- This topic is empty.
-
Posts
-
Shibboleth, I bet it costs a lot more to keep a horse than a car what with feed, paddock fees, insurance, vets etc. Horses ain’t cheap.
I wonder if MN will actually respond to anything here that’s been written in direct replies to his own points?
By ‘reply’, I mean to actually respond with his own thoughts, and something of substance. Not responding with new and vaguely connected Daily Mail/ Express talking points.
There is this niggling think, called Democracy.
Every few years you get to vote, however these bleeders do not tell you in advance they are going to double car tax for Internal combustion cars. They do not tell you that they are going to make, water, natural gas and electricity go sky high.
They do not tell you that they will rob the pensioners of their heating allowances.
They do not tell you, they will try and start world war three.
They do not tell you that they will crash the economy, on purpose.
These people, now think they are our masters.
They will tell us what to think and how to act or they will fast track us to prison.
This truly is Dystopia.
Why not have a referendum and ask the voters if they want to be made poor and have all choice removed from them, so they become slaves of the Labour Masters?
There is much talk, that the new Chancellor is about to resign because she has crashed the economy of the U.K.Another right wing sore loser post.
I don’t believe people voted to give £200m worth of PPE contracts to the company owned by the husband of a Tory, (but who coincidentally supported Labour when they were in power), only to discover that many of the £200m worth of products were unusable because they were substandard; but that is what we got.
Do you really believe the Labour administration are starting WW3, or have NATO been trying to do that for the last 20 years?
I’m afraid that as a minor party (121 MPs) are in no position to try and pretend they are on equal terms with an elected government (411 MPs), however much their billionaire friends owning most of the UK the MSM will bleat to the world about everything being unfair.
Remember the Tory mantra is – “Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes fact”
And as for trashing the economy, just remember Liz Truss.
MN:“There is this niggling think, called Democracy.
Every few years you get to vote, however these bleeders do not tell you in advance they are going to double car tax for Internal combustion cars [continues…]”Was this straight out of a non-dom billionaire owned Express leader – set in an ‘everyman’ fashion to dupe the malinformed and thoroughly ignorant?
If not, MN ought to apply for the position because he’s perfectly qualified for the job – as a True Believer.
“I bet it costs a lot more to keep a horse than a car what with feed, paddock fees, insurance, vets etc. Horses ain’t cheap.”
Very possibly these days, but Michael will likely go for a cheaper, more appropriate model. An ass or donkey would suit…
As I have said to Clark, I have a very small 21 year old Diesel Ford, it does me, I don’t go far from my home town.
Quote BBC
“Energy bills to rise for second time this winter”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz6jvl9w7p6o
Remove the pensioner heating allowance and watch the snow fall, put up cost of electricity, natural gas and water, watch the pensioners die like insects. All this while Sir Keir swans about in Azerbaijan or Brazil, sunning himself with his globalist chums.glenn, the true Believers are those dupes who voted Labour, even though Labour were very short on priorities, before the election, I expect some may be wishing they had stayed indoors.
Looks like the steel industry is buggered in Britain, now the retailers are going to the wall.
Quote BBC
“Shop sales in surprise fall as Budget fears hit spending”
There are going to be mass lay offs in Britain, from multiple sectors, people out of work, don’t pay much in income tax, they also do not buy any big ticket items, this is now a slippery slope.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gmy9xldgnoMN: You must actually think that this country was in a good state, without any serious problems, right up until Labour took over. History started then, and all our current problems are due to policies since. Correct?
glenn, I don’t think that the country has been doing well for an awfully long time, I remember the “Three Day Week”
I remember the dustbin strikes and the copses uncollected, the year long miners strike. Pretty well my whole working life, things have not been good in the U.K.
People manage to get good pay rises, then the firm moves abroad or just closes.
I have not got a clue what any answers could be.
I don’t think the present, new, government has any clues.
Maybe, there just are not any clues and we are at getting towards the end of the road.Nationalisation plans are currently underway following the proposed introduction of Great British Energy subsequent to the 2024 King’s Speech, which also oversaw increased dedication towards net-zero.
Nationalisation, first I have heard of that twaddle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_in_Great_Britain
We really are going down the Stalin rabbit hole in Britain.Ah, you think privatising utilities has been a great success then, Michael? And you fear undoing such wondrous progress is going to set us back. Fascinating.
Morris City, Illinois
October 13, 2021 Update
Battery fire – dry Portland cement (dust) used to smother the batteries
https://response.epa.gov/site/site_profile.aspx?site_id=15259
Disused U.S.A. government paper warehouse, then used to store batteries, without the knowledge of the local fire brigade, no working facilities on site.400,000 pounds of batteries, with 124,000 pounds being lithium-ion batteries, on site
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CAILZM18_oSo the big question is, what to do with end of life Lithium ion batteries.
Dump in holes in the ground, dump in disused warehouses next to housing estates?Industrial collapse in Europe and the U.K.
Germany’s largest steelmaker is proposing to cut workers.
Thyssenkrupp announces plans to cut total of 11,000 jobs in troubled steel unit.
https://www.euronews.com/business/2024/11/25/thyssenkrupp-announces-plans-to-cut-total-of-11000-jobs-in-troubled-steel-unit
Thyssenkrupp last week downgraded the value of its steel business by a further €1bn,
blaming weak earnings expectations and the costly process of “going green”.I bet China and India are still going to be using coal to make steel.
I expect Europe will buy far more steel from Asia.
But what cost to Europe, this smashing of industry?“So the big question is, what to do with end of life Lithium ion batteries.
Dump in holes in the ground, dump in disused warehouses next to housing estates?”Is that what they do with nuclear waste?
