The appalling President Karimov of Uzbekistan does not mellow in old age. He has just given a speech in which he describes homosexuality as a “vile western phenomenon.” The only news report I can find adds that he said:
“If a man lives with a man, or a woman with a woman, I think that something there isn’t quite right, or some change has happened,”
I am told by someone who was present that he went on to order a still harsher clampdown on gays by the authorities. I have personal friends who were taken in by police and severely tortured for being gay in Uzbekistan. Yet the British Home Office still routinely refuses claims by gay Uzbek asylum seekers.
Homosexuality was in fact an accepted feature of Uzbek society until colonial occupation by European Russians (something which many other of my Uzbek friends find hard to accept, but undoubtedly true). Karimov’s assertion is therefore the diametric opposite of the truth.
Giyane I chuckled when I saw your David Cameron EU-in-Out poster. Alas David Cameron is now rapping lyrical of the benefits of the EU, and foremost the 2003 Le Touquet Treaty.
The PM, has indicated a EU exist will see the French dissolve the agreement which could lead to the Calais Jungle camp repositioned to Kent.
In bartering for a better deal by threatening the EU that the UK would cut ties, if a reshuffling of powers weren’t forthcoming, the PM has set in motion the giant wheel of propaganda to leave the EU.
And like Kaiser Wilhem II and the onset of WWI, the PM may not be able to stop it now, as inertia takes over.
Fedup,
MI6/SIS have no connection to Tommy Robinson. The Quilliam Foundation, however….
“MI6/SIS have no connection to Tommy Robinson”
Isn’t that op more MI5’s territory?
Or, is it a Met run thing.
And who’s running their dancing partner, UAF.
The western “acceptance” of it is vile. It is simply wrong. I say this as I take my morals from The “Abrahamic” faith (Actually, Adamic faith). Its clearly forbidden and I shall not challenge God. If you don’t believe in God, then I can understand if you see things differently.
The Quilliam Foundation. lol
If they ever got close to “counter-extremism” the government would have to lock them up before they where locked up themselves.
If your reading this, gov, it’s you promoting the wost extremism, invading and running the biggest state terror campaigns in the world.
Blame Islam, when you fund the most extreme elements you created, duplicitous bastards, mass murder enablers. Government is the monopoly on violence and “legitimizes” it’s use. I can’t think of more destructive or extreme institutions, institutions of continual death and brutality.
Blind nationalist killers. Think-tank about that.
“MI6/SIS have no connection to Tommy Robinson. The Quilliam Foundation, however….”
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I don’t know how much faith, you still put in Guardian articles, Craig, but this one appears to back up your hypothesis.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/12/tommy-robinson-quilliam-foundation-questions-motivation
Only a pro-Islam, leftist shill would claim that Tommy Robinson is an agent of SIS.
For others, there is this – http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?rh=n%3A67%2Ck%3Aenemy+of+the+state&keywords=enemy+of+the+state&ie=UTF8&qid=1454958044&sr=8-1-acs
@RoS
That’s an old story overtaken by other developments and stories.
For visitors to Amazon, read the reviews of Tommy Robinson’s book.
“That’s an old story overtaken by other developments and stories.”
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It is indeed an old story, Jemand, I was merely confirming Craig’s hint that Robinson, had or has links to the Quilliam Foundation.
I would however be greatful Jemand if you could tell us the latest ongoings on the matter, since you seem well informed.
Thanks in advance.
Very true Craig. Recollecting that Tommy Robinson/Andrew McMaster (Stephen Yaxley-Lennon his real name) repudiated edl* the organisation he set up to go and join the Quilliam Foundation that was set up by the war criminal Tony bLiar.
I am sure you have seen the packages aired on ITV news etc of his reappearance in Koln/cologne demonstration on the “mass sexual molestation” during the New year celebrations.
Given the history of the orchestration of the far right extremist groups by the MI6 in particular in Germany based on the declassified papers.
We can safely assume that he is currently busy with organisation and liaising, given his track record. Clearly we cannot find court admissible evidence however as the events of the weekend reflected in huff post:
Again from the huff post
The independent carries
Former EDL leader Tommy Robinson will launch UK Pegida
Note the Middle-class forming the new target audiences!!
* just before he was sent down for his misdemeanour’s
Lwtc
I’ve often said it here, there cannot be a gene for homosexuality if God the Creator has forbidden it. On His heart is written mercy.
Muslim brothers sometimes ask me if it was their presence that drew me to Islam. Well no it was the excesses of feminism and the injustices of child custody law that drew me to Islam. As a teenager I was about as confused as they come, raised amongst the sons of the very rich and very venal, and I used to read horoscopes looking for answers.
Divorce led me to the Gospels, where I was surprised to read that public school lore that anyone can pinch your girlfriend is not Christian teaching. The Gospels say that that is an ask too far. You don;t have to put up with that – even though every single one of the major institutions of the UK told me I should, the Church, my family, the medical profession, the law and my contemporaries in high and low society.
