It’s Still the Iraq War, Stupid. 442


No rational person could blame Jeremy Corbyn for Brexit. So why are the Blairites moving against Corbyn now, with such precipitate haste?

The answer is the Chilcot Report. It is only a fortnight away, and though its form will be concealed by thick layers of establishment whitewash, the basic contours of Blair’s lies will still be visible beneath. Corbyn had deferred to Blairite pressure not to apologise on behalf of the Labour Party for the Iraq War until Chilcot is published.

For the Labour Right, the moment when Corbyn as Labour leader stands up in parliament and condemns Blair over Iraq, is going to be as traumatic as it was for the hardliners of the Soviet Communist Party when Khruschev denounced the crimes of Stalin. It would also destroy Blair’s carefully planned post-Chilcot PR strategy. It is essential to the Blairites that when Chilcot is debated in parliament in two weeks time, Jeremy Corbyn is not in place as Labour leader to speak in the debate. The Blairite plan is therefore for the parliamentary party to depose him as parliamentary leader and get speaker John Bercow to acknowledge someone else in that fictional position in time for the Chilcot debate, with Corbyn remaining leader in the country but with no parliamentary status.

Yes, they are that nuts.

If the fault line for the Tories is Europe, for Labour it is the Middle East. Those opposing Corbyn are defined by their enthusiasm for bombing campaigns that kill Muslim children. And not only by the UK. Both of the first two to go, Hilary Benn and Heidi Alexander, are hardline supporters of Israel.

This was Benn the week before his celebrated advocacy of bombing Syria:

Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn told a Labour Friends of Israel (LFI) lunch yesterday that relations with Israel must be based on cooperation and rejected attempts to isolate the country.

Addressing senior party figures in Westminster, Benn praised Israel for its “progressive spirit, vibrant democracy, strong welfare state, thriving free press and independent judiciary.” He also called Israel “an economic giant, a high-tech centre, second only to the United States. A land of innovation and entrepreneurship, venture capital and graduates, private and public enterprise.”

Consequently, said Benn, “Our future relations must be built on cooperation and engagement, not isolation of Israel. We must take on those who seek to delegitimise the state of Israel or question its right to exist.”

Heidi Alexander actually signed, as a 2015 parliamentary candidate, the “We Believe in Israel” charter, the provisions of which state there must be no boycotts of Israel, and Israel must not be described as an apartheid state.

This fault line is very well defined. The manufactured row about “anti-Semitism” in the Labour Party shows exactly the same split. In my researches, 100% of those who have promoted accusations of anti-Semitism were supporters of the Iraq War and/or had demonstrable links to professional pro-Israel lobby groups. 100% of those accused of anti-Semitism were active opponents of the Iraq War. Never underestimate the Blairite fury at being shown not just to be liars but to be wrong. Iraq is their Achilles heel and they are extremely touchy about it.

No rational person would believe Brexit was Jeremy Corbyn’s fault. No rational person would believe that now is a good moment for the Labour Party to tear itself apart. Extraordinarily, the timing is determined by Chilcot.


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442 thoughts on “It’s Still the Iraq War, Stupid.

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  • Alan

    THE Bitterite coup-plotters weren’t bluffing. On Friday morning, just hours after Britain’s decision to leave the EU saw the pound plunge by over 10 per cent and our prime minister resign, Labour bigwig Margaret Hodge made her move.

    In a letter to Parliamentary Labour Party chair John Cryer, the Barking MP blamed Jeremy Corbyn for the referendum result and demanded a no-confidence vote in their leader.

    The 62 per cent Out vote in Hodge’s own constituency — 10 points above the national share — clearly wasn’t her fault in the slightest.

    Ten more Labour backbenchers joined her by the end of the day. Two of them, Tristram Hunt (Stoke-on-Trent, 69 per cent Out) and Stephen Kinnock (Aberavon, 57 per cent) published pieces on the Guardian website on Saturday calling for Corbyn to go.

    The Observer then reported that Hilary Benn had spent Saturday ringing up fellow shadow cabinet members to rally resistance in the form of mass resignations.

    In response, Corbyn sacked him as shadow foreign secretary early Sunday morning, sparking resignations from several front-bench colleagues.

