What Did You Expect? 693


I have no sympathy at all for anybody who voted No on the grounds of the pledges by Brown, Miliband, Cameron and Clegg about constitutional change, and is now whingeing about the blatant dishonour of those pledges. I cannot understand how anybody could be so stupid as to have believed them, and yet have a brain capable of sparking respiration.

Labour is interested in losing no influence of Scottish Labour MPs on any UK or English matters. It wants greater powers to English metropolitan councils which are controlled by Labour – because that will give Labour careerists more jobs and access to contracts. Those are Labours “constitutional reform” goals. The Conservatives “constitutional reform” goals are to keep Scotland’s tax on oil revenues and tax on whisky coming to Westminster, while loading greater responsibilities but no more money on the Scottish parliament, and stopping Scottish MPs voting on English matters thus guaranteeing conservative apparatchiks continued jobs and access to contracts.

Both Tories and Labour want to keep the appalling corrupt and undemocratic House of Lords for its jobs for apparatchiks, access to contracts etc.

Nobody cares what the Lib Dems think anyway.

I ask again – what did you expect?

This is the collective wisdom of Andy Myles and myself, over an excellent mackerel breakfast at Nom De Plume.


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  • Republicofscotland

    Catalonia’s regional parliament has passed legislation authorizing a referendum on the region’s independence from the rest of Spain.

    Catalonia’s parliament made the announcement on Friday, allowing Catalan leaders to hold a non-binding vote on November 9.

    The law was approved with 106 to 28 votes.

    Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy is against Catalonia’s campaign for an independence referendum, because Spain’s constitution prohibits referendums that do not include all Spaniards.
    ———————–

    I really hope the Catalonian’s aren’t as gutless, as the 55% of Scots,who voted no.

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/09/19/379283/catalonia-gets-referendum-authority/

  • david coventry

    Tank Dempsey I know how you feel. I once interviewed for a job with BAE, and was accepted initially. I would have taken it, but for the fact that they later on rejected me. Now, 10 years later, I regret that decision, but I will be ashamed of myself for the initial acceptance for the rest of my life.

  • Anon1

    Habbabkuk

    Sorry to disagree but I am (I hope) being a gentleman by refusing the money and offering Craig the chance instead to donate the money to a Palestinian charity of his choice, a cause I know to be dear to his heart. As I said, I don’t need the money, but I would waive such a debt for friends and family only. For anyone else one should maintain a standard of insisting that a bet is settled, wherever it is decided that the money should go.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Peacewisher

    “Sorry, Habby!

    That’s the trouble with being a troll, you see. I’m sure you are quite different from anon1 but on a forum like this your bound to all be seen in the same light.”
    __________________

    That was an interesting comment, Peacewisher. Especially the phrase “a forum like this”.

    Would you, for my greater instruction, care to chararcterize this forum?

    Thanks!

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    RepublicOfPerspiringDreams

    “An open letter to the BBC’s Director General, written by Palestine solidarity activists, is calling for the removal of BBC journalist Anthony Reuben from all reporting on Palestine following the publication of an online article in which he attempts to sanitise Israel’s killing in Gaza.”
    _______________

    I love open letters!

    Advice, please, on whether I should send an open letter to the owner of this blog, Mr Craig Murray, calling for the removal of CM blog commenter Mr Republicofscotland from all commenting on CM following the posting of numerous comments in which he attempted to deny the reality of the Jewish Holocaust.

  • Ba'al Zevul

    Anon1 –

    *Trumpets sounding on the other side*. Good man (occasionally)

    I will see Craig’s £100 and raise him £100 (to MAP*) if he cares to confirm his donation.

    * http://www.map-uk.org/

    I see the Office of the Quartet Representative, Inc (prop, Tony Blair) still thinks there’s going to be a two-state solution, in its laughable report to be presented to the Ad-Hoc Liaison Committee in New York on Monday. By the Dear Leader himself. Round and round it goes.

  • Ba'al Zevul

    Oh, and it’s not subsidising Israel; Israel wouldn’t be doing any more if the relief agencies went home tomorrow, and absent being called to account by the US, admits no liability for destroying Gaza on a regular basis.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    Anon1

    “For anyone else one should maintain a standard of insisting that a bet is settled, wherever it is decided that the money should go.”

    _____________________

    I’m happy to defer to you on this one, Anon.

    I note, moreover, that our little exchange did bring about the windfall benefit of getting ReoublicOfPerspiringDreams and Monseigneur Douglas Scorgie into a considerable lather! 🙂

    But hush! We must stop exchanging pleasantries, lest Mary the Virtuous should accuse us of turning this blog into a private chatroom!

  • Mary

    Thanks Fedup.

    ~~~~~
    That is very decent of you Anon1. The money will be put to good use I am sure.

    ~~~

    Don’t know if this has been put up. I can remember that we talked about Mr Reuben’s trickery at the time.

