Lidl Terrorism 156


Everyone has seen the photo of the plastic bucket in the Lidl bag which contained the Parson’s Green bomb. The typically dubious Islamic State clam of responibility conjured amusing images of ISIS shopping at Lidl. The event was no joke however for the few people who were burnt, and the lesson yet again is that even the most amateur “terrorist” can kill or maim if they put their mind to it. Which is one reason why we should always be entirely sceptical of security service claims to be monitoring thousands of terrorists and foiling dozens of plots. Terrorism is physically easy – anyone who can wield a knife, drive a vehicle or put flammable liquid in a bucket can do it. Many entirely amateur terrorists manage to be a lot more deadly than these ones. In practice you cannot physically prevent all crime from occurring, without changing society completely by the most fundamental abolition of civil liberties. A certain low level “terrorist” risk we just have to live with. If we shun attacking other countries, we will obviously reduce that risk.

To create an effective blast, you need some sort of pressure vessel containing the explosive. There is no sign of this in the photos of the Parsons Green bomb and plainly there was no “blast” as such from the condition of the bucket. Some kind of fire event was rather created. If the police are arresting the right people, it is teenagers from social care backgrounds who did this. That is of a piece with what we know of so many recent attacks, where psychiatric health appears to be the cause of an interest in nihilist ideologies – as opposed to the other way round.

We are entering a phase where we can expect the deep unpopularity of the government to worsen. Real wages continue to fall, and that is going to continue. Despite this and the massive mountain of personal debt, the Bank of England seems determined to raise interest rates in the next few months, which will put an even larger squeeze on the living standards of the poor. In particular, an increase in interest rates will not just cause the struggling and overly indebted to have higher repayments, in the Tory buy to let economy it will feed directly into higher rents.

The government therefore needs an alternative narrative to distract the bulk of the population from their increasing penury. The Tory government will continue to use the Brexit negotiations, not to obtain the best outcome for the UK, but in order to manipulate events to highlight the issue of immigration and seek to further scapegoat immigrants as the cause of popular economic hardship. But they will also undoubtedly try to play up the “security” narrative. Expect more legislation to restrict civil liberties, and particularly expect amber Rudd to spearhead a coordinated media campaign to promote major censorship of the internet. That is the next major fight where we will have to stand up to the Tories.

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156 thoughts on “Lidl Terrorism

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  • Sharp Ears

    ‘Number 10 has appointed Andrew Percy, the former northern powerhouse minister, as her new trade envoy for Canada.’

    Theresa May flying to Canada for talks on post-Brexit trade deal
    The Prime Minister’s attempts to build global goodwill over Brexit are being undermined by Cabinet divisions.
    http://news.sky.com/story/theresa-may-to-fly-to-canada-for-talks-on-post-brexit-trade-deal-11041090

    He is also a leading member of CFoI. How can the jobs of an MP and a trade envoy to Canada be combined?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Percy

    A strange tweet in the light of his new appointment!

    Andrew Percy‏ @RealAndyPercyMP · Jul 23
    I just had a nightmare, I dreamt of a world in which Canada doesn’t exist. I doubt I’ll be getting back to sleep after that one. !
    https://twitter.com/RealAndyPercyMP/status/889328007877451777

    • nevermind

      ‘Well Theresa, Canadas comprehensive agreement with the EU prioritises that trade relationship first and foremost, best is to come back in five years, and keep in touch’…….

      • Paul Barbara

        @ nevermind September 18, 2017 at 12:07
        Does Canada wish to court Her Majesty’s Dipleasure?

  • Axeman

    A pressure vessel is only required to create an effective blast when using low-explosives, such as black powder. “Mother of Satan” (A****** P*******) is a high explosive, and capable of exploding without confinement. The media is reporting this was the explosive used, and it is one commonly used by jihadis due to it’s ease of covert manufacture. It is actually notorious for exploding unexpectedly, and extreme instability. This bomb was intended to kill dozens of people, it is only incompetence that prevented it functioning fully.

    • Ba'al Zevul

      I rather avoided the detail when addressing the same point earlier. I’d hate to give people ideas. But you are absolutely right.

      • Paul Barbara

        @ Ba’al Zevul September 18, 2017 at 13:03
        Back in the early 1950’s, I was able to glean enough information to produce nitroglycerin and nitrocellulose, as well as dynamite and ‘plastique’, from Encyclopedias.
        Also, detonation chemicals. And I made, and tested them, successfully (though once the experiment ran wild, and belched out foul brown smoke, leading to me heading out into the back yard, ‘toute suite’).
        It could have gone off, in which case I wouldn’t be around to tell the story.
        Didn’t stop me – the next batch I kept colder, and it worked.
        But I ain’t (and wasn’t) a ‘tewowist’; just a ‘mixed up kid’ thinking about blowing safes.

