I Go to Stand My Trial 597


I leave Edinburgh this afternoon for London, to stand trial at the High Court for libel. To answer a question frequently asked, the reason I have accepted English jurisdiction is that the event was a Sky News broadcast, an English broadcaster. If it had been over my blog I would not have accepted jurisdiction as I do not accept the English claim to universal jurisdiction over internet content.

I do hope that this trial will help bring into further disrepute the immoral and draconian English libel laws. If I lose, the total costs and damages I would have to pay will potentially amount to some £350,000 – a ridiculously disproportionate result for the alleged civil offence. It would ruin me and blight the lives of my young family. Whether this can possibly be an appropriate reaction to something I said in response in a live debate, you might judge for yourselves by reading the court documents .

Thanks to the astonishing generosity of the readers of this blog, at least I am in a position to defend myself robustly. Over 5,000 readers of this blog have, with incredible generosity, contributed a total of £100,323 towards my defence to date. The libel laws are so oppressive because the sums of money involved are so astonishing. The entire massive English libel industry – courts, judges, barristers, solicitors – is taken together a major financial interest in itself, well represented in parliament. It is in all their collective financial interest that this system of oppression rolls on, which of course requires a good chance of people being found guilty to encourage more plaintiffs into the industry. I often feel this analysis from unconscious institutional self-interest is often neglected in favour of the equally valid and important argument that the libel laws are an essential tool of the wealthy and powerful to discourage free speech by the poor. Robert Maxwell, Alisher Usmanov and Jimmy Savile are three examples of people who kept their true nature hidden by constantly and aggressively threatening people with the disastrous consequences of an English libel suit.

Finally the trial starts on Tuesday 7 November at the Royal Courts of Justice in the Strand, High Court Queen’s Bench. It will last probably two and up to three days. It is open to the public. I would very much welcome anyone with the capacity to report any of what happens on social media. I am not aware of any restrictions on this, but will try to publish them here if I learn of any.

This is probably my last blogpost until after the trial, as I must concentrate now. By the time I come back online the Tories will have appointed their next Disgraced Former Defence Secretary in Waiting.


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597 thoughts on “I Go to Stand My Trial

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  • Ruth

    I wish you the best but from experience know that many judges don’t deliver justice but serve the Establishment. Should you need more money I’d most definitely contribute again.

  • giyane

    Hi Craig, there was a very plummy Lord Rothschild on the radio on Thursday morning celebrating the Balfour Declaration. Very big business interests indeed. We’re all bound for Davy Jones’s locker and there’s nothing can save us now. Both you and your wonderful blog.

    However, English law allows free speech. Rothschild gets his plummy interview on radio 4 and you get your chance to question Israel’s divine rights of political exceptionalism on air as well. If you don’t get your right of free speech in court, many will question Rothschild’s right to pontificate on the abomination of Israel’s presence in the Middle East.

    Let’s hope English Justice isn’t finished.

  • laguerre

    Light talk on the media is hardly reason for prosecution. Lots of insults pass that way. It’s unreasonable that what Craig said be treated differently.

    • Muscleguy

      He is being done because he is Craig. This is an excuse to ruin him, personally. Or humiliate him by causing him to make an abject apology with a significant sum.

      They don’t much care if they win, they have brought him to book (in their terms) made him jump, made him wake in the night in a cold sweat at the implications.

      When Craig trounces them this will keep their cold hearts a minuscule degree above absolute zero.

      • fred

        “He is being done because he is Craig. This is an excuse to ruin him, personally. Or humiliate him by causing him to make an abject apology with a significant sum. ”

        So no different to the nationalist’s cases against Alistair Carmichael or Kezia Dugdale then.

      • Old Mark

        When Craig trounces them this will keep their cold hearts a minuscule degree above absolute zero.

        Seconded Muscleguy; Best wishes to Craig in this important case.

