After six solid months of co-ordinated allegation from the mainstream media allied to the leadership of state security institutions, not one single scrap of solid evidence for Trump/Russia election hacking has emerged.
I do not support Donald Trump. I do support truth. There is much about Trump that I dislike intensely. Neither do I support the neo-liberal political establishment in the USA. The latter’s control of the mainstream media, and cunning manipulation of identity politics, seeks to portray the neo-liberal establishment as the heroes of decent values against Trump. Sadly, the idea that the neo-liberal establishment embodies decent values is completely untrue.
Truth disappeared so long ago in this witch-hunt that it is no longer even possible to define what the accusation is. Belief in “Russian hacking” of the US election has been elevated to a generic accusation of undefined wrongdoing, a vague malaise we are told is floating poisonously in the ether, but we are not allowed to analyse. What did the Russians actually do?
The original, base accusation is that it was the Russians who hacked the DNC and Podesta emails and passed them to Wikileaks. (I can assure you that is untrue).
The authenticity of those emails is not in question. What they revealed of cheating by the Democratic establishment in biasing the primaries against Bernie Sanders, led to the forced resignation of Debbie Wasserman Shultz as chair of the Democratic National Committee. They also led to the resignation from CNN of Donna Brazile, who had passed debate questions in advance to Clinton. Those are facts. They actually happened. Let us hold on to those facts, as we surf through lies. There was other nasty Clinton Foundation and cash for access stuff in the emails, but we do not even need to go there for the purpose of this argument.
The original “Russian hacking” allegation was that it was the Russians who nefariously obtained these damning emails and passed them to Wikileaks. The “evidence” for this was twofold. A report from private cyber security firm Crowdstrike claimed that metadata showed that the hackers had left behind clues, including the name of the founder of the Soviet security services. The second piece of evidence was that a blogger named Guccifer2 and a websitecalled DNC Leaks appeared to have access to some of the material around the same time that Wikileaks did, and that Guccifer2 could be Russian.
That is it. To this day, that is the sum total of actual “evidence” of Russian hacking. I won’t say hang on to it as a fact, because it contains no relevant fact. But at least it is some form of definable allegation of something happening, rather than “Russian hacking” being a simple article of faith like the Holy Trinity.
But there are a number of problems that prevent this being fact at all. Nobody has ever been able to refute the evidence of Bill Binney, former Technical Director of the NSA who designed its current surveillance systems. Bill has stated that the capability of the NSA is such, that if the DNC computers had been hacked, the NSA would be able to trace the actual packets of that information as those emails travelled over the internet, and give a precise time, to the second, for the hack. The NSA simply do not have the event – because there wasn’t one. I know Bill personally and am quite certain of his integrity.
As we have been repeatedly told, “17 intelligence agencies” sign up to the “Russian hacking”, yet all these king’s horses and all these king’s men have been unable to produce any evidence whatsoever of the purported “hack”. Largely because they are not in fact trying. Here is another actual fact I wish you to hang on to: The Democrats have refused the intelligence agencies access to their servers to discover what actually happened. I am going to say that again.
The Democrats have refused the intelligence agencies access to their servers to discover what actually happened.
The heads of the intelligence community have said that they regard the report from Crowdstrike – the Clinton aligned private cyber security firm – as adequate. Despite the fact that the Crowdstrike report plainly proves nothing whatsoever and is based entirely on an initial presumption there must have been a hack, as opposed to an internal download.
Not actually examining the obvious evidence has been a key tool in keeping the “Russian hacking” meme going. On 24 May the Guardian reported triumphantly, following the Washington Post, that
“Fox News falsely alleged federal authorities had found thousands of emails between Rich and Wikileaks, when in fact law enforcement officials disputed that Rich’s laptop had even been in possession of, or examined by, the FBI.”
It evidently did not occur to the Guardian as troubling, that those pretending to be investigating the murder of Seth Rich have not looked at his laptop.
There is a very plain pattern here of agencies promoting the notion of a fake “Russian crime”, while failing to take the most basic and obvious initial steps if they were really investigating its existence. I might add to that, there has been no contact with me at all by those supposedly investigating. I could tell them these were leaks not hacks. Wikileaks. The clue is in the name.
So those “17 agencies” are not really investigating but are prepared to endorse weird Crowdstrike claims, like the idea that Russia’s security services are so amateur as to leave fingerprints with the name of their founder. If the Russians fed the material to Wikileaks, why would they also set up a vainglorious persona like Guccifer2 who leaves obvious Russia pointing clues all over the place?
Of course we need to add from the Wikileaks “Vault 7” leak release, information that the CIA specifically deploys technology that leaves behind fake fingerprints of a Russian computer hacking operation.
Crowdstrike have a general anti-Russian attitude. They published a report seeking to allege that the same Russian entities which “had hacked” the DNC were involved in targeting for Russian artillery in the Ukraine. This has been utterly discredited.
