The Acanchi Effect

by craig on May 16, 2014 11:21 am in Uncategorized

The financial position of ailing marketing firm Acanchi underwent a startling transformation in 2012 just as they started work on creating the fake grassroots movement “Vote No Borders”.

In 2011 Acanchi’s auditors noted “The Company made a loss in the current year of £197,003, and at the balance sheet date its liabilities exceeded its assets by £385,162”. The company had a turnover of £25,631 against cost of sales of £21,283 and “admin expenses” of £201,125.

In 2012 Acanchi started work in Cambridge and London on developing the “VNB” PR campaign against Scottish Independence, which is surprising given that BBC propaganda portrayed VNB as a spontaneous movement of local Scots. We know they started in 2012 because one of Acanchi’s staff, Jessica Quiney, posted it on her CV on Linked-in. The CV page was deleted yesterday but not before Wings Over Scotland grabbed a screenshot.

This work for the No campaign coincided with an amazing turnaround in Acanchi’s financial fortunes. In 2011 they made a loss of £197,003. In 2012 they made a profit of £103,292. The income from sales went from £25,631 in 2011 to £348,835 in 2012.

There is a very interesting explanation given in the Directors’ report to the Acanchi annual accounts for 2012. It is signed by Gary Waple, the man who registered the “Vote No Borders” domain and who now works for the Regulatory Commission of the Bank of England. Mr Waple states in the 2012 Acanchi Directors’ report:

The nature of Acanchi’s business is that the award of government contracts is subject to external delays beyond the Company’s control. As stated in last year’s financial statement, the Directors’ forecast that there would be a significant improvement in these financial statements. This was achieved as the result of the company being awarded contracts in the current period which had been the subject of long on-going discussions in the past.”

So what was young Jessica Quiney doing at Acanchi at this period? Well, in 2012 she:

“collated and formatted material promoting the pro-Union arguments in opposition to the SNP’s call for Scottish independence including development of narratives, a positioning strategy and a programme of micro-initiatives for this project.”

In 2013 Jessica was:

“Involved in the development and implementation of a proposal and subsequent micro-initiatives for a campaign supporting the No vote in the Scottish Independence Referendum in 2014”.

Vote No Borders had nine adverts in one single edition of the Daily Record newspaper in Scotland this week, each giving the story of a single “grassroots” Scots punter and why they are against independence. These “narratives” were developed by Jessica Quiney, a Cambridge classics student, born in England and educated at Northampton High School. I can see no evidence she has ever been to Scotland. Interestingly the photographer, Claire Borley, who took all the photos of “typical Scots” for the No Borders campaign which are appearing in the newspapers, is also Cambridge based.

Claire Borley’s cv gives a stunning glimpse into just how real and gritty this “Scottish grassroots campaign” is:

Born and raised in Cambridge, my professional life has always been about communication.

After gaining an English degree and jumping in at the deep-end in Bermuda as a PA with limited shorthand but fast typing, I worked in television production in London. Here I built up a wide variety of skills working for the Walt Disney Company, Buena Vista International, Buena Vista Productions, Roger Bolton Productions, Wall to Wall TV and Windfall Films.

After spending a number of years on the production side of a visual industry I felt it was time to develop my own creative abilities. With this in mind I returned to Cambridge and continued to work successfully as a freelance photographer for advertising, editorial and corporate clients as well as private clients, musicians and performers.

My aim is always to capture the personality and essence of the individual moment and make each project unique for the client. This leads to much of my work being used for PR, marketing and multi-media broadcast. I enjoy working below the line (direct mail, flyers etc), above the line (mass media advertising) or through the line (bit of both).

Young Jessica Quiney has done nothing wrong. Despite the fact that Fiona Gilmore, 100% owner of Acanchi, was now by 2012 raking in 100 grand a year in profit, poor Jessica was not even being properly paid – she was an intern, an example of the appalling exploitation of our young generation and the total lack of respect in modern society for the value of labour against capital.

But what cannot be forgiven is the BBC’s extraordinary promotion of VNB as a genuine grassroots organization – in total just under 150 minutes were devoted to showing Gavin Esler’s puff piece on the BBC News Channel, not to mention at least 20 minutes on other BBC news programmes.

It has recently come to light that the UK government has been rocked by private polling costing £56,000 of taxpayers’ money, which shows a major fall in “No” support. It is incredible that the government even thinks it is legitimate to pay with taxes for private polling to be made available to only one side in the referendum campaign. It does make you wonder, what else do they think it is OK to pay for? My strong expectation is that the poll of which news has been leaked is only the latest in a series; polling statistics are the basis of PR strategies such as the one Acanchi has been developing for the No campaign.

I cannot leave the subject of Acanchi without referring to this report that:

According to the Israeli daily Haaretz, in October 2008, it was the turn of British firm Acanchi, hired by the foreign minister “to craft the new image” (“Foreign Ministry, PR firm rebrand Israel as land of achievements,” 6 October 2008). The firm’s founder toured Israel as part of the mission “to create a brand disconnected from the Arab-Israeli conflict that focuses instead on Israel’s scientific and cultural achievements.”

I have deep contempt for Fiona Gilmore. To try to create a “brand image” for Israel that leaves out the Palestinians, is the moral equivalent of creating a “brand image” for the Nazis that leaves out the concentration camps. Anyone who can tour Israel as the guest of the Israeli foreign office to that end, is not somebody I would wish to associate with. She is however the ideal partner for Malcolm Offord, the Vote No Borders financier – and major contributor to the Tory Party and to Michael Gove personally – who argues that Britain needs much more drastic cuts to welfare benefits. There must be something about food banks that gladdens the Tory heart. The prospect of not having any in Scotland evidently terrifies them.

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  1. Great work Craig!

  2. It’s a shame that this person, with her 3 A Levels and Classics degree, had to go on and work as an office junior after graduation. If Acanchi got this person to write the tripe about being “staunchly Scottish”, shame on them for making a fool of the intern and the people used in the photos. If I were a prospective client of Acanchi, I’d be worried that my campaign was being carried out by office juniors which seems to be the case with the Nob Orders. The Government should be demanding our money back from Acanchi on behalf of the taxpayers – we’ve been cheated!

  3. Donald MacDonald

    16 May, 2014 - 12:07 pm

    There’s a scandal in here, waiting for the light to hit it.

  4. patronsaintofcats

    16 May, 2014 - 12:09 pm

    Devastating deconstruction as usual Craig. Glad you’re on our side :-)

  5. Mary For Truth and Justice

    16 May, 2014 - 12:10 pm

    Good work and great research Craig!

  6. Fantastic summary of the astroturfing Craig.

    What’s the best way to get this info to everyone, and can the BBC be pressured into issuing a retraction of their puff piece by Essler and others ?