        BTW Craig if you need liquid refreshment at the lunchtime adjournment, or afterwards, the mock half timbered ‘George’ across the road is worth a visit, usually half a dozen real ales on tap, all in good nick, and reasonably priced by central London standards. The food- either bar snacks or in the restaurant upstairs, is also very good.

        As WSC said – KBO !

  • Piers

    It is ironic that someone who calls all Brexiters “racist” gets falsely accused of being an anti semite

  • Janice Alexander

    Even although you have mistakenly described me as ‘evil or extraordinarily thick’, I am contributing to the costs of your fight for what is right. I think if you reflect on what has happened to Scotland’s infrastructure, education and health services under an SNP government you might agree that I am not as evil or thick as you thought. Where else on this island have highly experienced teachers had their pay cut by approximately half. Or perhaps you’re right and I am extraordinarily thick for using some of my very limited funds to support you. I hope not. I wish you the very best of luck and hopefully a fair honest judge in court. If one can be found.

    My very best wishes

    Janice Alexander

    • Jon

      Well, you deserve a great deal of credit for standing up for a good cause, despite the, erm, robustness of prior debate. Nicely done.

  • Hieroglyph

    Imagine being sued by Jimmy Saville. I’d hope anyone who lost a libel case against him can now appeal. You know, in light of the fact he’s a pederast, and corpse fucker. And that’s not even taking into account the alleged procuring for VIP’s, inc. Ted Heath.

    Well good luck to Craig. This seems like a nothing case to me, and a sane judge would laugh it out of the room. Alas, Craig has made enemies among Our Betters (aka, establishment crooks and\or nonces), so it’s not a certain result. Would be funny if whothis name lost though. Wonder what it would cost him?

  • Sharp Ears

    This is called ‘Laughing in the Palestinians’ faces’.

    Analysis 100 Years of Balfour: Netanyahu Arrives in London at the Worst Time for Theresa May
    Downing Street may not be an enthusiastic participant at the celebration in London this week, but Theresa May has enough of her own problems to consider ruining her Israeli counterpart’s show
    Nov 02, 2017

    ‘Arriving in London Wednesday night, Netanyahu will be meeting with May twice Thursday – at noon for a working meeting at 10 Downing Street and in the evening for a private dinner at Lancaster House hosted by Lords Rothschild and Balfour, commemorating the Balfour Declaration.

    According to Israeli officials, the British government insisted that the event be classified as “private” and closed to the media. Netanyahu will also be meeting with Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson.

    Besides the Balfour event, the visit’s other highlights are scheduled for Friday, when Netanyahu will be lecturing at Chatham House and answering questions from members of the prestigious think tank. In recent years, Netanyahu has only given interviews to friendly news organizations and has held very few real press conferences, so it will be a rare occasion in which he’ll face questions from what can expected to be a critical audience.

    But after Chatham House and a brief visit to the London Stock Exchange, it will be a long and luxurious Shabbat weekend at the Savoy Hotel where Netanyahu will celebrate his wife Sara’s birthday – at the Israeli taxpayer’s expense. He’ll be there with the sole minister to be invited to join the trip, Culture Minister Miri Regev, the current favorite of the Netanyahu family for her attacks on their critics, including most recently President Reuven Rivlin.’
    /..
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.820472

      • freddy

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hader,_Quneitra_Governorate

        Well according to Wiki the village of Hader, adjacent to UNDOF
        https://undof.unmissions.org/
        is ASSAD friendly?
        Israeli military ‘ready to protect’ Druze village in Syria over factions clash
        https://www.rt.com/newsline/408692-israel-military-druze-village/
        The Israeli military said on Friday it was ready to protect the Druze village of Hader on the Syrian side of the Golan Heights after escalation in the fighting in the area between Syrian factions. The Israel Defense Forces are prepared and ready to “prevent damage to or the capture of the village Hader out of commitment to the Druze population,” the military said. Hader residents have Druze kinsmen lobbying on their behalf in Israel, Reuters said.

        So this is a MYSTERY

          • laguerre

            “If Damascus can’t send its government troops 28 miles from its capitol”

            It’s on the Golan cease-fire line. The Israelis wouldn’t allow it. So it is question of whether Syria wants to go to war with Israel, or not.

