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So far 564 people believe they have shared on Facebook my article conclusively refuting the CIA’s invention of lies about Russia hacking the DNC, using the share button on this site. Another 78 have tried to share it from my Facebook page. Between them those 650 people will have. according to the Facebook average, about 200,000 friends. The total amount of incoming traffic from these 200,000 friends? 22 people. Almost nobody can currently reach this site through Facebook, as the “came from” interface on my statcounter below shows. Nothing from Facebook. Facebook are actively colluding in preventing social media from contradicting the mainstream media lies about Russian involvement in the US election campaign.

Don’t believe me? If you think you shared the article on Facebook, phone one of your Facebook friends and ask if it appeared for them.

The only way to defeat this is to republish the article yourself. I waive any copyright. If you have access to a blog, copy and paste it there and post a link to that blog on Facebook. Or simply cut and paste my whole article and copy it to your Facebook page, in sections if required.

I am similarly ghost banned on twitter. The work round to this, which plenty of people have found, is to create a new tweet yourself with a link to my site, rather than retweet one of my tweets. As with the Facebook share, if you do retweet you will be unaware it doesn’t work.

There are profound implications for society in the compliance of the major social media corporations with establishment demands to prevent social media from effectively challenging the mainstream media narrative – and I cannot think of a more classic example than this case. I do urge you to take action as described above, to show that the people will not stand for it.

UPDATE

Calling Facebook out worked, we have just been unblocked! If you contrast this new came from log with the above, you will immediately see the difference – and just how important social media is to a dissident website like this one.


219 thoughts on “Facebook Suppresses Truth

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  • Shatnersrug

    Will do,

    This is just daft. What are the CIA up to?? In less than a month they will have to answer to a new president. This is a massive paranoid face saving exercise by an out going president who’s so paranoid about his “legacy” that he’s prepared to risk making an arse out of the entire establishment.

    • lysias

      Makes sense if they think they can prevent him from becoming president.

      Risky business. The military supports Trump. So does a lot of the business community.

      • Shatnersrug

        Lydia’s,

        Well quite, it’s been fairly clear that the FBI have been partisan to the GOP through the election, and the CIA to the Dems, it all seems so poorly executed though

    • Tom Welsh

      Students of US politics may have reason to believe it’s the other way round: each new President has to answer to the CIA. On pain of death. Eisenhower must bear the heavy responsibility for letting this golem walk free.

    • Darth

      Actually we see very clearly in the site traffic stats that Facebook is imposing an upper limit of 5% of site traffic for any article. This limit was previously 33% of site traffic (sensible so that Facebook doesn’t take your webserver down) and 50% across all articles.

      Like the twitter ghost ban this new Facebook behaviour started during the final weeks of the US election campaign. People can decide for themselves if that is coincidence or not.

  • The G5 did it

    Craig, this happened to me. I posted your CIA article in a group and the post is still there in my line, but mysteriously disappeared from the group’s line… I really am not making this up.

    First time poster here, but I have been reading for a few months now. Keep up the good work.

    N.

  • Martinned

    Yeah, because the alternative explanation, that 22 clicks out of 650-odd shares is still more than you’d expect, is just too inconceivable… Better reach for another conspiracy theory! What’s one more between friends? Why not blame the CIA again? Or, better yet, the NSA? I’m sure they hacked Facebook in a concerted effort to keep you from getting out the truth about their evil machinations!

    • John Spencer-Davis

      Don’t be ridiculous. Craig will have a documented history of how many people access his articles as and when they are shared on Facebook. If the current statistics were roughly equivalent to previous statistics then it would not even have occurred to him that it was an issue.

      • lysias

        Funny how this happened right after the Washington Post and other mainstream outlets had op eds calling on the social media to suppress access to “fake news”.

    • craig Post author

      Martinned,

      You fail to understand. The 650 shares are the number of people sharing, not being shared to. The Facebook average is 330 friends. So those shares ought to have reached 200,000 people. 22 clicks is one in 10,000 or .001%. The norm is about 2.3%

        • Tom Welsh

          Yet again,

          “It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it”.
          – Upton Sinclair

          Actually, wasn’t Martinned the last commenter to cite that? Ironic.

        • Tom Welsh

          In a country where Ardbeg, Balvenie and Glenmorangie are readily available, that’s just plain wrong.

  • Loony

    I wonder of Facebook suppresses stories from the New York Times, and if so which ones. Some suppression is surely essential as otherwise people are going to become deeply confused.