        • Ba'al Zevul

          I had my moments too. Mind you, you could pop into your local hardware store and buy a couple of pounds of [redacted] or [redacted] without an eyebrow being lifted, then. Wouldn’t have tried NG, then, even so.

    • Paul Barbara

      @ Axeman September 18, 2017 at 11:32
      Do you trust the PTB as to what sort of explosive (or flammable substance) was in the ‘bomb’ (or trust them on anything else, for that matter)?

  • Loony

    “The Bank of England seems determined to raise interest rates in the next few months” – I note that this statement stands in isolation and no evidence is offered to support such a contention.

    How might you have reached this conclusion? Perhaps by listening to the arch liar in chief Mark Carney. Here is Mr. Carney speaking on 12 June 2014.

    “there’s already great speculation about the exact timing of the first rate hike and this decision is becoming more balanced. It could happen sooner than markets currently expect”

    Do you remember what happened in the period from June 2014 to date? Did rates go up, or did they go down?

    it is true that the intention is to screw the poor and to tip more of the population into poverty. One way that this is achieved is via perpetually lying to the general population and then getting a few useful idiots to amplify those lies.

    If you have any concern for the poor then at least tell them the truth – and if you do not know what the truth is then acknowledge that.

  • John Goss

    If explosive devices were planted that killed some 3,000 people that would be a gross act of terrorism. Would the secret services, police and national security services bring the perpetrators to justice? Would they bring to justice the perpetrators even if they knew who was responsible? I suspect not. They would blame someone else and use it as an excuse to further their hegemony throughout the world. I’ve seen some acts of terrorism in my life.

    But a few kids with fireworks – now that’s really serious.

  • Loony

    You write: “A certain low level “terrorist” risk we just have to live with. If we shun attacking other countries, we will obviously reduce that risk.”

    Has the UK attacked more or less countries than the Philippines has attacked? Does the UK have more or less terrorist attacks than the Philippines? Do you understand the meaning of the word “obvious”?

    • Paul Barbara

      @ Loony September 18, 2017 at 13:00
      You have a good point there – of course the Philippines hasn’t attacked any other countries, but they HAVE upset the NWO-‘One World Gulag’ Luciferians, whereas the UK has been a ‘good little poodle’ and followed their orders. So they get hit with ‘Al-CIA-dah’, no doubt with modern Western arms, communications equipment, satellite intel and perhaps Western ‘Special Forces’ training and assistance.

  • Loony

    Something for the British to think about (if only they retained the capability for rational thought)

    It is estimated that there are approximately 203 million Muslims in Indonesia. In the UK there are approximately 2.8 million Muslims.

    More people from the UK have fought for ISIS than have people from Indonesia. Why do you think this might be? and what is it about the UK that produces people that want to fight for ISIS and what is it about Indonesia that produces people that do not want to fight for ISIS.

    • Ba'al Zevul

      You may find this informative, Loony.

      https://www.indonesia-investments.com/business/risks/radical-islam/item245?

      In which it appears that salafists in Indonesia are more concerned with terrorising their countrymen than fighting Syrians. The figure of 850 from the UK may be an overestimate, and is usually stated to include IS supporters as well as fighters. I’m guessing that a fair few of these are recent recipients of UK passports, too. But it’s a good question.

  • John Goss

    “Richard Aylmer-Hall, 53, a media technology consultant, ran too. He had been “blissfully” reading his newspaper and listening to a podcast on his way to Paddington on the train, which has capacity for 865 passengers, and was “absolutely packed” with commuters and schoolchildren. In the febrile panic that ensued, he heard a woman shouting about “a bag, a flash and a bang”.”

    I don’t want to get involved in this non-story but the above ‘witness’ is apparently connected to a company which is involved in simulated real emergency situations using a Disaster Emergency Logistic Telemedicine Advanced Satellite System (DELTASS) which deploys “operation-ready equipment” and employs “actors simulating medical patients alongside technical and medical staff.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=265&v=VVcl_PwDXzU

    • Paul Barbara

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/yahyah-farroukh-parsons-green-suspect-london-bomb-attack-latest-updates-isis-syrian-refugee-tube-a7952546.html
      ‘Photos show him partying, shopping and out with friends, with posts on Instagram suggesting he smoked cannabis and took drugs…..’
      Gee, where have we heard similar stuff about ‘pious’ Muslim Jihadis?
      And they catch someone leaving his fosterers home with a Lidl bag on CCTV, but were unable to show even ONE CCTV image from the 7/7 bombing on the underground trains or stations (one of a guy leaving Boots Chemist on Kings Cross mainline station was all they could manage – they couldn’t – apparently – follow his progress on other CCTV cameras?), and of course, the three bus CCTV cameras were ‘not working’ (despite the bus having an extra thorough service and checkout a day or two before).

