who fund them expect honesty about who’s advising them, especially when these people might profit from the decisions.

    Will you add your name to the petition to demand transparency over who’s deciding the future of our NHS?
    https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/NHS-lobbying-transparency

    Private companies getting involved in NHS decision-making is exactly what we all feared would happen when the government passed the Health and Social Care Act. As well as providing local services, private companies are now being ushered in at the top of the NHS.

    There’s no reason why NHS England can’t publish potential conflicts of interest or meetings with lobbying firms. Government departments regularly do this. [2]

    NHS England is less than a year old. They’re not used to being on the receiving end of a big people-powered petition. Thousands and thousands of names on a petition, delivered to their offices, could embarrass them into coming clean about who’s influencing them.

    Can you sign the petition and demand that NHS England register any links to big business?
    https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/NHS-lobbying-transparency

    38 Degrees members have voted time and time again to ensure that protecting our NHS is at the core of what we do. [3] It’s moments like this where we can come together and take action. Let’s fight to protect our NHS from the vultures that are circling it. The first step is to find out who they are.

    NOTES:
    [1] The Independent – Revealed: Big Pharma’s hidden links to NHS policy, with senior MPs saying medical industry uses ‘wealth to influence government’:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revealed-big-pharma-links-to-nhs-policy-with-senior-mps-saying-medical-industry-uses-wealth-to-influence-government-9120187.html

    [2] Who’s lobbying? – Government departments’ registers of meetings:
    http://whoslobbying.com/uk/departments

    [3] 38 Degrees blog post: Poll results: March 22nd 2014:
    http://blog.38degrees.org.uk/2014/03/24/poll-results-march-22nd-2014/

  18. Mary,

    Does matter who owns the a Nhs ultimately the people will decide the standard of which it operates.
    It comes down to money and the distribution that contributes to end user care.
    Quality of management then are responsible. There then their are good and bad managers.
    As politicians they are hand reared by reprobates in the case if G W Bush. They do a job.
    It is all systemic in our attitude.
    As with the vaccinations we are sincere in our reservations as people. Like Habba of high intelligence, why are they here instead of doing a useful job?
    Habba would make a better politician than Bush.

  19. Mark; Redemptive Awareness is not a quality contained in the Bush Dynasty.

    But then, sociopaths enjoy a care-free lifestyle when conscience is absent.

  20. doug scorgie

    27 Mar, 2014 - 6:56 pm

    Ba’al Zevul (Whose Dog Are You?)
    27 Mar, 2014 – 12:41 pm

    “I’m sufficiently old fashioned to think that regularly being paid by foreign media to advance the propaganda of foreign countries is not a legitimate occupation for an MP…”

    Anyone who knows Galloway’s politics knows full well that the views he expresses on Press TV or RT are his own and are views that he has expressed long before those channels offered him any shows.

    So Ba’al Zevul / Komodo or whoever; as you must be fully conversant with Galloway and his views you are being dishonest and misleading.

  21. Ben-Scot NON-collaborator

    27 Mar, 2014 - 8:11 pm

    A salient justification for Scottish Indys, ASAP?

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-crumbling-lockerbie-case/5366601?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-crumbling-lockerbie-case

    Why, then, have the Scottish police and Crown Office failed to approach the witnesses who can attest to the mismatch between the fragment and the Libyan timers – witnesses who include the man who made the boards used in the those timers, and two independent scientists? The obvious answer is that they want to avoid evidence that shows the official case to be built on sand.

  22. What a total hypocrite.

    Jack Straw’s tribute to ‘family man’ Tony Benn
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26776391

    Many comments today on Medialens about his funeral.

  23. “A salient justification for Scottish Indys, ASAP?”

    No Ben, one of the worrying things about independence is that the people would lose their right of appeal to the Supreme Court and the House of Lords. They would be left at the mercy of the Scottish establishment.

    Take a look at this site and all will be revealed.

    http://scottishlaw.blogspot.co.uk/

  24. Communication Management Units are a new kind of prison born out of 9/11. People, mostly Muslims, are banged away, imprisoned for no known reason. Readers of this blog who refuse to believe what is going on, or divert attention from the truth, must be ignored or everybody who opposes the US, will end up in some kind of high-security penal institution, regardlless of whether they have committed a crime or not.

    Annie P. Waldman investigates these little Guantanamos. Wake up world.

    http://www.vice.com/read/inside-the-kafkaesque-world-of-the-uss-little-guantanamos

    “It is becoming increasingly clear that the BOP is using these units to silence people, and to crack down on unpopular political speech. They have become units where the BOP can dump prisoners they have issues with or whose political beliefs they find anathema. In the months that come, with CCR’s help, I hope to prove that in court and show what is happening at the CMUs. This needs to be dragged into the sunlight.

    Less than three days after McGowan published his article on the Huffington Post, the Bureau of Prisons remanded him into custody for “publishing under his own byline,” a violation of his probation. Although McGowan was released after one evening and was not charged with anything, the detention deeply troubled him. It was a reminder of the bureau’s ability to curtail his freedom of speech. It was a reminder of the lack of transparent rationale or process. As in the CMU, it seemed to McGowan that the bureau was making up the rules and regulations as it went along.”

