The “Philip Cross” MSM Promotion Operation Part 3 278

“Philip Cross” has just 200 Twitter followers, but has more MSM journalists following him than are to be found among my 42,300 twitter followers. Despite the fact a large majority of “Philip Cross’s” tweets are mere retweets, with Oliver Kamm and Nick Cohen most frequently retweeted. “Philip Cross” has never broken a news story and the few tweets which are not retweets contain no gems of expression or shrewd observation. In short, his twitter feed is extremely banal; there is literally nothing in it that might interest a journalist in particular. Do not take my word for it, judge for yourself.

Why then does James LeMesurier, founder of the “White Helmets”, follow Philip Cross on twitter? Why does ex-minister Tristram Hunt follow Philip Cross on Twitter? Why does Sarah Brown, wife of Gordon, follow Philip Cross on twitter?

Why then do so the following corporate and state journalists follow “Philip Cross” on twitter?

Oliver Kamm, Leader Writer The Times
Nick Cohen, Columnist The Guardian/Observer
Joan Smith, Columnist The Independent
Leslie Felperin, Film Columnist The Guardian
Kate Connolly, Foreign Correspondent The Guardian/Observer
Lisa O’Carroll, Brexit Correspondent The Guardian
James Bloodorth, Columnist The Independent
Cristina Criddle, BBC Radio 4 Today Programme
Sarah Baxter, Deputy Editor, The Sunday Times
Iain Watson, Political Correspondent, The BBC
Caroline Wheeler, Deputy Political Editor, the Sunday Times
Jennifer Chevalier, CBC ex-BBC
Dani Garavelli, Scotland on Sunday

Prominent Freelancers

Bonnie Greer (frequently in The Guardian)
Mason Boycott-Owen (The Guardian, New Statesman)
Marko Attilla Hoare (The Guardian)
Kirsty Hughes
Guy Walters (BBC)
Paul Canning

Let me recap, The official story is that “Philip Cross” is an obscure and dedicated Wikipedia editor who edits every single day for five years. His twitter feed has never contained any “news”. Yet among the 160 followers he had last week before the media spotlight was turned upon him, were all these MSM journalists, many more than follow anyone but the most prominent individuals, more than follow an activist like me. Plus big figures like Sarah Brown, Tristram Hunt and James Le Mesurier. What does this tell us about who Philip Cross is.

The largest single category of Philip Cross’s historic 160 followers is anti-left and anti-Corbyn twitter accounts, especially those that specialise in making accusations of anti-semitism against left wing or anti-war figures. These include:

UK Media Watch “promoting accurate coverage of Israel”; ALT Putin’s Capitalist Wealth “@medialenswipe”; Antinat; Jeremy Corbin Prime Minister; Jewish News; Anti-Nazis Utd [which thinks I am a Nazi]; Labour Against Anti-Semitism; Jews Aganst Jeremy Corbyn. A very much larger number of individual followers of “Philip Cross” have twitter streams which predominantly consist of attacks on Jeremy Corbyn or the anti-war left in general, and of vociferous support for Israel. Of personal interest to me, there are at least seventeen of Philip Cross’s supporters who have made utterly unprovoked attacks on me on social media over the last twelve months.

So let us recap what we know. “Philip Cross” spends a quite astonishing amount of time on Wikipedia making malicious edits to the entries of anti-war or anti-corporate media figures, while at the same time polishing and protecting the Wikipedia profiles of corporate and state media figures. “Philip Cross” had done this obsessively for 13 years and not had a single day off, even at Christmas, for five years.

“Philip Cross” is not very active on twitter, mostly just retweeting, and as you would expect has therefore not had many followers. But an extraordinary percentage of that very limited number of followers are MSM journalists or senior Establishment figures. There is absolutely no reason on the face of his Twtter stream why Philip Cross would attract this particular type of following. His retweets are mostly of Nick Cohen and Oliver Kamm, and his followership is concentrated in the Guardian and Times, which nowadays have very similar neo-con agendas.