When I moved to Birmingham I discovered that there were Muslims living in England, going to the mosque and believing in Allah. So I thought they must represent in person everything that the Qur’an and Islam called for. Na Be, no such luck. Racism, greed, female grooming, booze, interest, drugs, spying, duping, misogyny, CIA indoctrination,scam and blag, being the main day to day problems.
In our civilisation adult promiscuity sexualises the child, by breaking down trust.
Where a sexualised child comes into contact with the extraordinary racism of the Muslims living here, abuse occurs. There is already in the western child a toxic cocktail of revenge, searching for affection, breaking away from your own society, breaking away from poverty and ignorance. Add that to the cocktail of Muslim vices and you will get a lawless, third entity which is collectively rebelling against the ills of both societies.
Since I 100% believe that nurture , or lack of it , is the driver of misbehaviour I find it hard to judge the sexual weaknesses of my own society, but I am extremely intolerant of Muslim greed and deception. In life you learn the hard way of the Gospels statement, Judge not lest ye be judged. It’s a hard process to grow your patience with the fact that individual experience is the driver of our actions, and individual experience differs between cultures.
Psychosis is not knowing you’re crazy. Disbelief is not misbehaviour but the extreme position of refusing to accept that God has the right to make the rules for His creatures. Repentance is the process of reconciling the actions with the rules and God can change everyone who actually wants to bring the two things together, if He wills. what I am personally unable to accept in others I can and do ask Allah to help me to be reconciled to. It can be instantaneous for the answer to hit my consciousness. Or sometimes takes a bit longer…
Anon1
“The dirty dozen will love this because they can say of the Karimov regime, “Western-backed”.”
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Didn’t take Herbie long, did it (17h45) 🙂
Herbie
““MI6/SIS have no connection to Tommy Robinson”
Isn’t that op more MI5’s territory?
Or, is it a Met run thing.”
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None of those, Herbie.
It’s just a silly little bit of nonsense rattling around in that empty head of yours.
Musn’t believe everything Fedup tells you.
That’s strictly for the peeps.
Nothing surprising there really.
Sorted.
fedup
“Note the Middle-class forming the new target audiences!!”
The middle classes might be priveledged but they are probably much more f(&(8&)d up that the higher or lower strata.
Own up to your own silent brain fart. We each of us have our own cultural and personal baggage to deal with and no-one can pin all or even any of the blame on a different or other, culture or class. we see the world through our own moral/mental lens – it’s ours!
This is the starting point for humble and intelligent discussion – how lost we really all are.
Mrs Thatcher stated from the Christian pulpit that every person is responsible for themselves => economically.
But the prophets of the true religion of Islam,Abraham, Moses Solomon, Jesus Muhammad, peace and God’s mercy be upon them all equally, were not primarily talking about economics, so she managed to put all religion in reverse..
Steve Bell cartoon link above – please refer.
“Counter-extremism thinktank’s decision to ally itself with former EDL leader is viewed by many as a high-stakes gamble”
Seems totally natural to me in a country with white a supremacist establishment.
“Tommy describes growing up on the streets of Luton, a town plagued by Islamic extremism”…
Guy obviously has a big imagination. Iv lived in a few places with large Muslim populations, and not once heard anyone even speak the phrase, NEVER. We had Irish “terrorism” once, or blow-back to ours, but in my experience most Muslims know just how racist a minority are and stay well away from these bastards promoting race devision…
I hope he was here getting humiliated. http://wire.novaramedia.com/2016/02/post-dover-5-reflections-on-antifascism-today/
I can’t stand em, in their football clothes, polo shirts, football identities, supporting jingoistic state violence against people with darker skin who have ‘other’ cultures.
ALL the violence i’v been victim of in the UK is by pale faced ass holes like this. Not Muslims, Africans, etc, but other “white” violent cunts who glory in it. Tickle down from those who cheer for war, promote gangster culture etc…
“God has the right to make the rules for His creatures”
That’s pretty much the way elites look at it.
Quite good at god invention as well, and football teams for those of a more material disposition.
Light the blue touch paper, and retire behind a curtain.
Fedup
Will you never let up with that constant stream of drivel of yours? I really begin to wonder if you’re not on here in order to discredit the blog and through that its founder…..
Anyway, to your latest screech.
“Given the history of the orchestration of the far right extremist groups by the MI6 in particular in Germany based on the declassified papers.”
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Which declassified papers? Is it so difficult to name them? Can we see them at the same place you saw them? Which place was that?
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“We can safely assume that he is currently busy with organisation and liaising, given his track record. Clearly we cannot find court admissible evidence..”
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No, I’m sure you can’t find evidence. But don’t let that stop you, you monkey, it doesn’t usually, does it.
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7;44 ps.