Some of the more crazed “Russiagate” allegations have been quietly dropped. The mainstream media are hoping we will all forget their breathless endorsement of the reports of the charlatan Christopher Steele, a former middle ranking MI6 man with very limited contacts that he milked to sell lurid gossip to wealthy and gullible corporations. I confess I rather admire his chutzpah.
Given there is no hacking in the Russian hacking story, the charges have moved wider into a vague miasma of McCarthyite anti-Russian hysteria. Does anyone connected to Trump know any Russians? Do they have business links with Russian finance?
Of course they do. Trump is part of the worldwide oligarch class whose financial interests are woven into a vast worldwide network that enslaves pretty well the rest of us. As are the Clintons and the owners of the mainstream media who are stoking up the anti-Russian hysteria. It is all good for their armaments industry interests, in both Washington and Moscow.
Trump’s judgement is appalling. His sackings or inappropriate directions to people over this subject may damage him.
The old Watergate related wisdom is that it is not the crime that gets you, it is the cover-up. But there is a fundamental difference here. At the centre of Watergate there was an actual burglary. At the centre of Russian hacking there is a void, a hollow, and emptiness, an abyss, a yawning chasm. There is nothing there.
Those who believe that opposition to Trump justifies whipping up anti-Russian hysteria on a massive scale, on the basis of lies, are wrong. I remain positive that the movement Bernie Sanders started will bring a new dawn to America in the next few years. That depends on political campaigning by people on the ground and on social media. Leveraging falsehoods and cold war hysteria through mainstream media in an effort to somehow get Clinton back to power is not a viable alternative. It is a fantasy and even were it practical, I would not want it to succeed.
Here is the moment that the majority of nations voted to ban nuclear weapons forever via the UN.
Of course those who possess nukes at the moment, Britain, US, Israel, France, China, India and Pakistan didn’t even bother sending a representative to vote.
The Netherland’s which is home to American nukes, voted against the proposal, and only Singapore abstained.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TimMilesWright/status/883339959117258757/video/1
There’s hope for mankind yet.
The future status of UK influence, is clear for all to see.
https://mobile.twitter.com/taxbod/status/883423228823252994/photo/1
http://www.jonathan-cook.net/2017-07-07/wonder-woman-is-a-hero-only-the-military-industrial-complex-could-create/
Especially this part which hints at the concerted nature of propaganda but more disturbingly the time scales involved. No wonder the intelligence agencies were pissed, these scripts were prepared years in advance:
And in an even more disturbing, if now outdated, parallel, given the film’s insistent identity politics, is Wonder Woman – the Amazonian who brings peace through overpowering military violence – a stand-in for Hillary Clinton? When the movie was in production, the film makers must have assumed it would be released as Clinton was enjoying her early months in office as the first female U.S. president.
The use of Wonder Woman to justify Clinton’s well-documented blood lust–the woman who laughed as “our rebels” murderously sodomized Libya’s Col Gaddafi, saying: “We came, we saw, he died” – would have proved timely had the U.S. election turned out differently.
It appears that much of what poses are popular culture is in fact deep-state-sponsored propaganda. This is not exactly news to people on this board, though perhaps the true extent is a somewhat surprising. I entirely avoid Netflix documentaries, for one. Fake News.
Truly, even the ‘wisest’ and most cynical among us are still manipulated, every day of our lives. And spied on, to a degree that speaks of an almost sexual voyeurism. Did someone say The Matrix?
Russians offered Trump’s son dirt on Hilary;
http://www.thedailybeast.com/nyt-russians-offered-trumps-son-dirt-on-hillary
This interested me in relation to pre-election events.
And Grenfell. Has the public discussion has been more seamlessly hi-jacked by ensconced journalists? Or by the Astroturfing of social media? Who has the money to pay for that?
And also why the ‘Left’ is apparently once again distracted and on the defensive with exactly the same tactics as in the election campaign.
And particularly how the Trump Identity is being used as a cover-all mask for the sins of state. ‘Respected media’ are casually saying Trump did this or Trump did that as if he was capriciously wielding the nations military, energy and banking interests instead of being wielded by them.
You conclude your book ironically with a Koch maxim: “playing it safe is slow suicide.” How does that apply to those who support a robust, non-plutocratic society?
I ended the book that way because I understand the many pressures that lead people not to act on their anxiety over what they are seeing unfold in Washington and so many states. Union leaders have fiduciary responsibilities that make bold action risky. Nonprofits have boards of directors to answer to. Young faculty must earn tenure. People in public institutions worry about their next appropriations. Parents have to budget their time. And so on. We tell ourselves, “Well, if it were that serious, surely others would be doing something about it.” So, I wanted to alert people that what is happening now is radically new — and designed to be permanent. We may not get another chance to stop it.
Buchanan and Koch came up with the kind of strategy now in play precisely because they knew that the majority, if fully informed, would never support what they seek.
