Scotland Must Defend Carla Ponsati; Sturgeon Cannot Play Pontius Pilate 1033


It is sickening that Spanish courts continue to jail, and remove from political life, Catalan politicians who are the victors in democratic elections. That the European political class and media is almost entirely complicit and supportive in this truly vicious repression of the Catalan people, has shocked many of us to our core, and made us realise how thin is the veneer of democracy and how fragile are the rights we believed we held.

If the UK were any kind of a democracy, opposition parties would have held firm against the rush to conflict with Russia, until serious and thorough investigation of the Skripal case had yielded real results. At the very least, you would expect to see a select committee of the House of Commons call the head of Porton Down to give evidence and quiz him about the level of certainty they have of the identity and the Russian manufacture of the substance which poisoned the Skripals.

Instead, we have seen all the establishment parties fall over themselves to appear as belligerent and faux-Churchillian as May and her pipsqueaks, in order to placate the tabloids. This is ludicrous. You cannot out-jingo the Tories, and the rush to increase international tension benefits nobody except the armaments and security industries.

I am obliged to say I was disgusted by Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP leadership and their premature condemnations of Russia. By coincidence I spent much of last week at pro-Indy events and I have to say I found this disgust almost universal.

The odd voice was prepared to offer the usual Nicola excuse of “She is trying not to alienate the Unionists”. But what is the point of not alienating the Unionists by, to all intents and purposes, becoming a Britnat yourself? The continued failure – for years now – of the SNP to argue to the public the case for Independence, the attempt to dodge Indyref2, all of it leaves me to feel that the SNP leadership have got their feet under the table within the UK, as a form of controlled opposition.

The SNP leadership are far happier talking about which powers devolve to Holyrood from Brussels, and which stay at Westminster, than they are talking about Independence. I don’t give a damn about the precise contours of the devolution settlement; I want my country to be free of Westminster entirely, and soon.

We are not yet subject to the extreme state repression afflicting our counterparts in Catalonia, but you can be certain the Tories have noted the template, and that other Western political leaders will support them if they start putting people like me in the pokey for thirty years for sedition. Sadly it has become abundantly clear that there is no danger of the highly paid SNP elected representatives, their SPADs, and party bureaucrats, ever putting themselves in that position.

They would be with those handing down the sentences, as their attitude to Carla Ponsati shows.

Just as MEPs lined up one after another in the European Parliament to defend Francoist thugs batoning grandmothers trying to vote as the “rule of law”, and use the same excuse for lengthy sentences for political prisoners, so there was an echo of this distancing in Nicola Sturgeon’s response to the extradition of Catalan campaigner Carla Ponsati through the Scottish courts, potentially to spend the rest of her life in a Spanish jail just for peacefully campaigning for freedom for her country.

Nicola referred to “the fact our justice system is legally obliged to follow due process in the determination of extradition requests”. She too is hiding behind “the rule of law” and thus turning a blind eye to the Francoist attack on fundamental rights.

Very few voters of the SNP put Nicola Sturgeon into parliament in order to warm her toes at the Robert Adam fireplaces at Bute House, while Catalan leaders are dragged from Scotland to a terrible repression. The SNP leadership have become far too adept at speaking with British Establishment voices and thinking with British Establishment minds.

At some stage they have to accept that achieving Scottish Independence is in itself a revolutionary act, and that it will never be achieved without real constitutional conflict with the UK, the sort of political conflict which has attended the birth of every independent state. If you are afraid to do something “unconstitutional” under the present repressive system, you have no right to pretend to be a part of the Independence movement.

For Sturgeon to hide behind the Edinburgh High Tory Scottish legal establishment and wash her hands, Pontius Pilate like, over the extradition of Carla Ponsati is simply unacceptable.

Saving this brave woman is as noble a cause to launch a constitutional crisis as one might wish for. The Holyrood parliament must pass a Bill forbidding the extradition of Ponsati and the Scottish government must order Police Scotland to enforce it. We need finally to show we are serious about challenging the UK. If Sturgeon declines, then the Scottish people must physically defend Ponsati. And the Independence movement must fundamentally reconsider its leadership and strategy.


