Freedom No More 432


As I write, with over 75% of all yesterday’s English local election results in, Labour has a net gain of 55 councillors compared to the high water mark of the 2014 result in these wards, while the Tories have a net gain of one seat against a 2014 result which was regarded at the time as disastrous for them, and led the Daily Telegraph to editoralise “David Cameron Must Now Assuage the Voters’ Rage”.

Yet both the BBC and Sky News, have all night and this morning, treated these results, in which the Labour Party has increased by 3% an already record number of councillors in this election cycle, as a disaster. What is more, they have used that false analysis to plug again and again the “anti-Semitism in the Labour Party” witch-hunt. It was of course the continuous exacerbation of this mostly false accusation by Blairite MP’s which – deliberately on their part – stopped the Labour Party doing still better. The Blairites are all over the airwaves plugging this meme again today.

What is more this Labour result has been achieved despite the complete collapse of the UKIP vote, which collapse had been expected to boost the Tory Party. In fact the net loss of over 100 UKIP seats has not resulted in overall net gains for the Tory Party, even though those ex-UKIP voters demonstrably did mostly split to Tory. The very substantial UKIP voter reinforcements simply saved the Tories from doing still worse. The Liberal Democrats are showing some signs of life.

Yesterday was World Press Freedom Day, and the tendentious media misrepresentation of the election results reminds me why I could not get excited about it. A media with the extremely concentrated ownership we see in the UK can never be free, and certainly does not represent a wide spread of political opinions. Even the views of the official Leader of the Opposition are almost entirely deemed to be outside the Overton window. In Scotland the Scottish government is subject to unreasoning media attack, day in and day out, which contrasts strikingly with the treatment of Westminster ministers and issues.

There is a seriously worrying example from Leeds of the decline of free speech, where disgracefully a meeting discussing the bias of the corporate and state media has now been banned by Leeds City Council because of its content. We are not allowed even to get together to discuss media bias. Retired Ambassador Peter Ford, Professors Piers Robinson and Tim Hayward, Vanessa Beeley and Robert Stuart were to address the meeting at Leeds City Museum entitled “Media on Trial”. I cannot sufficiently express my outrage that Leeds City Council feels it is right to ban a meeting with very distinguished speakers, because it is questioning the government and establishment line on Syria. Freedom of speech really is dead.

British society truly has changed fundamentally if a former British Ambassador to Syria is banned from speaking in public premises on his area of expertise. What is still worse is the tone of this sneering report from Huffington Post, now firmly a part of corporate media, in which Chris York libels the speakers as “Assad supporters”, interviews none of the speakers and nobody to make the argument for free speech, but does manage to interview the “founder” of the jihadist “White Helmets.” In terms of banning dissent while simultaneously ramping up the official narrative, York has won himself top establishment brownie points. The man – and I use the term loosely – is unfit for polite company.


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432 thoughts on “Freedom No More

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  • Martinned

    Wait, you’re shocked that politicians get judged relative to the expectations they created, instead of relative to the election results from four years ago? Hello! Welcome to the 21st century!

    • Dungroanin

      “Hello!”?
      Why are you channeling legally blonde Valley speak?

      It appears that you still haven’t ‘woke’ and ‘smelled the coffee’ yet by the sounds of it.

  • Martinned

    O, and for the record, anyone who refers to the White Helmets as “jihadists” is absolutely an Assad supporter, wittingly or unwittingly.

    • craig Post author

      Absolute nonsense.
      1) I am not an Assad supporter. I was hoping he would be overthrown in the Arab Spring. Due to the US/UK/Israel folly, he is for now necessary to prevent a jihadist takeover, but I hope he will step down a couple of years after the restoration of peace
      2) The white helmets are demonstrably jihadists. Witness the fact they chose to evacuate from Douma with the jihadists to Idlib, and have done the same from other jihadist strongholds.

      • Martinned

        If your version of “demonstrably” is believing things you hear on RT and Assad propaganda sources to the exclusion of anything else, that makes you a demonstrable Assad supporter. Saying you want rid of him while repeating all his propaganda is what supporting Assad looks like.

        • Garth Carthy

          “Saying you want rid of him while repeating all his propaganda is what supporting Assad looks like.”
          No it doesn’t. It means Craig is trying to be even handed – which is more than you seem to be.
          I find it interesting that you and your ilk always see things in a binary way – West good – East bad, etc.
          Any intelligent reasoning being who has the slightest modicum of self-awareness and humility will realise that all nations are capable of evil and the US and UK are certainly no exception.
          I think your sort of thinking is primitive and does you no credit.
          Sorry if I sound condescending but I can hardly be expected to look up to you.

        • J

          Evidence dear boy. I understand you are some kind of solicitor, so I must assume evidence is a rather elastic term for you.

          • J

            As delicate as deprogramming a cult member…

            More interestingly, just recently there’s a distinct up tick in the presentation of some of the wackier theories on offer, much to the detriment of what Gage and his colleagues are trying to do. I’m intrigued by the timing.

            I’ve just read Bruce Robinson’s recent and hugely enjoyable epic They All Love Jack. It’s a detailed anatomy of a cover up, hugely informative, deeply disturbing and presents a massive accumulation of direct evidence.

            His method is essentially ‘to look wherever they tell you not to look.’

            Ostensibly about the Whitechapel murders it’s also a text book examination of how it’s done. The same techniques and essential features of a cover up leap into stark relief when viewed in real time today. Besides, we all recognise them from decades of similar information management. Paid or irrelevant witnesses, false testimony, ignoring of eye witness testimony entirely, bent ‘expert’ witnesses, false context and outright lies. Even without the documented instances of direct destruction, omission and concealment of evidence it would be a damning picture. Once the false evidence has been accepted by the media class an inclination toward group think and the steady repetition of mythology defies any casual attempt to understand what actually happened.