  25. A Node, thanks for your post in reply. I agree with what you say – yes, some disagreement is inevitable between people who broadly agree on things. I’m very much in favour of joint campaigns in general, unless the gap between groups is irreconcilable; for example, I fully support Craig being interviewed for Galloway’s film. The need to bring Blair and company to justice is of substantial importance.

    We should remember that disagreement amongst Left groups is always more likely (and of greater vehemence) than groups supporting the Establishment – this point is often forgotten. The distance that anti-war campaigners, feminists, socialists, and gay rights campaigners have to travel is much farther than those who believe in the status quo. So, here, we have another reason for tolerating small differences.

    That all said, there’s no harm in sifting through Galloway’s views, in this small corner of the internet. I didn’t know his position on independence before his recent tour, so it has come as a surprise to me. I’d have greatly thought that his views would have matched mine: London’s arrogance is that Westminster will retain as much power over Scotland – and its
    income – as it can. Some minor powers may be devolved, but they will be carefully circumscribed, if they are even delivered upon.

    Meanwhile, Scotland is in social terms more generous than the English, poisoned as we are with the anti-politics of middle class envy and the petty jostling within a class pecking order of our own making. So, when Scot’s views are genuinely sought, achieving policy that is a social benefit to Scotland might extend beyond excellent outcomes such as free higher education. I see an independent Scotland as putting forward Scotland’s majority view on war, too. Even a campaign like Yes, wanting to be all things to everyone, is happy to state unequivocally: nuclear weapons are immoral and London can find a new home for them. Good for them, I say.

    I’d have thought all of the above would be the poke in the eye that Galloway believes Westminster deserves, after Iraq, and austerity, and the increase in the wealth gap. With all that in mind, the “Naw” position seems to be: Scotland, don’t abandon us to the Tories! We’re better off being mediocre together!

    I should welcome further notes on these reflections. Meantime – though I forget who used to be annoyed at my love of a good dram – a small Scotch is called for! Tomatin, I think – not a well known distillery, but highly recommended.

  26. “I didn’t know his position on independence before his recent tour, so it has come as a surprise to me.”

    If you check I think you will find that George has always spoken out against Right Wing Nationalism. He opposes Nationalists in his English constituency, he opposes Zionism in the Middle East.

  27. I hope the Berezovsky family request a second inquest and that the police keep the case open. I believe the word of the German pathologist, Progessor Brinkmann who said that Berezovsky did not hang himself and that there were two people involved.

    Germany has a reputation for excellence in forensic pathology.

    Open Verdict In Berezovsky Death Inquest
    The coroner’s finding follows months of speculation over whether the Russian oligarch was killed or committed suicide.
    http://news.sky.com/story/1233125/open-verdict-in-berezovsky-death-inquest

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernd_Brinkmann

    ‘However, evidence pointing to suicide was called into question when an expert on hanging and asphyxiation cases said he believed Mr Berezovsky had been strangled.

    Professor Bernd Brinkmann said: “In my view there is no way for death by hanging.”

    He told the hearing there was evidence to suggest two people were involved in the death of the businessman, who was known to have survived two assassination attempts.

    Firstly, the marks on his neck were “far away from the typical inverse ‘V’ shape” usually seen in hanging cases, Professor Brinkmann said. Secondly, congestion to Mr Berezovsky’s face was not consistent with being hanged.’

  28. Professor Brinkmann of course.

  29. Ah Fred, if memory serves: you and I had that discussion before, and we were unable to resolve it. I’m aware that you see parallels between the campaign for Scottish independence and the BNP, but I’m afraid I still don’t see them. We will have to continue to agree to disagree on that one.

  30. Jon, welcome back. Scottish independence is a bit of an enigma for me. I am a recent convert to it because of Tory interference by getting its servants to threaten withdrawal of business from Scotland to put pressure on voters – a really disgusting piece of dirty politics. I am still an ardent supporter of the European Union which might seem like a contradiction. In essence I would like Scotland to be part of the UK but because it is running its economy more on socially-concerned policies, like the non-existence of university fees, and Westminster imposes all kinds of capping on town and county councils, it needs a sizeable part of the UK to show that London is not the only place of any significance. I would personally like to see Birmingham break away. We get so little from the national pot. London bankers get so much!

  31. Jon 27 Mar, 2014 – 10:34 pm
    “I’m aware that you see parallels between the campaign for Scottish independence and the BNP, but I’m afraid I still don’t see them.”

    Er, nationalism?

  32. Clark

    Are ya serious about coming to Stay in Scotland… i shall keep my ear to the ground for ya..Inverclyde area.

  33. Independence movements may use nationalism as a means of rallying people, but they’re always much more braodly based than that.

    That’s why you often get civil wars after the event.

    So far as I can see the SNP mostly make economic arguments.

