45 thoughts on “Coaching, PR and Public Discourse

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  • YugoStiglitz

    I actually remember the first time I saw this guy on video. Not too long ago. He seems like someone who is desperately attempting to create cult for himself, but failing miserably. Unless of course you consider that he could be the next prime minister.

  • mary

    HRH is not amused anyway.

    Senior royal staff were “gobsmacked” over the appointment of the former News Of The World (NOTW) editor Andy Coulson by David Cameron, Sky sources have said.
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    Royal correspondent Paul Harrison said there were “grave concerns” within the household when Mr Coulson was taken on by Mr Cameron in 2007 when he was in opposition.
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    Mr Coulson was then made director of communications when Mr Cameron became Prime Minister in 2010.
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    The journalist resigned as editor of the NOTW in 2007 after royal reporter Clive Goodman and private investigator Glenn Mulcaire were jailed for hacking the phones of royal aides.
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    Mr Coulson has since been arrested and questioned by detectives on the new hacking inquiry launched earlier this year.
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    Harrison said it was not known if the concern went up to members of the royal family or not.
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    Downing Street has said the claim is a “scurrilous allegation” and “complete rubbish”.
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    Buckingham Palace said: “On no occasion did anyone from Buckingham Palace raise concerns with Downing Street.”
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    The PM is due to give a statement on the phone-hacking scandal at 11.30am when he will answer MPs questions.
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    On Tuesday Rupert and James Murdoch were quizzed by a committee of MPs about allegations of hacking at the NOTW.
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    http://tiny.cc/wjbpn

  • Ally

    Oh, I don’t know, he has a point, maybe if we all put aside the rhetoric and get around the negotiating table we can stop this thing happening again….or alternatively we can get around the negotiating table, put aside the rhetoric and we can stop this thing happening again….either way, we should put the rhetoric aside and get around the negotiating table….

  • Jon

    The danger is this model of automaton has had a history of exploding due to a serious short circuit fault. Cameramen, if the voice synthesizer gets stuck in a loop as per the demonstration video, check for wires protruding out the neck – if you can see red and blue ones, stand well back. And do please co-operate fully with the manufacturer’s representatives if they decide to do a recall.

  • mary

    We await a performance now from Cameroon. They will be baying and booing in turn from alternative sides.

  • Anon

    I saw it and heard it, my opinion…All is lost. Reminds me of Thatcher, when asked any question`s she didn`t want to answer, she used to say “That is not the question” and then go onto something else.

  • mary

    PS Sky News’ Joey Johnson, Chief Politicial Editor no less, has just said that ‘Cameron looked assertive’ when leaving No 10 and getting into his car. YCNMIU.

  • Anon

    “Unless of course you consider that he could be the next prime minister.”
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    I`ve got a slug at the bottom of my garden that would make a better “prime minister” then Ed Miliband.

  • Jon

    So, we should get around the rhetoric, stop the negotiating table and put aside the happening again. No, that’s not it. Get around the happening again, stop the negotiating table and put aside… no that’s not it either. Dammit. Err, is this thing on?

  • mary

    He’s adding the names of some of the usual suspects to Leveson’s enquiry team.
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    Now he is paying tributes to the departed plods.

  • mary

    Clegg’s body language is interesting. He looks deeply unhappy and uninterested in what Cameron is saying alongside him. His gaze is fixed on the far distance.

  • angrysoba

    Oh, I don’t know, he has a point, maybe if we all put aside the rhetoric and get around the negotiating table we can stop this thing happening again….or alternatively we can get around the negotiating table, put aside the rhetoric and we can stop this thing happening again….either way, we should put the rhetoric aside and get around the negotiating table….

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    Don’t forget that these strikes are wrong and the government has acted in a reckless and provocative manner.

  • mary

    When I started watching today’s ‘debate’ Sky were running a banner with the results of a poll on http://www.news.com/politics on the question ‘Has the hacking scandal damaged Cameron’s credibility?’
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    Then it was saying 55% Yes and 45% No.
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    Since then it has swung back to Yes 48% and No 52%. There must have been a lot of tweets and e-mails to Conservative party supporters to get voting No.

  • LeeJ

    Forgive me, but would not anyone outside the press or politics say to Milliband – “Aye mate, your just repeating yourself like a retard”. Surely interviewing techniques which addressed the intervewee as if in the real world would stop these people getting away with what they do.

  • OldMark

    ‘The danger is this model of automaton has had a history of exploding due to a serious short circuit fault. ‘

    Jon- does this mean you see a resemblance between Millipede the Younger & Science Officer Ashe from ‘Alien’ ? Scary.

  • Jon

    @LeeJ – this was a pooled interview, done by ITN, for several channels in one go – so I expect unwritten rules of decorum had to apply. If the interviewer was just interviewing for ITN on his own, he might well have asked Milliband to stop repeating himself. But I take the point in general, yes – reporters could do with being a great deal more outspoken generally.
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    @OldMark – ha, yes, I wonder! White hydraulic fluid instead of blood – another tell-tale sign to watch out for. Journalists would be well advised to carry a pin, and to jab him when he least expects it.