            Robinson identifies the crucial missing component of the ‘mystery’ early on. Why? The motive of the killer becomes clearer but it turns out that the reason for the cover up was in full view from very early on. With that piece of the puzzle convincingly in place, the whole of the matter reveals itself over fifteen years of research.

      • Kempe

        Considering the way Assad has traditionally dealt with dissenting voices in Syria and the propaganda campaign he’s waged against the White Helmets I wouldn’t hang around either.

        It’s a pity Leeds council banned the meeting, the speakers are absolute experts when it comes to bias and I’m sure the MSM could’ve learned a lot from them.

        • Harry

          And then there is the local population, who could identify everyone who had imprisoned them, murdered the family members, imposed sharia, and forced them to dig tunnels while stealing aid that was meant to be distrubuted to civilians. Yeah, they are right to leg it.

      • Ch Bostock

        ‘ he (Assad) is for now necessary to prevent a jihadist takeover, but I hope he will step down a couple of years after the restoration of peace’

        The chances of Assad stepping down once he’s reestablished power over the whole of Syria are about the same as the chances of more than 500 people taking out recurring subscriptions.

        • Kempe

          ” I hope he will step down a couple of years after the restoration of peace’ ”

          Laughable.

          • duplicitousdemocracy

            Why should he? Both he and his wife can walk freely amongst the citizens (not the largely foreign extremists and criminal Syrian elements, obviously) and aren’t surrounded by dozens of minders. Which other national leader can do that? The civilised Syrians know that he has saved them from Saudi inspired head choppers, despite a concerted effort by the US Airforce and the RAF. And so far as the White Helmets are concerned, all the evidence that convicts them of being extremist has emanated from their own social media accounts. You can hardly blame ‘Assadist’s’ for that.

        • craig Post author

          Oh, that’s excellent, given that so far about 600 people have taken out recurring subscriptions.

          • Ch Bostock

            Assuming an average subscription of £5 a month and assuming that the 600 stay the course, you’ll be £36.000 a year better off. Well done!

          • Paul Barbara

            @ craig Post author May 4, 2018 at 15:29
            Considering one copy of the Guardian rag costs £2, and on Saturday £2.90, a £2 monthly sub for your blog is far better value. I used to swear by the Guardian, but now it is cr*p, and I haven’t bought one for years.
            I was thinking of suggesting a bonfire of the MSM in a demo, so I started to check legality of bonfires in London, when I came across this: ‘Sun sales boosted as anti-Corbyn front page prompts bin and burn protests’:
            http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/sun-sales-boosted-today-as-corybn-supporters-buys-copies-to-bin-and-burn/

          • flatulence

            average will be much closer to £2, probably something like £2.50, £2.75.

            I notice the site running much more smoothly already. Don’t know if that’s upgraded hosting, less ddos attacks, or because of getting fewer Facebook traffic. What ever the money goes towards it’s a good cause. Holiday would be top of my list, leaving the computer behind. After a fry up and some paracetamol to nurse the hangover, I mean aches, from yesterdays march.

        • Yonatan

          Why the fsck should he step down? If he (Alawite) and his army (Sunni) had not stood up to the western-created terrorists, Syria would now be takfiri heaven and the remaining Syrians would be enduring full Wahhabist culture. His standing convinced Russia that taking on these terrorists would not be a futile exercise, and so Syria’s path was changed from the western-designed path. The large takfiri army (~ 60,000) would then move on to another country to repeat.

          Assad’s future rests solely with the Syrian people and the rest of the world, especially the arrogant western takfiri enablers (*) can go to hell. The west has lost all right to any say in Syria’s future.

          (*) I look forward to these people’s reaction should Assad deem to declare the fate of war-criminal western leaders, who should go and who should stay.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ly0W-9gzKo

          • Walter Cairns

            I wholeheartedly echo these views. I can only express my sadness that Craig, so excellent and perceptive in many other ways, has failed to see through the western-orchestrated Arab Spring terrorist operation.

      • Keith

        So if Syrians yet again elects Bashar al Assad as their President, would you respect their choice?

        • Ch Bostock

          Are elections in a one party state such as Syria really worth anything?

          • duplicitousdemocracy

            If it were up to your terrorist friends, there wouldn’t even be a one party to vote for. Just expressing approval of democracy would have you in a market square with a bag over your head and a geezer swinging a rather large sword close to your neck.

      • certa certi

        ‘The white helmets are demonstrably jihadists. Witness the fact they chose to evacuate from Douma with the jihadists to Idlib, and have done the same from other jihadist strongholds’

        That they’re partisan isn’t in dispute. A large part of their work is the search and rescue of civilian victims of bombing. When resistance in one urban centre has been defeated and bombing stopped, there’s no point remaining if they’re to continue their work. If we assume that bombing will continue in Idlib, they’ll be needed there. Politicisation of NGOs is a broader polemic.

        • Paul Barbara

          @ certa certi May 5, 2018 at 08:24
          ‘..Politicisation of NGOs is a broader polemic.’
          But with the White Helmets, it is not a case of ‘Politicisation of an NGO’; this heavily government-supported organisation (I don’t class it as an NGO) was tailor-made to the task of PR-ing the West’s proxy mercenary Jihadist headchoppers.
          I wonder why they don’t ‘assist’ the Houthis under the merciless bombing of our Suadi friends and their cronies?

          • certa certi

            ‘this heavily government-supported organisation (I don’t class it as an NGO)’

            Most NGOs are Gov funded, I would have thought you knew that.

