Clement Freud, My Part in his Downfall 397


Commenters on this blog directly caused the exposure of Clement Freud in the ITV story. I published an anodyne obituary in 2009 giving my memories of Freud. One commenter wrote:

He was a notorious old goat and his pursuit of young women could verge on the sinister. I met one of his young ‘victims’ who told me about a job interview with him turning into a very traumatic experience.

And a second wrote the startling

Writing as one of his 1000s of sexual ‘victims’,
still surviving, terrified as I write for fear he is not yet quite yet dead – the man was an evil, conniving,
ruthless user for his own bottomless ego of all he came into contact with.
Our children – boys and girls are all that much safer for his demise.
And that is just the tip of an iceberg of political and media dirty dealings that reaches into the heart of the broken Britain he has left behind him.
His family will now, unfortunately, reap the rage and revenge of those he destroyed and their much needed justice for his many heinous – still untold – actions.

Six years later I was contacted by a journalist working for ITV who had leads on Freud and looking for more evidence. He had dug up those comments on my blog. Using the magic of the internet, I was able to trace the last commenter and put them in touch, with their permission, with the ITV team.

I also told them an anecdote I myself recalled. I was a young First Year Rep on Dundee University Students Association Council while Clement Freud was Rector. One day the then President of the Students Association, Ian Morris, came out of his office in a terrible mood after a phone call from Freud, saying that Freud had asked him to line up female students for him and was trying to use him as “a pimp”. This was not paedophilia but it was unpleasant – Freud was 35 years older than the students he was targeting.

It then all went quiet for a year before ITV contacted me this morning to tell me the story was running.

It is hard to know what to make of Freud owning a holiday villa close to where Madeleine McCann disappeared. Clement was apparently not in Portugal at the time. When you add in the fact that the McCanns’ sleazy “spokesman”, Clarence Mitchell, works for Freud’s son Matthew, the coincidences do add up. I am not jumping to any conclusions at present. But I found the following fascinating.

Clement Freud assured Kate McCann she had nothing to fear from the cadaver dogs giving a positive response inside the McCann’s hire car, hired after Madeleine “disappeared”. They had no evidential value. “So what are they going to do? One bark for yes, two barks for no?” asked Freud.


397 thoughts on “Clement Freud, My Part in his Downfall

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  • Alan

    Ramadan 2016: Israel ‘cuts off water supply to West Bank’ during Muslim holy month. Tens of thousands of Palestinians left without access to safe drinking water in sweltering heat

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/ramadan-2016-israel-water-west-bank-cuts-off-a7082826.html

    The northern city of Jenin, which has a population of more than 40,000, said its water supplies had been cut in half by Mekorot, Israel’s national water company. Jenin is home to a refugee camp, established in 1953, which contains 16,000 registered refugees.

  • Manda

    I remember the Freud/McCann link and have always wondered but pushed it aside for other thoughts. I doubt we will ever know the truth of that particular case and so, like 9/11 and other such events, I give them only cursory interest these days. I do trust well trained and proven dogs before any human, especially any human put in a dreadful situation, establishment figures and propagandists.
    I linked the video of Eddie and Keela’s (dogs) work in the McCann case elsewhere on this blog. Very revealing.

    The rumours and suspicions on various appalling subjects get so muddled and used for raking in revenue via the media hype, I find it hard to find a way to truth or lies. I am sure the muddling is intentional and for precisely that purpose. So, unspeakable horrors continue right under our noses… a truly sad and depressing indictment of our so called civilized society, it is rotten from the very ‘top’ of the spiders web.

    • michael norton

      Barrel of oil price dropping faster than George Osborne’s chances of remaining.

      • michael norton

        How strange – Orlando

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando:_A_Biography

        Orlando: A Biography is a novel by Virginia Woolf, first published on 11 October 1928. A high-spirited romp inspired by the tumultuous family history of Woolf’s close friend, the aristocratic poet and novelist Vita Sackville-West, it is arguably one of Woolf’s most popular and accessible novels: a history of English literature in satiric form. The book describes the adventures of a poet who changes sex from man to woman and lives for centuries, meeting the key figures of English literary history. Considered a feminist classic, the book has been written about extensively by scholars of women’s writing and gender and transgender studies.

        • Trowbridge H. Ford aka The Biscuit

          Just the kind of diversion you are noted for.

          For those unaware, read the ramble about not forgetting the long-gone al-Hillis.

          The assassination of Jill Cox recalls all the assassinations the UK suffered during The Troubles.