    Here is the NYT from November 25th reporting that the Obama administration considers the outcome of the recent election to “accurately reflect the will of the people”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/25/us/politics/hacking-russia-election-fears-barack-obama-donald-trump.html?_r=0

    How strange then that by December 9th the NYT had reversed its position and ran a story under the headline “Russian Hackers Acted to aid Trump, US Says”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us/obama-russia-election-hack.html

  • Godolphin

    It’s my belief that FB’s algorithms ‘suppress’ all sorts of articles, otherwise we’d be inundated. So not necessarily convinced.

    However it’s uncanny how my wife couldn’t see your re-shared article but an article about the CIA and Russian shenanigans went straight to her feed. Your article appeared if she viewed my profile, if she’d bothered to check.

    • Darth

      Facebook used to regularly recommend Craig’s posts even to people who didn’t follow him. That’s all stopped..

      We have a full year of Facebook stats and we know what sort of visitor numbers to expect. Craig’s posts have a fairly high click through rate but now Statcounter has downgraded our social network traffic rating from A to D. Quite simply the blog cannot break the 5% article traffic limit as Facebook stops showing the shares until incoming traffic drops back below that limit. Let’s be clear – Facebook has sent over 100,000 readers in a day to a post here before and more than 10,000 on multiple occasions. Not now. Not with the ceiling in place.

      • Tom Welsh

        Well, Craig apparently supports the EU, has a poor opinion of Mr Putin and is (as I see it) politically correct in many ways. That kind of material they want to encourage.

        When he once starts to criticize them, however…

  • Sharp Ears

    The front man at Twitter
    ‘Omid R. Kordestani (Persian: امید کردستانی‎‎) is an Iranian-born American businessman who has been the Executive Chairman at Twitter since October 2015. He was previously a Senior Vice President, the Chief Business Officer, and a special advisor to the CEO and founders at Google during July 2014 to October 2015. and was Non-executive Director at Vodafone from March 2013 to October 2014. Kordestani had also previously been at Google from May 1999 to April 2009, reaching the position of Senior Vice President for Worldwide Sales and Field Operations
    Net worth $1.9billion
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omid_Kordestani

    and at Facebook
    Mark Elliot Zuckerberg (born May 14, 1984) is an American computer programmer, internet entrepreneur, and philanthropist. He is the chairman, chief executive officer, and co-founder of social networking website Facebook. His net worth is estimated to be US $55.3 billion as of October 2016, ranking him as the 5th richest person in the world.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg

    Tip. Do not increase their wealth in any way.

    Reminder.
    They Thought They Were Free The Germans 1933-45
    Milton Mayer
    Little by little etc
    http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html

      • Resident Dissident

        I could ask why my rejoinder to Sharp Eyes is put into moderation while the original post to which it clearly relates is not?

    • Habbabkuk

      Two potted bios lifted from Wikipedia and a “reminder” about a bool which no one has mentioned so far.

      As Alcyone remarked in a highly pertinent post which has now strangely disappeared: what is your point?

    • Resident Dissident

      Mods this is a disgrace allowing Sharp Eyes to post a link to Milton Mayer a man with history, but then not allowing me to point out what that history is or how it was rebutted at the time. But hey if you want to pump this shit without any rebuttal please drop any pretence of believing in free speech or human rights.

    • Resident Dissident

      What is meant by “little by little etc” – do you have the courage to explain??

      • Sharp Ears

        Do not pretend not to understand that Mayer is describing the gradual awareness of the creeping fascism.

    • Resident Dissident

      Mods

      Why are the repulsive works of Milton Mayer being linked to? Why are they considered not to be way off topic? Why is there no right of reply?

      • Herbie

        Really.

        Sure it’s not just you trying to close down free speech again.

        “Among the many books written on Germany after the collapse of Hitler’s Thousand Year Reich, this book by Milton Mayer is one of the most readable and most enlightening.”—Hans Kohn, New York Times Book Review”

        That’s The New York Times Book Review, folks.

        “It is a fascinating story and a deeply moving one. And it is a story that should make people pause and think—think not only about the Germans, but also about themselves.”—Ernest S. Pisko, Christian Science Monitor

        That’s the Christian Science Monitor.

        • Resident Dissident

          If anyone’s free speech was closed down it was mine – my link to a contemporary article detailing the case against Mayer and his most infamous article was removed by the Mods in a bold move against free speech on their part.

      • Sharp Ears

        My longer reply to you requesting that the name of Milton Mayer is not besmirched has gone into moderation;he was a decent man who became a Quaker and worked for peace.