  • Paul

    Very very depressing indeed. I feel that the old adage needs updating: “Those that can, do; those that can’t go into politics”. It’s true where I am now (Hong Kong) and it seems to be true in the UK as well.

  • Wikispooks

    per my earlier comment.

    After reading the interviewer’s afterword it’s better than I had thought. It is bloody hilarious; EM is a wide-eyed innocent being coached by Morons – at least it would be hilarious if it weren’t so damned serious.

  • Rich

    I’m gobsmacked … speechless, actually. The worst part of it is that this prat has actually managed to land a few punches on Cameron and the coalition in the House: what does that say about our glorious leaders? …. Oh God, cry the beloved country!

  • Clark

    This problem follows from live interviews of politicians. Politicians are now chosen, both by their party and by the electorate, for their appeal to the public – ie, their PUBLIC IMAGE.
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    No politician or prospective politician should be allowed on TV or video, radio or audio. All statements should be by text only.
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    This comment is either only partly serious, or a reflection of an authoritarianism in the depths of my personality. But I do believe that the qualities that make a good public servant are in no way similar to those that make a convincing media image.

  • Parky

    Miliband is obviously a brainwashed moron who regrettably one day has a chance of becoming PM, this would be a laugh but for the fact that George W Bush was too and look what happened there.

    When I first saw this video I thought someone had edited his sound-bite together in a loop for fun, but it seems genuine and it is somewhat worrying that miliboy didn’t even seem to realise what he was saying.

    More often than not i find myself switching channel when these tossers are given air-time.

    Just as an aside maybe interviewers should carry comedy paper plates filled with shaving foam when too many dodgy and useless answers to questions are given. And Splat! making sure that there is no Wendi-Wife nearby to land a judo-chop on ones’ bounce!

  • mary

    On Medialens
    Letter to Philip Davies Con MP
    Posted by mlevy on July 20, 2011, 3:22 pm

    Dear Mr Davies
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    I have been watching your excellent questioning of the Murdoch’s on Sky News. You were articulate and very incisive in your questioning. The formidable Murdoch duo were certainly uncomfortable at being so forensically questioned by you. Take a bow sir!
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    However i do believe that you should have declared your interest in these proceedings. You have been a wilful collaborator in Murdoch’s enterprise of smearing and demonizing British citizens. You have used his media to cast aspersions on people in the most vilest and crudest language so unbecoming of a politician.
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    In the 7 October 2006 edition of The Sun (Brave heroes hounded out), you were quoted as saying “If there’s anybody who should #### off it’s the Muslims who are doing this kind of thing. Police should pull out the stops to track down these vile thugs”.
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    While The Sun on 15 January 2007 apologised for this non-story, you as yet have not apologized for your disgraceful and racist statements.
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    It is one thing to posture on the world stage, but it is disgraceful of you to position yourself as a defender of the righteous when you fail to correct your own behaviour.
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    I await your apology to those Muslims you caused harm to. The Sun is still available for you to do so.
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    Regards
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    Marcus Levy
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    Re: Letter to Philip Davies Con MP
    Posted by johnlilburne on July 20, 2011, 3:53 pm, in reply to “Letter to Philip Davies Con MP”
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    The guy’s a reactionary loon – not surprising considering who is father is, Peter Davies, the English Democrat Mayor of Doncaster.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Davies
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  • John Goss

    I couldn’t believe it either. Rhetoric is the blood, flesh and bones of great parliamentary delivery and technique. Two houses have been thriving on it for as long as I can remember. It’s entertaining to hear MPs let fly with a few choice figures of speech, adding to the dictionary of historical quotations. I like people telling me I’ve never had it so good, I would even like to believe it’s true. I like to be entertained. Policy would be nice, but in its absence, I’m going to have to settle, as in the past, for rhetoric. Put it aside, and what you’re going to get is repetition, repetition, repetition; and a pallid, emaciated, bloodless despatch-box techinque.

  • Jack

    Jesus wept. What more can be said?

    Just how f—ed up IS this country? Far more than our worst fears it turns out. UK.plc – everything for sale – bargain prices – special offers on constabulary and politicians.

    I’m now retired. I SHOULD be bemoaning my old age. In fact I welcome it – I wouldn’t be young now for all the tea in China. I certainly wouldn’t fight for this country any more. On balance, I think my immediately post-war generation had the best of it. WTF are we leaving to a younger generation? God help them.

  • Guest

    Jack
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    Getting on a bit myself. I couldn`t agree more with you.
    I think that it has always gone on, its just that with the web its really come to light more for those who seek to know things/truth. Its always been an evil world, we can only hope that one day it will change…A forlorn hope, but it is all we have.

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