            Mr Le Mesurier is in private enterprise, he wants to make money. Good. There’s nothing wrong with that. His White Helmet model was tailored to do so. As a propaganda exercise they just don’t stack up, are not value for money and wouldn’t attract donors. As a SAR outfit able to operate within jihadi armed militias in a war zone, where others cannot, they’ve been attractive to donors. Apart from their humanitarian work they offer an alternative source of information to Assad’s, which makes them a hard target for him and a propaganda target for his apologists. As always, the more sources the better and let the consumers decide. The WHs were not the only source of documentation of Assad’s chemical attack, the Syrian NGO Alliance suffers the same attacks from Assad apologists and assorted conspiracy theory nutters.

            fwiw my guess is WH funding may be withdrawn now because there are so many other NGOs in Idlib doing the same work.

      • Paul Barbara

        @ craig Post author May 4, 2018 at 13:26
        Arab Spring? Oh, you mean the Soros/USAID/CANVAS Spring! Just like the other ‘Colour ‘Revolutions”.
        Same ‘unknown snipers’ shooting both sides (Maidan, Egypt, Syria, Venezuela).
        Watch this very short clip of ex-French Foreign Minister Roland Dumas: ‘Roland Dumas: The British prepared for war in Syria 2 years before the eruption of the crisis’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeyRwFHR8WY and check out:
        ‘Former French Foreign Minister: The War against Syria was Planned Two years before “The Arab Spring”:
        https://www.globalresearch.ca/former-french-foreign-minister-the-war-against-syria-was-planned-two-years-before-the-arab-spring/5339112

        According to people like Vanessa Beeley, Eva Bartlett and others who have been to Syria many times during the current troubles say most Syrian people support Assad.

        The White Helmets are the PR Agency for the West’s proxy mercenary headchoppers, and they moonlight in assisting them in their abominable terrorist activities.

    • Ian Gibson

      ‘For the record’…? A record that needs changing. What utter piffle! There is clear evidence that goes way beyond the standard of evidence that would be required in a criminal trial, that they have strong connections to Jihadi groups, that they themselves have participated in violence (not least against the pre-existing Syrian Civil Defence Force in looting their equipment) and have cheerfully serviced beheadings and other acts of gross violence by Jihadi groups. Talking of the SCDF – one of the oldest in the world and, prior to this conflict, well respected, I’m sure you’ll be able to explain why it is them and not the White Helmets that the International Civil Defence Organisation recognises (and has quite scathing words to say about the latter.) I’m sure you’ll be able to explain why the leader of the White Helmets has on more than one occasion been refused entry to the USA on security grounds…

      • Ian Gibson

        Founded by a security consultant doing contract work for the UK and US Governments, funded by the latter, operating exclusively in areas held by Jihadi elements in the Anti-Assad forces. Ring 113 in Syria (the emergency number for Civil Defence in Syria) and you will get through – but not to the White Helmets.

        • Ian Gibson

          This stuff isn’t even controversial: the White Helmets themselves post videos showing them crowing over the dead bodies of Syrian Army soldiers, waving the flags of known terrorist groups, and associating with known terrorists. In fact the majority of evidence against them comes from the White Helmets themselves, which says something about how confident they are of media complicity.

          • Kempe

            The majority of evidence has come from fellow travellers like Barlett and Beeley and has already been widely debunked.

          • Tom Welsh

            “Fellow travellers”???

            You really have fallen into a time warp.

            ‘In U.S. politics, during the 1940s and the 1950s, the term fellow traveler was a pejorative term for a person who was philosophically sympathetic to Communism, yet was not a formal, “card-carrying member” of the American Communist Party. In political discourse, the term fellow traveler was applied to intellectuals, academics, and politicians who lent their names and prestige to Communist front organizations’.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellow_traveller

          • Laguerre

            “The majority of evidence has come from fellow travellers like Barlett and Beeley ”

            Feeble effort. We’re talking about videos, and not faked ones.

        • Kempe

          ” Ring 113 in Syria (the emergency number for Civil Defence in Syria) and you will get through ”

          Don’t expect them to turn up in a rebel held area though.

          • Ian Gibson

            “Don’t expect them to turn up in a rebel held area though.” Well, indeed, because they will be attacked by the terrorist associates of the White Helmets.

          • Ian Gibson

            “The majority of evidence has come from fellow travellers like Barlett and Beeley and has already been widely debunked.” Not remotely true, they’ve pointed out that most of the evidence they’ve compiled is directly from the White Helmets themselves, and there are several other reporters, including internationally respected, award winning and distinguished ones like Robert Fisk and Gareth Porter, who are anything but ‘fellow travellers’ – although if that phrase means actually getting down amongst where the action is and reporting what you see with your own eyes, then Yay! for the fellow travellers…

          • Ian Gibson

            Ha ha! I knew even before I clicked on your link that it would be THAT Laura Solon article – the one that has been SO comprehensively debunked/shredded that she doesn’t even respond to any communications about it any more… (It’s always a strong clue that the Guardian is in propaganda rather than journalism mode when they don’t allow comments…) This from a ‘technology reporter’ based in San Francisco who has never once set foot in Syria… I would have thought you would have had more self-awareness than to try quoting this particular article in trying to rescue your line of argument.

            Newsflash: your argument just sank without a trace…

          • reg

            Kempe
            After all the lies and ad hominum attacks on Jeremy Corbyn cynically using any identity politics lying around and the absurd story about some bloggers in Moldova turning the US election Chanel 4 News is no longer a credible news source., which is a shame because it used to be about the only mainstream news source worth looking at. All the Russia Russia Russia stories seem to indicate that those running and presenting Ch4 news are unhinged by cold war propaganda of reds under the bed.
            Michelle Wolfs critique of MSM only covering 3 subjects is now true of Ch 4 propaganda.
            Even the Cambridge Analytica was spun against Trump and Brexit which is about all it covers other than dishonest attacks Jeremy Corbyn using contrived single issue politics, such as on race and gender issues. This is absurd, the only time Boris Johnson avoids making racist comments is when he is asleep, why don’t Ch4 run on that?.

