Boris Johnson A Categorical Liar 1862


Evidence submitted by the British government in court today proves, beyond any doubt, that Boris Johnson has been point blank lying about the degree of certainty Porton Down scientists have about the Skripals being poisoned with a Russian “novichok” agent.

Yesterday in an interview with Deutsche Welle Boris Johnson claimed directly Porton Down had told him they positively identified the nerve agent as Russian:

You argue that the source of this nerve agent, Novichok, is Russia. How did you manage to find it out so quickly? Does Britain possess samples of it?

Let me be clear with you … When I look at the evidence, I mean the people from Porton Down, the laboratory …

So they have the samples …

They do. And they were absolutely categorical and I asked the guy myself, I said, “Are you sure?” And he said there’s no doubt.

I knew and had published from my own whistleblowers that this is a lie. Until now I could not prove it. But today I can absolutely prove it, due to the judgement at the High Court case which gave permission for new blood samples to be taken from the Skripals for use by the OPCW. Justice Williams included in his judgement a summary of the evidence which tells us, directly for the first time, what Porton Down have actually said:

The Evidence
16. The evidence in support of the application is contained within the applications
themselves (in particular the Forms COP 3) and the witness statements.
17. I consider the following to be the relevant parts of the evidence. I shall identify the
witnesses only by their role and shall summarise the essential elements of their
evidence.
i) CC: Porton Down Chemical and Biological Analyst
Blood samples from Sergei Skripal and Yulia Skripal were analysed and the
findings indicated exposure to a nerve agent or related compound. The samples
tested positive for the presence of a Novichok class nerve agent OR CLOSELY RELATED AGENT.

The emphasis is mine. This sworn Court evidence direct from Porton Down is utterly incompatible with what Boris Johnson has been saying. The truth is that Porton Down have not even positively identified this as a “Novichok”, as opposed to “a closely related agent”. Even if it were a “Novichok” that would not prove manufacture in Russia, and a “closely related agent” could be manufactured by literally scores of state and non-state actors.

This constitutes irrefutable evidence that the government have been straight out lying – to Parliament, to the EU, to NATO, to the United Nations, and above all to the people – about their degree of certainty of the origin of the attack. It might well be an attack originating in Russia, but there are indeed other possibilities and investigation is needed. As the government has sought to whip up jingoistic hysteria in advance of forthcoming local elections, the scale of the lie has daily increased.

On a sombre note, I am very much afraid the High Court evidence seems to indicate there is very little chance the Skripals will ever recover; one of the reasons the judge gave for his decision is that samples taken now will be better for analysis than samples taken post mortem.

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The state and corporate media now have evidence of the vast discrepancy between what May and Johnson are saying, and the truth about the Porton Down scientists’ position. I am afraid to say I expect this to make no difference whatsoever to the propaganda output of the BBC.


1,862 thoughts on “Boris Johnson A Categorical Liar

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  • DiggerUK

    Carruthers should turn this into a murder mystery for the Salisbury amdrams…_

  • Dave54

    Something not right here, a lot of the photos of julia end sergei skripal have been credited to east2west media group. Even the photo of viktoria skripal in the daily mail of 29 march is from east2west news. East2west media group is based in georgia usa and specialise in photos and videos…

  • Mary Paul

    Still do not see how they are going to square the circle: two victims of a Novichok agent recovering.

    • Brian Davey

      Mary Paul – How about “because Porton Down developed antidotes which is why they need more money”? I am not saying that happened but it would square the circle enough for most people who take their opinions and worldview from the newspapers..

      • Mary Paul

        But to develop antidotes they would need originals to test on, and they have denied that . To date anyway.

        • Dave54

          Doesn’t Macron hate the russians, didn’t wikileaks release some damaging emails on macron just before the french presidential elections which were never published in msm and i could find no trace on the internet….also didn’t polly boiko of RT get banned from access to macron’s news conferences?

  • Dave54

    Just read sunday times april 1 2018, skripol case not mentioned in entire paper….small anti-putin article on page 29, says “recent nerve agent attack in salisbury which could have cost the lives of many people”…nothing in the letters to the editor section…main news is all anti corbyn, disgraceful full page photo montage of anti semitic quotes he hasn’t made on page 9…really disgusted.

    • Mary Paul

      This is my point, there is some sort of blackout being imposed on the story. This is not just disinterest by the press. In normal circumstances there would be at least a two page story and a map showing the contaminated areas, but some “informed” opinion.

      • Mary Paul

        sorry should have read “plus” some informed opinion in above comment, not “but” above.

        • Dave54

          Imagine the fallout if/when the truth comes out…will Boris and May resign and corbyn become pm?

  • Paul Barbara

    ‘Four days to declare a Cold War’: http://www.voltairenet.org/article200232.html

    ‘The British government and certain of its allies, including US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, have attempted to launch a Cold War against Russia.
    Their plan was to fabricate an attack against an ex-double agent in Salisbury and at the same time a chemical attack against the « moderate rebels » in the Ghouta. The conspirators’ intention was to profit from the efforts of Syria to liberate the suburbs of its capital city and the disorganisation of Russia on the occasion of its Presidential election. Had these manipulations worked, the United Kingdom would have pushed the USA to bomb Damascus, including the Presidential palace, and demand that the United Nations General Assembly exclude Russia from the Security Council……’

    ‘…Meanwhile, a debate was under way at the UN Security Council concerning the situation in the Ghouta. The permanent representative for the US, Nikki Haley, declared – « About one year ago, after the sarin gas attack perpetrated in Khan Cheïkhoun by the Syrian régime, the United States warned the Council. We said that faced with the systematic inaction of the international community, states are sometimes obliged to act on their own. The Security Council did not react, and the United States bombed the air base from which al Assad had launched his chemical attack. We are reiterating the same warning today ».
    The Russian Intelligence Services handed out documents from the US staff. They showed that the Pentagon was ready to bomb the Presidential palace and the Syrian Ministries, on the model of what it had done during the taking of Baghdad (3 to 12 April 2003)….’

