The 9/11 Post 11807


Having complained of people posting off topic, it seems a reasonable solution to give an opportunity for people to discuss the topics I am banning from other threads – of which 9/11 seems the most popular.

I do not believe that the US government, or any of its agencies, were responsible for 9/11. It would just need too many people to be involved. Someone would have objected. There are some strange and dangerous people in America, but not in sufficient concentration for this one. They couldn’t even keep Watergate quiet, and that was a small group. Any group I can think of – even Blackwater – would contain operatives with scruples about blowing up New York. They may be sadly ready to kill people in poor countries, but Americans en masse? Somebody would say it wasn’t a good idea.

I asked a friend in the construction industry what it would take to demolish the twin towers. He replied nine months, 80 men, and 12 miles of cabling. The notion that a small team at night could plant sufficient explosives embedded at key points, is laughable.

The forces of the aircraft impacts must have been amazingly high. I have no difficulty imagining they would bring down the building. As for WTC 7, again the kinetic energy of the collapse of the twin towers must be immense.

I admit to a private speculation about WTC7. Unfortunately in construction it is extremely common for contractors not to fix or install properly all the expensive girders, ties and rebar that are supposed to be enclosed in the concrete. Supervising contractors and municipal inspectors can be corrupt. I recall vividly that in London some years ago a tragedy occurred when a simple gas oven explosion brought down the whole side of a tower block.

The inquiry found that the building contractor had simply omitted the ties that bound the girders at the corners, all encased in concrete. If a gas oven had not blown up, nobody would have found out. Buildings I strongly suspect are very often not as strong as they are supposed to be, with contractors skimping on apparently redundant protection. The sort of sordid thing you might not want too deeply investigated in the event of a national tragedy.

Precisely what happened at the Pentagon I am less sure. There is not the conclusive film and photographic evidence that there is for New York. I am particularly puzzled by the much more skilled feat of flying that would be required to hit a building virtually at ground level, in an urban area, after a lamppost clipping route – very hard to see how a non-professional pilot did that. But I can think of a number of possible scenarios where the official explanation is not quite the whole truth on the Pentagon, but which do not necessitate a belief that the US government or Dick Cheney was behind the attack.

In my view the real scandal of 9/11 was that it was blowback – the product of a malignant terrorist agency whose origins lay in CIA funding and provision. Also blowback in a more general sense that it was spawned in the nasty theocratic dictatorship of Saudi Arabia which is so close to the US and to the Bush dynasty in particular. As with almost all terrorist activity, I do not rule out any point on the whole spectrum of surveillance, penetration and agent provocateur activity by any number of possible actors.

But was 9/11 false flag and controlled demolition? No, I think not.

(Now I have given full opportunity to discuss 9/11 here, any further references on other threads will be instantly deleted).


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  • Paul Barbara

    Latest from A&E:
    ‘Five weeks from tomorrow, on May 21, we will be at the annual business meeting of the American Institute of Architects (AIA) advocating for the passage of Resolution 16-3, which calls upon the AIA to support a new WTC 7 investigation.

    This resolution — which will be read by at least 1,000 AIA members — goes much further than last year’s resolution. It presents over three pages of evidence related to the destruction of WTC 7 as the basis for supporting a new investigation. I invite you to read the powerful language we’ve put forward.
    http://www.ae911truth.org/images/PDFs/AIA_Resolution_16-3.pdf

    We’re also going much further than last year in our preparation for the business meeting. The first time around we didn’t know what to expect, so we were outnumbered and overpowered. This year we’ll have many AIA members ready to speak in support of the resolution.’

    Also Richard Gage will be speaking at London’s Bloomsbury Baptist Church on 7th May; what a brilliant opportunity for all those pseudo-Architects and Engineers to attend and inform him just how wrong he and all the other 2,500+ Architects and Engineers are, and explain WHY they are wrong, and you are right! See you there???
    I’ll post full details of talk when I have them shortly.

    • Rob Royston

      If, as repeated in the resolution, the BBC reported the collapse of Building 7 a full 23 minutes before it happened then the BBC had fore-knowledge of what was to happen, They must have been conspirators in the events of that day.
      Our government demands that we pay license fees to what can only be described as the tools of a terrorist organisation. Why has this issue not been raised in Parliament? Are the MP’s all complicit?

      • mog

        Rob,
        I don’t think we can conclude that there were conspirators within the BBC, although there maybe (NB ‘Saving Syria’s Children’).
        Broadcast media have sources, some close to government/ the state who’s pronouncements they often repeat without much scrutiny. It is at least as likely that the foreknowledge that 7 was coming down was circulating on a news wire and was picked up by the BBC among others, having originated in some murky depth where the deep state meets the mediaverse.

    • Clark

      At approximately 2:00 pm, firefighters noticed a bulge in the southwest corner of 7 World Trade Center between the 10th and 13th floors, a sign that the building was unstable and might collapse.[44] During the afternoon, firefighters also heard creaking sounds coming from the building.[45] Around 3:30 pm, FDNY Chief Daniel A. Nigro decided to halt rescue operations, surface removal, and searches along the surface of the debris near 7 World Trade Center and evacuate the area due to concerns for the safety of personnel.[46]

      44 – “WTC: This Is Their Story, Interview with Chief Peter Hayden”. Firehouse.com. September 9, 2002. Archived from the original on March 6, 2011. Retrieved March 3, 2011.
      45 – “WTC: This Is Their Story, Interview with Captain Chris Boyle”. Firehouse.com. August 2002. Archived from the original on April 10, 2011. Retrieved March 3, 2011.
      46 – “Oral Histories From Sept. 11 – Interview with Chief Daniel Nigro”. The New York Times. October 24, 2001. Retrieved June 28, 2007.

      Building 7’s collapse was anticipated by the Fire Department, hours before the BBC report. You’d have to argue that a collapse that the Fire Department were expecting didn’t actually happen because a deliberate demolition that the BBC knew to be scheduled was set off before there was time. Looks like a long, steep climb to me.

      What happened to building 7 was dead weird. Spooky. I don’t know what the implications are and they don’t appear to be obvious.

  • Clark

    C15 fwl, thanks. I haven’t been back much since the new WordPress Theme; I can read the text OK but my overall impression of the page is cloudy or foggy.

  • Clark

    Paul Barbara, I am weary, so forgive me, but you seem to argue that collapses of dodgy buildings, assorted terrorism, and meltdown of ill-maintained forty year old nuclear power reactors hit by a tsunami would all have been fine if it wasn’t for Israel…

    Sorry, this is just scapegoating. Sorry, I should go through point by point, but I think I’ll just be going. Sorry.

    • lysias

      To the extent that Israel was involved, it was because it was doing the bidding of the plutocrats who also control the U.S. government. Israel was a junior partner.

    • Clark

      Fwl, suppressing the degree of involvement of powerful Saudis in 9/11 has been ongoing for decades. Civil court cases were halted in London on the grounds of “US national security” – unheard of previously, clearly US political interference in the supposed independence of the UK legal system and therefore setting a very dangerous precedent.

      Since many 9/11 “Truth” theories attempt to paint Saudi Arabia out of the picture altogether, I do wonder about the motivation(s) behind some of the them. The US Bush family and the Saudi bin Laden family remain heavily inter-invested,

    • Clark

      lysias, there’s considerable evidence for Israeli foreknowledge of 9/11; the “dancing Israelis” obviously, but also various warnings, intelligence briefings to the US, Israeli intelligence surveillance of the alleged hijackers, possibly even Israeli bomb-plots on the same day, and of course Israel’s prime minister Netanyahu said the attacks were very good for Israel.

      I’m sure that there are powerful members within both the US and Israeli power structures who would have seen advantage in the success of the potential 9/11 attacks and therefore would have acted to thwart investigation.

    • Canexpat

      @Clark

      I am confused by your reply. You appear to admonish PB for his ‘scapegoating’ of Israel yet you acknowlege the arrest of Israeli nationals driving a truck full of explosives on George Washington bridge. Unfortunately for the Likudites, more and more evidence is emerging of a guiding Israeli hand behind the attacks. I am not contending that Mossad acted alone – indeed they required the willing/blackmailed cooperation of many treasonous and highly-placed U.S. actors – but it seems clear that the operation was run from Tel Aviv.

      The evidence is detailed in many places, but to my mind, the smoking guns include:

      Silverstein’s bizarre business decision to purchase a worthless WTC complex 6 months before the attacks.

      The documented ‘Israeli art students’ who were extremely busy in the US prior to the events in NYC including the bizarre art installation in the towers themselves.

      The PNAC signatories and their true agenda (see GWB and “Daddy, who are the Neocons”).

      The ability of the conspirators to arrange over twenty exercises that removed air cover from NYC and Washington, including one that simulated live hijackings and the use of the hijacked planes as missiles.

      The warning messages in Hebrew sent by Odigo.

      Barak ‘coincidentally’ being in a BBC World studio that morning and being the first to finger Bin Laden as the patsy.

      The ability of the perpetrators to keep all mention of Mossad agents’ activity on 9/11 out of the MSM.

      The extensive cover-up instituted by Chertov that included the quiet deportation of said Mossad operatives.

      The many links of leading figures in the cover-up and incident itself to Israeli intelligence.

      The close control exerted by Philip Zelikow on every aspect of the 9/11 Commission report.

      The above is a necessarily an incomplete list as they are so extensive. II have no doubt that the Saudis played a minor role, but this latest story is just a feeble attempt to do a ‘Mafia killed JFK’ fallback to prevent the exposure of the real culprits.

      I find it very interesting that Cameron chose ‘The Jews did 9/11’ as his example of an opinion that should be branded as belonging to a ‘Non-violent extremist’. I see this as an attempt to smear anyone who suggests that Israeli intelligence was behind the attacks as worthy of opprobrium. I do not believe ‘the Jews’ did 9/11, but I am certain that several highly-placed Zionist jews played an important role in its execution, as any open minded investigation of the facts would confirm.

      Having read Craig’s blog for many years now, I am convinced of your bona-fides and respect your opinion on many topics, but would ask you to consider the evidence available on the Israeli role and not be intimidated by the ‘anti-semetism’ canard that will inevitably be thrown up by Likudite apologists.

      • SourDove

        Canexpat: “The documented ‘Israeli art students’ who were extremely busy in the US prior to the events in NYC including the bizarre art installation in the towers themselves.”
        You can’t cite a link between the first group and the second, because there is none. Hanan Serfaty was not there, and gelitin are ethnically diverse Austrians. Jonathan Elinoff fabricated a link because he knew there was none.

    • Clark

      Canexpat, 12:01

      The documented ‘Israeli art students’ who were extremely busy in the US prior to the events in NYC including the bizarre art installation in the towers themselves.

      The artists doing the installation were from Berlin, weren’t they?

    • Clark

      Canexpat, it’s scapegoating because there’s no good reason to accuse Israel. I can think of no reason to suspect that Fukushima was anything other than what it appeared.

      Much of your list fails to implicate the Israeli government. Silverstein is not part of the Israeli authorities. The PNAC indeed got their “new Pearl Harbour” and consequently got to “rebuild America’s defenses”, but that’s the PNAC, not Israel. It’s true that Neocon and Israeli objectives often align. It certainly shouldn’t have been an Israeli authority that could schedule so many US military exercises for the same time.

      I think the problem here is that there has never been a proper investigation.

      • mog

        I think there is a danger of yielding to a common desire to be reductive and pinpoint a single entity as a perpetrator.

        The embedded nature of Zionist sympathies within the Israeli state, the neocon movement, and the anglo-American establishment in general is well known about and is arguably unmatched in those respects by any other trans national political movement. It is surely fair then to say that evidence relating to complicity, the cover up of the 911 evidence and the compromising of the investigations (often at least) points to individuals with strong Zionist sympathies. (conexpat’s list could be extended).

        I think though that the same could be said of fossil fuel or military-industrial interests. These things overlap in events like 911, and there may not have been a single originating point for the plot at all.

      • Canexpat

        Sorry Clark, it appears you are right about the art installation team in WTC, (although they hail from Vienna, not Berlin). Mea culpa. I obviously fell for a hoax in this instance, although with so much disinformation being peddled on the interwebs I am surprised that until now, I had not seen its deconstruction.