            Chanel 4 news debunked.

      • Kempe

        Yes he was caught by Trump’s executive order that barred entry to the United States for citizens from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen for 90 days and then the Syrian government cancelled his passport.

        • Ian Gibson

          That wasn’t how the White House press spokesperson explained it when grilled at length on this subject: he was quite specific that this type of refusal was specific to security concerns. Still, White house press spokesperson, eh, just another fellow traveller, I’d imagine…

      • Walter Cairns

        Kempe & Co are clearly getting their information from the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, an one-man set-up operating from that well-known Middle Eastern hub known as Coventry, Warwicks. Oh, and from all those BBC correspondents sending in these first-hand reports from Beirut.

    • bj

      Someone who describes a giraffe, and wittingly leaves out its most conspicuous characteristic, its uniquely long neck, is a liar.

      By failing to mention, otherwise even denying, the ‘long neck’ of the White Helmets, you are a liar.

    • SO.

      The white helmets are an agitation propaganda organisation and terrorists.

      Anyone suggesting otherwise is either a liar complicit with their behaviour or a fool.

    • Tom Welsh

      You’re quite right. Jihadists are religious believers who – while often fanatical and cruel – at least act out of principle.

      The White Helmets are cynical mercenaries who, the evidence shows, would do absolutely anything for money.

    • Agent Green

      The White Helmets are famous for working with terrorist groups and basically completely discredited. It has nothing to do with Assad.

    • Jack

      Actually “Martinned” is a classic example of the people west more and more turning into,
      ignorant sheep that use the rhetoric of the war-propaganda from the western media.
      Look at the way he respond, smear etc – that also provide proof that these people are 100% ignorant of what they are talking about – they have nothing when it comes to facts, because thats how western media works today.
      Someone like “Martinned” were of course a supporter of Iraq war thus these people are ignorant, they never learn and they are a terrific burden for the rest of this world since they are constantly drifting towards intiating war.

      • Shatnersrug

        Martinned is a paid troll of the Liberal establishment, I don’t know what he gets paid to spout his rubbish but it must be sufficiently good enough that he’s prepared to make a tw*t of himself, I do wonder if him and Kempe are actually the same single employee ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

        I know craig fancies himself a liberal but I really don’t know why he doesn’t ban them, their entires job is to fill up columns with smears and muddied waters, which is what they do here. Ban them I say.

        As for Martinned “legal qualifications” I have seen nothing within the language he uses or the link he posts to indicate that he has the mental agility required for such a career. I’d say it’s more likely he’s a Blairite policy wonk with a PPE that works for Vince Cable of Chuka Umana

        • Pyotr Grozny

          Martinned and Kempe are tedious but I can’t see why anyone would think them worth paying.

    • james

      White Helmets as “jihadists” ………… i guess it is just a quirk of fate they are always embedded with the jihadists…. obviously they wouldn’t have anything to do them them in ”martinned world”…

  • Sharp Ears

    On the previous thread I commented on Boulton putting out that a-s stuff. He is still going strong on Sky News and has one Jess Phillips on to discuss the results. He would choose such an ardent Corbyn supporter, not!

    I also just said this:

    ‘Did you see Treeza crowing at her photo op outside Wandworth Council with the 33 Tory clones, plus Brandon Lewis the partei chairman (who has a Russian donor as Craig said).?
    You would not know that Wandsworth has other councillors. There are 26 Labour councillors and 1 Independent..

    The Tories lost 8, Labour gained 7. Ha!
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cv8k1e8g5dwt/wandsworth-london-borough-council

    • Sharp Ears

      Gosh I have been out for a few hours and Boulton is still hard at I on Sky News. Their political correspondent Beth Rigby is predicting some Labour by elections, once the ‘Corbynista mania’ is over as she put it. It is dreadful stuff. Dread to think what the BBC is putting out.

  • Sharp Ears

    The UK is now on a fast descent into a fascist state. No question.

    There are no truths. There is no justice. We see the face of Satan.

    • Laguerre

      Quite right. It’s easy when you have a people who obey, much as in Germany, but different from France where every single point is resisted.

    • Mochyn69

      Maybe not quite fascist yet, but certainly deeply flawed, horrendously unequal and irretrievably divided against itself.

      It will not survive in its present form.

      **

    • Chris

      There is definitely evil emanating from Whitehall and the Houses of Parliament, and this flooding of the EU and UK with FSA jihadists is intentional on the part of the global elite. Their crimes in Syria are incredibly evil and they are doing all they can to sow chaos and cover it up.

      Link proving such:

      Exposing Oz Katerji And The UK Based Pro FSA And White Helmets Terrorist Propaganda Networks Operating In The United Kingdom

      https://clarityofsignal.com/2017/10/25/exposing-oz-katerji-and-the-uk-based-pro-fsa-and-white-helmets-terrorist-propaganda-networks-operating-in-the-united-kingdom/

      The above link exposes Ayman Asfari and his wife’s Sawsan’s connections to members of the House of Lords that allowed FSA propagandist Oz Katerji to speak at The House of Lords in February 2017. The Asfari’s and Saudi billionaire sheik Hani Farsi lobbied Roger Waters of Pink Floyd to speak on behalf of the White Helmets for the Syria Campaign. That of course blew up in their faces as Roger Waters has instead exposed their nefarious activities to the global public.

      https://www.rt.com/news/424553-pink-floyd-white-helmets-blumenthal/

      Ben Swann has recently released a Truth in Media video that exposes that the Syria Campaign is linked to Jeremy Heiman’s and Avaaz who played an early support role in the faux Syrian uprising against Assad. Heimans and Avaaz are of course linked to MoveOn and George Soros.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EXtHoOi7_4

      Part 2 to Ben Swann’s report will be released in the next few days.

