My Scotland

by craig on August 31, 2014 11:19 am in Uncategorized

Yesterday the licensing man from Dundee Council went down the taxi ranks ordering saltires and yes stickers removed from the taxis. (would he have ordered No stickers removed as well? We can never be sure as there weren’t any.)

Having missed the train to my Cupar meeting last night, I got in a taxi (it’s not far) and the taxi driver was giving his side of the story. He said he told the council man that “There is an argument that he was within his rights to tell me to remove the sticker, but when he told me to take off my lapel badge, I told him that he was infringing my absolute right to freedom of speech under article ten of the European Convention.”

This campaign has been the most uplifting experience imaginable. It will not be possible to put the people back in the box of media-induced apathy after this.

One of the most unexpectedly invigorating aspects of the campaign is that in packed town hall meetings, I have been sharing the platform with people who are not good public speakers. If that sounds paradoxical, it is because often they have never done any public speaking before. Yesterday in Cupar there was an excellent lady who works in the NHS who had a deep knowledge of its workings and of the threats from privatization of its services, including the mechanisms by which these privatisations were being advanced. She believed that after a No vote it would not be possible for the Scottish NHS to continue to be insulated from some of these trends, and she explained why she felt that.

There was no polish to her quiet delivery, but her heartfelt sincerity and the depth of her knowledge held the audience in intent silence. She had never spoken in public before. It was truly inspiring.

The substance of the campaign is people in local communities actually talking to each other about what is important to their communities and they way their society is organized. I have never seen anything to compare this to. No wonder the politicians have no idea how to counter it. The happy lack of hierarchical power structures in the campaign on the ground seems to relate to the fact that so many women are coming forward as speakers – for the third time, I was the only male on the panel yesterday.

Better Together have women too of course. Just in case anyone has been living under a rock and hasn’t seen it, here is the Saatchi and Saatchi produced Better Together broadcast that set the campaign on fire. The many spoofs are great, but I think nothing quite equals the sheer comic genius of the original.

sirte

I have added this picture as pro-government commenters have started to come on the site with their ridiculous propaganda claims that NATO killed very few people in its 398 bombing raids on Sirte. What you see is just one street of scores in similar condition. You can believe your eyes or the propaganda.

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  1. Fascist operatives in Dundee then.

    Could not believe that there are only 19 councillors for a city with a population of 148,000.
    My poxy council has 50 for a population of <70,000.

    ~~~~

    Your St Andrew's speech has got onto the Macedonian International News Agency website. The message is spreading far and wide. Good on you.

    http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/26013/53/

  2. Craig is not driven by national pride (he’s English, born and bred where he continues to live). He is driven completely by his hatred of the British state after he was sacked from his job. While his stance at the time was commendable, unfortunately his vendetta against the ‘establishment’ clouds his judgment on pretty much everything he writes about. For example, a few days ago he was claiming (to an unquestioning Scottish audience) that the British killed 15,000 civilians in Sirte, which is total nonsense.

  3. Al Milliner. can you prove Craig was lying about the 15000 killed in libya

  4. Al Milliner

    I have added a photo for you.

  5. “He is driven completely by his hatred of the British state after he was sacked from his job”

    Untrue. A while back Craig revealed that at some point during his tenure as an ambassador he was offered an honour, which he turned down because of his commitment to Scottish independence.

    I think Craig’s main problem is hypocrisy. He is more than happy to re-assert his Englishness when convenient. When he was standing for Norwich North he produced a dvd that informed us that he was a Norfolk man through and through. When he lost he became Scottish again.

  6. ” can you prove Craig was lying about the 15000 killed in libya? ”

    More to the point can Craig prove it’s true. Pictures of a lot of trashed buildings prove nothing.

  7. “I have added this picture as pro-government commenters have started to come on the site with their ridiculous propaganda claims that NATO killed very few people in its 398 bombing raids on Sirte”

    Craig, I claimed your figure of 15,000 was nonsense.

    Gadaffi loyalists claimed 2,000 civilians dead, including those killed by the rebels.

    Why are you making things up and then falsely representing my position?

  8. I really find this fascination with my ethnicity peculiar. My father was from Edinburgh, my mother from Norfolk, where my father was posted in the RAF. I have lived in each country and abroad. I want Scotland to be independent for political reasons which I have outlined at great length. Nobody has suggested Scots should be locked in on independence.

    I have lived in Norfolk and in Scotland and have family in both places. That I should stress genuine local links in each place is not in the least peculiar or “hypocritical”.

  9. MJ 12:11pm

    Was his losing that election about the same time he decided the English are racist knuckle-draggers (presumably because they didn’t vote for him)?

  10. Al Milliner

    Actually I was referring to the claim on another thread that 150 had died. You are saying 2,000. My information from Libyan sources is that the toll was many many more, and the photographic evidence plus the sheer quantity of strikes by NATO and very heavy munitions used would support my view.

    As with the bombing of Iraq and of Serbia, we are consistently fed lies about the number of people western intervention kills. What is your motive for accepting it?

  11. Where does the 15,000 come from Craig?

  12. My wife is annoyed by the BT stupid woman advert in ways she cannot express. But she identified quickly when I quoted Dickens’ description of the idiot boy in Barnaby Rudge: ‘A face illuminated by that which is not wit.’

  13. Resident Dissident

    31 Aug, 2014 - 12:34 pm

    “I have lived in Norfolk and in Scotland and have family in both places. That I should stress genuine local links in each place is not in the least peculiar or “hypocritical”.”

    Which is of course true for many people throughout the UK given that we have been in Union since 1707 – so all the more reason not to create artificial barriers between people. Anyway the claims of Northumbria to Edinburgh and what are now the lowlands of Scotland predate those of the Picts – so Yorkshiremen and Geordies rise up and stop the sons of Norfolk from stealing your rightful inheritance!

  14. Craig: anyone born on these isles doesn’t have to look far back into their ancestry to find English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish roots. That’s the nature of being British. To choose your nationality depending on which constituency you’re standing for is just a pathetic politician’s trick.

  15. MJ

    You have a peculiar view of exclusivity. I have dual nationality. In Norfolk I several times made the point that like Ian Gibson I was a supporter of Scottish independence. If you look at the video of that St Andrews apeech, I am standing next to a large banner that says “English Scots for Yes”. I have never been disingenuous about my mixed background. I can’t understand why it is such an issue for you unionists.

  16. The Duchy of Saville's last appeal

    31 Aug, 2014 - 12:46 pm

    Talk about Craig, talk about Lybya, talk about anything, anything at all but the Scottish people’s public happiness at the chance to get free of this criminal, degenerate British state.

  17. “media-induced apathy”

    Interesting concept – how does it work?

  18. @mj

    “Craig: anyone born on these isles doesn’t have to look far back into their ancestry to find English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish roots. That’s the nature of being British.”

    Isn’t it just the nature of being human? I was born in Scotland of Irish parents, I have Irish citizenship and an Irish passport, my wife is a Ukrainian Jew with an American passport, and we are out together on the streets campaigning for control over the place where we live. It seems quite natural to us.

    I can understand your racism simply because it is common, but I don’t know why you should think it is a useful prop for the Union.

  19. “I can’t understand why it is such an issue for you unionists”

    The question of separate nationality within the UK seems more of an issue for you separatists. Most people, with good reason, don’t care any more.

  20. The “Better Together” video was actually very interesting, as it showed precisely where the No campaign are aiming. Like most advertising it aims to stimulate an emotion, or set of emotions, and connect them with an idea. The emotions summoned up by this film were fear, cynicism, and resentment of anyone who seems more confident, articulate, and better-informed than oneself. With a final touch of mother-love to lighten the scene a bit- because too much negativity is offputting.

    These emotions are common in any society. But the fact that the No campaign are reduced to appealing to them, says a lot about them. Had I been Scottish, I’d have been ashamed to vote No after watching this video.

  21. MJ

    After weeks of pretending you supported independence, except were against it if Scotland did not have its own currency – a stance that was always transparently dishonest from your comments – it is good to see you finally coming out as a simple Britnat unionist ranting against separatists.

  22. Resident Dissident

    31 Aug, 2014 - 1:23 pm

    “The emotions summoned up by this film were fear, cynicism, and resentment of anyone who seems more confident,”

    Or you could have said doubt, realism and dislike of the arrogant – your use of language undermines your faux neutrality I’m afraid. One of the golden rules of political campaigning that Craig has failed to appreciate is that negative campaigning only strengthens existing views rather than changes them.

  23. Self-determination up your arse

    31 Aug, 2014 - 2:08 pm

    Only strengthens existing views, Splendid! Since existing views, properly elicited, are more than adequate to shitcan the failing British police state.

  24. Smoothface’s and Billy Fourteen Pints’ finest hour sickeningly referred to as an ‘intervention’ just as the massacre in Gaza is the result of a ‘conflict’.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya

    Costs[edit]

    Funds spent by Foreign Powers on War in Libya.
    Country/Funds Spent
    By

    United Kingdom $336–$1,500 million USD September 2011 (estimate)[232][233]
    United States $896 – US$1,100 million October 2011[234][235][236][237][238]
    Italy $700 million EUR October 2011[239]
    France $450 million EUR September 2011[240][241]
    Turkey US$300 million July 2011[242]
    Denmark $120 million EUR November 2011[243]
    Belgium $58 million EUR October 2011[244]
    Spain $50 million EUR September 2011[245]
    Sweden US$50 million October 2011[246]
    Canada US$26 million June 2011[247]

    On 22 March 2011, BBC News presented a breakdown of the likely costs to the UK of the mission.[248] Journalist Francis Tusa, editor of Defence Analysis, estimated that flying a Tornado GR4 would cost about £35,000 an hour (aprx. US$48,000), so the cost of patrolling one sector of Libyan airspace would be £2M –£3M ($2.75M -$4.13M USD) per day. Conventional airborne missiles would cost £800,000 each and Tomahawk cruise missiles £750,000 each. Professor Malcolm Charmers of the Royal United Services Institute similarly suggested that a single cruise missile would cost about £500,000, while a single Tornado sortie would cost about £30,000 in fuel alone. If a Tornado was downed the replacement cost would be upwards of £50m. By 22 March the US and UK had already fired more than 110 cruise missiles. UK Chancellor George Osborne had said that the MoD estimate of the operation cost was “tens rather than hundreds of millions”. On 4 April Air Chief Marshal Sir Stephen Dalton said that the RAF was planning to continue operations over Libya for at least six months.[249]

    The cost for Greece was $1 million daily.[250]

    Plus Plus

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Civil_War

    ‘The number of war wounded is currently estimated to be at least 50,000, including some 20,000 with serious injuries, but is expected to rise, Barakat said.’ Huff Post

    ~~

    PS Don’t the supporters of the war criminals love the counting of numbers killed in the wars and disputing them. One death is too many.

  25. Resident Dissident

    31 Aug, 2014 - 2:13 pm

    “Only strengthens existing views, Splendid!”

    Clearly you have not seen the opinion polls.

  26. “After weeks of pretending you supported independence, except were against it if Scotland did not have its own currency”

    My position has always been that you can’t be independent without your own currency.

    “it is good to see you finally coming out as a simple Britnat unionist ranting against separatists”

    I certainly believe in the independent nation state because that seems the best structure we have for empowering people as a whole. Part of me thinks that the island of Great Britain and its people forms an almost perfect nation state: clearly defined and not too big or too small. It already has its own currency and central bank but the country has been taken over by the bankers of the City and, more recently, the EU. I would like to see the UK as a whole throw off these shackles and become independent again.

    Failing that however a truly independent Scotland is the next best thing. If it was able to extricate itself from the banksters then I’d be in favour of the rest of us submitting to Scottish rule and renaming the whole island Scotland.

  27. Self-determination up your urethra

    31 Aug, 2014 - 2:20 pm

    Res diss, you fucking liar.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/07/30/scottish-independence-vote-is-too-close-to-call/

    You can’t even argue the subsequent trends. Your only hope is stuffing ballot boxes, to which you will doubtless resort.

  28. Yes Campaign Accused Of ‘Sinister’ Mobbery
    Labour’s Jim Murphy accuses the Yes campaign of disrupting meetings, as Alex Salmond claims there are “idiots” on both sides.

    Sunday 31 August 2014

    Video: Yes Campaign Accused Of ‘Mobbery’

    A Scotland referendum No campaigner has accused the Yes campaign of “sinister” street mobbery after his tour visits were disrupted by crowds.

    Labour frontbencher Jim Murphy described the abuse as “sinister”.

    He said his last 12 No campaign meetings had been disrupted by hundreds of “co-ordinated” individuals throwing eggs and hurling abuse.

    Mr Murphy has been staging a tour of 100 towns in 100 days with weeks to go until the referendum vote takes place.

    Scottish independence information leaflets are placed on a table
    The Scottish referendum takes place on September 18

    He told Sky News: “I don’t mind heckles, do you know what I don’t mind people throwing eggs, that’s just a dry cleaning bill that’s neither here nor there.

    “Instead of turning up and crowds of people on all sides, I would turn up and there was an organised mob of yes supporters facilitated through the Yes Scotland organisations, through websites, through Facebook and other social media.

    “This is co-ordinated, it’s sinister and there have been times, across the period, [there have been] hundreds of people involved in it.

    “These are people intending to disrupt and silence undecided voters on street corners so they cannot have their say.”