  7. Mary For Truth and Justice

    16 May, 2014 - 12:22 pm

    Gary Waple Bank of England.

    Rosalind Gilmore
    http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/pra/Pages/about/gilmore.aspx

    Very ‘establishment’ http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/people/person.asp?personId=2091042&ticker=ZURN:VX

    Still wonder whether she and Fiona are related (mother and daughter?) or is Fiona married to a Gilmore??

    Has this been posted before?

    Weekly Wanker #029: Fiona Gilmore
    May 3, 2014
    http://athousandflowers.net/2014/05/03/weekly-wanker-029-fiona-gilmore/

    Also http://athousandflowers.net/2014/05/02/weekly-wanker-028-malcolm-offord/

  8. Mary,

    Hadn’t seen those last two before – brilliant!!

    Craig

  9. The disappearing cv page was a bit like the disappearing notification that there was a US grand jury indictment against Wikileaks and Julian Assange which was quickly removed, as posted yesterday by Arbed.

    https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/467042011431071744

    These people have no shame and are forever having to cover up because of devious dealings.

    But with the UK government the thing that gets me most is how it is paying (who’s paying) for a Vote No Borders campaign for Scotland when its own border controls are so discriminatory. What good words can anybody find for these clients?

  10. Ba'al Zevul (Demoniser)

    16 May, 2014 - 1:19 pm

    BINGO!

    Some professional digging there, Craig. Hats off.

  11. John,

    Though I should love to believe it, I couldn’t see a screenshot anywhere of the “momentarily posted” material. It’s not really a story if there’s no evidence.

  12. Ba'al Zevul (Demoniser)

    16 May, 2014 - 1:46 pm

    Aside – the offspring of Acanchi’s 2008/9 work:

    http://forward.com/articles/2070/israel-aims-to-improve-its-public-image/

    Message: Israel’s really creative. And there are NO long nosed pachyderms in ANY rooms.

  13. Seems these No Borders and Better Together campaigns are little more than piss poor efforts at the old Colour Revolution trick.

    Victoria Nuland and the gang would have run a much more sophisticated campaign of course, and they had to buy their media in advance.

    Great discussion here of BBC bias on the issue, using Prof Robertson’s work on the matter, with vids of squirming, bullshitting BBC execs:

    http://www.medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/2014/759-scotlandshire-bbc-scotland-coverage-of-the-independence-referendum.html

    “We asked Prof. Robertson whether he had any final remarks about what the whole episode had revealed about his primary research interest: namely, thought control in democracies:

    ‘As a long-term adopter of the Propaganda Model’s usefulness in other contexts, I’ve been naive about its usefulness in Scotland; no longer. It now looks a classic case of thought control enabled by self-censorship within elites and amongst those less powerful that they manage.’ “

  14. Mary For Truth and Justice

    16 May, 2014 - 2:08 pm

    An aside. I like the Thousand Flowers website. Nicely savage which suits my current mood.

    Excuse the language but this made me laugh. I stood outside my house yesterday waiting for a friend to pick me up. Nearly every car going towards the town was one of these very large 4 wheel drive Chelsea tractors with a solitary woman at the wheel, some just able to see over it. One or two were even using mobiles illegally.

    https://athousandflowersblog.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/ukimok1.png

    Thought we could send one to Malcolm Offord but perhaps he is not so flush since departing from Charterhouse Capital.

    http://www.efinancialnews.com/story/2014-02-04/charterhouse-geoffrey-arbuthnott-court-case-london?ea9c8a2de0ee111045601ab04d673622

    Charterhouse with Permira and CVC (Acromas) are involved in the share flotation for Saga. Given a bit of a thumbs down in the Torygraph.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/markets/questor/10828284/Five-reasons-not-to-buy-Saga-shares.html

  15. Watched the video re Julian Assange. I was appalled by the conduct of the woman participant.She appeared to be a plant .’to run interference’ on you ,Craig. You were interrupted and talked over when you tried to get your point across.
    Those who are aware of the false messages by the TPTB regarding , Libya, Syria, and recently Ukraine, know only too well that any truthteller/whistleblower is demonised ,villified and discredited to obfuscate the truth.
    These are all well known propaganda tools as developed by one Edward Louis Bernays and in the arsenal of the Establishment security services.
    Truly the BBC is suborned by the Dark forces of the security state.
    I am surprised you were invited on the programme. They would have known you would not toe the Establishment line.

  16. Photos of a couple of unbranded “Home Rule For England” posters up in Westminster today:

    https://cdn.mediacru.sh/hpWniI6-eluH.jpg
    https://cdn.mediacru.sh/kwdQ0-LfdxH0.jpg

  17. Ba'al Zevul (demoniser)

    16 May, 2014 - 3:33 pm

    What’s country branding, then? Let a country brander explain, with meaningless charts based on empirical assumptions and in an impentrable dialect of bollocks. But there is some meaning here, too.

    http://bavconsulting.com/brand-israel-its-evolving-impacts-on-the-countrys-political-credibility/

    We suspect that Israel’s increased respect among Americans has evolved in parallel with the shift of Israel’s own focus from the Palestinians – who do not threaten Americans in any significant way – to the Iranians, whose nuclear course threatens Israel most directly, but also poses a major threat to Iran’s long-proclaimed enemy, the U.S. (This shift from the Palestinians to Iran in US-Israel discussions has been reported in a number of places, including Fox News and NBC News.) In other words, Americans pay much more attention when Israel gives its views about the Iranians than about the Palestinians.

    Out with morality, justice and principle! In with Branding ™ ! Just add Branding ™ to your apartheid state and stand by to collect an annual mountain of cash! Just don’t mention the P(censored).

  18. Ba'al Zevul (demoniser)

    16 May, 2014 - 3:39 pm

    Minitrue issues new promise to proles –

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2629878/Vote-No-Scotland-power-PMs-pledge-heads-north-campaign-trail.html

    And, in a shift from negative warnings to Scots about the perils of breaking away from the UK, Mr Cameron vowed that a No vote in the September 18 referendum will ensure more powers for the Holyrood parliament…

    Than…? LOL.

  19. One assumes that the E.U. are a little bit more professional about it.

  20. Craig

    Me neither concerning a screendump only one of an explanation that something had been wrongly posted. And if we asked, or somebody in the US asked, under a freedom of information request it’s unlikely they would make it public. So as you say. No evidence. Pity.

  21. Mary For Truth and Justice

    16 May, 2014 - 4:34 pm

    Those posters that Phil linked probably belong to the English Democrats Party. I saw their party political broadcast the other night. Horrible racist stuff.

    http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/

  22. Mary For Truth and Justice

    16 May, 2014 - 5:46 pm

    Narendra Modi will not be bringing peace and harmony to India judging from this, by setting Hindus against Muslims.