“Philip Cross”‘s own twitter stream makes no effort at all to hide the fact that he has the strongest of neo-conservative biases, hates the Left and anti-war movement, and strongly supports Israel. “He” is part of an active social media network trolling these views. The purpose of “his” continual Wikipedia editing could not be clearer. I suspect strongly that this particular Philip Cross twitter follower gives us a clue:

That is a twitter account founded by a collective of Guardian writers to attack MediaLens, whose Wikipedia entry “Philip Cross” has edited over 800 times. I suspect “Philip Cross” is a similar collective effort, which may hide behind the persona of a real life individual called Philip Cross. The intention of this effort to denigrate and demean alternative media and anti-war figures through their Wikipedia entries, and at the same time to burnish the Wikipedia entries of mainstream media figures, is proven without doubt, as is the continued complicity of Wikipedia in enabling and defending the long-term operation.

Analysis of “Philip Cross” tweets.

FOOTNOTE Since Philip Cross’s activity was brought into prominence throughout social media a few days ago, his Twitter followers have increased, mostly by people who dislike his activity wishing to keep an eye on him. I have disregarded these new followers, and it in no way diminishes my argument for trolls to point out that he now has left wing followers as well.

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278 thoughts on “The “Philip Cross” MSM Promotion Operation Part 3

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  • bj

    I see Jimmy ‘Jimbo’ Wales is on the MIT Center for Collective Intelligence advisory board.

    Maybe someone ought to enlighten the MIT Center about mister Wales’ collective intelligence efforts.

    • WJ

      Sadly I expect that they are well aware. MIT and CIA have always gone together like peanut butter and jelly.

    • bj

      No. It’s a human operation.

      Prob. small-scale, set up as an experiment, not by any state agencies, but by some fellows from an neo-old-boys network, as an experiment –maybe with the informal blessing of some spooks– conceived over cocktails, prob. one of these held by mister Jimmy Wales.

      • GoAwayAndShutUp


        Maybe it started like that but, then, it is “highly likely” that “he” discovered the great power “he” had and started this new business model of selling PR services to important people with “image issues”. Lots of “journalists” sell their consciences to the higher bidder or the powerful, be it via salaries or access, or both, so, Why not cashing on the ability to “correct” the record without been perturbed by anybody in Wikipedia?. Then “he” started hiring and the result was this massive, non-stop, 24 x 7, editing operation. But, at that moment, he thought: “uhhmmm, I’m just cashing on those who want to clear their images, Who would be interested in paying to damage images?” Any guess?

        I have to admit that I’m very cynic but, how else one can find the truth.

    • GoAwayAndShutUp

      If it is a bot/troll factory it should be located in Saint Petersburg because, since the creation of the internet, nobody, other than the malign Russians, have ever tried to create fake personas to deceive people.

  • giyane

    I have noticed that solicitors and other organisations that are corrupt often use Christian logos like Trinity in their addresses. Maybe Cross is designed to make you think it is a Christian affiliated , while it may be disinformation from the Islamic or hasbara side, or just plain pagan British bullying by the deep state.

    Apparently we still trust females and Christians enough to have Theresa May as a team mascot. Do we still trust Philips because of HRH. Yes, clean slogans are a little bit thin on the ground. As with Islamic State, which has absolutely nothing to do with Islam or statehood, but a bunch of CIA brain-washed renegades which are shipped in and out of countries that require being plundered by USUKIS by the stooge gewads of the same, like Erdogan. Cameron went to see him shortly after being first elected to start the war against Syria. No doubt May has been showing him her suspenders to get him interested in upsetting Russia or Iran.

    All that all this proves is that Craig as a UK Ambassador did not have clearance to know anything about dirty psyops. Yet somehow he didn’t ever get the hint that the deep state regards an Ambassador as about as important as a green lizard on the embassy office wall.

  • Paul Barbara

    ‘Campaigners against corruption are hailing a “huge win” after the government caved in to pressure to end the secret hoarding of dirty money in UK tax havens’:

    ‘…Theresa May had tried to block the push to reveal who owns assets held in complex shell companies in British overseas territories – but gave way in the face of a significant Tory revolt.
    The U-turn was seen as direct consequence of the poisoning of the former Russian spy Sergei Skripal, in Salisbury – which prompted renewed outrage about the behaviour of corrupt oligarchs.