    Alex Salmond replied appropriately to the whinger.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1327707/yes-campaign-accused-of-sinister-mobbery

  29. You can almost taste the Britnat rage, let them vent now, it’s all over but for the vote.

    The video has a touch of Jean Brodie, meets Acorn Antiques, they should have got Celia Imrie, this is Miss Babs to a T, and is so hilariously fake and staged, so cringe-inducing and insincere I’m certain now that BT/U-KOK itself is being run by secret Yes supporters, if not then their ocean’s breadth detachment from reality, must make them objects of pity. With Persistent Piss-Stain laying down “golden rules of political campigning”, plucked straight from somewhere, perhaps Oligarch Central Orifice, can I suggest this video is comedy and campaigning gold, the actress deserves wider recognition. I suppose once Miss Babs has gone out to work, perhaps as a High St. Loan Shark (sorry financial advisor), her cleaner comes in to give the house a once over.

    I think this was one of the many compelling videos made in response to this load of rubbish.

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/lbxLZzzDDws

  30. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristocracy

    Rule of the best. The way of the current system essentially natural law.
    All process of democracy run through this system.

  31. “Your only hope is stuffing ballot boxes, to which you will doubtless resort”

    Much planning going into policing the ballot. After Labour’s victory in Glenrothes (the marked up register disappeared, gosh how unlucky) I’m advised that I must be mounted on my 125cc scooter and ready to follow the van carrying the ballot boxes hither and thither until they get to the count. Exciting – I’m going to feel a bit like Matt Damon in the Bourne Identity.

  32. More to the point can Craig prove it’s true. Pictures of a lot of trashed buildings prove nothing.

    The proof is in the bombing indeed, as W. Penney spent a lot of time
    working out the affects of bombs and explosives on the surrounding area of the target site as well as its effects on human flesh.

    He had made significant contributions made to the application of collisions, explosion events that created shock waves, and applications involving military use of hydrodynamics and gravitational waves. The Admiralty and Home Office asked Penney to investigate problems connected with the properties of under-water blast waves from high explosives, a subject of great importance in designing ships and torpedoes.

    Hence it is a matter of simple arithmetic;

    Planners, that is those organising the bomb runs, for the jet jockeys to proceed to bomb the designated targets. These planners have the geography of the area in mind, they also have the demography of the said area in mind. They then take account of the kill range of their ordnance, as well as its effective range, ie maim and injure severely radius of the chosen weapon type.

    Thus the bombing runs are carried out based on these gruesome calculations of how many dead are these going to produce?

    Those ghouls exactly know how many they are going to kill to a man, before a jet is airborne. However to keep the ordinary man in his stupor, and keep the stupid happy an on side, out come the ridiculously low and more “acceptable” figures of the dead for the media, that is then recorded as “historical facts”. This excercise effectively paving the way for the next campaign of mass murder, because no one really got to know how many were killed in the first place.

    Fact that bombs and ordnance cost money and have to be put to use effectively somehow is never mentioned, because an effective use of killing industry product means deaths on industrial scale. This somehow dose not go along with the sinecure of; freedom, democracy and mum’s apple pie. Hence the under-reporting of the deaths by a huge margin, as the perpetrators are sure; dead men never talk!

    Funny that the opaque transparency of the tonnage of bombs is another little secret that is never probed, after all the tonnage of bombs can then be compared to the standards of the ultimate evil WWII and the resulting parities could open up a whole host of unwanted cans of worm.

    So yes Craig can prove the numbers of dead, and be pretty accurate about it all, all he needs is to find the tonnage of bombs, and the estimated kill ratio, and pretty soon can reveal how many corpses were produced so that some investor can get a pretty good return on their shares in the killing industry.

  33. Self-determination up your nose

    31 Aug, 2014 - 2:50 pm

    Really, OSCE monitors are needed. A disintegrating state like Britain cannot be trusted, especially now that it’s been taken in hand by US coup-plotters.

  34. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Aug, 2014 - 2:52 pm

    MJ

    “A while back Craig revealed that at some point during his tenure as an ambassador he was offered an honour, which he turned down because of his commitment to Scottish independence.”
    ___________________

    If memory serves, Craig turned down a VO (Victorian Order – it may have been an MVO – given to diplomats en poste for helping to arrange a Royal visit) not because of his commitment to Scottish independence but because he is a republican.

  35. Resident Dissident

    31 Aug, 2014 - 2:55 pm

    “Res diss, you fucking liar.”

    you lose the argument – next please

  36. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 3:12 pm

    Removal of the Saltire is not a new thing, fire engines in 2012 were forced to remove the the Saltire from their front grills,if memory serves me it was the Grampian region.

    You’re spot on Craig regarding, public debating here there and everywhere, the grassroots campaign by the yes camp (not the no camp as they have to bus up grassroots campaigners from down south)has been nothing short of remarkable.

    People all across Scotland and in all walks of life are now politically awake so to speak, men like Ivan McKee and Stewart Hosie, have inspired others to take to the dais.

    I wonder if this is how Scots felt during the “Age of Enlightenment” Voltaire, once said, of Scotland.

    “We look to Scotland for all our ideas of civilisation.”

    Maybe just maybe, an independent Scotland could lead the way again.

  37. Self-determination down your throat

    31 Aug, 2014 - 3:21 pm

    Caught lying, res diss flounces archly away.

    Wouldn’t know Bayesian inference if it dressed up like Jimmy Savile and watched you bathe.

  38. Craig; Other than morale boosting, can you provide features, as well as benefits of independence? Possible unintended consequences?

  39. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 3:26 pm

    Former CIA contractor Steven Kelley says that the ISIL terrorist group is a completely fabricated enemy created and funded by the United States.

    “This is a completely fabricated enemy,” he said in a phone interview with Press TV from Anaheim, California on Thursday.

    “The funding is completely from the United States and its allies and for people to think that this enemy is something that needs to be attacked in Syria or Iraq is a farce because obviously this is something that we created, we control and only now it has become inconvenient for us to attack this group as a legitimate enemy,”

    He made the remarks as US President Barack Obama is under pressure to seek congressional approval before expanding Washington’s military air campaign against ISIL targets from Iraq into neighboring Syria.

    The Pentagon has already launched at least 100 airstrikes on ISIL positions in northern Iraq since Obama authorized the use of force against the terrorist group earlier this month.

    A western backed terrorist regime,why am I not surprised.

  40. Resident Dissident

    31 Aug, 2014 - 3:33 pm

    Idiot

    If you were to bother looking at the article you highlight rather more closely you will see that writer is not forecasting a yes win – and indeed he is saying that the most likely outcome is a defeat – look at the normal curve showing the distribution of probable outcomes. Once you have understood the basic concepts and learnt some basic manners then we might get onto discussing whether the Bayesian inference applies in these circumstances – but I somehow doubt that it is within your intellectual and moral capacity.

  41. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 3:34 pm

    Craig; Other than morale boosting, can you provide features, as well as benefits of independence? Possible unintended consequences?
    ——————
    Ben

    Firstly Scotland will be rid of one layer of needless government namely Westminster, with this we will also thankfully jettison the preposterous House of Lords, these 800 odd fat cats, and 20 odd more David Cameron created recently, will no longer feed from the Scottish trough.

    Independence will allow Scotland to make its own decisions regarding whats best for its people, infrastructure and many other areas, it won’t be all sweetness and light there will be some tough decisions to make as well.

  42. Thanks RoS,; I understand the dream of independence. I just don’t understand how the New Boss will be different from the Old.

    There’s a lot of ways of making an omelette, but they are still made from eggs. I want to know what breed of chicken will come out when it hatches.

    There is no predictor, except human nature.

  43. Resident Dissident

    31 Aug, 2014 - 3:41 pm

    These guys usually have a rather better appreciation of statistics than our friends

    http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/scottish-independence/referendum-outcome

    However, if you think that abusing no voters will improve the chances of the yes campaign then please feel free to follow your inclination.

  44. The UK has it’s own version of US Constitution, but even the excellent lawyers and statesmen could not prevent lawyers from diddling with Common Law, the basis of the Constitution. They fixed it with Admiralty Law to do an end-run around Common Law. There is always those who want to force their own kind of outcome,

  45. ___________________

    ‘If memory serves, Craig turned down a VO (Victorian Order – it may have been an MVO – given to diplomats en poste for helping to arrange a Royal visit) not because of his commitment to Scottish independence but because he is a republican.’

    Whereas you bowed or knelt before the ‘Queen’ for your CMG. How many arses had to be licked to get that bauble? Do you dress up in the rig at home? Do let us see a pic. We need a laugh.

  46. Resident Dissident

    31 Aug, 2014 - 3:45 pm

    RoS

    Does it slightly worry you that post any independence Scotland would in effect be left with only two tiers of Government and (I think) no second chamber, with the lower tier almost entirely beholden to the first tier for its funding. Not many checks and balances there especially given that it would be difficult to claim that the SNP has been much of a force for decentralisation while in power?

  47. Self-determination got you

    31 Aug, 2014 - 3:46 pm

    Aww, how cute, innumerate chav trying to be supercilious! At least you learned to parrot the word ‘dis-tri-BU-tion’ since your last linkless lie. Good Boy! Inbred City of London pedo serfs never really learn probability, do they. It’s a feudal atavism, after all, and not a meritocracy.

    You lack motivation. All right then. Explain the distinction between Bayesian and probabilist approaches and how it relates to trend assessment, and I’ll give you peek into the toilets at Charterhouse.

  48. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 3:49 pm

    I see the old Zionist devil Henry Kissinger has a new book, coming out on the 9th of September, called “World Order.”

  49. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 3:57 pm

    Thanks RoS,; I understand the dream of independence. I just don’t understand how the New Boss will be different from the Old.

    There’s a lot of ways of making an omelette, but they are still made from eggs. I want to know what breed of chicken will come out when it hatches.

    There is no predictor, except human nature.
    ——————————
    Ben I see your point.

    Independence is about controlling Scotland’s finances, and spending them as we best see fit in Scotland for Scots. Of course there will be some corruption every government has some, but Westminster is unfortunately corrupt to the core.

    What kind of chicken you ask, well I feel Scotland is a country left of centre regarding politics, UK Labour once held that position, but now they’re as far right as the Tories, when it comes to policy making.

  50. ” So yes Craig can prove the numbers of dead, and be pretty accurate about it all, all he needs is to find the tonnage of bombs, and the estimated kill ratio ”

    Utter rubbish. This was the method used in the late 1930′s to predict civilian casualties during The Blitz and which proved to hopelessly wrong. The RAF and USAAF dropped 3,900 tons of bombs on Dresden killing between 23,000 and 25,000 on the other hand Operation Linebacker II in 1972 saw 20,000 tons of high explosive dropped on Hanoi for around 1,600 deaths.

    The only sure way is to count the dead and missing.

  51. Opinion polls and bookmakers (I’m not certain legalising these in Scotland in the early-60s was a good thing). Wow they’re authoritative indeed. Tell me Resident Dissident, if I may call you that, how come you have such a finger on the pulse, or is it a hand in the purse of all matters Scottish? I thought you were our Lvov correspondent, au fait with all things Banderist, coming after a stint as Zionist mouthpiece in residence, alternating with habbaduk, can I ask, is their any area of the world, any field of science, of economics, etc. in which you are not Resident Expert, I’m sure it would be a shorter list than those in which you are?

  52. “What kind of chicken you ask, well I feel Scotland is a country left of centre regarding politics”

    Yeah, I thought Obama was left-of-center, but governance brings the pale horse of compromise. Many feel that is a noble objective; doing good versus doing the perfect. I’ve found it disappointing, RoS.

  53. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 4:07 pm

    RoS

    Does it slightly worry you that post any independence Scotland would in effect be left with only two tiers of Government and (I think) no second chamber, with the lower tier almost entirely beholden to the first tier for its funding. Not many checks and balances there especially given that it would be difficult to claim that the SNP has been much of a force for decentralisation while in power?
    ——————–
    Resdis

    It has been difficult for the Scottish Government over the past few years due to Labour/Tory/Lib/Dem held councils who just don’t want to play ball, some like Tammany Hall aka Glasgow City council, have actively been trying to hinder the Scottish government at every turn.

    I don’t quite understand what you mean by “Upper and Lower” chambers Scotland has no upper house, there’s no need for it.

    Its parties, consist of SNP/Labour/Greens/Lib/Dems/Tories, these are the main parties at Holyrood

  54. Sounds like the NHS woman made a good argument for independence. Whether or not the Yes campaign wins, her arguments will need stronger support South of the border as well.

  55. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 4:13 pm

    “What kind of chicken you ask, well I feel Scotland is a country left of centre regarding politics”

    Yeah, I thought Obama was left-of-center, but governance brings the pale horse of compromise. Many feel that is a noble objective; doing good versus doing the perfect. I’ve found it disappointing, RoS.
    ———–
    Ben

    I deeply sympathise with you, I have been watching from afar and Obama hasn’t lived up to expectations especially his (PPACA) or Obamacare as its better known, not to mention the upsurge in Obamavilles all over the USA. They remind me of the old hoovervilles.

  56. “I deeply sympathise with you”

    RoS

    If Scotland’s population is left-of-center and follows the behavior rather than the words of elected reps, good on ‘em. The US is more conservative as a body and too busy working or lazy to give a fig. I hope that difference makes a difference for Scotland.

  57. Resident Dissident

    31 Aug, 2014 - 4:26 pm

    RoS

    So there is no need for upper and lower houses or hindrance from local authorities in your eyes – so a single all powerful authority is what you would look forward to in an independent Scotland. Whatever happened to the checks and balances of good governance.

    While I doubt Salmond and Co would be quite so blatant in their objectives, we must thank you for a glimpse of the Nats true colours.

  58. I think a de-centralized, village-like approach to government would work, and it certainly fits the culture of Scotland.