          The last one I recall was that of Ian Gow, Thatcher’s link on the mainland for what was going on in the province.

          Hope it doesn’t start a new series of even bigger troubles.

          • Why be ordinary?

            Actually it does not. The assassination of Ian Gow was a professional hit by people who knew what they were doing. Whatever was behind the tragic death of Jo Cox, it wasn’t anything remotely comparable.

  • Republicofscotland

    Interesting article by a ex-CIA officer on how American foreign policy might just be fuelling the fires of war on foreign policy. As everybody involved in war sees themselves as the good guys.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/346861-cia-terrorism-narrative-amaryllis-fox/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

    I’ve included a link to the Huffington Post which carries a partial account of the article, for those who deem rt.com as biased.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/amaryllis-fox-undercover-cia-video_us_57600d31e4b0e4fe5143afc6

  • michael norton

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/jo-cox-shot-dead-britain-first-denies-involvement-labour-mp-birstall-shooting-stabbing-attack-a7086001.html
    Britain First has denied involvement in the attack on Labour MP Jo Cox in Birstall, west Yorkshire – and the group’s leader has said he would like to see the person who carried it out “strung up by the neck on the nearest lamp post.”

    The 41-year-old politician has died after she was shot and stabbed outside Birstall library, where she was holding an advice surgery for constituents.

    Following reports that a man shouted “Britain First” as he attacked Ms Cox, the group issued a statement describing the claims as hearsay from unconfirmed sources, according to a statement on the political group’s website.

    • michael norton

      “Britain First obviously is NOT involved and would never encourage behaviour of this sort,” said the statement, released before the politician’s death was announced. “As an MP and and a mother, we pray that Jo Cox makes a full recovery.”

      “There is LOTS of use of words such as “apparently” and “allegedly”, said the statement. “That hasn’t stopped the media publishing multiple articles condemning Britain First for somehow being involved.”

      Paul Golding, the group’s leader, said in a video statement: “This is a terrible day for our democracy, for our parliamentary system.”

      “We’re nothing to do with it,” he said. “We hope that this person who carried it out is strung up by the neck on the nearest lamp post. That’s the way we view justice.”

      Mr Golding said the words ‘Britain First’ could have been taken out of context by the media.

      “We’re in the middle of a referendum campaign. What this person said – was he referring to an organisation? Was this person referring to a slogan? Was he just shouting out in the middle of an EU debate: ‘It’s time we put Britain first?’

      “I hear this every day – it’s the name of our party, yes, but I hear Ukip people, I hear Nigel Farage – that’s the kind of language that’s being utilised in the campaign.”

  • fedup

    I found this on the net;

    Britain First is a far right UK group that shares its name with what the attacker reportedly shouted today. The group recently held “knife defence” training courses during a “camping trip” in the Welsh mountains. They told supporters they learned skills like ‘knife defence’ and ‘rough camping’.

    Which gives rise where were the SIS and what were they busy with?

    The successful arrest of yet another fifteen year old boy in east London after an early morning raid on his home and subsequent search of the premises for terroristic material clearly takes a lot of resources and leave the Britain First lot to get on with rough camping training and knife fight courses.

    Egg on the face is the phrase that pops into mind.

    Although it should be pointed that Tommy Mair is a Pathways Day Centre for adults with mental health problems, that is a further indication of the degrees of the success of the care in the community.

    Now all the incompetence and misdirection is to be covered up by the introduction of even more security layers for the politicos whom have been enjoying the total security separation of the house of commons to have a piece of there over in their own places too; a security detail attached to each one of them!!!

    Simples isn’t it?

    • michael norton

      Even if this Tommy Mair was a stark Starer
      he still has a right to engage with his M.P.

      M.P.’s must’n shut themselves away from their electorate.
      If they do Democracy will be doing a cheese roll down a steep hill.

      • michael norton

        This is the people’s Referendum
        and nothing must stop us from casting off the shackles,
        let the E.U. corpse drown.

      • fedup

        steady on the MP concerned was not in her surgery, she may have been on her way to hold her surgery in the library. Thus she was just a commuter like any other in the streets. Fact that a cursory glance in the news media conveys the following;

        A twenty eight year old man has been found dead after he got in touch with the emergency services via his mobile telling them he was hiding in a tree after having ran away from a group of men

        Just a sample of the violence leading to deaths, that is not counting the numbers of the assaults which go unreported and even unregistered by the police. To find these prevalent pervasive levels of violence in our streets in the towns, cities and villages and then to listen to the whines of a few politicos who are pushing to add another layer of security is a bit galling.