    India Deserves Better Than Modi: ‘The Economist’
    http://blog.outlookindia.com/default.aspx?ddm=10&pid=3223

    He and BLiar have used the same American image enhancers APCO.

    ‘Beating the War Drum
    Doing public relations for dictatorships is perhaps the more charitable part of Apco’s activities. Apco has a battalion of pro-war lobbyists under its wing. The firm is also a strong advocate of expanding armaments and the US military role in world affairs. In October 2004, Apco and Kissinger Associates (owned by Henry Kissinger) formed a strategic alliance. Beside Kissinger Associates, Apco also built a broad network or coalition of conservative pro-Zionist lobbyists and consultancy groups including Heritage Foundation, Frontier of Freedom, Jewish Policy Center, etc. In the name of war against terror, Apco helped to coordinate government communications to convince the public of the necessity of war. Its job also included manufacturing public opinion and feedback in supporting the war efforts. Basically it exploited Islam-phobia in Western society to sell aggression as the solution to regain security in the West.

    In addition to supporting George Bush, Apco also defended British Prime Minister Tony Blair’s unpopular move to enter the Iraq war. Apco had assisted Tony Blair to consolidate the war alliance. Together with the London-based Foreign Policy Institute, Apco prepared and published the pamphlet, ‘A Global Alliance for Global Values’ in which Blair declared:
    “We must commit ourselves to a complete renaissance of our strategy to defeat those that threaten us.”

    After the invasion of Iraq, Apco swiftly positioned itself to help American companies plunder Iraqi wealth and resources. In May 2003, Apco Worldwide launched a task force headed by Marc Ginsberg, the former US ambassador to Morocco, to help U.S. clients secure contracts for Iraq’s rebuilding.

    Apco is described as a lobby firm that “specialises in helping corporations advance their goals by manipulating legislators, and drafting and advancing model legislation and regulations. Key tools include the creation of business coalitions and fake, corporate-funded ‘grassroots’ groups tailored to specific issues.”

    Recently there was a report published on the importance of finding a legal basis for an attack on Iran. Interestingly the authors, Jeffrey H. Smith and John B. Bellinger III, lawyers at Arnold & Porter, supplied such a basis.’

    ~~~
    ‘MODI Makeover

    Adolf Hitler was a brilliant propagandist. Narendra Modi too believes in the power of image. This is probably why the chief minister hired a US lobbying firm which has serviced clients like former Nigerian dictator Sani Abacha and President-for-life of Kazakhstan Nursultan Abishuly Nazarbayev.

    This Washington-based firm, Apco Worldwide, was hired by Modi sometime in August 2007, in the run-up to an important Assembly election, to improve his image before the world community. Among its recent clients are Mikhail Khodorkovsky, a former Communist youth leader-turned-Russian billionaire with mafia links.

    The firm has a distinction of taking contracts of boosting images of leaders who fell out of favour of their followers.On the face of it Apco Worldwide’s brief is to build and sell Brand Gujarat to the international community. APCO, through its 32 offices across the globe, has been promoting Gujarat as a great investment destination. APCO has also been managing Modi’s own behaviour and projection, for which the cost has been over $25,000 per month since 2007.

    “Although TIME’s cover story is not an endorsement, it contains inaccuracies, half-truths and glaring omission of pertinent details on Mr. Modi’s tenure as Chief Minister. These betray its real objective – an attempt by APCO Worldwide, Modi’s PR firm in Washington DC – to combat negative coverage of their client’s documented connivance in gross human rights violations, in order to project him as a Prime Ministerial candidate,” said Mr. Shaheen Khateeb, President of IAMC.

    “Mr. Narendra Modi as the potential Prime Minister of India is a diplomatic and moral conundrum for the United States and other countries of common human values,” added Mr. Khateeb.’

    ~~~~

    Mechanics of Narendra Modi’s PR agency : APCO Worldwide – Orchestrating our Future
    http://greatgameindia.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/mechanics-of-narendra-modis-pr-agency.html

  23. Having long given up on this representative elections codswollop I had not even heard of the English Democrats. They think the BNP too inclusive. How do they get on TV? Anyway, here’s a quick fun quiz for voting enthusiasts.

    Quiz Question

    Which party had the following policies in 1997?

    -No nuclear weapons
    -Free prescriptions
    -Retirement at 55
    -Vote at 16
    -A minimum wage fixed at 100% of MPs’ salaries
    -20 hour working week
    -Release innocent prisoners

    Quiz Answer
    Found here.

    Quiz Lesson
    Loonies, better than Labour.

  24. The sad thing is, most ‘ordinary’ Scots folk will not realise how their thinking is being manipulated by the media. I really fear for a Scotland that votes No. Anger can turn very nasty.

  25. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    16 May, 2014 - 7:53 pm

    “Narendra Modi will not be bringing peace and harmony to India judging from this, by setting Hindus against Muslims.”
    __________________

    Yes, and just fancy – it’s one of the much-admired (on this blog, at least)BRICs!!

    If Mary’s prediction is correct, then India looks set to join two of the other three BRICs (Russia and China) as havens of tolerance and justice.

    I’m glad I live in the Evil West and not the Wonderful BRICs :)

  26. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    16 May, 2014 - 8:02 pm

    “The sad thing is, most ‘ordinary’ Scots folk will not realise how their thinking is being manipulated by the media. I really fear for a Scotland that votes No. Anger can turn very nasty.”
    __________________

    And there we have – not for the first time on the blog – the get-out clause.

    IF the Scots vote Yes, then it will be because a proud people has acted rationally by choosing to take itds future into its own hands.

    IF, on the other hand, the Scots vote No, then it will have been because their “thinking was manipulated by the media” (a somewhat patronising verdict by Juteman et al, but never mind).

    But a get-out clause with an original and revealing little twist – the hint of violence(“Anger can turn very nasty”). Very democratic, indeed.

  27. I recall a Nat Scot on here some time ago posting a message to Craig saying something along the lines of “We love what you do, Craig, but stop fucking pretending to be Scottish”.

    Regarding all the Bannockburn bollocks and the apparent obsession with having to be Scottish and living in Scotland to be allowed an opinion on independence (Craig was born and lives in Norfolk), I don’t think it’s ever been put better.

  28. Mary For Truth and Justice

    16 May, 2014 - 9:21 pm

    The Westminster establishment are doing all they can to put spokes into the wheel.

    ‘The proposed date of Scottish independence should be delayed if it is not in the best interests of the rest of the UK, a House of Lords report has said.

    The recommendation was made by peers on the constitution committee.

    They also said MPs for Scottish seats should not be allowed to negotiate for the rest of the UK on the terms of independence.