        • Sharp Ears

          See Controversies on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Mayer

          and his short note on Chicago Univ Press

          ‘First published in 1955, They Thought They Were Free is an eloquent and provocative examination of the development of fascism in Germany. Mayer’s book is a study of ten Germans and their lives from 1933-45, based on interviews he conducted after the war when he lived in Germany. Mayer had a position as a research professor at the University of Frankfurt and lived in a nearby small Hessian town which he disguised with the name “Kronenberg.” “These ten men were not men of distinction,” Mayer noted, but they had been members of the Nazi Party; Mayer wanted to discover what had made them Nazis.’
          http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/T/bo3626509.html

  • Kief

    Such suppression. Now that CIA is reporting Russia’s hacktivist election victory Trump has begun attacking the agency. Does he have any idea what can happen to him? Maybe he should bite the bullet and announce he will dissolve CIA and give their duty to Military Intel. That went well for JFK. Trumps Kremlin Cabal is composed of paper warriors. They should watch for poison cigars and Port.

    • lysias

      Being the rich man that he is, Trump has been employing private security for some time, as Paul Craig Roberts has informed us. He does not just depend on the Secret Service that so dismally (and suspiciously) failed to protect JFK.

      • Tom Welsh

        It’s far from easy to protect anyone against a projectile fired from hundreds of yards away. That problem is far harder today than it was when Kennedy was killed: there are all sorts of neat little anti-tank missiles and the like that could be fiired from a very long way away and would completely demolish any vehicle. Such as TOW or a Kornet.

    • Herbie

      Always the same with these globalist cnuts.

      Election don’t go their way.

      You have to either rerun it or they’re threatening violence.

      Thank god they’re losing all over the world.

  • writerman

    It’s rather disturbing how quickly basic freedoms seem to be under attack, things we used to take for granted, until we lost them. Brixit and the triumph of Trump has caused shock waves to spread throughout the media and the establishment. Basically a war has started for the hearts and minds of ‘ordinary people.’ Many of the same techniques employed when they wanted to sell our recent wars are now being used domestically, really brazen lies that don’t stand up to scrutiny, basic logic, common sense and verification.

    The great mass of the people have no been identified as the ‘enemy within’, people who are too stupid to be allowed to vote or take part in the democratic process, because they no longer believe a word coming out of the mouths of the political class or the media priesthood. So, they’ve invented a new heresy, it’s called ‘fake news.’ This is ironic, very droll, coming as it does from establishment corporate news platforms that brought us the Iraq War and Tony Blair!

    We look like we’re moving towards a kind of ‘liberal dictatorship.’ What Craig’s describing are two great liberal newspapers, the NYT and the Guardian, that are now printing outrageous conspiracy theories about direct Russian involvement in elections, tipping the scales… without a shred of specific and concrete evidence to back their strories, only wild paranoia and fantasies, which seem to fit the category ‘conspiracy theory’ perfectly, only one won’t see that in the Guardian this time around.

    • bevin

      You are right: the primary source of conspiracy theories (sand of conspiracies) is the government. The theory of Putin throwing the election to Trump is ludicrous in a way that nobody questioning the 9/11 story would think of accepting. It is full of enormous holes and close to the bottom of any rational list of probabilities.
      And yet our resident trolls, usually so quick to fasten on to any sign that the powerful might conspire to maintain their privilege, have nothing to say except, as Martinned does, that to doubt that Putin now elects US presidents for breakfast, is laughable.

        • Loony

          The only conclusion that appears capable of being drawn relates to the contrast between the statement “evidence proves Russian hack” and the actual article which provides limited evidence and zero proof.

          Even if we abandon the need for evidence and just rely on prejudice then the next point of interest is: Did the Russians somehow force Clinton to commit crimes? Did the Russians force Clinton to disregard State Department policy with regard to private e-mail servers? Did the Russians force the Clinton foundation to rob Haiti in the wake of the earthquake (perhaps the Russians caused the earthquake), Did the Russians force the DNC to conspire against Sanders? and did the Russians force people to write about and attend “spirit cooking parties”?

          Exactly what part of the Wikileaks leaks should legitimately have been kept private and out of the public domain? For what reason should the US electorate be kept in ignorance of the many nefarious activities of the DNC in general and Clinton in particular? Is it legitimate for Donna Brazile to provide Clinton with advance information regarding questions and legitimate that this information be kept from the public. Did any of this have anything to do with Russians?