    Foreign Office minister Sir Alan Duncan told the Commons that a consensual approach working with overseas territories would have been preferred by the government.

    But with defeat looming and a last-ditch bid to avoid it failing, Sir Alan conceded to the demands outlined in a proposal backed by both Labour and Tory MPs……’

    So the Skripal’s hoax turned round and bit poor May…what a shame!

    • Sharp Ears

      Yon Treeza has so little to deal with in her in tray that she was stalking around the Chelsea Flower Show yesterday along with Her Maj and the minor celebs.

  • Charles

    If you take a look at this you may come to the same conclusion as me

    Use the Previous / Next edit function to negotiate around, go back to 13th May when a melt down began

    I think that that Andrew Philip Cross is genuine but very disturbed, being chased off Wiki can only be a good thing for him imho but the loss will be tremendous and I would expect him to return in another guise albeit hopefully a modified behaviour pattern. Thus far he doesn’t understand that his actions cause distress and unpleasantness.

    Or s/he / they is a fabricated loon doing a job for people who are far more disturbed than even his personality reveals. Those journalists that follow him on Twitter are complicit either way.

    If genuine Andrew I wish you well, if you are a malevolent construct your days are numbered anyway.

      • Quiet_Life

        I wonder if it’s as banal as one of the twitter gang stumbling onto this PC character somehow; realising PC’s ‘skill set’ was useful in keeping his/her wiki page sanitized; and then simply hooking PC up with other like minded friends & acquaintances in the media? Let’s hope they’ve been paying PC a small stipend!

        Craig’s blog has proved revelatory to me yet again.

        FWIW, I took juvenile delight in cancelling my long standing, albeit modest, monthly wiki donation [I said “Phillip Cross told me to do it”] and, instead, allocating the same monthly donation to Craig’s site.

  • Hieroglyph

    Ooh, this is interesting. I wonder if there are more Johann Hari’s out there? It all looks a bit like a kind-of secret Whats App group for journo’s, who then go on to Wiki, and cackle. In other words, it all looks a bit conspiratorial, and not in the theoretical sense either.

    Curiouser and curiouser.

  • Jerry Russell

    If someone wants to file a lawsuit against Wikipedia, I believe that it would be very useful to address the issue of editors’ rights. A case in point is the user ‘Mojito Paraiso’, aka ‘Njegos’. While the creation of an article about ‘Philip Cross’ is certainly debatable from Wikipedia notability criteria, the punishment meted out (a “lifetime ban”) is absurdly disproportionate. I myself have tried my hand at Wikipedia editing, and seem similar punishments administered on a regular basis towards editors exhibiting an anti-establishment point of view. There is also hazing and harassment of editors on a regular basis. I am sure that many thousands of editors have been unjustly banned, while thousands more have given up in disgust.

    Editorial decisions at Wikipedia are made by “consensus”, which in practice means by the more vocal and persistent editors. In the long run, by eliminating public advocates, the “consensus” is shifted and the result is the increasing bias in the articles.

    Wikipedia terms of service claim that anyone can edit the encyclopedia. However, the reality is that survival as an editor requires groveling to the admins, many of whom are mysterious, apparently full-time (and, presumably, paid) trolls similar to ‘Philip Cross’. These admins would find themselves outnumbered and insignificant in the crowd-sourced model, if they weren’t able to dominate the conversation at disciplinary noticeboards.

    I also believe that the management (including Jimbo Wales) are fully aware of the situation, and they like it this way. A court case might succeed in restoring some editor rights under the crowd-source model, by changing some of the policies about editor discipline and banning; it would certainly attract public scrutiny to these issues at Wikipedia.

  • Jerry Russell

    Mojito Paraiso’s user page has been purged to prevent casual viewing or editing, but can still be viewed using this ‘diff’ link:

    I completely agree with Mojito’s comment that the block discussion “revealed the sadistic nature of the “editorial” process which appears geared towards revenge.” Somebody really should sue this team of imperious, egotistical so-called “volunteer” admins. Most of these people are anonymous, so the only legal avenue is to go after their “publisher”, Wikimedia.