    If 51 Labour MPs and MEPs tell the party’s general secretary they want Corbyn out, it would trigger a new election — and the bizarre spectacle of both major parties embroiled in leadership contests over the summer.

    For a bunch of Blairites to exploit the current political and economic crisis like this is shocking but not surprising.

    For them, the Out vote wasn’t the fault of David Cameron, who only called the referendum to stop his MPs and members jumping ship to Ukip.

    Neither was it the fault of Boris Johnson, who backstabbed his boss in a stunningly successful bid to boost his flagging career.

    And it wasn’t the fault of Nigel Farage, whose far-right racist rhetoric brought out the nastiest side of human nature — with fear and hatred of “the other” at its core, as seen by the sudden surge in racial abuse up and down Britain.

    No — it was Corbyn wot lost it, according to Benn and Hodge, because he wasn’t enthusiastic enough about EU membership.

    It’s unclear how their plan to replace him with a hard-core Inner will appeal to Labour-voting Outers.

    Corbynistas immediately rallied to his defence, with over 140,000 signing an online petition expressing confidence in their leader in just 24 hours.

    The general secretaries of 12 Labour-affiliated trade unions — including Unite, Unison and the GMB — backed Corbyn in a joint statement, insisting: “The last thing Labour needs is a manufactured leadership row of its own.”

    Even celebrities such as singer Lily Allen spoke up, tweeting: “All you Blairite Labour careerist bastards leave @jeremycorbyn alone. If anyone can lead our country out of the darkness it’s him not you.”

    She makes a good point. Of all our political figures, Corbyn is closest to the public mood on this issue.

    The referendum divided us in many ways — young versus old, rich versus poor, London and Scotland versus almost everywhere else — and we need someone who can speak to both sides.

    We need someone to help make sense of what the hell’s going on.

    We’ve had three months of being terrified by a proliferation of Project Fear — and that was before Jo Cox was assassinated by what appears to have been a neonazi.

    The close vote, a gap of less than 4 per cent, hasn’t resolved anything.

    Tottenham MP David Lammy wants Parliament to ignore the result — and many Out voters are expressing buyer’s remorse, at least if YouTube is to be believed. Over three million people have signed a petition calling for a second referendum.

    And we now have no properly functioning government to take things forward. Cameron refuses to sign Article 50 and start formal divorce proceedings, despite EU pressure, leaving this job to his successor.

    The Tories’ blue-on-blue bloodshed is set to escalate until a new leader emerges victorious in October, leaving parliamentary politics paralysed over the months ahead.

    The precise terms of Brexit will be central to the Tory leadership race, with the two contenders most likely to face party members — Johnson and home secretary Theresa May — certain to offer different departure strategies.

    But why should this be a debate between two right-wing visions? Why can’t we choose a left-wing option — such as economic journalist Paul Mason’s “Progrexit” plan.

    Mason wants to see a new progressive alliance between Labour, the SNP, Plaid Cymru and the Greens to stop Johnson and Farage “turning Britain into a Thatcherite free-market wasteland.”

    He’s calling for a snap election by the end of the year — and it’s hard to see the new Tory leader standing in the way of this. They’ll be desperate to stamp their authority on a split parliamentary party rather than start off as a lame duck.

    Favourite Johnson has already told reporters he’d go to the country straight away. But if instead he tries to wait until after the ongoing boundary review, which promises to give a big advantage to the Tories, it wouldn’t be the first time he’s changed his mind.

    He’ll also want to see what happens next in Scotland, which heavily voted In, and where there are calls for a second referendum on independence.

    Cameron’s resignation has created a power vacuum at the top of British politics in deeply uncertain times.

    Only Corbyn has the authority to step in for the good of the nation. All that’s standing in his way are some of his own MPs — specifically, those who refuse to let the party unite at this critical time.

    Momentum put it best in its member-focused petition — over 40,000 signatures as of Sunday morning — which insists: “With a government in crisis, Labour must unite as a source of national stability.”

    Corbyn’s nuanced approach to the EU has hopefully saved Labour from a Scotland-style haemorrhage of support to Ukip nationalists. But his honesty and authenticity — much loved by the wider public — are now being used against him.

    If his internal enemies really want someone in the party to blame, they could start with outspoken Outers such as Gisela Stuart or John Mann — or Will Straw and his allegedly incompetent leadership of the cross-party Stronger In campaign.