    BBC’s new “Head of Statistics” twists casualty figures to whitewash Gaza massacre
    Amena Saleem
    19 September 2014
    http://www.middleeastmonitor.com/articles/middle-east/14224-bbcs-new-qhead-of-statisticsq-twists-casualty-figures-to-whitewash-gaza-massacre

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    “Oh, and it’s not subsidising Israel;…”

    _________________

    Habbabreak switched off for maintenance, Captain?

  • Mary

    Afshin Rattansi goes underground about the time WikiLeaks met Google. Julian Assange discusses the meeting he had in 2011 with Eric Schmidt and three others. Schmidt, now chairman of Google, was then a top executive. Assange maintains Google is in bed with the state department and also reveals the false allegations the US military made against WikiLeaks, which surfaced during the Chelsea Manning trial.

    Assange talks about Guardian gaffs, Glenn Greenwald, FinFisher spyware and the NSA’s rampant antics. The interview reveals ‘an extremely alarming phenomenon’: how more and more security-cleared Americans are joining the ranks of the ‘state within a state’ – 6 million to date. The interview wraps up with a discussion about the likely consequences for Scotland after the ‘No’ vote in their historic referendum.

    http://rt.com/shows/going-underground/189276-assange-google-scotland-referendum/

  • Tony M

    One of many grave errors of the Bitter-Together/NuLabour/Tory cabal, an error in most people’s eyes but not in their own, and which in the short term harms the Scottish people and society, but in long term speeds the imminence, and inevitablility of Scotland’s Independence, was in admitting and thus giving temporary legitimacy to these far-right unionist/loyalist/orangist groups to their conspiracy. These troglodyte monsters are the British states creation and plaything, the shock troops of civil oppression, tools of racial and religious supremacism and primacy, plus violence and fear. To their past and many victims and to a world watching intently, transfixed, becoming enraged, they are the signature traits of the controlling elite of the ugly criminal fudge, the pseudo-state, the identity crisis looking for a fight, for a kill, and some easy booty, that is the UK.

    The pledges made are already torn up and thrown to the wind.

    The backlash to the betrayal meanwhile grows a mighty head of productive steam.

  • Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    “Your posts are repetitive and tedious esp your little digs at me.”

    ___________________

    Mary, Mary – don’t take it all so seriously! After all, la vita è bella, life is good!

    And you are part of the luckiest UK generation ever!

    ****************

    PS – you enquired about Y fronts a little while ago. Happy to inform you that they’re still sold and I’m told that some people actually wear them. Hope that satisfies.

  • guano

    Courtenay Bennett

    USUKIS media constantly refer to stolen Syrian land as Islamic State. Many of the Islamist jihadists started their political careers as communists because of the policy of nationalisation of land. They saw a chance on joining and fighting for communist parties. Then they converted to Islam, attracted to Saudi Takfiri theology that you can appropriate the possessions of those you can prove to have sinned against the Shari’ah.

    I came across this old article about Cambodia where the entire land had previously been nationalised.
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/apr/26/cambodia

    Capitalism and Islamism make good fuck-buddies, next time you look at a photo of John McCain, you’ll know what he’s telling them.

  • Ben E. Geserit Muad'Dib Further Confounding Gender Speculators

    On 26 August a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas was agreed, bringing a fragile end to a war that killed 2150 Palestinians (mostly civilians) and 73 Israelis (mostly soldiers). Since then Hamas has not fired a single rocket, attacked an Israeli target, or done anything to break the terms of the ceasefire. Israel has done the following:

    1. Annexed another 1500 acres of West Bank land

    2. Seized $56 million of PA tax revenue
    3. Not lifted the illegal blockade (as required by the ceasefire)

    4. Broken the ceasefire by firing at fishermen on four separate occasions
    5. Detained six fishermen
    6. Killed a 22-year-old, Issa al Qatari, a week before his wedding

    7. Killed 16-year-old Mohammed Sinokrot with a rubber bullet to the head

    8. Tortured a prisoner to the point of hospitalisation

    9. Refused 13 members of the European Parliament entry into Gaza
    10. Detained at least 127 people across the West Bank, including a seven-year-old boy in Hebron and two children, aged seven and eight, taken from the courtyard of their house in Silwad – and tear-gassed their mother

    11. Continued to hold 33 members of the Palestinian Legislative Council in prison

    12. Continued to hold 500 prisoners in administrative detention without charge or trial

    13. Destroyed Bedouin homes in Khan al Ahmar, near Jerusalem, leaving 14 people homeless, and unveiled a plan to forcibly move thousands of Bedouin away from Jerusalem into two purpose-built townships

    14. Destroyed a dairy factory in Hebron whose profits supported an orphanage

    15. Destroyed a family home in Silwan, making five children homeless

    16. Destroyed a house in Jerusalem where aid supplies en route to Gaza were being stored
    17. Destroyed a well near Hebron

