I honestly do not care if David Cameron stuck it in a pig, though it is a stark reminder the ruling class are very different to us. But what is disgusting is the attack on the vulnerable, poor and disadvantaged which he is leading now.
I lifted this picture from twitter – don’t know who originated, but brilliant!
@Republicofscotland – Careful with the Shakespeare authorship thing. Most non-Stratfordians have as one of their most important arguments the notion that the son of wool merchant couldn’t have written such great plays.
@Fwl – Why do you feel a need to answer any of the Hasbararsewipe’s questions?
“I do love to see Krishnamurti’s philosophy so movingly transmitted by Alcyone/ Villager, whose exhortations to the milder commentators here to know themselves are visibly inspired by his own meditative practice.”
Irony.
You don’t practise as you preach.
Or, are incapable of practising as you preach.
“It appears that he is endeavouring to obtain a reaction to what if he were facing me, he would not, I promise him, utter for long.”
That’s an invitation to a duel, if I’m not mistaken.
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Excellent post, KOWN.
Thank you, N_
This thread was starting to turn into a Stepford Wives coffee morning.
N_
22/09/2015 7:44pm
“Does that sound like ordinary English, or do you get the impression that the author is trying to crowbar certain expressions into his blurb?”
I do: but my impression is that the expressions refer to academic degrees. I can’t see that it has anything to do with Freemasonry, as you suggest.
It being Ashcroft who is apologising, he is playing on the idea of a “first” being the best honours degree, and the “third” being the worst honours degree (into which, and below which, he is placing himself).
The degrees of Freemasonry would be entirely reversed, the first degree being the lowest and the third degree being the highest.
Kind regards,
John
@John – Point taken, but we have a reason for the freemasonic interpretation, namely that it would communicate “sorry, I wasn’t as loyal to our insiders’ code as I should have been“. Getting the degrees the right way round might have made it too obvious.
(I’ll add that saying “you were bad, but I was worse” is an atrociously ill-mannered way to apologise to someone, but that of course is another issue.)
“Thanks for your help anyway. Now run along and do your own research on the wisest man to have walked the planet in recent and modern times, which, probably, means in all times. Don’t get too caught up in it and don’t be late to deliver the post in the morning. Okay?”
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I see your wise man was a mystic among other things, he probably knew mystic Meg and Russell Grant.
Alcyone said wisest man ever to have walked the planet, and not a pig in sight.
Like all wide men, oops, I meant wise men…he ended up living in sunny California.
“John Goss, you do realise that you’ll upset the resident invigilators, who’ll do their best to denounce you and your link as poppycock.”
But you see RoS how wrong you were. When confronted with the same truth I have been pursuing over MH17 since Russia first presented its Radar evidence they have worn out their misinformation links. They have nothing left in their metaphorical arsenals. The truth, when it gets out, is difficult to challenge.
“@Republicofscotland – Careful with the Shakespeare authorship thing. Most non-Stratfordians have as one of their most important arguments the notion that the son of wool merchant couldn’t have written such great plays.”
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I do apologise N…heaven forbid….not wishing to upset, I wonder if our acolyte of the late wisest man on earth,Alcyone, would happen to have the answer to that great Shakspearean poser…did Willy pen his own work.
RepublicofPlagiarism, not so fat.
I don’t expect, even a plagiarist to complete his research so fast.
“I see your wise man…” He wasn’t and isn’t, mine in any sense of the word, other than he was a fellow human being. I never saw or met him, but that is entirely unimportant.
If he was anybody’s, he was in his early days adopted by Lady Emily Lutyens. Find his biography by her daughter, Mary Luyens and go from there. Come back to me next year. Meantime, adios amigo.
“But you see RoS how wrong you were. When confronted with the same truth I have been pursuing over MH17 since Russia first presented its Radar evidence they have worn out their misinformation links. They have nothing left in their metaphorical arsenals. The truth, when it gets out, is difficult to challenge.”
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Yes John, the usual suspects are indeed remarkably tacit tonight, even though the sunset hours ago.
I would say John, that on this particular occasion, Putin, may not be the most culpable, but overall he’s no shrinking violet. There are no innocent parties in the Great Game.
Earlier today the Guardian published this:
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/22/met-police-overstepped-mark-paedophile-inquiry-prosecutor
And this evening they published this:
http://www.theguardian.com/law/2015/sep/22/westminster-paedophile-ring-inquiry-on-verge-of-collapse-claims-harvey-proctor
(they don’t tell you that Proctor fled the country last month)
Oh, so that’s ok then, all the Westminster paedo stuff is just baseless accusations, so let’s go back to waving our Union Jacks in the corrupt, fascist cuckoo land that is Britain in the 21st century.
God Save the Queen (from legal action)…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk
Habba & Co will no doubt now probably stand up, spilling their G&Ts and lines of coke.
Exaronews is still on the beat. IPCC launches 13 more probes into paedophile ‘cover-ups’. Claims are all of abuse by VIP’s.
N_
22/09/2015 8:31pm
Possibly: but it’s rather clunky. There are much more subtle ways that that could have been done, if you suggest that this is one Freemason communicating with another.
Kind regards,
John
Interesting. I wonder if we are going to see more of this in the coming months.