    Having a power-central, makes the government too powerful and corrupt. It also makes it difficult for the back-stage players to get a foothold with bribes and patrimony.

  59. “Firstly Scotland will be rid of one layer of needless government namely Westminster”

    But it will have to replace it pretty sharpish with its own Scottish equivalent. As needless Westminster agencies like the IRS, Passport Office, DWP etc withdraw and put up the For Sale notices, Scotland will have to replace them. It will need to open embassies in many of the world’s most expensive cities. It will need to recruit and equip its own military services.

    In the first few years therefore Scotland will be faced with rather high start up costs. In terms of unintended consequences, this is where the fundamental error of trying to cling on to the UK pound will really bite. Scotland will need to borrow money to see it through the early years. The banks may not be excessively indulgent when it comes to negotiating interest rates. You might be better off going to wonga.com. Before you know it, Scotland will be up to its ears in debt and about as independent as a glove puppet.

  60. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 4:47 pm

    “Firstly Scotland will be rid of one layer of needless government namely Westminster”

    But it will have to replace it pretty sharpish with its own Scottish equivalent. As needless Westminster agencies like the IRS, Passport Office, DWP etc withdraw and put up the For Sale notices, Scotland will have to replace them. It will need to open embassies in many of the world’s most expensive cities. It will need to recruit and equip its own military services.
    ===========================

    Its said that the UK’s tax system is the most complicated in the world, Scotland will have an 18 month window to set up any admin
    dept required many such as the pensions dept already exist in Scotland in Dundee and Motherwell.

    as for passports its envisaged everyone living in Scotland will keep their existing passport and when it expires a new Scottish passport will be issued, we have in Scotland a passport issuing office in Glasgow already set up.

    As for embassies we could share the UK’s depending on how negotiations go,and EU embassies I think are open to any EU member for assistance, yes we’ll need to set up a DWPbut some of the personnel and infrastructure are already in place in Scotland.

    If you want to read comprehensive version of Scotland’s future under independence,google the whitepaper “Scotlands Future” it has many many answers you seek.

    Finally I think you mentioned a Scottish defence force, well Scotland currently contributes £3 billion pound a years to UK defences in return we receive just one third of that back, that surplus will be used to build a tailored defence force for Scottish needs.

  61. Utter rubbish. This was the method used in the late 1930′s to predict civilian casualties during The Blitz and which proved to hopelessly wrong.

    Clearly your “well thought out” and “reasoned” rebuttal ought to be reliant on more than a feeling in your water. “Utter Rubbish” is based on what hypothesis?

    Further, you stringing an array of the USUK bombings for which the USUK reported figures of the deaths resulting from their bombings, is used. To count the dead or missing, who will be the comptroller? A US state department observer?

    Mathematics does not do prevarication, facts arrived at are only refuted by other equally pertinent facts.

    To parrot the “gubimnet” line on this blog about the mass murder enterprises in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Gaza, West Bank, …. there is a need for more than the tally of the dead; the US state department observer has to sign off the tally, evidently.

    Iraq’s population before the war was at 22 million, Iraq’s population today is 17 million. In the light of the probable population growth during the last seven years, the depletion of the Iraqi population (ie the dead) ought to have been of a higher magnitude, which can result in estimation of a combined six million Iraqi dead as result of the war on Iraq. however as you would know the official figures are estimated at 120,000 that is only a fraction of the six million or 2 percent of the dead that evidently the man form state department agrees with.

  62. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Aug, 2014 - 4:50 pm

    Self determination up your Urethra

    (or whatever your usual handle is – couldn’t be bothered to find it, sorry):

    “Your only hope is stuffing ballot boxes, to which you will doubtless resort.”
    ______________________

    From the Yessers Handly Little Book of Alibis* : Alibi N° 12.

    _____________________

    * To be opened only in the event of a No vote.

  63. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 4:53 pm

    I think a de-centralized, village-like approach to government would work, and it certainly fits the culture of Scotland.

    Having a power-central, makes the government too powerful and corrupt. It also makes it difficult for the back-stage players to get a foothold with bribes and patrimony.
    =========================
    Ben

    I agree there are thing local councils can do if they have the powers to do so.

  64. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Aug, 2014 - 4:55 pm

    Republicofscotland

    “Voltaire, once said, of Scotland.

    “We look to Scotland for all our ideas of civilisation.””
    _________________

    I don’t doubt your word for a moment, but Voltaire – like all writers of his age – was not above a judicious bit of flattery aka creeping from time to time. After all, he had some rather good things to say about Frederick the Great as well.

    PS- if you don’t believe me, please seek counsel of the Celtic Poetaster, sadly now longer with us (? :- ), Sofia Kibo-No

  65. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Aug, 2014 - 4:58 pm

    Ben

    “Thanks RoS,; I understand the dream of independence. I just don’t understand how the New Boss will be different from the Old.

    There’s a lot of ways of making an omelette, but they are still made from eggs. I want to know what breed of chicken will come out when it hatches.

    There is no predictor, except human nature.”
    _________________

    Happy to say “good post” and that I agree with you.

  66. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 4:59 pm

    So there is no need for upper and lower houses or hindrance from local authorities in your eyes – so a single all powerful authority is what you would look forward to in an independent Scotland. Whatever happened to the checks and balances of good governance.

    While I doubt Salmond and Co would be quite so blatant in their objectives, we must thank you for a glimpse of the Nats true colours.
    ————————–
    ResDis

    Of course local authorites will have more powers in an independent Scotland, Shetland and Orkney have already been promised them if independence is gained, but you must take one step at a time first we’ll need to get the negotiations over with and see how we stand.

  67. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Aug, 2014 - 5:01 pm

    Mary

    “Whereas you bowed or knelt before the ‘Queen’ for your CMG.”
    _________________

    Bit puzzled about why you put inverted commas round The Queen.

    She IS The Queen, surely? At least, I know of no other in the UK, nor, as far as I’m aware, is there a Pretender somewhere.

  68. I agree there are thing local councils can do if they have the powers to do so.

    Those corrupt, inbred busy bodies would be lining busy bodies would be lining their own pockets at much cheaper rates than the central power structure, the only way forward is the citizen based structures. The internet is for more than just buying and selling and or getting stalked by trolls.

    the vote app can be easily deployed to vote motions up or down and debate about about the motions can be a pretty lively among the citizens who can set up their own panel of experts a lot more quicker.

  69. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 5:10 pm

    Republicofscotland

    “Voltaire, once said, of Scotland.

    “We look to Scotland for all our ideas of civilisation.””
    _________________

    I don’t doubt your word for a moment, but Voltaire – like all writers of his age – was not above a judicious bit of flattery aka creeping from time to time. After all, he had some rather good things to say about Frederick the Great as well.

    PS- if you don’t believe me, please seek counsel of the Celtic Poetaster, sadly now longer with us (? :- ), Sofia Kibo-No
    —————————

    Habb

    “Of all the small nations on this earth, perhaps only the ancient Greeks, surpass the Scots in contributions to mankind.”

    Winston Churchill.

    Don’t worry I’ll add the slight for you save posting another pathetic comment.

    ——————–
    “I do not understand this squeamishness about the use of gas. We have definitely adopted the position at the Peace Conference of arguing in favour of the retention of gas as a permanent method of warfare. It is sheer affectation to lacerate a man with the poisonous fragment of a bursting shell and to boggle at making his eyes water by means of lachrymatory gas. I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes. The moral effect should be so good that the loss of life should be reduced to a minimum. It is not necessary to use only the most deadly gasses: gasses can be used which cause great inconvenience and would spread a lively terror and yet would leave no serious permanent effects on most of those affected.”

    Winston Churchill,on his use of chemical warfare, Mesopotamia circa 1920.

    Here’s a new concept for you Habb, instead of deriding everyone else’s comments why don’t post a constructive one of your own.

  70. “…for the third time, I was the only male on the panel yesterday.”

    How fashionable. Who needs democracy, when you can rely on women’s ‘vote’.

  71. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 5:17 pm

    I agree there are thing local councils can do if they have the powers to do so.

    Those corrupt, inbred busy bodies would be lining busy bodies would be lining their own pockets at much cheaper rates than the central power structure, the only way forward is the citizen based structures. The internet is for more than just buying and selling and or getting stalked by trolls.

    the vote app can be easily deployed to vote motions up or down and debate about about the motions can be a pretty lively among the citizens who can set up their own panel of experts a lot more quicker.
    —————————-

    Passerby

    That’s an interesting idea to give power to the common man, it would be easier to apply in a smaller nation such as Iceland.

  72. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 5:30 pm

    Saudi Arabia Remains on U.N. Human Rights Council despite 19 Beheadings, including One for “Sorcery
    ————————————-
    Ask any human rights organization where they stand on chopping off people’s heads and they’ll probably say such actions constitute a violation of human rights.
    —————————-

    And yet, one nation that does a lot of beheadings is on the United Nations’ Human Rights Council. Lately, in fact, Saudi Arabia can’t seem to get enough beheadings. Its government has executed at least 19 people using this method since August 4, according to Human Rights Watch (HRW).
    —————————-

    Of the 19, eight were found guilty of non-violent offences seven for drug smuggling and one for committing sorcery.
    The Saudi government executed more than 2,000 people between 1985 and 2013, about half of them foreign nationals. By comparison, the state of Texas executed 504 prisoners, none via beheading, over the same period.
    ———————————–

    So who is really running the UN? I think its the axis of evil USA, UK, and the illegal military state of Israel.

  73. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 5:40 pm

    The US has vetoed 42 Security Council resolutions, usually related to Israeli violations of human rights and international law, often violations of the 1949 Geneva Conventions on the treatment of people living under occupation. In addition to these veto’s, the US has also threatened casting veto’s of a number of resolutions if they were raised, thus stopping the projected resolution dead in its tracks. These vetoes allow Israel to act with impunity in its violations of international humanitarian laws. Therefore Israel sees no reason to change its behavior.
    ————————–
    Damning evidence that the US is in league with Israel,and that Zionist Jews control the US government.

  74. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Aug, 2014 - 5:42 pm

    “Here’s a new concept for you Habb, instead of deriding everyone else’s comments why don’t post a constructive one of your own.”
    ____________________

    Thanks for the tip, Republicofscotland.

    Do tell me though : of the many lines in your comment, how many are cut-and-paste and how many are your own?

  75. That’s an interesting idea to give power to the common man, it would be easier to apply in a smaller nation such as Iceland.

    The size of the nation is immaterial, the structures can be set in place and safeguarded for citizens to engage in the management of their own lives and their own land.

    The Achilles heel of any construct lies in its centralisation, the success of the oligarchs in procuring the help of plutocrats to run the joint to their advantage, and transform the country into a rigged casino with loaded dice, is an ever so palpable reality, that is the result of the centralisation of power structures.

    The many cannot be corrupted by the few, and thus a wholly decentralised power structure is less likely to be as readily corruptible as the current arrangements are.

    Further, given the responsibility of the lives of citizens lying on the shoulders of the citizens, will result in less laws and treaties, as the concurrent rise in threshold of morality and bounds of acceptability will render the silly laws moot. This will further enhance the experience of the interacting citizens with their own system of governance, that will prompt their further involvement a self breeding reactor if you will.

    Also the economic prosperity brought on by an informed and vibrant society will reduce the rates of crime and the need for prolific enforcement and intelligence apparatus will result in a much reduced structures, and the overheads thereof.

    Fact is the ordinary man/woman is far more decent and honourable than any of the current batch of carpetbaggers and opportunists sold and masqueraded as our dear leaders.

    This however is a nightmare scenario for the oligarchs and they will spend all their efforts in thwarting any such evolution.

  76. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Aug, 2014 - 5:44 pm

    RoS

    “So who is really running the UN? I think its the axis of evil USA, UK, and the illegal military state of Israel.”

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    “Damning evidence that the US is in league with Israel,and that Zionist Jews control the US government.”

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  77. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz for Zionist I guess Habbz

  78. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Aug, 2014 - 5:48 pm

    Republicofscotland

    That reference of mine to the late lamented Celtic Poetaster Sofia Kibo Noh really seems to have got you going, didn’t it.

    And withing the quarter of an hour as well!

    Nice.

  79. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Aug, 2014 - 5:51 pm

    Ah, DoNNyDarkSide – the Viennese ball-meister – has woken up and regaled us with a constructive comment à la Republicofscotland.

    Welcome Back, Side!

  80. Resident Dissident

    31 Aug, 2014 - 6:04 pm

    “Of course local authorites will have more powers in an independent Scotland, Shetland and Orkney have already been promised them if independence is gained, but you must take one step at a time first we’ll need to get the negotiations over with and see how we stand.”

    Is this something else in addition to NATO, Monarchy and Immigration policy where the idea is to give the SNP a blank cheque for them to fill in after the referendum should they win?

  81. Ha! A disingenuous reply.

    “Whereas you bowed or knelt before the ‘Queen’ for your CMG.”
    Bit puzled about why you put inverted commas round The Queen.
    She IS The Queen, surely? At least, I know of no other in the UK, nor, as far as I’m aware, is there a Pretender somewhere.’

    Didn’t deny getting the CMG did be?

  82. Crawford’s defence of the Israeli apartheid policies.

    https://twitter.com/CharlesCrawford/status/506074005682814977

  83. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 6:21 pm

    Is this something else in addition to NATO, Monarchy and Immigration policy where the idea is to give the SNP a blank cheque for them to fill in after the referendum should they win?
    —————–
    ResDis

    Blank cheque from whom? As for NATO I like many others do not wish to join it, but independence is the main thing just now we’ll deal with NATO later.
    ——————-
    Again many Scots don’t want a monarch they want a republic, its been touted that after sponging old Lizzie snuffs it a vote will be taken as to whether we want another unaccountable, unelected unanswerable poncing inbred blue blood as a head of state.

