In the last decade, now 7/7 has dropped out of this statistic, only one person has been killed in the UK by an Islamic terrorist attack. Let me repeat that. In the last decade, one person has been killed in the UK by an Islamic terrorist attack. That unfortunate death was Lee Rigby.
Rigby’s tragic murder illustrated how easy it is for terrorists to commit an outrage. Two very disorganised Nigerian nutters murdered him with knives. Unfortunately, if a couple of nutters decide to go at someone on the street, they have a high chance of success.
Which is why you would have to be a lunatic actually to believe MI5’s repeated claims during the last decade that there are thousands of dedicated terrorists out there, fanatical determined and organised, but in a decade of constant effort they have succeeded in killing nobody else. There were, MI5 claim, six actual terrorist plots this year but fortunately MI5 saved all of us.
If you believe MI5’s stories, there are two possibilities. The first is that we have security services of a quite incredible efficiency, able to foil random terrorism, generally regarded as near impossible. The second is that we have thousands of dedicated terrorists of such incredible ineptitude that they can’t manage to kill anybody, even when they could choose any random undefended target in the entire UK and any method from knives to poison to hit and run to shooting to bombs, and don’t mind losing their own lives in the attempt. We have rubbish terrorists.
There is of course a third possibility – that these thousands of dedicated terrorists and these scores of foiled plots in the last decade were inventions, or at least the grossest exaggerations, by the security services. A number of fantasists have indeed been convicted and jailed. But the only, single, potential attacker in recent years who actually possessed a viable bomb was a British army soldier with a hatred of Muslims. And naturally he was not counted as nor convicted as a terrorist. Terrorists are Muslims.
The famous “liquid bomb plot”, in which it eventually transpired, unreported by mainstream media, that there were in fact no bombs and no plane tickets and the suspicious chemical found in baby bottles was Milton sterilising solution for baby bottles, is perhaps the best example.
But of course, lots of people are convicted of terrorism. Indeed law after law has stretched the definition of terrorism so far that I am almost certainly guilty of it just by publishing this blogpost. Meanwhile the Government is concentrating on bullying universities and students to ban speakers who say exactly the kind of thing I am writing here, speakers who protest against the detention and harassment of Muslims, and the continued policy of bombing Muslim countries and killing civilians.
Because there is almost no Islamic terrorism in the UK. It is virtually non-existent. It is not the true reason the corporate state wants ever more surveillance power, ever more restriction on freedom of speech and even, in universities, freedom of thought. Do not be fooled. Fight back.
Deep State Harassment of Peaceful Protest Groups
Here are a few of the things we have learned about undercover policing in Britain. A unit led by a policeman called Bob Lambert deployed officers to spy on peaceful activists. They adopted the identities of dead children and then infiltrated protest groups. Nine of the 11 known spies formed long-term relationships with women in the groups, in some cases (including Lambert’s) fathering children with them. Then they made excuses and vanished.
They left a trail of ruined lives, fatherless children. They also walked away from other kinds of mayhem. Lambert co-wrote the leaflet for which two penniless activists spent three years in the high court defending a libel action brought by McDonald’s. The police never saw fit to inform the court that one of their own had been one of the authors.
To support the activities of such policing former home office minister Nick Herbert stated in parliament that it was “acceptable for police officers to have sex with activists, for the sake of their ‘plausibility’.”
The same officer was accused of using a false identity during a criminal trial. And, using parliamentary privilege, the MP Caroline Lucas alleged that he planted an incendiary device in a branch of Debenhams while acting as an agent provocateur. The device exploded, causing £300,000 of damage. Lambert denies the allegation.
http://truepublica.org.uk/united-kingdom/deep-state-harassment-peaceful-protest-groups/
“There were, MI5 claim, six actual terrorist plots this year but fortunately MI5 saved all of us.”
If it affected me at all I would sleep better in my bed knowing that. MI5 has a shite record of doing anything but spread misinformation and the above is just another example.
Accepting that Lee Rigby did exist as you say, one terrorist killing in ten years is a thousand times less threatening than crossing the road. Mention has been made of Jean Charles de Menenez but not of our security services major cock-up in that affair (if it was a cock-up). What we are much more likely to hear of is people going about their daily business and being picked off by these people who are supposed to make us feel safe.
