Droning On 285


It turns out that the CIA has realised for years that drone attacks are of very limited utility. Like so many of the injustices of the “War on Terror”, they are in fact a driver for armed hatred of the West, not least because they kill more civilians than targets.

But of course, the “war on terror” is very much about boosting the standing of politicians who are “fighting terror” on behalf of their citizens, and about boosting the ever-inflating powers – and budgets – of the security services. SO counterproductive measures are, paradoxically, the most attractive to those whose aim is not to obtain peace, but rather to maintain the concentration of power and finance consequent upon an eternal state of phoney war.


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  • giyane

    Macky

    Double Wow iro MH370 !!

    So nothing to do with a Malaysian court convicting US government torture terrorists??? Another twist of fantasy to this terrible tragedy by the suffocaters of the oxygen of truth.

  • KingOfWelshNoir

    Macky

    I reckon the MH370 story is disinfo, a cover story for the Americans if it turns out–as many people believe–that the plane is in or in the vicinity of Diego Garcia. The clue in my opinion is the visit from the spooks to warn him off going public with his story , but if you look closer it appears he doesn’t have a story. A fisherman saw a ‘huge plane’ in Malaysian colours and they found a fire extinguisher. Can’t see anyone bothering to threaten a man over that. At the same time those details don’t corroborate the story that the US thought the plane had been hacked, they can just as easily be used to support the story that the US hacked it and shot it down. Just my humble opinion šŸ™‚

  • Macky

    Giyane; “So nothing to do with a Malaysian court convicting US government torture terrorists???”

    Perhaps that other Malaysian plane that fell out of the sky over Ukraine, also had nothing to do with this,…..or perhaps, maybe not…?

  • Macky

    KOWN; “I reckon the MH370 story is disinfo, a cover story for the Americans if it turns outā€“as many people believeā€“that the plane is in or in the vicinity of Diego Garcia”

    Evan as disinfo, it still further links the US with the plane’s disappearence, & why would they even bother linking any connection, real or phony to themselves ? Are they laying the groundwork for admitting that this is what really actually happened ? If so, are they gambling that more people will believe terrorist hijack rationale, rather then just vindicately getting back at Malaysian for the War Crimes court ?

    It actually sort of reminds me of this;

    http://mycatbirdseat.com/2011/07/was-norway-massacre-a-reaction-to-boycott-israel-camp/

    I do also recall reading reports shortly after, about debris washing up in the Maldives;

    http://www.maldives.com/destination-guides/debris-missing-flight-mh370-washed-beach-maldives/762

  • Mary

    An interview with the Norwegian surgeon, Mads Gilbert, who has been banned from returning to Gaza by the Israelis. He describes his experiences working during the last Israeli attack on Gaza as the worst in his medical life. 18 mins in. He has worked alongside the Palestinian doctors over the last 8 years in previous Israeli attacks.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzIf7Bk8CHM
    Talk to Al Jazeera – Mads Gilbert: ‘People are questioning Israel’

    What a man. What humanity.

  • Silvio

    Author of a newly published book claims Princess Diana was assassinated.

    A bombshell new book published this week names the MI6 officer who headed the operation team that carried out the assassination of Princess Diana in Paris in late-August 1997.

    The book entitled How They Murdered Princess Diana: The Shocking Truth is the most complete evidence-based account yet published on the car crash in the Alma Tunnel that took the lives of Diana and her lover Dodi Fayed.

    snip

    Morgan has spent years studying and assessing the huge amount of evidence pertaining to the Paris crash ā€“ including over 8,000 pages of inquest transcripts and official police investigative reports. He also analysed and published over 500 documents that were secretly supplied to him in 2010. The explosive material ā€“ which included the official post-mortem reports for both Diana and Dodi ā€“ came from within the Scotland Yard Paget investigation, but all 500 plus documents had been fraudulently withheld from the inquest jury in London.

    How They Murdered Princess Diana covers the entire story of what occurred, including the massive post-crash cover-up conducted by British authorities. The book exposes the official 2007-8 inquest into the deaths as one of the most corrupt court investigations in Englandā€™s judicial history. This is the first time the complete story has been addressed in such chilling detail ā€“ a true account using the witnesses own words that will at times leave the reader shocked, aghast and breathless.

    A leading UK QC, Michael Mansfield, who served throughout the six months of the London inquest has stated: ā€œI have no doubt that the volumes written by John Morgan will come to be regarded as the ā€˜Magnum Opusā€™ on the crash ā€¦ that resulted in the unlawful killing of Diana, Princess of Wales and Dodi Al Fayed and the cover-up that followed.ā€

    http://noliesradio.org/archives/93121

    For an interview with the book’s author, John Morgan, go to the link directly above and then click on the embedded audio player’s play button located near the top of the page to start the audio playing. The first hour of the audio is an interview with ex-US Democratic Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney. The interview with Morgan starts in hr 2. (You can advance the player to the Morgan interview by using the slider bar on the player.)