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  • reel guid

    SNP depute leader candidate James Dornan has been sent a sinister sectarian poster The National reports.
    The MSP was sent the flyer for a “Smash A Fenian Day”.

    Your people, Ruth Davidson of the Tories.

    You encouraged it, James Kelly of Labour.

    • N_

      Can you explain what you’re saying about those Tory and Labour figures?

      I’m not asking to challenge. Am just interested. I’ve certainly come across the amazingly narrow-minded view held by some Scottish Protestant sectarians that everyone who isn’t like them – whether they’re a Buddhist, an atheist, Russian Orthodox, West Indian Baptist, low-church Anglican, whatever – must be a Roman Catholic who isn’t admitting it. The term “boneheaded” could have been coined to describe such people.

      Such empty-brained thugs with big mouths were involved in the Tory election campaign pushing the “Corbyn is IRA” line.

      • N_

        This is one reason why SNP types should aim to take the slow road of persuading people so that a majority of MSPs are elected on the platform of holding a new referendum. The UDA could get their hands on a large number of guns within about five minutes flat. While most of them are lardarses whose horizons stretch only to extorting money from publicans and running loansharking and building-trade rackets, some of them could doubtless learn to shoot fairly straight.

        A Catalan-style referendum and then UDI could lead to civil war in Scotland, which surely no decent person wants. I would much rather either the union with peace or independence with peace than civil war. It would be quite nice if some separatists agreed.

        • MJ

          “A Catalan-style referendum and then UDI could lead to civil war in Scotland”

          It could also lead to the break-up of Scotland itself, with some areas declaring a UDI of their own in order to return to the UK. A bit like Crimea.

        • Paul Barbara

          @ N_ March 28, 2018 at 16:15
          The reason the UDA could get there hands on so many guns so quickly was largely because the British State was surreptitiously enabling it. They’s hardly do that for Scots Nats.

      • reel guid

        N_

        Ruth Davidson’s leadership of Tories in Scotland has seen many Tory councillors and candidates make sectarian statements and jokes on their social media. She strongly hinted last year that she disowns the Good Friday Agreement.

        James Kelly, the Labour MSP, masterminded – I use that verb in his case with the greatest latitude – the repeal of the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act. A piece of legislation that the majority of the public, women’s groups, Police Scotland etc had credited with helping to reduce the scourge of sectarianism in Scotland. But no sooner had Kelly and his allies succeeded in repeal than a sinister group calling themselves the Union Bears took to the streets of Glasgow to show their threatening sectarian banners and union jacks, give Nazi salutes and to let off flares. Now this poster sent to Roman Catholic MSP James Dornan. If Kelly seriously thinks that all that is unconnected to his repeal then he truly is the irresponsible half-wit many of us suspect him of being.

    • Republicofscotland

      Yes reel guid I saw that article, Kelly and the OBFA slayers have opened the monster cage.

  • N_

    Call me old left, but I do have a gut hatred of racists and fascists, whatever garb they choose to adopt.

    Two of the most important “red lines” for the Z__nist lobby are as follows:

    1) the movement for “Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions” against I___el must not be allowed to grow

    2) absolutely no credible part of the political spectrum must call J__ish racism by that name

    Why? Because those are two lines of attack against them that might actually get somewhere.
    Remember, these people view themselves as being at war. This is no joke.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    Let’s hear for New Zealand:s PM: she is not expelling any Russian spies because the country has none.

    • N_

      Some non-chucking countries have “expressed solidarity” with the British government, unfortunately.

      Have journalists been told not to mention Switzerland? *wink*

      None of the BRICS countries have even expressed “solidarity”, not even South Africa. Which may be an indication of how Russia’s international financial and trading policy may change if they decide to take their money out of the London laundry.

    • Dave Lawton

      “Let’s hear for New Zealand:s PM: she is not expelling any Russian spies because the country has none”
      Trowbridge the only ones they did have in New Zealand were French ones when they blew up the Rainbow Warrior.