        • laguerre

          There are Druze in Israel, as also in Lebanon and Syria. The Israeli Druze were no doubt ready to help out their cousins on the other side of the border. But, the Syrian Druze do also have good relations with Asad. They’ve been left alone by the Syrians, their sons not conscripted. It’s the other case, apart from the Kurds, where there’s likely to be an autonomy deal in the post-war peace.

        • freddy

          One wonders if Israel has boots on the ground in Syria ( as well as in the stolen Golan)
          one wonders if the enclave of Islamic State adjacent to Undof / Israel
          is serving an Israeli /American purpose?

          • freddy

            If the Israelis are, in Syria proper, one wonders, how they get from Israel, past the United Nations
            without the United Nations being aware of the Israelis?

            It is a mystery

      • freddy

        Hader, Syria 28 miles from Damascus
        http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/11/violence-hits-druze-village-hadera-syria-quneitra-171103142854755.html
        Israeli security forces say they are “prepared and ready” to prevent the capture of a village in Syria’s Quneitra province caught up in clashes between President Bashar al-Assad’s troops and rebel fighters.

        Violence erupted in Hader, in the Syrian-controlled part of the Golan Heights, after a suicide attack at dawn on Friday killed at least nine people and injured more than 20 others

        Hader is home to the Druze community, a minority religious sect found in Syria, Israel,
        the occupied Palestinian territories and Lebanon.

        Fighting broke out between Syrian government troops and rebel fighters in Hader following the blast, leaving a Druze individual injured in the village of Majdal Shams on the Israel-occupied side.

        SANA, the official Syrian news agency, said the incident involved a Jabhat al-Nusra suicide bomber who detonated a car bomb near houses on the outskirts of Hader, leaving nine people dead and 23 injured.

        It said the death toll was likely to rise as most of the wounded sustained serious injuries and had to be pulled out of the debris with difficulty in the face of gunfire and shelling by rebel fighters.

        Warning to Druze
        Al Jazeera’s Harry Fawcett, reporting from West Jerusalem, said: “This attack has been claimed by Tahrir al-Sham, better known by its former name Jabhat al-Nusra.

    • Trowbridge H. Ford

      Interesting that The Sun article about Kelly’s death pictures the set-up of the police investigation in the meadow behind the woods along the Thames and way away from Harrowdown Hill where it was finally found, thanks to a ride in a TV helicopter, showing the it was removed from the scene near where those four unnamed persons were met by seeker Louise Holmes et al. after the fatal night. The exhumation looks like trophy hunting to me.

  • reel guid

    Scottish Labour’s Brian Wilson with a truly appalling piece in The Scotsman in which he revels in the plight of Catalan government ministers and says it has resulted from their “attempt at tyranny”. So this eejit now thinks Rajoy, the Guardia Civil and the fascist saluting Spanish nationalist demonstrators are the law abiding democrats, while the moderate, democratic Catalans who want independence – or at least a free and binding vote on independence – are tyrannical.

    Side with fascists and you’re as good as a fascist yourself.

    • Republicofscotland

      “Side with fascists and you’re as good as a fascist yourself.”

      My sentiments exactly, as for the foaming at the mouth lickespittle Wilson, the sooner Salmond and Co takeover the Scotsman, (sales in freefall just now) the better.

      • reel guid

        Aye Ros. To get his articles published Brian the Blackshirt might have to go and set up The West Highland Falange Press.

  • reel guid

    The Economist’s Anne McElvoy on QT said that there’s no appetite in Catalonia for independence. By which she means that a fascist government will try to ensure support for Catalan independence and democracy will be suppressed and everyone in Europe should just forget.

    As for the BBC’s Question Time from Kilmarnock. Four pro-union panellists to one pro-independence panellist. In a country in which 53% of the members of the nation’s parliament are pro-independence.
    53% representation in a PR elected parliament. 20% representation in a BBC chosen QT panel.