  • KingOfWelshNoir

    Macky, thing is, ā€˜theyā€™ – meaning the US authorities – are not making the link, it comes from the former chief exec of an airline no one has heard of. Heā€™s probably just an unwitting conduit being used to sow the story. We donā€™t know who is feeding him. It could be the Americans preparing a cover story if the truth emerges; it could be someone else trying to discredit the Americans, or the whole Diego Garcia story might be pure misdirection and this reinforces the phoney story. Who can say? Personally, I think stories like this are sown purely to muddy the waters and create conflicting narratives so that everything can be suspected but nothing can be known for sure. Look at how many bogus narratives have turned up about 9/11. No-planes, holograms, space lasers, mini nukes, directed energy weaponsā€¦and of course the most improbable of all: the worldā€™s most sophisticated air defence systems penetrated by a load of blokes with box cutters directed by a bearded loon living in a cave next door to Blofeld šŸ™‚

  • Tony

    It seems to me the world is missing what should be the bleeding obvious.
    The Sony Hack is a false flag operation as a pretext to justify hostilities against North Korea and ultimately China. Not as bloody as the Gulf of Tonkin incident which started the Vietnam War, nor as protracted as Colin Powell’s theatrical comedy in the UN to justify war against Iraq, but the same old, same old story. Tell a big lie, then repeat it relentlessly until a sufficient proportion of the gullible public at home accepts it. Russia is in the same boat.

    Just as many Hollywood movies have similar if not the same plots, just how many Western led crises have followed almost identical plots? There is a template of how regime change and war are administered by the Loonie Right in Washington (often with the help of NATO and now the EU), and equally a long list of how they have failed.

    As North Korea looks at its broken internet, it should remind itself of the fabrications which are intended to bring Putin and Russia to its knees because they refused to nod through the blitzkrieg against the Syrian government. It should take another look at the agitators in Hong Kong. It should take another look at Iraq ten years on. It should take a look at the mess in Pakistan. It is hard to find a war-zone without the fingerprints of the Washington Loonie Right all over it.

    Maybe the gradual unpeeling of the onion-skins of US and UK torture will help reveal the West for what we have become. Even the Daily Mail has twigged it, God bless it. http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2014/12/forget-evil-putin-were-the-bloodthirsty-warmongers.html

    The hacking of Sony’s executives’ emails, their accounts and the theft of DCPs of hundreds of millions of dollars’ worth of unreleased major movies are the work of world-class hackers the expertise for which is readily available in NSA and GCHQ and they have both motivation, funding and opportunity. If the US’s “usual suspects” hate figures of China, Russia, Iran or the Taliban wanted to go to all this trouble hacking a secure US network it would seem a waste of resources to go after a film company.

  • Mark Golding

    Looking at the toolkit link by Summerhead intended to give pro-Israel campaigners the essential information and advice needed to campaign for Israel both all-year-round and in the event of a crisis when Israel hits the headlines, we can agree the knowledge of ‘intention’ is minus – they can’t cut it.

    Why is this?

    Because the Zionist metaphysics is centered on mendacity, treachery and lies. You cannot entangle with that philosophy, like snow, it just melts away.

  • Macky

    KOWN; “Personally, I think stories like this are sown purely to muddy the waters and create conflicting narratives so that everything can be suspected but nothing can be known for sure”

    Indeed, rather like the deraillings, distractions & misdirections that online shills & trolls employ on political blogs !

  • Mark Golding

    http://russia-insider.com/en/military_media_watch/2014/11/11/01-30-22pm/mh17_witnesses_tell_bbc_they_saw_ukrainian_jet_bbc?nopaging=1

    Tut! Get some balls you ‘strines’ – Mo, 12, Evie, 10 and Otis Maslin, 8, are memories.

    ā€œOur babies are not here with us ā€” we need to live this act of horror, every day and every moment for the rest of our lives.ā€

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/bodies-children-killed-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh17-crash-returned-australia-article-1.1976809

  • Mary

    Sympathy and condolences Brian for your fellow Scots killed and injured in Glasgow yesterday and for their families and friends. Three of those killed were from the same family. Truly horrific.