    ‘…Bypassing the official diplomatic channels, Russian Chief of Staff General Valeri Guerassimov contacted his US counterpart General Joseph Dunford to inform him of his fear of a false flag chemical attack in Ghouta. Dunford took this information vey seriously, and alerted US Defense Secretary General Jim Mattis, who referred the matter to President Donald Trump. In view of the Russian insistence that this piece of foul play was being prepared without the knowledge of the Pentagon, the White House asked the Director of the CIA, Mike Pompeo, to identify those responsible for the conspiracy.
    We do not know the result of this internal enquiry, but President Trump acquired the conviction that his Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, was implicated. The Secretary of State was immediately asked to interrupt his official journey in Africa and return to Washington….’

    So that’s how poor old Tillerson ‘bit the dust’, jobwise. And if the article is correct, a Syrian headchopper’s ‘CW False Flag op will not reap the expected Western attack on Damascus.
    Poor old May, Johnson, Williamson and all – Russia 2 – 0 Fools & Knaves (UK).

  • Mary Paul

    I am still puzzled as to what made Macron change his mind, after France’s initial response to the poisoning was that they would wait to study the evidence. This is the report that appeared in Euronews from a Reuters correspondent on 15 March:

    “France said on Thursday it agreed with Britain that Russia was behind a nerve agent attack on a Russian ex-spy in England”, President Emmanuel Macron’s office said in a statement. “Since the beginning of the week, the United Kingdom has kept France closely informed of the evidence gathered by British investigators and evidence of Russia’s responsibility in the attack,” the president’s Elysee office said, following a phone call between Macron and British Prime Minister Theresa May.

    “France agrees with the United Kingdom that there is no other plausible explanation and reiterates its solidarity with its ally,” the statement said. A few hours later on Thursday, France, Germany, the UK and the US released a joint statement blaming Russia for the attack on Sergei Skripal and his daughter in Salisbury, southern England, saying the case “threatens the security of us all”.

    • Dave54

      Doesn’t Macron hate the russians, didn’t wikileaks release some damaging emails on macron just before the french presidential elections which were never published in msm and i could find no trace on the internet….also didn’t polly boiko of RT get banned from access to macron’s news conferences?

  • John Goss

    As to the photograph a Russian blog “Notes of a Happy Pessimist” says it is a pizzeria,

    https://rovego.livejournal.com/7805126.html

    The author asks who is the photographer in the mirror and that his business there is not know. He also notes that there are two glasses and a bottle on the table. He also says that there is at least one person who does not drink beer.

    My take is that they have just sat down in the restaurant for an appetizer. It looks like Yulia is drinking something like Irish Coffee. As well as the bottle on the table there is a bottle on ice to the left. Looks like they might be settling down for a session! Photos I’ve seen of Zizzi’s do not make it a likely candidate nor those of The Mill. Surely someone from Salisbury knows where it is.

    • Billy Bostickson

      Don’t get your hopes up, I asked people to help me identify the wine bottle in one photo, and zilch.

      Talking of identification, here’s a nice little puzzle for Brother Cadfael or even Watson:

      I have been trying to identify the boyfriend and parents again after the information published in mk.ru by Lev Speransky and Ekaterina Sveshnikova (http://www.mk.ru/politics/2018/03/25/otravlenie-sergeya-skripalya-my-nashli-strannogo-boyfrenda-yulii.html) made me doubt my original identification.

      I identified a new person but would like someone else to have a go and see who they come up with.

      Here are the clues:

      The article states that they use a pseudonym for the boyfriend, “Stanislav”, although they know his name.

      Who is Stas?

      He is an economist by training, graduate of the State University of Management.

      In 2014 he defended his thesis at the Moscow State University at the Department of Economic Sociology and Marketing of the Faculty of Sociology.

      Later he published a number of articles on social investment.

      However, Stanislav writes not only scientific works, but also poems ..

      On the Internet there is a whole collection of his works. Verses here for every taste – there are philosophical, and love lyrics, and even religious.

      Stanislav’s mother before the country was marked by the government’s honorary diploma in 2008.

      she was in charge of the enterprise of the Federal Agency for State Reserves for the Central Federal District.

      since 2014, she heads an NGO with an authorized capital of 5 million rubles.

      area of ​​activity is development in the field of corporate security systems, integrated technical control, as well as scientific research in the core field.

      In the same structure, Stanislav himself works.

      We do not pretend to assert, but it is very likely that the enterprise is closely connected with the power structures.

      mother did not really welcome the son’s relationship with Julia.

      friends called Stas. He prefers not to discuss the situation and limited communication – his phone does not answer calls from unfamiliar numbers, he also ignores the messages from the journalists of “MK”.