    • Paul Barbara

      @ El Tinyan May 4, 2018 at 13:32
      Hopefully they will be able to use it to their advantage when they find an alternative site – ‘Come and hear what Leeds Council banned’!

  • Mrs Rita Irvine

    I am constantly depressed by Sky and BBC bias against Corbyn. However your analysis taiga is the perfect antidote to the poisenous MSM. Thank you

    • Salford Lad

      qUOTE; Where freedom of expression is not allowed ,armed Revolution is inevitable.
      JFK

    • Agent Green

      You are doing it wrong. Don’t watch BBC/Sky. Better off using the internet to gather information from useful sources (like this blog) and then occasionally watching RT to get an idea of what the West doesn’t want people to hear about.

    • Tom Welsh

      The perfect antidote to the poisonous MSM, I find, is to ignore them completely.

  • JackM

    Early this morning Sky news ask a Tory spokesman, of all people to explain Labours “Disaster” and of course he is off on the anti semitism hobby horse. UK media is going past Orwellian predictions to an area of total mind boggling dishonesty and political propaganda

    • Ch Bostock

      Even if all this stuff about Labour anti-semitism is just Tory misrepresentation, is it any worse than the stuff spouted by the hard left and its hangers-on about the Tories turning Britain into a ‘fascist state’?

      • marvellousMRchops

        Ch Bostock …
        Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete and they regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties.

        Liberal democracy is characterised by fair, free and competitive elections between multiple distinct political parties, a separation of powers into different branches of government, the rule of law in everyday life as part of an open society and the equal protection of human rights, civil rights, civil liberties and political freedoms for all people.

        Which one fits best our present circumstances I wonder?

        Tories just misrepresent – the hard left (whatever that means in 2017) spout – just what exactly.

        • Agent Green

          The idea of national armed conflict is absurd. Any war with Russia would be nuclear and guarantee the total destruction of most of the world. There won’t be any large engagements, or massive troop movements like in WWII. We aren’t in the 1940s any more.

          • Tom Welsh

            And there will be no need whatever to persuade public opinion. Someone will push a button and it will all be over within an hour or two. “Over two billion hunks of well-done steak,” as Tom Lehrer sang just 60 years ago – innocently unaware that by 2018 there would be over 7 billion hunks.

          • marvellousMRchops

            Not to be taken too literally………… the blog title being ‘Freedom no More’.
            A one party state is not too different from a Tory or a Labour party under the Bliarites – controlling and being controlled by the MSM at the behest of the Masters of the Universe – having privatised wealth and socialised debt.

        • Tom Welsh

          “Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete…”

          Well, they are much mistaken then. “Liberal democracy”, as commonly portrayed, has never existed. “Representative democracy” is a system of government carefully and ratherly cleverly designed absolutely to prevent democracy.

          If you told Plato – or any ancient Athenian – about “representative democracy” he would be stunned, and then perhaps burst out laughing. Democracy is a system of government in which individual citizens participate directly in government decisions and policy-making. “Representative democracy” is a system in which, every few years, citizens are offered a single chance to choose which of the rich and powerful – the oligarchs, in short – are to rule them. It’s like a cross between plutocracy and Russian roulette.

  • Bunkum

    The MSM should be reporting it thus.

    After a solid night by LAB, and the demise of UKIP, the question is where now for the CON?

    The MSM will have you believe its been bad for LAB and OK for CON but that is not what results bear out.

    Where will the CON gain voters to have an overall majority in the future?

    • N_

      “Should” if they were objective, which they aren’t. “Should” be doing exactly what they are doing, if they’re acting true to their nature. Who can expect them to do otherwise? Holding bourgeois agencies to their own professed standards may often be wise tactically, but that is only tactics and it does not define truth. Truth is more important than tactics because without truth you don’t know whether you’re kicking the enemy up the arse or kicking yourself up your own; without truth you don’t know the difference between tactics and a hole in the ground.

      Politically the entire Brexit issue comes from a division in the Tory party, and that division absolutely is not going away, regardless of whether or not the Tories win the next general election – which unless another party is paid for and pulls some big celebrity names and enjoys US embassy support they probably will. The division in the Tory party comes from a division within the poshboy ruling elite and the exacerbating tensions within that elite have other expressions too, which require proper appraisal. This is far bigger than it was in the 1960s with Harold Macmillan, the Lady Chatterley trial, the Headless Man and then the eventual rise of Monty Python. Nobody’s going to go quietly this time, as perhaps they might if the division could be slotted as primarily generational. It’s not primarily generational. This time the Kennel Club has fallen out with much rancour with the RSPCA. Who knows, perhaps one day we might get the BBC falling out with the Household Cavalry? Or maybe it will be Trinity College, Cambridge, falling out with the General Synod of the Church of England? This kind of sh*t is unprecedented. Welcome to the end of empire. I’m thinking not so much of decolonisation which was largely illusory anyway (one of Jomo Kenyatta’s main advisers was Bronislaw Malinowski of the LSE), but more the atmosphere in the Reichstag in 1918. More slow-burning, but wait a moment because it’s going to boil over and that won’t look pretty. The Tory party and the poshboy elite aren’t pretty. They are extremely ugly and soon those who are naive, who’ve spent decades believing in this crap called “democracy” while the posh boys laughed at them, are going to find out just how ugly the bastards are.

      Here’s the question. Divided, are they? Well who do you think above all they might unite against? The answer is only superficially Johnny Foreigner. Deeper down there’s a different answer.

      It is tragic that extremely few on the left even begin to understand the position.

      The divisions would serve us well rather than badly, were it not for the fact that our own side hardly exists as a subjective force and is just waiting to get whacked over the head by the Black Hundred Chav-Hunters, hell bent on showing us what Social Darwinism really means.

      Goodhearted lefties can moan that that’s all terribly illegal. How simply dreadful!