  • Paul Barbara

    @ Aidworker1 March 28, 2018 at 14:58
    ‘O/T

    Is this is true it’s very worrying:

    https://t.co/QNVvtGBo7b

    Poor Julian’

    I have copied Aidworker1’s comment out again, as it is important that people know Julian Assange’s posiition has dramatically worsened, and that the link he gives has a petition attached, which so far has very few signatures, so needs advertising:
    ‘End Julian Assange’s isolation’: https://www.change.org/p/the-government-of-ecuador-end-julian-assange-s-isolation

  • reel guid

    Ponsati thanked Nicola Sturgeon for her support.

    So the ‘Jesus’ thanks the ‘Pontius Pilate’ for all the help.

    A happy Easter story, eh Craig?

  • Republicofscotland

    Meanwhile this reeks of Theresa May atrempting to shut down anyone who doesnt tow the official line on the Skripal event.

    Craigs blog could be in the firing line.

    “Britain is preparing for a counter-propaganda war against Russia amid allegations that the Kremlin is spreading fake news regarding the poisoning of Sergei Skripal.”

    “Intelligence services will now be tasked with identifying trolling social media platforms in a bid to clamp down on what is deemed by the UK government as ‘misinformation.’ The new instructions are included in the Fusion Doctrine, unveiled as part of the National.”

    https://www.rt.com/uk/422560-national-security-review-propaganda/

    • reel guid

      The Fusion Doctrine? Sounds like the name of a Doctor Who story.

      So the Westminster government will have the power to decide what’s truth and what isn’t and act on it.

      We need Craig’s Blog and every other like it.

  • menechem begin

    limited hang outs provide a vital function within the serco g4s wakenhut operation talpiot collective.
    it is a no brainer to conclude that with the on slow kill recent switch on testing of the new brain docile zombie mobile phone mast zappers
    things will become calmer as the goy are radio frequency prozac zapped
    no brainers goy all

    • Trowbridge H. Ford

      The Guardian is quite unbelievable these days, acting as if Kim’s so-called unofficial visit was just a get together for the families when his came in a many car, armoured train.

      What was in it is the mystery. Could it be a load of coal breaking the sanctions?

      At least the DM cooked up a story about North Korea cooking up its nuclear reactor while it was taking place.

  • Joe

    I think the snp line of thought may be that a show of good strong governance should win people over and increase poll results. However I do think they are mired in this and seem to be holding on a bit long to start to campaign for independence.

  • reel guid

    Tory Immigration Minister Caroline Nokes tells the Westminster Scottish Affairs Committee that she wouldn’t grant any powers to the Scottish Parliament that she wouldn’t give to Lincolnshire County Council.

    Scots were told by the unionist parties to vote No in 2014 and thereby make Scotland lead the UK.

    The reality 4 years later is what that arrogant idiot said.

  • oliver tobias

    it is a no brainer
    it is testing now can you feel it
    5g radio frequency works it will numb the cattle thats a fact you can take that to the bis bank.
    soon it will not matter if sturgeon is a man in drag captured by zionist handlers
    frequency lithium prozac will numb the mind
    no doubt

    as a result limited hang outs will not be needed

  • John Spencer-Davis

    There seems to be a deathly hush about the Jeremy Newmark investigation.

    Last I heard the Jewish Labour Movement had called in the police to investigate its internal financial matters. This originally had nothing to do with Newmark. Then, all of a sudden, it did.

    That was a month ago. Anyone heard any updates?

    J

  • Republicofscotland

    Meanwhile Skripal’s niece Viktoria, says her uncle and cousin will be invalids if they survive.

    A Russian spokesperson hit back saying:

    “Given the lack of official information, every Russian, just like every Briton, is entitled to their own version of events.”