    The SNP said the House of Lords was an “undemocratic anachronism”.

    The Scottish government has proposed 24 March 2016 as a realistic date for Scotland’s independence day, which would allow about 18 months for negotiations to be concluded if there is a “Yes” vote in the referendum on 18 September.

    “The prime minister should feel under no obligation to conclude negotiations by March 2016”
    Baroness Jay of Paddington

    Under that timetable, elections scheduled for 5 May 2016 would be the first to an independent Scottish parliament.

    But Labour peer Baroness Jay of Paddington, who chairs the constitution committee, urged the UK government to “put the rest of the UK’s interest first” in the event of independence negotiations.’

    /..

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-27424993

    The Constitution Committee
    Lord Goodlad (Chairman)
    Lord Hart of Chilton
    Lord Irvine of Lairg
    Baroness Jay of Paddington
    Lord Lyell of Markyate
    Lord Norton of Louth
    Lord Pannick
    Baroness Quin
    Lord Rodgers of Quarry Bank
    Lord Shaw of Northstead
    Lord Wallace of Tankerness
    Lord Woolf

    Register of Interests alphabetically
    http://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and-offices/standards-and-interests/register-of-lords-interests/

  29. This whole episode and it’s main players are like a sub plot from tinker, taylor, soldier, spy. The mysterious financing, the time line, the BBCs involvement and of course the main “operators” Offord, Gilmore, Wapole and Esler, if they don’t work for the SIS in one of its many guises then I assume they all have a zero hours contract with it.

    The whole VNB operation stinks to the high heaven, and the establishments finger prints are all over it. This rUK is putrid and I don’t want anything to do with it.

  30. “The sad thing is, most ‘ordinary’ Scots folk will not realise how their thinking is being manipulated by the media. I really fear for a Scotland that votes No. Anger can turn very nasty.”

    Yes, because Juteman knows things so much better than “most ‘ordinary’ Scots”, and if only they could see the truth as he does then they could avoid the anger and nastiness that will follow their decision.

  31. I think they’ve lost the race to claim the name and be known as residual-UK, with most of central, southern and eastern-Ukraine surely having a better case to be be known as residual-UK and the west’s tiny western fascist part being annexed whoever wants it, and I hope remaining forever nameless. I had long thought the residual-UK should really exclude that nauseatingly smug enclave of loot and unfathomable wickedness, that south-east corner that sucks vampire-like the lifeblood and wealth fom the whole country, that London, leaving them to themselves, a pariah city state, had even suggested the name Autonomous Region South East would suit it perfectly. I’ll give country branding and presentation advice for them too, for a national anthem I suggest Mendelsson’s Funeral March and for a flag the skull and crossbones, over an image of DU mutated and mutilated babies.

  32. Great work indeed Craig… Brilliant post..thanks. calls for some dirty dealing investigation surely.

    Mary love the Thousand Flowers website What a hoot…

    came across that Offord and Gimore weekly wanker Piece a couple of weeks ago…whilst delving into Offord…

    Love the way they tell it…Cheers for reminding me.

  33. Superb post Craig.

    As someone earlier said:there is indeed a huge scandal here just waiting to be exposed.

    Habbabkuk?…Can you just bugger off you eejit sockpuppet hmmm?

    Thanks.

  34. Mary For Truth and Justice

    17 May, 2014 - 8:00 am

    I see that fascism has spread across the Irish Sea.

    ‘He doesn’t know where the hell I was born’: Woman in Kenny protest video speaks out

    When Dette McLoughlin questioned the Taoiseach about water charges, he asked her where she was from. McLoughlin claims a garda approached her after the incident, looking for her details.
    http://www.thejournal.ie/enda-kenny-galway-accent-2-1465992-May2014/

    Free speech? Where did that go?

  35. Trust things do not go this far.

    Stirling Castle knight revealed as English nobleman
    Reconstructed image of knight’s face
    The skeleton of the knight was discovered during refurbishment work

    A skeleton discovered at Stirling Castle may have been an English knight who died in the 14th Century.

    Sir John de Stricheley died in 1341, when the English held the castle.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10138060

    and

    Stirling Castle skeletons date from independence wars
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-27443889

    ‘Nine skeletons were found at Stirling Castle by a team of archaeologists in 1997.

    Skeletons uncovered at Stirling Castle reveal the individuals were likely to have died during sieges of the castle during the Scottish wars of independence, experts believe.

    Nine skeletons were found at the castle in 1997, inspiring a number of studies and theories about their origins.

    Dr Jo Buckberry, a Bradford University battle trauma expert, believes they date from 1296 to 1357.

    A talk is to be held at the castle to discuss her findings.’

  36. Impressive research. I hope you can now get the information out to the Scottish voters. That is the expensive step. Also, if that information did get out, would it influence the vote count? I have been involved in a number of campaigns here in California where we dug up similar false grass roots campaigns (called ‘astro turf’ campaigns) and the information didn’t make much difference. The costs of getting the information to the voters was just too expensive. Our campaign managers said it was hard enough to just put out their own message without having to explain to the voters the sources of where all of the negative hits were coming from. I would think that your yes on Scottish independence would face the same dilemma.

  37. I see that the Murdoch discard/currently BBC stooge Andrew Neil was enrolled for the No campaign. Sept 2013
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oFiR0vUYIU

    Also Stephanie Flanders on the same date.

    She was then the BBC’s Economics Editor but is now ‘J.P. Morgan Asset Management’s chief market strategist for the UK and Europe’ LOL YCNMIU. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqGGriEJac8

    Captioned as ‘Highlights from a BBC conference on 3 April 2012.’ or ‘The State Broadcaster speaks for the State’.

  38. Chris Darroch

    17 May, 2014 - 10:06 am

    Well done on this piece. Good work. Thank you for your efforts

  39. Cameron goes to Scotland but is too afraid to meet ordinary Scots so he visits an army barracks instead.

    http://www.itv.com/news/2014-05-15/why-the-scottish-referendum-is-problematic-for-cameron/

    Cameron appears to be worried more about his image than the views of the Scottish electorate, not wanting to go down in history as the Prime Minister who broke up the Union. Bloody Tories!

  40. “I’m glad I live in the Evil West and not the Wonderful BRICs”

    Yes, but have you no consideration for the rest of our feelings my dear? :)

  41. Better Together has published its Donor List (don’t know when). Unfortunately the all-important link to donors comes up with an error, at least on my computer. I wonder if Buckingham’s name is among the big donors?

    http://www.bettertogether.net/press/entry/better-together-publishes-donor-details

  42. General Assembly of Church of Scotland begins

    Later in the week there will be further discussion over the ordination of gay ministers, and what is likely to be a high-profile debate on Scottish independence.