Having said that, though, I also believe that panic is the last thing we need. There is great strength to be found in the simple truth that Buchanan and Koch came up with the kind of strategy now in play precisely because they knew that the majority, if fully informed, would never support what they seek. So, the best thing that those who support a robust, non-plutocratic society can do is focus on patiently informing and activating that majority. And reminding all Americans that democracy is not something you can just assume will survive: It has to be fought for time and again. This is one of those moments.
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/41206-misinforming-the-majority-a-deliberate-strategy-of-right-wing-libertarians
“And also why the ‘Left’ is apparently once again distracted and on the defensive with exactly the same tactics as in the election campaign.”
The BBC’s Westminster Hour on radio 4 last night had such an operatic cast of Wagnerian Right-Wingers, Rees-Mogg,and other vile creatures of the night, like Vince Cable that I was thankful both my ears are currently blocked by a sort of hay-fever summer cold. yet I could hear the greasy gist of their ultra Tory words peeking through the silence.
My God, I have become accustomed to the broad-minded intellects of the Muslim female presenters Ritula Shah and others, but Carolyn Quinn was wading into high Tory propaganda with thigh-length fishing boots.
The overall effect reminded me of Craig’s recent assertion that the right wing MSM will move in quickly to extinguish the temporary airing during the election of Corbyn’s alternative politics.
Craig has been at his best ever in the last few posts, summarising the Tory lies about Labour spending, which was caused by the explosion of Thatcher banking de-regulation, and now busting the lies about Russia hacking Clinton. These are all seminary essays on modern politics.
Grenfell is about to shake the foundations of Westminster political whitewash. For the first time I can remember, popular opposition will block the selection of a legal stitch-up. Economising on the provision of basic services for the poor is totally endemic in post Thatcher UK. It’s now going to get a good beating-up.
We all know the arguments that corporations will wheel out to prevent open disclosure of the facts in the Grenfell Tower fire investigation, commercial privacy being at the top of the list. A bent lawyer, and by definition all lawyers are bent because they are capable of defending either side of any case and they are not paid to defend justice, will have this enquiry stitched up and mothballed in a few weeks.
This particular one stitched it up on the first day he opened his mouth by declaring that he had no intention of satisfying the demands for truth from the victims and distressed residents. Nobody doubted his ability or his intention to protect Kensington Council from accusations of murder of manslaughter.
Let me remind you of who now owns Rover cars. China. Unlike the penny-pinching Capitalist thatcher system, in China a nationalised bank will lend a company the funds to get things right. Rover managers were sleeping with eachothers wives in a sleazy circle of corruption. They refused to listen to their engineers who raised intrinsic design problems. They refused to take the blame for their own management failure.
The problem at Grenfell is probably not with the Council, it is probably with the Thatcherised economy in which we live. The Grenfell enquiry by a lawyer appointed by Mrs May is never going to expose the glaring faults of the UK economic system. Never in your life. Already the government has started to shunt the blame onto the residents by threatening to prosecute and investigate the residents’ immigration status :- It’s their fault for choosing to come and live here.
What’s to expect of the domestic politics of a country whose foreign politics has been to drive thirty years of continuous war against the Muslims of Asia, Africa and the Middle east? Grenfell Tower can’t be ignored like the photos of the destruction in Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria. it’s on the main road from Heathrow Airport. It’s one huge middle finger up to the Red and Blue Tory establishment. You can’t even get basic worker housing right in your capital city. Go to Istanbul. Go to any city in the world and see how it can be done. Pissups in breweries? No. deep-seated criminal mismanagement and false appropriation of communal resources by a corrupt managerial class.
Are you suggesting that Rover or MG make good cars these days or that China is free of corruption and poor construction standards and H&S disasters?
I concede that there does appear to be an increasing tendency to pass the buck and to rely on others without applying one’s own mind to the issue in front. Partly this is because the world has become more complex, but its also cowardice. We still have to take responsibility. If, as some on the right seek, we deregulate the nanny state we should increase personal responsibility in equal measure. How to do this could be difficult and unfortunately we can’t rely on good character alone. For every principled and admirable Rees-Mogg there are a dozen spivs, who lack his integrity.
” The mainstream media are hoping we will all forget their breathless endorsement of the reports of the charlatan Christopher Steele, a former middle ranking MI6 man with very limited contacts that he milked to sell lurid gossip to wealthy and gullible corporations. I confess I rather admire his chutzpah. ”
This is fascinating. MI6 has trained a junior employee to use classified and illegally obtained information not to expose wrong-doing but to pervert the course of justice. It is not Christopher Steele’s Chutzpah, rather MI6’s.
As many who contribute to this blog and Craig himself can testify MI6 is ready and willing to share completely fabricated non-evidence to third party agents in order to set them on a false trail, starting with the damning false evidence provided by MI5 or MI6. The proper legal term for this is perverting the course of justice.
Evidence against me taken in my case from my ex-wife was dressed up and offered to third party agents in the form of Muslim spies associated with various UK mosques. The purpose of these false accusations was to sow suspicion about my credibility as a Muslim and initiate a procedure for testing my credentials. Obviously the mosques concerned were, like the Guardian, not going to dismiss evidence submitted by none other than the UK government itself.