        So far as the rest of your points on political point scoring goes, the less you say the better. Let everyone decide for themselves without adding your pennyworth in the midst of murder, mayhem and destruction. In fact you will be pretty surprised at the levels of the distributed wisdom among the “dumb great unwashed”, underestimate that at your peril.

  • Republicofscotland

    “The upper house of the Swiss parliament on Wednesday voted to invalidate its 1992 application to join the European Union, backing an earlier decision by the lower house. The vote comes just a week before Britain decides whether to leave the EU in a referendum.”

    “Twenty-seven members of the upper house, the Council of States, voted to cancel Switzerland’s longstanding EU application, versus just 13 senators against. Two abstained.”

    Switzerland looked to Iceland which also dropped its membership bid in 2015, Iceland didn’t sink under a tide of debt and trade barriers. I wonder is there’s something to be learned from this?

    https://www.rt.com/news/346884-switzerland-eu-membership-application-rejected/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

    • lysias

      Varoufakis recent book, And the Weak Suffer What They Must?: Europe’s Crisis and America’s Economic Future, is scathing on the leadership of the EU.

  • Republicofscotland

    “A staggering 54 countries were ‘involved’ in the Senate report in helping US terror activates around the world. Here are seven governments whose leaders will be having sleepless nights trying to come up with excuses to explain their actions.”

    Here are seven of the most complicit nations involved in torture or rendition. Halfway down rt.com pays tribute to our very own Craig, Craig looks very dapper in the picture supplied.

    https://www.rt.com/news/213483-cia-torture-country-scandal/

  • RobG

    The other dead give away about the murder of Jo Cox being a genuine event is that the GCHQ trolls on this board are notably silent and don’t know how to respond to it.

    With Orlando, on the otherhand, the ‘Muslim terrorist’ narrative was all pre-planned and quite literally within minutes of the ‘massacre’ it was all being rolled out.

    People need to understand that we are governed by criminals and psychopaths.

    • Shatnersrug

      Rob are you saying the the reporting of it as Muslim terror was disingenuous or the actual event was a fabrication? I know there’s a lot of stuff going round the web that claim these events are faked. I’d like to say that I lossed a colleague at the Bataclan shootings who was working for The Eagles of Death Metal that night – he was out front and one of the first to get it, sadly.

      Here’s a fascinating Nafeez Ahmen article on the Orlando shootist, and his father’s links with Washington

      https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-americas-afghan-crusade-came-home-to-orlando-b1b9aba680ad

      • glenn_uk

        Shatnersrug, I am most sorry about your friend who got shot. That is truly terrible.

        There are plenty of people here (RoS, RobG among others) who’ll say you’re lying – nobody was killed. It was all a False Flag, with Crisis Actors, and nobody actually died there at all.

        I wonder if any of them will have the courage to state it here. They’ve said it often enough on older threads. The Charlie Hebdo, Newtown Massacre, and even that runaway dustcart in Glasgow – all False Flag operations. Ask them.

        • Macky

          Nice job Glen, sensitive & classy; you really haven’t got a clue how gormless you really are.

          • glenn_uk

            Strange, Macky – I don’t recall your denouncing the False Flaggers as being insensitive, when they claimed nobody had really died in the Paris massacre, along with numerous others.

            Are you really here to add anything, or to simply hurl insults at people who don’t subscribe to your views?

          • glenn_uk

            Proof by repetition? Highly convincing.

            Not sure you’ve said a single positive word – just your usual trick-bag of crowing about your supposed superiority, your enemy’s lackings, capped off with insults and provocation.

            Nothing new there, then.

    • lysias

      The trolls had already disappeared earlier today, probably as a result of the reports about more of Freud’s victims coming forward. So I’m not sure their disappearance has anything to do with the murder of Jo Cox.

      • Macky

        I think the fact that Craig & this blog were the subject of an article in the Independent that I linked to this morning, has probably caused them to go back under their bridges, as they won’t like the public spotlight falling on here, and attention being drawn to their antics.

        • Resident Dissident

          You on the other hand have no conscience and so have no concern about attention being drawn to your antics.

          If you want to do your research you will find that I have had no qualms in drawing attention to the misdeeds of Liberal MPs long before it was fashionable when I used the handle of “toryboysnevergrowup”

      • RobG

        Lysias, you’re probably right. However (here we go!), the murder of a British MP is unprecedented in modern history (I think the last time it happened was back in the 1920s), and you’d think that the criminal brigade in Cheltenham would have something to say about it.