    The truth is, this was an almost impossible campaign for In to win. People vote in their own perceived best interests and Britain’s rich have benefited far more than its poor from both immigration and EU membership.

    Corbyn could hardly have been a more effective campaigner. People generally don’t like being told: “You’re wrong — vote how I tell you to.”

    But logic is not these traitors’ strong suit. All they care about is power — their own personal power — and they’ll do anything to stop Corbyn from reaching Downing Street.

    They thought they had four years to topple him, but the prospect of a general election in less than 12 months has forced their hand.

    Now is the time to mobilise the same movement that swept Corbyn to power a year ago and reclaim the Labour Party once and for all.

    Momentum has called a protest outside Parliament from 6pm tonight while Labour MPs are holding their weekly meeting.

    We need unity as a party and as a country, but Benn, Hodge and the rest offer only division and hatred.

    They will go down in history as greater villains than even Cameron, Johnson and Farage if they sabotage socialism’s historic fight against the rise of the far right.

    https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-cc59-Only-Corbyn-has-the-authority-to-unite-the-nation

  • Tony_0pmoc

    You see the Spanish have just reasserted their Independance From The EU too

    I don’t know which side won – and I can’t really tell the difference… but presumably the winner ..though The Guardian still seems to be disputing it..He almost certainly said it in Spanish..

    I thought what he said was Really good..something like

    “We won the election, and we demand the right to govern,”

    Spanish

    “Hemos ganado la elección , y exigimos el derecho a gobernar”

    Catalan

    ” Hem guanyat l’elecció, i exigim el dret a governar ”

    Well the languages are a bit different – but not as different as Welsh and English…

    and we get the drift.

    The Spanish and The Catalonians want their Independence like Us British.

    That seems quite normal to me.

    Tony

    • bevin

      I think you are wrong Tony, I’m sorry to say: the old Franco-ites won. And the right to govern they are talking about is the right to govern without a majority.
      Couldn’t Lancashire secede and enter a common market with Yorkshire?

  • Tony M

    I think you might be right, Craig, the BBC has gone tonto, it’s full on Get Corbyn! I don’t know if it’ll end with a shoot-out in Newcastle, like.

  • bevin

    The Blairites want Corbyn out because they are his political enemies.
    Any candidate, from among them, to replace him would be very likely to achieve immense popularity in media circles but would have no credibility in the Labour Party. Of course that doesn’t matter to the Blairites who believe that, with the support of the media and lots of money from the Hedge Funds, the multinationals and oligarchs, they really don’t need a party full of stroppy socialists.

    What they are missing is the reality that there is a massive rejection of neo-liberalism. The only surprising thing is that it has taken forty years for Thatcherism to go through its life cycle. It is now withering away and dying. And in need of replacement. There is always an alternative, and one of them would have been given a trial by now had it not been for Blair’s enthusiastic adoption of triangulation which meant that, in 1978, while the whole country waited for something new, thought it had elected someone new, with new ideas and alternative policies, New Labour was merely Thatcherism in a tee shirt, another form of neo-liberalism. One that had jettisoned the old Tory guff that suggested Britain was special and there was a limit to what it would endure from Westminster.

    Blair was a man who had been a bad imitator of bad imitators of second rate American music, Bill Clinton blew him away and the phony Texan, Bush Jr, one of the most charm challenged men in public life, appears to have fascinated him. Probably because he made him feel important.
    Thus it was that 25 wasted years became forty.
    At any rate they are over now. And that means that whoever is going to be PM next is going to have to come up with something different. It matters not at all whether the person be photogenic or clubbable, has style in clothes or is a fount of interesting personal feature stories. What will matter is his, or her, ideas. And what plans are put forward, what priorities, at home and abroad, there are, and, in specific terms, what it is planned to do about poverty, homelessness, unemployment, inequality, the NHS, pensions, long term care facilities, natural monopolies and, above all, the economy.
    A one legged stutterer with halitosis, a french accent and a record of financial failure could win the election if he (or she) puts forward policies that capture the electorate’s imagination.
    It is one of the constants in politics that people always assume that change cannot really take place: to win an election someone just like Cameron or Blair, spouting neo-liberalism, must be chosen. And Hilary Benn, Tom Watson et al fit the bill well. Unfortunately what they don’t have is new ideas, an alternative way for the country. So they can’t win. Whether Corbyn could I’m unsure but one thing is certain if he runs on appealing policies adding up to a new deal for the country he could win very easily.
    And the Blairites know that. It scares them, because their raison d’etre is to stamp out socialism and keep neo-liberalism going. And if the Labour party has to be destroyed to do it, as can be seen, they are ready for that.