    • Njegos

      Thank you for your support and of course I agree with your sentiments entirely.

      The legal route is an intriguing possibility, perhaps under the accusation of providing a platform for serial defamation although Wikimedia would presumably argue that Wikipedia rules about sourcing/references are designed, inter alia, to preclude defamation and that editors/administrators have implicit contracts to combat defamation blah, blah, blah….

      The good news is that a related legal process is already underway namely Neil Clark’s upcoming trial against the nasty stalker Oliver Kamm which appears likely to amplify the issue; Clark has carefully documented Cross’ parallel campaign of harassment.

      Meanwhile I do what I can to spread the word about “Crossgate”. It’s gratifying to see how much attention it is now receiving on social media. Hopefully there will come a point when the corporate media and its protege Jimmy Wales can no longer ignore it. Then things will get very interesting.

  • Den Lille Abe

    Well thank you again Mr. Murray , for digging into this matter. I find it very, very chilling indeed. That the establishment acts in a subversive way to the Left and antiwar movement is hardly news, but their methods and ways are almost unbelievable. It makes the revelations of Edward Snowdon all the more credible and truthful.
    We , the public are at war! At war with our own governments that regard our rights and freedoms as something that belong to them.. Me thinks this will end badly in some countries, countries were the inequality will make people desparate.

  • Sharp Ears


    Israel releases Palestinian protesters as footage of arrest goes viral (VIDEO)
    21 May 2018

    An Israeli court has ordered the release of 19 protesters following the emergence of footage showing them being violently arrested at a demonstration Friday. Some 17 Palestinians and two Israelis were among those held.

    The protesters were released by the Haifa Magistrates’ Court Monday after a nine-hour overnight hearing in the northern city. The court threw out the claim by police that the protesters attacked officers. This was after footage shared on social media showed a police punching and kicking people at the scene.

    • Charles Bostock

      Which shows, I believe, that the rule of law is alive and well in Israel. Thank you for bringing this further bit of evidence to our attention.

      • Jo Dominich

        Charles I don’t believe that it is – this decision was made only after it went viral and the police were seen to be violently assaulting the protesters. Had it not gone viral this decision would not have been made. I think to earlier this week when the IDF did a dawn raid on the home of the teenager who has been imprisoned and her 13yr old brother forcefully removed from home, arrested and held in prison. This is barbaric behaviour by anybody’s standards. There is no rule of law by the Israeli’s in Palestine, it is military law they impose. I also think back to the execution of the BBC some years ago – who was approaching an Israeli entry position into Palestine. he was holding his hands up, had Press and BBC written boldly and largely so who he was could not be in doubt and there was a BBC Press van there too. As he approached the Israeli Position, hands up, requesting permission for him and the film crew to enter, an IDF soldier shot him point black in the head – an execution. Israel blocked any UN investigation and the IDF officer was never charged. If this is not an execution, then I don’t know what is – but no legal action was ever taken against the soldier. I wish I had your optimism but I cannot share it.

        • Charles Bostock

          You may be right, Jo. It is certainly the case – in all countries I’d say – that the law sometimes only functions as it should do once a certain publicity has been given to the matter at hand.

  • Sharp Ears

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    May 21st, 2018

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    As a result of our most recent review, we are updating our privacy policy, which now clarifies the definition of “personal information,” and has been reorganized to improve readability without changing the overall intentions previously set by the community. As promised in the policy, we are providing these minor changes with three (3) calendar days’ prior notice. These changes will go into effect on May 24, 2018. As always, we want your thoughts and feedback, and invite everyone to comment on the policy talk page over the next thirty (30) calendar days. We are also grateful to our volunteer community, who are actively working on translations of this policy.

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  • Sharp Ears

    Pathetic little creeps here.

    Philip Cross
    Joined 14 years ago
    Talk Contributions Uploads
    “Julian” = (pseudonym) is a Wikipedian.

    Last edited 23 hours ago by Philip Cross
    Content is available under CC BY-SA 3.0 unless otherwise noted.
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    ‘Congrats on the RT profile

    You must be doing a good job.[1] Snooganssnoogans (talk) 01:16, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

    Nice you got featured twice on RT lol. [2] Nixinova T C 22:38, 21 May 2018 (UTC)’

    They need to get a life.