    “Let’s also not forget that at least five different versions of the poisoning have been ‘leaked’ by the police to British media: the Skripals were either poisoned in a pub, or in a restaurant, or in their car, or by putting the chemical into Ms Skripal’s suitcase, or by smearing their door handle.”

    http://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/very-small-chance-of-survival-for-poisoned-spy-and-daughter-says-niece-11364260930191

    • Sharp Ears

      It wasn’t the Green Door.

      Midnight, one more night without sleeping
      Watching till the morning comes creeping
      Green door, what’s that secret you’re keeping?

      There’s an old piano
      And they play it hot behind the green door
      Don’t know what they’re doing
      But they laugh a lot behind the green door
      Wish they’d let me in so I could find out
      What’s behind the green door

      Knocked once, tried to tell them I’d been there
      Door slammed, hospitality’s thin there
      Wonder just what’s going on in there

      Saw an eyeball peeping through a smoky cloud behind the green door
      When I said “Joe sent me”
      Someone laughed out loud behind the green door
      All I want to do is join the happy crowd behind the green door

      Midnight, one more night without sleeping
      Watching till the morning comes creeping
      Green door, what’s that secret you’re keeping?
      Green door, what’s that secret you’re keeping?
      Green door.

      It was the FRONT DOOR.

  • Dave54

    Just read march 6th report in the Salisbury Journal. Says skripol poisoning was from opiods.p

  • Dave Edwards

    So, life under the “Fusion Doctrine”

    Below is just the opening paragraphs from the Guardian news article. I cannot believe where UK seems to be going with this.
    Keep your population fearful. To keep them “safe” bring in new “this will keep you safe” legislation. Of course they will agree.
    Make sure all mainstream media spouts the party line without investigation or question (we have seen this over that last 3 weeks)
    Close down any “fake news” outlets such as Craig Murray’s that don’t tow that party line.
    Destroy the opposition party, by any means, to become a one party state.

    And the opening paragraphs of the article…………
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/27/uk-remain-high-terror-alert-two-years-whitehall-sources-say

    UK to remain on high terror alert for at least two years, sources say.
    Government publishes security review as Whitehall insiders say risk level could rise to critical .
    Britain faces at least two more years of heightened terror alert, with risks from state players including Russia as well as the aftermath of the collapse of Islamic State, Whitehall sources have said.

    Speaking as the government launched its national securitycapability review, the sources said the risk level – currently at severe – could soon rise to critical, thanks to the possible return of scores of Isis fighters to the UK and the potential threat from states such as Russia, North Korea and Iran. Instability in north Africa, Yemen, Sudan and Syria were also said to be causes of concern.

    Unveiling a “fusion doctrine” for tackling national security threats, the prime minister says in the foreword of the review that every part of government and its agencies will have a part to play.

    “Over the past year in the UK we have witnessed appalling terrorist attacks in London and Manchester, but also a brazen and reckless act of aggression on the streets of Salisbury: attempted murder using an illegal chemical weapons, amounting to an unlawful use of force against the UK,” Theresa May says.

    The review was partly a response to last year’s attacks. The Salisbury poisoning came too late to be considered, although sources believe the way it has been handled justifies the approach the review sets out.

    • jazza

      This represents the formal separation of the current government from the very parliamentary position it occupies. Parliament will no longer be the debating chamber of representative democracy rather the ‘playground’ where elected representatives can have playful banter but no legislative power. The electorate is now of no use whatsoever and voting will be ceased. This is the announcement of a dictatorship. This tory government, despite being talentless and arrogant, is taking the law entirely in its own hands with the dissolution of the ‘rule of law’ – strangely, its abuse of the Skirpal incident is a good measure of how overturning ‘innocence until proved guilty’ will no longer be the modus operandi – this surely is treachery of the highest order, TREASON.

  • Paul Barbara

    ‘UPDATE 3-Kenyan columnists resign accusing government of interference’:
    https://af.reuters.com/article/africaTech/idAFL8N1R90OX?