    • bevin

      I should add that most of these Blairites, for all their talk of winning elections, have just inherited safe seats, most of them built up over decades of hard work by dedicated socialists, the way that Blair and Mandelson, both of whose old constituencies voted heavily to leave completely disregarding the advice of their former MPs, did.
      Many of them got heir seats by sharp practices in London, disqualifying local males from running, for example and mush worse. Mandelson devoted his life to weeding out socialists MPs, Corbyn was one of the few who survived.

    • ej

      Perhaps this isn’t so much sbout new ideas, but looking at old ideas that worked. How do you revive them in this time and place?

  • Tony_0pmoc

    And then they suddenly realised That The Bastard Wasn’t Fucking Lying

    What Do We Do Now SIR???

    Tony

  • Tony M

    There is no doubt in my mind that some of (the many) of the negative things the EU has been doing, from neo-liberalism, blithering Atlanticism, to stirring a hornet’s nest in Ukraine (though Britain has a long history of doing exactly that since the 1940s, with some real unsavoury types), sanctions against Russia (on the most fantastic and specious grounds) and antagonising Russia and the rest of the world for a hobby, have been at U-KOK’s urging, and the EU in getting rid of us/them, gladly, without actually having to kick them out, is the start of the process of cleaning up their act and their house. Expunging the poison.

  • Richard

    Why only “The Iraq War, stupid?” Since Labour got elected in ’97 successive governments have dropped bombs on all kinds of people, murdering them, maiming them, damaging them for ever, destroying national infrastructure and private property and all for absolutely nothing.

    The best thing that could now happen following the recent independence referendum is a complete overhall of the British political class, with new parties following peaceful, non-interventionist policies. Bar a few honourable exceptions, most of the troughers at the top are either homicidal maniacs or their ‘yes’-men.

  • Dave

    Some of the fears expressed about Out is that we will be punished by the EU. But this is hardly likely because our Brexit will be a cause for their celebration and a real opportunity to reform the EU. Remember, as stated by Sir Humphry on Yes Minister, we only joined to wreck it, based on an historic but outdated policy of opposing a united Europe!

    And it worked, because our policy of an ever expanding EU, including Turkey, with them all joining the Euro was madness, as is our, on behalf of the US/neo-con, promotion of war in Middle East and sanctions against Russia that has led to the migrant crisis.

    And I think it ambition enough to keep a UK and Ireland (North and South) Union together as opposed to a European Union, which has become an imperial project too far.

  • Emanuel

    The question remains, how many of the present 228 Labour MPs (most of whom are friends of Israhell) are prepared to go along with the scheming of the hardcore treasonous Blairites?

  • RobG

    Osborne speaking as I type:

    “We should only trigger article 50 when a plan is in place. Some firms are pausing their decisions to invest and hire people. The delay in triggering article 50 will help.”

    Ye Brexiteers have been scuppered by buccaneers, unwashed with a touch of scurvy, reaching on the starboard tack, to lay off the Windward Channel, a cunning plan and the urge to attack. The prisoners walk the plank, again, sharks circle, vultures hover, the chains rattle, down deep to Davy Cameron’s locker.

    • michael norton

      I do not think now is the time for
      HS2
      Hinkley Point C
      Heathrow runway 3
      re-newed Trident, based in Scotland
      all-out Fracking

      time to save some pounds, we’ll be needing them
      for paying redundancy money.

      • michael norton

        Apparently the much loved Landrover Defender, recently had to be ditched
        because it did not fit with the modern E.U. regulations.

        I hope they have not yet dumped the dies.
        There used to be a Landrover Defender, known in the trade as “Rest of the World”

        this was basic old fashioned Landrover as sold to Africa, Central/South America/Asia.
        Just the sort of thing construction/forestry/agriculture
        needed, yet the fucking E.U. regulations have this year brought it to a close.