    18. Set fire to an olive grove near Hebron

    19. Raided a health centre and a nursery school in Nablus, causing extensive damage

    20. Destroyed a swathe of farmland in Rafah by driving tanks over it

    21. Ordered the dismantling of a small monument in Jerusalem to Mohamed Abu Khdeir, murdered in July by an Israeli lynch mob
    22. Continued building a vast tunnel network under Jerusalem

    23. Stormed the al Aqsa mosque compound with a group of far right settlers
    24. Assisted hundreds of settlers in storming Joseph’s Tomb in Nablus

    25. Prevented students from entering al Quds University, firing stun grenades and rubber bullets at those who tried to go in

    26. Earned unknown millions on reconstruction materials for Gaza, where 100,000 people need their destroyed homes rebuilt. The total bill is estimated at $7.8 billion

    http://chris-floyd.com/

  • John Goss

    “Advice, please, on whether I should send an open letter to the owner of this blog, Mr Craig Murray, calling for the removal of CM blog commenter Mr Republicofscotland from all commenting on CM following the posting of numerous comments in which he attempted to deny the reality of the Jewish Holocaust.”

    I can find nothing on this thread Habbabkuk. But out of principle, rather than denial of an historical truth, my guess is that your open letter would not be inundated with signatories. What would, to my mind, be a better open letter is one calling for the removal of the blog commenter, who stole my identity on the previous thread. You would sign that I’m sure, wouldn’t you?

  • Leslie

    Craig – when it comes to ‘stupid’ you should take your share of the ownership of that word. – This is why the Yes campaign lost – it misread reality. There will be no default on the pledges given to the Scottish people. In any event – it’s only a couple of days since the vote and already you proclaim betrayal – that is ‘stupid’. What you are witnessing – though you seem too ‘stupid’ to understand it – is the beginning of the English debate. That debate will not be allowed to impede the implementation of the pledges. Though it will do something else – it will overshadow the Scottish referendum. The spotlight will move away from Scotland to the rest of the UK – and in fact beyond – to the EU itself. And the EU, which already dislikes breakaway states will pronounce anathema all European independence movements. They will be denied admittance to the EU for decades. You are watching the aftershock of separatism – and the final death of Scottish Independence. But, of course, being ‘stupid’ you are too caught up in your loser pain to see what is happening. You have been told.

  • Tony M

    The reality Leslie is so proud of is unionist thugs terrorising a city and country, encouraged by the British state and a state broadcaster misreporting over the last half-century, the realities which drive people from the west of Scotland, to leave for what they hope are safer places, but the contagion affects the whole country, no one is safe anywhere in any part of Scotland, let me assure you, from these tools of oppresssion. The problem has been ignored for generations, is fuelled by the establishment clique, most workplaces, even major employers, e.g BAE and Rolls-Royce permit outrageous sectarian discrimination and intimidation in the workplace, and reward well those conducting it, the unions actively particpating in this also.

    Not Scotland;s shame, but the Unions shame.

    http://wingsoverscotland.com/enough-is-enough/

  • Mark Coleman

    I am a YES voter, an Englishman living in Glasgow. For some inexplicable reason I am on a mailing list which mean I received a spam message from Ed Milliband yesterday, inviting me to join the Labour party.
    I did my best to be polite and civil in my reply, and I almost succeeded.

    “Dear Mr Milliband,
    Many thanks for your email invitation to join the Labour party today, but I am afraid you have caught me at a very bad time. The truth is I’ll probably vote Green in future. Suffice to say you won’t find me voting Labour ever again.
    May I just take this opportunity to ask you and your members to fuck right off you lying traitorous scumbags.
    Thank you.
    Yours sincerely

  • Tony M

    If you are abroad, wherever, whether you are an Arab sheik or a Russian oligarch, or a foreign government buying fighter planes, an airline buying aero engines, Rolls-Royce, boycott them, bankrupt the fuckers, you’re feeding and funding these sectarian evils.

  • John Goss

    Sofia, love that!

    “Sir– At least that’s the Scottish question answered – now we know what’s not under the kilt. – Yours, etc…”

  • Joe

    It’s a pity everyone doesn’t understand how the British ‘elite’ really operate. If they did, no one would have bothered voting yes or no. It’s blindly obvious that the vote was ‘stolen’. At least 70% actually voted yes.

  • John Goss

    Tony M 20 Sep, 2014 – 11:08 pm

    That’s right. Only trouble is these oligarchs are everywhere. We have one here, released from imprisonment in Russia, who is starting an Open Russia campaign, you know, like Yatsenyuk’s Open Ukraine backed by NATO, Chatham House, etc. etc.

    http://news.yahoo.com/khodorkovsky-launches-movement-challenge-putin-193938861.html

    They hope to bring to Russia what they brought to the formerly peaceful Eastern Ukraine – civil war. They are totally evil.

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