        I do not take issue with your contention that Silverstein is not part of the Israeli authorities, but the existance of ‘sayanim’ in the diaspora is well-attested fact and ‘doing something for Israel before you die’ is a theme that has been around for sixty-odd years. Indeed the power of AIPAC in the States is a testament to this tribal urge felt by many in the diaspora who identify as ‘Jewish’. The attempt to identify the different concepts of ‘Jewish’, Judaic and Zionist is apparent to even the most casual observer of those that attempt to defend the actions of the self-described ‘Jewish homeland’. Gilad Atzmon and Rabbi Shapiro are very clear that this muddling of concepts has been deliberate on the part of Israel’s defenders in the West.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXBuUqPndqg

        Allegedly Silverstein is a good friend of Netanyahu, (exchanging weekly telephone conversations with him apparently), and it would appear that ‘Lucky Larry’ is a committed Zionist, as is his business partner Frank Lowry. The fact that such an astute property magnate purchased an apparently worthless property 6 months before the events of September 2001 and insured it particularly against terrorist attack is at least worthy of serious questioning.

        The fact that an Israeli authority couldn’t have scheduled so many military exercises for one day, I agree entirely – they could not possibly have done so directly. I do contend however, that many senior positions were held by dual national Israelis such as Chertof and Dov Zacheim who are strongly linked to Israeli intelligence and I am sure that PNAC signatories such as Cheney had their own reasons for bringing about the Pearl Harbor event.

        As to the Israel/PNAC/Neocon connection, I think it is pretty well established that their interests do more than ‘often align’. Wesley Clark’s ‘7 countries in 5 years’ revelation, recent U.S. foreign policy and the Oded Yinon plan seem far too similar for coincidence.

        I realise it is a large time commitment, but Barbara Honnegger’s ‘Behind the Smoke Curtain’ is worth watching as she details many of the links to Israel.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sALa-E56Zms

        I agree entirely that the problem is that there has never been a proper investigation, but given the obvious control exerted by yet another alleged dual-national, Philip Zelikow, (a specialist in the creation of national myths as it happens), any connection to Israel was unlikely to emerge from the sham commission report. I have yet to see any US or Canadian MSM recap the truck full of explosives at George Washington bridge story in any of their coverage, and I doubt that the true story will ever be known fully.

        My suspicion is that the Saudis probably played a minor role – providing passports for example, although presumably the U.S. embassy was responsible for issuing visas. The fact that this storyline is being given attention now is in itself rather strange and I wonder if it is to deflect attention from the growing body of evidence that points to an LIkud/Neocon culpability.

        Finally, (and I realise I have probably bored you to tears by now), I wonder if the panic created amongst veteran Neocons recently by Trump’s success is due to his promise to open a new investigation.if elected.

        Thank you for responding to my witterings though.

  • Clark

    Paul, I’ll just write this… whatever Jennings describes, it’s nothing like controlled demolition. Please list the differences, but I know you won’t because you’re doing propaganda not investigation.

    As I remember it, Jennings describes his view of the WTC site twice. The first time, he’s describing from memory spontaneously. The second time, he’s reasoning, trying to answer the interviewer’s questions. In the first description he says something like, “you look one way and the building was there, look the other and the building was gone”.

    But look at the timing. Sigh. Sorry. I think the “explosion” under the stairs was almost certainly the rubble of the first collapse sweeping into the lobby where it probably killed people.

    Look, this is ridiculous:

    The Risk

    Potentially fatal consequences now await any fire crew engaged in extinguishing simple office fires. The collapse of WTC7 was so sudden and so swift, no firefighter could escape such disintegration in time to avoid certain burial within the debris.

    But all emergency workers were pulled back and Building 7 was cordoned off, precisely because of the risk of collapse!

    Sorry, I don’t want to argue in this manner.

    • Maxter

      Clark

      The official account of the collapse of building 7 was not due to damage from other collapsed buildings! It was due to “normal office fires’.

      And firefighters go into buildings to extinguish fires conduct rescues and protect buildings when there are such things as normal office fires that are ongoing!

      Stick to the official account and you won’t go far wrong.

    • Clark

      (sigh) WHO was it ordered emergency personnel away from Building 7 and had it cordoned off? And WHY did they do that?

    • Canexpat

      @mog

      Yes, I was aware of that story. The original DEA documents are illuminating. I now suspect that the false conflation of the known Israeli spy ring of ‘art students’, some of whom may well have been tasked with the baby-sitting of at least some of the ‘hijackers’, (including their entertainment on one of Abramoff’s floating casinos), with Gelatin or Gelitin the art collective that produced the ‘B-Thing’, was a deliberate attempt at seeding disinformation. This would seem to be consistent with an attempt to discredit both stories and I obviously fell hook, line and sinker for it. It has been suggested that the Israeli ‘art students’ were a deliberately clumsy ploy designed to distract U.S. counter-espionage forces from the real agents who were busy arranging the attack on the U.S. I have to say, some of the ‘in your face’ aspects of Israeli involvement, including the celebrating/filming Israeli nationals, the decoration of the Urban Moving Systems van and the high profile D.E.A. ‘art student’ ring does make me wonder what was really going on. Could real Israeli intelligence operatives really be so sloppy? Perhaps they were just supremely confident that the MSM and Chertoff would have their backs.

      The most damning evidence in my opinion is that it was only the Neocon operatives in key positions who were able to instigate a complete cover-up of the evidence, arrange drills to cover the use of government resources for the attack and control the Norad response (or lack thereof). I find it implausible that the Saudis, or more laughably someone in a cave in Afghanistan, could have arranged these key components. The finger of blame points towards Cheney, Rumsfeld and the PNAC Neocons with assistance from elements of the U.S. deep state. Snowden’s revelation that all NSA intercepts are passed unredacted to Israel also means that the potential for blackmail and bribery on the part of the Likudites is unlimited.

      • SourDove

        canexpat: “the decoration of the Urban Moving Systems van”
        This is also false. The van bore the name of the company, not an image of the towers.

  • fwl

    Indy and Zero Hedge running story that Saudis threaten to dump US Treasuries if Congress pass law opening up the possibility that Saudi may as a state be held responsible for 9/11. Haven’t seen this story elsewhere yet.

  • Clark

    Opps, I replied in the wrong place – mods please delete the duplicate!

    Fwl, suppressing the degree of involvement of powerful Saudis in 9/11 has been ongoing for decades. Civil court cases were halted in London on the grounds of “US national security” – unheard of previously, clearly US political interference in the supposed independence of the UK legal system and therefore setting a very dangerous precedent.

    Since many 9/11 “Truth” theories attempt to paint Saudi Arabia out of the picture altogether, I do wonder about the motivation(s) behind some of the them. The US Bush family and the Saudi bin Laden family remain heavily inter-invested,

    • fwl

      Saudi warning of economic fallout if Congress pass 9/11 Bill is the most emailed NYT story today. I shall have a look for the wording of the Bill.

      • fwl

        Bill is a cross party matter by Senators John Cornyn III Republican of Texas (popular with the oil men) and NY Democrat Chuck Schumer (opponent of Iran deal). supported by Cruz.

  • Clark

    Fwl, thanks. Is this to support Trump?

    I’ve no idea how the US could extricate itself from Saudi Arabia or vice-versa, so presumably money will ensure that this bill fails.

    • C15 fwl

      Maybe they will cut oil supply and price of oil rises keeping oil majors and frackers happy. Maybe it should be another country who should be more worried than Saudi? After all there was that weird case against Iran in NY. Who knows? Not me.

  • Paul Barbara

    Clark, I do hope you take up my suggestion if you are in striking distance of London on the 7th May, and tell Richard Gage and Niels Harrit just what ill-qualified buffoons they are with their crazy ideas, and set them straight with your explanations.
    Give them something to think about when they go back to the States and Denmark with their tails between their legs.
    We can all have a pint in the cheap pub opposite the Church, and you will see we are almost human; very few of us wear ‘tin-foil hats’, as most of us prefer portable Faraday cages; luckily the Church is quite spacious.

    • Kempe

      ” I do hope you take up my suggestion if you are in striking distance of London on the 7th May, and tell Richard Gage and Niels Harrit just what ill-qualified buffoons they are with their crazy ideas, and set them straight with your explanations. ”

      A complete waste of time as they wouldn’t listen. Clark would just find himself being dismissed as a paid government shill. It would be more fun to have supporters of other theories that AE911 don’t believe: mini-nukes, beam weapons, CGI planes etc come along and try and put their ideas over. After all they all claim to have incontrovertible evidence.

      • Paul Barbara

        These people give presentations to many qualified people (check A&E site to learn more; they have a big blitz coming shortly to the AIA Convention) and the lists of ‘believers’ is growing all the time – recently A&E topped the 2,500 mark.
        You’re idea of ‘fun’ is simply disruption; they put their knowledge before others, and presto the numbers keep growing. Clark etc. argue the A&E are a minority; sure they are, if you take the lack of joining as a sign they believe the official clap-trap; many haven’t looked into the subject, others don’t want to risk their jobs, reputations or perhaps their lives (Danny Jowenko stuck his neck out – died in a one-car crash, like Michael Hastings; both ploughed into a tree at high speed – typical ‘Boston Brakes’) but show me ONE website with 100 qualified A&E’s who support the ‘official conspiracy theory’.
        And show me ONE peer-reviewed presentation for the ‘Official Conspiracy Theory’!
        NIST and so won’t reveal their ‘computer programming’ which comes up with their boloney ‘explanations’, for Public Safety reasons!! Other information is withheld for ‘Reasons of National Security’. The A&E people show their methodology; their experiments can be reproduced by anyone, they don’t try to hide their data or how they came by it.

        • Kempe

          Well yes they are a minority and at less than half of one percent of the registered architects and engineers in the US one could say an insignificant minority but there are no checks on the petition so anyone could sign it and claim to be an engineer and it is open to ordinary members of the public from across the world. You don’t believe me check it for yourself.

          http://www.ae911truth.org/signatures/ae.html

          I’d like to see one peer reviewed paper for any of the numerous conspiracy theories. Just one.

          Danny Jowenko isn’t the only person to have stuck his neck out over 9/11 nor the most high profile so why was he singled out for assassination and not Richard Gage or Dr Griffin?

    • Clark

      Someone linked to a short video some time ago. A man claimed that the Twin Towers fell at free-fall acceleration, through the path of least resistance and into their own footprints. He angrily claimed that this proved demolition, and anyone arguing otherwise needed to see a psychiatrist.

      I believe this was Richard Gage, was it not?

      The Twin Towers collapsed at less than free-fall, the broad floors offering relatively low resistance, and made a huge untidy pile of wreckage. I don’t want to talk to anyone who accuses me of delusions for refusing to sheepishly accept his lies.

      • Kempe

        The twin towers clearly did not fall at free fall speed as debris falling from the buildings can clearly be seen overtaking the collapse.

        According to an article on AE911 WTC 7 actually fell at faster than free fall! Now there’s an achievement. According to one of their “engineers” it accelerated downward at 9.885 m/s/s. Acceleration due to gravity is 9.81 m//s/s. It would also be interesting to know how this person can claim to have calculated this figure with such accuracy. To three decimal places; ie to the nearest millimetre! Any sane scientist or engineer would realise the result was wrong and go and do the sums again.

      • Clark

        Kempe, I accept Chandler’s measurements, made from at least one video of the collapse of Building 7, of, I think, 2.4 or 2.5 seconds “indistinguishable from free-fall”. NIST accept that now, too.

        I’d like to see Chandler’s measurements repeated on known controlled demolitions – I suspect that they lag behind free-fall and that Building 7’s outer façade actually fell faster than free-fall due to the core falling first and dragging the façade down.

      • Clark

        …there’s always air resistance at least, so I want to see the acceleration rates for known controlled demolitions; they have to be less than g.

    • Clark

      Mog, sorry, that’s a really interesting link.

      Still, just my writing that will probably discourage others from reading it.

      • mog

        I doubt that your writing that will have much bearing on people reading it or not. Anyone who is seriously interested in the subject will be more than familiar with Ryan’s work already as he is one of the key whistle blowers and researchers on 911.

  • Clark

    I’ve been visiting this thread less because I dislike being treated partly as enemy, partly as idiot.