The process once initiated makes it impossible to distinguish between fiction and reality because an institution like the UK government is intrinsically trusted by those whose hearts contain grains of racial malice.
My point is that government lies and chutzpah make an exceedingly toxic mix, one which much to his chagrin the respected Trowbridge, Craig and others here have been unable to shift in many years of protests.
Chutzpah on its own can be admired but government lies take a lot of time to forgive.
Just the usual question-begging. No mention of Trump and company wanting to lock up Hillary as some kind of criminal as soon as he became POTUS , but nothing has been done about it thought he has been in office almost six months.
Most controversial investigations take several years if ever to determine, like the character of charlatan Joe McCarthy, Iran-Contra, and the causes of 9/11. And assassinations are now rarely solved, like the killing of Willie McRae, Olof Palme, and Gareth Williams.
So why nothing about Willie’s demise which you must have discussed often with SNP leader Gordon Wilson? Looks like it is connected to Michael Bettaney’s spying for the Soviets worried about a surprise non-nuclear attack by NATO from Scotland.
Willie’s murder is certainly a stink with a secret.
Trowbridge Not forgetting Stephen Ward and Christopher Marlowe.Killed by persons unknown.
On a point of information, Stephen Ward killed himself. It is therefore incorrect to say that he was killed by persons unknown (he was, surely, known to himself).
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/bombshell-new-report-shows-guccifer-2-0-dnc-files-copied-locally-not-hacked/
In case you haven’t seen this: ”Guccifer 2.0” not a ‘hack’ from afar it would appear. (What a shock)
Development on my twitter account.
https://twitter.com/_O_O_O_II
interesting? Relevant? …Probably not.
ps, You have to be logged in to see reply tweets that shows interesting stuff (to me) Illustrate the forming of hegemony.
Not if I have anything to say about it. The idea is to smash the state, break hegemony into tiny bits. Not bend over for it.
Oooh yes. Let’s smash the state…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r5f2jfa29w
The hacking fantasy was still played for this morning as radio 4 reacted to Putin’s denial, voiced to Trump in Hamburg, these stooges just don’t want to let go of false news and lying.
Everyone “hacks”.
None even close to USA government (ok proportionally maybe uk does more, but they spend double on healthcare & worse outcomes)…
? ..Im sure there is some analogy in that.
…Whatever.
Apparently the Trump-Putin meeting went well.
Yes, noticed that.
This is great. There is no investigation going on. There’s only the generation of media hysteria. The American public is being prepared for another neo-con war just as they were worked into a frenzy in the year before the invasion of Iraq. It is all the same people doing the brainwashing and propagandizing of the American people — CIA, NSA, FBI and their megaphone in the mass media. This time the war is against Russia, a new Cold War.
Russia is the real target, not Trump. Trump is only in this because he can whip democrats into an hysterical frenzy.
Obama’s $1 trillion modernization of the nuclear arsenal, the $2 trillion to be spent on new military aircraft, and the $1 trillion spent on new and expanded overseas bases all go to the financial backers of the neo-cons. That’s an expenditure of at least $5 trillion over the next 10 years. It is money stolen out of the pockets of decent, hard-working people and placed into the coffers of corporations like Lockheed Martin and Boeing. And most Americans will be fully brainwashed and will be begging for the government to defend them from the Russian threat.
Quite pathetic.
Indeed. The bully, as ever, pretending he’s being bullied by others.
Yes, quite pathetic. 50% of Americans spend more than their income, the middle class is shrinking, while the military budget is increasing. Obviously this cannot continue forever. This Cold War II will not be cold for very long.
Anything to this?
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/bombshell-new-report-shows-guccifer-2-0-dnc-files-copied-locally-not-hacked/
Guessing yes.
IMHO the only thing you can prove is that all politicians are liars. The Tories made the Brexit disaster so they could pose as it’s terribly clever problem solvers. The problem was entirely created by themselves.
Political Muslims are now dressing up in their best clothes to celebrate the martyrdom of the Islamic State in Mosul. Martyrdom consisting here of leaving the wrecked city, with most of its Muslim inhabitants killed, in convoys of vehicles to serve USUKIS in another confederate colonial war somewhere in the globe.
Nice work if you can get it, paid to destroy and praised for getting destroyed. Human capacity to deceive themselves is marvellous.
Im so disappointed in novara, But guess I knew the way they where going. Never where very perfect obviously but they highlighted some very good issues very well imo.
The drift toward “power” Or the rich people.
I can be very stupid at times. I put a lot of work into spreading those ideas around. & I’m very poor… (money wise) .
Great timing, Craig. Absolutely no evidence of Trump/Russia collusion. No siree….
More than deflecting hacking on to the Russians,more than an excuse for losing such a “sure thing” election, the DNC was desperate to create a distraction that would lead the attention of the country away from the many crimes that had been committed during obamas administration and the Clinton foundation. To distract from the fact nearly every appointment by Obama had been to persons of little or no integrity.
