I am unreservedly delighted at Jeremy Corbyn’s election. He made a quite excellent speech, specifically rejecting an attack on Syria, marketization in the NHS and the new anti-union legislation. Hopefully the scale of his victory will give pause to the Blairites who will realise they are not as all-important as they thought.
There is no doubt whatsoever that the vast majority of the Labour establishment, as represented by the people in that hall, are hostile to Corbyn. The question now is whether Corbyn can overhaul party mechanisms in such a way as to bring the opinions of the membership to bear on policy and override that right wing “elite” who have been in charge of the party.
The first few weeks are key. Most Blairites are above all careerists. If they think Corbyn can carry through his personal dominance into control of policy and party mechanisms, then many of the Blairites will look at their constituency members and suddenly discover they had left-wing principles after all. If the Blairites think that a resistance and undermining campaign against Corbyn will succeed (and there will certainly be one), they will go for that. In short, most “Blairites” are out for themselves and will join what they perceive will be the winning side Corbyn’s winning margin, and the fact he won overwhelmingly among full members, gives him a very strong base.
I have shared anti-war and pro-Palestinian platforms with Jeremy, and have the greatest respect for him. I also expect that he will have the strength to stand against both the smothering blandishments and the attacks of the neo-con establishment. The “Corbyn’s election is a disaster” narrative is being pushed by the BBC relentlessly in every question and comment – for example they just asked Ed Miliband “In retrospect was it a mistake for you to resign the day after the election?”, the clear sub-text being that Corbyn’s election was undesirable.
Ever since I realised that Blair’s New Labour was entirely subservient to the neo-con agenda I have regarded Labour as the enemy, as a fake opposition so close to the Tories as to make no difference. I viewed its leadership as utterly unscrupulous careerists fully signed up to a vicious pro-wealthy agenda at home and completely subservient to US/Israeli foreign policy abroad. This new careerism tied in very nicely with a pre-existing rotten borough corruption in Scotland and Northern England. I utterly detested the Labour Party.
So it is difficult for me to find the Labour Party led by a man whom I know, nuch respect, and with whom I disagree on almost nothing except Scottish independence. I also continue to believe that once consolidated, Jeremy will make it clear he has no hostility to Scottish independence and will support a second referendum whenever the Scottish government wants it.
But the problem is that the Labour Party hierarchy, and particularly their parliamentary party, is still full of people who are neo-cons, Red Tories, appallingly corrupt, careerists and in several cases war criminals. To know what attitude to adopt to the Labour Party must depend on how the battle for control of the party pans out. The scale of Corbyn’s victory, and the total rejection of the direct interference of Tony Blair, give Corbyn a great start. Those Blairite bastions – the Guardian and the BBC – are spluttering incoherently.
Jeremy Corbyn has just won the battle for party leadership. But the battle for control of the Labour Party just started.
“What can be said without evidence can be dismissed without evidence – now piss off you racist”
Good morning to you too. Evidence of Rothschild involvement in the creation of Israel is of course to be found in the so-called Balfour Declaration (handy hint: look at the name of the addressee). Evidence of the extent of Rothschild land ownership is Israel is to be found in that well-known racist Simon Schama’s second book “Two Rothchilds and the Land of Israel” (handy hint: read the introduction).
That’s probably more than enough evidence for today!
No it isn’t – the now dismissed claim was that the Rothschilds owned 80% of Israel – we now need to understand MJ’s motivation in pedalling this lie.
“the now dismissed claim was that the Rothschilds owned 80% of Israel”
Dismissed where and by whom?
Jadda jadda, still the dreaming carries on here. Whilst the US is stocking up Kievs arms arsenals, they are busy painting the future burning.
basically what they are saying is that revolution will destroy us all, when in fact its them who have destabilised the world and unless we allow them to carry on, they will throw their toys out of the pram and pretend it was Corbyn who caused the chaos.
“pretend it was Corbyn who caused the chaos.”
I very much doubt it – he has to get into power first – at the moment he is just noise.
Capitalism is a revolutionary force, it’s not like nobody told them.
By me – What can be said without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
I love the smell of schadenfreude in the morning but never more than when watching millionaire war-criminal Burnham’s face, as the result was announced. I want it on a loop for Xmas. ;O)
…. and right now average male life expectancy is higher in the Gaza Strip than it is in Glasgow.
Thanks for reminding us of the damage Scotland has suffered at the hands of Westminster, Fred.
“By me – What can be said without evidence can be dismissed without evidence”
I cited the evidence but you have chosen to ignore it. Golly, the yoghurt is curdled today!
“Thanks for reminding us of the damage Scotland has suffered at the hands of Westminster, Fred.”
A man born in Dunbartonshire can expect to live seven and a half years longer than a man born in Glasgow so SNP stock answer of blaming everything on Westminster doesn’t wash this time.
Fred, simple question :
Is the low life expectancy in Glasgow the fault of the SNP?
It will be interesting to see if the election of Corbyn has a similar effect on UK politics as the independence referendum had on Scotland – to politicise young people and clearly demonstrate to them that the media cannot be trusted.
“Is the low life expectancy in Glasgow the fault of the SNP?”
If they go swanning around the world playing at being world leaders instead of improving conditions in their own constituencies it certainly will be.
Mary 13 Sep, 2015 – 12:08 pm- Interesting. Maybe we all have motivations for being here.