  • giyane

    Paul Barbara
    May 22, 2018 at 02:10

    ‘Campaigners against corruption are hailing a “huge win” after the government caved in to pressure to end the secret hoarding of dirty money in UK tax havens’:

    Sorry my Reply button isn’t working. Yes, for example Microsoft have taken the opportunity of the new privacy legislation to increase their already massive control over users. We see Wiki now doing the same thing. all in the name of controlling the narrative even more tightly using privacy as a pretext for us not being allowed to ask questions.

    So in that case maybe the entire Skripal fantasy was a planned muscleover by the UK government to enable them to do the same privacy removal for us but privacy control for them about their Russian billionaires. They have therefore applied the thick fog of national security, through the means of the Russian false-flag to prevent the new privacy legislation opening windows on their looney-maundering gravy-train.

    Boris Johnson is the world’s greatest living expert on Russian oligarchs, having filched their pockets while he was mayor. In a competition maybe Trump might even Trump him. In any case the sole reason why the Tories have shot the business community in the foot by accepting Brexit is that it gives them an opportunity to capture our freedoms like CO2 and bury it deep inside a mausoleum of new law.

    There are still some parliamentarians who love our country’s febrile constitution enough to rebel against the Tories achieving this end. The Tories have only one purpose in life, to make criminal cash without being discovered. Or too late to do anything about it in the case of the banking ponzi schemes that unravelled under Brown in 2007. how can you say something bit Mrs May, when it was her own tame wolf that created the entire fiction to conceal Tory corruption in the first place. The Tories feed the wolf of corruption,. We are the ones that are scared.

    • Paul Barbara

      @ giyane May 22, 2018 at 09:12
      So you seem to be of the opinion May is secretly pleased she was over-ridden? The Campaigners don’t seem to think so.
      Of course the Perps will try to get around the rules, and will probably largely succeed.

  • Sharp Ears

    Prince William and Theresa May visit Manchester today to join in the commemoration for the Arena attack.

    If May had not cut police funding, and hence the provision for community police and PCS0s, the bomber might have been identified and the plan thwarted.

    Has his brother been extradited from Libya yet? No. He is being held by a militia group. Pity that Cameron and Sarkozy wrecked Libya and destabilized the country.

    Police planning to bring brother of Manchester Arena suicide bomber …
    6 days ago – Plans for a UK trial of the brother of the Manchester Arena suicide … than six months ago to Libya where Hashem Abedi is currently in custody.

    In any event, May is keeping her war on terrrr alive. Mr Andy Burnham, the Mayor of Manchester, has been all over the media this morning, as was Blair on Radio 4 Today doing his remoaning stuff. His voice is cracking up. If only it could be silenced.

    Didn’t the Blairites do well.

    ‘Extra £7 council tax fee agreed for Greater Manchester mayor
    26 January 2018
    Andy Burnham was elected Mayor of Greater Manchester earlier this year

    An extra charge on this year’s council tax bill has been agreed to pay for Greater Manchester’s mayor.
    Householders will be charged an average of £7 annually to pay for Andy Burnham’s £110,000 salary, as well as his transport and housing plans.

    The precept, agreed unanimously at a meeting of all ten council leaders, will also pay the £730,000 cost of running his office including his wages. The Taxpayers’ Alliance described the council tax rise as “pretty bad news”. Most people in Greater Manchester were not aware they would have to pay between £6 and £18 to have an elected mayor, the group claimed “It’s been snuck up on quite a few Mancunians that was not really announced before,” said the group’s policy analyst Duncan Simpson.’


    • Charles Bostock

      I take it that this is the same “Taxpayers Alliance” that was getting slammed by some commenters a couple of days ago?

      Which just goes to show the subjectivity of all comment – when something like the Taxpayers Alliance says something which accords with the commenter’s personal views, its judgment is welcomed, When the opposite is the case, its judgment is slammed.

      Same with Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and many other bodies and organisations.