      We visited the family of Stanislav in Podolsk near Moscow,

      Stanislav’s mother, as she told about herself, works as a chief accountant.

      Every morning at exactly 7.00 near the entrance it is waiting for a jeep with a personal driver.

      father had surgery on the heart, he sits at home. Now, probably, they are at the dacha.

      – What can you say about Stanislav?

      “A fine young man!” Helped us to repair the computer.

      The last time he was seen on March 20 in a black “Land Rover” on a paid parking near the house.

      Come on, resident Russian experts, see who you can find!

      • G.Bng

        I also read the photo was not from 4th March and that it was from Yulia’s facebook page.

        In respect of who took the photograph today’s press has several pictures of the brother Alexander and even though
        there is only a part reflection of the photographer in the mirror comparing photos I would say it was most certainly him.

      • G.Bng

        If you are still looking for the make of wine the photo in the link below shows the full label. The name begins with TA… and it has a logo of a bulls head, (so probably of Spanish origin), in the centre top of the label very similar to “Toro Loco” wines, sold in many places including Aldi. However, and even though the photo isn’t good enough to successfully zoom it doesn’t appear to have the iconic corkscrew underneath the head part of the Toro Loco brand logo so it probably not Toro Loco merely a copycat.

        Link: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sergei-skripals-daughter-poisoned-just-12292621

  • Billy Bostickson

    Thanks to John Helmer in Moscow for having the courage to report this (I asked him to help):

    The British public telephone is two years short of a century old. The Salisbury Hospital has dismantled the outdoor models because it is now possible for patients to receive and make telephone calls from their bedside. The hospital has contracted with a company called Hospedia to provide patients with personal access to telephones (television, internet, games too). The patients must pay.

    The business of overcharging them for incoming and outgoing calls was such a corrupt scandal, Hospedia’s predecessor company went bankrupt. The Royal Bank of Scotland took over the assets, and then went even more corruptly bankrupt itself. So the bank sold the hospital telephone business to Marlin Equity Partners. That company presently controls most British hospital patient telephones; it is an American group specializing in investment in signal and cyber operations of every sort. It is based in Los Angeles and London.

    If you are Yulia Skripal, you are likely to want to use Salisbury Hospital’s Hospedia telephone system to call home in Moscow. There she has a family consisting of a grandmother and a cousin; an uncle lives in St. Petersburg and another cousin in Primorye. All of them have been identified by name and address in the Russian press. Yulia Skripal also has a fiancé with whom she was living, and about whom considerable detail of his marital intentions, occupation, mother, father, home address and black Land Rover have also been published. Their 90-second telephone call before Yulia took off on her fateful Aeroflot flight to London on March 3 has been published. So have details of her father Sergei’s request that she bring him packages of kasha and bay leaf in her luggage. Even the address of the pet hotel where Yulia Skripal’s dog Noir is staying at Rb800 per day is reported in the free Russian press.

    Two Moscow reporters have specialized in this investigation – Lev Speransky and Yekaterina Sveshnikova. They have also published excerpts from the Skripal family photo album. Their evidence is that Yulia Skripal is human enough to want to call home.

    However, she cannot do so. Salisbury Hospital officials, who have confirmed her capacity to listen and speak by telephone, will not say why.

    On March 22, a High Court judge ruled in London that Yulia Skripal was almost totally incapacitated. She was alive, comatose, stable medically, but “unable to communicate in any meaningful way… It is not possible to say when or to what extent Mr or Ms Skripal may regain capacity.” For the court judgement, click to open. For the larger story of the court proceeding, read this.

    High Court Justice David Williams (right) repeatedly decided he knew what the Skripals would want if they could talk. He wrote that they “would wish for the further analysis [of blood samples]”; that testing for poison was what they “would wish be conducted and they would want to assist in that by providing samples”; that they “would be likely to want to support the work of the international body [Organization for the Prevention of Chemical Weapons] set up by international law knowing that its processes are unimpeachable”; and “they would want to support the UK Government in taking steps on the international plane to hold those responsible to account.”

    Despite this volubility of the Skripals, the judge didn’t say whether they would wish to use the telephone to take a call or make a call with their next of kin. He ruled instead that in their comatose state, “it did not appear practicable or appropriate to seek the views of others who might be interested in the welfare of Mr Skripal (his mother perhaps) or Ms Skripal’s (perhaps a fiancé).”

    Williams wrote that on March 22. Three days later, Speransky and Sveshnikova reported in Moskovsky Komsomolets (MK) how the court and the hospital could get in contact with both Skripal’s mother, Yulia’s grandmother, and Yulia’s fiancé. By then, and for several days earlier, Yulia’s Moscow cousin Victoria Skripal had reportedly made telephone contact with Salisbury Hospital and with the Russian Ambassador to the UK, Alexander Yakovenko. Yakovenko requested proofs of Victoria’s identity and relationship, and Victoria has told reporters Speransky and Sveshnikova that she provided them.

    Justice Williams also ruled there was no legal obligation for the Russian Embassy in London to be informed by the hospital or the government “pursuant to Articles 36 and 37 of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations of 24 April 1963 as Ms Skripal is a Russian national.” The reason the judge gave was that because Article 37 had not been incorporated in domestic British law, it did not apply to the case of Yulia Skripal.