    • Sharp Ears

      McElvoy is married to Martin Ivens, the editor of the Sunday Times.

      A pair of establishment stooges.

    • fred

      QT is a British program broadcast over the entire British Isles. The SNP have 5% of MPs in Britain, it looks to me like Nationalists were over represented.

      Unless you think when QT is broadcast from outside Scotland the SNP should not be represented at all.

      • Republicofscotland

        “it looks to me like Nationalists were over represented.”

        However during the run up to the Scottish indyref, QT a English BBC (anti-independence) political programme with a English presenter, who distinctively gave the impression that he is pro-union, had on every occasion SNP MP’s /MSP’s outnumbered five to one.

        QT only slinks north of the border on occasion to keep the propaganda line refreshed. The programme would have absolutely no bearing in a indy Scotland.

    • Republicofscotland

      reel guid.

      Even Spanish children are being taught to give the fascist Sieg Heil salute now, I find that shockingly unacceptable.

      https://wingsoverscotland.com/hurrah-for-the-jockshirts/comment-page-1/#comment-2314063

      More worryingly what does it say about those (not Spanish) who supports Spain’s stance on the Catalan matter?

      Also for the first time in many years political prisoners (peaceful self determination is their crime) are being held in prisons in Western Europe, Spain to be precise.

      Of course the Britnat government is staying silent on the matter. However it was a different kettle of fish in 2014, when David Cameron begged Rajoy to say publicly that Scotland would be outside the EU if it voted yes.

      • reel guid

        Yeah Ros. According to Westminster and the MSM it’s all a matter for Spain and the rule of law has been re-established etc.

        Except it is our business. Our fellow Europeans are having their democratic rights taken away. It is our business because fascism spreads.

      • Republicofscotland

        Dissolve parliament, call new elections
        Imprison the opposition, Spain is definitely no longer a democratic country.

  • Asif Naqvi

    Hello Craig,

    I hope it’s just a matter of the court recognising this action is a waste of everyone’s time. I know very little about these things, it would be good to see institutional justice not forgoing sense in favour of process. All this energy and effort being expended over this short interview, what a ridiculous and vindictive way to use the law.

    I value and respect your independent thoughts, though I’m not always in agreement. I really appreciate the way you look into the details of a matter where very often the truth is buried. I am sure this will continue. I Have donated twice and wish you and your loved ones well.

    • Jon

      I believe I read it elsewhere on this blog that, unfortunately, there won’t be a jury. A jury would be very sympathetic to Craig’s position, given the power dynamics between a wealthy newspaper editor and a defendant who would not normally be able to afford the sums necessary to defend himself.

      I assume the trial will just be before a judge, and it is therefore rather harder to determine the attitude that Craig will be up against. The judge could be independent, or they could be part of the libel bandwagon. We’ll see, I guess.

  • freddy

    Nickel mining in New Caledonia is a major sector of the New Caledonian economy. The islands contain about 7,100,000 tonnes of nickel which is about 10% of the world’s nickel reserves.
    Nickel is a strategic resource. It is at the core of Superalloys.
    A strange story that France is going to allow New Caledonia to have an Independence Referendum, next year.
    France would love to become part of Five Eyes.
    The French Ears and Eyes for the Pacific are based in New Caledonia.
    I detect a SCAM Election.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41857692

    This “news” is not on France 24 ?

    • freddy

      French nationalism is strong among the territory’s ethnic Europeans – and that was reflected in the votes cast in the French presidential election in May.
      In the first round, in New Caledonia, far-right National Front (FN) leader Marine Le Pen got more than double the votes cast for Emmanuel Macron, who won in the second round. The voting was nearly 30% for Ms Le Pen, 12.76% for Mr Macron.

      • freddy

        I detect that FRANCE has grasped what has happened in Scotland.
        Has grasped what is happening in Catalonia.
        France is going to head the Independistas off at the pass
        by allowing a Referendum.
        SMART

        • Kerch'ee Kerch'ee Coup

          By all accounts, it is much easier for a short-term resident(long term)visitor/blow-in) from Metropolitan France to get on the voters list than for ethnic New Caledonians.