    I’d say that the BNP types are mostly on the Unionist side of the argument, the remnants of British empire nationalism.

  34. “So far as I can see the SNP mostly make economic arguments.”

    Oh good, do they have the budget deficit forecasts?

  35. “Oh good, do they have the budget deficit forecasts?”

    There certainly do appear to be some differences of opinion over oil revenues and whether they’re decreasing or not.

  36. “There certainly do appear to be some differences of opinion over oil revenues and whether they’re decreasing or not.”

    So that just leaves us with the “unfair, biassed, scaremongering” economic arguments then.

  37. fred 27 Mar, 2014 – 11:30 pm

    “Oh good, do they have the budget deficit forecasts?”

    Let’s check the UK deficits while we’re waiting, Fred ………
    Ahhh …… an average of 131.25 billion/year for the past 4 years.
    And your point was, Fred ….?

    http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/3/20/1363802502484/Deficits-by-chancellor-001.jpg

  38. ” Scottish independence is a bit of an enigma for me. I am a recent convert to it because of Tory interference by getting its servants to threaten withdrawal of business from Scotland to put pressure on voters – a really disgusting piece of dirty politics.”

    John it didn’t happen.

    They are businesses not charities. They will go where they make most profit which is the country where most of their customers are. The UK government didn’t get them to do it any more than the Scottish government got the ones that say they will stay to stay.

    It’s all bottom line with businesses, if there is no monetary union then the businesses with most of their customers in the UK will move to the UK and those with most of their customers in Scotland will stay in Scotland. Anything else is just Nationalist propaganda.

  39. “Let’s check the UK deficits while we’re waiting, Fred”

    At least they will be this year’s forecasts.

  40. “At least they will be this year’s forecasts.”

    Not a strong inducement to stick around, though

  41. “Not a strong inducement to stick around, though”

    Their honest, based on this year’s figures, they aren’t still using last years figures because they’re better.

  42. “Their honest, based on this year’s figures, they aren’t still using last years figures because they’re better.”

    They’re honestly terrible, then.

  43. I can’t understand why some folk get so vexed over the issue of independence.
    It seems a very simple matter of democracy to me.
    Should countries govern themselves, or should they get a neighbour to run their affairs for them? I would think the people best placed to govern a country are those that live there.

  44. Jon, Fred

    Do you categorize in any way yourselves?

    Good/bad
    Educated/uneducated

  45. Ba'al Zevul (Liberté, Egalité, Shopping Malls!)

    28 Mar, 2014 - 8:32 am

    “Anyone who knows Galloway’s politics knows full well that the views he expresses on Press TV or RT are his own and are views that he has expressed long before those channels offered him any shows.

    So Ba’al Zevul / Komodo or whoever; as you must be fully conversant with Galloway and his views you are being dishonest and misleading.”

    No, I think that’s unfair. I don’t think RT or (especially) PTV would buy time from anyone who wasn’t prepared to advance their agenda, whether he was aware of it or not. I don’t know if he approached them or they him, but that’s irrelevant IMO, as the ideological fit – as you say – was well known in advance. And as an MP – which he chose to be – he has responsibility to this country first and foremost.

    As I said earlier, I am equally critical (on the record) of those admirers of the US and Israel who sell, or even lend, their talents to the agendas of those countries. As an MP, he has a clear responsibility to his constituents, within the context of their being British citizens, and as I have said, with figures, he doesn’t seem to make this his priority.

    I stand by what I said, therefore. I think he is at best naif, and at worst a self-promoting, self-deluded Messianic chancer in the Blair mould, whom you would damn utterly were he a Tory, and rightly so. That said, I freely acknowledge his adoption of the Palestinian cause , with the caveat that by further polarising the issue, and placing himself firmly outside mainstream politics (which has the only power available to change things) he is probably not helping the Palestinian cause as much as he may think.

    But he’s not actually important.

  46. Ba'al Zevul (Liberté, Egalité, Shopping Malls!)

    28 Mar, 2014 - 8:44 am

    Fred -“If you check I think you will find that George has always spoken out against Right Wing Nationalism. He opposes Nationalists in his English constituency, he opposes Zionism in the Middle East.”

    And he strongly supports Russian nationalism – which is no more leftwing than Prince Philip – in the Crimea:

    http://rt.com/shows/crosstalk/ukraine-significance-crimea-referendum-206/

    Just sayin’.

    The comments are fun, too.

  47. Ba'al Zevul (Liberté, Egalité, Shopping Malls!)

    28 Mar, 2014 - 8:56 am

    Fred, A Node: ““Their honest, based on this year’s figures, they aren’t still using last years figures because they’re better.”

    Any chance of seeing the figures from either side? With some idea of how they are reached? I’d welcome the chance not to have to search the Google world of finance myself, and I’d like to see this catfight underpinned by solid numbers. Not a chance, though. We are dealing with predictions, and , inevitably, predictions massaged by each side to suit its own cause. Fred, you’re between a rock and a hard place. You have to believe statistics emanating from a Tory government to make your Socialist case. Caution!

