216 thoughts on “The Great Certainty

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  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    “…apartheid, land grab and the continual murder of children.”
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    Is that your characterisation of Israel, Craig? Seriously?

  • MerkinScot

    Obama actually seemed reasonable when he was a contender, at first.
    However, in order to get elected he had to get the AIPAC say-so.
    That was when he sold out.

  • MerkinScot

    Fortunately, for the Palestinians, the BDS campaign is effective and shows that we can do something to halt the slow genocide.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    So both front-running candidates are going to speak to AIPAC, a powerful US Jewish lobby.

    Are you criticising the candidates for accepting the invitations, or criticising AIPAC for having invited them, or both?

    To which other powerful lobbies (if any) do you believe US Presidential candidates should not speak?

    (Afterthought: perhaps Lysias, our man on the ground, could take a little time off from his reading and join in?)

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Merkinscot

    “Fortunately, for the Palestinians, the BDS campaign is effective and shows that we can do something to halt the slow genocide.”
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    Misuse of the word “genocide” yet again, even if qualified by the adjective “slow”.

    A misuse made worse by the fact that it mist be the only “genocide” in recorded history where the target population increases rather than decreases.

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    For the record, the BDS campaign is rather ineffective and will shortly become more ineffective still once new govt legislation regarding local councils has come onto effect.

  • Daniel

    To paraphrase Chomsky, “The United States is a single ideological state in which two competing party political factions vie for power.”

  • fedup

    It is high time everyone of us started to handing out demerits to any of the lickspittles who are all too ready to genuflect to all thing aipac et al. The horrible actualities on the ground for the last seventy years ought to have come to an end by applications of any standards of evil.

    Alas as we witness today the horrible occupation of the Palestine and the on going genocide of Palestinians still continue under the auspices of the unhinged sole superpower that is blocking any kind of progress in the direction of resolution of this unacceptable and inhuman apartheid, land theft and genocide.

    The latest event in the US are telling of the continuation of the trends of the last seventy years, with an addition of setting the scene in the mideast to precipitate an epochal conflagration that will come to harm the humanity as a whole.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Daniel

    “Ok, ethnic cleansing. Happy now?”
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    My only comment there, Daniel, would be that it must be the only ethnic cleansing in recorded history which has left the target population in situ more numerous than before.

    Feel free to try again, of course.

  • deepgreenpuddock

    I am beginning to think of armageddon. all those strange american clergymen might just be right after all.
    Deeply nauseous at the thought of such people being elevated to positions of great power and influence .
    the thing is if trump actually gets the nomination he is in with a chance.FFS
    I am somewhat mesmerised by his ascendancy. I have a very strong sense that he is some kind of blithering idiot gifted with a genius for self-promotion (to a cohort of people).
    I expect i wil be rounded up and put into Guantanamo for this comment if he ever becomes president.
    God help you Craig. Yu’ll be destined for the super secret institute of excruciating revenge torture for insulters of the Great Donald. Still you might have a nice if brief chat with Alex Salmond as you await your fate. Is like politics becoming a Charlie Chaplin film.

  • Ben-Mysogyy is my name

    Hmmm. Trump exemplifies the problem with democracy. When avarice is lauded with the same vigor as courage under fire, and cash is seen as an entity with civil liberties such as Speech within elements of freedom, then humans become irrelevant in the face of abstractions treated as equals under the Constitution.

    Freedom also means FREEDUMB if you prefer it as a free entity.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    Fedup

    “..the on going genocide of Palestinians”
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    There is no genocide of Palestinians, Fedup – ongoing or otherwise.

    You are making the common mistake of misusing the word for your own obsessive ends.

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    Here’s a suggestion: why don’t you ask Craig whether he thinks there is or has been a genocide, slow or fast or whatever you like?

    You see, Fedup, the trouble with nutters like you using words like “genocide” wrongly – and tendentiously – is that the ordinary reader will read it, think to himself “what a nutter” and immediately discount anything else of greater merit you might wish to say.

  • Ben-Mysogyny is my name

    Amid all the accusations that Hillary Clinton is not an honest or authentic politician, that she’s an endless shape-shifter who says whatever works to get her to the next primary, it’s important not to lose sight of the one truth she’s been telling, and will continue to tell, the voters: things will not get better. Ever.

    At first, I thought this was just an electoral ploy against Sanders: don’t listen to the guy promising the moon. No such thing as a free lunch and all that. But it goes deeper. The American ruling class has been trying to figure out for years, if not decades, how to manage decline, how to get Americans to get used to diminished expectations, how to adapt to the notion that life for the next generation will be worse than for the previous generation, and now, how to accept … … low to zero growth rates as the new economic normal.

    Clinton’s campaign message isn’t just for Bernie voters; it’s for everyone. Expect little, deserve less, ask for nothing. When the leading candidate of the more left of the two parties is saying that — and getting the majority of its voters to embrace that message — the work of the American ruling class is done.

    Corey Robin

    Well said. But she’s the next POTUS.

  • Daniel

    Habbab….There is no causal relationship between ethnic cleansing and population growth….Next.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    This is off-topic but so shocking as to be important.