    I was glad to see the links and quotes on a recent thread about the forced confessions and the 9/11 Commission, and Springman’s complaints about the State Department ordering that visas should be issued to dodgy individuals from Saudi Arabia into the US, despite Springman’s objections to all relevant authorities. However, a shame to see these important, well documented facts, which need to be more widely known, having to share approval with unsupportable and in some cases fraudulent theories about HAARP, “chemtrails” and induced earthquakes.

    As for “Israel sabotaged the Fukushima nuclear power station”, I believe that when the plant was built, they actually lowered the level of the ground, by nearly four metre, I think, because that was cheaper than installing bigger pumps to circulate seawater for cooling. It was a disaster waiting to happen, as are hundreds of these huge reactors which will melt themselves unless steam can be held at 75 atmospheres pressure and kept circulating continuously. Remember, all the reactors automatically shut themselves down when the earthquake was detected – the control rods were inserted and the chain reactions were terminated – but such reactors still make enough heat to melt themselves for weeks after shutdown. The fuel cladding gets hot enough to evolve hydrogen from water. The Fukushima meltdowns and explosions are exactly what you’d expect such reactors to do if things went wrong, which is why millions of us have been campaigning against the damn things for decades. Ah but if it wasn’t for Israel… Are you serious?

    • Paul Barbara

      ‘..having to share approval with unsupportable and in some cases fraudulent theories about HAARP, “chemtrails” and induced earthquakes….’
      No one on here is trying to link the Twin Towers and Building 7 to any of these; though I suspect HAARP and ‘chemtrails’ could well have been used to direct Hurricane Erin away from the US coastline. That is my personal opinion, and is not shared by most 9/11 Truth campaigners.
      Show me any evidence Richard Gage ever said the Twin Towers fell at freefall speed; I don’t believe it. Someone may have, but anyone can say whatever they will.
      Nice get-out of a marvellous opportunity to question the great men themselves; perhaps they better than I can utterly crush your theories and ‘thoughts’ and ‘imaginings’? We’ll never know, because you opted out of the chance. Pity, I was looking forward to a chat after the event.

      By the way, what are the ‘fraudulent claims’ about HAARP, Chemtrails and induced earthquakes?
      It really would be useful if you gave some evidence of fraud. An obvious layman’s disbelief in HAARP causing earthquakes is the huge amount to energy released; but one should consider that a shout can trigger an avalanche; a tiny detonator can cause 1000 tons of TNT to explode; soldiers (or civilians) can cause a bridge to start to dangerously vibrate, if they march in step; a Rolls Royce that cost hundreds of thousands of pounds, with tremendous skills and resources used in it’s fabrication (to say nothing of R&D), can be brought to a stop with a pound of sugar in the petrol tank, or a few ounces of sand in the gearbox (for manuals) – or even by a drunk driver driving it over a cliff.

      Just because the majority of architects and engineers don’t question the government ‘narrative’, does not mean they support it, as I argued before. But remember, only a ‘tiny minority’ of people believed the earth rotated round the sun; they were laughed at, at best, and brutally persecuted, at worst, but now, that tiny minority have been proven right.

    • Paul Barbara

      Did you check the links that at least suggested the possibility Israelis could have placed mini-nukes in the reactors? And Israel had a motive – Japan’s support for Palestinian rights, and Japan’s offer to reprocess Iran’s nuclear fuel, which would have undercut the ‘they’re making a bomb’ claims.
      And claims Stuxnet was found in the computers; I don’t know the strength of those claims, but they certainly seem highly credible to me.

      Saturday 7th May to Sunday 15th May will be a ‘Week of Action’ for remembering the Nakba – the Palestinian ‘Catastrophe’. Israel forcibly expelled 750,000 Palestinians from their land in 1948.
      It will be instructive to see just how little the MSM report on it!

      And the Germans have thoughtfully supplied Israel with six diesel subs, which means they have a capability to launch nuclear tipped cruise missile at targets just about anywhere in the world – a clearly offensive potential.

  • Clark

    Sorry, I should have remembered before…

    Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth do indeed call specifically for reinvestigation into the use of explosives on 9/11. I’d consider supporting such a petition on the basis that Building 7’s collapse looked so unlike anything other than a controlled demolition that evidence of sabotage should be checked for.

    Someone linked to a long detailed article several years old about the argument with NIST about traces of explosives in the 9/11 dust. NIST have a point that verified a chain of custody is needed. I do think NIST should test their dust and publish their findings, but I can think of reasons they might not that don’t involve them covering up deliberate demolition.

  • Node

    Kempe,

    You’ve been defending what you call “the official narrative” since at least 2012 on this thread. To counter dissenters, you have expressed opinions on verinage demolition techniques, the chemistry of thermite, melting point of steel, legitimacy of A&E signatories, US air defences, architectural buoyancy, dimensional analysis of scale models, fine legal subtleties in the Rooke vs BBC TV licence case, Netanyahu’s schedule on that day, the psychology of conspiracy theorists, the detailed geography of that part of New York, and much more.

    You cannot claim to be uninformed, uninterested, or to have no opinion on the subject, yet you repeatedly refuse to answer me when I ask :

    “Kempe. Please tell us what YOU believed happened on 9/11. Do you accept the official explanation in its entirety? If not, where do you differ?”

    If you are here in good faith, it is not a difficult question. If we ‘conspiraloons’ have got it so wrong, please tell us what you believe actually DID happen.

  • Clark

    Paul, it’s not a “get out” and I resent this implication. It is on this thread that I have learned that “Truthers” will play unpleasant games and make unfair accusations at people who question their highly tenuous theories. I’ve been having great difficulty with my emotional state for a number of reasons not connected with this thread, but the thought of having to face that angry man in the video with his lies and domineering insults – I don’t want to do that, OK?

    The video I referred to is linked on this thread, sometime this year maybe a couple of months back. I was asked to watch it and I did; it contained old lies but no new argument. I think I remember it being Gage but if not then I apologise for that error. I looked for it to refer to in my reply but gave up after checking six pages of comments.

    • Paul Barbara

      I’m not playing games, unpleasant or otherwise. 9/11 is an obsession with me, as being the key to exposing the filthy swine who control this planet, courtesy of ‘Old Nick’.
      If our positions were reversed, I know I would want to go to confront the guys if I thought they were talking bunkum.
      But if you don’t fancy that, surely you could go anyway, just to listen to their presentation, see them in person to get a personal impression of them, and to listen to other peoples queries.
      I can assure you Richard Gage is not an aggressive man, and if you put a point of view or question to him, he will courteously reply.
      I have met him quite a few times in London and Canterbury (where I leafleted the two Universities, one of which he and Niels were giving a presentation in).
      I could introduce you to him in the pub after the event (he normally repairs to the pub with the organisers).

    • Paul Barbara

      Oh yes, just remembered – I also met him in Cambridge when I helped to leaflet that venue.

  • mog

    FURTHER ON SAUDI CONNECTIONS:
    The story of the 28 redacted pages that has simmered in the background for some years is now hitting the mainstream. I just listened to ‘PM’ on BBC radio 4 which replayed an extract from a recent CBS documentary that interviewed Bob Graham with his claims about Saudi involvement.
    It is tempting to read between the lines with co-incident timing of the promotion of this quite old story, now as Obama visits KSA and moves are made to allow prosecution of the Saudi regime for involvement. Things might be about to change radically in the relationship between the US and KSA (as a grab for the last oil ?).
    It is hard to imagine how a revelation of any Saudi complicity in the 911 plot can be limited and controlled in this age of internet media. Most inquiry is stopped merely by the taboo of so much as questioning the 911 commission account, so if this is sacrificed for political gain, then there is surely risk of ‘spillage’.
    The KSA is so closely tied to the US deep state and 911 it is begging for wider dissemination. ‘For every finger pointing at Saudi Arabia there are five pointing back at the USA’.
    Here are twenty points of interest to start with:
    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/09/saudi-ties-to-911.html

    • lysias

      If an incoming president like a Trump or Sanders wanted to discredit his predecessors along with the deep state, he would only have to reveal the truth about 9/11 (and hopefully also about the JFK assassination).

      • Paul Barbara

        I think Craig’s picture find of the Clinton’s and Trumps in a cosy situation (and knowing the Clinton’s predilections, it may go much deeper than great conviviality!) {see Craig’s ‘Choice? What Choice?’
        https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/04/the-illusion-of-choice/ Trump would do no such thing.
        And nor would Sanders, best of the bunch by far. For openers, he won’t get the nomination (due to massive inbuilt hurdles against upstarts) but also like any other politician, he dare not for the life of him (and his family) go anywhere the Truth on 9/11.
        As well as the Clinton/Trump love fest, the Clintons also had a similarly close friendship with the Bushes. It’s all rigged.

        • lysias

          The American people already doesn’t believe the Warren Commission fiction. Another such event with a new president would totally discredit the American government and system.

  • Paul Barbara

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  • Paul Barbara

    Achtung, all ‘Official Conspiracy Apologists’:

    9/11 – The Basic Questions – released for the 7th Anniversary of 9/11 on September 11th 2008

    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/9-11BasicQuestions.html

    1. Why didn’t jets intercept the airliners since they had numerous warnings of terrorist attacks?

    2. Why did Ashcroft stop flying commercial airlines, citing an unidentified “threat” in July 2001?

    3. Why did FEMA lie about their presence in New York on 9/11?

    4. Why didn’t the Secret Service hustle Dubya out of the classroom?

    5. Why did George H.W. Bush meet bin Laden’s brother on 9/11?

    6. Why did passengers or crewmembers on three of the flights all use the term boxcutters?

    7. Where are the flight recorders?

    8. Why were the FISA warrants discontinued?

    9. How did Bush see the first plane crash on live camera?

    10 Why was security meeting scheduled for 9/11 cancelled by WTC management on 9/10?

    11. How did they come up with the “culprits” so quickly?

    12. How did they find the terrorist’s cars at the airports so quickly?

    13. Why did Shrub dissolve the Bin Laden Task Force?

    14. Why the strange pattern of debris from Flight 93?

    15. How extensive was the relationship between the Taliban, the ISI and the CIA?

    16. What exactly was the role of Henry Kissinger at UNOCAL?

    17. When was it decided to cancel building a pipeline from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to Pakistan?

    18. Why did the FBI in 1996 close the files to investigate Osama bin Laden’s relatives in Washington?

    19. Why did .Bush stop inquiries into terrorist connections of the Bin Laden family in early 2001?

    20. Who made the decision to have John O’Neill stop investigating Al-qeada accounts?

    21. Who gave the decision to give him a security job at the World Trade Center?

    22. Did John O’Neill meet anyone of the FEMA in the night of September 10th?

    23. What about media reports that hijackers bought tickets for flights scheduled after Sept. 11?

    24. Why did none of the 19 hijackers appear on the passenger lists?

    25. Why would devout Muslims frequent bars, drink alcoholic beverages and leave their bibles?

    26. Why would the hijackers use credit cards and allow drivers licenses with photos to be zeroxed?

    27. Why did the hijackers force passengers to call relatives?

    28. How did the hijackers change the flight plan without law enforcement or the military try to stop them?

    29. How did a hijackers passport miraculously appear near the WTC? Who found it and what time?

    30. How could the FBI distinguish between “regular” Muslims and hijacker Muslims on those flights?

    31. Why was there not one “innocent” Muslim on board any of these flights?

    32. Did someone go through the passenger lists looking for Muslim names and label them as hijackers?

    MOHAMMED ATTA

    33. Did the Florida police provide information that Atta was searched because of 1) an expired Visa, 2) driving a car without a license, 3) because of an incident at Miami Airport?

    34. Why did Atta leave his bag at the airport and the employees didn’t put it on board?

    35. Who found his bag? How can we be sure it it was his bag?

    36. Why did Atta place a video “how to fly planes”, a uniform and his last will into his bag, knowing that he would commit suicide?

    37. Why did Atta leave his drivers license in a rental car?

    38. When did Atta train on a flight simulator?

    39. Did Atta leave the US while in training and then return?

    40. Why did Atta decide to study at Opa Locka, a famous hub of 6 Navy training bases and includes government partners like U.S. Coast Guard Air Station, Police (Miami-Dade) Aviation Unit?

    41. Why was Atta allowed to study since he was stopped by the police for driving without a license and also for violating his visa?