        • michael norton

          As the pound has plummeted
          and as we no-longer need to apply the hated E.U. regulations
          we may be able to salvage some of our steel works.

          • deepgreenpuddock

            Re steel works
            I think you will find it was the Tories who scuppered the measures required to protect steel production from Chinese dumping.

        • David Wilson

          Michael,

          I’ve spent 20 years travelling the world making documentary films for such people as BBC Natural History etc and in my experience throughout Africa, South America, Australia etc they all use Toyota’s.

          Sorry to burst your bubble cause I love the Defender and have one myself.

      • Alcyone: Britain means Business

        I could agree with some of the former part of your statement, the latter part….you’re not an entrepreneur are you?

        If there were ever a time when Entrepreneur Britain needed to come out and play (and the Government support a thousand initiatives), it’s now.

        It’s time to bring back 100% First Year Capital Allowances for example, but that would just be a tiny beginning. In this dis-intermediated Internet Age, our young people need a radically different type of education and more and more need to be empowered and supported, for example, towards web-based-businesses. I hate the term e-commerce, but so be it! Thank God we kept the Pound!

  • John Spencer-Davis

    “That illustrates the deep hatred and contempt for democracy among western elites, so deep-seated they can’t even perceive it when it’s in front of their eyes. You punish people severely if they vote the wrong way in a free election.”

    – Noam Chomsky, interview with Michael Shank (2007), discussing Hamas.

    The people have voted for Brexit but it looks like they will not be permitted to have it.

    The membership have voted for Corbyn but it looks like they will not be permitted to have him.

    Utter hatred and contempt for democracy.

    • Alcyone: Britain means Business

      That’s much better JSD; you seem far more equal to the challenge this Monday morning!

      But let’s not get too excited too quickly. After all, the only one, it is said, that like’s a change, is a wet-baby.

      People all over the world are actually hankering for change and it’s coming. Boris Johnson is far more human than the Cameraon Robot, I’d like to believe far less elitist and he’s just announced that Project Fear is over. So, let’s wait and see, shall we? Meantime, as my good friend Habby has been saying, if you think positively, you are more likely to help positive outcomes. It’s the way that Human Consciousness works, don’t you think, Doc? (I know you aren’t one though, as you have acknowledged). But just think of how people are going to struggle, psychologically I mean, and I mean only that. But that should mean more work for you and less time over here? 😉
      It’s a Win-Win 🙂 is it not?

  • Rosy Curtis

    Stunned by the mutiny of these Labour…”LABOUR” ???….MPs….Is anyone representing US…the electorate? They are treating us …and our choices…with UTTER CONTEMPT. I for one…if Jeremy is ousted in this spiteful, self-serving, hypocritical , completely dis loyal manner….will leave the Labour Party and will NEVER….EVER vote Labour again. Totally disgusted and bloody angry.

    • deepgreenpuddock

      May not be the time to abandon ‘the labour party’ or at least what emerges as a radical analysis and opposition to neoliberalism. I think we are seeing a real fragmentation of the political system. The Blairites behind this are being flushed out. The Brexit vote is a rejection of neoliberalism and Blairism and Cameronism although the discontent about equality and the erosion of public services for profit has been hijacked by truly sordid charlatans and snake oil salesmen like Johnson and Gove and Fox. I think the struggle has begun. The shots are being aimed wide and high at the moment, but this phoney position will soon coalesce into something more serious.
      Douglas Carswell is an outer in UKIP but he has more in common with Corbyn than Farage.
      Also i intend to put a tenner on Teresa May for the Cameron replacement.

      • Johnstone

        But was the result an ideological backlash against neoliberalism, loss of public services and privatization of public assets? Good information is a rare commodity. If campaigns and the media influenced this outcome the most then Brexit probably reflects a swing towards nationalist and racist ideologies not and socialist?

    • Alan

      Hard luck! It says:

      5 people have already supported Claire Nadin’s petition.

      We need to check it meets the petition standards before we publish it.

      Please try again in a few days. (When we get a functioning government of some kind)

      • Alcyone: Never a better time to get Real

        LOL!!!

        Am surprised, very surprised, that Fred is propagating Project Fear. Though, I grant that people will be people and probability insists that random events will continue.