      Many things that go around, come around. Then they go round and round and get nowhere. There’s been talk for example of cracking down on the use of equitable (beneficial ownership) methods to hide who controls (and transfers) what land and money and assets not just for decades but for centuries. No successful crackdown has ever happened. Perhaps if the liberal left all write enough in the comments sections, eh, and read the right shocking investigative books, this time will be different? 🙂 Either that, or there’s only one language the ruling class will ever understand, and it’s not the language of investigative journalism or human rights.

      I have checked and no constituency in Britain had more than 75% voting for Brexit. To judge by an online poll, the Army had 80%. Hold on to your hats.

    • Tom Welsh

      I find your use of the abbreviation “CON” both felicitous and amusing.

        • N_

          It would be nice to name someone as putting the “con” (in the French sense) into the Conservative party, but we’d be spoiled for choice as to where to begin. Is anyone in that party something other than a “con” (again, French sense)?

    • Mochyn69

      Exactly my point.

      Now that the racists and xenophobes have come home there is nowhere for the toxic tories to go, and given that they tend to be largely of the older generation, the grim reaper will continue to take his toll on their numbers.

      Change is coming, just hold on in there!

      **

  • N_

    Friendly advice regarding the meeting in Leeds:

    • c***s gonna act like c***s
    • rather than whinge about it, go around the problem; think out of the box; hold a meeting in a room over a pub, or in the park, or in the street
    • what do you think Saul Alinsky would have done?
    • the bourgeoisie isn’t serious about “free speech”? well f*** me!

  • Gary

    I agree wholeheartedly on all points. I regularly visit Guido Fawkes website to see what they’re saying about it and, of course, they are promoting this as a ‘win’ for May, whilst showing figure that make it patently obvious it was not. Unsurprisingly the bulk of their readership swallow the story without checking the facts. The facts being that EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE is true.

    Similarly, Ken Livingstone, an old Guido favourite has been vilified again. An excerpt from an interview on Sky is on the site, the headline proclaims that ‘Red Ken Mentions Hitler Six Times in TV Interview’ (I’m paraphrasing)

    Unlike the ‘readership’ I actually WATCHED the interview. Ken does indeed mention Hitler, that much is true. His interviewer is asking him if HE is part of the reason Labour ‘did so badly’ at the council elections (I know, but let’s not go there again) and brings up the ‘infamous’ “Hitler was a Zionist” interview/quote.

    Ken, to be fair, addresses the issue head on. He corrects the quote doing the rounds and states that he said that Hitler allowed Jewish people to go to Israel, as per the request of a Zionist group, and makes it clear that he is fully aware of Hitler’s oppression and murder of Jewish people and that this was under some duress.

    Previously I had no sympathy for Ken, but with his corrected and historically accurate statement – which WAS what he originally said I am now understanding just how disgusting a smear this has been. Corbyn has been similarly maligned (yet no one will actually say HE is ant-semitic) To my mind this has the whiff of PLP about it. They are SO desperate to rid themselves of anyone remotely resembling a proper Labour politician that they will resort to plumbing the depths of abusing the oppression, mass murder and dispossession of the Jewish people to get their way.

    How hard would a journalist need to work to show this to be the case. No, not very hard at all.

    Freedom of speech and thought, fair and accurate reporting. These are a dream and only a dream…

    • Dungroanin

      The Groaniad has resorted to a doubling up of enforcing the propaganda by resorting to thuggish below-the-line enforcement of the message by deletion of comments and commentators – they really don’t care how many of their decades long loyal readership they burn up – a bit of an Atlanta GWTW moment in this undeclared civil war by the establishment.

      • BarrieJ

        Indeed the Guardian’s moderation of anybody questioning events in Salisbury – utterly ridiculous.
        That the usual suspects acting to undermine democracy is a given but that the Guardian should now happily join them.
        As to the BBC, put simply the mask has slipped; invented as the propaganda arm of the establishment, they’ve been outed by social media and the Internet.
        I see no chance of either organisation recovering but it’ll be interesting to see what the future holds for Aunty Beeb, 95% of their current output is dire and my grandchildren aren’t even sure what it does or what it’s for.

  • Republicofscotland

    Well, looking on the bright side for UKIP, they’ll always have a safe seat on Question Time. No party can take that away from them.

  • Jones

    wonder who did the arm twisting to change councils mind to stage the event, blairite Hilary Benn is MP there, apparently the museum informed the press about the cancellation even before they told the Media on Trial organisers.

    good result for Labour after an onslaught of smears from tories blairites and media.

  • Jim

    On Leeds, do it anyway. Get together for a private conversation with a few hundred others and discuss.

  • Tom Welsh

    As for UKIP, for some years now I have always voted UKIP in elections that have some bearing on the EU and the UK’s membership (or not) of it.

    I see no point in wasting my time to vote in a local election where there is no UKIP issue at stake. Local government is even more corrupt than central government – an astonishing feat. There is no point in voting for councillors who will simply take the money and do what they paid to do.

    • Skyblaze

      Well surely you think UKIP would not be corrupt and wouldn’t it be better to have someone like that in “power” at a local level?

    • Tom Welsh

      I would really enjoy seeing such “peaceful protests” against the US and UK governments. And how those governments would respond with sweet reason and Christ-like compassion.

  • AntonyI

    Here is where the US, French, Polish or Russian national election system shine: all vote for one presidential candidate, not each for his/her local MP. This gives a single rich maverick like Trump the brief chance to surprise the Establishment; they will try to sabotage after if the new head is not obedient. Reversely the presidential system can also propel an apparatchik like Putin or Macron to the top fast.
    In a parliamentary election setup like the UK, most West European nations or India a lot of in betweens have to be elected so that will take years of effort against which the Status Quo can prepare. It can be done though as PM Modi showed. It takes a weak ruling party plus a good electoral strategy and even more tactics

    • Vivian O'Blivion

      Pop quiz!
      Do we think the ambulant, orange clownfish is doing this because:

      a) It’s the right thing to do.
      b) It’ll piss of George Clooney.