    THE BLACK BOXES AND CRASH VIDEO

    42. Why were the Black Boxes never recovered ?

    43. Why didn’t the FBI release the air traffic controller’s protocols?

    44. Why did the FBI not release the Flight Data Recorder info?

    THE HIJACKERS

    45. How did the FBI receive a tip from a passenger who boarded a different plane and reached his destination safely that he had a confrontation with two ME men at the Logan airport in Boston?

    46. Who tipped the FBI to storm the Westin Hotel in Boston on September 12th?

    47. Where did the photos of all 19 hijackers come from?

    48. How were all hijackers identified just 2 days after the attack?

    9/11 Related WRH Articles
    Rahm Emmanuel, former Clinton adviser, current congressman from Illinois, staunch supporter of Israel, and suspected by many of being “Mega”, the Mossad mole in the Clinton White House, has a brother, Ari Emmanuel, who just happens to be Michael Moore’s agent.

    Questions for Michael Moore
    “Fahrenheit 9/11” is a powerful antiwar statement and needs to be supported for that reason. However, I would like to ask Michael Moore a few questions regarding his implication that Saudi Arabia was behind 9-11.

    * The Part of the Story Michael Moore Missed
    Let’s take a look at the idea of Saudi Arabia as the perpetrator of 9-11. Why would they do it? What would they gain?

    9/11 – A Moment of Reflection
    Written shortly after the attacks.

    World Trade Center Attack: Unanswered Questions
    My take? Americans are not very bright. Americans don’t think. They accept what they are told. They don’t TEST what they are told.

    President Bush’s Visit to Booker Elementary School on 9/11
    Why was Bush allowed to attend the school? Why did he lie about seeing the first WTC impact at the school? Why did he stay in the school after being told of the second WTC impact? The video of his visit provides some answers.

    The WTC Collapses – An Audio/Video Analysis
    Where were the infernos? Why did people including firefighters report explosions before the WTC collapses? Why did the ground shake before the collapse of WTC 1? Why did the collapse of WTC 1 start from above the aircraft impact level? WTC 7 may provide some answers.

    * The 1993 WTC bombing was allowed to happen
    Law-enforcement officials knew terrorists were building a bomb to blow up the WTC, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives. An informer was to have helped build the bomb and supply fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor.
    * The Oklahoma City Bombing
    A trial run for 9/11?

    The Five Dancing Israelis Arrested on 9/11
    Why was a Mossad surveillance team dancing with joy as the WTC burned? Why did bomb sniffing dogs react to their van when they were arrested? Why was another Israeli van ‘packed with tonnes of explosives’ stopped in New York on 9/11? Why were these men merely deported? Why did one of the men arrested say on his return home ‘Our purpose was to document the event’?

    * Urban Moving Systems and Detained Israelis
    Inspection of the tractor-trailer’s contents revealed a load three-quarters full containing household items, including furniture and boxes. Among the items in the truck was a Sony video camera. Plymouth Police Officer David McCann reviewed the tape found inside the camera. The tape had video footage of Chicago with zoomed-in shots of the Sears Tower, according to police.
    * FBI Fury As Men With Nuke Plans, Valid Israeli Passports Escape
    The men were searched and questioned and the state officers discovered detailed plans and photographs of a nuclear power plant in Florida, along with box cutters-the weapons used in the September 11 attacks- and other equipment. The men, who appeared to be of Middle Eastern origin and held Israeli passports, were then interviewed by immigration officials.
    * The Israeli Spy Ring
    “Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It’s classified information.” — US official quoted in Carl Cameron’s Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring and its connections to 9/11.
    * Cover-Up Alleged in Probe of USS Liberty
    Evidence that Israel has previously attacked Americans with impunity.

    At Least 7 of the 9/11 Hijackers are Still Alive
    The FBI says there is no evidence to link the alleged 9/11 hijackers to the hijackings, so who really flew the planes?

    * The Fatal Flaw in the 9/11 Coverup
    After two and half years, with the whole world knowing that eight of the 19 names on the hijacker list are fraudulent, the FBI has made no attempt to substitute new names. And why is that? Because the identities of the hijackers were constructed with mostly stolen papers, for some of the patsies designed to take the heat. In any case, and whoever they were, there is no evidence they ever got on the planes.
    * Flight 77 Hijacker Hani Hanjour: 9/11 Pilot Extraordinaire
    How did Hani Hanjour, a pilot who could barely fly a Cessna, handle a Boeing 757 with the expertise of a fighter pilot?

    “Project Achilles” Finds 9/11 Cellphone Calls ‘Impossible’
    Reports of cellphone calls from terrified passengers and crew members were a crucial element of the ‘official version’ of the events of ‘9/11’, as they corroborated claims that all four planes were hijacked by Arab terrorists. If, as experiments indicate, the cellphone calls were not possible, the entire ‘official version’ of events is open to question.

    The 9/11 USAF Stand Down
    What happened to the USAF on 9/11?

    * The Smoke and Explosion on Flight 93
    A passenger reports hearing an explosion and seeing white smoke in the cabin of the aircraft while it is still flying. This directly contradicts the official story of the crash.

    The 9/11 Hijackings – An Inside Job?
    Marvin Bush was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. All 9/11 airports were serviced by one Israeli company.

    * The Pre-9/11 Shut Down of Arab Muslim Web Sites
    If you are going to frame someone, you have to make certain they cannot speak in their own defense.
    * 9/11 – Pure Coincidences?
    * FEMA were in New York the Night Before 9/11
    An internet rumor has been validated by former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, so why did FEMA deny being in New York prior to 9/11?
    * Foreign Currency Traders Profit from the WTC Collapses
    Shortly before fleeing the World Trade Center on September 11th, foreign currency managers of First Equity Enterprises made themselves richer by 100 million dollars.
    * 9/11 Inside Trades Lead to the CIA
    One wonders how much damning evidence is necessary to respond to what is now irrefutable proof that CIA knew about the attacks and did not stop them. Whatever our government is doing, whatever the CIA is doing, it is clearly NOT in the interests of the American people, especially those who died on September 11.

    9/11 – What did the government know, and when did it know it?
    Bush and company are struggling to reaffirm the official story, that the US was caught by surprise, and the same Air Force that was able to intercept Payne Stewart’s plane just couldn’t get off the ground while four hijacked planes wandered out to Ohio before heading back to hit their targets on the East Coast, and all this was the work of a tiny group of Arab fanatics. If you believe that, I have a watch to sell you.

    The Complete 9/11 Timeline
    Like his father, Bush tries to keep a daily diary of his thoughts and observations. That night, he dictated:

    “The Pearl Harbor of the 21st century took place today.” [Washington Post]

    * Pearl Harbor – The Mother of all Conspiracies
    “…everything that the Japanese were planning to do was known to the United States…”
    ARMY BOARD, 1944

    9/11 and Anthrax: Framing Arabs
    The letters with the Anthrax came from inside the United States. Congress got their Anthrax letters just in time for the vote on the disingenuously named USA Patriot Act (aka the anti-terror bill) which the terrorized Senators voted into law without bothering to read. How convenient for the bill’s sponsors that there was a terror attack on the Congress just when Congress was about to vote on the anti-terror bill.

    * The Hidden Anthrax Suspect
    Documents from the inquiry show that one unauthorized person who was observed entering the lab building at night was Langford’s predecessor, Lt. Col. Philip Zack, who at the time no longer worked at Fort Detrick. A surveillance camera recorded Zack being let in at 8:40 p.m. on Jan. 23, 1992, apparently by Dr. Marian Rippy, a lab pathologist and close friend of Zack’s, according to a report filed by a security guard.
    * The Great Anthrax Stock Swindle
    At the time this article was written the same amount of the Anthrax treatment Cipro which sold for $20 in India sold for $690 in the US.
    * The Mysterious Deaths of Top Microbiologists
    What were these scientists able to do? Maybe blow the whistle if an artificially created disease was about to be used in a manner those who created it did not approve of. Regardless of the exact reason, there does seem to be a clear pattern of targeted microbiologists, and paired with it, an obvious government disinterest in the matter. I leave it to you to figure out why.

    Is ‘Al Qaeda’ the Modern Incarnation of ‘Emmanuel Goldstein’?
    The US government needed a new enemy. PNAC needed a new Pearl Harbor. On 9/11 they both got their wishes. Complete coincidence?

    The Point of No Return
    As Bush himself said, you are either with him or against him, and unless you are actively against him and his war machine, then he wins by default. Unless you stop them now, sooner or later, Bush and the NeoCons will succeed in turning this nation into the 21st century version of Nazi Germany, powered by fanatics so afraid to look in a mirror that they will inflict any pain on any people, rather than do so.
    49. Why did all 19 names not appear on the passenger list 2 days after the hijacker list was released?

    50. Why do none of the names appear on the passenger lists UA and AA gave to CNN?

    51. How could the hijackers disable the defense systems?

    52. Why did the FBI ignore Bin Laden’s family, who left the United States without further investigation?

    53. What about the supposed hijackers who are still alive?

    54. Was there a reason to change the list of the original 19 hijackers?

    55. What happened to Ayub Ali Khan and Mohammed Jaweed Azmath, who have been in jail since September 2001, because of possession of box cutters on a train? Who gave the tip to arrest them?

    56. Why did it take 4 months before Ramsi Binalschibhs name was mentioned, since he was a good friend of Mohammad Atta and lived in his apartment in Hamburg?

    57. Why did it take 4 months until December 11 to charge Zacarias Moussaoui for the 9/11 attacks when his case was known worldwide for months, but not mentioned in the American media?

    58. Whatever happened with Lotfi Raissi, who was arrested in UK for teaching the terrorist pilots?

    59. What is the current status of the investigation of Mamoun Darkazanli Import-Export-Company in Hamburg and Al Taqwa Management Organisation in Lugano?

    60. Why was Richard Reid able to enter the Paris airport twice and who paid for his hotel?

    61. Who hired Zacarias Massoui to learn how to fly passenger jets in the United States?

    62. Why did the FBI or CIA fail to interrogate him between August and December 2001?

    BIN LADEN

    63. Did the CIA monitor Bin Laden in 1998 with the help of 15 Afghan agents, paid $1,000/ month?

    64. Where are these agents? Was Johnny “Mike” Spann one? Was John Walker Lindh one?

    65. Is an Afghan agent a member of the ISI? Is an Afghan agent working for Bin Laden?

    66. When was the first time Tenet mentioned the Al-Qaeda group to any member of the Senate?

    67. Why did the Pentagon release a new video version or translation of the Bin Laden Home video?

    68. Why it was released only 8 hours after translation by the German magazine MONITOR on December ?

    69. Why were the four translators prior US-Government workers?

    70. When was the Bin Laden Home Video found and who found it?

    71. Who found the video if Northern Alliance and US troops had not yet arrived in Kandahar or Jahalabad?

    72. Does the timestamp on the Bin Laden video indicate that it was found two weeks after it was produced?

    73. Why was the public not informed who found the video and when?

    74. Why according to MONITOR magazine, were the most controversial statements translated incorrectly?

    75. Why was the video released?

    76. Who gave the final decision to release it?

    77. Why is the Bin Laden video of June 2001 in which he praised the attack, available on the Internet?

    78. What about Bin Laden’s statements on Al-Jazeera in June 2001 about the bombing of USS Cole, which are similar to the statements on the November 2001 home video?

    79. Why did Bin Laden state in Umman Magazine in Sept. 2001, that he was not involved in the WTC?

    80. Is Bin Laden still on the payroll of the CIA or ISI?

    81. Did the Bin Laden Group Inc. help build ToraBora with the CIA?

    82. What was the purpose of the meeting with General Pervez Musharraf in May 2001?

    83. Why was a statement released that Al-Khalifa bin Laden, who is not the mother of Bin Laden, had a telephone call with Bin Laden on September 9, rather than Alia Ghanem, his mother? Why did Alia Ghanem say she did not believe he planned the attack?

    ANTHRAX AND MICROBIOLOGIST DEATHS

    100. What happened on September 18th, when an employee of Batelle Memorial Institute was involved in a so-called anthrax hoax on that day? Was he arrested?