        Habba and his various aliases have been deafeningly silent.

    • Resident Dissident

      Don’t be so stupid – I would echo her husband in saying that hate doesn’t have a race, religion or creed. Jo Cox was undoubtedly one of the good ones.

  • lysias

    New Telegraph article makes it sound as if the evidence that Clement Freud was not in Portugal at the time of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance is thin. Telegraph: Police were told two years ago about Clement Freud’s Madeleine McCann connection but ‘did nothing’ victim says:

    The Freud family say Sir Clement was in the UK at the time of Madeleine’s disappearance in May 2007.

    Ana Duarte, a psychologist who has lived opposite the house [Freud’s villa in the town in Portugal where Madeleine McCann disappeared] for 20 years, says Freud used to arrive in early spring and would stay for several weeks.

    She told The Telegraph: “I would see him come and go, but we didn’t talk very much. He was a bit of a snob if I’m being honest. What I can’t tell you is whether he was here when Madeleine disappeared. That I just can’t remember.” The villa was sold by the Freud family after Freud’s death in 2009.

    • bevin

      They are something from the era in which hereditary legatee of the Nazis attempted, once again, to conquer Eurasia and subject the entire planet to its rule.
      And Messrs Blair, Straw and all-the Establishment with the exception of a handful of brave men and women, several of whom are now dead- backed them and backs them still.
      HMG, as was recently confirmed, not only assists torturers but insists on being credited for its complicity.
      Refreshing too to see the voracity with which the “freedom starved” emigres from eastern europe, martyrs of soviet ruthlessness, threw themselves into the work of defending our freedoms and values bu renting out torture chambers, cheap and undertaking to ensure the nobody said anything about them to the media.

  • michael norton

    A British member of parliament has died after she was shot and stabbed during an attack in her constituency in northern England on Thursday, British police have said.

    Media reports said Jo Cox, 41, who was a lawmaker for the opposition Labour Party, was attacked as she prepared to hold an advice surgery for constituents in Birstall near Leeds.

    British Prime Minister David Cameron called her death a tragedy, referring to her as a “commited and caring member of Parliament.”

    West Yorkshire Police said a 52-year-old man had been arrested and that a 77-year-old man was also injured in the attack.

    Acting Chief Constable Dee Collins said police believed it was a “lone incident” and were not looking for anyone else in connection with the attack.

    According to reports in the British press, the suspect shouted “Britain First!” as he attacked the anti-Brexit MP, a possible reference to the fringe Britain First far-right nationalist party.

    Nearby resident Graeme Howard told the Guardian he heard the man shout “Britain First” both before the shooting and while he was being arrested.

    “I heard the shot and I ran outside and saw some ladies from the cafe running out with towels,” he told the newspaper. “There was loads of screaming and shouting and the police officers showed up.”

    “He was shouting Britain First when he was doing it and being arrested. He was pinned down by two police officers and she was taken away in an ambulance.”

    Man fired twice

    The Press Association news agency quoted eyewitness Hithem Ben Abdallah as saying Cox got involved in a scuffle between two men.

    Abdallah said one of the men was fighting with Cox and then a gun went off twice and “she fell between two cars and I came and saw her bleeding on the floor.”

    Cox was taken by air ambulance to a nearby hospital and pronounced dead by a doctor an hour after the attack.

    The northern-born MP was a Cambridge University graduate and aid worker before becoming Labour lawmaker for Batley and Spen in 2015. Known for her work on women’s issues, Cox had worked with several charities.

    Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said “the whole of the Labour Party and Labour family – and indeed the whole country – will be in shock at the horrific murder of Jo Cox today.”

    British lawmakers are currently not in parliament ahead of next week’s referendum on whether Britain should remain in the European Union.

    Both the Vote Leave and Britain Stronger in Europe campaigns have suspended activity following Thursday’s attack.
    http://www.france24.com/en/20160616-british-lawmaker-labour-jo-cox-killed-gunman-leeds-uk

    So even the French look up.

    I think I just heard they have suspended campaining – for some time.

    • RobG

      What’s going on in France with regard to English football hooligans is never properly reported in the UK media. It’s all the Russian’s fault, innit (like just about everything is). British hooligans were rioting in Lille last night without a Russian in sight.