    • Sharp Ears

      The teenager detained at Dover and former foster child of the Mr and Mrs Jones, is an Iraqi orphan. Would like to know how and why both of his parents died.

      • Loony

        Why would you like to know how and why the parents of a terrorist died?

        They probably died as either a direct or indirect consequence of Anglo American savagery. So now you (probably) know. What are you going to do with that information. The only relevant use of such information is to determine whether such orphans are either so traumatized or so embittered that they are likely to pose a threat to the civilian population of the UK. Obviously no-one will do that as it is too much like hard work, and so it is much easier to create a smokescreen of fake morality in order to justify their own stupidity and laziness.

        If you are so interested in “unfair deaths” you could look at the relatives of some 6 million Polish people or 25 million Russians and pose the same question. The answer would be connected to German barbarism.

        You could look at the relatives of 1 million Spaniards and the answer would be connected to other Spaniards or 250,000 Algerians slaughtered by other Algerians, or 20 million Chinese killed by other Chinese.

        None of this information is secret and neither is it relevant in seeking a morally repugnant justification as to why some nut job wants to blow up people on trains.

  • Agatha Cat

    Your image of the nihilists of ISIS shopping at Lidl is an interesting one. What attracts them most to the shop? It’s cheap yet perfectly good Perlenbacher Pils? Maybe the Chenin Blanc from South Africa? Or just a couple of lemons and limes to squeeze in their mouths before issuing some statement?

  • Geoffrey

    Raising interest rates is more likely to lower the price of houses than increase rents. Most people would think that a good thing. It would discourage people from taking on more debts . It would increase the value of sterling and thus lower import costs, and thus inflation.
    It would help pension funds.
    Asset prices generally will fall…………hence it probably won’t happen, therefore don’t worry. Most likely an attempt to scare the punters by the inept smoothy pants Canadian head of the BOE..

    • Loony

      You explain things more or less how they are.

      However “most people” that express a concern for the poor tend to be property owners. Their concern for the poor is unlikely to extend to their being willing to see the value of their own properties declining. So most people that count most definitely would not see falling house prices as a good thing.

      Hence the kind of economically illiterate arguments you see on this blog.

    • AliB

      But for those people who already have a mortgage and can only just make the repayments an interest rate rise will lead to default, house repossession and homelessness. And if it lowered house prices then people would be in negative equity, so would not only be homeless but bankrupt.
      For those people with rage credit card debts / overdrafts it would also be a disaster. I’m sure you’re right that for the already rich, i.e. those with savings, it will be a great boon.

      • Loony

        Yeah – pretty much all economic policies will produce winners and losers, albeit with one obvious exception.

        Maintaining the status quo will, at some point, lead to a currency collapse and then everyone will be a loser. This is the path that is being taken and is propped up by a general societal trend that everyone must be a winner underpinned by a growing desire for equality of outcome.

        The egos of the blood money men will likely not be conducive to them putting their hands up and saying “hey, we got it wrong” so they will lead you to war instead. That way you get to die along with your family and friends but don’t have to witness the horror of some people losing out economically. Thus the equality of outcome people get to win as everyone will be equal in death.

        Of course people that have bought overpriced assets with other peoples under priced money should bear no responsibility for their actions at all, and it is only fair and reasonable that we all get to die in order to protect other people from the consequences of their own actions.

  • Paul Barbara

    But the ‘fact’ that they are said to be ‘refugees’ will of course feed the anti-refugee mania of the extreme Right, and of many ‘brainwashed’ sheeple. Expect a crack-down on refugees (it’s fine to create refugees through bombing the f*ck out of their distant homes, but not fine to accept the consequences.
    I’m sure these pair were ‘known to the police’, perhaps incestuously so.

    • Loony

      What is this anti refugee mania of which you speak?

      Are you talking about the Japanese refusal to accept refugees? Or perhaps you are having a pop at Bangladesh.

      Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the other Gulf states don’t seem overly keen on refugees, do they?

      Eastern Europe and Russia seem distinctly reluctant to take refugees.

      So it seems that you are smearing the entirety of Japan, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, and the Slavic peoples., Many people would identify such widespread smearing of people as constituting the very definition of racism.

      • Paul Barbara

        @ Loony September 18, 2017 at 16:01
        The Japanese and Bangladeshis are not bombing the heck out of other countries, unlike us, the States, and NATO.
        Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the other Gulf states are in the same boat as NATO, and indeed Israel.
        They are doing their best to cause the deaths (one way or another) of the Indiogenous Palestinians, or their expulsion; they of course will not accept refugees, unless they are *ewish.
        So we and the aforementioned have taken a highly hypocritical stance (or are working on it) – we cause devastation in these people’s countries, then want to limit as much as possible their being granted refugee status in our countries.