    AS for immigration you just have to look at the complete and utter shambolic mess, Westminster has made in that department, I’m pretty sure Holyrood couldn’t make such a pigs ear of it, as Westminster has.

  84. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 6:30 pm

    THE LAVON AFFAIR
    —————-
    In 1954, Israeli agents working in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including a United States diplomatic facility, and left evidence behind implicating Egyptian Muslims as the culprits. The ruse would have worked, had not one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to capture and identify one of the bombers, which in turn led to the round up of an Israeli spy ring.
    ———————
    Some of the spies were from Israel, while others were recruited from the local Jewish population. Israel responded to the scandal with claims in the media that there was no spy ring, that it was all a hoax perpetrated by “anti-Semites”.
    ———————
    Evil personified.

  85. Resident Dissident

    31 Aug, 2014 - 6:33 pm

    “AS for immigration you just have to look at the complete and utter shambolic mess, Westminster has made in that department, I’m pretty sure Holyrood couldn’t make such a pigs ear of it, as Westminster has.”

    As I pointed out earlier today the Scottish Govt is proposing to share the same policy should they win the referendum – just as it is proposing to stay in NATO and keep the Monarchy. Much as I want to see a British republic I am at least honest about my intentions. Doesn’t it worry you that there would be something of democratic deficit in the governing party were they to win the refendum?

    I could also ask where has been the debate about why the current bicameral parliament in the UK (flawed though it is) should be replaced by a unicameral parliament in Scotland – even though most western democracies have bicameral systems.

    The manner in which the referendum has been conducted should raise some very grave concerns about the democratic governance should independence occur. This would of course be a matter for the Scots – but the concerns are real and do exist.

  86. Iceland. Dramatic footage.

    Iceland Volcano Alert Amid Fresh Eruption

    Authorities raise the aviation warning code to red and close the airspace in an area near the subglacial Bardarbunga volcano.
    http://news.sky.com/story/1327665/iceland-volcano-alert-amid-fresh-eruption

  87. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 6:48 pm

    The manner in which the referendum has been conducted should raise some very grave concerns about the democratic governance should independence occur. This would of course be a matter for the Scots – but the concerns are real and do exist.
    ——————–

    DisRes
    ——–

    What do you mean by your above comment?

    Share what policy? immigration if that’s what you mean will be different in Scotland as it is in the rUK

    Scotland doesn’t need an upper house, why would it.

  88. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 6:52 pm

    Iceland. Dramatic footage.

    Iceland Volcano Alert Amid Fresh Eruption
    ————-
    Thanks for that link Mary, scary stuff indeed.

  89. Does anyone remember that youtube of the huge fireball at Homs?

    Did it look like a tactical nuke to you?

    It looked like this…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RKXuQ8lOe8

    But this was pretty big (15 kiloton)

    They are as small as one.

    One-kiloton. Identical fireball rapidly changing to black mushroom to 1100 feet.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSi2IRXrhSo

    Here’s the Homs video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYqd9VjogPM

    And just who in the ME has tac/nukes?

  90. The “No Thanks” video proves two things.

    1. Westminsiter is relying on fear and not sincere argument to advance the “No” case, and

    2. It doesn’t matter if you’re nice looking, having a Scottish accent makes you are NOT sexy!

  91. Judging by some of the comments here it seems British nationalists are starting to really panic. We can expect a fortnight of dirty tricks from them, and it won’t just be another BT video showing the patronizing attitude of Westminster spin doctors towards the people of Scotland. It’s all too late for the union. As exemplified by the many Yes meetings held throughout the country the people of Scotland are about to make political history. Keep up the good work, Craig.

  92. Republicofscotland

    31 Aug, 2014 - 7:20 pm

    Notable for its absence in the corporate media is any mention of the July 17 downing of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 over Ukrainian territory, killing all 298 people on board.

    At that time, and without any evidence, all U.S. and NATO officials immediately blamed Russia and the Ukrainian rebels in eastern Ukraine for shooting down the Boeing 777. They used this charge to whip the European Union into imposing sanctions on the Russian economy.

    On Aug. 11, the Dutch Safety Board announced that a preliminary report would be published in a week with the first factual finding of the ongoing investigation into the flight that departed from Amsterdam and crashed in Ukraine. The Netherlands was given custody of the flight data recorder, or black box recordings, from the crash.
    —————————

    As of Aug. 25, the Dutch government has refused to release the recordings. (RIA Novosti, Aug. 25) This, of course, immediately raises suspicions that the Kiev junta forces were responsible for the crash.
    ————————–
    Why was the Malaysian flight, diverted hundreds of miles by Kiev ground control over the battle zone, and why Kiev air traffic control data and radar data of the flight have still not been made ­public.
    ————————-

    Did the Ukrainian military shoot down the passenger plane simply to create a provocation that could be turned against the rebels in east Ukraine and Russia?
    ————————-

    Demands for an independent inquiry into the crash are growing. One petition raises the danger of the U.S. expansion of NATO and military encirclement of Russia and posed the possibility that Flight MH17’s crash resulted from an attempt to assassinate Russian President Vladimir Putin, whose aircraft was returning from South America the same day.
    ————————
    There’s no doubt the axis of evil shot down flight MH17.

    ————————-

  93. I was at the meeting in Cupar, my first active participation in anything organised in the campaign. The breadth of people there was notable, as was the lack of political party involvement. This appeared neither needed or wanted. The campaign is very much not owned by the SNP. I am optimistic that a yes vote will lead to a shake up generating new parties that will genuinely represent people and wash away the stagnant current crop of timeservers and lickspittles.

    Craig made a very good observation at Cupar. He said that judging by the posters he saw, the fields were voting no, but the houses were voting yes. I have to concur as this matches my observation. Given the number of people actually occupying fields is rather low, they won’t represent very many votes. No support is fragile and falling.

    The odds given by bookies at the moment must be driven by betting in the UK as a whole. Anyone on the ground in Scotland has to know the reality is different from the picture painted in the media. It would be interesting to see a geographical breakdown of betting trends. There could be money to be made!

  94. Didn’t deny getting the CMG did be?

    Mary is minor profit a Collector of Miniature Games too?

    I cannot believe this specimen is to be any more than a gobshite and caviller?

    This minor profit inflicted upon this blog is just one of those zionistan keyboard offence brigade, that evidently had targeted this blog for a while and had it all their way until the likes of me arrived and pissed on their parade.

    Although some of these low life scum seem to be given inordinate latitudes regardless of their vile conduct.

  95. Resident Dissident

    31 Aug, 2014 - 8:02 pm

    RoS

    The policy of the Scottish Govt should they win the referendum is to stay in NATO, keep the monarchy, keep the current immigration policy of the UK and Eire, keep the currency – yet significant proportions of those supporting the Yes campaign are saying that they will change the policies post referendum (yourself included) and giving appropriate nudges and winks. Sounds pretty much like a false prospectus is being offered.

    “Scotland doesn’t need an upper house, why would it.” To provide checks and balances to the lower house – particularly given the latter’s inclination to want to neuter the single tier of local government. Unicameral parliaments are pretty rare elsewhere in the democratic world for this very reason – that the matter has not been debated in Scotland adds to the democratic deficit.

  96. Leading health expert Allyson Pollock says Yes vote only way to secure NHS in Scotland
    August 31, 2014, 8:07 pm

    Pollock told the Sunday Herald: “Although people find this extraordinary and can’t believe it, the Health and Social Care Act of 2012 has abolished the NHS in England as a universal service. The NHS is reduced to a funding stream and a logo; increasingly all the services are going to be contracted in the marketplace.

    Full article saved here:

    http://johnhilley.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/allyson-pollock-independence-as.html

  97. Also from Medialens.
    Posted by Keith-264 on August 31, 2014, 8:05 pm

    Scottish universities braced for brain drain if country votes for independence
    Senior education figures voice fears about loss of funding and departure of top scientists in the event of a yes vote

    Severin Carrell, Scotland correspondent
    The Guardian, Sunday 31 August 2014 17.36 BST
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/aug/31/scottish-universities-brain-drain-vote-independence

    Is there any chicanery this rag won’t stoop to?

  98. I don’t think anyone can know whether the NHS is safe or not post-independence, as no one knows what the financial situation might be in an independent Scotland. Salmond and the woman at the rally are talking out of their hats.
    What we do know is that UK public sector jobs based in Scotland would go, and some larger businesses would be likely move to England, as well as that Scotland as a new country would face higher interest rates to borrow and would no longer receive UK grants. So, even with Scotland’s oil, the likelihood is there would be less money to spend, not more.

  99. Very interesting article by Paul Mason saying much the same things I am saying.
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/31/scottish-independence-yes-vote-turnout-polls

  100. I don’t think anyone can know whether the NHS is safe or not post-independence, as no one knows what the financial situation might be in an independent Scotland. Salmond and the woman at the rally are talking out of their hats.

    It does not cost that much to protect the human rights of the Scots, with a fundamental right of being free from pain and illness. In fact once they stop paying for the extravagant wars of choice and weapons cash pile the Scots can afford a first rate NHS.

    UK NHS is being bilked by the private sector operatives, who have a pretty captive NHS management to contract these regardless of their costs and performance. The dogma is to privatise means efficient. The reality is; privatise means redirection of the public funds into private coffers. So lets not kid ourselves, aye?

  101. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Aug, 2014 - 10:00 pm

    Republicofscotland recounts something that has been known about and documented for the last 70 years (but hey! it’s all grist to the anti-Jew mill):

    “THE LAVON AFFAIR
    —————-
    In 1954, Israeli agents working in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including a United States diplomatic facility, and left evidence behind implicating Egyptian Muslims as the culprits. The ruse would have worked, had not one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to capture and identify one of the bombers, which in turn led to the round up of an Israeli spy ring.
    ———.
    Some of the spies were from Israel, while others were recruited from the local Jewish population. Israel responded to the scandal with claims in the media that there was no spy ring, that it was all a hoax perpetrated by “anti-Semites”.

    ________________________

    What RoS of course carefully omits to recount is that – thanks to the democratic and open nature of the Israeli political system and a free and critical press – Pinchas Lavon was forced to resign his ministry when the the details of the affair came out and PM Moshe Sharett (who had in fact been unaware of the false flag operation) resigned the following year.

    None of which excuses the false flag operation, but still a far cry from what would have happened in any other Middle Eastern state at the time.

    *************************

    Buy $, £, € and shekels – dump rubles, reals, rupees and rands.

  102. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    31 Aug, 2014 - 10:02 pm

    Fedup

    “…and had it all their way until the likes of me arrived and pissed on their parade.”
    ___________________

    And then you woke up.

  103. Is it just me or ir Jim Murphy just a total wuss? A few eggs and angry rhetoric and he thinks he sees a sinister mob. He’d have lasted 2 minutes of the French revolution, the idiot. He’s too used to politics as a game between people in suits, maybe it’s a good thing if he learns his mistake. Prat.

  104. “Only strengthens existing views, Splendid! Since existing views, properly elicited, are more than adequate to shitcan the failing British police state.”

    Talking of police states. I was hearing from someone who knows that the amalgamation of the Scottish police forces into one single force under one command has allowed them to change the contracts of employment. As a result a lot of the older more experienced officers are leaving in droves. They are being replaced with a different breed of enforcement personnel.

    Oh and they are giving them guns.

  105. @RoS: Are you aware of the following leaked document…

    http://deepresource.wordpress.com/2014/08/30/the-netherlands-admits-existence-mh17-investigation-agreement/

    Netherlands, well maybe… suggestion, however unlikely, of Islamic terrorism? But it seems that Ukraine can also have a veto on release of Black Box information.

  106. And then you woke up.

    No then you started to forecast and fall apart, not that anyone cares what your brain farts are? That is other than your sycophants, villager et al, and Jemand the deviant scum.

    You sad old fart, you must have nothing in your life, other than the cause, for a minor porfit. “we are on “Dalia” what a sad, sad, sad old fart? Not an ending that you had thought for yourself, is it?

  107. Buy $, £, € and shekels – dump rubles, reals, rupees and rands.

    Grubby little man, peddling his grubby little priorities, this pompous arse suffers from a “superiority” complex that leaves his head up in the orbit, and lets his butt back back on earth to do the talking. That is a miracle on its own right, right?

  108. The lighter side… haven’t laughed so much about world politics since Spitting Image!

    http://rt.com/news/184008-gaza-syria-isis-ebola/

  109. @Habby & RoS:

    First I’ve heard of this event. To what extent did it help to heighten tensions leading to the Suez Crisis?

  110. Commander of the Male Genitals

    31 Aug, 2014 - 10:47 pm

    Mary, silly goose, you don’t have to grovel to the Queen for your CMG, the easy way was suck off Jimmy Savile!

  111. Ba'al Zevul (With Gaza)

    31 Aug, 2014 - 11:01 pm

    Crawford’s defence of the Israeli apartheid policies…. (no need for me to link to the asshat too.)

    After having killed 2000+ Palestinians and reduced a large proportion of Gaza to rubble, in response to the murder of three settler teenagers, guess what? That isn’t enough:

    http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/israel-annex-400-hectares-west-bank

    Utterly, blatantly, and on more than one count, in direct breach of international law. Demonstrating even to the most cautious observer that ethnic cleansing is the objective.