  48. “And he strongly supports Russian nationalism – which is no more leftwing than Prince Philip – in the Crimea:”

    I don’t tend to watch RT much but I’d assumed George supported the union of Crimea and Russia.

  49. Is Craig’s tweeting brevity encouraging concise responses; hope so.

  50. http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WhatIsLeftOrRightWing

    Against exploitation and slavery!

  51. “Jon, Fred

    Do you categorize in any way yourselves?”

    Rational, I categorize myself as rational.

    There are right wing Nationalists in very other country and I find it hard to believe there aren’t any in Scotland.

    Especially as I’ve come across quite a few.

  52. A bit of light distraction for those who have difficulty with the spam maths used in posting a comment.

    4 x 4 + 4 x 4 + 4 – 4 x 4 =

    Just put a single answer with no comment about it please.

  53. Those who don’t have difficulty with the spam test can have a go too. Habbabkuk phone a friend!

  54. “I can’t understand why some folk get so vexed over the issue of independence.
    It seems a very simple matter of democracy to me.
    Should countries govern themselves, or should they get a neighbour to run their affairs for them? I would think the people best placed to govern a country are those that live there.”

    It might be difficult to understand if you see everything in terms of “us and them”.

    If you just see one big “us” it will make more sense to you.

  55. Fred,
    And just how big is your “US” ? How many borders do you wish to get rid of ?
    Who do you want to make your decisions for you ?
    Are you so insecure about your countrymen that you feel other nations are better equipped to make decisions ?
    Do you decide when it’s time to go to the Loo or does your mother still do that for you ?
    If the big US is Westminster and they made good decisions for Scotland then I might be inclined to agree with you,but they don’t and rarely have.As in Brussels which is another big US where there are over 70,000 lobbyists working daily to promote someone elses agenda,Westminster has their thousands of lobbyists working for business and not the people.The City of London has a rep sitting right behind the Speakers Chair making sure that Parliament does their bidding.The big US are left out by lobbied Interests.
    Or is the Big US , the UN ? Which is a very one sided ,corrupt institution allowing genocide and ethnic cleansing in Israel,but punishing it elsewhere.
    Who exactly is your big “US”?
    Scotland has been used as a testing ground for weapons and policies, as well as a dumping ground for nuclear waste and nuclear weapons.They are continually outvoted in a lopsided parliament.If Westminster says No ,it’s no, no matter if all 5.5 million Scots said Yes.
    There is no Big US in the UK!
    Independence will not fix everything,but it will allow the Scots to deal with their big US.

  56. Israeli soldiers shot dead Palestinian teen in cold blood

    March 27, 2014

    (Al-Akhbar) – Israeli occupation forces who shot dead a Palestinian teenager in the West Bank last week used live fire, without warning, against innocent youngsters out foraging for roots, an Israeli rights group said Wednesday.

    After investigating the March 19 death of 15-year-old Yussef Sami Shawamreh, B’Tselem said it had found no evidence to support the army’s version of events that troops had opened fire at youths who had “sabotaged” the West Bank apartheid wall.

    /..
    http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2014/03/israeli-soldiers-shot-dead-palestinian-teen-cold-blood/

    B’tselem is the Israeli founded and staffed Human Rights group of whom the British government professed to have no knowledge last week in the HoC.

  57. O/T
    You Tube is banned in Turkey.Twitter a few days before that.
    Erdogan has gone mad.
    MSM have reported the ban ,but not the reasons you tube got banned.
    It was banned because it exposed a high level discussion in Erdogans military command discussing using Al Qaeda to missile attack a shrine in Syria which is guarded by Turkish special forces.They then state that this would be a cause of war between Syria and Turkey.
    False Flag’s by a NATO country would bring all of NATO into the fight.
    Parliament wouldn’t be needed to go to war then,because of our NATO commitments.
    Or am I wrong about that ?

  58. @JG … 20

  59. Ha!

    Embassy of Israel – London

    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 08:17

    Subject: Automatic reply: Hebron

    Thank you for your message.

    We would like to share with you that Israeli diplomats and the employees of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are currently engaged in a labor dispute. As a result, we won’t be able to respond to this message or other requests.

    Our struggle is an attempt to strengthen the Israeli Foreign Service as a major contributor to national security, to its ability to promote Israeli values and interests, and to give a better service to Israeli citizens.

    We apologize for any inconvenience.

    Plus a version in Hebrew. What is the Hebrew for ‘Trouble at mill’?

  60. DonnyDarko, you’re probably right. There are so many false flags kicking off and have kicked off in the US aims at global domination, including the Ukraine and Somalia, it is probably true. My worst fears are that when the US realises that world domination is unachievable, it will only have nuclear weapons left. Knowing all these criminals will be facing war-crimes it will destroy the planet.

  61. @Kurtan

    At the time we went to war in Iraq the leaders of all three political parties were Scots. Just how much control did you want?

    Our local MP fought hard to have the first Nuclear reactor in Britain built here and a great benefit it has been and still is to our community. People who served apprenticeships at Dounreay, welders, electricians, went on to work offshore. I’ve never met anyone here wishes it had been built elsewhere, I’ve met an awful lot of people damned glad it wasn’t.

