Total Bollocks From MI5 353


In the last decade, now 7/7 has dropped out of this statistic, only one person has been killed in the UK by an Islamic terrorist attack. Let me repeat that. In the last decade, one person has been killed in the UK by an Islamic terrorist attack. That unfortunate death was Lee Rigby.

Rigby’s tragic murder illustrated how easy it is for terrorists to commit an outrage. Two very disorganised Nigerian nutters murdered him with knives. Unfortunately, if a couple of nutters decide to go at someone on the street, they have a high chance of success.

Which is why you would have to be a lunatic actually to believe MI5’s repeated claims during the last decade that there are thousands of dedicated terrorists out there, fanatical determined and organised, but in a decade of constant effort they have succeeded in killing nobody else. There were, MI5 claim, six actual terrorist plots this year but fortunately MI5 saved all of us.

If you believe MI5’s stories, there are two possibilities. The first is that we have security services of a quite incredible efficiency, able to foil random terrorism, generally regarded as near impossible. The second is that we have thousands of dedicated terrorists of such incredible ineptitude that they can’t manage to kill anybody, even when they could choose any random undefended target in the entire UK and any method from knives to poison to hit and run to shooting to bombs, and don’t mind losing their own lives in the attempt. We have rubbish terrorists.

There is of course a third possibility – that these thousands of dedicated terrorists and these scores of foiled plots in the last decade were inventions, or at least the grossest exaggerations, by the security services. A number of fantasists have indeed been convicted and jailed. But the only, single, potential attacker in recent years who actually possessed a viable bomb was a British army soldier with a hatred of Muslims. And naturally he was not counted as nor convicted as a terrorist. Terrorists are Muslims.

The famous “liquid bomb plot”, in which it eventually transpired, unreported by mainstream media, that there were in fact no bombs and no plane tickets and the suspicious chemical found in baby bottles was Milton sterilising solution for baby bottles, is perhaps the best example.

But of course, lots of people are convicted of terrorism. Indeed law after law has stretched the definition of terrorism so far that I am almost certainly guilty of it just by publishing this blogpost. Meanwhile the Government is concentrating on bullying universities and students to ban speakers who say exactly the kind of thing I am writing here, speakers who protest against the detention and harassment of Muslims, and the continued policy of bombing Muslim countries and killing civilians.

Because there is almost no Islamic terrorism in the UK. It is virtually non-existent. It is not the true reason the corporate state wants ever more surveillance power, ever more restriction on freedom of speech and even, in universities, freedom of thought. Do not be fooled. Fight back.


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  • lysias

    Not just IRA money, drug money too. Banks Launder Billions of Illegal Cartel Money While Snubbing Legal Marijuana Businesses:

    The failure of both the vigilantes and the army to quell the cartel’s carnage is a direct result of the huge profits that the drug trade generates. Cartel leaders can continue hiring and arming their combatants because it’s worth the expenditure; the illegal drug trade accounts for around 8 percent of all international trade. One of the primary reasons that cartels retain their enormous power is that well-known and popular banks are supporting their finances.

    Bank of America, Western Union, and JP Morgan, are among the institutions allegedly involved in the drug trade. Meanwhile, HSBC has admitted its laundering role, and evaded criminal prosecution by paying a fine of almost $2 billion. The lack of imprisonment of any bankers involved is indicative of the hypocritical nature of the drug war; an individual selling a few grams of drugs can face decades in prison, while a group of people that tacitly allow — and profit from — the trade of tons, escape incarceration.

    (Links at original).

  • Peter Beswick

    Mi5 is toxic, the Conservative government is toxic, the Labour government was toxic, the British justice is toxic and I’m a fucking fool for putting up with it.

  • Shiek Hazzi Fazood à la ackbar

    @Fedup 5:00, the pattern described in the Mail, while overly dramatized, is routine. Informants and high-value terrorists are entirely interchangeable. Informants have a short shelf life, since they’re promptly shunned as lunatics. If you’re no good at inciting terror, then your CIA handlers just frame you for some. The elder al Awlaki was repeatedly entrapped with fake whores and became a weird, bumbling provocateur before turning into public cyber-enemy number one. The purported mastermind of the Boston Marathon bombing put on a corny jihadi minstrel show in Boston before authorities blew him up. The whole time FBI agents were all over him like a cheap suit. Mad bomber Timothy McVeigh was floundering around in Elohim City, a potted terror cell where dozens of government provocateurs provoked each other until one poor sap, McVeigh, got picked to be the perp. CIA infiltrated the 9/11 hijackers into the country and repeatedly saved their bacon as they blundered around in cartoonish terror antics. It’s about as funny as armed state attacks on the civilian population can be.