The American people have been flimflammed in a spectacular manner.
If Seth Rich was the leaker then say so. Testify to it under oath. It may be the only way to prevent the US deep state from starting a war with Russia. The stakes are too high to keep dropping hints that he gave you the documents. He probably would not want you to risk WW III in order to keep a promise to him that only meant something when he was alive.
If the matter were investigated properly and Craig summonrd to testify under oath, I’m sure he’d make an excellent witness.
Kim Dotcom wants to testify that he has the evidence Seth Rich was the leaker but they are not interested.
Re: “The Democrats have refused the intelligence agencies access to their servers to discover what actually happened.”
One question: how is it that the “democrats’ are able to refuse access to an intelligence investigation? That would in fact be a criminal offense, and there would be heads rolling in high places if that were even attempted. No political party or organization, or committee within said party, is able to refuse access to an intelligence investigation, if indeed such an investigation has been launched or is underway. This statement reflects ignorance of US laws. Also, the NSA has access to ALL international cybertraffic in and out of the US. Get your own facts straight, Mr. Murray.
Did you watch the video?
The intelligence agencies never demanded access! Incredible yes, but it was Comey testifying to Congress saying that.
“One question: how is it that the “democrats’ are able to refuse access to an intelligence investigation?”
Well, that is largely the point of Craig’s post, isn’t it? Have you actually read it? Here are some quotations from the
post which might help you understand Craig’s answer to the question you have posed.
“As we have been repeatedly told, “17 intelligence agencies” sign up to the “Russian hacking”, yet all these king’s horses and all these king’s men have been unable to produce any evidence whatsoever of the purported “hack”. Largely because they are not in fact trying.”
“Not actually examining the obvious evidence has been a key tool in keeping the “Russian hacking” meme going.”
“There is a very plain pattern here of agencies promoting the notion of a fake “Russian crime”, while failing to take the most basic and obvious initial steps if they were really investigating its existence.”
“So those “17 agencies” are not really investigating…”
Problem is Sanders seems to have bought into the ‘Russia hack’ BS. He referred to it recently in his (otherwise excellent) People’s Summit speech in Chicago.
https://www.democracynow.org/2017/7/3/bernie_sanders_on_resisting_trump_why
As Mary wilkins has pointed out above, the main purpose of the Russia hacking BS is to divert attention to the ten years of Obama BS, Islamic State, Al Qaida, the global financial crash, and the extension of the hunting season by police of US citizens of ‘race’.
@ Chris July 11, 2017 at 10:39
Yes, and to the government and MSM line on Venezuela. But he would be better than Trump (could anyone, apart from Clinton, be worse?).
Last night, Luke Graham, Ochil and South Perthshire’s Tory MP, rose to make a point in the chamber about the absence of SNP MPs. He was quickly put in his place by the Deputy Speaker who pointed out that the Bill concerned England and Wales only.
“What a total fud” …
… is just one of the comments below the video on Martyn Day’s facebook page (sorry, can’t find a YouTube link yet).
https://www.facebook.com/MartynDaySNP/videos/655980604612233/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
“He was quickly put in his place by the Deputy Speaker who pointed out that the Bill concerned England and Wales only.”
Like fox hunting and Sunday opening hours?
What’s your point, Fred? Are you claiming Luke Graham isn’t a total fud?
My point is Scottish MPs do vote on England and Wales only laws, the SNP voted to keep the fox hunting ban in England and Wales and to keep restricted opening hours on Sundays.
Good, at least you’re not disputing Graham’s fud-status.
As regards those fox hunting and Sunday opening hours Bills, the SNP explained why they were voting on England and Wales matters. Now watch the video. The unionist clown you are defending plainly wasn’t even aware that the Bill didn’t include Scotland.
Not just a matter of distant history, Dave, there are also the murders of Dr, Davis Kelly, Stephen Hilder, Alexander Litveninko, Michael Hastings, Gudrun Loftus, Steven Rawlings, the al-Hilis, and William Hershkovitz.
The connection between Michael Bethaney’s spying and Willie McRae’s murder is the Brighton Bombing which trhrew the arrogant Thatcher government into a tiizzie. resulting in his callous assassination to dissuade othes who wanted to break up the UK even by force.
Interesting that the hitman, apparently Captain Simon Hayward went out of his way to say that he wasn’t in Northern Ireland when the Strabane ambush occurred, leaving him in Scotland when the one on Willie happened.
Then there were those 29 security personnel who were kiiled in that 1994 Chinook helicopter crash at the Mull of Kintyre because they were willing to settle for a more generous GFA with the IRA.
The UK really stinks when it comes to convenient massacres of its own
This is a good overview: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5t4t2s
Goodness Mr. Murray, what do you say now that Trump Jr. has admitted to meeting with a Russian operative along with Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner? As this article from Vox says [https://www.vox.com/2017/7/11/15953204/donald-trump-jr-emails-russia] , and as Trump Jr.’s own emails released today demonstrate, these revelations seem to change everything. Can you, do you still persist with your statement that there’s not a shred of evidence about collusion? — I have appreciated your insight in the past, but it seems that either you or we have been fooled on this one. What do you say now?