    101. Why did the investigation of that case begin in December 2001?

    102. What was in the memo of Dr. Leonard Horowitz, a public health consumer advocate and author of “Death in the Air” on October 1, 2001, almost two weeks before the first anthrax letter was sent from Trenton to the American media building in Boca Raton?

    103.What about his letter of Nov. 13 in which he claimed that BAYER is behind the anthrax infections?

    104. Did US BioDefense laboratories send the anthrax-laced letters to get a new budget for research?

    105. What about the statement of former UN-weapons inspector of Iraq, Richard Spertzel, who told ABC, “…he knows only five scientists in the USA who would be in the situation to produce such a fine, highly developed spore material”?

    106. Why did it take 48 hours to inform Bob Stevens that he had anthrax?

    107. Why were envelopes never found near Bob Stevens, Amelie Lundgren and Mia Nguyen?

    108. How come Microsoft got a hoax anthrax letter from Malaysia on the same day that President Bush said Malaysia might be one of the next targets of the United States?

    109. Why did the FBI never investigate the case Don Wiley, a Bioscientist who disappeared 11/13/01?

    110. Why did the FBI begin to investigate after his body was found on December 22, 300 miles away? Was there an investigation at the military hydro plant where workers found him? Why did the media write different versions about how, when and where he was found? Why did the police report change 2 months later from suicide to an accident?

    111. What was the goal of Bioport in 1997?

    112.Did development of anti-anthrax vaccines begin in 1998?

    113.When did Bioport decide to produce anthrax vaccines?

    114. Was it before or after Sept. 1998 that Admiral Crowe was put in charge of investigations of the August 7, 1998 bombings of Embassy Nairobi and Embassy Dar Es Salaam?

    115. Did the schedule for developing anti-anthrax vaccines begin starting in 1998?

    116. When did the US Government ask Bayer for help in developing a vaccine?

    117. When did Bayer start sending the vaccines to the U.S.?

    118. When did Bayer double production of the vaccines?

    119. Was the death of Vladimir Pasechnik investigated? He was former director of the Institute of Ultra Pure Biochemical Preparations of the Soviet bio-warfare establishment Biopreparat in November 2001?

    120. How are the deaths of scientists Robert M. Schwartz, Dr. Benito Que and Set Van Nguyen explained since all occurred in the same month? Is Set van Nguyen related to the anthrax victim Mia Nguyen?

    121. What about the death of Nancy Sonnenfeld (FEMA-Wife)?

    122. Why was the NJ Division of Fish and Wildlife examining Anthrax in August 2000?

    123. Do any employees in Trenton have the same handwriting as printed on the Anthrax envelopes?

    124. Is it just a coincidence that the laboratory is also based in Trenton?

    125. Did the FBI ever ask Fort Detrick to examine anthrax spores?

    126. What about the list of 15-20 labs (maintained by Barbara Rosenzweig) who used Fort Detrick spores?

    127. Does the CIA have spores different from those at Fort Detrick?

    128. Why did Tommy Thompson, The Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, and other Bush cabinet members meet secretly (i.e. illegally) in Oct. 2001 with officials of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) to develop plans for their Emergency Preparedness Task Force?

    129. Why did he decide on October 25, 2001 to ask Congress for another $500 million to produce Acambis’s smallpox vaccine?

    130. Why did it take 4.5 hours until Jean Marie Malecki , Director Palm Beach County Health Department, picked up the phone for employees of the AMI-Building, Boca Raton. This is where editor Bob Stevens got anthrax. Why did she wait two days before she visited that building again?

    131. Did Walter Gilbert, Director Myriad Genetics ever get official permission from relatives of those killed at WTC to examine their DNA?

    FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES

    150. Why did General Mahmud Ahmad, former head of the ISI quit his position?

    151. Why did retaliation against the Taliban begin the day he stepped down?

    152. Who in the ISI paid $100.000 to Mohammad Atta?

    153. Why does Ahmad think that another secret service was involved in the WTC attack? Which Secret Service was he referring to? Did other ISI official’s believe that? Did officials of the CIA believe that? Did some officials of the Mossad believe that?

    154. What was the purpose of Ahmad’s visit to Washington on 9/11?

    155. Who told Russian Foreign Minister Ivanov to abort an air strike against Afghanistan in May 2000?

    156. Did Russian intelligence notify the CIA in 2001 that 25 terrorist pilots had been training for suicide missions, as reported in the Russian press?

    KISSINGER

    1. What did Kissinger mean that an “outside threat from beyond”, a “world government” and “individual rights” who are “willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted”, what you mentioned in 1991 on a Bilderberg Conference?

    2. What was his role at UNOCAL?

    3. What did he discuss at the Bilderberg meeting last year in May 2001?

    4. What was the purpose of his meeting with Moscow Mayor Yuri Luzhkov in July 2001?

    5. Why does he write in “Toward a New Diplomacy for the 21st Century” that America doesn’t need a Foreign Policy?

    6. When was the last time Henry Kissinger met US-Ambassador in Pakistan, Robert Oakley?

    THE PURCHASE OF AIRLINE PUT OPTIONS

    1. Is it true that the CIA is in possession of PROMIS software?

    2. What is the purpose of PROMIS?

    3. Did A.B. “Buzzy” Krongard, CIA, own any stocks of United Airlines, American Airlines, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, AXA Re (insurance) which owns 25% of American Airlines, and Munich Re.?

    4. What is his connection to Alex Brown, Deutsche Bank?

    5. Did he give any insider information about to George Tenet, CIA?

    6. Who was the investor who purchased 2,000 UAL put options between August and September 11, 2001?

    7. Did Deutsche Bank-Alex Brown own any stocks of UA, AA, Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, AXA Re (insurance) which owns 25% of American Airlines, and Munich Re?

    8. What about the 2,500 UA-contracts which were “split into 500 chunks each, directing each order to different U.S. exchanges around the country simultaneously.” on August 10, 2001?

    9. Did Deutsche purchase UAL options in August 2001?

    10. Why did DB-AB purchase 4,744 put options on United Air Lines stock as opposed to only 396 call s on September 6-7? What was the purpose of doing that?

    11. What is the connection to Wally Kromgaard?

    12. Did Deutsche Bank or Wally Kromgaard purchase 4,516 put options on American Airlines as compared to 748 call options on September 10?

    13. What was the reason of Mayo Shattuck III re-asssignment on September 15th?

    THE TALIBAN AND THE CARPET OF GOLD..

    1. When was the last time they met any representatives of the US-Government?

    2. What was the purpose of these meetings?

    3. Did the Taliban know Karl E. Inderfurth and State Department counterterrorism chief Michael Sheehan?

    4. Do they know which US-Representative said in February 2001: “Either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs”?

    5. When was the last time the Taliban was in touch with this representative?

    6. Did Abdul Haq, the former Mujahedin leader executed Sept 2001 by the Taliban, decide in Winter 2000 to attack the Taliban?

    7. Did production of opium in Afghanistan fall from 3276 tonnes in 2000 to 185 tonnes in 2001?

    GLOBAL HAWK TECHNOLOGY

    1. Was Global Hawk technology able to remotelycontrol unmanned planes in 1999 for 27 hours?

    2. Did Northrop-Grumman use Global Hawk technology in the war in Afghanistan since October 2001?

    3. What is the purpose of unmanned technology?

    4. Is Northrup in contact with any engineers of Boeing?

    5. Did Northrup install Global Hawk technology in a commercial airplane?

    CARRIER AND TROOP MOVEMENTS BEFORE SEPT 11

    1. Did two U.S. carrier battle groups arrive in the Gulf of Arabia just off the Pakistani coast before 9/11?

    2. Did 17,000 U.S. troops join more than 23,000 NATO troops in Egypt for Operation ‘Bright Star’ on 9/11? What was the purpose of both of these operations?

    BIOCHEMICAL WARFARE

    1. When did Tommy Franks learn that he would use Thermobarics in ToraBora?

    2. Does he know if it had been tested on December 12 in Nevada?

    3. Who told Franks that Bin Laden might hide in ToraBora?

    4. Is the main purpose of Thermobarics to destroy buried bio and chemical stocks?

    5. When was the first time Franks used Thermobarics? Was it before or after the announcement of the end of ABM Treaty on December 11?

    6. When did the US decide to use B61-11, the “nuclear version” of its “conventional” BLU-113 counterpart?

    7. Why has the NSA destroyed data collected on Americans or US companies since the Sept. 11 attacks?

    ABORTED ATTEMPTS TO GET BIN-LADEN

    1. Why did Clinton abort an attack on Bin Laden in October 1999?

    2. Who was responsible for that operation?

    3. Why was the operation put on hold?

    4. Why did Musharraf halt a covert operation to attack Bin Laden in October 1999?

    5. Why did the GOP in Congress stop almost every move Clinton made against terrorism? They refused to believe reports and pass necessary legislation. In 1996 Clinton proposed a very extensive anti-terrorism regulation.

    RICHARD REID

    1. Who hired Richard Reid to threaten a passenger plane in Paris?

    2. Who did he send an email to in Pakistan?

    3. Has he ever been in touch with the ISI or CIA?

    4. Did he know the difference between an explosive and a detonator?

    5. How many ounces did he have in his shoes?

    6. What size are his shoes?

    7. Who build or prepared his shoes?

    JOHN WALKER LINDH

    1. Has John Walker Lindh ever been in touch with the CIA?

    2. Did he ever work for the CIA?

    3. Who arrested him in 2001?

    4. Why didn’t he escape in the tumult to nearby Masar-e-Sharif?

    5. Who hired his lawyer, Richard Brohanan? Who paid his lawyer?

    6. Why didn’t he go to Guantanamo Bay?

    DICK CHENEY

    1. When did Cheney stop working for Halliburton?

    2. Is he still in possession of any Halliburton stock?

    3. Is he still in contact with Halliburton?

    4. Was Halliburton invited to an oil conference in May 2002?

    5. Does Cheney know when that meeting was planned?

    6. Did Cheney have influence concerning Halliburton contracts with the Pentagon?

    7. What exactly did Cheney decide to do on September 11th?

    8. Did he speak with an Air Force Commander or Lt. Gen. Charles F. Wald on that day?

    9. When did he inform the president about the hijacked airplanes on September 11?

    10. Who called the White House on September 11 at 9:30 AM about a possible threat?

    11. Why was no air security at the White House or the Pentagon at 9:30 AM?

    12. When and who gave the approval to evacuate the White House at 9:45 AM?

    13. What was the purpose of a meeting with Indian opposition leader Sonia Gandhi in June 2001 about a multimillion-dollar debt owed to Enron from a major energy project in Indian Power Plants?

    14. When was the last time Cheney spoke with anyone from ENRON?

    COLIN POWELL

    1. What was the role of Colin Powell?

    2. Who decided to give $43 million in aid to the Taliban regime in May 2001?

    3. Did he know that production of opium in Afghanistan fell from 3276 tonnes in 2000 to 185 in 2001?

    4. What was the purpose of his decision to treat the Taliban prisoners as War Prisoners? Is this decision in any way related to media reports 2 days earlier that Powell may have been involved in negotiations with Indian Power Plants?

    5. What was the purpose of his short trip to Latin America on September 11?

    6. Who decided that he fly to Latin America on that day?

    7. Why would someone threaten him in Afghanistan on January 17, 2002 as Newsweek reported?

    8. What was the purpose of Powell meeting with India’s foreign minister on April 6, 2001?

    9. Did Enron or Cheney ask Powell to help collect a $64 million debt on an Indian plant project?

    GEORGE H.W. BUSH

    1. When was the last time George H.W. Bush traveled to South Arabia on behalf of the Carlyle Group?

    2. What was the purpose of that meeting?

    THOMAS WHITE

    1. Is Thomas White still in contact with ENRON?

    2. Did his contact at anytime influence his decisions?

    3. Does he still own ENRON stocks?

    DELMART VREELAND

    1. Did Vreeland warn Canadian Intelligence in May 2001 about possible terrorist attacks on New York and the Pentagon?

    2. Did he place the warning in an envelope while in prison in Toronto, Canada?

    3. Where did he get his information?

    4. Whom did he give the envelope to?

    5. Why was he placed in jail?

    SAUDI-BINLADIN-GROUP.COM

    1.Was the domain created on September 11th, 2000?