  • Clown Posse

    Were they crap at their job or was that their job?

    Apparently they are all just “incompetent”

    Over and Over. Again and again.

    “Apparently”.

  • RobG

    Silvio said: “IMHO, It was more like Cheney and his junior partner Boy George tore it to shreds first. Maybe Obama is just helping stomp the shredded remains into the dirt:”

    Fair point, but my point would be that Bush junior was probably the most right wing president the US has ever had. Obama was elected in late 2008, and was sworn in early 2009, on what the Americans call a ‘liberal’ ticket. Instead of overturning the headcase stuff of the Bush presidency, Obama has taken it even further. Democracy in America probably died on New Year’s Eve 2011, when Obama signed section 1021 of the NDAA into law (what with Fukushima and the Arab uprisings, 2011 was quite a year!). Since then Obama & Co have got even worse.

  • Lance Vance

    Won’t be long until they try and legislate for further curtailment of online activity, by that I mean social media. Won’t be long before ALL online activity will be subject to heavy regulation or intercept, even games consoles, which have huge online game chat and communication.

  • pete fairhurst

    Excellent post and excellent advice in the final paragraph.

    How anybody can believe the MI5 BS that the main media pumped out today is beyond me. It is such blatant propaganda that it is almost laughable. Well it would be if it wasn’t such a serious attempt to condition people to accept even more security laws. How many laws do they need?

    I wonder even there has even been one terrorist killing in the last 10 years.

    The Rigby story is certainly not straightforward. The images shown on the TV news that night were ridiculous. The blood on the killer’s hands looked like ketchup, or stage blood, or Photoshop. And there was no blood on his clothes. Even though he was said to have beheaded Rigby! The bystanders looked unconcerned even though they were stood right next to a vicious killer holding his weapon and with the body in the street nearby! And both perps survived being shot by a police armed response unit! When was the last time that happened? That’s got to be a first hasn’t it?

    Some other commenters are obviously savvy about this hard to believe tale. I don’t buy the story either. So I would put the 10 year body count at zero.

  • lysias

    Businesses would not be happy with further curtailment of online activity. So much commerce depends upon such activity.

  • Herbie

    “As for Questioning the establishment…How the Fk did James O’Brien get a job at bbC news ?.. Well Done James for grilling Daniel Kawczynski MP on Saudi arms sales –

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi5z4M5dm4o

    Looks combative and alternative, Brian, doesn’t it.

    Later a very intelligent senior Tory MP disagreed with Kawczynski as well.

    Looks as though Kawczynski is the wrong side of elite policy.

    I’m afraid the BBC are being very consistent here, supporting elite interests, as ever.

  • Habbbakuk (la vita e' bella!)

    Clown Posse

    “I think his point might have something to do with the fact that few, if any (correct me if I’m wrong here, whydontcha) of those other “several million Londoners and quite a large number of tourists” were the “Prime Minister of Zionist Israel”, nor the “Mayor of New York on 9-11″ (when “the world changed!!”)”
    ________________

    1/. It’s kind of you to try to help but on reflection I should prefer to hear from our Transatlantic Friend himself what his point was.

    2/. Well, obviously there was only one PM of Israel and one former Mayor of New York in London on 7/7. What I was seeking to understand is what point our Transatlantic Friend was trying to make by telling us these two people were in London on 7/7.

    Not that I’m holding my breath, of course.

  • RobG

    @Herbie, loved the Philip Glass (and I started listening to it against the backdrop of a huge electrical storm in my neck of the woods).

    Does anyone else have suggestions for ‘MI5/6 music’?

    Recorded back in the 1970s, but so prescient (I think our resident troll is the one on the left)…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L5p-4K9J1s

  • Kenny

    “In some ways she was far more acute than Winston, and far less susceptible to Party propaganda. Once when he happened in some connexion to mention the war against Eurasia, she startled him by saying casually that in her opinion the war was not happening. The rocket bombs which fell daily on London were probably fired by the Government of Oceania itself, ‘just to keep people frightened’. This was an idea that had literally never occurred to him.”

  • lysias

    I was responding to the question (asked earlier in this thread): “Wasn’t Netanyahu in London for 7/7?”

  • Habbbakuk (la vita e' bella!)

    “Peter Beswick”

    “Mi5 is toxic, the Conservative government is toxic, the Labour government was toxic, the British justice is toxic and I’m a fucking fool”

    ____________________

    The first four of those five propositions are debatable.