  62. Ba'al Zevul (Liberté, Egalité, Shopping Malls!)

    28 Mar, 2014 - 11:21 am

    “There are right wing Nationalists in very other country and I find it hard to believe there aren’t any in Scotland.”

    I notice you are defining your term very precisely. Is there such a thing at all for you as a left-wing nationalist (without capitals)? No? Then doesn’t any nationalist whatever necessarily figure as rightwing on your personal radar?

    The popularity of the SNP is by no means entirely due to its nationalism, and is arguably more due to its resonance with genuine Socialists (capital) who felt increasingly betrayed by Nu Labour’s Nu Thatcherism, and who demonstrably wanted no part of the Conservative and Unionist Party, which treated Scotland with complete contempt.

    Re unionists and nationalists, there’s a letter in the Guardian today describing the reaction of an Ulster prison officer to being asked how the prisoners of the two factions spent their time in jail. The unionists spent their time in the gym. The IRA boys spent their time reading and studying for degrees.

    Go figure.

  63. O/T-The Celtic force of Finian Cunningham

    This elite Western narrative espoused by Obama and his club of bankrupt European non-entity politicians has by now alienated a global audience at home and around the world. Certainly not in the Rembrandt class, but most people can now see elite Western posturing as a masterpiece of illusion.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38076.htm

  64. Ba'al Zevul (Liberté, Egalité, Shopping Malls!)

    28 Mar, 2014 - 11:27 am

    “I’ve never met anyone here wishes it had been built elsewhere,”

    I have. A universitu lecturer and researcher. He performed a plutonium particle survey on a nearby beach. And felt badly enough about it to detail what he had found in every module he taught.

  65. “I have. A universitu lecturer and researcher. He performed a plutonium particle survey on a nearby beach. And felt badly enough about it to detail what he had found in every module he taught.”

    What was his name? Where did he rather it was built?

    There were a lot of people died in the coal mines of South Yorkshire and Wales, I don’t remember many of the people who lived there supporting their closure.

  66. Ba’al Zevul (Liberté, Egalité, Shopping Malls!) 28 Mar, 2014 – 8:32 am

    “No, I think that’s unfair. I don’t think RT or (especially) PTV [Press TV] would buy time from anyone who wasn’t prepared to advance their agenda, whether he was aware of it or not. I don’t know if he approached them or they him, but that’s irrelevant IMO, as the ideological fit – as you say – was well known in advance. And as an MP – which he chose to be – he has responsibility to this country first and foremost.”

    This is an extract from an article written by the refreshingly honest Geoffrey Alderman in defence of Press TV when it was banned by Ofcom from broadcasting to Britain:

    “I believe this action by Ofcom to be thoroughly deplorable as well as palpably cynical. But before I go any further I must make two declarations of interest. The first is that I am a proud Zionist. The second is that within months of its establishment in the UK in 2007, I became an occasional broadcaster on Press TV, appearing mostly on panel discussions. In 2011, I made four such appearances, and received a total of £300 in fees, which I donated to Israel.

    My Zionist affiliation and sympathies are of course very well known to Press TV. But I have never been censored, nor has the company ever made the slightest attempt to get me to modify a particular view. Press TV’s considerable following in the Middle East has thus been exposed to opinions and arguments – especially in relation to Israel – that they might otherwise never hear. Now this voice of balance has been silenced.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jan/24/suppressing-press-tv-ofcom-licence

    This “proud Zionist” is getting an average of £75 per appearance on Press TV. He clearly isn’t doing it for the money. He appears to suggest that he is doing it to advance his Zionist views.

    Ba’al Zevul, does this advance the agenda of Press TV, and if so what are these agenda?

  67. Interesting, and relevant point, about nationalism from this article (I recommend the whole blog – it makes sensible points with an extremely cheeky humour). It refers to Michael White, a Guardian man, writing in New Statesman:

    As political analysis Michael’s Caledonian musings are not even anal, he just makes an arse of them. It’s more than a wee bit alarming that a politics guru can’t get over the simple word “nationalism” and appreciate that common or garden words mean different things in different contexts and that this is true in spades of political words. You’d think that would be the most basic tool of his trade.

    The goal of a movement which seeks self determination for a country without a state is qualitatively different from the nationalism of a political party which seeks to aggrandise an existing state and isolate it from the world in a red white and blue wet dream. The goal of Scottish independence is diametrically opposed to the goal of UKIP, and many if not most supporters of Scottish independence are nationalist only in so much as they recognise the existence of Scotland as a nation.