      As a Brit expat who lives in France I have to face the wrath of locals who are faced with a bunch of boozed-up, extremely violent ignoramuses, pumped-up with Goebbels-type propaganda.

      This propaganda garbage is pumped out 24/7 by the UK media, and it’s had a large part to play in the violent death today of Jo Fox MP.

  • Monteverdi

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/16/suspect-in-mp-killing-described-as-quiet-polite-and-reserved

    It appears Jo Cox’s murderer was a mentally unstable man who had undergone a number of psychiatric treatments . I find the outpourings of grief as slightly false and reminiscent of a type of ‘ Diana-fest ‘ which this country loves to indulge in with flowers, tears and teddy-bears being laid in front of memorials by those who never heard her name till today . Many will now hijack the death of a little known politician to use her death to further their own political agenda , The suspension of political debate over the EU a typical OTT reaction to a single individuals murder . This murder is already being used to muzzle debate with Polly Toynbee of the Guardian claiming the murder is a result of ‘ whipped-up hate of our political classes ‘ . It appears Jo Cox was not adverse to advocating lethal violence on others being a strong backer of bombing Syria but to her credit abstained when it came to the vote. Now meaningless message of ‘ we must love each-other ‘ are flooding social media ,
    Strangely such sentiments are sparse on the ground when our political classes debate which unfortunates in other lands we wish to bomb . As always a strange hypocrisy descends like an enveloping cloud on this country on days like this .

    • RobG

      Jo Cox was a Blairite, and in that sense many would label her as someone detached from reality (the polite way of saying that someone is a lunatic).

      Whatever the politics, an elected representative was brutally murdered today.

      I’m still waiting for the GCHQ merchants to chime in.

      I’m sure they’ve now figured out a way to tell you that it was all an Islamist/ISIS plot.

      All these GCHQ wankers are going to be brought to trial.

      • Ultraviolet

        Her death is a terrible, shocking event.

        Before she died, I had only heard of her in one context: penning an article attacking Jeremy Corbyn after the local election results.

        http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/06/jeremy-corbyn-leadership-labour-mps-elections

        It was a terrible article, in which she and Neil Coyle blamed Corbyn for not turning around the damage of 20 years of New Labour in six months.

        What has come out since her killing shows that there was a lot more to Cox than this terrible article suggested. She was clearly doing a lot of immensely valuable work that she passionately believed in. But by nailing her colours to the anti-Corbyn mast, she alienated a.lot of Labour supporters, and in my view undermined everything she was trying to achieve.

        But conversely, it has been a reminder to me that those attacking Corbyn, however misguided I think they are, are not just “Red Tories”. Some of them are doing wonderful things that deserve support.

        “Our best never beats our worst. It’s as funny as it’s perverse. We’re born innocent, found guilty, every time.”

        I let Jo Cox’s worst beat her best. Perhaps I should have made a more rounded judgement.

  • Loony

    The tragic and senseless murder of a British MP has led to an understandable suspension to the Referendum Campaign. No doubt people are shocked by this terrible event. Now must surely be a time for sober reflection and contemplation, and to extend sympathies to those most personally affected by this tragedy.

    Alternatively you may take a different view. If so maybe you might like to forward your cv to Reuters

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-forex-idUSKCN0Z202S

  • RobG

    I would guess that the a-holes in Cheltenham have had an emergency meeting about how they will respond to the murder of Jo Cox.

    Cue the trolls…

  • Ben Monad

    If you want to counter an opinion, use facts to undermine the false perception. Progressives tend to have a fear of any scent or anything that could be remotely described as bigotry. Now that’s an irrational fear if ever there were such an animal, and there are . I’m not sure how I could be called Islamaphobic when nothing said indicated fear of Islam, which of course implies irrational or obsessive concern trolling. As the word ‘phobia’ directly implies irrational thoughts in connection with same, it would follow that an opinion which is based upon rational facts is not Islamophobic.

    The scuffle arose over my use of verbage like ‘violence’ and sexually repressive in connection with the Orlando shooter. I stand by my opinion.

    No I am not condemning an entire religion, but if that religion doesn’t want the negative publicity arising from their own extremist sects to attach to them, they need to grandly disassociate themselves from it. Social Media, public demonstrations with some advance press notice. IOW’s they need to organize in order to avoid being generalized.

    I must admit I put that out as bait to start that discussion, alas only one of you took me up on it.

    • Ben Monad

      I suspect Craig must emerge for her. I expect a compulsory nod to Orlando as well.