    I expect our resident mediator and negotiator will have a comment. So have I. Zionist bastards.

  112. Fred

    Don’t know about the contracts of employment, but much of what is happening in Police Scotland is indeed worrying.

  113. Peacewisher, you aint been researching a lot have you?

    Are you familiar with the Liberty affair?

    The “only democracy in the universe, and beyond, including the black holes” has been a crappy little aggressive entity that has been creating trouble from its conceptualisation to this date. Any time the zionist scum are caught red handed out they cry “antisem……” and remember holocaust and off they are let off the hook.

    All the while these zionist supremacist scum keep harping on about the acceptable face of their racism; “democracy” which evidently Arabs are not and hence giving the “democratic zionist scum” the licence so they can put the Arabs to death en mass, all in a “democratic way” of course.

  114. That’s just it with the unionist parties’ high-flyers. A debating exercise, defending the indefensible: from the sweaty smugness of Rifkind as Scottish Secretary defending Thatcher’s anti-Scots scorched earth destruction and abandonment and of viable industries, to Darling’s more recent unacceptable face of strident ‘No Surrender’ unionism, as pioneereed by fart-in-a-can (and now Lord-ed) Nicol Stephen. Party is all to these people, any ideas the Labour ‘movement’ of old once proclaimed were flushed away with a haughty shrug long ago, and they’ll sing any old tune for their five course suppers.

    At the lower end, the less erudite –but fully indoctrinated followers, we have Murphy: Murphy’s once Tory Eastwood/East Renfrewshire constituency is of course jerry-mandered to hell, with mostly working-class Barrhead having been tacked onto it, a gift from neighbouring Adams’ family Paisley seat, giving Labour and Murphy a sliver of a majority. Lives, votes transferred amongst Labour arms dealer friendly wrong ‘uns and schemers like football stickers in a playground: “Need some poor desperate people looking for change, have some of my spare losers, Jim”. Jumping Jim Flash is a goner, electorally and politically. I would imagine Murphy and his ilk are strong-arming for Ermine -now, as after the the referendum, crowning their failure and that of their bitter political creed, that would be harder still to to justify or tolerate, after 2015 improbable and after 2016, simply bizarre.

  115. @Fedup. You’re right but I am learning. The mistake was to allow holocaust (describing a large-scale massacre) to become The Holocaust. And anyway there has now been a completed new holocaust… in The Donbass.

  116. technicolour

    1 Sep, 2014 - 12:06 am

    Oh, by the way, Jim Murphy was in charge of trying to push Labour’s Legislative & Regulatory Reform Bill (which would have given the executive, or ‘any minister’ the opportunity to pass any legislation without parliamentary scrutiny) through the Commons: he tried very hard.

    Good luck, Scotland. The worse part of me still hopes you vote ‘no’ because frankly I’m jealous. And I am worried because I can see the IMF and WTO swooping to stitch you up immediately after a yes vote, as they did to the ANC and Solidarity, But otherwise, and bearing in mind that decent people will of course be voting ‘no’ – good luck.

  117. technicolour

    1 Sep, 2014 - 12:08 am

    to clarify, ‘decent people too may also be voting ‘no’..

  118. technicolour

    1 Sep, 2014 - 12:10 am

    But you’ll still have people like Jim Murphy in charge, though, won’t you?

  119. BrianFujisanWabi-sabi

    1 Sep, 2014 - 12:32 am

    Fields Voting No…i have noticed this too… But Not The Rainbow Machair Fields of Barra… And Vatersay.

    Sounds like the tour Has Been great Craig…Magic Vibes

    And the most Amazing thing happened yesterday ..a lady friend said check that thing out… Jamie’s big green Home on wheels thingy… passing…right here in my town.

  120. Police Scotland was an SNP idea as was increasing the number of plods by 1,000; the only apparent reason being to boast of having more police per head of population than England. From some reports it would appear that standards have had to be lowered to get enough recruits.

    The next problem was finding them all something to do:-

    “In June 2014 a leaked Police Scotland internal email to police managers in Dunfermline ordered a substantial increase in “stop and search” activities and warned any police officers not meeting the higher targets would be subjected to a performance development review. Police Scotland has previously denied setting stop and search performance targets for individual officers.

    In July 2014 it was revealed that between April and December 2013, Police Scotland’s officers stopped and searched members of the Scottish public at a rate of 979.6 per 10,000 people, a rate was three times higher than that of London’s Metropolitan Police and nine times higher than that of the New York Police Department. It was also revealed that the Scottish Police Authority, the body tasked with overseeing Police Scotland, had removed criticism of Police Scotland’s use of “stop and search” powers from a report it had commissioned. Also removed from the report were calls for a review of stop and search on children and for clarification of the policy’s primary aim. “

  121. Not My Scotland but Our Israel.

    I could not believe what I was hearing on the BBC News last night but it is true. Ba’al and Brian have given links above.

    Israel to take over West Bank land
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29008045

    There are no words for more of the Zionists’ abject cruelty. Retribution. Presumably God told them they could do more of the same.

    However a reminder that ‘Thou shalt not steal’ is one of the commandments.

    Another is ‘Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house’

    Exodus 20.17

    ~~

    Here a US radio host takes on some Zionist Jews.

    Watch: US broadcaster Mike Malloy wipes the floor with Israel apologists

    Reasoning with a Zionist is an oxymoron. It is as self-contradictory as saying something is falsely true.

    This, we have no doubt, is the conclusion everyone who has tried to have a rational, fact-based debate with Zionists would have drawn.

    If that is also your experience – or if you have never had the misfortune of debating with a Zionist – then you will want to listen to the two short clips below from Mike Malloy’s radio show.

    For those who don’t know him, Malloy is a self-syndicated American radio broadcaster from Atlanta, Georgia, who describes himself as “a traditional liberal democrat doing his part to return the Democratic Party to its liberal roots”.

    In this clip, he routs a Zionist caller who uses the jaded argument that Israel, the aggressor and occupier, has a right to defend its ill-gotten gains.

    http://www.redressonline.com/2014/08/watch-us-broadcaster-mike-malloy-wipes-the-floor-with-israel-apologists/

  122. An Old Man and a Young Man in Gaza – A Poem

    Jul 12 2014
    By Heathcote William

    An old man holds a placard that reads,
    “You take my water, burn my olive trees,
    Destroy my house, take my job, steal my land,
    Imprison my father, kill my mother,
    Bombard my country, starve us all,
    Humiliate us all, but I am to blame:
    I shot a rocket back.”

    Here are some ungodly chants
    From the Zionist Book of Psalms
    Which are used to justify
    Laying waste to a whole country
    And to its inhabitants:

    http://www.palestinechronicle.com/an-old-man-and-a-young-man-in-gaza-a-poem/#.VAQO1eF0z4Y

  123. Peacewisher

    1 Sep, 2014 - 7:19 am

    That is terrible news, Mary. At least the BBC have reported it, so is that progress? Still appalled that their main story from Friday morning onwards was the apparent abduction of a child from hospital by… his parents. Still one of its main stories this morning. A cynic might suggest that other important news was being obscured?

  124. This is about the referendum and very funny.

    Funny! The end of neoliberalism? Why Scottish independence could save the world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pULblkS5uZI

    Put on YT by Eric Swanepoel who worked for that excellent MSP Bill Wilson.

    There is one of Craig in his list of YTs here

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCktJ9BxmsCwTy0dFoFsvSmg

  125. Eric’s twitter has some good links.

    https://twitter.com/rericswan

  126. This is Bill Wilson’s Facebook. Glad he’s still going strong.

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Bill-Wilson/112136225533433

    and his old website

    http://www.billwilsonmsp.org/

  127. The top ten funniest jokes at the Edinburgh Fringe.

    The top 10 were:

    1.Rob Auton – “I heard a rumour that Cadbury is bringing out an oriental chocolate bar. Could be a Chinese Wispa.”

    2.Alex Horne – “I used to work in a shoe-recycling shop. It was sole-destroying.”

    3.Alfie Moore – “I’m in a same-sex marriage… the sex is always the same.”

    4.Tim Vine – “My friend told me he was going to a fancy dress party as an Italian island. I said to him ‘Don’t be Sicily’.”

    5.Gary Delaney – “I can give you the cause of anaphylactic shock in a nutshell.”

    6.Phil Wang – “The Pope is a lot like Doctor Who. He never dies, just keeps being replaced by white men.”

    7.Marcus Brigstocke – “You know you are fat when you hug a child and it gets lost.”

    8.Liam Williams – “The universe implodes. No matter.”

    9.Bobby Mair – “I was adopted at birth and have never met my mum. That makes it very difficult to enjoy any lapdance.”

    10.Chris Coltrane – “The good thing about lending someone your time machine is that you basically get it back immediately.”

    ??

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-23753634

  128. I’ve not been involved with the discussions of an independent Scotland anywhere near as much as I would have liked, but from I have seen, the discourse is abysmal when sticky issues come up.

    First off all my declaration of my bias. I hate the British establishment and would like to see it collapse or at least take on a permanently incapacitating blow (as is happening via usury – don’t say you weren’t warned) Secondly, I would love to see an independent Scotland (it’s not based upon my first declaration).

    The issues…

    1) How Scotland could possibly be an independent nation when it’s tied to the pound sterling. I’m afraid allowing the desire for a ‘free’ Scotland doesn’t cut the mustard. Not only that, but the nearly completely missed aspect of Global corporations which make a mockery of national laws (See Pilgers ‘Breaking the Mirror’ for an example) also draw serious questions of ‘What exactly is independence anyway, and to want extent will can it be pursued? P.S. I do not take EU nations under the Euro to be independent, but rather statelets of the European state.

    2) The Nuclear issue. I am worried that the de-nuclearisation of Scotland will never take place, but rather fall victim to the usual tricks, i.e. be tired up in a “review” for a near double digit amount of years only to find it “impractical” to move all the nuclear waste back to England and Wales (who will then ultimately pay pennies on the hundreds of pounds to some undeveloped nation to ‘store’ it for them, i.e. allow it over time to disperse throughout their lands)

    3) The connection with NATO. Will Scotland remove itself from this Satanic club of killers. It bloody well should, but what when say Turkey tries again to draw itself into a war by flying a NATO plane over another countries territory with the purpose if having it shot down – pretexting a NATO response. How could a NATO Scotland avoid tat?

    4) Pledges. Have any actually been made that are of clear benefit to the people of Scotland, and why on earth should we not expect these to be broken (as they were probably intended to be broken when first made)?

    5) Little safeguard seems have been planned so as to stop the emergence of an over authoritarian government. Someone earlier asked about these ‘checks and balances’.

    6) What laws about foreign interference with Scottish political decision making have are there? E.g. Foreign organisation companies (or even domestic companies) being involved with political campaigning?

    7) What will be done to ensure versions of the slithering vermin in Buck palace don’t re-emerge in Scotland?

    8) What are the proposals for prosecuting English and Welsh criminals (predominately in the corporate sector) for their fraudulent activities?

    9) What part will religious values place in a newly independent Scotland?

    10) How to ensure the awfully deceptive and pro-Israyhell BBC is purged from Scotland AND that nothing similar comes to take its place.

    11) What costing / revenue attributing exercises have been done towards a Scottish NHS? How sustainable is a Scottish NHS over the next, say, 20 years?

    12) Similar question to #11 but on the topic of education.

    I realise these issues don’t make for good soundbites, although the nuclear (or should that be “unclear” ??) issue has had a couple of shallow thought lines said in its general direction.

    Hopefully some good responses will be forthcoming here (or some good PRE-READ links at least)

    Regards.

  129. ROS – Yes ISIS/ISIL/IS or the ‘jayvee’ team according to Obama, are US funded.

    The UK/US/IS game plan is plainly subterfuge with US drone/air attacks on ‘jayvee’ captured US armament concentrated near the Mosul Dam, allegedly averting flooding the US embassy in Baghdad , while at the same time ISIS fights for the Rabia/Yarubiyah border crossing and Highway 47 to have a direct connection to Syria’s Hasakah province.

    Ad Interim Israel prepares a tactical nuke strike in Syria and I wait for Congress to approve the ongoing US drone ‘scam-strikes’ on ISIS in Syria which is the main thrust of this deceit.

  130. Thanks for the morning jokes Mary, always good to start the day with a smile ! :)

  131. “Don’t know about the contracts of employment, but much of what is happening in Police Scotland is indeed worrying.”

    Yes. Already here in the Highlands we have had the only main road into the county closed for a day because they closed the local police control centre. Now if someone rings the police they are talking to someone a hundred miles away in Inverness, they have no local knowledge and if they use an outside contractor, such as a recovery firm, it is local to them not us.

    I thought a Scottish government was supposed to give us more control. As far as policing is concerned here in the far north what little control over our affairs we had is being taken away from us and being shipped south. Armed police patrolling the streets we nave no local say in whatsoever, they take their orders directly from Edinburgh.

  132. “Thanks for the morning jokes Mary, always good to start the day with a smile ! ”

    They are all old jokes. Literally, those are last years winners.

    You can see this years winners here.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-28838287

  133. nevermind, Scotland will not allow FoI's to srew up their foreign policy

    1 Sep, 2014 - 10:04 am

    “Given the number of people actually occupying fields is rather low, they won’t represent very many votes. No support is fragile and falling”

    Thanks for your account and first post here after the public meeting at Cupar, JG. The existing deferrence and economic necessities between field and house, to keep it simple, are a decisive factor,imho, and one can expect the same arm twisting, as I have witnessed at the ballot box in Blackburn, vociferous so called counters who are explaining to those coming forward to vote in not uncertain terms, that their jobs depend on x y or z.
    Thats how British democracy works for ethnic minorities, you are either told by your family elder, invited to party speeches, fed and told to vote as you should, or blackmailed with your husbands/wife’s job on the line.