      • Jo Dominich

        Charles, I think the previous blogs were about the representative of the Taxpayer’s Alliance being on a series of BBC platforms alongside similar Right leaning panel members. The issue, as I recall, was that the Panels were not representative of a variety of Left/Right organisations, viewpoints etc; they were predominantly right wing voices. The point Craig was making was that there were larger and better representative organisations who could have been invited who had a broader spectrum of focus. I would also comment on your statement about that which accords with the commentators’ personal views. That is not, and I state this most emphatically, not the sole subjectivity of Left wing thinkers. Look at our present Govt – they don’t like what the House of Lords have voted in terms of Brexit, May is going to change it. Likewise, if you look on right wing websites, anyone like me posting a different opinion than theirs gets far more insulted than dissenting voices do on this Blog. Look at the Salisbury fiasco, anyone, even a five year old could see the blatant lies promoted by the Govt – anyone who believes the establishment view of this must be totally void of analytical thinking and deductive reasoning. Yet on a myriad of platforms, the majority of the population are highly critical of the Govt lies. However, they get labelled as ‘Russian Trolls’ or ‘Putin’s friend’ and worse. I believe digressive discourse is welcome on this site but to be taken seriously it has to be objective, not labelling people ‘Lefties’ or Russian Trolls or whatever. Jeremy Corbyn has been the victim of the most vicious, malicious, sustained media campaign by the MSM – yet The Guardian refused to publish a letter submitted by 650 of his supporters rallying to his defence – why is that. That is Censorship by any other name. Jeremy Corbyn has shown grace and wisdom and dignity in not labelling the perpetrators of this malice extreme right wing fascists. So I think it is wrong to suggest that the Left slam things that do not accord with their perspective. The Government, their propaganda machine – the MSM and the BBC – and their supports such as Is***l seek to remove from the news and political narrative any dissenting voices. This is the beginning of a Totalitarian Fascist State. Any dissent to the established view say, in comments in the Telegraph, Yahoo, Guardian and other MSM are promptly removed by the Moderator – on a much larger scale than any Left wing activists do. Jeremy Corbyn, it should be remembered, is Her Majesty’s Leader of the Opposition and is entitled to respect in that role. He is being treated worse than a criminal by the MSM.

  • giyane

    As I have said many times, we are not devious enough to understand the comprehensive evil of our macchiavellian polticians. Or as Satan said to the man who erected a platform from which to gain carnal knowledge of his horse. The man said ” I seek refuge from Allah from Satan the Accursed ”
    and Satan replies ” How many thousands of years I have existed on this planet I never thought of that idea.”

  • Intel Today Ludwig De Braeckeleer

    In July 2007, I concluded that a person — using the ‘SlimVirgin’ pseudonym — was editing sensitive information on Wikipedia. ‘SlimVirgin’ real name was Linda Mack, a person who had been strongly suspected of being an agent or an informant of a Western Intelligence Agency. Two weeks later, I provided incontrovertible evidence that several Intel Agencies, including the CIA, had indeed edited sensible information on Wikipedia. In an interview with George Galloway, journalist Neil Clark explains that ‘SlimVirgin’ is back and teaming up with ‘Philip Cross’. That is subtle or what? Wikipedia & the Spooks — Intel Today

    The Remake? [The Philip Cross Affair]

  • Hatuey

    “If there is hope it lies with the proles…” because the online activists and leftist intellectuals have about as much fight as helium filled balloons.

    If the mainstream media was a guy that you met every day at the bus stop, telling lies continually, one after the other, you’d straightforwardly tell him to get to fuck and stop listening.

    But the left leaning online activists don’t tell him to get to fuck. No. They hang on his every word. They devote themselves to carefully picking his lies apart, day in, day out. And by the time they have picked one lie apart, along comes Mr MSM with a new pack of lies.

    And so it continues, day after day. Welcome to the revolution.

  • Shatnersrug

    I’ve been thinking about this (not much I’ll grant you)

    So the Guardian is skint, Jimmy Wales has lots of income tax he needs to hide, he joins the upper management of the Guardian and all the journalists have their wiki pages wiped clean by a man who Wales appears to defend on twitter ?. Then people who are critical of the paper start having their wiki pages altered to make them look untrustworthy by linking to unfavourable articles in amoungst other mainstream news outlets, the aforementioned newspaper

    There is quite a big story here, no? Maybe the Indy will cover it?! Mirror?