According to this apparent version of events, I’d say it’s considerably more interesting that Seth Rich turns up dead just one week after Trump learns about the Russian ‘Hillary info’ and please note that we have no context as to what the information referred to is or was. Think.
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On the other hand… Apparently we know the data was stolen in may 2016 and Wikileaks published it some months later in October and November. If the above story isn’t just chaff, it creates more questions than answers. If Russians had the emails and it wasn’t from Russian hackers, when and from whom did the Russians get them? We also don’t know exactly when Wikileaks acquired them. Could there have been a mole in their ranks during that period?
We do know that Seth Rich was murdered two months after the original theft while nothing was known to have been taken from his person during the ‘botched robbery.’
Sorry, original theft was in March not May.
Leaks not hacks, leaks not hacks, leaks not hacks.
I have heard you discredit the anti Assad forces in the country but I have rarely heard you recognise that thoe forces actually exists within the local population and all that means.
Anti-Assad is a broad description. I am anti-May. That doesn’t mean it’s in my best interests to start a civil war which displaces half the population of the UK. Those anti Assad forces who came from the outside and had nothing to lose by civil war because they were not from Syria have bankrupted Saudi Arabia in particular in their greed.
No Syrians have taken any benefit from this war, however much they have been anti-Assad. That is because Russia and China are all too familiar with the use of Islamist proxy mercenaries supported by David Cameron and Obama. We actually used the ballot box to fuck off Cameron and so did the people of the USA Obama’s successor. The exit of these two war criminals had more to do with Russia bombing the bunkers Hillary Clinton’s company built for Al Qaida, than leaks from the DNC. Hard facts on the ground, not weasel words.
Everybody is anti-Assad, he is one of the dictators installed by the West to conduct rendition torture on the Muslims for Israel. Nobody will forgive him for doing that. But even he turned out to be less brutal than Al Qaida and Islamic State , the USUKIS proxies. And nobody will ever forgive them for their brutality either, however many centuries the Muslim Brotherhood tries to weedle itself into power In Syria by terror.
It will never happen. Russia and China have flicked USUKIS and their mercenaries off their fingers like a bogey. Allahu Akbar.
It looks to me as though some intelligent person within the FBI recognised that USUKIS policy of ‘eating their own vomit’ i.e. funding proxy terrorists who will later become a problem for the West, leaked some extremely unsavoury emails about Hillary Clinton’s Democratic Party. And that the leakers were not insiders of the DNC but outsiders from the FBI and NS.
Everything I am typing will pop up in GCHQ. So is GCHQ leaking or hacking. We condone GCHQ accessing our computers when we click on I AGREE on Google, on the grounds that we trust them to protect our national security. If the FBI realised that Hillary Clinton is an actual Satanist witch and also stark staring bonkers, it answers the question ‘quis custodet ipsos custodes’. You’ve got to make sure that the Caligulas of this world get toppled. We the public give them our permission to do so.
@ giyane July 12, 2017 at 00:31
Trouble is the corruption runs from the local dog-catcher to the Supreme Court, from the cop on the street to the President.
“Everybody is anti-Assad, he is one of the dictators installed by the West to conduct rendition torture on the Muslims for Israel.”
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Not everyone on this blog by a long chalk, I fear.
The implication of that comment is that Assad’s father – the Original Butcher – was also installed by “the West”.
And that, of course, is codswallop.
@ Gordie July 11, 2017 at 22:35
Reporters like Vanessa Beeley and Canadian Eva Bartlett, as well as Syrian Sunnis and Christian nuns and priests, say Assad is popular with the majority of the Syrian people.
The armed insurrection (NOT ‘peaceful demonstrators) set off by the West with the intention of toppling Assad in their ‘Regime Change’ agenda CAUSED the insurrection, and when the West and it’s stooges and cronies flooded the territory with cut-throat mercenaries in a plan called by some the ‘Hornets Nest’, the massive killing, destruction, and refugee situation, at last being brought under control at great cost in men and treasure, by the Syrian Government and their allies.
Of course there are Syrians opposed to Assad; but to see the joy of people liberated, sometimes after years held as slaves or human shields by the head-choppers, I don’t think there is any doubt who they would prefer.
The Luciferian War Criminals who unleashed this catastrophe upon the Syrian people and State are utterly despicable, and the sooner they take up their allotted places in hell, the better.
Language is key. Newspapers all still describe a ‘civil war’. There is no civil war. There has never been a civil war. Assad is the rightful President of Syria, and the West sent in a bunch of head-choppers, child killers, and rapists in to remove him. That’s an invasion – a Satanic one at that – not a civil war, fairly obviously.