If you really want to be taken seriously, why not ditch the childish nightmare scenario posts?
Vauxhall owner to close Luton factory
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8n3n62wq4o
Quote BBC
“The owner of Vauxhall has announced plans to close its van-making factory in Luton, putting about 1,100 jobs at risk.Stellantis, which also owns brands including Citroen, Peugeot and Fiat, said it would combine its electric van production at its other UK plant in Ellesmere Port.
Rules imposed to speed up the transition to electric vehicles (EV) in the UK partly drove the decision, the company said.
It comes amid growing concerns among car manufacturers over EV sales targets, with many, including Stellantis, calling for the government to do more to boost consumer demand.”
I think the collapse of U.K. and European industry is speeding up.
Fat Jon, thanks for your input.
Quote
“So the big question is, what to do with end of life Lithium ion batteries.
Dump in holes in the ground, dump in disused warehouses next to housing estates?”Essentially, so far, there is no answer, of what to do with the “Green” E waste.
Only one country in the world has a working system of what to do with Nuclear Waste, that country is Finland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_nuclear_accident
Most nuclear fuel that has been used, is kept in wet tanks on site, they have no notion of what to do with it.
Much of the problem at Fukushima was the spent nuclear fuel being dispersed by the tsunami.
Wind Turbine blades are either piled in deserts or landfilled.
In a hundred years time, there will be monstrous numbers of wind turbine blades dumped.
Yes, they can be cut up but as the basic ingredient is glass – made from sand, there is no commercial sense in attempting to recycle the blades.
People are keeping batteries in warehouses, because it is much cheaper than recycling them.
Solar panels are run over by steam rollers, only the aluminium alloy frames are saved for recycling, the rest is dumped.
It will not do any of us any good at pretending the Green Revolution is the only answer.
None of these modern facilities will last long, they will all have to be replaced, as long as humans require civilisation. Even electricity pylons will not last much more than one hundred years.
The present ones are Zinc plated, that stops most of the corrosion, however it also makes them very difficult and dangerous to humans, to recycle.If we are to have an all electric future, we need to figure out how to make these facilities last much longer.
We also need them to be almost completely recyclable.
Our electricity in the U.K. is probably more expensive than any comparable country.
Should we make it, even more expensive?
Why Jon do you think firms are getting out?
Too expensive energy must be one of their main concerns.Would dumping turbine blades in the sea be ecologically harmful?
Electric car targets could be eased as demand flags
It seems the wheels may be coming off the enforcing of battery car sales in the U.K.
Quote BBC
“Nissan, which builds EVs at its plant in Sunderland, has said the rules are “undermining the business case for manufacturing cars in the U.K., and the viability of thousands of jobs and billions of pounds in investment”.Last week, its rival Ford announced it will cut 800 jobs in the U.K. over the next three years. It said this was partly because of weaker demand for EVs.
So that’s steel plants closing, refinery in Scotland closing, the winding down of the Coal industry and now the virtual collapse of the new car manufacturing in the U.K. and Europe but allowing Chinese cars in?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98dzyy850jo
It is the collapse in jobs that is bring Netr Zero into sharp focus for the new Labour government.Ginger Ninja,
perhaps they would make bases for coral reefs, so maybe a possible solution, thanks for you suggestion.Don’t think the fish would like that suggestion, Michael. You could always dump them into an active volcano – the lava is so hot it would vaporise the blades and what’s left absorbed into billions of tonnes of new igneous rock. The really dangerous stuff – nuclear waste, forever chemicals, biohazards, EV batteries and Ed Milliband – you could easily dump on the far side of the moon. Lots of empty space and big craters – and well outta sight.
Here’s another suggestion. Instead of burying or cremating dead bodies, freeze dry them then immerse in liquid nitrogen, riddle and freeze dry again. What left is a large carry bag of dried human pellets. Pop them into cardboard vase with a sapling on top and plant them in a place of your choice. We could have huge forests in just a few years…
Have you been foraging wild mushrooms too?
[ Mod: Michael, the topic of this discussion thread is “Mineral Future”; however, you posted links to news reports about cold weather, with an insinuation that it challenges the notion of global warming. You don’t mention minerals.
Maybe you should try the Climate Change Denialist thread instead? ]
—
Deep Water Corals/Cold Water Corals
It would seem that Deep Water Corals (no photosymbionts) grow very slowly, perhaps gaining only one mm growth per year, they would be particularly impacted by sea mining, for minerals to use in E.V, to help save the planet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zisgT-HswUU
The deep, cold seas play an important role in storing Carbon.
Perhaps we should try to understand the deep sea ecosystems, before we destroy them?
These organisms, also contain Bacteria/Archaea and Viruses within their bodies,
no doubt, they will be of interest to chemistry and medicine?If we could calm down about global warming and an all electric future, before we destroy the living creatures of the deep sea, perhaps we should study them, instead of eliminating them, just to gain minerals?
“Our planet is covered predominately by water and marine biodiversity is unrivalled. Currently, modern technologies make it possible to attain unexplored sea depths, making marine biota more and more available to researchers. Over the years, marine resources have gained increasing attention from biomedical research. Up to now, around 28,000 new compounds of marine origin have been discovered. These natural marine compounds could play a key role in cancer research, as they are usually less toxic than conventional chemotherapy agents, effective, inexpensive, and, in most cases, easily available. They may be used to inhibit cancer development, progression, and metastasis. Several marine-derived metabolites can inhibit tumour cells’ growth both in vitro and in vivo, as well as in cancer clinical trials. The exploitation of marine resources could open the doors to a new generation of anticancer drugs, with a positive impact on millions of lives.”
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9698933/
would that be a better future than every one driving a battery car?