    2. Who paid for that domain?

    3. Are they also owners of Iridium Satellites?

    4. When did they end contact with relatives of the Bush family?

    THE CARLYLE GROUP

    1. When was the last time George H.W. Bush traveled to Saudi Arabia on behalf of the privately owned Carlyle Group, the 11th largest defense contractor in the U.S.?

    2. What was the purpose of that meeting?

    3. When did he resign from Carlyle Group?

    4. Is he still in touch with any of their representatives?

    STEPHEN LANDER, Director MI5

    1. Did Lander monitor a phone conversation between Zacarias Moussaoui and Richard Reid in Dec. 2000?

    2. What did Lander tell representatives of the CIA about Zacarias Moussaoui?

    3. Why did he stop monitoring Djamel Beghal, member of Takfir-wal-Hijra (financed by Osama bin Laden) in August 2001?

    BIN LADEN IN DUBAI

    1. Did Bin Laden in July 2001 enter an American hospital in Dubai?

    2. Did he arrive on July 4, 2001 on a flight from Qetta, Pakistan to American Hospital?

    3. Was he at the hospital July 4-11, 2001?

    4. Did Bernard Koval, CEO of American Hospital, ever speak with Doctor Terry Callaway about that visit?

    5. Why did he change his statements about this story not being true and that he “asked around”?

    6. What is the difference between Continuous Ambulatory Peritoneal Dialysis and Continuous Cycling Peritoneal Dialysis?

    7. Did Koval know Larry Stevens?

    8. Can Koval explain why Richard Labeviere, author of “Terror Dollars” (about illegal Al-Qaeda accounts), wrote the story about Osama Bin Laden’s kidney operation?

    GEORGE W. BUSH

    1. What exactly happened on September 11 and at what time was President Bush informed?

    2. Why was President Bush scheduled to visit a school in Florida?

    3. Who scheduled the time of the visit?

    4. When exactly did Bush learn about the first crash into the WTC?

    5. How could he have seen that on TV?

    6. Why didn’t he interrupt his school meeting as soon as he learned of the first plane crash?

    7. Did Bush ever wonder how Bin Laden was able to hear the first plane crash live on the radio?

    8. Which radio station he was listening to?

    9. Can Bush explain how Bin Laden’s Home Video was found only two weeks after it was produced?

    10. Why did Bush decide to release Bin Laden’s Home Video?

    11. What is the purpose of the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation (WHISC) in Fort Benning, Georgia, where terrorists have been trained for undercover agents in South America? Bush stated “if any government sponsors the outlaws and killers of innocents, they have become outlaws and murderers themselves”. So what does he think about Fort Benning?

    12. What is the role of Zalmay Khalilzad (former UNOCAL) in the National Security Council ?

    13. What is the current role of Zalmay Khalilzad (former UNOCAL) in Afghanistan?

    14. When was Bush’s last contact with anyone from ENRON?

    15. Why was China admitted to the WTO on September 13 after 15 years of unsuccessful attempts?

    16. Why did Bush postpone the release of Ronald Reagan’s records?

    17. How does Bush feel about the need to investigate the CIA’s mistakes?

    18. Does Bush agree with senators John McCain, Joseph I. Lieberman, Porter J. Goss, former C.I.A. clandestine case officer and a Florida Republican, Richard C. Shelby and Ron Paul, US Congressman, who want an investigation and have said “Secret government is winning out over open government”?

    19. Why did Bush continue to sit in that classroom reading to children when he should have been conferring with his advisors?

    20. Why did Bush say that he and Card initially thought it was an accident involving a small plane?

    21. Given all the information sources available to the POTUS and his staff how could his people not have known the kind of plane involved?

    22. Why didn’t they know at this point, as did the FAA and NORAD, that aircraft were hijacked? The Batallion Chief in the 9/11 video was seen and heard asking for military backup immediately after the building was hit.

    23. How come the NYFD knew it was terrorism right away but the POTUS and his aides just calmly went about their business?

    TONY BLAIR

    1. Were 25,000 British troops and the largest British Armada since the Falkland Islands War, part of Operation ‘Essential Harvest’ pre-positioned in Oman, the closest point on the Arabian Peninsula to Pakistan before September 11, 2001?

    2. When did he begin to place SIS-Special Forces in Afghanistan? Why?

    THE SUN-SENTINEL

    1. Did Gloria Irish own unit 1504 at the Delray Racquet Club, 755 Dotterel?

    2. Did she rent that property to Hamza Alghamdi in August 2001?

    3. Why did the media not report about a connection of the Sun-Sentinel and the hijackers?

    4. Why did it first appear that the hijackers had something to do with the anthrax attacks?

    5. Why has this connection or coincidence never appeared in the media again?

    6. What was the connection between husband Michael Irish (SunSentinel) and Bob Stevens (who died from Anthrax)?

    WARNINGS

    1. When did Vladimir Putin warn the CIA about a possible terrorist attack and what was their reaction?

    2. What was the purpose of the meeting between Christina Rocca, director of Asian affairs at the State Department and the Taliban ambassador Mollah Abdul Salam Zaeef in Islamabad in August 2001?

    3. Why did she oversee the delivery of Stinger missiles in the 80s to Afghan mujaheddin?

    4. Did Walid Arkeh in Seminole County jail inform the FBI in August 2001 about an attack on America? What was the reaction of the FBI?

    5. Why did Dr. Jeffrey Starr, U.S. department of defense, visit Tajikistan in Jan 2001?

    6. When did Jean-Claude Cousseran, Director DGSE , French Secret Service inform the CIA about terrorist attacks on America? What was their reaction?

    7. What does he know about the monitoring of Djamel Beghal, member of Takfir-wal-Hijra (financed by Osama bin Laden) and Kamel Daoudi? Did he ever inform the CIA about that? And when?

    8. When did Italian Deputy Prime Minister Gianfranco Fini inform the CIA about a possible attack on the American president “with the use of an airplane”? What was their reaction?

    9. When did President Mubarak, Egypt, inform the CIA about a possible attack on America with an “airplane stuffed with explosives”? What was their reaction?

    10. When did Efraim Halevy , Director of Mossad since 1998 (unconfirmed) inform the CIA about a possible attack with “200 terrorists” on America? What was their reaction?

    11. Is it true he warned Ariel Sharon not to travel to New York on September 11 to speak at a festival?

    12. Did a caller to Loxley Banks, Director Radio Cayman Islands talk show, give several warnings of an imminent attack on the U.S on Sept. 3 -10?

    13. The London Times reported that someone from the FAA warned Salman Rushdie not to travel to the United States on September 3rd? If this is true, who was it?

    14. Did the FBI investigate the two men who met Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al-Shehhi in Harry’s Bar at the Helmsley Hotel in Manhattan on September 8, 2001?

    15. Who does Abdullah Abdullah (Northern Alliance) believe killed Commander Ahmad Shah Massoud on September 9, 2001?

    16. When and why did he decide to attack Kabul on September 11 at 5:30 PM?

    17. When did he decide to invade Masar-i-Scharif

    18. Did the CIA helped him provoke a tumult?

    19. Did he ever meet John Walker Lindh?

    20. Why was Major John Kenny, Commander Wright Patterson Air Base, Dayton placed on high alert on September 10? Did he inform companies in Dayton to shutdown their offices?

    21. Why was Colonel William M. Dietrick , Commander Defense Language Institute in Garrison, Monterey on high alert on September 10?

    22. Why did one of Kenneth (Ken) Weinbrecht (President SAMS ) executives say on September 10, that he was a ‘Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act.'”

    23. Did Jean-Louis Bruguiere, French anti-terrorism, inform the CIA on September 10 about a possible terrorist attack? If so, what was their reaction?

    24. Why did Atta and hijacker Abdulaziz Alomari check into a Portland, Maine motel (unidentified) on September 10?

    25. Why was the Portland, Airport, according to eye-witnesses, in full charge of more military officials and soldiers than usual, weeks before September 11, 2001?

    26. Why, as the San Francisco Chronicle reported, was Mayor Brown warned to be “cautious in your travel” the night of September 10? Who warned him?

    27. Why did Alex Diamandis, Odigo Vice President of Sales and Marketing, receive a warning on his messenger service about a possible attack on America on September 11, 2001? At which time?

    28. When did Dr.August Hanning , President BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst Germany) inform the CIA that “Middle Eastern terrorists are ‘planning to hijack commercial aircraft ?” What was their reaction? Did he allow an Iranian prisoner in Hamburg call to the CIA in Summer 2001 about an attack on America? What was their reaction?

    AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL/GLOBAL HAWK

    1. Why did Kenneth Waldie, Stanley Hall, Herbert Homer and Peter Gay of Raytheon travel on Sept. 11?

    2. Can Global Hawk technology be used for at least 27 hours?

    3. Is Global Hawk technology used in commercial airplanes?

    4. Did Danielle O’Brien, air traffic controller, inform another air traffic control center about a plane traveling fast southwest of Dulles after spotting it 8:18 AM on September 11?

    5. Who was informed and what happened?

    THE PENNSYLVANIA CRASH

    1. Why didn’t Dr. James G. Roche, Secretary of the Air Force try to reach the airplanes in NYC (7 minutes time for McGuire AFB in New Jersey ) and at the Pentagon (10 minutes time)?

    2. Did Roche ever try to shutdown the plane in Pennsylvania?

    3. Can Roche explain why magazines of that plane were found 20 miles away from the crash? Andrews AFB is 13 miles away. He had one hour and fifteen minutes to respond to the plane that hit the Pentagon. What happened during that time?

    4. Can he explain why many ear and eye witnesses, including workers of the road construction company New Enterprise saw or heard F-16 jets?

    5. Why did President Bush say only one week later that he tried to shutdown that plane?

    6. Who gave that decision?

    DEFENSE ALERTS AND MOVEMENTS

    1. Why did George Bush leave Barksdale Air Force Base aboard Air Force One and flew to an Air Force base in Nebraska on 1:48 PM on September 11 and returned to Washington at 4:30 PM?

    2. What exactly did Donald Rumsfeld do that day before he arrived at the Pentagon around 3:55 PM?

    3. How did Rumsfeld know at 5:30 PM on September 11 that the plane in Pennsylvania could have been headed for one of three possible targets: Camp David, the White House or the U.S. Capitol building?

    4. Can he explain why early media reports told us that no squadrons of combat-ready fighter jets have been at Andrews and later changed their reports that they haven’t been on high alert only?

    5. Why was Air Force Lt. Col. Vic Warzinski, another Pentagon spokesman, so sure on September 11 that aircraft was coming your way?

    6. What did the D.C. Air National Guard in Washington do on September 11?

    7. Can he explain what those 3 fighters did from 9:40AM until 9:55AM when they finally turned towards Flight 93 and were 60 miles out at 10:06am?

    8. Can he explain why Air Traffic Controllers in a Nashua Telegraph article did report an F-16 was circling Flight 93 and was in visual range at the time of crash?

    9. Can he confirm a witness report that National Guard F-16’s have been at Hancock field in Syracuse NY in the air early that morning before 9AM?

    10. How could the hijackers know how to disable defense systems?

    11. What was the official reason that fighters of the 305th Air Wing, McGuire Air Force Base, NJ did not intercept the 2nd hijacked plane in NYC? This would have been possible within 7 minutes after 8:48 AM.

    12. Why did none of the 459th Aircraft Squadron (Andrews AFB) fighters intercept the plane which crashed into the Pentagon? Andrews AFB is 10 miles from Washington DC.

    13. Col. Ken McClellan, Air Force spokesman said on September 11, that Mohammad Atta attended the International Officer’s School at Maxwell/Gunter Air Force Base in Montgomery, and was seen by eye-witnesses? What was McClellan doing there? Why did he later deny the report?

    14. Why did he decide not to shutdown ECHELON base Bad Aibling in Germany as planned for 2002?

    15. What is the reason that none of any Air Force fighters reached the hijacked plane in time?

    16. Many ear and eye witnesses think that the plane in Pennsylvania was shot down. What is the scientific explanation why the magazine of the airplane was found many miles away?

    17. Why did Jack Kelly, idefense.com, inform USA Today only 12 minutes after the first crash (8:48AM), that terror groups using Web encryption may have been responsible? And why was he so sure before the second crash at 9:03 PM?

    18. Did Kelly serve with the U.S. government where he managed several significant programs for the information warfare and intelligence communities?