        It’s not a matter of smearing any country on racial grounds, just on hypocritical and War Crimes grounds.

        • Loony

          You are correct, there is no shortage of hypocrisy.

          Most of eastern Europe is in NATO and yet has no, or very few, refugees. Sweden is not in NATO and yet has a lot of refugees.

          The Russians are bombing a lot of people and has few refugees from the country that it is bombing.

          No one is bombing Mexico and yet the US has a lot of Mexican refugees. Mexico has a clause in its constitution prohibiting Mexico from taking meaningful numbers of non Hispanic immigrants.

          Plenty of people are killing white South Africans and yet they don’t qualify for refugee status anywhere.

          Nobody is interested in the fact that if you are a Pakistani then in order to get a passport you have to sign a declaration that you accept that the Ahmadi’s are infidels. So here is an example of hatred of the other being written into law. None of this has anything to do with anyone bombing anyone else – this is just out and out prejudice.

          No-one seems to care much about the persecution of Balochs – just more naked prejudice that is unsupported by any international bombing campaign.

          The US pays a vast annual insurance premium to Brazil and Australia. The idea being is that if the US is subject to a large scale national disaster (say a Yellowstone volcanic eruption) then Brazil and Australia will accept US refugees. The same deal was offered to South Africa who turned it down – apparently a large influx of US citizens could alter the racial balance in South Africa and that could not be tolerated.

          Like I said there is no shortage of hypocrisy – it is everywhere you look.

          • Paul Barbara

            @ Loony September 18, 2017 at 18:07
            ‘…The Russians are bombing a lot of people and has few refugees from the country that it is bombing….’
            But, of course, Russia is bombing the Western, Turkish, Saudi, Gulf and Israeli-backed mercenary headchoppers, at the invitation of the legitimate Syrian Government.
            They no more wish to be bombing there than the man in the moon, where it not necessary to stop the complete destruction of Syria, leaving a Libyan-like result.
            ‘…The US pays a vast annual insurance premium to Brazil and Australia. The idea being is that if the US is subject to a large scale national disaster (say a Yellowstone volcanic eruption) then Brazil and Australia will accept US refugees. The same deal was offered to South Africa who turned it down – apparently a large influx of US citizens could alter the racial balance in South Africa and that could not be tolerated…’
            Thanks for that, I never heard of that before. As for South Africa, I agree totally; they have suffered enough, already, of the ‘White Man’s Burden’.
            Even during the war in the UK, there was a saying about the Yanks: Overpaid, oversexed and over here’.

  • Dave

    A more benign explanation for ‘Parsons Green’ is its part of an anti-cuts campaign. The Metropolitan Police are required to make a further £400 million savings by 2020, but despite this there has been an increase in anti-terrorist funding. Its blatant nonsense, going by the bomb picture provided, but the funny thing is, it can’t be officially exposed without bringing into question all the staged events or maybe that’s the intention!

    • Paul Barbara

      @ Dave September 18, 2017 at 18:38
      It can hardly be the intention, considering the police cooperation in large numbers of these ‘False Flags’ and hoaxes.
      There are many good policemen; though they might be afraid to speak out directly, why don’t they leak it?
      They should be smart enough to be able to leak without it pointing back to them.

      • Paul Barbara

        By the way, it’s surprising the number of police I have got a good response from when informing them about stuff; often they already know.
        Like the business with their very dangerous mobiles ( Tetra System), many of them know, but I have been told by a few that they are aware, but they only have a short time to retirement, and if they don’t accept Tetra they are kicked out. I have often handed out material re Tetra to them (as well, occasionally, on 9/11, which many are aware of).

      • Dave

        They have leaked it! A bomb responsible for a fireball that doesn’t even melt the plastic bag and a bandaged victim looking quite beautiful, unscathed and serene is telling you the truth, that’s hidden in clear view. What more do you need?

        • Kempe

          If the bomb had ripped the train apart and there were hundreds of mutilated victims screaming their heads off you’d still say it was false flag.

        • Paul Barbara

          @ Dave September 18, 2017 at 19:30
          But the police didn’t leak it, the MSM did.
          And the MSM take their orders on high, and they know very well that whatever they pump out, no matter how ridiculous, the ‘Sheeple’ will lap up.
          The number who question this crap is growing, but not fast enough.
          And the MSM are saying ‘this shit is real’.
          Go down the club, or the pub; try to explain this is an obvious setup. You may well end up with some properly applied bandages!