          • Tom Welsh

            Just as there was no evidence Libya was involved in the Lockerbie bombing… no evidence of WMD in Iraq… no evidence that Colonel Qadafi meant to kill civilians… no evidence that anyone in Afghanistan had anything to do with 9/11… no evidence of Mr Assad killing civilians or using poison gas… no evidence of the Russians or Novorossians having shot down MH17. No matter, they simply assert these things as matters of fact and ignore any protests. “We have a mountain of evidence…” as Mr Kerry said. (Although not one shred of that mountain has ever been published).

        • Dave Lawton

          “Read and learn…or not”

          No evidence there just empty words which are Static and gather dust.You really do need to learn about computers and real coding and hacking.Swallow the emptywheel you will swallow anything.

      • Resident Dissident

        “And yet our resident trolls, usually so quick to fasten on to any sign that the powerful might conspire to maintain their privilege”

        Given that Putin has been found providing support to hard right nationalists throughout Europe, why do you think that he would stop at the Atlantic Ocean?

        Posted earlier on the previous thread.

        I very much doubt whether it will be possible to prove one way or the other that Putin threw the election to Trump, but the man has a history of interfering in other countries politics and only a slathering Putinista would claim otherwise.

        • Loony

          Why am I not surprised that you provide zero evidence that Putin supports “hard right nationalists throughout Europe”

          Take a look at past “hard right nationalists” – people like the Nazi’s for example. Presumably you are aware of the devastation inflicted on the USSR by the Nazi;s.

          For what possible reason would Putin be encouraging European “Hard right nationalists” in the light of this history? Presumably your ultimate contention is that Putin is clinically insane and entertains fantasies of mass destruction being unleashed in Russia.

          • Resident Dissident

            “Presumably you are aware of the devastation inflicted on the USSR by the Nazi;s”.

            Of course I am you idiot – I lived in Russia for nearly 5 years and have a Russian wife who lost relatives during the Great War.

            “For what possible reason would Putin be encouraging European “Hard right nationalists”

            Common interests – those who think that Putin is guarding the flames of Marxist Leninism and the good old USSR really have lost touch with reality.

          • Herbie

            Israel, and particularly the Netanyahu group and Bennett, had much interest in a Turmp victory.

            They’ve far many more operatives working in the US agencies that Russia could ever possibly have.

            I suspect the Russia story is a diversion.

            And even if Israel didn’t do it, then Trump has many supporters amongst the US military and FBI who could have easily leaked what they wanted.

            Then the Russia story looks like a means of hiding the splits in the top of the US elites.

            Thgese are far more obvious first calls than that Russia dunnit.

            Which is becoming a bit of a tired old tale now.

          • Loony

            You provide evidence of a Russian bank making a loan to the Front National, and from this you conclude Putin has been found supporting hard right nationalists.

            Here is evidence that HSBC aided the finances of Mexican drug lords, pariah states and terrorists

            https://www.theguardian.com/business/2012/jul/17/hsbc-executive-resigns-senate

            Is it therefore reasonable to conclude that David Cameron has been found supporting drug lords, pariah states and terrorists?

            Or could it be that you hold Russians to a standard that you dare not hold yourself to.

          • Resident Dissident

            “Or could it be that you hold Russians to a standard that you dare not hold yourself to.”

            And why do you think that I don’t want the same standards applied to HSBC and David Cameron – where is your evidence for such a libellous assertion?

        • Herbie

          Israeli operatives are far more likely.

          They’re already inside and have much form in this area.

    • Tom Welsh

      “Brixit and the triumph of Trump has caused shock waves to spread throughout the media and the establishment”.

      Why am I suddenly reminded of this glorious Kenneth Williams vignette:

      “Lord Nelson! Lord Nelson! The sailors are revolting!!”

      “Yeeeeeees, aren’t they?”

  • Sharp Ears

    Trump denies CIA Russia meddling report
    39 minutes ago

    President-elect Donald Trump has said he “doesn’t believe” a CIA assessment that Russian hackers tried to sway the election in his favour.

    In an interview with Fox News being broadcast later, he blamed Democrats for “ridiculous” reports that blamed Russia for the attacks.

    Russian officials have repeatedly denied the hacking accusations.

    Senior Republicans have now joined Democrats in calling for a full investigation into the intelligence.

    Republican Senator John McCain, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said in a joint statement with top Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer and others that the CIA’s report “should alarm every American”.