  • KingOfWelshNoir

    Watching the head of MI5 on the news banging on about the record number of terror plots his outfit have foiled this year is like watching Stalin’s ever more fantastical claims for annual Soviet tractor production. BBC have totally abandoned any pretence to journalism. Just stenography. How ironic that any time they report on North Korea there is a permanent sneer in the tone of their voices. They are no better.

  • lysias

    By the way, 7/7 occurred during a time when Netanyahu was not prime minister. He was prime minister earlier, and became prime minister again after. But, at the time of 7/7, he was Finance Minister in a cabinet headed by Sharon. He was ostensibly in London to attend an economic conference organized by the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange (TASE) in collaboration with the Israeli embassy and Deutsche Bank.

    At the time, Giuliani was also no longer mayor of New York City, only a former mayor. He was also ostensibly in London to attend that same conference.

    According to a report by the Associated Press correspondent in Jerusalem (AP July 7, 2005), the Israeli embassy in London had been advised by Scotland Yard of an impending terror event, suggesting that there was advanced knowledge of the planning of the 7/7 bomb attack by the British Home Office. Netanyahu allegedly was warned by his embassy in London not to attend the economic conference.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/was-there-advanced-knowledge-of-the-7-7-london-bomb-attacks/31748

  • Peter Beswick

    Perhaps Mi5 were organising a thanatophile evening on 7/7 hosted by Blair, maybe that’s why they were all in town. I wonder if Craig’s shill was invited, perhaps he provided the tissues.

  • Clown Posse

    Does anyone else have suggestions for ‘MI5/6 music’?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VuDjJ9KIxM

    The Police – Invisible Sun

    Manager Myles Copeland, the Turd

    Miles Axe Copeland III (born May 2, 1944) is an American entertainment executive, best known for founding I.R.S. Records. His brother, Stewart Copeland, was part of the pop-rock trio The Police, which Miles managed. Another brother, Ian Copeland, was a successful booking agent who described much of the New Wave adventures of Miles, Stewart and himself in his book, Wild Thing.

    Career

    Miles was born in London, UK, to Miles Axe Copeland, Jr., a CIA officer from Birmingham, Alabama, United States, and Scottish Lorraine Adie, who was in British intelligence. Due to Miles Jr.’s profession, the family moved throughout the Middle East, in particular Syria, Egypt and Lebanon. As a result, Miles and his brothers became fluent in Arabic.

    Close enough I reckon

  • lysias

    Miles Copeland the CIA man was something of a musician himself, a professional trumpeter before he joined the OSS and became a spy. For several years in the 1950’s, he was the leading CIA man in the Middle East, and was a good friend of Nasser’s.

    Interesting sentence from his Wikipedia entry: “In the introduction to his book ‘Enemy Within’, Guardian journalist Seumas Milne wrote that in the Spring of 1990, Copeland warned British miners union leaders Arthur Scargill and Peter Heathfield that the CIA and MI5 had been involved in kickstarting a media campaign against them and helped to frame corrupt allegations against them.”

  • lysias

    Copeland was one of the most influential advisers who persuaded Eisenhower to oppose the British/French/Israeli action against Nasser at Suez in 1956.

  • Clown Posse

    Kinda Zionist when you think about it

    Like when Golda Meir says “Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us”

  • Habbbakuk (la vita e' bella!)

    [ Mod: Caught in spam-filter at 19:55, timestamp updated by a few hours ]

    ————

    “Some claim one of the Rigby killers was linked to MI5.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22664468

    ____________________-

    “some” – I love it!

    Posters who start off like that usually share the view of those mysterious “some” but haven’t got the balls to come out with the same shit as their own opinion.

    Ah, the courage of the keyboard warrior!

  • Clown Posse

    Habbbakuk (la vita e’ bella!)

    17 Sep, 2015 – 9:51 pm

    Habbbakuk, habibi, the London 7/7 bombings were quickly described as “London’s 9-11!!”

    Bibi Netanyahu’s first reaction when asked about the events of 911 was

    Asked tonight what the attack meant for relations between the United States and Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister, replied, “It’s very good.”

    Then he edited himself: “Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy.” He predicted that the attack would “strengthen the bond between our two peoples, because we’ve experienced terror over so many decades, but the United States has now experienced a massive hemorrhaging of terror.”

    As stated Rudie Gulliani was Mayor of NY on 9-11

    when Bibi “9-11 was very good” NuttinYahoo turns up in London on the day of “London’s 9-11” in the company of “NY’s 911 Mayor,” with both attending the very same security conference, well, some people think that is worthy of note.

    Not you obviously.

    but some people do –

    You’re just gonna have to live with that, I’m afraid

    That’s a lot of 9-11’s

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