    The Church of Scotland has taken a neutral position on the issue, but its members said it was important to reflect on issues dominating public life.’
    /..

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-27443865

    Incidentally they have operations within the entity of Israel.

    The consolidated financial statements also incorporate the financial results of three subsidiary undertakings, St Andrew’s Galilee Limited,(hotel) St Andrew’s Scottish Centre Limited, (guest house) companies incorporated in Israel, and Tabeetha School in Israel registered as a non-profit organisation.
    p 41 http://www.churchofscotland.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0019/14419/unincorporated_report_and_accounts.pdf

    They have accounts with two Israel banks and employ Price Waterhouse in Jerusalem as auditors.

    Have we heard what the Church of Scotland thinks about the Occupation or are they Christian Zionists? I don’t know.

  43. The company and directors is here John. Darling included.

    http://companycheck.co.uk/company/SC425421/BETTER-TOGETHER-2012-LIMITED/company-summary

  44. Yes, thanks Mary, interesting on its own, but it is the big donors that I am more interested in.

  45. Oh! the oversight. ‘VoteNoBorders’ was created with NationBuilder – another oxymoron – Reach for sickbag before you view!

    http://nationbuilder.com/

    Solid scrutiny Craig and well pursued Mary. :)

  46. Some of the donors are here.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/top-10-donors-to-better-together.20723893

    Two donors from this fund management company.

    http://www.artemis.co.uk/

  47. Yes John. I realised that you wanted the donors. Quite laughable that they make a big thing of publishing details of their donors and all you can get are the totals.

    Anyway. The best reason to vote Yes is this exhortation from war criminals’ assistant John Reid to vote No.

    14 May 2014

    A vote to stay in the UK is the patriotic Scottish choice
    Former Home Secretary, and former Secretary of State for Scotland and Defence, John Reid, highlights the reasons that voting to stay in the UK and have the best of both worlds is the patriotic Scottish choice.
    http://www.bettertogether.net/blog/entry/a-vote-to-stay-in-the-uk-is-the-patriotic-scottish-choice

  48. They are determined to keep the status quo John. No disturbance to their money making is needed.

    The ultimate owner of Artemis is this American outfit, together with the actual Artemis partners who are donors to Better Together.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affiliated_Managers_Group

    I saw the name of Flint chairman of HSBC in that list of ‘top’ donors. The other day I saw Lord Janvrin’s name as chair of HSBC Private Bank Ltd. He was private secretary to Her Maj of course. Keeping it all in the family.
    http://www.parliament.uk/biographies/lords/lord-janvrin/3838

  49. I’m sure you’re right Mary about the bankers. They have a lot to lose from a socially equatable society.

    For us in England it will be a good thing because we can say well they’re doing it in Scotland. All Westminster has done recently is cap local authorities and bank the money, or rather use the money for bonuses in banks the taxpayer bails out for bad practice. Birmingham City Council has stopped collecting green waste unless people pay extra. My local Tory candidate has said he’ll fight to reinstate this service. Yet it’s his central government that has capped councils and made the cuts in services necessary. He does not say what he intends to cut to make the savings to pay for reinstatement of green collections. Likewise Scotland, so far from Westminster, has lacked proper investment and has only been seen as a poor brother, until recently. We have to get the money back. If that means robbing the bankers so be it. They’ve robbed us for long enough.

  50. Thanks Mary again. Artemis, being an American outlet, is coming close to contravening the Better Together policy of not having donations from overseas investors. How would anybody know where this wheeler-dealering money comes from?

  51. Off topic but please sign and share this about a young Sudanese woman who is due to be hanged accused of apostasy for being a Christian. Some countries are so barbaric. Not the US this time.

    http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/278/113/666/?z00m=21103429&redirectID=1355134532

  52. I was passing Central Station in Glasgow last night and noticed a short ‘VNB’ video on that giant display screen where the Irn-Bru clock used to be. That doesn’t come cheap…

  53. Fantastic work. This is what the newspaper trade should be doing.
    Watch the mainstream media leap on this seminal story….not.

  54. John Goss

    “Off topic but please sign and share this about a young Sudanese woman who is due to be hanged accused of apostasy for being a Christian. Some countries are so barbaric. Not the US this time.”

    Sorry, John, but I can’t sign that. Muslims are the victims and the US the aggressor. Please get back on track.

  55. PROJECT TRUST – The knowledge.

    The Case for Voting ‘YES’ to an independent Scotland.

    The Union sound bite “Best of both worlds” is propaganda – there are no benefits from two seemingly opposed alternatives.

    The Union sound bite ‘We have devolution’ is misleading – ‘devolution’ = perversion. Further devolution is the dangling carrot gone rotten; five Billion pounds of ‘economic hitman’ debt and an unknown new rate of income tax for Scotland.

    The case for Union is weak, portraying the UK as ‘strong and proud’ is an enigma. Britain’s ‘strength’ has seeped to the East and our pride is in need of repair.

    Britain’s so called defense is warfare, weapons and murder.

    Our ‘generous’ welfare system has produced food-banks, poverty, pain and suicide.

    Our ‘oil and gas’ prize is depleted to the point we must destroy our land with explosive hydraulic fracturing to ‘wring out’ our soil and rocks for short term gain, polluting future generations.

    The EU rebate that purports £135/year to British households is contentious and will be cut.

    Britain’s economy has not recovered from the 2008 crash:

    Since 2007 the UK has committed to spending £1.162 trillion at various points on bailing out the banks. This figure has however fluctuated wildly during the period and by March 2011 it was £456.33bn. That total outstanding support was equivalent to 31% of GDP in March. At near zero interest the ‘pay-back’ on our investment is lost in the fog:

    “If the support measures had not been put in place, the scale of the economic and social costs if one or more major UK banks had collapsed would be so large as to be difficult to envision. The support provided to the banks was therefore justified, but the final cost to the taxpayer of the support would not be known for a number of years.” – National Audit Office – Dec 2013

    Leaving Scotland’s currency until last is my reply to the ‘fear campaign’ that England’s monetary policy vis. currency union will strike at the heart of every family in Scotland. It will not.

    The independent Fiscal Commission concluded: “retaining Sterling would be a sensible currency choice that would be attractive both to Scotland and the UK”.

    Scotland holds the best cards in any macroeconomic monetary agreement. Osborne, his rhetoric and scaremongering is just jingoistic threatening without substance.

    Case closed.

  56. Resident Dissident

    17 May, 2014 - 3:37 pm

    “Sorry, John, but I can’t sign that. Muslims are the victims and the US the aggressor.”

    And poor Meriam Yehya Ibrahim Ishag is just a dispensible pawn you want to play in your stupid game. Truly pathetic response – are you capable of thinking for yourself?