  68. Ba’al Zevul (Liberté, Egalité, Shopping Malls!) 28 Mar, 2014 – 8:56 am

    ” Any chance of seeing the figures from either side? With some idea of how they are reached? I’d welcome the chance not to have to search the Google world of finance myself, and I’d like to see this catfight underpinned by solid numbers”

    I wasn’t talking about a budget deficit forecast but Fred seemed to think I was and seemed to be on the defensive about it, so I didn’t correct him :)
    I couldn’t find a UK forecast so I quoted the budget deficits for the past four years, an average of 131.25 billion/year. Here’s the solid numbers:
    http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/3/20/1363802502484/Deficits-by-chancellor-001.jpg

  69. Ba'al Zevul (Liberté, Egalité, Shopping Malls!)

    28 Mar, 2014 - 12:15 pm

    Ba’al Zevul, does this advance the agenda of Press TV, and if so what are these agenda?

    Fair question. I don’t have enough information to answer it. But tokenism comes to mind. We have moved on from the days when Radio Moscow figured extolling the glorious people’s revolutionary advances in tractor gearbox production had any relevance to the West, and PTV isn’t simpleminded, I’ll give it that.

    The agenda of PTV, which is funded by the Iranian state, and said to be close to the Revolutionary Guard, is to advance Iranian interests. As it is entitled to do.

    And your exemplar isn’t an MP. Which was, after all, my point.

  70. Ba'al Zevul (Liberté, Egalité, Shopping Malls!)

    28 Mar, 2014 - 12:21 pm

    “What was his name?”

    What’s yours? As this is a public space, and I don’t have his permission, I decline to answer your question. However, he is English, a senior academic, meticulous, and additionally now holds a responsible position in local politics. If I have to take your (many) unsupported statements as fact, please return the courtesy. Thanks.

  71. Ba'al Zevul (Liberté, Egalité, Shopping Malls!)

    28 Mar, 2014 - 12:22 pm

    Thanks A Node. Telling indeed…

    Fred? Forecasts?

  72. Ba'al Zevul (Liberté, Egalité, Shopping Malls!)

    28 Mar, 2014 - 12:37 pm

    There were a lot of people died in the coal mines of South Yorkshire and Wales, I don’t remember many of the people who lived there supporting their closure.

    I don’t recall them objecting to improved safety procedures and cleanup of their localities either. I’m not talking about the people with a stake in the operation, anyway. Some of them would sell their own grannies for a job (forgivably; more of them, since Thatcher, and under policies pretty well endorsed by Nu Libor), and whistleblowers are severely discouraged. I’m talking about everyone else.

    Still, if you’ve developed a mysterious lump after swimming near Dounreay, on your head be it!

  73. Ba'al Zevul (Liberté, Egalité, Shopping Malls!)

    28 Mar, 2014 - 12:38 pm

    Left wing nationalists? Fred?

  74. Right said Fred !

    So you’ve gone from the big US to lokal hero?
    There was such a huge job pool and under employment in the the North of Scotland way back then that building a test reactor along with the weapons Dept was welcomed by the local sheep.
    It had nothing to do with the fact they needed large amounts of cold water and it to be as far away as possible from London.
    Sorry Fred , but you’re full of it!!

  75. You’ve got to do this test. Get it wrong and you can’t move to Scotland!!!

    4 x 4 + 4 x 4 + 4 – 4 x 4 =

    Just put a single answer with no comment about it please.

  76. Apparently 73% of people get the answer wrong in the above question.

  77. Pykrete

    Only 20 if you accept the normal conventions of mathematics – given JG doesn’t accept normal conventions (such as not telling people how to reply to your own comments) I suspect that he reaches a different answer – probably 0.8181818181 or similar.

  78. Ba'al Zevul (Einstein)

    28 Mar, 2014 - 1:54 pm

    320

  79. Ba'al Zevul (Einstein)

    28 Mar, 2014 - 2:01 pm

    Or 16

  80. Ba'al Zevul (Not Einstein)

    28 Mar, 2014 - 2:03 pm

    sorry, 20. But I got the Captcha right.

  81. 20

  82. 320

  83. Fred,
    below the cut and pasted quote there is the link to the article.
    Since you are probably not Scots and definitely not from the area, you’ve now become a local zero in my humble opinion.

    “Dounreay was chosen chiefly because of the assumed risk that, in the event of a catastrophic control system failure leading to core meltdown, a release of radioactivity to the environment was a likely consequence. This would result in the necessary evacuation of people living in the vicinity of the reactor, possibly within a radius of a few miles. The population density around Dounreay was very low, lower than that of West Cumbria. If it hadn’t been, the fast reactor would have certainly gone to Windscale. To its credit, the UKAEA has never made any secret of its prime reason for coming to Caithness.
    From the outset the authorities had sought to allay public fears about the fast reactor. Immediately after the Government’s announcement about Dounreay, Sir David Robertson, the charismatic MP for Caithness and Sutherland had addressed a packed meeting in Thurso’s Miller Calder Hall. Sir David’s speech is a masterpiece of tub-thumping triumphalism, in which he stated, with some justification, that had he not been the area’s MP the fast reactor project would never have come to Caithness. These far from modest claims were endorsed by his platform partners, Brigadier Keith Murray, Convener of Caithness County Council, and John Sinclair, Thurso’s Provost. John Sinclair advised the audience to continue eating fish, which would not be affected by the small amount of radioactivity discharged to the sea from Dounreay. He had personally sought the opinion of an expert who had studied data from surveys of the marine environment around Windscale, Sir David Robertson also promised to ensure that full compensation would be paid to anyone whose property or activities were adversely affected by the fast reactor. Reassuring words from well-respected public figures who had done everything in their power to ensure that the fast reactor came to Caithness. But when someone asked whether, given his assurances as to the reactor’s safety, Sir David would exchange his London house for a croft at Buldoo, the audience’s nervous laughter betrayed a still lurking sense of apprehension.