    Noone in court challenged this. Neither the court-appointed lawyer for Skripal, Vikram Sacheva, nor the judge appears to have known that a bilateral consular convention between the United Kingdom and the Soviet Union was ratified by the British parliament and became legally binding domestic law in 1968; it is much more explicit than the Vienna Convention. The treaty text, signed in Moscow in 1965 and presented to the House of Commons in November 1968, can be read here.

    Russian Embassy access to Yulia Skripal is required by Articles 30, 31(f), 35 and 36. The last of these is the most explicit. In British statutes the word “shall” means must — obligatory, mandatory, required, no discretion allowed.

    For a detailed review of the law, read Alexander Mercouris.

    Article 36(1)(a) makes it illegal under British law for the British Government to prevent Russian Embassy officials from having access to Yulia Skripal in hospital directly or indirectly. One of the indirect measures the Russian Embassy has yet to take is the engagement of British lawyers to represent her in a court action for habeas corpus and to require the Home Office to justify to a judge the restrictions they have imposed on Skripal at the hospital; for details, read this.

    The second sub-section of the Article makes it illegal for the Salisbury Hospital to prevent Yulia Skripal communicating with Russian Embassy officials in London and their lawyers, or vice versa.

    On March 29, the hospital reported she was “improving rapidly and is no longer in a critical condition. Her condition is now stable. Her father remains in a critical but stable condition.” The British state radio has reported “separate sources that Ms Skripal is conscious and talking.”

    Following these reports, the head of the hospital Cara Charles-Barks (right) and her two press spokesmen were asked what telephone contact Yulia Skripal has made with her next of kin in Moscow. They are refusing to answer. They were also asked to clarify the hospital’s policy on contact between patients and next of kin, and to give their legal authority for blocking communication between Yulia Skripal and her next of kin in Russia. They do not reply.

    Yesterday Speransky reported that cousin Victoria Skripal is applying for her international passport so she can travel to Salisbury. She has yet to file for a British visa. “I hope I will be able to understand something there on the place,” Victoria Skripal told the newspaper.

    http://johnhelmer.net/yulia-skripal-is-not-allowed-to-telephone-her-grandmother/

  • Billy Bostickson

    A photo has been published of Skripal’s missing girlfriend, Nelly: http://www.mk.ru/upload/entities/2018/04/01/articlesImages/image/28/7c/38/94/6adf4a8ca74218515ca18e72341d3057.jpg

    There’s another woman named Nelly.” Have you seen a photo of social networks where Julia is standing, a woman of short stature with a square and Sergey Viktorovich? So that could be it. Nelly was the leading gynecologist of the USSR. When Sergei Viktorovich was a diplomat, he was in charge of medicine. So I met her. Her husband is also a medic and also died. I know that she came to Uncle Seryozha

    • Mary Paul

      I thought his girlfriend was British and lived in Salisbury? Maybe I have got confused.

      • Billy Bostickson

        Me too! I think that’s the aim, infobesity, information overload, cognitive dissonance, bystander syndrome or suitcases, porridge, bay leaves, BMW door handles, perfume, aerosols, etc…

        • Maggie Phelan

          Absolutely on the nose Billy… Cognitive dissonance – tick.
          Because the sheep have had an information overload.
          They have all on keeping a job and amusing the kids to bother.
          Either that or they have zoned out on booze and drugs.
          Plus they have seen it and heard it all before. 7/7? Woolwich?
          We were all whipped into a frenzy by the MSM presstitutes, frothing at the mouth for vengeance, and then…….
          Armed Forces recruitment drive never did so well.

  • Mary Paul

    We have all noted how diplomatic language is very carefully phrased to tell only that part of the truth we are supposed to know. Russia has been careful to state on various forums, that Russia destroyed its stock pile of chemical weapons, supervised by the OPCW and that it does not have Novichok and Russia is not developing it.

    At the time the Russian chemical stockpile was destroyed, Novichok was not listed as a specific chemical weapon. And Russia may well be telling the truth when it says it does not have chemical weapons now and Russia is not developing Novichok, but what if Syria is doing it for them, by proxy? Then they would still be telling the truth, just not all of it.

    As I pointed out previously, the SSRC laboratory (known as CERS) in Syria has long been accused of having a chemical weapons research programme. “Jane’s Information Group Intelligence Services and other analysts believe [CERS] is responsible for research and development of nuclear, biological, chemical and missile technology and weapons, including ballistic missiles, as well as advanced conventional arms. Western intelligence agencies believe that the Syrian procurement structure for biological and chemical weapons uses the Scientific Studies and Research Center as cover. The center has received the required expertise, technology and materials from Russian sources to produce VX nerve gas. Wikipedia].

    In a recent interview, Boris Veledensky, a former GRU agent like Skripal, says that CRES is run with the aid of Russian money, technology and scientists. And Russia has continuously vetoed UN resolutions for the OPCW to investigate the use of chemical weapons in Syria. Syria.https://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/16/middleeast/un-syria-chemical-weapons-russia-veto/index.html

    So it is possible that another country eg Syria could be developing it, while Russia can genuinely claim that it is not.

    I am not saying Russia carried out the attack, I still cannot hazard a guess who did it as it does not make sense on any rational level for anyone to have done it. Neither side seems to me to be telling the truth about the events surrounding it. My sister and my son represent totally opposite sides of the political spectrum. Both believe it was the work of rogue elements in the Russian secret service.