  • tom kane

    Good luck, Craig. You have much more goodwill for what you do than they realise. You’re not just one man with a blog, you’re a man with a very big family. And we are a little shocked by this. I can help again too if needed. And will. Best wishes…. And thanks…

  • Tony_0pmoc

    I think its going to be a good day on Tuesday. Whilst no rain is forecast, it might actually be sunny with a bright shower. I do like rainbows. Even my wife might turn up. I have been to such places before, and attended as a witness. I have also done jury service. I know you have to be on your best behaviour. You have to be completely sober, with no hangover, and no giggling is allowed, even if the events are really funny.

    As we are going to see Robert Plant a few weeks later at The Royal Albert Hall, I thought I would quote a few words, that he didn’t write but sang really well. The lyrics are very old….much older than him or Leadbelly who probably recorded it first around 1940. I think its probably old English.

    “Hangman hangman hold it a little while
    Think I see my friends coming
    Riding many a mile.
    Friends did you get some silver?
    Did you get a little gold?
    What did you bring me my dear friends
    To keep me from the gallows pole?”

    “Leadbelly – The Gallows Pole – Washington D.C., 23 August 1940”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye2N_2ce3QE

    Tony

  • Ian

    It would seem that Mark Lewis has a track record of harassment, bullying and calumny. Hopefully that will be made clear.

  • freddy

    Here we go again, Red Robbo still alive in Scotland
    bbc
    Workers at the giant Shetland Gas Plant are set to launch a series of strikes later this month in a dispute over wages and holiday pay.
    The Unite union said more than 80 staff employed by Aker Solutions at the Total-operated site would stage strikes every Monday and Wednesday from 20 November.
    It claimed the terminal could be forced to shut down as a result of the action.
    Total said it would be able to continue to operate the plant safely.
    The plant processes about 10% of the UK’s gas supply.

  • Doug Scorgie

    Thursday 2nd November 2017
    “Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn has urged “increasing international pressure” to be brought to bear to end Israel’s military occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, in a statement released yesterday evening to mark the Balfour Declaration Centenary. “

    Thursday 2nd November 2017
    Harriet Harman (an anti-Corbyn Blairite) tells an obvious anti-Semitic joke on live TV.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/jewish-charity-demands-apology-from-harriet-harman-over-holocaust-%E2%80%98joke%E2%80%99/ar-AAuoMR1?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartandhp

    • Old Mark

      freddy- The Madrid government has played a monotonous hand in this saga to date- tough cop/tough cop/tough cop, in part because the EU still appears to be backing them to the hilt.

      Craig has expressed distain for Simon Jenkins in the past, but they share an historically pro EU stance that is difficult to sustain given the EU’s handling of this conundrum to date-

      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/03/catalonia-spain-basque-breton-bavaria-europe

      • fred

        If the Spanish police had shouted at somebody the Catalan Nationalist grievance monkeys would have been screaming police brutality, that was their plan from the start.

        In Germany they use water cannon, tear gas, their riot police don’t pussy foot around molly coddling protesters.

        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g20-germany-police/german-police-fire-water-cannon-at-g20-demonstration-idUSKBN19R2Q3

        Have you considered the possibility the Spanish police weren’t just as brutal an the Nationalists would like us to believe? European governments are reacting to the reality not the hype?

        • Habbabkuk

          Fred makes a very fair point and it is a shame that the reaction to it should have been one of mindless abuse.

          Not only the German riot police would have been a damn sight tougher than the Guardia Civil……..

          • Republicofscotland

            Do the German public sing fascist songs and give the Nazi Sieg Heil, as they do in Spain?

            Is it any wonder then the Catalan people are apprehensive, not only have they been beaten and shot for exercising their democratic rights, but they have to watch as Spain incarcerates their leaders, now political prisoners held in Western Europe.