It therefore needs to be asked who the enemy is. Good post. MI5 releases are absolute bullshit. Finding the true message behind them is time-wasting.
The police admitted to shooting de Menezes so the HSE prosecuted them (not the CPS) with the result that the taxpayer was fined and also had to pay off his family.
This is perfectly acceptable except the police didn’t shoot de Menezes, they said in Court they did, broke down crying and said sorry but it wasn’t true. Two of their “delegates” shot de Menezes, they were brought in to kill someone that day, not arrest them. The whole “incident” was a Blair + Blair PR stunt that went predictably tits up.
The police were not issued with the ammunition that killed de Menezes nor trained in its use until 5 years later. The “police officers” photographed at the scene were holding weapons (modified for special forces use)not issued to the MET.
Q. What do Dr David Kelly, Jean Charles de Menezes, 7/7 and Jimmy Savile and the IRA have in common?
A. Mi5 cover up.
If MI5 and the ‘security services’ failed to find paedophiles in Westminster, how can we expect them to identify terrorists?
Mi5 didn’t have to find paedophiles in Westminster.
Doug don’t be silly he got read it in the memo that he gets everyday before he comes here to spam.
Fact that seed of Satan was in London is not enough, no Siry we need to find his finger prints on the button and stuff before he can be tied to plaything.
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In one of the most bizarre developments in the neo tosser world of wet dreams come ture, Markus wolf was holding “teach ins” in US in helping their officials and “interested/responsible” citizens to maintain security by being informed/keeping an eye out/spying on one another, to remain aware of what goes on around them!
The Muslim boy taking his little clock to the School is enough to raise the threat level to maximum and get the police involved. Fact that the police arrived and arrested and handcuffed the boy in school is indisputable fruition of the policies of the neo tossers in which a Muslim youngster can be arrested, cuffed, detained, and interrogated without any problems despite the laws preventing such a conduct by the police. (FAO Jon note the due process and respect for laws).
This is no Psyop, it is in your face discrimination against Muslims and the extent of tolerance of the US society witnessing such a treatment. All too often on this board and elsewhere, there is a hue and cry about the maltreatment of the Jews way back in the last century. However the unfolding universal discrimination against Muslims, and their mistreatment is not of any consequence.
Je sui Charlie is taking the piss out of the dead Syrian infant’s image, no reaction from anyone of the luminaries in the Oligarch Owned Media. This board getting spammed by outright vile racist comments against Muslims, the comments are left in place and the culprits are left to get on with spewing their hatred without let or hindrance.
The arrest of the Muslim boy in a school is an elegant manifestation of the extent of accepted and tolerated discrimination and racism against Muslims, that is all! This thread is about the 3000 Muslims (but in coded speak it is changed into Terrorists”) who are a threat to our “democracy”, Morris Dancing, and …………..
Is that a Psyop? No just plain old taking advantage of the situation to make hay while the sunshine of threats, fear, and foreboding are making lives even mores miserable than the economic collapse and wealth transfer form the poor to the very rich and super rich is underway.
If you can’t handle Spivey – he does swear a lot – and gives over 100 times more detail than most people can handle – check out the Youtube videos of 108Morris108 though he probably spooked himself with what he published and disappeared off to Cambodia. I guess its better than Wandsworth…
This one only takes a minute. Don’t worry about the minor details if it hurts your head.
“Woolwich Blood And No Blood – Morris”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPA85cuCb1M
Tony
From the Mi5 website,
https://www.mi5.gov.uk/home/about-us/what-we-do.html
“WHAT WE DO
MI5 protects the UK against threats to national security”
“What is national security?
The term “national security” is not specifically defined by UK or European law. Successive Governments and Parliament have not defined the term in order to retain the flexibility necessary to ensure that it can adapt to changing circumstances.
As a matter of Government policy, the term “national security” is taken to refer to the security and well-being of the United Kingdom as a whole. The “nation” in this sense is not confined to the UK as a geographical or political entity but extends to its citizens, wherever they may be, and its system of government.”
So if you don’t know what National Security is how can you recognise a threat against it?
Unless Mi5 has a properly defined purpose they can do what the fuck they like!