This Luciferian thing is increasingly bothering me. The ‘explanations’ for these wars have never fit, even oil and war dollars. Moonbat gets stick, and deserves it, but I recall he wrote a good article about how some senior neocons were all rabid Rapture Ready loon-bags, and Iraq was part of their preparation for the Great Homecoming, or something. It appears though that some of the whack jobs are also Luciferian cultists . I guess there are always going to be folks who read the Bible, and start supporting the other fella. People can be strange that way.
@ Hieroglyph July 12, 2017 at 02:13
‘… I guess there are always going to be folks who read the Bible, and start supporting the other fella…’
Including in the Vatican (John Paul I was going to clean out the Augean stables, which is why he was poisoned after just 33 days). That is why there is so much paedophilia in the RC Church (as in other Churches).
As for Freemasonry, here’s a quote from Albert Pike:
“That which we must say to the crowd is, we worship a god, but it is the god one adores without superstition. To you sovereign grand inspector general, we say this and you may repeat it to the brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees – the Masonic religion should be by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the luciferian doctrine.
If Lucifer were not god, would Adonay (the God of the Christians) whose deeds prove cruelty, perfidy and hatred of man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and His priests, calumniate Him?
Yes, Lucifer is god, and unfortunately Adonay is also God, for the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two gods. darkness being necessary for light to serve as its foil, as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive.
Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is heresy, and the true and pure philosophical religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay, but Lucifer, god of light and god of good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the god of darkness and evil”
Albert Pike 33*; Grand Commander, Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry, (‘Morals and Dogma’).
“Assad is the rightful President of Syria..”
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The above thought is only correct if one believes that the leadership of a country can be assumed as of right by means of a military coup (Assad Senior), maintained by a regime based on terror and a secret police apparatus and passed on dynastically (to Assad Junior).
I imagine that few readers of this blog – who surely support democratic process – would be inclined to support those three rather curious beliefs.
I assume you decry the way Poroshenko came into power? Just asking.
The Trump Jr stuff is just another Nothing Burger, with a side serving of Lies. I’m honestly amazed their still banging this Russia interference drum. Hilary was a terrible candidate, and didn’t even do especially well among women. The argument that anti-Trump Republicans were more likely to vote Hilary than Bernie was complete bullshit. I admit, to my shame, I initially swallowed that line, but Republicans hate Hilary, even the never-Trumpers. Hilary is a crook and a weasel, with zero sense of shame, and the good citizens of the USA rejected her, which I find highly amusing. I don’t care if she won the popular vote – that decides jack shit. She lost. Actually, she also cheated in at least 5 states, allegedly, and got a surprising amount of votes from dead people, so probably didn’t even win the popular vote anyway.
Trump Jr appears to have met with some crank, when everyone knows you only have to use Google to find publicly available allegations against the Clinton’s. The Clinton Foundation is a travesty of crookery, and friends of Clinton have literally been arrested for stealing children from Haiti. Ask the Haitians about the Hilary, see how loved she is over there. The MSM are just a total, corrupt, joke, making giant Russian mountains out of tiny molehills, and laughing at the stupidity of their audience. Fuck them all. Most of them are CIA assets anyway.
The postcode lottery is still supporting the Clinton Foundation despite knowing it is corrupt (they admit they know about it on the phone ) and the money is being used for the Clintons themselves like Chelsea ‘s wedding.
This is a Stink with Secrets.
July 11, 2017
UK Court Allows Saudi Arms Sales as May Suppresses Damning Report
After viewing evidence kept secret from the public, London’s High Court has rejected a bid to end weapons sales to Saudi Arabia. Andrew Smith of the Campaign Against Arms Trade, which brought the case, says the arms deal makes Britain complicit in Saudi Arabia’s devastating bombing of Yemen
http://therealnews.com/t2/story:19527:UK-Court-Allows-Saudi-Arms-Sales-as-May-Suppresses-Damning-Report
From the transcript. It sends a chill down the spine.
‘ANDREW SMITH: Well, in a way it’s hard to talk about the secret evidence because we weren’t allowed to hear it either. And roughly half of their case was held in secret court. And it may well be that we will never know any of what was said. The judge, when summing up his verdict, did suggest some of the stuff from the secret hearings might go into the public documents at a later date. But there was no guarantee of any of that. So it’s very hard to comment on the evidence because we simply weren’t able to see it.
What we do know about the case which was in public, was that the government was relying very heavily on the word of the Saudi military. But Saudi Arabia is run by a brutal dictatorship which cannot be trusted to observe the most basic human rights of Saudi people. It’s run by a brutal dictatorship which has one of the most appalling human rights records in the world, and cannot be trusted to run free and fair elections.
Now, we do not believe for one minute that Saudi Arabia is well placed to investigate itself for war crimes. The other point we have to remember is that a lot of the government’s evidence is coming from departments who are actively involved in promoting the sale of the exact same kind of arms which are being used against Yemen right now.