  57. Resident Dissident

    17 May, 2014 - 3:40 pm

    More shooting the messenger from Craig I’m afraid. I’m sure there are plenty of unsavoury characters who support the Yes campaign as well.

  58. doug scorgie

    17 May, 2014 - 4:37 pm

    Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !
    16 May, 2014 – 7:53 pm

    “I’m glad I live in the Evil West and not the Wonderful BRICs”

    I’m sure the BRIC countries are glad of that as well Habbabkuk

  59. doug scorgie

    17 May, 2014 - 5:07 pm

    Mary For Truth and Justice
    16 May, 2014 – 9:21 pm

    “The Westminster establishment are doing all they can to put spokes into the wheel.”

    “The proposed date of Scottish independence should be delayed if it is not in the best interests of the rest of the UK, a House of Lords report has said.”

    Yes Mary, the “establishment” will do all they can to prevent a yes vote but if that fails they will do anything they can to prevent independence.

    They could use “national security” as a pretext:

    “Scottish independence threat to national security, says Theresa May”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10411559/Scottish-independence-threat-to-national-security-says-Theresa-May.html

    Philip Hammond Says Those Demanding Scottish Independence Are ‘Deluded’ And ‘Threatening National Security’

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/03/15/philip-hammond-scottish-independence_n_4970556.html

    The UK is a unitary state; Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland have a degree of autonomous devolved power. But such devolved power is delegated by the Parliament of the United Kingdom which may enact laws unilaterally altering or abolishing devolution.

    So in the interests of “national security” it might not be allowed.

  60. Ólafur Ragnar Grímsson, President of Iceland, explains why independence is so important:

    How Iceland defeated the Anglo-American Bankster Mafia

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zlzC_XMQzI

    DSK at the IMF allowed Iceland to bust its banks. He was also reported as agreeing that Ireland follow a similar plan. Unfortunately they didn’t.

    DSK was subsequently ousted in a very public fit up.

    Iceland escaped the bankers clutches. The rest of us must suffer austerity to make up their gambling losses.

  61. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    17 May, 2014 - 5:44 pm

    Doug Scorgie

    “Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !
    16 May, 2014 – 7:53 pm

    “I’m glad I live in the Evil West and not the Wonderful BRICs”

    I’m sure the BRIC countries are glad of that as well Habbabkuk”
    _______________________

    Are you glad you live in the West rather than in one of the BRICs, Doug?

  62. doug scorgie

    17 May, 2014 - 6:03 pm

    Off topic
    Re kidnapped girls in Nigeria:

    I read an article in the Guardian online edition about an hour ago that had a quote I think from Nigeria’s Goodluck Jonathan.

    I paraphrase: “It’s all-out war against Boko Harem”

    I thought this kind of talk would put the kidnapped girls in danger and it sounded like a military operation was being planned instead of negotiating the girl’s release.

    I just returned to the article and those words are gone and the whole piece seems to have been re-written.

    Can anyone find the original article?

  63. Channel 4 News opened with the line that there will be ‘total war’ on Boko Haram now seen as Alki Ada.

    http://www.channel4.com/news/nigeria-boko-haram-total-war-paris-summit-al-qaeda

  64. Peacekeeper 17 May, 2014 – 2:02 pm

    Can’t agree with you on this. I support Muslims when they are being persecuted. It is just as important for me to support Christians when they are being persecuted. Even if it was apostasy, which she denies anyway, what is wrong with somebody changing their religion? If somebody converted to Islam would that be a crime punishable by hanging? Anyway two wrongs do not make a right.

    I recall reading about Dr Samuel Johnson, who I think was a pompous twat, refusing to have anything to do with a young woman who had heard the Quaker preacher and abolitionist, Mary Knowles, preach. Her name was Jenny Harry, apparently very beautiful and the daughter of a mulatto woman and a very wealthy planter called Hibbert. Mary Knowles was a long-time acquaintance of Johnson going back to their Staffordshire days. Jenny’s father allegedly disinherited her and Johnson condemned her for apostasy and Criticised Mary Knowles for proselytising. Johnson condemned Jenny (Jane) Harry for apostasy but did not condemn her to death, though she did die young. Apostasy and proselytising are words that should be removed from all languages.

    So again I urge you to sign.

  65. I should have mentioned, though I guess it’s obvious, that Jenny Harry converted from one Christian sect, Anglican, to another, Quakerism. In this respect 18th century England was more enlightened than 21st century Sudan.

  66. Any execution for whatever reason is an outrage and an offence to mankind. Have signed John.

    Her crime. She married a Christian. She is pregnant too.

    No imminent execution for Christian in Sudan, despite death sentence
    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/16/world/africa/sudan-christian-woman-whats-next/

  67. Thoughts on India?

  68. I think it’s pretty obvious that the BBC were not duped by this lot but were complicit in the attempted creation of the myth. Can pay won’t pay.

  69. Sofia Kibo Noh

    17 May, 2014 - 10:19 pm

    Craig. Brilliant deconstruction!

    These “Turd Polishers” (thanks Mary) don’t see the irony of re-branding the separation wall builders then running a phoney grass-roots “No Borders” campaign.

    Some rare footage here of two ordinary every-day Scots haggis farmers, the Mac Anchi-Gilmore sisters at the border.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glUm-cHeekc

  70. Brilliant discussion of the genocide in Rwanda.

    Another day. Another neo colonial op.

    Same old. Same old.

    http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-886-keith-harmon-snow-reveals-the-truth-about-the-rwandan-genocide/

  71. Is this VNB not fraudulent and is there nothing we can do?

  72. Good point Doug
    17 May, 2014 – 5:07 pm

    Mrs May plainly took advice from Rory Stewart (Torturers ’R’ Us) MP chairman of Westminster’s Defense Select Committee after Craig demolished her racist threat to close the border.

    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/03/theresa-mays-threats/

  73. Graham Purnell

    18 May, 2014 - 2:23 am

    What’s happened to investigative journalism? If one of the TV newsrooms had been duped or colluded with unscrupulous campaigns like this in the past, it would have been big news and the other channels would have pounced on it, even if only to churlishly embarrass their competitors. Now… silence.

    Thank goodness for citizen journalists, bloggers and Facebook.

  74. O/T

    Isn’t it nice to hear that in a country where we are ‘all in together’ that the rich have got richer including Her Maj? Now how do they do that? Could we be told so that we could follow suit with our pittances.

    Rich double their wealth in five years
    James Gillespie
    Top 1,000 worth record £519bn
    18 May 2014
    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/article1412257.ece Paywall naturally!

    It was also nice to hear the charming Canadian at the BoE giving comfort to the developers/housebuilders/Tory donors in their quest to concrete over our Green Belt land.