And they treat women like shit. Yea I know it’s generalization, but we all know that type. Isolated pathetic individuals who beat up on others to feel big.
Tools of the corporations who feed them a daily diet of none thought. Primarily run out of US corporate ‘white’ fascist finance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkES4anCYOw
Herbie
“Quite good at god invention as well, and football teams for those of a more material disposition.”
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You mean football for the peeps, Herbie?
Or perhaps the sheeple?
What’s your poison – hearing secret harmonies?
Bread and Circuses.
But, easy on the Bread.
Piss off troll!
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Manifestly you have not read the links, nonetheless felt the need to pontificate.
Speaking of bread and circuses, I was interested to read recently that the poet Juvenal was stationed as a military tribune in Britain.
That’s just taking the piss.
@RoS
I think Craig meant an association between MI5 and Quilliam, which seems plausible to me. Robinson fell out with Quilliam stating that he was being used. There were dodgy financials and politics.
Lately you would know he founded Pegida UK, they had a modest rally in Birmingham 3 days ago, free of incidents. Just had an interview/debate live on Al Jazeera, they clearly weren’t expecting him to be so well prepared. The host was caught out baiting him and the repeat broadcast was censored – all available on YouTube.
If you’re interested in sizing him up, see his address to the Oxford Union.
When will they realise it’s them doing it, primarily, it’s why they see these portions/elements in other cultures and ‘fancy them the whole’. Hearts of darkness see only dark…
These things are exactly what people in our establishment and culture do, degrade women, use violence as a primary and largely only sort of language. Nothing changes, for centuries Britain has been like this. And they revel in it, think this a great country…
Reminds me I must read a book a friend told me of. To Hell or Barbados.
Uzbekistan benefits from lobbying through organizations such as the British Uzbek Society* and the Uzbek-British Trade and Industry Council** (UBTIC).
Co-founded by the Uzbek embassy in London and including prominent British MPs as members, the British Uzbek Society bills itself as promoting cooperation in business, education, and the arts. As the report points out, the society’s president, Lord Frederick Ponsonby, is famous for once hailing a parliamentary election in dictatorial Uzbekistan as “independent,” while another member, academic Shirin Akiner, “produced a report that absolved the Karimov regime from responsibility for the 2005 Andijan massacre in which security officials opened fire killing several hundred protesters.”
The society’s members include oil companies like Exxon Mobil and Tethys Petroleum, leading the Corporate Europe Observatory to describe it as an “UK-Uzbek friendship association with a whiff of petrol.”
Energy companies like BP, Exxon Mobil, and Shell are also members of the UBTIC, a trade association spearheaded by the British and Uzbek governments. Another member is Uzbekistan’s state cotton industry association, Uzpakhtasanoat, and the report highlights UBTIC’s links with Uzbekistan’s controversial cotton sector, “despite the continued coercion by the state of slave child and adult labor in the Uzbekistan cotton harvest.”
http://www.eurasianet.org/node/71701
*Members, including corporates, of this registered charity here –
http://british-uzbek.org/about-us/index.html
** I have always wondered why Blair*** wasn’t more supportive of Karimov. After all, he’s a great friend of Nazarbayev, next door. But here’s the list of members of the FCO-sponsored supporters’ club, and Cherie Blair’s Omnia Strategy is #118.
http://www.ubtic.org/members/british-members/
UEA? Fleetwood Town FC? The mind boggles. But I can quite see why the FCO figured Craig was a bit of a hazard to comfortably amoral business inteests.
***Sorry again, Mods. But he’s like something supenaturally pervasive from a Philip K Dick book. I fully expect his profile to start appearing on the coinage.
I think this message board is all the fault of the immigrants and welfare scroungers.
This is complete BS:
“Opposition fighters in Aleppo’s besieged east have said they are counting on the military support of Arab states, which announced they will send ground forces to Syria to save them from defeat at the hands of Russian bombers and pro-Assad militias.”
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/08/russians-will-kill-us-syrian-opposition-forces-await-arab-support
How people fall for this propaganda is beyond me.
This is the tail wagging the dog scenario, Syrian Assad dissed the al saud pederasts pretty bad, and it narked their most excellent temper. Five years later, they have gone to IMF for loans as the price of oil is plummeting and the expenses of keeping the mercenaries in Syria, Yemen, Iraq and Bahrain is way too expesnive and all that money and nothing not a sausage to show for it.
Hence the al saud pederasts are huffing and puffing to blow down the whole fiasco with their sword dancers!!! Yesterday there was a rumour that 150 thousand armed soldiers were getting mobilised to go to Syria through Turkey! This was pretty quickly and comprehensively denied by the Turks! Ottomans ended up with a stamp sized country and now they find that could end up getting cropped into even a smaller size stamp.
The whole episode is an awfully amateur production, in trying to get Syrians into stopping their onslaught on the terrorists sponsored by thee pederasts.