          • Dave

            The MSM run with the prepared narrative, but the props are supplied by others. Its as if they’re saying, look we’re under orders to do this, but to ease their consciences, they’re telling you its fake, as the pictures are completely at odds with the story.

        • Paul Barbara

          @ Dave September 18, 2017 at 19:30
          An unsigned statement something like: ‘I am a serving police officer, X years service.
          I am disgusted and appalled that the British State is faking hoax attacks, and even mass deaths, in the UK for it’s own nefarious purposes. If granted immunity from prosecution, and State Protection I will be happy to give my evidence to Parliament’.
          THAT is the kind of evidence I want. It shouldn’t be beyond the bravery of a dedicated copper.
          Just as plenty of good coppers have evidence about high level paedos, but prefer to hold their tongues, in order to hold their jobs (and perhaps lives), THEY need to know this needs addressing, fast.
          I’m not a copper, and I’m certainly not brave, but if I had evidence, I would blast it from the rooftops (and I have a powerful megaphone – my last one got ‘nicked’, not, I suspect, by a common or garden ‘fiefo’).

          • Kempe

            Or maybe a serving firefighter or paramedic or one of the doctors and nurses who pretend to treat the fake injured or the coroners who conduct the fake inquests or the undertakers and priests who organise the fake funerals for the fake victims or what about the tens of thousands of crisis actors themselves? In view of the increasing disaffection with governments on both sides of the pond you’d have thought somebody would’ve decided enough was enough and blown the whistle by now but no, nothing. Wikileaks; nothing, Snowden; nothing.

            Doesn’t that suggest something, that maybe there’s nothing to blow the whistle on?

          • Dave

            I know its very difficult to dispute the fake news directly with the general public, particularly in a rowdy pub, as opposed to debating with people interested in the details and consequences of the matter, but its horses for courses, so just point out anomalies in the news coverage and ask for an opinion and let people think for themselves, although they may recoil from the truth.

            I’m sure Jeremy Corbyn and his supporters see it and he discusses it with his brother Piers, but have decided a “united against terror” rather than “its fake news” approach is the more prudent response for various reasons, particularly after it delivered a big increase in the Labour General Election vote.

  • Jiusito

    I’m puzzled by the story on. Channel 4 News about Amazon’s helpful hints for would-be bomb-makers. Surely it takes a well-worn pathway to develop a particular algorithm? Even more people turning from bleach to ball-bearings than from bleach to air freshener, say? Are we supposed to imagine that hundreds of people have been shopping for bomb ingredients online? Shopping on Amazon? It seems utterly implausible to me – and just as implausible that no one on C4 News thought it odd.

    • Paul Barbara

      @ Jiusito September 18, 2017 at 21:49
      I dunno, when I checked out C4 on Amazon, I got ‘Cellucor C4 Pre Workout Powder with Creatine, G4, Icy Blue Razz 30 Servings…’
      I must be able to get some somewhere, even if I don’t ‘workout’.
      Just a sec, someone’s knocking on the door….

  • fedup

    We need to profile anyone who buys Christmas lights, Lidl Cool bags, and builders buckets. Heck! We need to profile the bally lot of the population and keep tabs on everyone of the swine, who knows what they will get up to next?

    Nay in fact hang them, and quarter them, who needs the poor and the immigrants and the rest of the rabble anyway? Food eaters to a man of them and wasters of the resources, it is all in line with looking after the planet and all that!

  • Amir

    Hi,

    I regret that I only was able to make a small contribution. If I may be impertinent, I would like to suggest the use of crowdfunding through specialized websites. Boiling Frog Post / Newsbud (from the FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds), was able to fund their operations though it for a while:
    https://www.crowdfunding.com contains a list of the 10 biggest websites. The catch is to use different incremental limits of 1k, 10k, 25k, 50k, 100k, for each different website, I think.

    Unbeknown to you, you had a major positive influence in my life, for which I am eternally grateful. I wish you a lot of strength.

    • Paul Barbara

      I’ve found it:
      ‘Springvale bank fire: CCTV shows ‘pandemonium’ as customers flee arson attack’:
      http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-19/springvale-bank-fire-cctv-footage-aired-in-court/8960540

      I can’t understand how anyone else got seriously burnt, as the fire was in one place.
      Amazingly, I saw a woman push her pushchair (presumably containing a child) THROUGH part of the unburnt liquid (as he is supposed to have stolen the container from a store where it was used to collect drain-off from the air conditioning system, maybe there was still water as well as petrol, and the two don’t mix.