          • fred

            “Not only the German riot police would have been a damn sight tougher than the Guardia Civil……..”

            Those South Yorkshire police we had during the miners strike make Guardia Civil look like Girl Guides.

          • nevermind

            Germany keeps his policing to its own people, otherwise they would be accused of Storm troopers for hire or, going by the tabloid standards here at present,, as a Nazi rent a mob.
            Its sad that both of you ^ can’t see that the EU has failed its very own democratic standards here, they’ve failed to assure the Catalans right to self determination, they are baying with those who fear the disintegration of Europe is down to those few Independent movements, not down to their very own unaccountable decisions.

            What is going to be next the elected Catalan leader shot by a fascist tag team on the streets of Brussels? or even worth arrested by a EU police effort and handed over to the Inquisitors of Spain?

          • fred

            Catalans already have self determination. They vote for both their national Spanish government and also their regional Catalan government. They have more self determination than most people in Europe.

  • Martin S

    Cryzine are saying things about Boris Johnson which at least for the moment are unrepeatable. They give a highly believable explanation of why he’s often so wired in interviews, and (this image they’re putting about on Twitter is great!). But there’s another angle that neither Cryzine nor anyone else appears to be noticing: Johnson has got the Israelis against him.

    His falling into this predicament following the surfacing of the dossier comes at exactly the same moment that he is supposedly banging the table in front of the US, trying to “save the Iran nuclear deal”.

    He is likely to be toast by the end of Monday.

    • nevermind

      He is also very chummy with priti Patel, the charity FoI rogue trader who does stuff the way she likes, not the FO or anybody else.
      Boris knew of her charitable holiday during which she discussed no arms deals or any other policy arrangements that could have a detrimental effect on British foreign policy.
      A woman working behind the lines, is she our very own new Mata Hari?

  • Republicofscotland

    The Labour Party avoided paying tax on £4.3 million worth of profits last year, according to the latest figures from the Electoral Commission.

    The revelation came the same day Jeremy Corbyn announced he will fund £500 billion of investment through tackling tax evasion.

    Mr Corbyn has previously labelled tax avoidance an “evasion of your social responsibilities.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/05/labour-avoided-paying-tax-on-43-million-worth-of-profits-last-ye/

    Oh dear, and Corbyn doesn’t have his troubles to seek, regarding sleazy MP’s. Labour is no saviour of Britain, Scots need to vote for indy.

    • reel guid

      Ros

      It’s ten years ago this month that Labour General Secretary Peter Watt resigned over the party’s Donorgate scandal. Ten years later it’s tax evasion.

      Labour still tacitly supporting Rajoy’s suppression of Catalan democracy. Not a peep of protest from Labour over the Tories’ refusal to name which powers from Brussels will go to Holyrood.

      Every day another Labour parliamentarian is being suspended over misconduct allegations. Fully matching the sleazy Tories.

      Labour. Can’t be trusted with money. Can’t be trusted around women. Can’t be trusted with democracy.

    • Stu

      Are you seriously taking the Telegraph at face value? The story is complete nonsense as a political party cannot create a profit, use your brain.

      If you can’t figure out why the Labour Party doesn’t have a tax bill but the Conservative Party does you should perhaps consider whether there is any value to your contributions.

      • Republicofscotland

        “Are you seriously taking the Telegraph at face value? ”

        Stu.

        Oh please give me a break the unionists have used the Telegraph for years as a whipping stick to beat the SNP and nationalists over independence. It time “we” used it against the unionists.

        Go on Stu, you’re a smart guy prove the story’s wrong.

        Oh and while you’re at it prove this one from earlier on in the year is wrong as well.

        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/28/labour-accused-hypocrisy-blocking-measures-crackdown-86billion/

        • Stu

          I’ve already explained twice. A political party cannot post a profit. It is impossible. It cannot pay a dividend. The party can run a financial surplus but there is no tax applicable to that. If the Conservative Party paid tax it was most likely Capital Gains Tax on profits made from assets. Use some critical thought, the story doesn’t mention which taxes were avoided or how which should be the second alarm bell (the first is that you are reading a right wing rag).