    Expect every dirty trick in the book, Craig and myself seen a few during the last ten years and beyond, and watch those ballot boxes, ideally have them sealed with your/everyone elses seal, but do not reveal your seal until absolutely necessarry, so they can’t be replicated at the last minute.
    Reject a count on the next day, demand that votes are counted when the ballot closes, whatever time, its really important.

    This one is for Mary the sleuth. Norwich Conservative announced their candidate from Surrey, due to the lack of locally able and willing candidates to loose, an exciting contest in Norwich south with no Independent candidate bar UKIP’s, the rest are all minority party politician. Who is she, why us?
    http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/politics/tory_candidate_for_norwich_south_announced_1_3751310

  134. Fred; “They are all old jokes. Literally, those are last years winners”

    New to me, and funnier than this year’s, but thanks anyway !

  135. @Nevermind

    The Unionists are ahead in the polls and odds on favourites at the bookies.

    Why on earth would they be stuffing ballot boxes?

    Those with the incentive to cheat are those who would otherwise loose so why are you accusing the Unionists of cheating before the referendum has even took place?

  136. nevermind, Scotland will not allow FoI's to srew up their foreign policy

    1 Sep, 2014 - 10:24 am

    Another chunk of Palestine has been annexed and stolen by zionists, in retribution for their own crimes,i.e. the cadre of rogues/Isis? hired by Israel to cause the false flag killing of two young soldiers and one civilian teenager, the cause for the latest carnage and now the reason given for the stealing of more land.
    Because they can, with impunity, because Obama is licking AIPACs boots.

    Its not the US that is leading the latest initiatives in Iraq, as Mark G was already hinting at, imho it is the zionists and Isis in unison who are tearing the fabric of borders apart, licking their lips at the possible gains in oil gas and water.

    This, regardless of what twaddle charles Crawstalk writes, will be another provocation to an already ravaged society in Gaza, seemingly the only entity that is prepared to oppose this fascism.

    The UN is finished as a political body, it has been finished for decades, a slow trickle of blackmail, arm twisting, false flagging and lack of moral spine, has brought it to an end. We are now in the leviathan era of world domination, are told what to think and do by those who can threaten and scare us, so the flames of freedom and self determination eminating from Scotland are a beacon to us all, they represent hope and humanity.

  137. nevermind, Scotland will not allow FoI's to srew up their foreign policy

    1 Sep, 2014 - 10:41 am

    “Why on earth would they be stuffing ballot boxes?”
    Well Fred, the simple answer is, thats what political parties try and do to keep in power, even when they are favourite, whatever obsessions the bookies have with their odds.

    The NO campaign can’t kill the ideals of Independence, its out there, a big and powerfull genie that does not fit back into the bottle, however much they might try. A close vote/win will not be enough for the ‘disabled together’ campaign, they will have to win with at least a 10% margin to make it stick, for that they will do anything and it is essential to watch the ballot boxes and polling stations.
    Those who are counters, ensure you have a camera on you and enough water to last the day. Another tip for counters, be polite if people speak to you, don’t hassle them with questions as to what their voting numbers are, its unecessarry.

    I detest counters as they are merely there to remind you of party political pressures and their wishfull thinking, not your free vote. They can be obnoxious and intimidating to say the least.But, if the No side organises them, be there to watch their actions!

  138. Fred’s right as always. ;) Sorry. My lot were on the front page and I did not therefore think to look at the date.

  139. “Well Fred, the simple answer is, thats what political parties try and do to keep in power, even when they are favourite, whatever obsessions the bookies have with their odds.”

    But surely the side to expect to cheat is the side likely to lose if they don’t.

    It’s simple logic.

  140. Never heard of her Nevermind. I don’t know any Tory types so have nobody to ask. Wonder what the husband’s job of ‘government relations in Brussels’ consists of? She sounds very well embedded in our rotten establishment. I will dig around.

    Just to say Nevermind that your post @ 10.24am is excellent. Says it all.

    ~~~

    A relative to whom I sent Craig’s Cupar post passed it around saying:

    ‘Craig Murray is a remarkable man http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/ Sidelined by the establishment because he tells the truth. Was our ambassador to Uzbekistan where he found the most terrible torture proceeding in 2001 – with CIA and MI6 knowledge. Year before the planned bombing and invasion of Afghanistan and ”9/11”.

    Has his downs but brilliant most of the time as a writer and thinker. The Scots need to get shot of the Westminster sewer, and so do we.

    He writes:

    One of the most unexpectedly invigorating aspects of the campaign is that in packed town hall meetings, I have been sharing the platform with people who are not good public speakers. If that sounds paradoxical, it is because often they have never done any public speaking before. Yesterday in Cupar there was an excellent lady who works in the NHS who had a deep knowledge of its workings and of the threats from privatization of its services, including the mechanisms by which these privatisations were being advanced. She believed that after a No vote it would not be possible for the Scottish NHS to continue to be insulated from some of these trends, and she explained why she felt that.

    There was no polish to her quiet delivery, but her heartfelt sincerity and the depth of her knowledge held the audience in intent silence. She had never spoken in public before. It was truly inspiring.

    The substance of the campaign is people in local communities actually talking to each other about what is important to their communities and they way their society is organized. I have never seen anything to compare this to. No wonder the politicians have no idea how to counter it. The happy lack of hierarchical power structures in the campaign on the ground seems to relate to the fact that so many women are coming forward as speakers – for the third time, I was the only male on the panel yesterday.’</blockquote

    This is what I have always hoped for in England – away from the MSM, citizens telling the facts, seeing what is being planned for them and standing against it.

  141. nevermind, Scotland will not allow FoI's to srew up their foreign policy

    1 Sep, 2014 - 11:46 am

    “But surely the side to expect to cheat is the side likely to lose if they don’t.”

    Your simple logic maybe, as someone who has fought a few elections and helped many candidates I have seen most of what I said.

    Its not the side that is hopefull to change the status quo that has most to loose, but the side that has already carved up the vested interests, the side that does not want their cartwheels to come off, their cosy relationships to change.

    And to be told by Murphy that he’s been pelted with eggs by a mob, a man who sees nothing in the destruction of Gaza, the pelting of innocent children with bombs and he does not want to comment on it, is like being told by Dracula that drinking blood is bad for you.

  142. nevermind, Scotland will not allow FoI's to srew up their foreign policy

    1 Sep, 2014 - 11:55 am

    Many are yearning for the same detachment from minority party politics in England, Mary, soon to be free to reform itself after this vote goes the yes way.

    The No campaign seems to have the delusion that this vote would be the end of the story should it go their way, it is not! Young people will look twice at the shambles the union represents and vote for their future in a free and Independent Scotland.

  143. Without checking, I fear that Lisa Townsend’s current boss might be a CFoI judging from this.

    Oral Answers to Questions — Justice: Israeli Teenagers (Abduction and Murder) (1 July 2014)
    James Morris: Notwithstanding the Minister’s remarks about the need for restraint, does he not agree that Israel faces a toxic combination of brutal terrorism, as revealed in this particular incident, and of rocket attacks from Gaza and that as a sovereign country it has the absolute right to defend and protect its citizens against these threats?

    No need to check.

    Name of donor: Conservative Friends of Israel
    Address of donor: 45b Westbourne Terrace, London W2 3UR
    Amount of donation (or estimate of the probable value): costs of visit; £1,525
    Destination of visit: Israel
    Date of visit: 5-8 October 2013
    Purpose of visit: meetings with Israeli companies, Government officials and think tanks to explore the challenges of cyber security
    (Registered 22 October 2013)

    and to AIPAC too

    Name of donor: The American Israel Education Foundation
    Address of donor: 251H Street, NW Washington DC, 20001, USA
    Amount of donation (or estimate of the probable value): £1,285
    Destination of visit: Washington DC, USA
    Date of visit: 21–24 May 2011
    Purpose of visit: To attend the American Israel Public Affairs Committee 3-day forum on homeland security and counter-terrorism, to facilitate a conversation between American, European and Israeli allies.
    (Registered 16 June 2011)

    How lovely.

    http://www.theyworkforyou.com/regmem/?p=24855

  144. The twerp Abbott is being ever so helpful towards the war effort of the evil USUKIsNATO axis.

    Australian military aircraft to supply arms to Iraqi Kurds

    By Peter Symonds
    1 September 2014

    The Australian government is rapidly escalating its involvement in US-led military operations inside Iraq with the announcement yesterday that Australian military aircraft will transport arms and ammunition to Kurdish peshmerga militias in northern Iraq. Australia joins Germany, Italy, France, Canada, Britain as well as the US, in shipping military hardware to the Iraqi Kurds.

    As the Obama administration steps up military action in Iraq and extends its spying operations in Syria, Prime Minister Tony Abbott has signalled Australian support for a wider war against Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) militias. While Abbott declared that Australian combat troops would not be involved, Fairfax media reports this morning that elite SAS forces will accompany the arms shipments.

    /..
    http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/09/01/irau-s01.html

    A Green wanted it debated but was ignored.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gsPjq4aFqc

  145. nevermind, Scotland will not allow FoI's to srew up their foreign policy

    1 Sep, 2014 - 12:18 pm

    Some 400 jihadist and 20 ex Bundeswehr soldiers are fighting for isis, making it necessarrry to find a mechanism of controlling their activities for whence their principled stance is being replaced with a whimper for family, mum and home.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/german-weapons-for-kurds-may-be-used-on-radicalized-german-soldiers-a-989194.html

    Speaking as a German ex soldier, I find that their split loyalties, contraire to the oath they took when they signed up to defend German soil, is somewhat stretching it. Some clever lawyer will find reasons for intervening in their right to return home to Germany and I can’t blame them for it.

    As for the same solutions proposed here, does this mean any soldiers who fight abroad as fully paid mercenaries will also have their acces back home denied? Are these mercenaries an organised profession? or are the business like Jihadists, posting their accounts online and bragging about their financial probety, in a different categorie.

    Are all the fascist jihadies/Academists fighting/loosing in the Ukraine now stateless? without a place to return to? or are these laws just for jihadies?

    http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&sqi=2&ved=0CC0QFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Frt.com%2Fnews%2F158212-academi-blackwater-ukraine-military%2F&ei=klUEVNXzM8O40QXO5oDICw&usg=AFQjCNFgxFqTXkIc9R66dP-g_UxnnyS-4Q&bvm=bv.74115972,d.d2k

    Scotland woul;d do well in keeping out of NATO and joining in with the non aligned such as Norway.

  146. “The No campaign seems to have the delusion that this vote would be the end of the story should it go their way”

    Do you think it would be the end of the story if the Yes vote won?

  147. @ Mary

    “The twerp Abbott is being ever so helpful towards the war effort of the evil USUKIsNATO axis.”

    Indeed. I think you are being way too kind in calling Abbott a ‘twerp’ though. I type from Australia. Abbott is a fucking idiot, a hard-right ideologue, and I can’t say too much more. Shall I say, I think he has appears to have a touch of Blair about him. In the future, should be ever have an enlightened, civilised Earth, they will ask ‘how did people like Blair\Abbott\Obama’ ever become leaders?

    For what it’s worth, in Abbott’s case it’s pretty obvious. He has mentors and protectors from the ‘Big End’ of town, the most powerful of whom is Murdoch – though I think it’s important to note that Murdoch is far from the only one. Abbott, like Cameron, is a curiously protected bloke.

    As to his support for arming Kurds – inc. the PKK, a ‘terrorist’ group about which he hasn’t been asked – this is just the price on the ticket really. You support the NATO oligarchs or they ruin you. Abbott’s fall, when it happens, will be swift, and interesting, and I personally think he won’t last 3 years. But his successor will do much the same.

  148. It would be nice if my comment that’s awaiting moderation could
    be looked at. Thanks. The irony that it’s not published hasn’t
    escaped me.
    I wonder why it has been contained?

  149. I think you’ll find Norway’s in NATO Nevermind. But agree , Scotland should stay out of the Killer Club.

    Johann Lamont defends the advert that has scared off Scottish women. She said she knows women like that.She’s backing the Nag that lost her the prize.

    And Banksy speaks profoundly once again.
    https://twitter.com/thereaIbanksy/status/506226623931514880/photo/1

  150. Apologies Ne’rmind, It was a quote and not you.

  151. nevermind, Scotland will not allow FoI's to srew up their foreign policy

    1 Sep, 2014 - 1:13 pm

    was waiting for this from you or Fred, MJ.
    “Do you think it would be the end of the story if the Yes vote won?”

    ‘Yes’, and I hope that you will not feel too bowled over by openess and positive energy when it happens. You do well to listen to some of the negativity you are excusing/exhausting and what it has done to you.

  152. nevermind, Scotland will not allow FoI's to srew up their foreign policy

    1 Sep, 2014 - 1:17 pm

    I might come over as harsh to some Donny, but I got your point, my mistake, mixed up EU and NATO here and thanks for the little banksy, so on the ball the man.

  153. Cheers Brendan. Your message is in sharp contrast to those of Jemand, your fellow countryman who always rubbishes my posts on here!

  154. “Your simple logic maybe, as someone who has fought a few elections and helped many candidates I have seen most of what I said.”

    I find simple logic is the best sort.

    When people start trying to make it complicated it usually means they are trying to make it say what they want it to say.