    19. Did Joseph J. Esposito, Chief of NYPD try to contact the Pentagon at 9:06 AM on September 11? What was their reaction?

    20. Why didn’t General Elwood “Pete” Quesada of the FAA inform President Bush between 8:15 and 9:05 about four simultaneously hijacked planes? Who did he inform and what was their reaction?

    THE WTC COLLAPSE

    1. What does Nicholas Scoppetta of FDNY know about the latest reports of the WTC destruction?

    2. Can he explain why many witnesses saw and heard more than two explosions in the WTC?

    3. Can he explain why both Twin Towers and Building 7 collapsed in that way?

    4. Can he explain why a gas tank was in Building 7?

    5. Can he explain why there were no passengers in the subway under the WTC?

    6. Can he explain why there was no guard at the gold reservoir under the WTC?

    7. Why did Dr. Jeffrey P. Koplan, Director CDC prepare, as CNN reported, emergency-response teams on September 11 at 11:16 PM?

    MISCELLANEOUS

    1. When did Dr.August Hanning , President BND (Bundesnachrichtendienst Germany) inform the CIA that “Middle Eastern terrorists are ‘planning to hijack commercial aircraft ?” What was their reaction? Did he allow an Iranian prisoner in Hamburg call to the CIA in Summer 2001 about an attack on America? What was their reaction?

    2. When did Tayseer Allouni , Kabul correspondent Al-Jazeera, receive his first video from Bin Laden? Can he explain why the first video on October 7 2001, the day of the retaliation, looked like it was recorded in the morning?

    3. Did Tom Simmons (former U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan), Karl Inderfurth (former Assistant Secretary of State for South Asian affairs) and Lee Coldren (former State Department expert on South Asia) decide or announce in a July 2001 meeting that an attack was planned on the Taliban in October 2001?

    4. Why did Ms. Barbara Bodine, US ambassador to Yemen stop John O’Neill from investigating Al-Quaeda accounts in July 2001?

    5. Did Niaz Niak, former Pakistani Foreign Secretary say in mid July 2001 that the USA planned military action against Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban?

    6. Did Hameed Gul, retired Pakistani general of Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence, say that a secret service was involved in the attack on America?

    7. Why did Tommy Thompson, The Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, and other Bush cabinet members meet secretly (i.e. illegally) in Oct. 2001 with officials of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) to develop plans for their Emergency Preparedness Task Force? Why did he decide on October 25, 2001 to ask Congress for another $500 million to produce Acambis’s smallpox vaccine?

    8. Why did it take 4.5 hours until Jean Marie Malecki , Director Palm Beach County Health Department, picked up the phone for employees of the AMI-Building, Boca Raton. This is where editor Bob Stevens got anthrax. Why did she wait two days before she visited that building again?

    9. Why did Mayor Guilani sell WTC rubble to India for recycling and also China? Who made that decision?

    10. What was the purpose of U.S. Ambassador Wendy Chamberlain’s phone call on October 10, 2001 to the Pakistani oil minister? Why was she sure that a previously abandoned Unocal pipeline from Turkmenistan across Afghanistan to the Pakistani coast for the purpose of selling oil and gas to China, was back on the table in view of recent geopolitical developments?

    11. What exactly was found on Z. Moussaoui’s computer after 9/11, when local agents were given a Federal Intelligence Security Act (FISA) warrant, which they had requested six weeks previously? This ties directly into the question of the administration’s dealings with the Taliban, its reluctance to investigate Saudi nationals, etc.

    12. Why the attack on Cynthia McKinney for asking: 1) why has there been no investigation of the 9-11 attack? and 2) did Bush/CIA/NSA know of it beforehand, and allow it to happen?

    13. Why is the Bush administration so strongly against a real investigation into the events of 9-11?

    14. Why did the US give 43 million dollars to Afghanistan back in May or June of 2001

    15. Why did Bush toss the Hart-Rudman terror security study (developed over a 2 year period) and instead assign responsibility to Cheney and FEMA?

    16. Why did Ashcroft stops flying commercial, citing an unidentified “threat” in July 2001? Why did the FBI and Justice not identify the form, origin and time of the threat?

    17. Why did Bush stay in Texas for the month of August and Cheney in Wyoming?

    18. Why didn’t the Secret Service hustle Dubya out of the classroom a half-second after Andy Card told him, “Mr. pResident, the nation is under attack”?

    19. Why did they leave him exposed to danger for two and a half minutes in the classroom and another half-hour in the school before he returned to the relative safety of Air Force One?

    20. Where was George H. W. Bush at the time of the attacks?

    21. Why did passengers or crewmembers on three of the flights tell people on the ground that the highjackers had “box cutters”?

    22. Where are the flight recorders?

    23. How did they find a passport that just “happens” to belong to one of the hijackers in the WTC rubble and they can’t locate even ONE flight recorder?

    24. Why no investigative reporting of the Pentagon scene? The photos do not show much, but then photographers were not allowed, initially, to photograph the scene, if I remember correctly.

    25. Why was the series of recommendations Al Gore also put together in 1996 on airport security called by Republican congress “paranoid” and too harsh. Why did the airline industry, lobbying against it, consider it too expensive and impractical.

    26. Why was the Hart-Rudman report on the potential dangers of terrorism in the homeland. The results of the research ignored by Bush?

    27. Why were FISA warrants disallowed by Bush?

    28. Why did the US pull the plug on Muslim websites Monday September 10, 2001?

    29. Why did the Saudi bin-Laden-group have a website with a PRE-SET expiration date of Sept. 11, 2001?

    30. Why were the bin Ladens flown out of the U.S. on private jets the day after the 9/11?

    31. Why did Cheney say that everyone in the White House started taking Cipro on September 12 when the first anthrax letter wasn’t postmarked until September 18?

    32. Why did Bush dissolve the Bin Laden Task Force? What would have happened had this focused and knowledgeable group been in place 9 months before 911?

    33. Why was metallic debris found 8 miles from the crash site of the plane that went down in Penn? They said it went straight down and left a small hole in the ground. If they found metallic debris from the plane 8 miles away it was either shot down or a bomb exploded in the plane.

    34. Why did they not let the media or any reporters take video or photos of the crash site?

    Hmmmm, perhaps them ‘conspiraloons’ are onto something!

  • lysias

    I just had a reference to the new interview of Seymour Hersh on AlterNet deleted from the New McCarthyism thread. Since I don’t why it was deleted, I will refrain from discussing its contents here, and confine myself to saying it has interesting implications for 9/11.

      • mog

        I had a comment deleted and do not know why.
        It linked to an article in Counterpunch – which I guess is a repository of views that are too controversial for Craig Murray…?

  • Clark

    I watched the first half hour of “Meet the Experts – 40 Extra Interviews from 9 11 Explosive Evidence – Experts Speak Out”. It’s heavily edited and rather tedious; most speakers just list all the building projects they’ve been involved with (some quite impressive but it’s deadly dull) and then briefly say that they want a new investigation because buildings don’t usually collapse like that. Only three have spoken about explosives so far. The vid is over two hours long. I might watch some more; a couple of the speakers were specifically knowledgeable about 9/11 and made some interesting points. So far, the majority of these professionals have not mentioned demolition.

    Far more interesting, I watched Angels Still Don’t Play This HAARP by Nick Begich. I agree with nearly all of this. Begich seems intelligent and has extensively investigated HAARP and related technologies, mostly through political sources. His scientific literacy seems pretty good, certainly better than that of the average mainstream news science journalists.

    Note that only some of the various claimed effects are attributed to HAARP or similar transmitters; Begich has been researching the entire field of environmental modification and warfare, which includes cloud seeding, satellite systems, portable microwave transmitters etc. He does not suggest that HAARP or similar have ever been used to cause earthquakes, nor that any earthquake has ever been deliberately induced by any means. He does point out that to do so is already against international law, and that the US want to get out of such treaties that ban environmental modification. He makes it clear that his warning of HAARP accidentally causing an earthquake in its own vicinity is his colleague’s very worst-case speculation.

    What has been dubbed “mind control” would be better described as widespread mood influence; a practical method is described. And yes, HAARP can induce specific weather effects, but presumably only within a limited range. I must find Begich’s source for his claim that HAARP can transmit up to one gigawatt of electromagnetic energy; the official figure is in the few megawatt range.

    Where I most agree with Begich is that such technology is a rapidly developing danger under military control and secrecy, and that it must be brought under public control and put to use for the good of all.

  • Clark

    Paul Barbara, the list you posted April 22, 09:35, could almost be designed to deter. It’s dreadful. Someone needs to clean it up, fix it and sort it into manageable pieces.

    Just to harp on; notice how few questions concern deliberate demolition. Same as with HAARP – the fantastical claims overshadow the serious matters and lead to them being dismissed.

    • Paul Barbara

      I agree it should give links. I put it up because it exposes just SOME of the serious questions about the ‘Official Cons[piracy Theory’.

      Regarding ‘fantastical claims’ (I assume you’re referring to HAARP), what about this:

      ‘DoD News Briefing: Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen http://archive.defense.gov/Transcripts/Transcript.aspx?TranscriptID=674

      ‘……Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves…..’

      ‘…Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic wave…’ So, the US Secretary of Defence did’t think it was a ‘fantastical claim’ back in 1997!

      • Paul Barbara

        I believe that Gakona HAARP is now mothballed, and they are using a different system to do wha HAARP doing; some sites suggest the Boeing X-37B is now being used; I don’t have any idea how, whereas I did understand how Gakona HAARP worked.

      • Clark

        The list of questions needs more than links. Many questions are repeated or are out of context; sometimes there’s no obvious connection to 9/11 (everyone shouldn’t be assumed to know everything). And it’s just too long expect most people to take it in – it needs structure; breaking down into clearer sections.

      • Clark

        ‘…Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic wave…’

        I’m not sure what to make of this. As a reply, it’s a digression into generalities from a a specific question:

        Q: Let me ask you specifically about last week’s scare here in Washington, and what we might have learned from how prepared we are to deal with that (inaudible), at B’nai Brith.

        Cohen’s main point in answer to this question is that years can be wasted looking for information leaks that may not even exist:

        The mere fear that there is a mole within an agency can set off a chain reaction and a hunt for that particular mole which can paralyze the agency for weeks and months and years even, in a search. The same thing is true about just the false scare [my emphasis] of a threat of using some kind of a chemical weapon or a biological one…

        It is in this context of a “false scare” that Cohen mentions “an eco- type of terrorism” perpetrated by some unidentified “others”…

        This is what I don’t get. In Cohen’s outlook, “terrorism” is either non-state, or maybe state supported. It is not the research projects of nation states – for instance, Iran’s (falsely) alleged nuclear weapons programme would be Iranian state policy, not terrorism. Did Cohen really believe that the sorts of groups he would describe as “terrorist” were actually capable of inducing earthquakes and volcanic eruptions by using electromagnetic transmissions? I think not, but that’s the most obvious interpretation of what he said.

        This was a question-and-answer session for Cohen, and it looks to me as though Cohen was improvising, quickly thinking up some answer to distract from an embarrassing question about infiltration into the authorities and a related false alarm in Washington. Cohen just mentioned the biggest but vaguest threats he could come up with at that moment – in other words, a good distraction. That section certainly isn’t part of a considered assessment of eco-terrorist capabilities.

        This presentation by Cohen is referred to by Begich in the video Angels Still Don’t Play This HAARP, and I’m rather disappointed at Begich for using such an off-hand digression as evidence. From now on I’ll check Begich’s references more carefully.

        I wonder what any of it had to do with B’nai Brith, which seems to be the subject of the original question.

  • John Roffey

    An apparently sober assessment. However, if you consider the knock on effects of the event which has led to so many of today’s never resolved issues – essentially rooted the unending ‘War on Terror’ resulting from 9/11 – it does not appear wise to ban the subject from future posts – for until the true culprits have been identified these issues will continue to remain unresolved along with the justification of the ‘War on Terror’.

    • Paul Barbara

      Watch ‘Alex Jones Interviews Aaron Russo (Full Length)’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3NA17CCboA
      It is an hour and nine minutes; there is a longer version after he died in 2007, where Alex Jones explains the implications.
      The interview explains a great deal about 9/11, the ‘War on Terror’ and more, which was told to Aaron by Nick Rockefeller when he tried to get Aaron to join the CFR.
      It is hugely instructive as to the plans the PTB have for all of us, from a member of the Rockefeller Bankster family.