    The hacks, targeting emails at the Democratic Party and the emails of a key aide to presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, shook the presidential campaign.

    In October, US government officials pointed the finger at Russia, accusing it of meddling in the campaign to undermine the electoral process.

    But on Friday, the intelligence community went further when US media reports said the CIA had “high confidence” that Russians were trying to influence the election in Mr Trump’s favour.

    Russians had hacked the Republican party but chose not to reveal the contents of what they found, the reports said.

    /..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38282533

  • Darth

    As of a few minutes ago the 5% limit seems to have been removed and Facebook traffic has instantly jumped by an order of magnitude to pre-election norms. Interesting…

  • Loony

    The purveyors of fake news regarding Russians either have inside information or they are playing a very dangerous game.

    Given that the source of the leaks was not Russian how do they know that the real source will not out him/herself – perhaps by doing a Snowden and getting themselves somewhere safe prior to making any announcement.

    Alternatively we all die. What happens if the source dies – will there continue to be a need to protect his/her identity?

    • craig Post author

      Loony,

      I have a strong suspicion they actually know who the real source is, and are not moving against them because it would undermine the Russian story. They are probably correctly banking on them not wanting to live a Snowden lifestyle. I fear for their safety, very much indeed.

  • Anon1

    Craig

    Can you confirm that neither you or any of your mods, nor anyone else in charge of this site has ever practiced “ghost banning”?

    • Squonk

      How would they do that as there is no such functionality in WordPress? You can ban or moderate people but there is no setting to make it appear to the user their comment has gone through but not show it to everyone else.

      • John Goss

        Anon1 is well-known for it. Others include Habbabkuk, Resident Dissident, Kempe and a few more recent ones like Martinned and Kief. I could be wrong but would need good evidence to the contrary.

        To get a balance better to read sites like Russian Insider, The Duran, Vineyard of the Saker and watch Russia Today. These are not perfect but they are certainly more accurate than our media which is totally partisan to Reuters and its owners with only a handful of real investigative journalists in its ranks. The integrity of western journalists has been bought by governments and media moguls. Gone are the days when John Pilger was campaigning on behalf of thalidomide victims at the hands of Distillers. Anybody not believing this should take a look at this and bear in mind that the UK is just a colony of the declining US empire.

        http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/10/17/wikileaks-journalists-clinton-staff-homes-before-hillarys-campaign-launch/

        • Resident Dissident

          Mr Goss is well known for his slathering support for Putin – he has yet to utter a word of criticism. All those he accuses of trolling have different political views and have at times expressed criticism of those in authority in the West.

          Last week I posted a link to a Russian Insider post lavishing praise on the Russian fascist Zhironovsky – good to see that this where Mr Goss goes for balance.

        • Tom Welsh

          Quite right, John. I have found those sites usually balanced and credible. Moreover, I generally find that the two dozen or so sites which I trust the most tend to agree about the essential facts, even if their intepretations vary. That in turns justifies my confidence in them.

  • Coilla Drake

    I checked this, it shared ok and could be seen by others. I’ve now deleted it from my timeline.

  • Alcyone

    “Sharp Ears
    December 11, 2016 at 14:27
    The front man at Twitter
    ‘Omid R. Kordestani (Persian: امید کردستانی‎‎) is an Iranian-born American businessman who has been the Executive Chairman at Twitter since October 2015. He was previously a Senior Vice President, the Chief Business Officer, and a special advisor to the CEO and founders at Google during July 2014 to October 2015. and was Non-executive Director at Vodafone from March 2013 to October 2014. Kordestani had also previously been at Google from May 1999 to April 2009, reaching the position of Senior Vice President for Worldwide Sales and Field Operations
    Net worth $1.9billion
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omid_Kordestani

    and at Facebook
    Mark Elliot Zuckerberg (born May 14, 1984) is an American computer programmer, internet entrepreneur, and philanthropist. He is the chairman, chief executive officer, and co-founder of social networking website Facebook. His net worth is estimated to be US $55.3 billion as of October 2016, ranking him as the 5th richest person in the world.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg

    Tip. Do not increase their wealth in any way.

    Reminder.
    They Thought They Were Free The Germans 1933-45
    Milton Mayer
    Little by little etc
    http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html

    Reply ↓

    And so Mary what’s your point????

    • Resident Dissident

      Might I suggest people Google Milton Mayer to see what nice views Sharp Ears is pushing – the Mods will not allow me to post links only Mary is allowed that honour.