  • andy

    Heidi Alexander I’d my local mp and I thought she had more integrity than that. Shame on you Heidi

  • Heiroglyph

    You wonder exactly what the long-term plan is, for the Blair-ites. They are currently disgracing themselves, publicly, and without shame, and appear simply not to care how it looks to Labour supporters. Who then do they think is going to vote for them? Let’s be clear, if Corbyn is axed, there are literally millions of Labour supporters who will just say ‘fuck off’ to his replacement, who will under no circumstances vote for the Nu Lab candidate, in the next election, or any other. Personally, I’d just switch my vote to Green, or some tiny socialist party, and laugh when Labour gets less than 100 seats. Does this scenario trouble the Blairites at all? It should, as it’s the most plausible.

    Tom Watson has always been an eel, so it’s no surprise he’s playing both sides. He should bear in mind he has a) no chance of being leader, b) a big chance of losing the next DP election. You wonder at his motivations too. Soon he will be yesterday’s man, and will hopefully pause to reflect on his own decisions.

    Jezza may survive. If he doesn’t, he should split the party, and create a proper Labour Party. That’s another scenario the Blair-ites should worry about, but seemingly don’t.

    • Clark

      …if Corbyn is axed, there are literally millions of Labour supporters who will just say ‘fuck off’ to his replacement, who will under no circumstances vote for the Nu Lab candidate, in the next election, or any other. Personally, I’d just switch my vote to Green…

      Yep, I’m one of those.

      • Meg

        Yes I would not vote for any replacement. I would want Jeremy to carry on with a new party and I would follow him

  • Peter Francis

    This is rubbish, end to end rubbish, ignores all history prior to liberation of the Iraqi people by coalition, comments based on hindsight and support for facist Palestine.

    • Jams O'Donnell

      I suggest you have a long hard look at the history of Israel before you start talking of Palestinian “fascism’.However, I doubt that you are able to bring any sort of realistic assessment into such an exercise.

  • Meg

    Absolutely on the money. Bunch of self serving cowardly wastes of good oxygen. To put their own skins ahead of the rights of a nation whose taxes have looked after them and their 2nd homes so well is almost criminal and definitely immoral

  • Peter Simmons

    Blaming Corbyn for not making voters vote the way the Blairite Labour Party wanted is clear indication these people are not democrats, and don’t understand democracy. They think the voters are there to be manipulated, for which they need a strong leader who bulies and badgers, it’s all they know. Their arrogance consigns the electorate to a bit part, which even then the bastards won’t learn and perform on cue. Not even Corbyn could have persuaded voters the EU neoliberal oligarchy was god for them, and they remembered Corbyn being opposed to it all his life. He lost support by cravenly allowing himself to be forced into denying his convictions.

  • Rob Pettitt

    Well said, Craig Murray. I am afraid there may be more to come. Please see below. If anyone in authority suggests running an anti-terror exercise in London on 7th July 2016 we must watch out. It may suddenly go live like the last one did. Exactly when will Corbyn be addressing parliament?

    “These are dangerous times. The New World Order puppeteers have suffered an unexpected setback, a bit like when we elected the one I hope they do not control directly – Jeremy Corbyn. History shows that they do not just lie down and die, but they will attempt a major correction of public opinion in their favour. I fear the timing will probably be to coincide with the publication of the Chilcot report, to create the maximum distraction from it’s findings. I doubt that the turmoil in the Labour party currently being orchestrated and promoted by the likes of the BBC is the main distraction. On recent form we must expect a high profile contrived ‘terrorist’ incident with ideal timing, which we must all be prepared to recognise as a false flag. The BBC will immediately read out a prepared statement to tell us it was carried out by a loner linked by significant (fabricated) evidence to the contrived current bogeyman, Islamic State. We must not be fooled as we have in the past, most notably on 9/11. ‘New Labour’ is dead. We must bury it quickly.

    They usually choose an auspicious memorable date for a reminder of who is boss. The moment the British public will open their newspapers to read Chilcot’s mild rebuke of Blair and Straw will be the morning of 7/7. You know, the day in 2005 when some apparent Muslim terrorists managed to plant military demolition charges under the floor of a train while riding as passengers! The likes of Sadiq Khan and Ken Livingstone are of course blind to the abundant evidence of the use of false flags to manage public opinion. Even the ancient Romans did it!”