I actually think that is quite likely, because Blair’s mob and the Tory Party became so interchangeable over the past decade that a lot of quite left-wing people were probably forced into the Liberal Democrats more or less by default.
http://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk/news/13775964.BREAKING__Teddington_councillor_defects_from_Lib_Dems_to_Jeremy_Corbyn_s_Labour/?ref=fbshr
Kind regards,
John
@John Goss
Thanks for the link John,Nice to have some more conformation.
http://johnhelmer.net/?p=14153
FSB, may have killed Russian fraud whistleblower, Alexander Perepilichny, in 2012, after information recently released showed that he had an obscure poison found in his stomach.
Perepilichny who lived in Surrey, helped uncover a multimillion pound fraud involving Russian officials. Lawyers for financial firm, Hermitage Capital Management, seek to put forward relevant facts that the FSB were involved.
I’ve often disagreed with Mr Chomsky in the past, but I suppose like Corbyn, commeth the hour, commeth the man:
Noam Chomsky on George Orwell, the Suppression of Ideas and the Myth of American Exceptionalism…
http://www.democracynow.org/2015/9/22/noam_chomsky_on_the_myth_of
(this is an excerpt from an hour long interview that Chomsky recently gave to Democracy Now)
‘Vorsprung durch cheating’, as they say in Wolfsburg. I hope VW gets hammered for conspiring to worsen the asthma of thousands of children.
I’m sure they plead ignorance
Thanks N_ for waking up the thread, it was a bit like listening to the Archers for a while.
RobG
22/09/2015 10:18pm
Thanks, RobG.
Here is a link to Orwell’s unpublished introduction to Animal Farm that Chomsky mentions in this transcript. It is well worth reading.
http://orwell.ru/library/novels/Animal_Farm/english/efp_go
Kind regards,
John
“FSB, may have killed Russian fraud whistleblower, Alexander Perepilichny, in 2012, after information recently released showed that he had an obscure poison found in his stomach…”
There’s not much right wing propaganda you don’t believe, ROS, is there!
Thanks, John, that’s a cracking link! and I would strongly advise other interested parties to read it.
Thus far I’ve only done a speed read of what Orwell wanted to say in his ‘censored’ intro to Animal Farm, and in that context two things came across strongly to me: firstly, the Establishment and media structure was no different in the early part of the 20th century to what it is now in the early 21st century; secondly, although Orwell was writing about the corruption of power in a general sense, the only way he could get his book published at the time was to put it in a Stalinist context.
But Orwell’s preface is about how he couldn’t get Animal Farm published — for a couple of years.
Trump would not be disturbed if Putin goes into Syria and strikes ISIS. http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/09/21/trump-i-dont-want-people-to-know-everything-i-would-do-on-syria/
But these cars have been going for MOT and the emissions tests thereof, and passed, these external computers and programmable parameters could not have been cheated, or could they?
Does anyone know the details of the the cheat instead of the general overarching, sweeping statements of “cheating”? Is some hedge fund manager intent on pushing the price down to buy the shares?
Also Anyone heard the price hike from $1 to $750 dollars a pill for an Aids drug? The patent has been bought by yet another hedge fund manager!
Alcyone said: “Read this, read that. Do you ever write anything? Discover something new? Create? Live?”
I’m reminded of nuke threads on the Guardian, where the trolls completely take-over, and so no one else bothers to post, and so the trolls just talk among themselves, trying to give the impression that there’s some kind of democratic debate going on.
This kind of slimy/criminal behavior has killed the Guardian, and just about all other mainstream media.
You are a busted flush.
So what exactly is going on with this Cameron/Ashcroft thing.
Is there a broader push going on. A broader objective.
Even the military seem to be having a go at Cameron. Tory toffs too.
Then there was that Corbyn “coup” thing, which has ended up looking more like an attack on the military leadership, ridiculing them. An attack on the military leadership under cover of Corby’s “radical” politics.
Devious, eh.
How do the teams line up.
Is it that old Atlanticist/Gaullist thing flaring up again.
Producers against bankers.
Nationalists versus Internationalists.
Look at that Rifkind affair recently.
The complexion of The Intelligence and Security Committee is now quite changed.
Less Internationalist, I’d say.
Fedup.
I was reading some info on that earlier.
Martin Shkreli, 32, the founder and chief executive of Turing Pharmaceuticals, purchased the rights to Daraprim for $55 million, and raised the price overnight from $13.50 per tablet to $750.
Takes the Phrase ‘you couldn’t make it up ‘ to New £$$$ hights.
RobG
Here is a great take on the Guardian By Johnathan Cook
How Corbyn’s Victory Unmasked Britain’s Guardian
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/09/21/red-neoliberals-how-corbyns-victory-unmasked-britains-guardian/
Ahh..
Ex-hedge funder buys rights to AIDS drug and raises price from $13.50 to $750 per pill
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/ex-hedge-funder-buys-rights-aids-drug-and-raises-price-from-13-50-to-750-per-pill/
I became a vegetarian after reading about it in The Vegetarian Magazine in the Health Food Store my mother founded. That was some forty years ago now. I am so pleased to learn that our future PM is also a vegetarian. This article, without any attempt at sarcasm, brings the comment back on topic.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/sirajdatoo/corbyn-hogging-the-limelight#.kyyoBOlWdA
Cruelty to pigs was the reason Jeremy Corbyn became a vegetarian. I’m saying nothing.