  • Paul Barbara

    ‘Parsons Green ‘attackers’ may have met outside UK: Detectives probe theory as neighbours say police made several visits to suspect’s home weeks before the bombing’:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4893172/Is-Parsons-Green-suspect-way-attack.html#ixzz4t2DeYbfz

    ‘Counter-terror detectives are investigating whether the two suspects they have arrested over the Parsons Green Tube bombing may have met abroad before they came to the UK.
    They have detained an 18-year-old trying to leave the country who is believed to be an Iraqi living with foster parents Ronald Jones, 88, and wife Penelope, 71, in Sunbury-on-Thames.
    And on Saturday night they arrested Syrian Yahya Faroukh outside a chicken shop where he worked in Hounslow.
    Both are believed to have spent time at the Jones’ home – but now investigators want to know if they met previously on the perilous route from the warzone of Syria and Iraq to Europe.
    They are also investigating whether the pair could have teamed up at the Jungle camp in Calais where so many migrants spend time before making the last leg of their journey to the UK.
    Police visited the alleged bucket bomber’s foster home ‘a few times a week’ for the past month and more recently anti-terror officers had been watching the house, a neighbour claimed today.

    The developments came as CCTV emerged of a man in a grey tracksuit and red beanie hat clutching a bulky Lidl bag just 90 minutes before the Parsons Green bucket bombing.
    Last night it was claimed that the suspect was arrested at the Port of Dover when police recognised a red hat he was wearing and grabbed him before he could leave the country.
    After Faroukh’s arrest police swooped on his house in Stanwell, Surrey, directly opposite Heathrow airport.
    Faroukh lived with the Jones’ until May and Scotland Yard are investigating whether the suspects first met abroad in the Calais ‘Jungle’ camp or even as far away as ISIS-controlled Syria or Iraq.

    A photograph of the flaming white bucket taken just after it exploded around 8.20am on Friday shows a number of wires protruding out of the top of Lidl bag +38
    A photograph of the flaming white bucket taken just after it exploded around 8.20am on Friday shows a number of wires protruding out of the top of Lidl bag
    The developments came as CCTV emerged of a man in a grey tracksuit and red beanie hat clutching a bulky Lidl bag just 90 minutes before the Parsons Green bucket bombing.
    Last night it was claimed that the suspect was arrested at the Port of Dover when police recognised a red hat he was wearing and grabbed him before he could leave the country.
    After Faroukh’s arrest police swooped on his house in Stanwell, Surrey, directly opposite Heathrow airport.
    Faroukh lived with the Jones’ until May and Scotland Yard are investigating whether the suspects first met abroad in the Calais ‘Jungle’ camp or even as far away as ISIS-controlled Syria or Iraq.
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    Mr and Mrs Jones’ Surrey home was raided by an armed counter-terrorism unit on Saturday morning and is still behind a huge metal police cordon on the street.
    Stephen Griffiths, 28, who lives opposite the ‘lovely couple’, said they were visited ‘multiple times over the span of about a month – a few times a week’, and believes their house may have been under surveillance.
    He said: ‘They started off as normally dressed cops, then moved up in the police ranks, wearing black uniforms in an undercover car. They used to speak to Penny and Ron on the doorstep, but the last couple of times they went in the house.
    Mr Griffiths said the home was last visited by police between two and three weeks ago, and having witnessed Saturday’s raid, he now believes they were counter-terror officers.
    ‘You need to question whether the house was under surveillance,’ he said.
    ‘I think counter-terror police visited a few weeks ago, and if so, why wasn’t something done sooner?’
    A Metropolitan Police spokeswoman said the 18-year-old, who was detained on Saturday morning in the departure area of Dover ferry port, had not been arrested ‘in the last couple of weeks’.
    But she could not confirm whether he or the property had been visited by officers recently…..’

    • Sharp Ears

      ‘Police visited the alleged bucket bomber’s foster home ‘a few times a week’ for the past month and more recently anti-terror officers had been watching the house, a neighbour claimed today.’

      YCNMIU
      PS Should the ‘anti terrrrr officers’ have gone to Specsavers?

      • fedup

        They were helping him to put the bucket and the pineada together!

        Don’t you like the early Xmas spirit with the nice touch of the Chrimbo lights? Obviously a Christian at heart and all that coming through.

  • Mochyn69

    @ Paul Barbara

    Stephen Griffiths, 28, who lives opposite the ‘lovely couple’, said they were visited ‘multiple times over the span of about a month – a few times a week’, and believes their house may have been under surveillance.
    He said: ‘They started off as normally dressed cops, then moved up in the police ranks, wearing black uniforms in an undercover car. They used to speak to Penny and Ron on the doorstep, but the last couple of times they went in the house.
    Mr Griffiths said the home was last visited by police between two and three weeks ago, and having witnessed Saturday’s raid, he now believes they were counter-terror officers.
    ‘You need to question whether the house was under surveillance,’ he said.
    ‘I think counter-terror police visited a few weeks ago, and if so, why wasn’t something done sooner?’
    A Metropolitan Police spokeswoman said the 18-year-old, who was detained on Saturday morning in the departure area of Dover ferry port, had not been arrested ‘in the last couple of weeks’.
    But she could not confirm whether he or the property had been visited by officers recently…..’