    Posted on Jeremy Corbyn’s Facebook page 27th June 2016

  • Andrew Seal

    Spot on Craig!
    Was searching for some journalist somewhere to have joined up the dots and there are none!

  • nevermind

    Cameron will attend a European summit called by Tusk, to set out a frame work for the EU’s future tomorrow, he will stay for the day and for dinner in the evening.
    I expect that he will ensure the On Wednesday the 27 others are going to meet, Cameron will be back in Britain as they discuss whether there should be a reform of the EU, or a new EU contract drafted as some member states have mentioned. The EU commission, as well as Merkel’s Government do not want to shake up the system if reforms and changes are subsequently quashed by national Governments. (a feeble first argument, imho, an indication that she is also partial to vested pressures).

    freely translated from Tusk’s position

    Merkel, on the other hand, is not in a hurry, she says that is unreal to expect the UK to leave instantly, one should not get into a heated situation over it, as long as it will eventually happen.
    there is more but I got some other stuff to do.

    Hollande is probably still cut up about having to share positions with Britain since it joined, it lingers, but that’s just a guess.

    http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/brexit-folgen-hollande-und-renzi-gegen-merkel-a-1099993.html

  • Mark Golding

    Why Corbyn and not Cameron – – is this a fundamental question? It is and it requires a fundamental answer.

    David Cameron must be judged by his actions which can be difficult simply because I know heads of her majesty’s government ie PM’s for instance are trained to charm and trained to seduce by MI5. Mr Cameron has been trained to seduce through the unhealthy revolving door between the state and intelligence services.

    Jeremy Corbyn vehemently opposed Britain’s involvement in the Iraq War, the Libya war, the Syrian war and essentially military non-interventionism to boot including the tactic of humanitarian intervention. Jeremy walks the path of the faithful, the path of honesty. He has been tested.

    Testing has proved the British bureaucratic system is unsound because good people and politicians are subverted to deceive. We can certainly analyse deception esp. in foreign policy. Take for example the well known figure Saddam Hussein. Whether he was good or bad is probably forgotten now yet at some stage Britain was cooperating actively with Saddam when he was fighting Iran with our WMD, our diplomatic support, our political cover and more until Britain and PM Blair decided to eliminate Saddam, which meant wiping out the Iraq government, thousands of people from the Baath party and thousands of Iraq servicemen which were part of the Sunni elite of the state, all thrown on the street; nobody thought about them and now they are filling the ranks of ISIL.

    PM Cameron decided to eliminate Gaddafi and disintegrate all the state institutions leaving a vacuum, resulting in civil war and a flow of terrorists and arms to Syria. In Syria this Conservative government formalised and constitutionalised advice from the intelligence services and military top brass to train the so called ‘moderate’ opposition groups who then defected to ISIS or Daesh complete with high tech US weapons and Saudi dollars. This became a proxy war to oust Assad, a war that displaced millions of Syrians, innocent families entitled to decide who should govern their country and how and by what principles. A million Syrian refugees joined the already running scared from Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and centralised Africa. Families with children who witnessed terrorists burning people alive, drowning them alive, decapitation and destruction of homes and places of worship.

    If Britain had not provided support these atrocities would not have taken place. The conspiracy was to oust Assad by defeating his army and then only later think about how to eliminate the terrorist fighters, an impossible task.

    I have learned the bitter truth that Britain is providing assistance to these terrorists by training them to coordinate by using high technology such as encrypted communications, satellite data and data streams from aerial reconnaissance. To suggest Assad is destroying his own people is anti-Syria propaganda from known units within the British military intelligence.

    A leader like Jeremy Corbyn must have something in common with every citizen in Britain, the love of our homeland and the love of it’s common people. That also means the love of of our military, the 179 brave men and women who lost their lives in the illegal Iraq war and the thousands injured trying to rebuild their lives with missing limbs, hearing, touch and sight.

    A true leader must respect sovereignty and not attempt the resolution of internal political issues through color revolution, through coup d’etat, through unconstitutional removal of power. A true leader will ensure his diplomats are astute, expedient and shrewd not cunning, sly and underhanded.

    That leader could be Jeremy if we support him.

    • michael norton

      Did the inhabitants of The Falkland Islands
      get to vote in the U.K. Referendum?

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