  75. On topic from the same organ

    Keep it to yourself, but Scotland’s shy ‘no’ voters will win the day
    Dominic Lawson
    18 May 2014

    David Cameron and George Osborne are, not for the first time, performing their “good cop, bad cop” routine. This is hardly unusual, given their respective day jobs. Prime ministers prefer to cast a roseate glow over the public mood; chancellors are meant to be more severe. In this case, however, the performance is specifically directed at the Scottish people.

    Although it seems to have been going on for months, the independence referendum campaign proper is only now about to begin. So last week Good Cop Cameron travelled north of what is actually not a border to declare: “We want Scotland to stay. We are all enriched by being together. Scotland puts the great into Great Britain.”

    ~~~~

    Then the piece fades into something about Bad Cop Osborne and RBS banknotes in the event of a Yes vote. It’s enough to scare the sporran off one’s person.

    The rest is behind the same paywall.
    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/comment/columns/dominiclawson/article1411850.ece

  76. “Thank goodness for citizen journalists, bloggers and Facebook.”

    Well said Graham Purnell. The root cause was 9/11 and the so-called “war on terror” which was generated by the Bush dynasty to replace the old enemy “The Soviet Union”. Governments create mythological enemies to distract from domestic problems. If something goes wrong at home the news becomes focused overseas on the imaginary enemy. But the “war on terror” is treated like a real war. People are being wrongfully and terminally imprisoned due to two diabolical anti-terrorism acts for which there is no terrorism. And because it is being portrayed as a war wartime measures, the first victim of which is the truth, are in place. Nearly as many media staff were killed in the first year of the Iraq war. Journalists in the Ukraine are being targeted all to stop the truth getting out. In fact where did you see that journalists were being shot at on MSM? Speaks for itself.

  77. Nicola Sturgeon is coming on the Marr programme later. Cleggover too. BBC1.

    Ann Treneman and John Simpson, the BBC’s saviour of the Western world, review the papers.

  78. John – I heard on Stourton’s Sunday on BBC Radio 4 earlier that there is a video running in a loop at the newly opened Ground Zero Museum that portrays Muslims in a bad light (linking to Alki Ada) and that it is causing great upset to the Muslim community in America. Disgraceful.

    ‘As the National September 11 Memorial Museum opened this week Edward talks to Matt Wells about the row over a museum film some say unfairly links Islam and terrorism.’

    Homophobia in Church Schools; Pope in the Holy Land; Baha’i Cemetery Bulldozed
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b043wk06 16mins 15secs in

  79. This young MSP was on QT last Thursday.

    http://www.humzayousaf.org/

    Recommended on Medialens.

    ‘This young Scottish MSP fella kicked establishment arses on BBC QT on Thursday night

    P Ashdown and Esther McVey looked so artificial and full of shite against him, as well as ‘zany’ Torygraph fella and Blairite lady. He was really good, and on his own.

    The BBC link here:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b006t1q9

    It is also replayed on the Parliament channel CH 81 tonight at 6pm.

  80. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    18 May, 2014 - 10:18 am

    Mary reports

    “John – I heard on Stourton’s Sunday on BBC Radio 4 earlier that there is a video running in a loop at the newly opened Ground Zero Museum that portrays Muslims in a bad light (linking to Alki Ada) and that it is causing great upset to the Muslim community in America. Disgraceful.

    ‘As the National September 11 Memorial Museum opened this week Edward talks to Matt Wells about the row over a museum film some say unfairly links Islam and terrorism.’”
    ____________________

    Can Mary – or anyone else – supply a link to that video, please?

    I should like to see it and make up my own mind.

    This is because Mary omits to tell us WHO on the radio programme claimed the video
    showed Muslims in a bad light, thereby causing offence, and in the quotation given by Mary I see the words “some say”, which could mean a lot or nothing at all.

    Thanks in advance!

  81. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !
    18 May, 2014 – 10:18 am

    “Can Mary – or anyone else – supply a link to that video, please?”

    “I should like to see it and make up my own mind.”

    That’s a bit rich coming from you Habbabkuk. You don’t provide links.

    Perhaps you should do your own research, which is what you tell others who ask you for a link.

  82. “Can Mary – or anyone else – supply a link to that video, please?

    I should like to see it and make up my own mind.

    This is because Mary omits to tell us WHO on the radio programme claimed the video
    showed Muslims in a bad light, thereby causing offence, and in the quotation given by Mary I see the words “some say”, which could mean a lot or nothing at all.

    Thanks in advance!

    ———————————————————————-
    Can you, gnats pissing socket, please use your computer for the purposes you bought it, rather than making this blog look like its harbouring geriatric nimpomuks without a single grey cell to rub together.
    Just because you been brought up with servants does not mean this extends into your adult life, now use your fingers for more than just strummin’ boare.

  83. Resident Dissident

    18 May, 2014 - 11:35 am

    “Governments create mythological enemies to distract from domestic problems. If something goes wrong at home the news becomes focused overseas on the imaginary enemy.”

    Strangely enough this analysis is only ever applied to western governments by Mr Goss. Why?

  84. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    18 May, 2014 - 11:40 am

    Doug Scorgie, Nevermind

    Where one is expressing one’s own opinion, having made up one’s own mind, it’s not always necessary to provide links.

    Mary, on the other hand, was referring to something concrete – not an opinion of her own but to a video which exists (I have no reason to disbelieve her) and therefore it’s perfectly legitimate to ask for a link.

    What is your objection to someone wishing to see the video mentioned by Mary for him/herself?

    *****************

    La vita è bella, life is good!

  85. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    18 May, 2014 - 11:43 am

    Nevermind

    “Just because you been brought up with servants does not mean this extends into your adult life, now use your fingers..etc..”
    ________________

    If that’s a job application, Nevermind, then I regret to have to inform you that you would not be suitable, as I only employ people of sound mind.

  86. “Claims the anti-independence campaign is deliberately seeking to avoid debating with its rivals have been made after yet another Unionist politician refused to appear at a pre-arranged event.”

    “Last month a huge event organised in Glasgow saw Yes campaigners forced to scour the city for participants willing to argue in favour of a No vote after Better Together refused to take part. The failure to debate follows a string of events that have shown a marked move to Yes after members of the public are presented with arguments from both sides.”

    http://www.newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-news/9201-no-campaign-accused-of-pulling-speakers-from-debates

  87. Resident Dissident

    18 May, 2014 - 11:46 am

    For those who wish to understand both sides of the argument rather than having it filtered ideologically!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/24/nyregion/interfaith-panel-denounces-a-9-11-museum-exhibits-portrayal-of-islam.html?_r=0

  88. Habba: You get double time on a Sunday don’t you ? Your job keeps you busy on this blog 24 hours a day.No wonder you have this mantra Life is good. HM keeps your fridge full for sitting on your butt all day.
    Would love to see the job description.