    • Clark

      I regard Craig’s ban as very sensible because the vast majority just argue about pre-rigged demolition which, in itself, provides no evidence about perpetrators. The clash over demolition theories just diverts thread after thread.

      Even in the scenario most favourable to neocon propaganda, 9/11 was perpetrated by a group that the neocons consistently support, ally with and use as proxy forces. 9/11 more closely resembles a neocon “inside job” than a US government “inside job”.

      US/neocon foreign policy and covert intervention can be very effectively criticised no matter how 9/11 was perpetrated, as Craig has demonstrated time and time again.

      • Clark

        “Neocon inside job” is really just a less forgiving interpretation of the “official story”. It’s not really a case of having to prove the neocon connection. A large portion of the population are barely aware of neoconservatism as a political force, and they’ve no idea of the decades-long collusion of parts of the CIA with terrorists and drug lords. They just don’t understand that covert US operations routinely train, fund, arm, create false identities for and provide intelligence and communication to people just like (quite possibly including) the alleged 9/11 hijackers. Neocons, Hawks, call them what you will, working for similar aggressive objectives within mostly the US, UK and Israel, direct their states’ secret services to employ violent extremists as “assets” and proxy forces, supposedly to be used against official enemies. Wahhabism radicalises, but it’s neocon covert policy that militarises the radicals. They’ve been churning them out for decades but the general public doesn’t know to point out the 9/11 hijackers and say to the neocons “hey, these look a lot like yours”.

        Sorry, I don’t want to add another two hour video to my list; I don’t even watch telly. Sorry John, I know this is the first video you’ve recommended to me but it’s just getting ridiculous, I’ve still got hours already queued. Video seems to be too good at convincing people of particular things; if there’s genuine evidence it is best presented as text with diagrams, maybe making reference to photos, video or audio recordings.

        My working hypothesis is that the Twin towers collapsed due to impact damage and fires. My suspicion is that the NIST cover-up is about suppressing either or both that (1) the Towers escaped proper inspection during construction and ended up weaker than specified and/or (2) that by 2001 the Towers were carrying considerably more load than they were originally designed for. I don’t have a problem with “where the Towers went” as they left a huge pile of debris six storeys deep. Note that I think this about the Twin Towers only; I really don’t know what to make Building 7’s remarkable collapse for which neither damage nor demolition make obvious sense.

        The burned vehicles don’t surprise me. I live on a farm, and when it got so you had to pay to scrap cars we had a spate of cars abandoned and set fire to. The plastics burn like crazy. The steel shells remain recognisable though you’d no longer guess the make and model. The engines melted to a pool of aluminium on the ground and the windscreen glass was nowhere to be seen. Each was just a vehicle on its own amid moist vegetation; things would get a lot hotter with several vehicles burning together on hot concrete or in a closed car park.

        • John Roffey

          Clark, the towers were 110 stories high and were essentially steel structures that did not melt. Even a six story mass of debris would mean that nearly twenty stories would need to be condensed into one [and there were not massive fires burning for hours after the event to dispense with the flammable material]. Apart from that there was barely any recognizable items within the debris, like parts of the porcelain from hundreds of toilets – the evidence provided [very thoroughly] by Wood is that it all turned to dust.

          Her explanation would indicate an advanced form of weaponry – if available – only to one of the few nations leading such research – most likely the US i.e. an inside job. Her explanation would throw light on why building 7 fell down – and not out of sympathy which is the best explanation I have heard!

          She also points out that the buildings represented 1250k tons of debris – the vast majority of which went missing. Manhattan would have been flooded because of the shock of such a collapse to the basin in which it sits and there would have been a seismic recording if so much debris hit the ground – which there wasn’t.

          I do appreciate it is a daunting prospect to watch a two hour video – but she has a very easy manner and takes her time to explain each part. Even so – she makes her case within the first five minutes. Why not just watch that part to see if you become intrigued – if not abandon the attempt. The subject is her expertise and her explanation covers all of the issues that are not otherwise explained – and it provides a culprit.

          I haven’t watched the whole video – but enough to be pretty convinced [in the absence of any other satisfactory explanation].

        • Clark

          John Roffey:

          “Even a six story mass of debris would mean that nearly twenty stories would need to be condensed into one”

          Yes I think 20:1 is about right; I’ve read that the volume of the Towers was about 95% air space. Not that the material actually compacted as much as that, as the debris piles were spread over a much larger area than the footprints of the buildings. The debris certainly did not turn to dust – zoom in on the following photos. Note also how slender the remains of the perimeter walls of the Towers look now that they lack the illusion of solidity:

          Clark, the towers were 110 stories high and were essentially steel structures that did not melt.

          https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/September_17_2001.jpg

          https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/3/3b/20050601212353%21September_17_2001.jpg

          https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/3/3b/20050601212330%21September_17_2001.jpg

          https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/3/3b/20050601212321%21September_17_2001.jpg

          https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/Remains_of_WTC1_and_WTC2_after_9-11.jpg

          https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/WTC-Fireman_requests_10_more_colleagesa.jpg

  • Clark

    From Cohen’s Q&A session:

    ……Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific…”

    Isn’t “Alvin Toeffler” actually Alvin Toffler, the futurist? Really not a Defense Department researcher, more a corporate media talking-head:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Toffler

    • Paul Barbara

      BUT, it is the Defense Secretary quoting him as though in agreement.
      As for ‘ethnic-specific pathogens’, the US, Israel, Apartheid South Africa and I’m sure others have worked on these for yonks. AIDS was created as a tool against Blacks, but got released before it could be ‘fine-tuned’, attacking anyone.
      Cathy O’Brien was a witness to George HW Bush saying what follows below, at Bohemian Grove.
      She was there as a totally Mind Controlled sex slave, so nobody minded saying or doing anything in front of her, or indeed to her; it was believed she could never remember the events unless they used their programme on her.
      But, thank God, she and her mind-controlled 8-year old daughter were rescued by an Intelligence guy, Mark Phillips, who not only deprogrammed Cathy, but made her his wife. Sadly, he could not completely deprogram her daughter, because high-tech ‘Harmonic’ programming had been used on her since birth, and he did not have access to the equipment’.
      Notice that Haiti was listed as one of the first for depopulation, and remember the (HAARP?) earthquake, and the ‘accidental’ epidemic of cholera spread by the Nepalese troops? (http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/11/20121115101554961482 .html ):

      And notice also the probable birth of the ‘Shape shifting lizard’ business; it obviously wasn’t just being thought of then, because Bush actually tried the hologram on her:
      (so looks like Icke & Co. were led up the proverbial garden path)!!

      Beginning quote:

      ‘Darpa’s artificial intelligence was reliant on secrecy, and a terrifying cover for reality was chosen to divert people from the simple truth. Since people perceive aliens as being physical like them,it was decided that the technological reality could be disguised according to preconceptions. Through generations of genetic encoding dating back to the beginning of man, serpents incite an innate autogenic response system in humans to ‘freeze’ in terror. George Bush was excited at the prospects of diverting people from truth by fear through perpetuating lizard-like serpent alien misconceptions. ”People fear what they don’t know anyway. By compounding that fear with autogenic fear response, they won’t want to look into Pandora’s box.”

      Through deliberate generation of fear; suppression of facts under the 1947 National Security Act; Bush’s stint as CIA| director during Ford’s Administration; the Warren Commission’s whitewash of the Kennedy Assassination; secrecy artificially ensured by mind control particularly concerning DARPA, HAARP, Roswell, Montauk, etc; and with people’s fluidity of conscious thought rapidly diminishing; the secret government embraced the proverbial ‘absolute power that corrupts absolutely.’

      According to New World Order plans being discussed at the Grove, plans for reducing the earth’s population was a high priority. Mass genocide of so-called ”undesirables” through the proliferation of AIDS was high on Bush’s agenda. ”We’ll annihilate the n*ggers at their source, beginning in South and East Africa and Haiti.” Having heard Bush say those words is by far one of the most torturous things I ever endured. Equally as torturous to my being were the discussions on genetic engineering, human cloning, and depletion of earth’s natural resources for profit. Cheney remarked that no one would be able to think to stop technology’s plan. ”I’ll destroy the planet first,” Bush had vowed.’

      (Copied verbatim, page 168 ‘Access Denied: For Reasons of National Security’ by Cathy O’Brien with Mark Phillips. A footnote also points to Chapter 23, ‘Whirled Vision’, of ‘Trance Formation of America’ by same authors.)

      Here are a couple of videos of Cathy and Mark:

      Mind Control & MK-ULTRA + Cathy + Mark Phillips:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaX1hqGgK4U

      Roseanne Barr introduces Cathy O’Brien:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7SWnZMPng

      Aaron Russo declined a life of untold wealth and power when he declined Nick Rockefeller’s attempt to recruit him into the CFR, because he was not a sociopath, had a conscience and believed in God.
      He knew the risks he was taking when he spoke out about 9/11, and accepted them. RIP, Aaron, you were a great man. I hope to meet you in the hereafter, but hopefully not too soon!

      • Paul Barbara

        Russo talks of other things disclosed by Nick Rockefeller as in the pipeline; end of money – it would all be credits on plastic, which could disappear in a twink of an eye if the PTB decided someone was a nuisance or making waves; RFID, which is getting nearer as cattle, pets and children are increasingly RFID’d, children by convincing parents of the benefits of tracking lost children; acting against Venezuela.
        Exposed NWO plans, or did Nick Rockefeller have a really good ‘crystal ball’?
        Have the predictions come about, or do they seem to be on the horizon?

  • Clark

    Ah, Vronski. Regarding some of the building collapses on 9/11, I think you wrote something like “Newton will win this”, so presumably you can link to the physical argument I’ve been asking for for months. And what specifically are you expecting Newton to win?

  • Clark

    OK here’s something to think about. Imagine the Twin Towers scaled down by 100:1. Over four metre high, a cage of fine steel strands with a thin coating of ceramic, subdivided at 4cm vertical intervals by 1mm ceramic wafers, each upon fine wire mesh. Though towering over me I think it would look rather delicate, especially the higher sections, and I certainly wouldn’t risk trying to sit atop of it.

    So this is our scale model, and it looks unlikely to collapse under its own weight, right? But we’ve scaled the building without scaling the gravitational force. To correct for this, do we have to imagine one hundred times the gravitational force such that our model stands in a field of 100g? It barely seems conceivable, surely it would crush itself?

    I have some misgivings about this reckoning myself as it seems too extreme. But in a collapse, scaled down 100:1, to gain as much velocity between floors, falling debris would have to accelerate a hundred times as fast; is that not so?

  • Paul Barbara

    @ Vronsky April 29, 2016 at 15:40
    ‘This needs to be renamed ‘Clark’s Thread’.’

    Interestingly, Clark has baulked at the chance to put his ‘theories’ and ‘questions’ to Richard Gage and Niels Harrit in person; they will be giving a presentation in London on May 7th.
    Shows how much faith he has in his ‘theories’! I should think Richard and Niels could do with a good belly-laugh; their work is cut out for them battling the PTB and MSM. A good laugh works wonders.

  • Clark

    Paul Barbara, what’s so fucking interesting about that, cunt? Are you saying that I myself don’t believe the stuff I post here? You’re calling me a liar? You can fuck right off with that, I will NOT TOLERATE insinuations that I am acting maliciously. I’m just an ordinary person trying to sort turds from treasure among all the conflicting stuff one finds on the Internet. It’s already hard, confusing and emotionally draining without the likes of you and Exexpat trying to incite suspicion of my motives among the reading public.

    Have a happy Sunday, plotting murders with your secret friends 😀

  • Clark

    Paul Barbara, WHEN I next attend a demonstration in London, be sure to meet me there. I’ll carry one end of a banner with you. But don’t expect a smile from me unless you’re prepared to retract your insinuations.

  • Clark

    And now I’ll get off the ‘net for the day, because the ‘net brings unpleasant, hostile experiences that are quite personal. I won’t be watching telly or reading the corporate news media, but if I did I could be sure that it wouldn’t start making personal accusations against me.

    Paul Barbara, please grandstand less and think more.

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