    ‘…Columnists from Kenya’s top media group resigned en masse on Tuesday accusing it of letting the government interfere with editorial decisions, a charge the publisher denied.
    Eight writers of opinion pieces accused management at Nation Media Group (NMG) – which publishes the Daily Nation, Kenya’s most widely read paper – of being too close to the ruling party.
    “We refuse to continue to clothe the loss of editorial independence and media freedom at the NMG with respectability,” the columnists said in a statement on Twitter. The said it appeared the executive was able “to influence who works for or contributes” to the papers.
    The paper issued a statement later on Tuesday saying it wanted “to reassure our readers and stakeholders that we continue to be committed to media freedom”.
    There was no immediate comment from the government……’

    Our MSM journalists could learn a thing or two about integrity from their Kenyan colleagues.

  • John Spencer-Davis

    Police say the Skripals were poisoned at the front door.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/28/russian-hit-squad-put-nerve-agent-sergei-skripals-front-door/

    Sounds rather odd to me. One would have thought that if this poison were as deadly as is stated, and the Skripals picked it up before they left home, if should have taken effect more quickly. They had to drive to the city centre, get to the restaurant and spend an hour and a half or so there before collapsing. I do not know how plausible that is. I also wonder if Mr Skripal’s daughter was smaller and slighter than he was, and if that has any effect on how quickly a nerve agent acts.

    J

    • John Spencer-Davis

      By the way, the police may be aware that the front door was the source of the poison, but did they actually disclose that it was a “Russian hit squad that did it”, or is that an unwarranted assumption by the Telegraph, I wonder.

      J

      • Rhys Jaggar

        The Telegraph is literally wired into MI6 HQ: it has been known as the Spooks Paper for decades.

        The Telegraph shut down BTL comment long before the Guardian as the PTB were fuming at how the Party Line was being mercilessly ripped up by readers comments.

        Assume the DT is spouting MI6 playbooks until proven otherwise…

    • John Spencer-Davis

      This Telegraph reporter’s Twitter account has been suspended: @RobertMendick. No idea why. Pity: I have a question or two for him. J

    • Sharp Ears

      I thought of ‘Listen with Mother’ when I heard Corera reading out the latest episode in this ‘story’ on the BBC 10 pm ‘ news’.

      ‘Are you sitting comfortably? Then I’ll begin.’

    • Agent Green

      Nerve agents of this kind are supposed to kill within minutes with just a tiny drop on the skin. If it was on the door, how did they manage to drive around for hours and then eventually collapse? It doesn’t make sense.

      • fred

        If you were developing a nerve agent for the purposes of assassination don’t you think it would be sensible to make it so that it would be absorbed more slowly to give the assassin time to get away?

          • Charles

            The story that is being told by the British government is that Russia tried to kill one or both of the Skripals (may yet be successful) and wanted the world to know it was Russia wot did it but not be able to prove it.

            The British goverment grabbed at Putin’s bait and replied “we don’t need proof”

            Two dozen more countries also fell for Putin’s trap.

            Putin won this round hands down. Or am I missing something?

          • Agent Green

            So this assassin would still want his target to be able to drive around for hours, have lunch, wander about and then collapse at some undefined time in the future?

            All sounds a bit unprofessional to me. Not at all tidy. And we are saying that top Russian agents did this? Don’t make me laugh.

        • John Spencer-Davis

          Wouldn’t seem to matter very much if it was applied remotely through a door handle. The Russian hit men presumably sprayed it in the middle of the night and cleared off. Or something.

          That does not seem to be the consensus of how these nerve agents work. Everyone seems to agree they work very quickly. I don’t know if it would be possible to develop a slower acting one.

          J

          • Kempe

            As always the key factor is the dose. The fact that the weather was cold would also have had an effect. One Russian scientist accidently exposed to this stuff during it’s development lingered on in increasingly poor health for five years.

          • fred

            I think if you can make a nerve agent you can make a slow acting one.

            I also think the very fact of who the victim was would be enough for them to start pulling people into side rooms at airports if they thought the assassin was still in the country.

            With Alexander Litvinenko by the time he had taken ill and they had worked out what had happened the assassin was out of the country and Russia refuses to extradite him to stand trial.