    Early in April 1954, the Scottish Trade Union Congress, meeting at Aberdeen, passed a motion calling for the outlawing of the hydrogen bomb in particular, and atomic weapons in general. One delegate warned that Dounreay would be a potential atom bomb; another asked what would happen if the reactor got out of control. A week later the Caithness Courier started a series of articles drawing its readers attention to an HMSO publication entitled Britain’s Atomic Factories. This booklet contained information on the discharge of liquid radioactive effluent from Windscale, concluding that no concentrations of radioactive contamination had been detected so far, and in Dounreay’s case, effluent would quickly disperse in the swift running waters of the Pentland Firth. The book also declared that while danger did exist, workers in the nuclear plants were better protected than in any other industry, a statement which, arguably, remains true today. Whether or not these learned articles had any pacific effect on local fears is uncertain. To any half-decent public relations officer, faith in a known and respected local person would have seemed a better bet.

    When Donald Carmichael arrived in Caithness in the summer of 1954, his prime mission appears to have been the recruitment of suitable staff for the fast reactor project. For weeks he journeyed all over the North, interviewing, assessing, sounding out likely candidates, relying on the contacts he had made as wartime officer in charge of shore radio stations in the northern highlands. From Tongue to Golspie he scoured the country, driven by Rab Murray whose father had owned a lemonade factory in Shore Street, Thurso, until the early 1950s’ when failure to keep pace with mechanised production methods had led to its closure. Rab was later to become one of the first two Dounreay transport drivers. ”

    http://www.internet-promotions.co.uk/archives/dounreay/doun3.htm

  84. “Sorry Fred , but you’re full of it!!”

    Well now I ignored your personal insults in your previous post.

    This time I’ll just tell you straight, I tell it how it is from first hand knowledge. If the truth doesn’t match your propaganda that’s your problem.

    Next time I will feel justified in responding in kind.

  85. Hi Fred

    there is an easy way to settle that.
    Is it pawldies or is it peevers ?

  86. “This booklet contained information on the discharge of liquid radioactive effluent from Windscale, concluding that no concentrations of radioactive contamination had been detected so far ….”

    If that was true then, it isn’t now.

    “Sellafield discharges two million gallons of radioactive water into the Irish Sea every day at high tide. This includes a cocktail of over 30 alpha, beta and gamma radionuclides. BNFL admits that radioactive discharges in the 1970’s were 100 times those of today. As a result of these discharges, which include around half a tonne of plutonium, the Irish Sea has become the most radioactively contaminated sea in the world. Caesium-137 and Iodine-129 from Sellafield have spread through the Arctic Ocean into the waters of northern Canada and are having a bigger impact on the Arctic than the Chernobyl accident. Sellafield’s gas discharges of Krypton can be measured in Miami.

    The guinea pigs in a ‘deliberate scientific experiment’ to find out levels of contamination in the food chain, were the Cumbrian people and their environment. Claiming then that the radioactive materials discharged from the 2km pipeline would dilute and disperse into the wider oceans, the industry clearly got it wrong, with high levels of radioactive discharge material washed ashore and trapped in the coastal sands and sediments.

    A leading government-backed scientist from East Anglia University discovered that plutonium particles, concentrated in waves breaking on the shore, was being blown over West Cumbria, as far as 37 miles inland.This was confirmed by analysis of vacuum cleaner house dust samples taken up and down the coast by a National Radiological Protection Board investigation.

    That Sellafield plutonium gets everywhere was shown in post-mortem examinations of former Sellafield workers. Concentrations of hundreds and in one case thousands of times higher than in the general population were found. Cumbrians who never worked at the plant had plutonium levels ranging from 50% to 250% above the average compared to elsewhere in Britain. Atomic Energy Authority scientist, Prof. Nick Priest, studied the teeth of over 3000 young people throughout Britain and Ireland. He found traces of Sellafield plutonium in varying doses, the highest doses being closest to Sellafield.”

    http://www.corecumbria.co.uk/tour/irishsea.htm

  87. “below the cut and pasted quote there is the link to the article.
    Since you are probably not Scots and definitely not from the area, you’ve now become a local zero in my humble opinion.”

    Well shit for brains you just posted a load of stuff confirming a lot of what I said and contradicting none of it.

    So as you are the one madly googling while I’m speaking from personal experience I don’t think your humble opinion is worth a shit.

    Your Nationalist bully boy tactics are not going to work on me so go fuck yourself retard.