    Now isn’t that extraordinary? Even Donald Trump seemed to know that!

    I have some nagging doubts about the narrative we are being told here, again.

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    • Paul Barbara

      @ Mochyn69 September 19, 2017 at 18:45
      ‘…I have some nagging doubts about the narrative we are being told here, again.’
      Everybody should have. But unfortunately all too many believe what they see on the box, or read in the MSM.
      And they’re brainwashed into an automatic knee-jerk reaction of calling any questioner a ‘Conspiracy Theorist’, instead of considering the questions and giving a rational reply.

      • fedup

        Rational reply?

        You seriously expect a bunch of manic irrational psychos to come up with a “rational reply”?
        Now that is optimism, won’t you agree?

        The smoke and mirrors is for the benefit of keeping the arrangements in place through bolstering the measures of control and stetting in place even more intrusive control constructs, and the current brouhaha is just an attempt, a very successful attempt in manufacturing the consent that is needed for introduction of the intrusive control constructs.

        Check this image and then go read the graphic narrative here However your attention ought to be drawn to the strewed A4 papers in the proximity of the bag and bucket installation sporting a lit Christmas light array, that somehow have survived the inferno portrayed in the latter graphic.

        Now why do you think such a sloppy narrative is taking hold in the current post heroic Zeitgeist? Given the repetition of the memes spewed by the corporate and state propaganda organs that is also somehow being passed as the thoughts of those whom thought it all by themselves in this blog too?

        • Paul Barbara

          @ fedup September 19, 2017 at 19:33
          I was just putting the same point, more mildly. You catch more bears with honey than with bile.
          But I didn’t exactly tip-toe around it, either!

      • Kempe

        ” they’re brainwashed into an automatic knee-jerk reaction… ”

        …of branding all terrorist events as false flags and then looking for any evidence, no matter how thin, to support that assumption.

  • Paul Barbara

    These are some points from an email from Aaron Little, who has given me permission to add to this blog:
    ‘ONCE YOUR EYE IS IN IT IS EASY PEASY TO SPOT FALSE FLAGS.

    Recalling the images that were on sky news and other news outlets, a few things struck me.

    1. The ginger haired woman accompanied some distance by an overweight police woman. Did you notice her make-up was floorless and foundation looked freshly applied and her hair had been combed with not a hair out of place. After receiving medical treatment and having a bandage wrapped around her head going to her jaw, even the best nurse in the World would ruffle your hair. Nobody looks that good after falling over let alone surviving a flash bomb incident. Also I would like a nurse to comment on the bandage. As far as I can recall from first aid class you DO NOT put a bandage from the top of your head to your neck in case of strangulation. No one would dress a wound in that manner. The news has led us to believe that people have suffered burns as a result of the flash-bomb. Flash bombs and fires deposites carbon soot onto faces and clothes. So we can rule out that because she was too clean and quoffered.

    2. Did you notice that at one point the beautifully made up victim with the copper walked passed an ambulance and was talking on her mobile. That is when you could see that the bandage was wrapped around her throat, but when she came insight of the tv camera’s she turned her mobile off.

    3. There is an overweight woman (victim) being supported by a policeman on one side and a fire fighter on the other. With no ambulance worker in sight. Talk about JOB SHARING. Employment roles have been swapped.

    4. A lot of the passengers exiting from the back of the tube train were wearing Badges dangling from strings and Burgundy Red tops.

    5. A overhead scene from the helicopter shows the top of tube train you can clearly see a pair of black abandoned shoes making out the no. 11. If you have followed the likes of youtubers Spudgy Pang or Jungle surfer you will know about the shoe code that is used.

    6. There was a young guy with a blond crew-cut wearing jeans being carried high in the air, he was using his mobile phone to obscure his face, he also had one shoe missing exposing a white sock.

    7. All the other so called victims were walking by using their mobiles to obscure there faces.’

    • Dave

      Yes, why it appears these events are under new management from those responsible for 9/11 and 7/7. Its almost as if they are reassuring those who care to look, that no one’s getting hurt, so go along with the charade in the interests of national security to provide the state with the powers to contain the crisis it has created and/or as part of an anti police cuts campaign.

  • Paul Barbara

    ‘Radical Islamic Terrorists: The Best Bad Guys Money Can Buy’:
    http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/radical-islamic-terrorists-best-bad-guys/?