Oh now I see, now I get it.
‘Let’s support the 19 people arrested at Block the Factory
On 6 July 2015, to commemorate Israel’s assault on Gaza last summer which killed over 2,200 Palestinians, we successfully blocked the Elbit-owned factories in Shenstone and Tamworth.
Elbit’s factories manufacture parts for drones which are exported all over the world. Managing to shut down the factory for a day, in concert with activists around the world who shut down other Elbit locations in Kent and Melbourne, we sent a message to the UK government to stop arming Israel. We showed that we’ll target Israeli drone manufacturers with non-violent direct action so long as they make weapons to murder people.
19 of those involved in the protest at Shenstone were arrested and all have been charged with breaching an injunction which had established a 250 metre ‘exclusion zone’ around the factory.
All 19 are pleading Not Guilty and have elected to be tried at Crown court. The next court hearing will be at Stafford crown court on Friday 27th November (NB this is not the trial date). The 19 come from all over the country, from Aberdeen, the North of England, the Midlands, London and the South West. The cost of travelling to court hearings and to meet with their legal team to prepare their defence is considerable.
Can you help? We need to support the people who have been arrested and make sure they are supported throughout the court process. Each court hearing is likely to cost around £1,500 in total travel costs for the 19.
Please make a small donation to help cover the travel costs of the 19 people arrested at Block the Factory
We want to keep this campaign going and raise the cost of doing business with Israel in the UK and abroad, but in doing this we’re facing a well-funded and well-organised opponent, who can rely on the help of the British government and major arms companies. With your help, we’re confident we can keep our activities funded and accessible, and put some more dents in the Israeli war machine!’
https://www.blockthefactory.org/#news
Adebolajo had an MI5 handler.
On the morning of 22nd May 2013 an MI5 communications engineer set-to-work a secure communications link near General Gordon Square in Woolwich. Why?
“Block the Factory” sounds like a national security threat to me, anyone supporting it could be suspected of aiding and abetting the threat.
Under current law anyone involved in this type of activity runs the risk of being zipped up in a holdall and abandoned in a bath.
Without this type of protection none of us are safe.
Annie Machon – bless her – has asked to share this with you:
http://ian56.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/why-libyan-civil-war-of-2011-happened.html
I have just spoke to a well placed source who confided to me that the government accept that the absence of definition for a national security threat is undesirable so it is proposed that a secret session of Parliament is convened and the Duckind Stool test revised and passed into law this should shut conspiracy theorists once and for all.
come on everybody knows how climb into a holdall and zip up the holdall and then do a Houdini and lock the said zipper in place just to make sure that burglars and thieves don’t accidentally stumble on their dead corpse and steal it!!!
Bloody conspiracy loon, tin foil hat, so forth and stuff and ………..
Back to three thousand terrorists, that result in an urgent need of at least thirty million MIx officers/freeloaders for recruitment to keep an eye on everyone of the feckkers mincing around the country. A one to one ratio of Security Officers (not spies you liberal retards) to terrorist is an ideal target to keep this place safe! Anyone disagreeing with this policy is obviously a terrorist and a Muslim sympathiser and should go and live in Russia where don’t have the Queen! On the other hand they should be jailed if not droned at once.
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Do tell more Mark. This kind of mundane events are never reported in the thrill seeking oligarch owned media!
” everybody knows how climb into a holdall and zip up the holdall and then do a Houdini and lock the said zipper in place ”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIjzZlMQaeg
As I have already said, I was answering a question about whether Netanyahu was in London on 7/7 that had been posed on this thread.
“Now I don’t know whether that’s correct or not. But whichever is true, it is still difficult to see what the relevance of Netanyahu’s and Giulian’s presence in London is to the 7/7 bombings.”
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Habb.
More to the point I can’t the relevance of you on, this blog, I’m sure the 77th Brigade would welcome you with open arms.
No doubt one of your minions will pop up with a limp wristed reason, of why the space you exist in isn’t wasted.
I have followed Dave McGowan of a “Center For an Informed America” for over 10 years. He is the best analyst I have ever come across. He is one of the very few people who understood 9/11 on Day 1, and wrote about it the next day. It took me nearly 18 months.