    “The troll {our Transatlantic Friend’s name for me}would be well advised to read carefully the last paragraphs of the Hett piece to which I have linked, where Hett rightly insists on the moral importance of assigning the blame for the Reichstag Fire where it properly belongs, with the Nazis.”
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    Our Transatlantic Friend agrees with Mr Hett (“..rightly insists..).

    So there we have it – it is “morally” important to assign blame for the Reichstag fire to the Nazis.

    Never mind what the facts and the balance of probabilities are – it is “morally” important to put the blame on the Nazis and not onto the author of the fire, one Marinus van der Lubbe.

    Sounds a little like what the Stalinists got up to in the 1930s (and so well described by Arthur Koestler).

    Is this the behaviour of a so-called serious historian and of a CM commenter who wants to be taken seriously?

  • Mayeaux Wren

    Yeah Craig, I’m with Hasbarakuk on this one. Why are you singling out Israel?

    What about Clinton and Trump addressing the powerful Chinese, and Russian, and Indian lobbies? How come you failed to mention that? They have huge land-masses, huge populations, huge economies, and huge global influence and since Clinton and Trump are visiting the Israeli lobby they’ll obviously visit the lobby groups of the three aforementioned. They exist don’t they? If AIPAC doesn’t have to register as a foreign agent then those other countries wouldn’t have to either. And that being the case no doubt Trump and Clinton will attend and sycophantically sing the praises of each of them.

    And you act as if there’s no such thing and that only Israel and Israel alone is feted like this by those who wish to hold office in the US. You’re singling out Israel and are clearly anti-Semitic.

    Just so you understand – Israel is a very small country, with a very small population, and with absolutely no influence on anyone. That’s why America gives it more foreign/military aid than the rest of the world put together. If it had influence, do you see, the US wouldn’t give it all that money. Just like it doesn’t give it to… I don’t know, Burundi say, and other influential countries. You only get bazillions of dollars if you are uninfluential.

    Who was it that said, ‘the meek shall inherit the earth’? I forget but clearly he was talking about Israel. They are perfectly meek, weak, and powerless – entirely incapable of dictating US foreign policy or any other thing. They are the most selfless and self-effacing people ever to have walked the earth and that’s why all the US leaders kneel at their feet and give them everything they never even thought to ask for.

    Hang your head in shame Craig for thinking poorly of them.

    And Hasbarakuk – brownie points for me yeah? You and me brother, we’ll stick up for that paragon of moral virtue, Israel. And may God rend limb from limb for three generations anyone who offers so much as the merest criticism of them. Amalek scum.

  • Daniel

    Habbab conveniently switched the topic. As a reminder to other posters, there is no causal link between ethnic cleansing and population growth. It’s hardly surprising, therefore, that the poster concerned, is an apologist for ethnic cleansing and illegal land grabs. Anybody who is in doubt as to what ethnic cleansing entails, needs to to look up the US State Departments definition of the term.

  • Ben-Mysogyny is my name

    Komo; I wish I wasn’t. I’ve learned that reality can never trump my cynicism.

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    “Habbab conveniently switched the topic.”
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    Not at all, Daniel – you must learn to be patient and await your turn.

    So now: “There is no causal relationship between ethnic cleansing and population growth…”

    Well, ethnic cleansing means getting rid of the target group or nationality from what you consider “your ” territory, doesn’t it. Either by expulsion or by simply killing.

    For example, there was ethnic cleaning going on in most of the former Yugoslav republics in the early 1990s. The result was that at the end of those ethnic cleansings there were fewer Serbs in Croatia, fewer Croats in Serbia and fewer Muslims in marge parts of Bosnia.

    I suggest, therefore, that a target group which has been ethnically cleansed is likely to be smaller than just before it has been ethnically cleansed.

    It is claimed that there is on-going ethnic cleansing in what used to be called Palestine (either in Israel proper, or in the West Bank, or both. However, the Arab population is steadily increasing in both of those territories.

    Therefore the claims of ethnic cleansing are false.

    The question of why those false claims are being made is a matter meriting a separate discussion…..

  • Habbabkuk (la vita è bella)

    “Daniel,

    It is Genocide as per the article II of Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide”
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    Rubbish, Fedup.

  • Daniel

    Again, there is no causal relationship between ethnic cleansing and population growth. To keep repeating the same message indicates that you do not understand what ethnic cleansing means. Here’a clue for you. It’s not the same thing as Genocide. I suggest you look up the US State Dept. definition and then get back to me.

  • Republicofscotland

    Yes I have to agree Craig, both Clinton and Trump, will comply with their Zionist handlers.

    Israel will continue to kill indiscriminately, whilst land grabbing.

    Neither America nor Israel will be held accountable for their neferious actions. The UN, Nato and the EU also turn a blind eye to the warmongering and persecution of the Palestinian people.

    Westminster fairs no better, spending 13 times more on bombing (and killing Libyan civilians), than it spent on rebuilding the country.

  • MerkinScot

    “For the record, the BDS campaign is rather ineffective and will shortly become more ineffective still once new govt legislation regarding local councils has come onto effect.”
    Wrong.
    The increasingly desperate campaign against BDS by the Israeli government shows that the boycott is working.
    Help end the slow genocide, support BDS.

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