      • John Goss

        Even if Sharp Ears is Mary people have been kind enough not to speculate on some of your former aliases, especially when you were using multiple aliases. If Sharp Ears is Mary I say welcome back.

        But to people like you and others I mentioned in a previous comment, some of whom drove Mary from this blog, please show respect and refrain from persecuting. You only discredit yourselves and breach the blog’s guidelines. In short: grow up. 🙂

        • Resident Dissident

          So says our resident promoter of fascism and bombing Aleppo to smithereens.

          Little by little.

  • writerman

    We’re certainly living in ‘interesting times’ as the Chinese ironically described them, though not as something one should wish to experience, more as warning.

    Trump himself is an interesting ‘character’ in a game most people aren’t really aware is being played or unfolding. Because of his vast wealth and position, somewhat like me – though on a far bigger scale – Trump doesn’t have to really give a fuck about most of the bullshit people have to worry about. He’s lived an incredibly priviledged life of wealth and comfort, which allowed him to see how the ‘game’ was played and gave him a degree of insight most people don’t have because they only see a small part of it, the game. Their role and the loop they’re in, endlessly repeating itself. What people think is their lives, their individuality, their freedom. Only it’s a role, almost as if it was written down at birth and alloted to them.

    But a character like Trump can break the rules, up to a point, and challenge his role, the crap lines she’s supposed to repeat. It’s an act, but a dangerous one. Trump wasn’t supposed to win. It was like a rigged wrestling match, Trump was supposed to put on a good show but then take a dive and lose, only for some reason, he didn’t and won. Maybe it was just a whim, but he won.

    Now Trump is being systematically undermined and the legitimacy of his victory is being questioned. Is this a farce or a tragedy? Very powerful forces are lined up against Trump.

    Liberal democracy, is, I would argue, virtually dead and buried. This has profound consequences. Trump surfed on a wave, opportunistically, and rode into the White House. It’s the wave that lifted him up that interesting. That wave frightens the hell out of the ruling elite. The alliance between the Democratic and Republican elites, who both fear Trump far more than each other, shows that ‘democracy’ is, effectively a sham. It’s a choice between one party with two factions who, like professional wrestlers, are acting out a role inside the rules of a game. Trump’s triumph risks revealing too much about the character of the game, which is why he’s dangerous and has to be destroyed.

    • philw

      Agree Trump certainly wasn’t intended to win, and did not expect to win – as evidenced by his utter unpreparedness for victory. He seemed to do everything he could to lose it, breaking every rule in the book of how to get elected. It just wasn’t so easy to take a dive in this particular game.

      I still dont rule out him standing down on some pretext, he likes to win, he won, but does he really want the hassle of running the country? Except these crazy attempts to delegitimise him may bring out the stubborn side

    • craig Post author

      Actually every post is being scrutinised by GCHQ and NSA. Electronically, using various filters to decide what tiny fraction of the traffic gets brought to human attention.

      What did you think that they do with their tens of billions of pounds in budgets and tens of thousands of staff, Kempe?

        • Tom Welsh

          Ah, but treason against whom? The people (and in our case the Queen, God bless her) who are the legal sovereigns – or the entitled .001% who believe they are the real sovereigns?

      • Russ

        “Electronically, using various filters to decide what tiny fraction of the traffic gets brought to human attention.”

        Which is precisely what “controlled by an algorithm” means. But I doubt that blaming it on fuzzy logic software is quite as much of an ego boost as thinking you are being persecuted.

        • Tom Welsh

          Many processes nowadays are normally controlled by algorithms. But that certainly does not mean that there is no provision for the algorithm to be overridden or supplemented by human instructions when required.

      • Kempe

        All 32 million messages sent every minute; sure.

        If you’re so convinced everything is being censored why use it? I’d be delighted if Facebook were doing more to promote truth by taking down pages run by Anti-Vaxxers and quacks promoting MMS but in Zuckerberg’s opinion they don’t breach community guidelines so that’s all right then.

        • Herbie

          Nothing wrong in pointing out that some children have poor immune systems such that multi vaccines are too much for them to cope with.

          But hey, big pharma and money must come first, eh.

          • Habbabkuk

            You need to be careful about what extremists say about medical matters, Herbie.

            The anti-vaxxers have a very sinister agenda.

            And don’t forget that there are people around (they will recognise themselves) who have claimed that HIV and ebola fever are Western plots to decimate the population of Africa and that AIDS medication is either a plot by Western pharma to make money or a plot by Western govts to further decimate the population (note the contradiction in that particular claim).