  • Kempe

    ” No-planes, holograms, space lasers, mini nukes, directed energy weaponsā€¦and of course the most improbable of all: the worldā€™s most sophisticated air defence systems penetrated by a load of blokes with box cutters directed by a bearded loon ”

    So, please enlighten us and tell us what you think really happened.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita ĆØ bella)

    Anon writes, Ć  propos “Republicofscotland” :

    “PressTV, FFS. Are you a Zionist infiltrator?”
    _____________________

    It is clear from his posts (their variety and their extreme character) that “Republicofscotland” – who, by the way, suddenly appeared on here out of nowhere – is either barking mad or an infiltrator (but not a Zionist one) whose posts are designed to encourage others harbouring similar “views” to come out into the open.

    Not that I mind that, of course, in fact I welcome it.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita ĆØ bella)

    “Japan, Australia, US start new era with F-35 service agreement”
    ________________

    Splendid news! Thanks for posting.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita ĆØ bella)

    “KOWN; ā€œPersonally, I think stories like this are sown purely to muddy the waters and create conflicting narratives so that everything can be suspected but nothing can be known for sureā€

    Indeed, rather like the deraillings, distractions & misdirections that online shills & trolls employ on political blogs !”
    __________________

    Or indeed, Macky, rather like people working out their personal demons and dark obsessions online on political blogs. No names, no pack-drill, eh?

  • giyane

    No personal demons for Bah! Humbug.

    He gets his supply of sickly-sweet Humbugs straight from the Humbug factory: Israel.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita ĆØ bella)

    Giyane

    14h32 on a normal weekday – shouldn’t you be hard at work?

    No wonder the country’s going to the dogs!

  • Mary

    NHS Support Federation

    NHS changes continue to bear gifts for the private sector

    Since April 2013, Ā£5 billion worth of NHS contracts have been awarded through the market. 67% of these clinical awards have been won by Non-NHS providers ā€“ a total of Ā£2.4bn.

    Ā£13bn worth of contracts still remain in the pipeline. This is probably an underestimate: around a third of tender adverts do not publicly reveal their value. However we estimate that non-NHS bodies stand to gain Ā£6.6bn from the contracts still in the pipeline.

    So If they continue to win contracts at the current rate (50% of value), non-NHS companies will stand to gain Ā£9bn of NHS money since the Health Act was passed.

    http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=5f72f778439e38b1d18a28495&id=ab5051ff4c&e=6b1a0385b4

    ~~~

    Note Lord Blackwell Tory peer who voted for the H&SCAct 2012 lining up to make a killing.

  • giyane

    Kempe, prat.

    The Ukraine, very much like the UK is actually run by top Jews. They run the security, the hospitals, the nuclear facilities, the banks, the corporations. Exactly the same as here in the UK.

    If senior command in Jerusalem want Saudi Arabia to think that Russia is not a political ally of the West, not helping the West to frustrate the removal of their pet torturer Assad, they phone the causa nostra to make the story happen.

    Have you ever wondered why all the trolls and shills work for Israel? Just for balance why can’t we have a few taking the anti-torture for Muslims corner. Just to make it look like the debate is real? There are millions of Syrian families living in derelict buildings being bombed by Assad or in tents as refugees. Why can’t we have some trolls or shills for them for a change?

    The facts about Zionist abuse of Muslims are obvious and self-explanatory in words of one syllable. USUKIS started a civil war in Syria, propagated it with their mercenaries from Al Qaida, and secretly backed Assad to mire the country in wretched war.
    The motivations for persecuting Muslims, the visceral hatred of righteousness and conscience by the Zionists is intrinsically incomprehensible.

    The explanation for this evil is that the Zionists ( Jews and Christians ) hate the fact that the custody of the religion of Islam was taken away from them by Allah, and He conferred it on the followers of the prophet Muhammad, May God’s blessings and peace be upon him. Ameen.

  • lysias

    It would be a very strange coincidence if the disappearance of the one Malaysian airliner were not connected with the shootdown of the other one. Myself, I suspect NATO/U.S. were experimenting with a means of remotely controlling the flight path of airliners. In that way, the second airliner could have been diverted into the combat area in Ukraine. A NATO air/naval exercise just happens to have just ended in the Black Sea at the time.

    Something that it has also been claimed — with some evidence that it was possible — happened during 9/11.

  • Kempe

    ” The Ukraine, very much like the UK is actually run by top Jews. ”

    Thank you. We were overdue a bit of anti-Semitism.

    ” It would be a very strange coincidence if the disappearance of the one Malaysian airliner were not connected with the shootdown of the other one. ”

    Because coincidences never happen in conspiracy world do they?

  • lysias

    Certainly coincidences happen. But the less probable they are, the more you have to suspect that they were not just coincidences.

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