    • Pyotr Grozny

      I very much like your opening sentence. Does ‘of a type developed by Russia’ then mean that Russia continued to develop, even if in a small way, something originally developed by the USSR ?

    • Paul Barbara

      @ Mary Paul April 2, 2018 at 17:23
      Both Russia and Syria have bent over backwards to get proper Chemical Weapons investigations done in Syria, time and time again.
      The reason Russia vetoed that resolution was because of the way it was worded, and the way investigations were done.

      ‘…Russian objections
      Nebenzia said Russia’s issue was not with the work of the investigators, but with their mandate. Russia vetoed an October resolution to extend the mandate, saying the group is prejudiced against Russia, and on Thursday the ambassador again cited “flaws” with the investigators’ work.
      “There was nothing balanced in the US draft resolution. There was nothing balanced there,” Nebenzia told the council.
      Russia put forward its own resolution on extending the mandate, but it was rejected after receiving only three votes in favor….’

      ‘Statement by the Foreign Ministry in connection with attempts to distort Russia’s position regarding the vote on a Draft UN Security Council Resolution to Extend the Mandate of the Joint Investigative Mechanism’:
      http://russiaun.ru/en/news/zayvpojim

      I have no doubt all the CW attacks in Syria have been False Flag provocations by the West’s proxy mercenary headchoppers, as are reputable investigative journalists who have been there many times such as Vanessa Beeley and Eva Bartlett (if you are not familiar with their work, I suggest you search out some of their reports and videos).

      As for Syria making nerve gases for Russia, you have to be joking. Russia would risk that, knowing Western and Israeli Intel are watching Syria like hawks (or rather, like vultures)?
      All it takes is a decent lab and the know-how; if Russia wanted to make the stuff, they could do so in Russia with no problems at all.

      I think we know who runs the UN – the man who pays the piper calls the tune, so it won’t be easy to get an unprejudiced result from them.

    • G.Bng

      I don’t think there is much possibility that Syria is developing chemical weapons… not with Israel next door. Take into account that the Russian vetoes against the OPCW investigating the various alleged uses of CWs by the Syrian state (or by the Assad regime whichever if you prefer) is not an outright veto on the basis of nothing more than because they can, but a caveated one since Russia has tried to include conditions that would make the investigation more open, independent, and fairer and not just another exercise by the West so as to give another excuse for them to bomb Syria and force regime change as they did with Iraq, Libya, etc.

  • John Goss

    By a piece of detective work I am pretty sure that the photograph of the Skripals without metadata was taken in The Mill at The Maltings, Salisbury. One reason metadata may have been removed is to prevent anyone from knowing the time of the photograph. What can be understood by “several hours” or “a few hours” before they were found on a bench is anyone’s guess. Is it two hours, twenty four hours or what?

    The giveaway is the half-pint glass in Sergei Skripal’s hand. It has a distinctive vertical red logo with white letters and is a Peroni Nastro Azzurro half-pint glass like these.

    http://www.monarchycatering.com/peronihalfpintbeerglasses6.html

    The Mill is one of the Greene King Local Pub chain and provides some speciality bottled beers. It describes this lager as “PERONI NASTRO AZURRO (5.1% ABV) 330ml (5.1% ABV), Crisp and refreshing lager with an unmistakable character and a touch of Italian style.”

    It does not help with the identity of the photographer. His camera does not look like a press photographer’s apparatus, more the kind of thing James Bond might carry.

  • Stephen

    So now we learn that the OPCW have said that the Russian members are to be excluded from sample collection, sample testing and decision making at the behest of the UK government. What is the point of it being called impartial if our government can dictate all the terms on how an international organisation does it’s investigation. This is looking like it will be the same faked report as the one for the Khan Sheikhun after the samples were collected by terrorists and given to the French (guess that’s why they have been involved here) before be given to a handpicked OPCW team which also excluded Russian members of the OPCW. Do they think all the EU nations will believe the same load of crap twice.

    https://www.rt.com/news/422998-moscow-skripal-opcw-probe/

  • rototo

    Valentina Lisitsa summed up in english the main points of Skripal’s cousin interview to russian media
    https://twitter.com/ValLisitsa/status/980719919967940609

    I especially loved points 6/7 ^^
    6. Asked about the possible motives for poisoning, she denies any political causes but instead drops something of a bombshell :
    Julia has just inherited in February her deceased brother’s secret bank account, worth $200000, huge money for an average Russian.
    7. She says the money, held in a secret bank account in Russia, came from the divorce settlement. Sergey #Skripal has just given his daughter the-power-of-attorney to access the account.

    full translation should land there
    https://twitter.com/O_Rich_/with_replies

    • Pyotr Grozny

      This story is in all the British tabloids. Good thing if it makes readers question the British government line but I don’t see how it provides a motive for attempted murder.

  • Billy Bostickson

    @Rototo Yes, that was posted here 3 days ago, it was published in mk.ru:

    http://www.mk.ru/incident/2018/04/01/taynaya-versiya-otravleniya-skripaley-sestra-yulii-rasskazala-o-zaveshhanii.html

    “Who is this mysterious stranger?” – we asked Victoria at the exit from the cynological center.

    – I do not know. Maybe Julia’s boyfriend showed up and did it on purpose so that I would not take Noir. In general, I consider him very strange. We once, in 2013, called in to Yulia. She then lived with him in his father’s apartment on the Autumn Boulevard. So he did not come to us, did not say hello. This young man is like a phantom. After everything happened, he did not even say “meow”.