  • giyane

    Sharp Ears

    Last weeks arrival of Erdogan to No 10 should have dispelled any hint of an idea in your mind that Manchester was not a false flag. Erdogan is the one who murdered the journalist in Istanbul airport who was travelling to Kurdistan to report on Daesh crimes against women. He was the one who trasnsported Daesh oil with Kurdistan’s Barzani to Israel and Syria. The current |Home secretary is the mastermind of the entire affair.

    Erdogan received the brand new 4x4s provided by the US for the Daesh to travel from Saudi training camps in Jordan , through Turkey, to Mosul. Any Iraqi politician who wants to stand for election ( in Iraq, not Stratford on Avon ) has to first take instructions from Brett McGurk, who is supreme commander of Islamic State.
    see photos of Daesh leaders being told what to do by the man himself here:

    And why do I carry on making war against the islamist goons during Ramadhan? because we are instructed in the Qur’an not to stop fighting against our enemies in Ramadhan if they don’t stop. Erdogan is using Ramadhan to start a new phase in the war against Islam by Islamist terror.

  • Paul Barbara

    O/T but just too blatant not to at least try to spread:
    Treacherous Moreno has not just moved massively to the Right in Ecuador, he even says he hates the people that voted for him!
    ‘Ecuador’s Lenin Moreno Moves Further Right With New Cabinet’:
    ‘…I mean, Moreno was elected against Guillermo Lasso. Guillermo Lasso was the other candidate- very, very neoliberal. So, you know, Moreno wasn’t the perfect candidate. We always knew he wasn’t the perfect candidate, but facing the threat of a Lasso government, you know, we were all very anxious for his victory.

    What Moreno did over the next few months is, little by little, have people from the Lasso camp, so, the losing camp, coming to his government. Now, he said this was all about “dialogue” and “being very inclusive.” That’s absolutely fine. I mean, being inclusive and dialogue is a good thing, but he actually said at one point that he was very- he actually, in a conversation with bankers, he said that he was very grateful for them. Those are the words he employed. He was very grateful for them not having voted for him and that he was very angry. He had actually used the word hatred, “I have a lot of hatred for the people who voted for me.”…..’

    Have you ever heard the like? What a jerk! Julian Assange’s days in the Embassy are certainly numbered.
    Moreno is a traitor to the people, and should be impeached, and the election result set aside, with new elections held.
    Moreno must be the most hated creature in Ecuador.
    I hope there are Left-wing newspapers and other media to publicise what he has said and done.

  • Graeme Purves

    The possibility that this a snigger-fest for right-wing journalists should not be discounted. Remember the Spanner Set.

  • Mark Rowantree

    As you say Craig, this entire story reeks of SIS involvement, in particular the rather obvious way that no serious attempts have been made to conceal ‘Mr Cross’s’ provenance.
    No doubt it involves a handful of people having been given a nod or a wink in the traditional manner of the ruling elites of the UK?

  • giyane

    Paul Barbara
    May 22, 2018 at 09:33

    “@ giyane May 22, 2018 at 09:12
    So you seem to be of the opinion May is secretly pleased she was over-ridden?”

    The Tories know they have a very short window in which to completely change the UK system in their favour. Corbyn is breathing down their necks like an angry dragon, so they have to engage by putting down a parliamentary gauntlet as soon as possible. Time is of the essence. Tories only job is fixing legislation in their own interests. No Tory politician has a care bone in their body. The complainants among the Tories are plastic soldiers engaging in verbal pwangs, booms and Aaaarghs. She isn not secretly pleased, she is playing Tory politics with airfix models in the hope of gambling some new powers to print money on the great Westminster gravy train.

  • Njegos

    There is something else that doesn’t add up.

    Kamm has always made plain his contempt for the underlying philosophy behind a consensus-driven encyclopedia. You would assume therefore that anyone connected with Wikipedia would be of supreme indifference to him.

    So why does he bother to follow on Twitter a low-life such as Philip Cross who is notorious for his obsessive activity on Wikipedia?


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