  88. DoNNyDarKo 28 Mar, 2014 – 3:25 pm

    “Hi Fred

    there is an easy way to settle that.
    Is it pawldies or is it peevers ?”

    I’m born and bred in the Highlands and I don’t have a clue what your talking about. Leave out the anti-English comments, please.

  89. @Ba’al Zevul, So you have gone from bolding asserting that Galloway was “being paid by foreign media to advance the propaganda of foreign countries”, as if some sort of traitorous fifth columnist, to then accepting that the views he broadcasts are his own, but still claiming that he was advancing an Iranian agenda, either directly or inadvertently; when it’s pointed out to you that ardent Zionists are also paid to appear on PTV, you downplay this inconvenient fact that runs contra to your charge of PTV only employing pro-Iranian propagandists, as irrelevant “tokenism”, and try to defend your wandering, and increasing weakening, attempt to smear him, by stating that your point all along, from the beginning, was that as an MP, “he has a clear responsibility to his constituents, within the context of their being British citizens” & “he doesn’t seem to make this his priority”.

    So your charge really seems to be that as an MP, he doesn’t devote enough attention to his constituents, because of his attention to World affairs. So what does he track record show ?

    His serving as an MP in Glasgow for 18 years straight years, winning election after election, would tend to indicate that his constituents there appear to have no complaints about his service to them;

    “The George Galloway that the people of Glasgow say they know is quite different from the showy Commons performer and Labour party irritant. In Glasgow he is regarded simply as a fixer: a pensioners’ bus service; an asylum seeker’s complaint – the bread and butter of British politics.

    “People have this idea of George as the MP for the West Bank and not the west end of Glasgow and it’s not true,” said the constituency chairman, Mark Craig.

    One senior Westminster politician tells of an elderly widowed aunt who lives in Galloway’s constituency and became the target of vandals. She wrote to her MP, without mentioning her political link, to ask for help. “He got in touch with the chief constable who put a police car in front of her house for three days,” the MP said yesterday. “Although she is a west of Scotland Tory lady, my aunt thinks George Galloway walks on water.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/apr/23/uk.iraq4

    After being expelled from the Labour Party, he formed Respect & promptly won a spectacular victory in becoming MP for Bethnal Green and Bow in 2005; an area with a high immigrant population, in which his view & positions on international affairs, were actually an important factor as to why people voted for him; as to local issues, during his time as MP there, his Surgery was one of the busiest in the country, to the extent that at his own expense, he hired people to help out, and was attending the HOC practically everyday, including Bank Holidays, (even X-mas Day !). He didn’t stand again there, as he had already made clear before winning the seat, and instead stood & won his fifth election victory in Bradford West, again another area with a high immigrant population, where his interests in World affairs yet again played a role in his election success.

    So it seems that your doubly charge of neglecting his responsibilities to the people who actually voted for him, and concentrating too much on international affairs against their wishes, is not borne out, and the opposite is revealed to be true.

    Re your comment to Mary;

    “I have wanted to ask you, repeatedly, but usually managed to stop myself, as some wholly irrelevant interjection, usually C&P’d from the MSM, is yet again hurled into the middle of a discussion about something else”

    If I could afford to spend the time, I would find your comment address to a Habby, who was repeating this very same objection to Mary’s posts, in which you actually defended her right to do so, and advised him to simply ignore her posts if he didn’t like them; perhaps you should take your own advice.

  90. Guess you never played when you were a kid then A Node. No pavements ?
    Why do you think the question is anti-English ?

  91. “Guess you never played when you were a kid then A Node. No pavements ?”
    Country boy, mostly played in the woods :)

    “Why do you think the question is anti-English ?”
    I can’t see any other interpretation. Why did you ask it?

  92. “there is an easy way to settle that.
    Is it pawldies or is it peevers ?”

    Are you calling me a liar as well?

  93. I thought I was the shit for brains retard that had to go and fuck myself?
    You are such a tease, Fred. I thought I was special, and now I find out you sweet talk all the boys. :-(

  94. My mum played peevers, but our thing was pitchy.

  95. “I thought I was the shit for brains retard that had to go and fuck myself?
    You are such a tease, Fred. I thought I was special, and now I find out you sweet talk all the boys. :-(”

    I try not to put too much effort into flaming people, sort of defeats the object.

  96. Fred,

    Rationalist. Thanks,means well

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZs54pOJjB0

    For you today.

  97. @Jay

    I called my boat Peril.

    I get loads of people praying for me.

  98. I guess Fred never did, those early years must have been bleak.

    No conkers, no marbles, no hunts, no kick the can, no british bulldogs, no rounders.
    No friends, no company, no chance to learn empathy, social interaction, compromise.

    Anti-democratic and pro-nuclear contamination amongst the results of such deprivation.

    You are all snared by this damaged one, yet must it by now and know it’s futility squared.

  99. @Tony M

    Go fuck yourself pathetic little creep.

  100. You hussy, Fred. So that’s my insults finished?
    I went and got a box of tissues ready, and all for nothing. :-(

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