    – You have already stated that he or his family may know something about poisoning. Do you still hold this opinion?

    – Well, if you do not take politics into account, then the household version comes to the fore. In 2016 Sasha came to Yaroslavl (the deceased son of Skripal).) and Julia. The son of Sergei Viktorovich showed pictures of Anna, said that he loved her. Julia also said that she was going to the wedding, but did not particularly talk about her chosen one. According to her, his mother did not take the daughter of a spy. He also knew her schedule when and where she would go with her father, that on March 1 they would go to the cemetery, then to the pub. The British media wrote that in the institution eyewitnesses saw how Julia handed him a box. This gift could also be from him? There is another fact about which no one knows. In late February, Julia received a general power of attorney from Sergei Viktorovich, so she had the opportunity to dispose of the secret account of her deceased brother Alexander, inherited by his father.

  • Billy Bostickson

    @Rototo

    The odd thing is that nearly 20 days later we still don’t know the boyfriend’s name with 100% certainty, nor the boyfriend’s parents:

    Here are the clues (published in mk.ru by Lev Speransky and Ekaterina Sveshnikova (http://www.mk.ru/politics/2018/03/25/otravlenie-sergeya-skripalya-my-nashli-strannogo-boyfrenda-yulii.html):

    The article states that they use a pseudonym for the boyfriend, “Stanislav”, although they know his name.

    Who is Stas?

    He is an economist by training, graduate of the State University of Management.

    In 2014 he defended his thesis at the Moscow State University at the Department of Economic Sociology and Marketing of the Faculty of Sociology.

    Later he published a number of articles on social investment.

    However, Stanislav writes not only scientific works, but also poems ..

    On the Internet there is a whole collection of his works. Verses here for every taste – there are philosophical, and love lyrics, and even religious.

    Stanislav’s mother before the country was marked by the government’s honorary diploma in 2008.

    she was in charge of the enterprise of the Federal Agency for State Reserves for the Central Federal District.

    since 2014, she heads an NGO with an authorized capital of 5 million rubles.

    area of ​​activity is development in the field of corporate security systems, integrated technical control, as well as scientific research in the core field.

    In the same structure, Stanislav himself works.

    We do not pretend to assert, but it is very likely that the enterprise is closely connected with the power structures.

    mother did not really welcome the son’s relationship with Julia.

    friends called Stas. He prefers not to discuss the situation and limited communication – his phone does not answer calls from unfamiliar numbers, he also ignores the messages from the journalists of “MK”.

    We visited the family of Stanislav in Podolsk near Moscow,

    Stanislav’s mother, as she told about herself, works as a chief accountant.

    Every morning at exactly 7.00 near the entrance it is waiting for a jeep with a personal driver.

    father had surgery on the heart, he sits at home. Now, probably, they are at the dacha.

    – What can you say about Stanislav?

    “A fine young man!” Helped us to repair the computer.

    The last time he was seen on March 20 in a black “Land Rover” on a paid parking near the house.

    Come on, resident Russian experts, see who you can find!

  • Harry Law

    The first thing a conscious person involved in an incident such as this would say in a hospital to a Doctor/Nurse or Barrister friend is, does my family know I am here, if not could you tell them I would like to see them, that’s elementary first principles for a conscious or unconscious patient. Why did the litigation “Friend” appointed by the Official Solicitor to represent the best interests of his client fail these first Principles? Note… A Barrister must promote and protect fearlessly and by all proper and lawful means the lay client’s best interests and do so without regard to his own interests or to any consequences to himself or to any other person (including any colleague, professional client or other intermediary or another barrister,
    Mr Vikram Sachdeva QC for the Official Solicitor representing the Skripals as a litigating friend, said that in this case at present it did not appear ‘practical or appropriate’ to seek the views of others who might be interested in the welfare of Mr Skripal [his mother perhaps] or Ms Skripal [perhaps a Fiance]
    Then at 17 hIgh Court iv) FF: Home Office
    Neither Mr Skripal nor Ms Skripal appear to have relatives in the UK although
    they appear to have some relatives in Russia. The SSHD have not sought to make contact with them.
    High Court . 27 The hospital has not been approached by anyone known to the patients to enquire of their welfare. The hospital know little about either patient or what they might have wished neither practicable nor appropriate in the special context of this case to consult with any relatives of Mr Skripal or Ms Skripal who might fall into the category identified in s.4(7)(b) of the Act
    What kind of a friend to the Skripals was Vikram Sachdeva QC who knowing about the evidence from the Home Dept and the Hospital does not attempt to contact the Skripals family or as section 4 [7] [b] of the Mental Capacity Act “Anyone engaged in caring for the person OR INTERESTED IN HIS WELFARE”. Obviously the Russian Embassy would be. From a purely moral point of view the failure of Mr Sachdeva QC to represent the Skripals best interests by failing to find relatives or to do his duty by informing the Russian Embassy as per 2005 MCA 4[7][b]. In my opinion Mr Sachdeve QC has failed in his duty both morally and legally to represent the best interests of Mr and Ms Skripal and should be reported to the Bar Council.
    Just who is this “Litigation friend” Vikram Sachdeva QC . Just who is he supposed to be representing?
    “Skripal and his daughter were represented in court last week by a London lawyer named Vikram Sachdeva QC. He refuses to answer questions about his role or his clients. His appointment by the British authorities does not establish his independence; according to last week’s court record, he “supported much that Mr [James] Eadie [lawyer representing the British Government] submitted.” Sachdeva’s case record shows he has been involved in cases of unconscious people in the past, but Sachdeva appears to take the side of the authorities. “A safe pair of hands [for the government]”, a source familiar with Sachdeva’s record says”. Does Yulia know [via her “litigation friend”] about her rights to Consular access and access to friends and family? It appears that she may not know, I doubt the UK Authorities will inform her either. In that case she may as well be a prisoner.
    Here are the two articles of the Bi-lateral treaty between the UK and the USSR [now Russia the legal successor state] 30
    A Consular officer shall be entitled, within the Consular district.
    [a] to protect the rights and to promote the interests of the sending state and of its nationals; the term “national” shall, for the purposes of this part, mean any person whom the sending state recognises as its national, including, where the context so permits any judicial entity;
    36
    [1][a] A consular officer shall be entitled within the consular district to communicate with, interview and advise a national of the sending state and may render him every assistance including, where necessary. arranging for aid and advice in legal matters.
    [b] No restriction shall be placed by the receiving state upon the access of a national of the sending state to the consulate or upon communications by him with the consulate.
    This plain, yet Sachdeva QC did not bring it up, WHY?
    Finally now that Yulia is getting better and can communicate. Serious concerns relating to the Hospital Trusts ‘duty of care’ arise
    Yulia Skripal’s condition cannot but be affected by her lack of access to family, friends and consular access. As Mr Justice Williams said at the High court hearing last week, “decision makers must look at their (i.e patients) welfare in the widest sense, not just medical, but social and psychological”
    May I also point out the visitor’s charter of one NHS trust “We recognise that visiting a relative or friend in hospital plays a vital part in helping their recovery and we would encourage any visitor to socialise with our patients. To help and to benefit our patients. We will keep family members and next of kin informed of any information the patient wishes them to know.”
    The UK Government have breached their International obligations and the Hospital Trust are breaching their own Charter. Both could prove very expensive.