          • Herbie

            Do you agree or disagree that some children have poor immune systems and multivax is too much for them to bear?

          • Habbabkuk

            Not being medically qualified, Herbie, there is little point me commenting. Are you medically qualified?

      • Habbabkuk

        I am very relaxed about the idea that their budgets and staff numbers are high enough to allow those posts – as well as the posts on here – to be scrutinised (albeit through the use of filters). The tone and contents of many of the posts is, surely, such as to make this an essential exercise. After all, it can only be to the good that the legally constituted authorities should be aware of those who, out of their own mouths, have amply demonstrated their eagerness to see our democratic way of life and our democratic institutions subverted.

        • bevin

          So what exactly do you believe in? Not civil rights, not privacy, not free speech, not the rule of law.. You just believe in the Police, the authorities, the powers that be, the state as nasty officious nanny.

          • Habbabkuk

            I believe in all of those things, Bevs – especially in the rule of law.

            But I realise that a SWP Marxist-Leninist will find it impossible to believe that someone can believe in all of those things while at the same time believing in the police, the authorities, the powers that be (whatever is meant by that lazy catchphrase) and the state.

            Your freedom, your right of free speech (within the confines of the law) and your civil rights are in no way – theoretical or practical – diminished by the fact that the authorities can become aware of what you post on here and in similar places and even who you are.

        • RobG

          Habba said: “After all, it can only be to the good that the legally constituted authorities should be aware of those who, out of their own mouths, have amply demonstrated their eagerness to see our democratic way of life and our democratic institutions subverted.”

          The security services operate totally outside the law.

          What you label as ‘those who are eager to see our democratic way of life and our democratic institutions subverted’ are merely those who point out this stark fact.

          Gawd, I really do lose my faith in humanity when I see just how low people will stoop to earn a buck.

          • Habbabkuk

            Not at all, RobG.

            The true subversives are those – like yourself – who seek, often against all the evidence and certainly in all circumstances – to undermine public trust in the institutions and authorities of our democratic states.

            A good example in your case are your unremitting efforts to deny the reality of various terrorist attacks in France and elsewhere. By so doing, you are not only undermining public trust but also, in effect, indirectly lending comfort to terrorists.

            You have a right to so deny but the authorities have an equal right to be in a position to make themselves aware of that denial.

          • RobG

            Habba, you are entitled to your opinion, as we all are (but not for much longer), but your opinion is of the Kleenex mode.

            The UK security services are totally criminal entities that have to be brought to justice.

            You’ll probably disagree, because you are on the pay roll.

            I’m afraid that for you jolly chaps the party is over.

            Next stop Pentonville Prison.

  • Hmmm

    Craig!!!! Any chance you could get on Facebook group “the sun newspaper is an enemy of the people” and defend yourself, and JA? Would be nice to have it straight from the horses etc

    • RobG

      Assange hasn’t been seen or heard of since early November (when the Pizzagate stuff started breaking) and most likely has been either murdered or blackbagged.

  • RobG

    All the major players online (including most of the so-called ‘alternative media’) are manipulated and controlled.

    Both the faux horror and seeming naivety of some posters on here is perhaps proof of this.

    We now live in a quite horrendous hall of mirrors.

    But it’s all the fault of the immigrants.

    Or the poor and disadvantaged people.

    Or the Russians.

    Or the Martians.

    Or the lizard creatures who control the universe.

    https://theintercept.com/2016/11/26/washington-post-disgracefully-promotes-a-mccarthyite-blacklist-from-a-new-hidden-and-very-shady-group/

    http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.fr/2016/12/threat-to-alternative-media-house.html

  • Anon1

    It’s OK, folks. The conspiracy against Craig was switched off at 15.30. Stand down but maintain vigilance.

    • michael norton

      Could somebody tell Ken Clarke the the days of the Globalist, Liberal Elite is over.
      He can lay down now and STFU

    • RobG

      Today is 11th December.

      450 divided by 11 = 40.9

      Craig Murray was born in 1958.

      1 + 9 + 5 + 8 = 23

      23 is one 666th of 40.9.

      666, the number of the beast.

      Wake-up sheeple!!!

  • John

    Anyone who thinks Microsoft, Google, Facebook, and the rest, were thought up and manifested by scruffy geek-types in a garage probably needs to do a tad more reading.

    Designed, financed, promoted, and run by the alphabet agencies.

    A specialist subject of Sybil Fawlty’s, I believe.