“Fred, simple question :” lol
Just found this, ‘Is Capitalism Conservative?’ NO is the short answer. Bunch of crooks.
http://aleteia.org/2013/11/07/is-capitalism-conservative/
Fred, simple question :
Is the low life expectancy in Glasgow the fault of the SNP?
“Is the low life expectancy in Glasgow the fault of the SNP?”
It is certainly the responsibility of the SNP.
Fred,
Is the low life expectancy in Glasgow the fault of the SNP?
Node
Is the life expectancy of a man in Glasgow the Scottish government’s responsibility?
Ishmael We had a very politically aware and active father. We knew all about fascism and so on at an early age. Also the umemployment in the 30s, Mosley and his henchmen, the Spanish civil war and the advances in technology (he knew John Logie Baird). Some of his predictions have come true. What he would think of what is going on in this country and elsewhere would make him turn in his grave – if he had one. He was cremated.
We grew up under Tory reign, following Attlee’s short time in power.
Attlee’s potted biog on this Wiki timeline.
Victory over Japan ends World War II; Potsdam Conference; initiated the post-war consensus; introduced nationalisation of Bank of England and utilities; foundation of the National Health Service; extended national insurance scheme; economic austerity characterized by continued and deepened wartime food and fuel rationing; Independence of India and the end of the British role in Palestine; foundation of NATO; beginning of the Cold War; the Berlin Blockade and the resulting Berlin Airlift; National Service Act 1948 revives conscription; start of British involvement in the Korean War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Prime_Ministers_of_the_United_Kingdom
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Not answering your question, but last I heard it’s still pretty crap for a lot of people. And it does shock me they can’t to anything. Same with Greace, and I do think hey tried.
You’d think they could get some kind of social program together. I’d say it’s both structural issues of the system and social issues about restricted imagination (ie the possible the ways for working ‘with’ or in communities) and one informs or negatively influences the other.
It end’s up being them promoting themselves, rock star revolutionaries…They have no vision, can’t think in basic terms Ie from scratch. And don’t come up with any real new or novel ideas about organising society….
In fact they’d fall on anyone trying to smash a hole in the “Gasometre” in the name of law and order ….Drag them off the nearest cage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkROFa8bHZ4
Mary.
John Logie Baird was watching television when there was a knock at his door which his wife answered.
“John there is an Englishman at the door who wants a word with you, he says he has just invented the t.v. detector van”.
And so it goes on and on and on and on!
Is the life expectancy of a man in Glasgow the Scottish government’s responsibility?
Yes. Is the low life expectancy in Glasgow the fault of the SNP?
Fred, I have to go out now. Please repeat my question after all your non-answers until I return.
“They claimed they wanted self determination for the Scots but all they ever wanted was power for themselves.”
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Self determination includes power for ouselves power to stop Westminster, the biggest murderers of disabled and sick people in the Britain today.
Power to stop billions of pounds being wasted on weapons we can never use in anger, meanwhile children go hungry and the low paid rely on foodbanks.
“If they go swanning around the world playing at being world leaders instead of improving conditions in their own constituencies it certainly will be.”
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I suppose it could worse we could be swanning around the world murdering and pillaging like the British government does.
This is some of the work of the mainstream journalists Craig refers to on the new post. Shipman was on the Mail until recently.
Awful Sunday Times front-page coverage of Corbyn
Posted by The Medialens Editors on September 13, 2015, 2:24 pm
[Via Lexis]
If I were to highlight all the stupid, smearing-by-association, ridiculous comments, virtually the whole text would be in bold. Here are just a few of the highlights……..
DC
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Corbyn sparks Labour civil war;
Shadow cabinet splits as moderates walk out ; Party rebels plot to oust new leader
BYLINE: Tim Shipman; James Lyons; Marie Woolf
SECTION: NEWS; FRONT PAGE; Pg. 1,4
LENGTH: 1580 words
LABOUR was plunged into a bitter civil war last night after Jeremy Corbyn’s election as leader when nearly half the shadow cabinet refused to serve under him.
Lord Mandelson issued a coded call for the hard-left veteran to be removed before the general election, warning that the party would “slide into history” unless Labour had a leader with “policies that people regard as relevant and workable”.
Corbyn’s landslide victory was hailed by the hard-left parties of Europe, including Syriza, Podemos and the Socialist Workers party; the Sinn Fein president, Gerry Adams; Russia; a website run by Palestinian terror group Hamas; and even Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, the president of Argentina, who praised his demand for Britain to share sovereignty of the Falklands.
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http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/1442150673.html
Of course the real reason why Craig and Nicola welcome Corbyn’s election is that they know his politics will make it more difficult to remove their favoured Tories from power – which they then believe will make the case for independence stronger. There is no concept of solidarity and the misery of ordinary English and Welsh working people is just the ends that justifies the means.
Craig’s hatred of the Labour Party goes back a lot further than Blair.
Nicola Sturgeon on Twitter yesterday
“Nicola Sturgeon @NicolaSturgeon · Sep 12
If Lab can’t quickly show that they have credible chance of winning UK election, many will conclude that Indy only alternative to Tory gov”
Humiliation for a colonial power (the UK) as this statue was unveiled.
Kenya Mau Mau memorial funded by UK unveiled
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-34231890
Fancy finding this on the Sky News website.
No Laughing Matter: Tories Change Tune On Corbyn
There’s been a sudden U-turn in the way the Tories are dealing with Corbyn – and it’s clear the PM is copying Tony Blair again.
http://news.sky.com/story/1551793/no-laughing-matter-tories-change-tune-on-corbyn
14:57, UK,
Sunday 13 September 2015