I had already seen and understood – from various sources – including his – this analysis of what happened in Boston…
“The Boston Marathon Bombings: Fully Exposed
(Formerly titled The Curious Case of the Man Who Could Only Sit Down)”
http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr114.html
I read about Woolwich on the Internet, before seeing any TV coverage whatsoever. I immediately felt physically ill, because I felt it highly probable it was a similar kind of event – before seeing any analysis whatsoever. I understood the full implications.
I then watched Chris Spivey analyse it in great detail over the next few days. At one point, he posted words to the equivalent “Oh My God – they are going to Murder me for writing this”. Yet he had only written it on his own blog. No one had to read it. He wasn’t harassing anyone. If his analysis wasn’t true – why not just ignore him. Just another nutter. The internet is full of them. Yet he still had the heavy squad – kicking down his door at 2:00am – and terrorising him, his daughter and his Grandson. Then they came back and did it again.
That is the country we live in, and if we ignore it – it will get considerably worse.
The Truth is hard to handle. But that is the truth.
Don’t mention Woolwich to anyone. 99.9% of people believe what they have been fed. If you tell the truth, particularly in the kinds of places I go, you are highly likely to get your head kicked in.
Tony
Not only was there an exercise in progress in London on 7/7, but there were air defense exercises going on in the U.S. government on 9/11. There is evidence that the confusion resulting from those exercises helped to impede the reaction to the 9/11 attacks.
The keyboardi warior unit has come back with a killer blow, found a set up video of a Female Contortionist yes a female, whom probably is a circus actor who is pushed as “The journalist in this video” (is 5ft 5ins), and incidentally she is “only” yeah you got it “only”, jsut 3ins shorter than Gareth! She proceeds to zip herself up in the bag on the carpet floor, with oodles of room around her.
Fact that Gareth was inside his holdall and placed in the bath, well that is just nitpicking by those conspiracy loons, tin foi………… etc.
Although is it a coincidence that the keyboardi warrior units fighting the good war in defence of zionistan (paid of course sensibly), but the same never fail to let an opportunity to go by wasted without sucking up to the establishment/SIS/etc (unpaid seemingly). They alway suck up to authority in UK, is this sort of keyboardi warrior thing, we standard folk don’t understand?
** no one has been watching it and probably the viewing figures have been massaged to not to embarrass those who budgeted for the “production” of such a comprehensive rebuttal.
Just a coincidence like the other hundreds f coincidences such as the dancing zionstanis caught/apprehended in a truck that had traces of explosives, etc.
” The keyboardi warior unit has come back with a killer blow ”
Yup. Proves it can be done and if Gareth had the sides of the bath to push against it would’ve been much easier. He’d also probably done it before so had some practice.
Spivey contacted or tried to contact Rigby’s family on several occasions and published their contact details on his website. His actions went well beyond what is acceptable. I suppose if you’re prepared to believe that the Glasgow bin lorry crash and the Shoreham air crash were faked (for what reason?) then Spivey has some credibility but even a lot of David Icke’s acolytes think he’s a nutjob. The only thing wrong with the sentence he was given was that he should’ve been Sectioned.
Oded Yinon plan in action.
Medialens –
Wikileaks: More on Syria destabilisation plan of 2006
September 18, 2015, 3:49 pm
Released this afternoon, building on what Assange mentioned in The Wikileaks Files … ‘US embassy Tel Aviv in on Syria destabilization plan”
Cable: 06DAMASCUS5399_a
INFLUENCING THE SARG IN THE END OF 2006
LINK > https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06DAMASCUS5399_a.html#efmAPuAP9
http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/1442587770.html
From our Transatlantic Friend:
“As I have already said, I was answering a question about whether Netanyahu was in London on 7/7 that had been posed on this thread.”
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Yes, and I suppose you’ll keep saying it just to get in yet another mention of yourself on this UK blog.
Just as I keep saying: what is the point you’re trying to make?
Or – to put it into non-Oxford Greatsman’s English : so what?
“Peter Beswick”
“I have just spoke to a well placed source who confided to me…”
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Yeah, sure. And I am David Cameron.
Please tell who decided to wheel you in to here a few threads ago and why?
