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michael norton
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Solar panels have been on houses for a long time, maybe thirty five years?
However, it is the new battery tech, that brings this system to fruition.Clark
Michael, I find it sad to see you periodically swayed by political propaganda. “Net Zero by Whenever” is merely political posturing, as are the scare stories opposing it. Deindustrialisation is nothing new, it started forty years ago under Thatcher, and has persisted under governments of all complexions ever since. Study practicalities first (directly from the numbers, and from people and organisations that actually do stuff), and only read political commentary afterwards; that way, you’ll be well placed to spot the politicised distortions, deceptions, distractions and misdirections.
“If voting could change anything it’d be made illegal”. It’s not quite that bad, at least we can kick out one lot and get in another, but they lie more than not, and then we’re stuck with the winning bunch for five years. That’s what’s happened with this lot. The Conservatives did a lot of very unconservative things, like personal profiteering in the pandemic, encouraging drunken fascists to the Cenotaph where they pelted the police with bottles, crashing the economy under Truss, tripling immigration, and letting the water companies fill our rivers with effluent. So people voted for “the other side” and soon discovered they’d been deceived, tricked into genocide and war, hence this government’s massive unpopularity.
Democracy itself needs an overhaul; everything else is just tinkering around the edges. Just for a start, we need a way to kick out a government quickly when it turns out they lied to get elected.
michael norton
The first houses in the UK to be fitted with solar panels were part of the “Solar Park” project in Woking, Surrey, in 1986. These were social housing units, demonstrating the potential of solar energy for both electricity and hot water.
michael norton
Clark
Quote “Democracy itself needs an overhaul; everything else is just tinkering around the edges. Just for a start, we need a way to kick out a government quickly when it turns out they lied to get elected.”Clark, one hundred percent agree.
I am not a complete dinosaur, although on Tuesday when I was with my conservation volunteering group, we were making sweet chestnut post and rail fences, one of the volunteers ( I think he has a PhD in botany), had a very colourful hat. I called out is that your gay hat Colin?
He came over and put his hand on my shoulder, saying oh, dear, I don’t think we will ever get you politically correct Michael, at least not until you are dead.
It seems most of our volunteers are incredibly highly educated, I class myself as the least educated, anyway the higher educated ones, mostly voted Labour.
Maybe the political correctness comes from working in large organisations?
I have spent most of my life being self employed.
Most of them are fully signed up to believing hook line and sinker that there is likely to be a climate crisis.
Yet they happily jet off on holiday to the Caribbean.
Many cycle to the volunteering, some even go on cycling holidays.
I think I have just demonstrated that cognitive dissonance is rife.michael norton
Most people do not want a lower standard of living.
I expect that is true anywhere in the worldmichael norton
Here is a question for Clark and ET.
What percentage of the population of the world do you consider live in fear of Global Warming.
My guess would be something like a lot less than one percent.
michael norton
Spain
Pedro Sánchez, who promised to clean up Spanish politics, is now caught up in multiple corruption scandals!
A judge has been investigating the prime minister’s wife, Begoña Gómez, for possible business irregularities – and his musician brother, David, is due to go on trial for alleged influence peddling.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj3r1px50vvoI doubt the Spanish government are less corrupt of useless than the British government.
Starmer seems to has vanished?michael norton
Sorry, I really garbled that.
I doubt the Spanish Government are any more corrupt or useless than the Starmer Government.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250617-spain-says-overvoltage-caused-huge-april-blackout
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Shaun Quegan
https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/mps/people/all-academic-staff/shaun-queganI know we have briefly mentioned this project before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfqvsVgtThQVery interesting project.
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This video is about a topic we have touched on before.
700 mm wavelength radar.
British scientist Shaun Quegan, is interested in radar.
Radar was invented in Britain, helping us to shorten the Second World War against Germany.
They explain that NOAA have been using sats for forty years and have determined that the green leaf coverage of the World has greatly expanded, during that time, estimates are that 2/3 of the extra greening come from the extra Carbon dioxide that is now in the atmosphere, mostly released by human activity.
https://www.noaa.gov/NOOA was concerning themselves with green leaf coverage.
Now thought to be extra greening equivalent to
two continental United States of America.
So, a huge amount.
This new sat, is aimed at discerning the mass of Carbon held in the surface woody parts of the forests.
They are interested in the balance of Carbon. So, just because there now is more green leaf, how much extra Carbon is locked up in the woody parts of the forests.
Is more being Carbon being released back into the air by human activity, like clear felling, road building.
This new radar will look through the trees and measure the wood. That is why they have gone for such a long wave length. They needed to wait until the American military gave them the go ahead because this is/was the frequency they use to check on nuclear weapons emplacement.
This new sat must not look at nuclear weapons sites.Now I have explained what the video, nobody needs to watch it.
michaelmichael norton
In this video, they claimed that probably only 1% of the Carbon held in a tree is in the green parts, most is held in the woody parts.
What they did not say in this video, is that a lot of the Carbon, drawn down by the forests is stored in the top soil.
What the video also claimed, was that the bulk of the tree is the woody parts, only about 50% of that is Carbon.
They did not specify ( perhaps I glossed over that bit) what the other 50% is, mostly water, I guess.
This is initially a five year project.
So, several passes on the same land, maybe twice in the five year period, then they can determine if the forested areas are gaining Carbon or losing Carbon.ET
Michael, whilst such projects are interesting and may give us useful data in time we already know that however the as yet unknown intricacies of these systems behave it’s still not preventing atmospheric CO2 levels from rising. We can easily measure this. Thanks to carbon 13 isotope dating (and other things) we can confidently say the extra CO2 in the atmosphere is from burning fossil fuels. Carbon 14 isotope dating was/is messed up thanks to nuclear bomb testing in the past.
We also know and can easily demonstrate the greenhouse gas effect of CO2.
We can calculate relatively easily how much CO2 is released by burning fossil fuels.I am not living moment by moment in fear of global warming, in that I don’t think about mostly until I come here 😏 but unless we curtail atmospheric CO2 (and other Greenhouse gases) we are going to have a hotter planet.
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