  • Republicofscotland

    I’m of the opinion that Facebook, gives the security services unfetted access to our information, effectively making Facebook a data mining project that gathers huge amounts of information on those who use the platform.

    Just think you are voluntary giving your personal details, and future plans to a platform that allows the security services to retain this data, and if need be use it, (possibly even against you).

    Did you know that once Facebook has you tagged in ONE PHOTO, they have you identified anytime an image of you is uploaded whether it is tagged, labelled, or anything else to ID it.

    Here’s more information on Facebook, and their data gathering techniques, which you might find eye opening.

    http://www.therealnewsonline.com/our-blogs/facebook-and-its-connections-to-the-cia-and-darpa

  • Paul Barbara

    Talking of Lizard creatures (who seem to hunt in fours, and periodically infest this blog), here’s another ‘Face’ of ‘Facebook’:
    ‘UNBELIEVABLE: 8 out of 9 tech companies won’t rule out helping Trump build a national Muslim registry’:
    http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/tell-tech-companies-publicly-refuse-build-trumps-muslim-registry-now/?source=demandprogress&t=3&akid=4974.3125944.wnC7bI

    I am not supporting ‘Demand Progress’, which seems to me a fake ‘Left’ Clinton-supporting organisation.

    Regarding the allegations that Russian hackers leaked the emails (which I take Craig’s word and judgement on), WTF if they had?
    Don’t you believe for a moment that the Yanks and Brits would leak stuff to try to affect a Putin election?
    Can people be so asleep, as to not know the US and UK have been meddling big-time in other countries elections or methods of chooosing leaders? WTF is are the ‘Regime Change’ wars and interventions? Mossadegh? Jacobo Arbenz Guzman? Allende? Qaddafi? Hugo Chavez (failed first time round, successful second time round)? Dilma Rousseff? Gough Whitlam? Harold Wilson? And so on, virtually ad infinitum. But then America is ‘Exceptional’, like it’s poodle, and a ‘certain other country’, so rules don’t apply in their cases.

    Putin undoubtedly has far worse dirt on a whole slew of US ex-Presidents, high officials across the spectrum, and their disgusting goings-on; he knows full well, and has the evidence, of ‘False Flag’ attacks which have led to Wars on the back of lies, going way back. He knows of the plot to get Japan to attack America at Pearl, of the deliberate sacrifice of the Lusitania and so many passengers, of the ‘Gulf of Tonkin LIE’, of who shot down MH17 (and probably what happened to MH 370).
    When the time comes, the information will pour out like a torrent. But that is probably being held back as a threat, in case any US or NATO joker looks like they’re going to press the Red Button.

  • Paul Barbara

    An odd thing happened just now. After posting a comment, I refreshed the page to see if others had posted while I had been composing my post. A page came up ‘Checking your browser before you connect to Craig Murray….’ I tried to copy it but before I could, it dissapeared and I got Craig’s site.

    • David Hardman

      I got exactly the same thing. I did get a screenshot, though can’t see a way to attach here. It was from Cloudflare and the small text indicates that it is a preventive measure against a DDoS attack. Go figure.

      • Darth

        We briefly enabled Cloudflare under attack mode to fence out a sudden bot attack. Tens of thousands of requests came in claiming to come from Facebook. However Facebook did not send the traffic and they all failed Cloudlfare`s bot challenge. We will re-enable under attack mode if needed.

        • Anon1

          Sounds like you’re right in the thick of the action there, Darth.

          Let me know if you need support as I have a hyper-squadron of 10,000 BS1/12 counterstrike bots ready to be deployed should Craig need protection.

          • Anon1

            Craig, for your own safety do not break cover at this time and take the batteries out of your mobile phone device.

            Darth and I are going to engage attack mode.

          • Darth

            I assume someone was having a laugh by flooding us with fake Facebook traffic of all things. Not likely a serious attempt to take blog offline as Cloudflare can easily handle that sort of thing and it was only for brief bursts. Facebook tells us how many visitors it has referred as does Google Analytics and Statcounter. All of them plus Cloudflare agree they were bots.

  • CanSpeccy

    Hillary whines that fake news has ruined her life by denying her the presidency, but when it comes to alleged Russian hackers, what she’s really whining about is that hackers have revealed the truth about the way the Democratic National Committee conspired, on Hillary’s behalf, to deny Bernie Sanders the Democratic Party’s Presidential nomination.

    Likewise, while faKebook claims to protect the world from fake news, it is, in fact, engaged in a blatant effort to suppress the truth.

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