  155. “‘Yes’, and I hope that you will not feel too bowled over by openess and positive energy when it happens”

    OK, I’ll try. I suspect however that openness and positive energy won’t be quite enough on this occasion. When you’ve all sobered up you’ll have some tedious but important matters to sort out and I really think you should have done this before the party started. I’m negative in the sense that reminding someone to fasten their seatbelt is negative.

  156. nevermind, Scotland will not allow FoI's to srew up their foreign policy

    1 Sep, 2014 - 1:57 pm

    I find simple logic is the best sort.

    Just for you, Fred, I’ve made it simple for you. A positive Yes to a free Scotland.

  157. nevermind, Scotland will be free

    1 Sep, 2014 - 1:59 pm

    sorry about previous post, my changed avatar did not work firts time round.

    ‘I find simple logic is the best sort.’

    Just for you, Fred, I’ve made it simple for you. A positive Yes to a free Scotland.

  158. British journalist, Yvonne Ridley, also supports Scottish independence for good reasons. “Under the present Holyrood government there is no way the lives of Scottish soldiers would have been wasted or used as cannon fodder in Iraq or Afghanistan for imperialistic wars built on lies and deception. The referendum is all about putting people before politics and that’s something the war-mongering, sleazy, expense-fiddling, out-of-touch cronies and posh kids in Westminster know nothing about,” Ridley said.

    The blind support for Israeli slaughter of innocents in Gaza by David Cameron, Ed Miliband and the powerful British Jewish Lobby has boosted “yes” vote for Scottish independence.

    “Israel has been the judge, the trial and the executioner. People in Scotland feel that they’re helpless, because the Scottish government does not have any control over our foreign policy or international affairs. They’re seeing the atrocities on their TV screens and they’re beginning to question it,” says Shabbar Jaffri, Scottish National Party (SNP) Councillor for Greater Pollok area of Glasgow.

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/09/01/ex-uk-envoy-britain-is-a-rouge-state-danger-to-world/

  159. “And Banksy speaks profoundly once again.
    https://twitter.com/thereaIbanksy/status/506226623931514880/photo/1

    The picture is faked, photoshoped.

    Se here to see the original.

    http://www.gran-angular.net/banksy-galeria-de-imagenes/2011/11/13/

  160. 95% of bets placed in Scotland are for yes.

    http://www.bettingpro.com/category/political-betting/95-of-all-scottish-independence-bets-placed-on-yes-vote-2014083000103/

    Do the careful with money Scots know something that England doesn’t? Maybe the BBC should tell us…

  161. “Under the present Holyrood government there is no way the lives of Scottish soldiers would have been wasted or used as cannon fodder in Iraq or Afghanistan ”

    Well as the present Holyrood government wants to be a member of NATO Scottish soldiers may well have found themselves fighting in Afghanistan.

  162. Republicofscotland

    1 Sep, 2014 - 3:18 pm

    Good posts Mary 7.05am & 7.17am

    Those SoB’s want to take over the world, and the EU and the US are complicit.

  163. “95% of bets placed in Scotland are for yes.”

    Your article actually says 95% of the bets placed since last Monday. It was printed Saturday, doesn’t say when Ladbrooks made the statement.

    Odds still 5/1 against.

  164. “Craig is not driven by national pride (he’s English, born and bred where he continues to live). He is driven completely by his hatred of the British state…”

    Er, who gives a stuff about the motivation of any of us? I mean, we are all voting for reasons of our own and the ballot papers all look the same. Just so long as the Yes team emerges ahead, why should any of us care why others votes as we did?

    I’m not Scottish either, in spite of my name. I’m from the centre of the known universe known as Manchester and I only moved to Leith last year, but I damn well have a vote and I will use it for Yes.

    Contrary to what you may have heard, Scotland owes less to kilts, bagpipes and Highland chicken and more to tracksuit bottoms, canned music and deep fried pizza.

    The rich and their middle class stooges can have Britain – I’ll settle for Scotland. It’s the part of Britain that did not change and refused to make the compromises that New Labour had to make to get enough of the Southern English scrote vote to get elected.

  165. Republicofscotland

    1 Sep, 2014 - 3:27 pm

    Not long now, till Better Together’s violent foot soldiers take to the streets of Edinburgh, waving their King Billy flags alongside their “Jist say Naw” flags, whilst beating the bejesus out of the drums, look out Edinburgh you’ll need your tin hat that day.

    If the unthinkable happens and we vote no, every Saturday prior to the 12th of July we’ll have flags flying with the words King Billy saved the union,it would be even more intolerable than listening to Habbs pathetic sh*te.

    Also around this time we’ll have pleasure of Nigel Farage as well, another anti-independence thug, who will regale Scots with his “I’ll kick mmigrants out” routine, whilst his ex-head of UKIP in Scotland Lord Monckton keeps a low profile, after coining the phrase “Scottish subsidy junkie.”

    Watch out Edinburgh.

  166. Republicofscotland

    1 Sep, 2014 - 3:33 pm

    From today’s Financial Times:

    “Buyout groups Blackstone and Blue Water Energy are providing $500m to Siccar Point Energy, a new UK-focused oil company, in one of the largest ever private equity investments in North Sea oil.

    Investment in the UK North Sea reached a record level of £14.4bn last year, raising hopes that oil and gas production could start to pick up again after years of decline.

    ‘This is one of the most opportune times to buy assets in the North Sea,’ said Jonathan Roger, chief executive of Siccar Point. ‘The market is very buoyant.’”
    ——————————–

    What was it Alistair Darling said again about North sea oil running out in 2017.

  167. Republicofscotland

    1 Sep, 2014 - 3:41 pm

    I’m not Scottish either, in spite of my name. I’m from the centre of the known universe known as Manchester and I only moved to Leith last year, but I damn well have a vote and I will use it for Yes.
    —————-
    Ken
    ——-
    My wife has family from Manchester Chorlton, and they also want Scotland to become independent, and as I’m forever telling people independence isn’t about disliking anyone from England, Wales or NI its about self determination, through self governing, and most of all getting shot of Westminster, glad you’re yes.

  168. “Odds still 5/1 against.”

    Yes, driven by high value no bets south of the border, presumably made based on information from the MSM rather than gleaned on the ground. A classic case of one section of the betting fraternity having better information.

  169. Polls are becoming pointless except for the most general idea of opinions. Take ‘Yes’ and ‘No’ answers with a grain of salt.

    The ones to watch out for are ‘undecided’. That generally means ‘don’t care’ or ‘don’t know’. Then it’s ‘eenie minie mo’ at the ballot box.

  170. “What was it Alistair Darling said again about North sea oil running out in 2017.”

    I don’t know.

    Why don’t you find the quote and tell us?

  171. “Yes, driven by high value no bets south of the border, presumably made based on information from the MSM rather than gleaned on the ground. A classic case of one section of the betting fraternity having better information.”

    I’ve never seen a bookie riding a push bike.

  172. BrianFujisanWabi-sabi

    1 Sep, 2014 - 4:17 pm

    Nevermind

    i second Mary… Well said @ 10;24

    Mary cheers for the Jokes and Video.. i first seen The Hitler Take a couple of years ago the subject then was that he could not make it to Barrafest..ON the Isle of Barra..I made it tho :)

    More on ISIS -

    Damascene Conversions – Isis, Assad And The Bombing Of Iraq

    This time last year, Western corporate media were focused on a single, grave threat to human life and civilised values. An endless stream of atrocity claims – some real, some fabricated with ‘evidence’ posted on YouTube – depicted President Assad of Syria as the latest incarnation of Milosevic, Saddam Hussein, bin Laden, Gaddafi: namely, the Official Enemy to be targeted for destruction.

    Once again, ‘quality’ media generated a sense of inevitability – this Enemy was also so monstrous that the US-UK alliance had to ‘intervene’, to ‘act’. It later transpired that the plan was to ‘completely eradicate any military capabilities Assad had’.

    The massacre claims were part of a rolling propaganda barrage intended to clear a path through public opposition to an attack. It was a close copy of the 1991 Gulf War media campaign described by the late historian Howard Zinn:

    ‘The American population was bombarded the way the Iraqi population was bombarded. It was a war against us, a war of lies and disinformation and omission of history. That kind of war, overwhelming and devastating, waged here in the US while the Gulf War was waged over there.’ (Zinn, Power, History and Warfare, Open Magazine Pamphlet Series, No. 8, 1991, p.12)

    This summer, the Assad atrocity stories splashed across newspaper front pages and TV broadcasts for so long have mysteriously dried up. If the BBC website looked like this last year, it now looks like this, this and this. The Independent published an article with a title that would have been unthinkable even a few months ago:

    ‘Putin may have been right about Syria all along – Many cautioned against the earlier insistence of the Obama administration that Assad must go’

    Has the man universally loathed and reviled by corporate commentators undergone an appropriately Damascene conversion? A more prosaic explanation was supplied by the Financial Times:

    ‘US and allies must join Assad to defeat Isis [Islamic State], warns British MP’ (Sam Jones, Financial Times, August 21, 2014)

    The MP in question, Sir Malcolm Rifkind – chairman of parliament’s intelligence and security committee, and a former foreign secretary – declared:

    ‘”[Isis] need to be eliminated and we should not be squeamish about how we do it… Sometimes you have to develop relationships with people who are extremely nasty in order to get rid of people who are even nastier.”‘

    One year ago, Rifkind called for a ‘military strike’ on Syria of ‘a significant kind’:

    ‘If we don’t make that effort to punish and deter, then these actions will indeed continue.’

    Full Piece @

    http://medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/2014/773-damascene-conversions.html

  173. Republicofscotland

    1 Sep, 2014 - 4:21 pm

    I see No campaign leaflets are coming out with Postal Votes, surely this must be illegal, the Electoral Commission are complicit on this issue,they do have form though anyone who read their recent doorstep leaflets, couldn’t have failed to notice a half page and two lines on the benefits of independence, whilst a full page and multiple lines given on the benefits of the union.

  174. Craig’s speeches must be going down well judged from the hostility above. Congratulations

  175. I think I’ve spotted another troll.

  176. Republicofscotland

    1 Sep, 2014 - 5:05 pm

    Saudi king: Islamic State will reach ‘Europe in a month and America in another month’

    —————-
    Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah has a stark warning to America: The Islamic State’s terror will visit American shores in one month if it is not confronted in Syria and Iraq.

    “If we ignore them, I am sure they will reach Europe in a month and America in another month,” the king said Saturday, Agence France Presse reported. His comments came while he was speaking at ceremony for new ambassadors.
    ———————–
    Terrorism knows no border and its danger could affect several countries outside the Middle East. It is no secret to you, what they have done and what they have yet to do. I ask you to transmit this message to your leaders: ‘Fight terrorism with force, reason and speed.’”

    King Abdullah’s warning for the western world comes one day after a government watchdog reported that a federal bulletin released to law enforcement agencies has warned that the Islamic State group, also known by the acronyms ISIL and ISIS, has infiltrated Mexico’s city of Ciudad Juarez for an imminent attack on America.

    —————
    Is this a veiled threat from, one of the leaders of the axis of evil? will there be a false flag attack on an EU or US city soon, by a zionist backed bomb cell?

  177. Have to agree about the Electoral Commission, have received a few weeks back a booklet from them containing pages which seemed to be paid-for advertising by the No campaign, which I was flabbergasted and outraged to find there, from this avowedly ‘neutral’ organisation. And these are the people responsible for fair conduct of the referendum.

    Have to agree with Fred about the Police, though this militarisation has been a UK wide phenomemon, which I can only hope Independence will reverse, voting No is a certain vote for continuation of the same. Only last week whilst at my dinner the police burst into and searched the house, on the pretext that a 999 call had been made from my number, no-one had tried to use the phone all day, and the phone has been mostly inoperative since June, which BT (British Telecom) are well aware of having admitted a “copper fault” and refuse to fix, with a string of excuses. It seems almost a repeat of an incident in 2008, an anonymous alleagation of assault, which was patently false and malicious, and which was subsequently dropped, but the charges of breach of the peace and resisting arrest, simply for protesting my innocence and not co-operating, were not. My complaints about a series of violent assault against me conducted by half a dozen or more officers, in the police station, including hoisting me in the air and throwing me onto a stone floor, and tearng my earlobe almost off, I was pressured to drop. From that day my previously high opinion of the police, as there for the protection of all, having had little contact with them, underwent a complete reversal, and there is much that needs rooted out.

    Independence will not be utopia, but Independence is the only option for real change.

  178. Why the silence over the assault on George Galloway?

    By Peter Oborne
    September 1st, 2014

    Last Friday evening a British MP suffered a vicious assault on a London street. George Galloway, a 61-year-old, six-times-elected politician was beaten up for three minutes by a brutal and determined assailant in broad daylight, and was admitted to hospital as a result.

    There are grounds for assuming that the motive was political, and the assault occurred due to Galloway�s criticism of Israeli actions in the Middle East. The assailant was reportedly shouting comparing Galloway to Hitler, and shouting about the Holocaust.

    There is something very disturbing about the response to this event by the mainstream British political establishment. Mr Galloway has received no public message of sympathy from a single MP from any party, nothing from Speaker Bercow, from the Prime Minister, or from any of the other elected political leader.

    I know that Mr Galloway is a very controversial figure and that many people, for honourable reasons, disagree very strongly with his views. Yet that is irrelevant. The attack on Mr Galloway is beyond doubt an attack on British democracy itself.

    It is a basic principle of our political culture that men and women must be able to speak up for the causes they believe in without threats or violent reappraisal. This attack on Mr Galloway comes just days after the Labour MP Jim Murphy was forced to abandon campaigning in Scotland for the No campaign. He cited intimidation and was advised by police to end his campaign.