          • fred

            @james

            But it is impossible to prove anything to the useful idiots, they ignore all the evidence and create their own reality as they go along. Even if there is a smoking gun they will say “planted by MI5”. If there is an inquiry it will either say what they want to hear or it was rigged. Any news reports they don’t like will be down to MSM (and especially BBC) lies. They can accuse the government, the security services, the media, of anything they like including murder and t must be accepted as fact on their say so but say a word about Russia and they scream “guilty until proven innocent”.

      • Sinister Burt

        It’s only the ‘military grade’ aerosols that act super quickly – as far as i understand, if it’s absorbed through the skin or ingested it can still take a good while to work, like 40 minutes or more (though granted not as long as the previously reported time (a couple of hours?) between leaving the house going to the restaurant and all that). If it is that slow acting it makes the phrase ‘military grade’ a bit dubious.

        • Bill Marsh

          If the poison was administered via the door handle some time before the incident it seems strange that it affected both parties at exactly the same time given the differences in their age, weight, height, etc.

  • Ray Visino

    How shocking that the leader who wants independence from an unjust power has betrayed someone in a similar position and wanting their independence.

    • kathy

      To be fair, there is nothing that she can realistically do since she has no power over foreign affairs since that is reserved to Westminster. This situation is an example of why Scotland needs independence.

    • fred

      Not long back I was hearing about how the Nationalists wanted to remain a part of the European community and how it was so important Scotland would have to break away from the rest of Britain to achieve it.

      Now I’m hearing that Nationalists only want to abide by the rules of this European community when it suites them. They only want the benefits, they don’t want any commitments, their nationalism is more important than the rule of law.

  • David Otness

    Retweeted Julian Assange ⌛ (@JulianAssange):

    In 1940 the elected president of Catalonia, Lluís Companys, was captured by the Gestapo, at the request of Spain, delivered to them and executed. Today, German police have arrested the elected president of Catalonia, Carles Puigdemont, at the request of Spain, to be extradited.

  • Charles

    In the past 3 ½ weeks the British government have answered some very important questions, albeit the media has played down the facts;

    Q. Was it definitely Putin’s government that poisoned the Skripals
    A. No

    Q. Did the poison definitely come from Russia?
    A. No

    Q. What is the poison?
    A. We are not sure but think it is or something that some people refer to as a Novichok

    Q. Who can make Novichoks or something like them?
    A. Anyone with the right knowledge, equipment and materials

    Q. Not just a Country or State then?
    A. That’s right.

    Q. Do Britain possess Novichoks or something like them?
    A. Yes

  • N_

    Police in majority-Albanian Kosovo arrested senior Serbian government official Marko Duric on Monday and frogmarched him through the street before expelling him.

    Albania is in NATO and the Albanian government has joined the Dirty Chuckers, saying it will expel two Russian diplomats.

    TASS accuse Britain of having launched a campaign to “foment confrontation and display power” close to Russia’s borders.

    Kosovo isn’t near Russia’s borders, but I would advise against buying tickets for the World Cup matches in Kaliningrad.

  • N_

    The Daily Mail, the Torygraph and Sky are reporting the opinion of Sergei Skripal’s neighbour Ross Cassidy, whom they call Sergei Skripal’s “best friend”, that both Sergei and Yulia Skripal should be allowed to die. The Skripals have family in Russia as the British authorities are well aware, despite the recent judgment by a judge called David “I’m a Dishonest Turd” Williams. The family should be contacted, and the way to do that is through the Russian consulate. That is one of the things a consulate is for.

    Mr Cassidy is a haulage contractor. I wonder whether he does any international work and if so, to or from which countries. He is the owner of the Isuzu vehicle that was removed 15 days after the attack He used it to drive Sergei Skripal to collect his daughter at Heathrow. He should keep his opinion to himself.

    • BrianFujisan

      Unless He is Kept out of ‘ the Loop ‘ or just Plain Brave..Yet another Unknown..Or Known.. Because Mr Cassidy..must have other Neibhours…Speak up.