          Your comments about the Telegraph show how myopic your outlook is. Politics is not simply Indy vs Unionists. The Telegraph is a newspaper which exists to promote the economic interests of the British establishment and will tell outright lies about anything which challenges those interests including the SNP and Labour. Progressive minded people should not use it as anything other than a window into the thoughts of elite right wingers.

          The second story is reporting that Labour didn’t allow a massive financial reform bill to pass with only four hours of parliamentary scrutiny before Parliament was dissolved for the election. What is your problem with that?

          • reel guid

            Stu

            It was the Telegraph that broke the expenses scandal stories in 2009. Lots of people all across the political spectrum were prepared to take the paper seriously over that, whether they liked the Telegraph’s political stance or not.

          • Ian

            The Telegraph didn’t any research or reporting on the expenses scandal. They simply bought the information which was being touted around Fleet St. Chequebook journalism at its finest. They don’t deserve any credit for it, especially as their primary motive is to discredit any non-tories. Same as the spreadsheet being circulated now. How funny that people here are so snobbish and dismissive of The Guardian, then take the Telegraph and even the Express at face value, if it suits their agenda. LOL

          • reel guid

            Ian

            I think the Telegraph’s main motive in 2009 was to sell papers. Same as any other paper. And they reported all the many wrongdoings they found out – or bought – about the Tories during the expenses scandal. Any paper can report something of interest to the public whatever the general quality of the journal.

      • Republicofscotland

        Avoided paying tax Stu, according not to the Telegraph, but the Electoral Commission.

        Of course this is the official line.

        Under Section 13A of the Income Tax Act, political parties are exempt from paying Income Tax but are
        required to file their Income Tax returns annually to the Income Tax Department. They enjoy 100% tax
        exemption from all sources of income.

        So why would the Electoral Commission claim that Labour avoided paying.

        Could be something like this, looking at the accounts and companies house, is that they are filed by two different types of entity. Both Labour and the Tories, seem to have some cases affiliated limited companies performing commercial activities.

        It could be the activities of those affiliates that may be limited companies that have triggered tax liabilities and that are consolidated in the parties accounts.

        Of course Stu, I’m sure your explaination will be far more convincing than mine.

    • fred

      Is there a reason why you are posting a link to a news item dated 5th August 2016? It’s hardly news any more.

      • Stu

        It wasn’t even news at the time, It’s complete and utter nonsense! How can does a political party post a taxable profit?

        I’ve always been swithering about whether these two are the same person who feels the need for multiple log ins and I have a very difficult time believing that two different people were both taken in by that tripe.

        • Ian

          How true, the agenda overrides everything else, including the relevance or even truth of these OT posts.

          • Republicofscotland

            You appear to have a grasp of the situation, relevance and truth? since when did they have any bearing on the unionist press and Westminster’s trio of political parties?

          • Shatnersrug

            The SNP have served an excellent purpose….

            For the Tories. Kept Labour out of office for two terms now and brought hell on the poor of Scotland because of it.

            They were a dream for Cameron – secured him a majority.

          • reel guid

            If every SNP seat in 2010, 2015 and 2017 had been won by Labour instead there would still have been a Tory/Lib Dem majority in 2010, a Tory majority in 2015 and a Tory/DUP majority in 2017.

          • reel guid

            It can be added that Labour campaigned with the Tories between 2012 to 2014 for indyref1 to say there would be no health privatisation in the UK. The only way to stay in the EU was to stay in the UK. Made a joint promise with the Tories there would be maximum devo if we voted No.

            Then when Labour got the result they wanted, they quaffed champagne and took selfies with their Tory friends.

            Labour have brought more Tory government and hard brexit on the poor of Scotland. And Trident renewal. Now they’re quietly helping the Francoists establish dictatorship over the good people of Catalonia.

            What a dream Labour are for hard right wingers everywhere

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