I will continue to say, when asked, that I was answering the question about whether Netanyahu was in London on 7/7 because every time that I say that is another time that readers are reminded that he was there then. (Just as every time that I am asked why I gave that answer serves as another reminder of that to the readers.)
Air Defense Exercise a Month Before 9/11 Was Based Around Osama Bin Laden Carrying Out an Aerial Attack on Washington
NORAD’s Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS) held a training exercise just over a month before September 11, 2001, which had some uncanny similarities to the 9/11 attacks. The exercise, called Fertile Rice, was based around the scenario of Osama bin Laden–the man who supposedly ordered the 9/11 attacks–organizing an aerial attack on a high-profile government building in Washington, DC–one of the cities attacked on September 11.
NEADS personnel were scheduled to take part in an exercise on September 11. We therefore need to consider whether the similarities between the scenario for the Fertile Rice exercise and some of the incidents they had to deal with on the morning of September 11 caused them to mistake real-world events for part of the day’s exercise and thereby impaired their ability to respond to the 9/11 attacks.
EXERCISE INVOLVED BIN LADEN PLANNING TO ATTACK WASHINGTON WITH A DRONE AIRCRAFT
NEADS, based in Rome, New York, was responsible for monitoring and defending the airspace in which the hijackings occurred on September 11, and was consequently responsible for coordinating the U.S. military’s response to the 9/11 attacks. [1] It ran an exercise called Fertile Rice each week. [2] On August 4, 2001–five and a half weeks before 9/11–Fertile Rice was based around the scenario of Osama bin Laden’s operatives attacking a target in Washington. [3]
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NEADS personnel are known to have been in the middle of a major air defense exercise on September 11, called Vigilant Guardian, which simulated an attack on the United States. [6] Most of the staffers on the NEADS operations floor on the morning of September 11 had no idea what the exercise was going to involve that day, according to the Utica Observer-Dispatch. [7] They could presumably therefore have thought any suspicious reports they received were part of the exercise.
We can see that the August 4 exercise resembled the 9/11 attacks–or at least the official account of the attacks–in several ways. These similarities may have caused NEADS personnel to mistakenly think events on September 11 were part of that day’s exercise, since these personnel might have thought they were being tested on a similar scenario.
http://911blogger.com/news/2015-09-17/air-defense-exercise-month-911-was-based-around-osama-bin-laden-carrying-out-aerial-attack-washington
Kempe,
The first lesson to learn in this on-going propaganda war is not to believe anything you read in the press, nor on the internet, nor what you hear on the radio, nor see on TV if it is in any way possibly associated with the on-going War on Terror.
The second lesson is to treat all “news” objectively with no political bias, and question it, from different perspectives. For example – would any group (political or otherwise) gain any advantage by deliberately lying – even faking the reported event.
The third lesson is not only to use your own common sense, but most people have analytical skills, which they have learnt as a result of their education and experience -it might be in science, engineering, mathematics, photography, criminology, psychology, politics, history, theatre (or in some cases – all of these).
I certainly could not see any obvious political objective in faking the Glasgow bin lorry crash nor the Shoreham air crash, and have not taken a great deal of interest in either events. To fake these events would not be easy – and what exactly would be the point? However, to me in both events, some of the photography – looks like it was faked. In some cases the photography is just too good. Whilst I accept that with mobile phones, cameras are prolific, it is still exceedingly difficult to have cameras in position to photograph these events as they happen. Even if chance resulted in such photographs being taken during the actual event – does the content of the photography look legitimate? It may well be that the event was real – but that the photography was faked. I am convinced that at least in still photography – photoshop – or more advanced tools are used extensively by the press to portray real events – even when there is absolutely no political or other obvious benefit in so doing. Faking video photography is also possible, but more difficult and time consuming.
Most people believe everything they are presented with. I recommend not watching TV, as it is the most powerful propaganda weapon ever invented. Watching TV has a measurable effect on the brain. The brain switches to a different state, where critical analysis is largely disabled. Its like the normal filters in real life, have been removed. The presented content (often skillfully produced propaganda) simply goes straight to memory. Switch channels (and it is the same “news”). So it must be true?
But does it make sense? Does it comply with the laws of physics? If it doesn’t, then its not true.
Tony