    ‘Radical Islamic Terrorists are everywhere, it seems. They’re all over Syria and Iraq. They’re in Libya and Nigeria too. They attacked the former Soviet Union from Afghanistan and modern day Russia from Chechnya. We’ve seen them in the Philippines. They attacked an Australian cafe in Sydney, so we were told. Recently they’ve been in Myanmar (Burma). They’ve infiltrated Europe and are behind various attacks in London, Paris, Berlin and Barcelona, so we were told. They’re even in China (Uyghur/Xinjiang)…..’

    Why, they’re even in Parsons Green (what great SatNavs they must have) – even Brits would probably end up at the Parsons Nose, Fulham, if they tried to find it.

  • maze

    “That is of a piece with what we know of so many recent attacks, where psychiatric health appears to be the cause of an interest in nihilist ideologies – as opposed to the other way round.”

    I just wanted to point out, that fundamentalist islamist ideology is not “nihilism” by a long shot, it may even be the diametrical opposite on a philosophical standpoint. Nihilistic views come in various flavours, I just want to point out 2 that are relevant for the distinction.

    “Moral Nihilism” is the point of view that nothing is morally wrong, and every action can be justified in one way or another. It is easy to point to terrorist actions and claim they are nihilistic, because to most of us, their actions are clearly morally wrong in essence. But for the religious fundamentalist, everything is morally wrong except it is sanctioned by a religious authority (Koran and sharia law in the case of islamists). They justify their actions not because they deny the concept of morality, but because they see it as a nessessary step towards the establishment of a global theocracy.

    Nihilistic epistemology is another flavour of nihilism, that is opposed to a religious fundamentalist worldview. Nihilistic epistemology basically means: “there is no objective reality we could draw conclusions from or: there is no certainty of knowledge”. The fundamentalist worldview is that there is that there is certainty of knowledge and a source of wisdom and that is the religious authority (again the Koran and interpretations of it in the case of islamist fundamentalism).

  • John Spencer-Davis

    The report states that the young man’s natural parents were killed in Iraq.

    If that was a result of Western bombing, then it isn’t very surprising that he hates the West, is it? What he did was
    horrible and terrifying, but I wouldn’t like to be the one to look him in the eye and tell him not to kill civilians, if
    his parents were civilians killed by Western power. J

    • Paul Barbara

      @ John Spencer-Davis September 22, 2017 at 21:06
      ‘…if his parents were civilians killed by Western power….’
      What difference should it make if his parents were civilian or military, or rebels?
      It is perfectly legal for people to resist an invading or occupying force. Remember, the US and it’s crony War Criminals invaded and occupied Iraq under totally false pretenses.
      Were the French Resistance in WWII ‘Terrorists’? The Nazis probably classed them as such.
      That being said, the vast majority of people killed in recent wars are civilians.

      • John Spencer-Davis

        I am anticipating the objection that since Western bombing was directed against military targets, it was legitimate, whereas bombs directed against a civilian population are more morally reprehensible. If this young man’s parents were killed as “collateral damage” it can reasonably be said that such an argument would cut no ice with him. Why should it? His parents are dead in any case.

        I agree that assaults on a country that are not responses to imminent armed attack or undertaken to defend innocent civilians from wholesale slaughter are simple murder, even of military personnel. However, there is at least the mitigation that military personnel can be said to have accepted voluntarily the risk of putting themselves in harm’s way. No such argument can be applied to dead civilians. J

        • Paul Barbara

          @ John Spencer-Davis September 23, 2017 at 16:06
          You are probably aware that the Western ‘War Criminal’ assh*les wan’t as many ‘rag-heads’ as possible to die, one way or another.
          If you accept that, say so. If you debate that – fire away.

          • John Spencer-Davis

            I neither accept it nor wish to debate it. I take a different view, which is that the “Western ‘War Criminal’ assh*les” couldn’t actually care less how many ‘rag-heads’ live or how many die, as long as they keep to their proper place in the world. Chomsky and Harris debated the relative evils of malevolence and indifference. I incline to Chomsky’s view that regarding human beings as inconsequential insects is arguably worse than regarding them as enemies who have to be destroyed. J

          • Paul Barbara

            @ John Spencer-Davis September 24, 2017 at 12:20
            So it goes without saying that you you wouldn’t agree about the ‘useless eater’ and ‘human culling’ agenda of the ‘Elite’ Luciferian ass*oles.
            That the ‘PTB’ only need a tiny fraction of the present population of the globe as ‘slave workers’ and ‘Mind-Controlled’ soldiers and police, and the rest are to be culled.
            No es problema, live and learn. It’s coming, though thank God I’ll be gone, and won’t have to see it.

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