    • John Goss

      Good points Harry well made. Because of the secretive nature of this obvious false-flag I have a wider concern. So little is known about what has happened, no interviews of medical staff on the case, lots of different stories about the ‘source’ of the alleged poison. The latest is that it came from the handle on the front door of the Skripals’ home yet it can’t be three weeks since we learnt from Sky and the BBC that a table was so badly contaminated it had to be destroyed. Nobody points out that that is a destruction of evidence in an alleged attempted murder investigation. They are making it up as they go along.

      What really concerns me is if that if Mr and Ms Skripal have been poisoned and she is awake and communicating and her father is still in a coma that she could be coerced into presenting a scripted scenario to any visiting family member (or consul if international law is upheld and access granted) under threat that her father might not otherwise survive.

      Another thing occurs to me, if her father is in a coma, whether that coma has been induced by the medics on the advice of our ‘spooks’. My guess is that most of the non-medical visits she will be getting if she has recently been ‘woken’ up, by whatever means, will be from HM visitors, which must be very daunting and traumatic. The trouble is we know nothing. She and her father could be complicit in the UK
      government’s attempt to scupper the World Cup and been watching the whole ridiculous saga on TV. Yulia, or someone, accessed her VK account three days after she was allegedly poisoned. One thing is sure – no nerve agent was used. If that had been the case the whole of Salisbury would have gone into lock-down.

    • John Goss

      The other thing is the comment at the top and on view (pro-Israel) has much fewer likes than the one at the bottom which reads.

      “manoftheworld 1d ago

      Israel has chosen a permanent military and security solution to what is essentially an issue of rights – human, democratic and sovereign. It is worse than a disgrace. It is a heinous crime. And yet to read the IDF and Israeli politicians comments afterwards – especially the despicable Avigdor Lieberman – is to understand that there is no real cost for Israel to behave in this way, no self-awareness or humanitarianism, no shame. This is what has to change – and it’s up to us to change it.”

      When you own the media you can do that!

    • John Goss

      Yes I saw that on RT. But that was always going to be the case unless the ‘nerve-agent’ had a traceability code on the jar. 🙂 More pertinent was the comment that if Porton Down had an antidote they must be making it and must have known what it was from the start. That really is a smoking gun.

      • Paul Barbara

        @ John Goss April 3, 2018 at 20:29
        The traceability is embedded in the compound, it is not on the ‘jar’, just as was the traceability of Semtex.