  89. FFS Can’t trolls even read? I know they are incapable of intelligent thought but really!

    I gave the link and even the time of the piece.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b043wk06 16mins 15secs in

  90. Resident Dissident

    18 May, 2014 - 11:48 am

    “Claims the anti-independence campaign is deliberately seeking to avoid debating with its rivals have been made after yet another Unionist politician refused to appear at a pre-arranged event.”

    Strangely enough I have just heard Nicola Sturgeon on Andrew Marr refer to debates taking place throughout Scotland.

  91. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    18 May, 2014 - 12:05 pm

    Mary

    I was asking for a link to the video running at the 9/11 museum, Mary, and not the link to the BBC radio programme.

    Can you supply, please (or get your son Doug)to do it)?

    Thanks again.

  92. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    18 May, 2014 - 12:07 pm

    Mr Scorgie

    “Last month a huge event organised in Glasgow saw Yes campaigners forced to scour the city for participants willing to argue in favour of a No vote …

    __________________

    Do you think that intimidation might be playing a rôle here, Doug?

  93. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    18 May, 2014 - 12:10 pm

    DoNNyDarKo

    “Habba: You get double time on a Sunday don’t you ?”
    __________________

    No, Donny, that’s Saturday.

    Enjoy the Sachhertorte and coffee now, and have a great day.

    ***************

    La vita è bellissima, life is great!

  94. But you surely you all already know that everything political is made up on a daily sub-prime ministerial basis for presidential type briefings and pimped and pumped by compromised media to create a buzz and seeds to feed what is hoped to be thought up for tomorrow. And it is why there is such conflict and chaos on such a stage and in platforms which be so fully entertaining of the intellectually challenged and perversely corrupt, because what is presented is so pathetically poor and not good and great.

    The bigger question is what are going to do about it with Command and Control of IT and the money system and CyberSpace?

    Or have you planned and be you quite content to leave it all and IT to others who know how to handle such things virtually remotely and relatively anonymously?

    Methinks that be a really smart move and most wise in these strange new days with magic zerodays to exploit and expand upon.

  95. Res Diss : There are debates going on all through Scotland in pubs, in homes and the workplace.As I pointed out to an Englishman who seemed to think that the Scots were blindly heading toward independence with no thought to the consequences, was all wrong.Never before have the Scots and other residents been so interested in a vote as it offers real change and an alternative to a corrupt and archaic system devoid of democracy.It shows a healthy interest in the future from the people taking part.The politicians , NO campaign , or anti independence campaign avoid debate, or when they are in debate they ask the moderators for help to avoid answering simple questions.They have an unhealthy interest in keeping a status quo which offers no future,just more of the same.
    Cameron who said he would offer more power to the Scottish people couldn’t give a hint or an example of what he meant.
    Strangely enough I have heard that the Govt has secreted away the last poll.
    Why would they do that Res Diss ?? Any idea’s ?? Have you any examples where the No campaign have been in debate with the Yes campaign?

  96. Back to topic

    Scotland on Sunday front page today –

    Scottish independence: Yes vote at 8-month low
    SUPPORT for independence has fallen dramatically over the past four weeks, according to an exclusive poll that puts backing for Yes at its lowest level since September last year.
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scottish-independence-yes-vote-at-8-month-low-1-3414582

    Who owns the paper?
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_on_Sunday

    > Johnston Publishing Ltd

    > The three directors

    Ashley Highfield
    http://companycheck.co.uk/director/916440044
    Ashley Highfield holds 82 appointments at 82 active companies, has resigned from 0 companies and held 0 appointments at 0 dissolved companies. Ashley began his first appointment at the age of 43 and his longest current appointment spans 5 years and 6 months at WILLIAM HILL PLC.
    The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where Ashley holds a current appointment equals £213,977,000, with a combined assets value of £1,905,934,100 and liabilities of £2,262,716,000.

    David King
    http://companycheck.co.uk/director/917902043
    David King holds 48 appointments at 48 active companies, has resigned from 29 companies and held 2 appointments at 2 dissolved companies. David began their first appointment at the age of 39 and their longest current appointment spans 4 years and 7 months at REACH TO TEACH.
    The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where David holds a current appointment equals £39,731,188, with a combined assets value of £1,712,705,836 and liabilities of £2,019,146,570.

    An interesting list of historic directorships there too, some with BBC names, eg BBC Com, BBC Worldwide, BBC Earth Productions etc

    Neil Jones
    http://companycheck.co.uk/director/910565974
    Neil Jones holds 2 appointments at 2 active companies, has resigned from 5 companies and held 0 appointments at 0 dissolved companies. Neil began their first appointment at the age of 28 and their longest current appointment spans 2 years and 2 months at NEIL JONES MEDIA CONSULTING LTD.
    The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where Neil holds a current appointment equals £7,315,928, with a combined assets value of £1,412,976,528 and liabilities of £1,772,588,977.

  97. Sofia Kibo Noh

    18 May, 2014 - 12:41 pm

    WARNING

    Vote Yes and Beware of Flesh Eating Zombies

    http://media.cagle.com/85/2014/05/09/148247_600.jpg

  98. doug scorgie

    18 May, 2014 - 1:00 pm

    O/T

    Kelly ben Maimon
    15 May, 2014 – 11:16 am

    “To go in to school, as a school governor, I needed to be a political appointee, as I didn’t have children. This meant that I had to join the Lib Dems.”

    That is not true is it Kelly?

    “You don’t need to have children or be a parent of a child at the school to become a school governor.”

    http://www.sgoss.org.uk/volunteers/volunteer-role.html

    If you are still reading this blog please explain.

  99. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    18 May, 2014 - 1:36 pm

    Doug Scorgie

    While you’re waiting for Kelly, let me try and help you.

    “That is not true is it Kelly?

    “You don’t need to have children or be a parent of a child at the school to become a school governor.”

    http://www.sgoss.org.uk/volunteers/volunteer-role.html
    ______________________

    If you read her comment carefully, Doug, you’ll see that Kelly’s not claiming you need to have children at the school in order to become a governor there. What she is saying is that if you don’t have children at that school, you can still become a governor there but that you need to be well on with a local politician.

    Hope that helps, Doug.

    ****************

    I’ve noticed that you usually wait for a couple of days before “commenting” on someone else’s comment. Is this because you’re hoping that everyone will have forgotten what was in the original comment, thus enabling you to get away with selective quoting? That would be rather dishonest of you, wouldn’t it, Doug.

  100. Thanks Mary for the museum heads-up. Another institution stockpiling a depository of lies…

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