+++At present, U.K. made fighter jets are being flown by U.K. trained military personnel and dropping U.K. made bombs on the people below. The U.K. has been utterly complicit in this devastation. Far from being a neutral observer, it’s been an active participant.’+++
All to keep the Gulf open and safe for Israel.
Al Yamayah is also referred to. This country was being blackmailed by SA by a threat of terrorism on our streets if the corruption within the deal was investigated by the SFO. |The investigation was dropped.
Thanks for pointing that out, Sharp ears. leaves us to wait and see/hope whether JC has got a different agenda, this rotten stinking relationship with these hypocrites has to come to an end.
If this agenda is not tackled and the relationship ended , I’m sure, some Yemeni’s will want to let us feel some of their pain, here.
More stinking not so secrets….
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Wikileaks-Saudi-princes-engage-in-sex
And more Salahfish secrets of excesses and crimes.
http://malaysiaflipflop.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/dirty-secrets-of-saudi-prince.html
@ Bobm
July 9, 2017 at 22:51
‘Russians offered Trump’s son dirt on Hilary;
http://www.thedailybeast.com/nyt-russians-offered-trumps-son-dirt-on-hillary ‘
No one needs to go to the Russians to get dirt on the Clintons.
The evidence is in books like Terry Reed’s ‘Compromised’, Cathy O’Brien’s and Mark Phillips’ ‘ Access Denied – For Reasons of National Security’ and Gary Webb’s ‘Dark Alliance’, among others.
Trump didn’t go to the Russians. The Russians came to him…
https://www.justsecurity.org/43009/media-questions-trump-jr-emails-meeting-russian-government-lawyer/
This is also interesting, linked in the above article, and I supply it in the interests of what used to be referred to as balance, but is now called unfair driticism of the wonderful Russians…
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
Good annex on RT’s setup, too.
…criticism…
@ Ba’al Zevul July 12, 2017 at 10:40
Thanks for the correction. So the info was to do with dealings that Clinton had with the Russians (and doubtless double-crossed them); nothing to do with leaked emails.Great, I’m all for it.
As for RT, jolly good show! I agree with every point they make, including unfair elections, Syria and Georgia, except for their apparent support for the ‘Take Over Wall Street’, which I believe is Soros-led.
If the US had a decent MSM, they would be saying exactly the same as RT. RT are telling it like it is, instead of the BS Propaganda sppewing from the USG and MSM.
More power to their elbow!
As for RT, jolly good show! I agree with every point they make…
So no surprises there. Your English is remarkably good, though… Прости!
And here –
So the info was to do with dealings that Clinton had with the Russians
…you’re just making stuff up as you go along. And I quote (link above)
The key point is that essentially no Russian citizen or lawyer has compromising material on Hillary Clinton which has not been supplied to them from Russian intelligence.
Which Hillary knowingly gave Russian intelligence in the first place? Really, that is the weakest riposte to the notion that her emails were stolen by an actor either in, or trading with, Russian intelligence that I have yet seen.
Still, tell a lie often enough, as Goebbels said….
You forgot The Transfornatiion of America, you Russian/Trump stooge.
Got the title wrong, it;s the Tranceformation of America,
@ Trowbridge H. Ford July 12, 2017 at 12:04
I didn’t forget ‘Tranceformation of America’ at all; it’s just that ‘Access Denied’ contains everything in ‘Tranceformation’, and more, and is much more readable. Cathy and Mark recommend ‘Access Denied’. Have you read either, or the other two?
Yes, I nooticed you got the title wrong first time round, and for your info I’m neither Russia’s or Trump’s ‘stooge’. I detest Trump (but not as much as Clinton) and I support the Russians and Putin on most issues, because I deem them right.
How can you detest Russia/Trump when you support them, and generally think they are right!
And the Tranceformation of America devoted a whole chapter to Bill and Hillary, Chapter 14; Clintons Coke Lines which details their apparent pedophilia with drugged minors who they fear might give them sexually transmitted diseases (pp. 152-6.)
Yes, I have read it. Even bought my own copy of the reckless claims.
@ Trowbridge H. Ford July 12, 2017 at 14:29
I make it very clear that I detest Trump (so why deliberately misinterpret me?) but that I do support Russia/Putin on most issues. My post is plain as a pike-staff, though obviously ‘nooticed’ was meant to be ‘noticed’.
As for ‘reckless claims’, what do you mean by that? Their true record of events is backed up by over three tons of documents (I have about 2,300 of the Court documents and mail to and from Cathy and Mark and government, law and other agencies on a CD.
Also, of course, THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN SUED.
To further prove what utter Luciferian scum bags the pair are, we also have Pizzagate, the ‘Clinton Foundation’ and trips to Jeffery Epstein’s ‘Orgy Island’.
Throw off your blinkers!
@ By the way, some might think your often-reiterated claims that ‘they’ tried to kill you are reckless claims; I doubt you have a fraction of the ‘evidence’ Cathy and Mark have re their ‘allegations’.
That was a response to: Trowbridge H. Ford July 12, 2017 at 14:29