    Had an MP been attacked by some pro-Palestinian fanatic for his support of Israel, I guess there would have been a national outcry and rightly so. Why then the silence from the mainstream establishment following this latest outrageous assault on a British politician?

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100284716/why-the-silence-over-the-assault-on-george-galloway/

    ~~~~~

    Latest news

    1 September 2014 Last updated at 15:48

    Man denies assaulting MP Galloway

    A 39-year-old man has pleaded not guilty to assaulting MP George Galloway in a London street.

    Neil Masterson, of Campden Hill, Notting Hill, denies assaulting the Respect MP for Bradford West while Mr Galloway was posing for pictures in nearby Golborne Road on Friday.

    The MP is believed to have sustained broken ribs and bruises to his head.

    Mr Masterson appeared at Hammersmith Magistrates’ Court and denied religiously aggravated assault.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-29018884

    ~~~~

    Nuff said. It will probably be a caution unlike the sentence for dozens of kettled Palestinian protesters who were jailed by the Isleworth court. The protest took place in 2009 outside the Israeli embassy following the Cast Lead Massacre. The JC had to throw in some anti Muslim stuff in their report.

    http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/33638/abu-hamzas-son-jailed-riot

  179. A Habbabkuk free day…… so far.

    Charles Crawford is at the IAEA today. Presumably in Vienna where their HQ is based.
    https://twitter.com/CharlesCrawford/status/506374144091770880

    Quod est demonstrandum. !?? ;)

  180. Craig, it was great meeting you in Dundee on Saturday. A very nice surprise in a day when we too were harassed by the Dundee City Council. I don’t know if Duncan told you but we were approached by two council aparatchiks who told us when we were by the Desperate Dan statue and told to move. We enquired as to the legal basis of this order, some bylaw perhaps and were met with silence. They then flounced off saying they would call the polis.

    They must have done so as about 30min two unenthusiastic polis persons duly turned up. I informed them of the previous conversation (after confirming there was nobody ‘in charge’) and asked if they knew of any lawful reason why we could not campaign in the public street during the regulated period of an official election campaign. They either knew of none or were undecided since they did not arrest us. The guy did nod in agreement when I pointed out we were not causing an obstruction.

    Before they all came back though we had to decamp anyway down to the penguins, I took one end of the table, a panda the other and we proceeded through the town causing a minor moving obstruction. Which is where you found us.

    So it seems Dundee Council aparatchiks were on ‘harass Yes voters’ duty on Saturday generally. Shame on them.

    Pictures of me remonstrating with the polis are here:
    https://www.facebook.com/RadicalIndependenceDundee/photos/a.501724656540297.1073741825.464182743627822/751914084854685/?type=1&permPage=1

    I’m the guy in the red shirt.

    What is strange is that the council is SNP controlled. Though both these incidents involved council officials not councillors.

    Regardless when officialdom pre-emptorally tells you to do or not do something it is important for the sake of democracy and the proper rule of law that they identify the legal basis of this order. Not to do this will embolden them to act arbitrarily and illegally. We withstood these two attempts to prevent us engaging in legal political activity by demanding to know the legal basis of the order to move.

  181. BrianFujisanWabi-sabi

    1 Sep, 2014 - 5:40 pm

    Mary

    was just reading that on GG over on Medialens -

    There is something very disturbing about the response to this event by the mainstream British political establishment. Mr Galloway has received no public message of sympathy from a single MP from any party, nothing from Speaker Bercow, from the Prime Minister, or from any of the other elected political leader.

    Something here reminds me of the Colourful, Carefree Dress codes of the Good people at Doune The Rabbit Hole – A far cry from the Pinstripe suits.

    Muscleguy

    Well Done Man, standing up to them.. Hat Tip

    ” Regardless when officialdom pre-emptorally tells you to do or not do something it is important for the sake of democracy and the proper rule of law that they identify the legal basis of this order. Not to do this will embolden them to act arbitrarily and illegally. We withstood these two attempts to prevent us engaging in legal political activity by demanding to know the legal basis of the order to move.”

  182. US Zionists raising money online for man charged with assault

    1 September 2014 – 12:49pm Updated | posted by James Doleman | 0 comments

    Online crowdfunding bid made to pay legal bills of man charged with George Galloway assault

    An online crowdfunding drive has been launched to pay the legal bills of a man accused of assaulting MP George Galloway and another man last Friday evening.

    Neil Masterson, 39, a former manager at the BBC, pleaded not guilty at Hammersmith magistrates court this afternoon over two charges of “religiously aggravated assault” against the MP and a bystander who were attacked in North London.

    The prosecution told the court that Galloway was having a photo taken with the other man when Masterson approached, knocking the MP to the ground. He then carried out what was described as a “frenzied attack” punching Galloway around ten times while shouting obscenities, before fleeing, according to the prosecution.

    Masterson was later arrested on a bus while wearing an Israeli Defence Force T-shirt, the court was told.

    The fundraising page on website [REMOVED] was launched yesterday and has already received donations of over $3,500 from 82 people towards its target of $10,000.

    The organiser, who gives her name as ‘Teresa Israel’ and her location as Kentucky USA, said that while she doesn’t support violence, she respected the accused for “allegedly standing up for Israel.”

    Defence counsel for Masterson told the court his client admitted his “involvement in the incident” but denied it was religiously motivated.

    The court was told that the attack was motivated by Galloway’s views on the Israel Palestinian conflict which the defendant believed were “anti-Semitic.” The three magistrates decided they did not have sufficient sentencing powers to deal with the case and it was referred to the Crown court.

    Masterson, who the court was told has volunteered to do work for the Conservative party, was denied bail and remanded in custody until 15 September.

    http://www. thedrum.com/news/2014/09/01/online-crowdfunding-bid-made-pay-legal-bills-man-charged-george-galloway-assault

    Note the name of the former employer, ZBC.

  183. Out of identical moulds. No wonder they all say the same and sound the same.

    John Ryley

    Head of Sky News at BSkyB
    United Kingdom Broadcast Media

    Current HEAD OF SKY NEWS at BSkyB
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  184. BrianFujisanWabi-sabi

    1 Sep, 2014 - 6:23 pm

    Mary

    Couldn’t make it up…Shocking, and disgusting.

    I’m leaving the Barrafest video for ya, over at Squonk :)

  185. BrianFujisanWabi-sabi

    1 Sep, 2014 - 6:25 pm

    Opps

    the above was meant Regarding the crowdfunding for the wee shit that beat up GG.

  186. Hi Craig; someone may have already posted,but it turns out that our BT lady is a YES voter.See Glasgow Herald’s article online. Roflol.

  187. Republicofscotland

    1 Sep, 2014 - 6:44 pm

    A Habbabkuk free day…… so far.
    ———————–

    With a bit of luck Mary the Jihadist’s will have gotten him.
    ————-
    Re George Galloway, no doubt his assailant is a paid, puppet, as for not much mention in the press of his tributes from fellow MP’s, they only laud him when he’s spouting his anti-independence rhetoric.

  188. After the UK bombed Libya and Gaddafi was supposedly killed the Telegraph began to brag about how well Cameron had lied about the number of UK boots that had been on the ground running into several thousand. I’ve tried googling it but nothing comes up so perhaps the FCO asked for the boasts to be removed.

    The bombs total was 800 tons. If one quarter ton bomb had knocked down 10 blocks of flats, each one housing 30 families of 6 people, (1800 people) and only 10% of the other 3200 bombs hit a highly populated target, then 576000 people would have been killed.

    I believe the UK genocide machine would have been a lot more efficient than this estimate and the destruction of the Libyan state infrastructure would have led to at least an equal number of terrorist deaths.

    The aim of the Arab Spring has so far been to crush the living daylights out of practising Sunni Muslims and to replace Civilisation with rabid dogs of hell, jihadist rapist genocidal madmen from the prisons of the Arab world.

    Obviously Cameron and Hague should have their passports removed, by their own criteria, so that they have nowhere to claim asylum other than the Terror State known as IS which they and their genocidal Zionist friends have set up to terrorise the Muslim world.

    If they asked a ransom for their release, nobody would donate more than 1 pence for their safe return to the UK. There is nothing cheaper, Al Milliner, than a free lift in a Rolls.

  189. Republicofscotland

    1 Sep, 2014 - 6:50 pm

    Well spotted Mary in the DRUM, Galloway’s assailant, Masterson was wearing an Israeli Defence Force T-shirt, no doubt the Hasbara troll Habb will be contributing to his crowd funded defence.

    As much as I detest Galloway, I detest that lot more.

  190. “Have to agree with Fred about the Police, though this militarisation has been a UK wide phenomemon, which I can only hope Independence will reverse, voting No is a certain vote for continuation of the same.”

    Policing is a devolved issue. Westminster has zero control over the police in Scotland. The police in England and Wales have not been armed.

  191. Ring any bells? George Orwell’s 1984

    “On the sixth day of Hate Week, after the processions, the speeches, the shouting, the singing, the banners, the posters, the films, the waxworks, the rolling of drums and squealing of trumpets, the tramp of marching feet, the grinding of the caterpillars of tanks, the roar of massed planes, the booming of guns – after six days of this, when the great orgasm was quivering to its climax and the general hatred of Eurasia had boiled up into such delirium that if the crowd could have got their hands on the 2,000 Eurasian war-criminals who were to be publicly hanged on the last day of the proceedings, they would unquestionably have torn them to pieces – at just this moment it had been announced that Oceania was not after all at war with Eurasia. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Eurasia was an ally. There was, of course, no admission that any change had taken place. Merely it became known, with extreme suddenness and everywhere at once, that Eastasia and not Eurasia was the enemy.”

    ~~

    The latest piece from the Medialens editors.

    Damascene Conversions – Isis, Assad And The Bombing Of Iraq
    1 September 2014
    http://medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/2014/773-damascene-conversions.html

  192. “Have to agree about the Electoral Commission, have received a few weeks back a booklet from them containing pages which seemed to be paid-for advertising by the No campaign, which I was flabbergasted and outraged to find there, from this avowedly ‘neutral’ organisation. And these are the people responsible for fair conduct of the referendum.”

    Maybe if you read their statement all will be revealed. The booklet contains information from both side plus a joint statement from the UK and Scottish governments. All have to agree to the booklet before it is sent out.

    http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/i-am-a/journalist/electoral-commission-media-centre/news-releases-referendums/electoral-commission-publishes-its-information-booklet-for-the-scottish-independence-referendum

    HTH

  193. Republicofscotland

    1 Sep, 2014 - 7:06 pm

    Jerusalem (AFP) – Israel announced Sunday it will expropriate 400 hectares (988 acres) of Palestinian land in the occupied West Bank, angering the Palestinians and alarming Israeli peace campaigners.
    —————
    The move to seize the land, in the Bethlehem area in the south of the territory, is the biggest of its kind in three decades, Peace Now said.
    ——————-

    “On the instructions of the political echelon… 4,000 dunams at Gevaot (settlement) is declared as state land,” said the army department charged with administering civil affairs in occupied territory, laying down a 45-day period for any appeal.
    ——————

    It said the move stemmed from political decisions taken after the June killing of three Israeli teenagers snatched from a roadside in the same area, known to Israelis as the Gush Etzion settlement block.
    ——————
    They kill with impunity, they steal land with impunity, when is the genocide going to end.

  194. Republicofscotland

    1 Sep, 2014 - 7:29 pm

    On September 4 and 5, Britain will host a summit meeting of NATO heads of state. NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen will chair the proceedings.

    At issue is justifying the unjustifiable. It’s doing so based on Big Lies. It’s wrongfully accusing Russia of “illegal actions in Ukraine.”

    It’s suppressing polar opposite truths. It’s supporting Washington’s imperial agenda. It’s presenting a unified anti-Russian front.

    It’s deploying thousands of combat-ready forces closer to Russia’s border. It’s “sustain(ing) a robust (Eastern European) presence…”

    It’s risking the unthinkable. It’s risking open East/West confrontation. it’s risking global war.

    It’s risking the use of nuclear weapons able to extinguish life on earth. If enacted, Senate bill 2277: Russian Aggression Prevention Act (RAPA) increases the possibility.

    It’s called “(a) bill to prevent Russian aggression toward Ukraine and other sovereign states in Europe and Eurasia, and for other purposes.”

    It’s madness. It wrongfully considers Russia an existential threat. It barely stops short of declaring war.

    It provides “major non-NATO ally status for Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova for purposes of the transfer or possible transfer of defense articles or defense services.”

    It effectively incorporates these countries into NATO. It makes its killing machine more formidable. It lets Washington establish bases on Russia’s borders.

    Wrongfully accusing Moscow of invading Ukraine provides added justification for challenging Russia politically, economically and belligerently.
    ==============================

    This is a frightening scenario, which could lead to all out open war, I’m utterly disgusted by the actions of Washington, Westminster, NATO, and its other axis of evil allies.

  195. I never noticed any Yes material (in the Electoral Commision booklet), which was torn up and thrown out immediately, what must have neen the Yes material, must have been cunningly disguised as simple facts and common-sense, and seemed as impartial as the rest of it. The No material included was recognisable dishonest blatant nonsense. Such a booklet should only have been about the process and mechanism of registering and voting, inclusion of material from either side was neither welcome or desirable.

  196. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    1 Sep, 2014 - 8:03 pm

    NeverHadAMind

    “Scotland woul;d do well in keeping out of NATO and joining in with the non aligned such as Norway.”
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    How strange – I had the impression that Norway, far from being non-aligned, was a founder member of NATO (1949) and is still a member.

    Dunce!

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