  • Victor

    Mr. Ambassador, many thanks for trying to understand this problem. My comment will be in Russian, to exclude the errors of my knowledge of English (bad) and misunderstanding of my words.
    Я русский офицер, подполковник. 25 лет назад я уволился из армии. Последнее место службы – штаб войск РХБЗ, то есть я знаю немного больше, чем другие военные. Но я не могу быть военным экспертом по боевым отравляющим веществам, так как у меня другая военная специальность.
    Вещества, разработанные по программе “Фолиант” никогда не числились в номенклатуре баз хранения боевых ОВ России. Они характеризуются мгновенным действием (от нескольких минут) и распадом в течении 7-15 суток.
    1. Нигде не показана процедура дегазации, ни работающих в зоне поражения, ни самих объектов.
    2. Зона поражения нигде не отмечена метками с указанием уровня концентрации ОВ и времени замеров, что очень важно для определения типа использованного боевого ОВ.
    3. Непосредственно возле зоны поражения находятся люди без средств защиты. Это уже мертвецы.
    4. Если Портон-Даун определил тип ОВ и вероятную страну изготовления, то почему они не запросили у России антидот? Только потому, что ОВ и антидот британского происхождения?
    5. Снимали голливудский триллер, а получилось болливудское мыло.
    6. Я бы порекомендовал продавцу боевых многоцелевых каминов, как следует порыться в мусорных баках Солсбери. Там он обязательно должен найти парашют с надписью ГРУ ГШ ВС РФ, удостоверение русского шпиона на английском языке с орфографическими ошибками и бутылку водки с русскими отпечатками пальцев. Они же, по мнению вашего правительства, должны отличаться от обычных человеческих.
    Maybe Theresa May and wanted to be an “Iron Lady”, but she’s an old honorary Pussy Riot of Great Britain. This is not an insult, it’s a diagnosis.

    • JakeMorris

      Google translate of the Russian text:

      “I’m a Russian officer, lieutenant colonel. 25 years ago I retired from the army. The last place of service is the headquarters of the RCBZ troops, that is, I know a little more than the other military. But I can not be a military expert on military poisonous substances, since I have another military specialty.
      Substances developed under the “Foliant” program have never been listed in the list of storage bases for military OMs in Russia. They are characterized by instant action (from a few minutes) and disintegration in 7-15 days.
      1. Nowhere is the degassing procedure shown, neither working in the affected zone, nor the objects themselves.
      2. The affected area is nowhere labeled with the indication of the concentration level of the OM and the time of measurements, which is very important for determining the type of combat OB used.
      3. Directly near the zone of defeat are people without means of protection. They are already dead.
      4. If Porton Down determined the type of OB and the likely country of manufacture, then why did they not ask Russia for an antidote? Just because OV and antidote of British origin?
      5. They shot a Hollywood thriller, and it turned out to be a Bollywood soap.
      6. I would recommend to the seller of multi-purpose fireplaces how to dig in salvage bin Salisbury. There he must find a parachute with the inscription of the GRU GSh RF Armed Forces, a Russian spy certificate in English with spelling mistakes and a bottle of vodka with Russian fingerprints. They, in your government’s opinion, should be different from ordinary human beings.”

      Acronyms like RCBZ, OM, OB don’t readily translate. Presumably chemical warfare related. My recommendation to Victor would be to not use acronyms but rather print out the entire terms, which can then be properly translated.

      Regarding the substance: some interesting points, further highlighting that proper decontamination procedure wasn’t followed in Salisbury, which makes it “highly unlikely” that UK authorities actually believed there was a deadly nerve agent set loose among the populace.

      Another valid question is why UK did not ask Russia for an antidote. It wouldn’t have been necessary if Porton Down had it on hand, but Gary the PD Head denied this yesterday. So either UK had an antidote at some other facility (even more secret than PD? Undeclared to OPCW?), or Skripals were not poisoned by Novichok, because otherwise their survival, and Yulia’s recovery, is quite inexplicable.

      Regarding the style: apparently dry and coarse humour is common to any military. Not unappreciated at these trying times.

      • JakeMorris

        Another thing I missed initially: it seems Victor is saying that Novichok type substances were never actually stockpiled because they couldn not be maintained for longer than 7-15 days? This blows a hole in another of May’s accusations – that Russia had been “stockpiling” Novichoks for assassination purposes.

        • Victor

          JakeMorris,
          Thank you, I’m sorry/
          РХБЗ – troops of radiation chemical and bacteriological protection.
          ОВ – chemical agents.

          7-15 days after spraying. Storage can be very long, the binary components are separated in a bomb, but gradually lose their properties. Shelf life is unknown, since this chemical agent was not used in the army.

          For the application of combat chemical agents, a minimum of 2 cars and 5-6 agents are required. Control, attack, evacuation. James Bond would ask for help from M., Sherlock Holmes and Lestrade. Dr. Watson refuses, he is a gentleman.

        • Victor

          I met with British, American, German and French officers. We respect and understand each other. Drinking whiskey in this company is better than looking at each other in sight. We are different, but we want one thing: to put politicians in trenches and give them more weapons.

  • Tony M

    Pollen Filter is a bit of a misnomer, a marketing wheeze. Cars never had such things until catalytic converters became almost ubiquitous, the reason being that as they age, within months if not weeks from new, the constituent metals of your and other car’s cats, including particles of platinum, palladium, rhodium and others, are being blown out the exhaust at high velocity, particularly heavily on motorway and fast A-road usage, and are turning up in people’s lungs and cannot be eliminated from the body, constituting a hazard to life debatably as harmful as the emissions the cats were introduced to reduce. Without pollen-filters this adds an extra hazard to the practice of tail-gating.

  • Tony M

    The above should have been a reply to an earlier comment, don’t know why it has ended up up at the end of the thread.

  • Adam Millard

    Dear Sir,
    I have been watching this Anti Russian propaganda narrative play out in the media over the past few weeks. This demonstrates beyond any reasonable doubt that the British government are deliberately trying to provoke Russia into an escalation of hostilities which could result in a World war. This is reckless beyond measure and I would hope those responsible are made fully accountable and expect nothing less than their immediate resignations. Also criminal proceedings to take place which should result in their imprisonment, the charges being high treason against the British people.

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