    • Paul Barbara

      @ N_ March 29, 2018 at 01:10
      And Hopalong claims to have introduced Skripal to beer, and that Skripal introduced him to vodka.
      So they don’t have beer in Russia, already?
      Also, I got bad vibes from his photo – I’m quite sensitive to that sort of thing.
      It is absolutely disgusting that HMG has refused Consular access to at least Skripal’s daughter, and extremely strange that someone from Russia – even the daughter’s boy friend, do not appear to have requested to see her.
      If they have, why is not Russia publicly protesting on their behalf?

    • giyane

      N_
      Most people are ‘contractors’ nowadays. In the UK you have to get taxed somehow and limited company status allows you to claim expenses. It also allows HMG to say you are employed and cross you off the unemployment list. The criminals in power instinctively detest the extension of aristocratic freedom that is extended to directors of limited companies in this country and would never trust one of these uncontrolled uncontrollable feral idealists with any of their criminal psy-ops. Please get off his case.

  • Freddy

    That Bulgarian lady is really something.

    And she’s got cojones of steel

    “Guinea pigs were found in the house of the poisoned ex-spy in Salisbury, just a few kilometers away from Porton Down, where such guinea pigs were used for nerve agent chemical tests … ”

    SPECIAL REPORT
    REVEALED: Pentagon’s $70 Million Chemical & Biological Program at Porton Down in UK
    http://21stcenturywire.com/2018/03/28/revealed-pentagons-70-million-chemical-biological-program-at-porton-down-in-uk/

    • Kerch'ee Kerch'ee Coup

      Freddy,
      Highly informative link and better and more comprehensive than almost all the bilge put out in these Disunited Kingdoms .BTW. are D-Notices in effect here so that meaning full information our hacks do find is sometimes passed on to the Irish or other foreign colleagues.?Following Dilyana’s dismissal over the story of Bulgarian weapons turning up in ‘jihadist’ arsenals in Syria, she seems to be getting by and producing excellent investigations.

    • giyane

      Paul Barbara
      I had a chuckle yesterday when 2 council workers were cleaning the street. It was only a few years ago the BBC were trying to persuade us that street cleaners were used to spy on us, rather than the obvious, our mobile phones. Oh, you can fool some of the people some of the time but they’ve long ago failed to fool us. Oh! what a tangled web we weave : When first we practice to deceive!

      The West and Russia and Saudi Arabia are all now up to their necks in lies about this poisoning trash. I would imagine it’s fairly routine for clients of the intelligence agencies to get new identities after participating in media-spot-lighted false flag attacks. If they weren’t willing participants, and they die, nobody checks every cup of tea, every glass of water or free cigarette. It’s completely bonkers brainwashing when people talk about Putin wanting to leave his signature on this poisoning. Ve have vays of making the fake nevs fit.
      All these wholly-owned waste of space politicians are lying through their teeth. They want a pretext for war in Syria. Yawn, seen it all before, boring as Bollywood.

    • Agent Green

      Probably understood that it would be pointless. Whichever intelligence agency wanted to kill him would not be stopped or even hindered by such systems.

    • TonyT16

      The anti-Russian political hysteria seems to be a double-edged sword. Whittingdale and Fox now in potential trouble for alleged kickbacks for favours.

      For all the Tory and MSM hoohaa, ‘Novichok’ (or whatever T.May, B.Johnson and G.Williamson decided to call it) doesn’t seem much good and doesn’t do what it says on the tin. Nerve agents are allegedly capable of flattening the population of a city the size of Salisbury in the blink of an eye. This one has taken weeks so far to deal with its targets and managed to hurt only one other person, who seems quite well considering. According to other reports, an expert chemist could make some in his/her lab using components bought from the local garden centre and a branch of Boots – no need to do the work in Russia putting the components together.

      What is T. May’s end strategy?

      • John Goss

        Thanks Sharp Ears.

        I am glad if Yulia Skripal is improving. Again it is not the doctors giving briefings on the health of the Skripals but the NHS trust. Have they seen any doctors?

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