      • james

        not enough bang for their buck…. they get the white helmets to make these propaganda videos with the desired effect of regime change… it just hasn’t worked out.. time to funnel the money into a more successful propaganda outlet…

    • Stonky

      “It may become harder for the White Helmets to produce their staged propaganda videos, if Trump decides to cut a third of their funding…”

      I could have produced their last offering in half an hour in my bedroom for five bob.

  • Manda

    “There is a seriously worrying example from Leeds of the decline of free speech, where disgracefully a meeting discussing the bias of the corporate and state media has now been banned by Leeds City Council because of its content.”

    Shameful and weak of Leeds City Council to ban such an important event at such a crucial, dangerous time in UK and the world and when free speech is being so repressed in British and western so called democratic societies while corporate and public media are the voice of the establishment in domestic but especially foreign policy.

    Here are some speeches from the ‘Media on Trial’ event last June organised by Frome Stop War supported by Bristol Against Imperialism . A couple of the speeches are unavailable on this link and I haven’t time to try and find ones that work.
    https://www.mediaontrial.uk/media-on-trial-frome-2017/

    While I am posting links to such events, here is the ‘Imperialism on Trial’ event from February 2018, organised by Gregory Sharkey, in Derry, February 2018. I believe Vanessa Beeley was unable to attend and George Galloway stepped in at the last minute. The full live stream is the top video.
    https://ingaza.wordpress.com/2018/02/08/imperialism-on-trial-writers-and-activists-convene-in-derry-ireland/

    • Mochyn69

      Frome Stop the War really give me hope. I hadn’t heard of Bristol Against Imperialism before.

      So there are some parts of England where the sun does shine. Maybe they should start proselytising in less privileged, enlightened areas like, i don’t know, Romford.

      **

    • Manda

      Media on Trial event looking for another Leeds venue. A venue with a commitment to freedom of speech, integrity and with the guts to stand up for what is right and for freedom of speech. I believe the special guest speaker was (still is?) Cynthia McKinney.
      https://www.mediaontrial.uk/

  • quasi_verbatim

    Mr. Murray paints a rosy picture for neo-Anarchists everywhere, who anticipate Brexit Trainwreck Derangement Syndrome to eventually collapse the British parliamentary pseudo-state and usher in direct rule by Maybot and Johnners, which is what is needed after all.

  • Morton Subotnick

    “What is more this Labour result has been achieved despite the complete collapse of the UKIP vote, which collapse had been expected to boost the Tory Party. In fact the net loss of over 100 UKIP seats has not resulted in overall net gains for the Tory Party, even though those ex-UKIP voters demonstrably did mostly split to Tory.”

    This is both wrong and another implied “UKIP voters were racist/neo-fascist” trope. Really, REALLY unimpressed to see this ‘standard’ of analysis here.

    From one of my many deleted Guardian accounts following the 2017 election result:

    “In Scotland, the predictable shift from SNP to Conservative was the result of the SNP’s post-Independence referendum ‘position’: still endlessly harping on about “out of the UK, in Europe”. Trouble is, because that is an internally contradictory position (in Europe is ipso facto not independent), the SNP lost all those who wanted independence but also out of the EU. Labour had been against Scottish Independence, so “Hello Conservatives!”. Of course, the Conservatives were also against Scottish independence, but Labour were the worst of all possible worlds: anti-independence and pro-EU (finessed and non-admitted). At least the Conservatives (for interests that did not coincide with those of the manual working class) were pro-Brexit.

    In England, as the swing statistics from result after result proved, the manual working class that really made the difference were moving away from UKIP (out of the EU, job done) and primarily towards Labour. Why? Nothing to do with some vaulted “middle class/yoof saviours of the common people” (since when have they ever cared about the manual working class, Communists aside?). Simply because the next most important threat to their living standards after EU membership was the Conservatives’ ‘austerity’ programme.

    It is exactly the same situation as occurred after WW2, when Labour was swept to power against all expectations: “We’ve fought your war, now we want what’s due to us”. However, the Guardian and every other ‘intelligent’ liberal media organ that detests the manual working class are trying to convince themselves and everyone else that this UKIP-Labour shift means the opposite: that these ‘oiks’ have finally seen the error of their ways and now want to remain in the “free movement of capital/goods/people ‘leftist’/’progressive’ wonderland” that is the EU. Should the Labour Party also adopt this ‘analysis’, their ‘new-found friends’ will disappear just as quickly as they arrived.”

    The graphs that the Guardian included with their post-election analyses actually showed the C/D/E Ukip to Labour movement, despite the content claiming that it was, on the contrary, a combined A/B and yoof switch wot dun it. Sad.

  • AndyH

    Looking at the Indy’s comments section on the 100g of novichok nonsense today it is plain to see that it has comprehensively been overtaken by (i presume) a government sponsored team down voting anything against the official narrative. This contrasts starkly with previous stories that were intensely criticised (quite rightly in my opinion).
    It seems the amount of up-votes for a particular standpoint now equates to down-votes. I cannot believe that contributors beliefs have turned around 180 degrees during the past week.
    Someone is getting very uptight.

  • N_

    The OPCW has correct “100 grams” to “100 milligrams”.

    Will news editors – including at the BBC, the Independent, and the Daily Telegraph – who faithfully parroted the “100 grams” line feel any shame that they printed something that was patently obviously, at the time they printed it, completely false? Will they hell?

    • N_

      My advice is to take note of anyone who tried to argue in favour of the position that “Of course 100g of Novichok can be stuck onto a doorhandle, and you’re a conspiracy wacko to think otherwise”…and never discuss with them again.