  • nevermind

    This is off, course, another case of a ‘mad man’ murdering an innocent person. When all of Europe is overflowing with right wing terror, this is another indication that terror can be home grown if you let it fester.

    The Nationalsocialist Underground in Germany has murdered ten people, and the authorities dragging their feet to prosecute, because they are involved in some way.
    In France Marie Le Pen enjoys the best of support and we are sleepwalking into a new awakening of the rabid right.

    • michael norton

      The Referendum should not be hijacked by the death of this woman M.P.
      I doubt if she was as public spirited as it is said she was, Jo would have wanted the Referendum to become meaningless.
      This is the greatest expression of U.K. Democracy in our lifetimes.

    • Tony M

      I’d say too it was another ‘success’ for the mumbo-jumbo and concentrated nonsense that calls itself psychiatry and for the priests and priestesses of this most dangerous cult. It’s highly unlikely that this would have occured without their misguided, if not downright malicious efforts. Another and possibly greater factor will of course be the pharmaceutical cocktail the individual, presently, and over the the recent past few years, has imbibed, from an industry that has killed tens of millions and kills, numerically a parliament full of MPs every single day.

  • michael norton

    This is important.
    The new potash mine is expected to become the most important one of its kind in the World and last for 125 years,
    mostly under the North Sea.
    Boulby potash mine: Worker killed in ‘sudden gas blow-out’
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-36556897
    One man has died in an underground accident at a potash mine in one of Europe’s deepest mines.

    Rescue teams at Boulby potash mine had been dealing with a problem involving the release of gas, Owners ICL UK said.

    The firm said the worker, who has not been named, died following a “sudden and powerful release of gas” in the early hours. There was no explosion.

    Other employees who were in the mine at the time were safely evacuated, a spokesman said.

    The mine makes potash for fertilisers and employs about 1,100 people.

    • Alan

      “The mine makes potash for fertilisers and employs about 1,100 people.”

      Because of its depth, Boulby Mine is used to house the ZEPLIN-III dark matter detector 1,100 metres below the surface in the Boulby Underground Laboratory. It also housed the UK Dark Matter Collaboration, The mine also houses the Directional Recoil Identification From Tracks (DRIFT) detector, a low pressure negative ion time projection chamber (NITPC) designed to detect weakly interacting massive particles (WIMPs) – a prime dark matter candidate. There are currently two DRIFT detectors in operation. DRIFT-IIb, which is located 1100 m underground in the Boulby Underground Laboratory at the Boulby Mine in and DRIFT-IIc, which is located on the surface at Occidental College, Los Angeles, California, USA.

      Work is being carried out at the underground laboratory by the UK Centre for Astrobiology to study extremophile organisms that can survive in a salt-rich environment. The site is also used for testing NASA Mars rovers.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulby_Mine

  • Moley

    I was aware of his reputation as a dirty old groper as he made an extremely unpleasant pass at a friend of mine back in the eighties. She was in her early twenties at the time. I was surprised to hear of the alleged attacks on young children though.

      • Christine

        This is a smokescreen. However dreadful Freud was in that respect, he did NOT go for babies! Madeleine was 3. From what victims have said he did groom, but from an older age. It’s not his MO.

        The McCann stuff here is not relevant, in my view, unless there were others (possibly David Payne, for instance) who befriended him who were in to that. Seems to me he, being OTT libertarian, and a sharp thinker, sided with them and made them feel confident re the dogs, etc. There were government connections and definite cover-ups here. Maybe he was ‘lending his support’. The idea he had something to do with her death is nonsense – IMO only.

        It’ll give Operation Grange the semblance of something else to do before they close the enquiry, despite the fact they were alerted to the possibility at least two years ago!

        • bob klinck

          Drawing conclusions about a lifetime “MO” from a couple of reported cases is preposterous. Do babies or infants even understand when they are being sexually abused, or have the capacity to identify their abusers?

    • Macky

      That was a horrendous read, and an unimaginable terrible situation & ordeal for any parents to experience; I can only wish you the best for the future.

    • John Spencer-Davis

      I just wanted to acknowledge that this has been seen. What a horrifying story. Obviously I have no way at the moment of judging that everything you say is accurate, but if it is then you have been through the most appalling ordeal.

      I am particularly astonished by your allegation that a youth counsellor would countenance an adult male having a sexual relationship with an underage girl. That is scarcely believable.

      Thank you for posting this, I will follow your links and read as much as I can.

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