      • reg

        Maybe it was a cunning ploy to use weight of the Novoachuck to open the door handel and not leave any foresnsic evidence?

    • Thomas_Stockmann

      For the benefit of Daily Mail readers, the paper reports the same story using imperial measures (yes, really). 🙂

    • Tom Welsh

      The confused woolly-minded “liberals” find such scientific jargon very tiring. Micro, millio, kilo… what’s the difference really?

      You remind me of the hilarious story (although its consequences were anything but) about how the CIA concluded the USSR was planning massive operations with LSD – because the US military attache in Switzerland told them that Moscow had ordered huge amounts of LSD from Sandoz.

      Pity he didn’t know the difference between micrograms and kilograms!

      Yes, our fate lies in the hands of bozos like that.

  • john young

    Craig can you explain to me this “love in” with Israel from most if not all of Europe and most certainly all of the USA are they staunch allies that stood shoulder to shoulder with Europe/USA in the many wars involving these countries,do they come to their aid in the time of crises?why do we fall over at the least bit of criticism of Israel,nobody shouting foul about the sectarianism meted out to Catholics/Irish in this country not a voice but Israel the tower beckons.

  • Jack

    If you cannot argue AGAINST or even debate the war in Syria in a critical war in the so called western democracies, where on earth are you supposed to it then?
    European states are off again towards fascism, and it is the liberal/interventionist/media/deep state that push us toward that demise.

    This is not only a UK problem, we see the witch hunt all over europe and america.

    • Jo Dominich

      Jack, I’m beginning to think I would prefer Putin/Xi as our Prime Minister than Treason May. At least I’d know what we’d be getting!

  • reel guid

    Craig says British society has changed fundamentally for the worse. I agree that England probably has. Scotland however has progressed immeasurably from having 20 years of essentially forward looking parliaments. We are good Europeans and good Scots and we will not bow to Westminster’s authoritarian dictates.

    • Vivian O'Blivi

      Not in a position to comment with confidence on England, but the general social attitude in Scotland has gotten better with time (coming from an inveterate old grouch).
      Scotland in the 70’s & 80’s was a shit hole. The first 15 minutes of Reporting Scotland on a Monday evening was a run down of fatal stabbings in the greater Glasgow area over the weekend. Sectarianism was really in your face as well (some folk appear to have a yearning for the old days, no honorary Colonels no pack drills). Contrast politicians like Humza and Shona praising the efforts of the public workers under them with the constant demoralising browbeatings delivered by Westminster.
      Even before the days of SNP administration in Holyrood, the parliament was a modern legislative vehicle. Some of the Labour First Ministers were even half decent.
      2014 was a big step change in social cohesion and arguably there has been negligible slippage since.

    • Radar O'Reilly

      I agree R.G,

      what has shocked me this time was the hysterical conspicuousness of the English manipulations of their entire press sphere; I’m certain that enormous numbers of people on the Clapham Omnibus will have noticed; as will much of the EU and Scotland – where ‘trust’ was obviously lost a while ago.

      A bit of a response to Jack, it’s actually been very quiet in the European press, where normally there would be at least some overt level of support for a fellow EU State in a showdown with autocratic Putie , this time – just dusty cactus & tumbleweeds blowin’ past with the odd article inserted by occasional Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty’s paid shills.

      One ‘ulfkotted’ journo can write a lot of articles, true – but once you check their affiliation, benchmark their current output, then simply everything they have ever said, and all that they will ever say – turns to dust.

      Is that what you want BBC, LBC? there must be a lot of staff unhappiness with the scary guys that are walking around your lobbies with the (1)ALWAYS FOLLOW THE STUPID BOJO LIES & (2)CLOSE DOWN ASAP ANYONE AWARE=BOT placards. GCHQ/5EYES/UKUSA must be working overtime spending most of their time looking inwards, sentiment analysis on all participating idiots life data-threads, prior to sending the boys round. Englands institutions are teetering one single whistleblower away from extinction,
      dying out,
      annihilation,
      destruction,
      elimination,
      obsolescence,
      mort,
      end of life,
      shuffle off,
      thing of the past,
      as pining as a Norwegian blue on an B/W TV set in the 70’s.

      And I think a lot of Euro-goodwill has been burnt in this furcup, SNAFU, which actually defies descriptive doublespeak

      • Twostime

        RO’R – thank you made me smile :). However is is all too clear that we must all repeat: black is white, up is down & love is war… etc The two minute hate begins soon.

  • mark ruston

    I have written to Leeds City Council, received a generic reply, and now have made a formal complaint. Their argument seems to be based on ‘security costs’ and ‘not suitable for a child friendly space’.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    Well, despite being nagged, from both the Tory & The Lib Dem Candidates, basically to vote, I had a pleasant conversation with both of them, particularly the Lib Dem Councillor. I felt quite honoured he turned up at my house, asking me to vote. However, I think he may have been slightly annoyed, when I completely refused to have a political discussion with him. I was quite happy to talk about the lovely weather. He kept insisting. Why won’t you tell me, why you refuse to vote. He is obviously a nice bloke, and I have never put myself up as a candidate for any election. I simply said to him, I don’t want to offend you.

    Meanwhile the latest “Fake News”, is That Gavin Williamson, has been reading The Moon of Alabama MOA, and he is so impressed with Bernhard (and so am I), that he is going to ask Theresa May, if he can change the name of The Ministry of Defence, (MOD), to The Ministry of Attack (MOA).

    Read this and weep. I’m afraid I did not have the stomach to watch the videos, the descriptions of them were bad enough.

    “Yemen – Massacres and Assassinations Trigger a New Phase of War”

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/05/yemen-massacres-and-assassinations-trigger-a-new-phase-of-war.html

    Tony

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