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  • Frank

    The early timing here (6-9 March) of the Skripals whereabouts make more sense

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5742937/cops-hunt-blonde-woman-seen-on-cctv-20-mins-before-ex-russian-spy-spy-sergei-skripal-and-daughter-yulia-were-poisoned/

    They walk into town at 1 pm, they liked a drink, it doesn’t answer how their car car was caught on CCTV travelling into town at 1.32pm and being parked in Sainsbury’s carpark.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/chilling-new-cctv-shows-sergei-12189519

    And why the police knew where they were at 1:00pm, they asked the public for help in sighting them between 9:15am – 1:00pm and 1:00 – 1:35pm

    “definitely them, 100per cent.” (the woman with white hair on cctv)

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/chilling-new-cctv-shows-sergei-12189519

    the BBC assist

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43643025

    Police want clearer picture = they want to know any witnesses who saw what really happened

    After the 1:32pm Devizes Road pub CCTV emerged the police chronology changes, they didn’t after all know where the Skripals were before 1:00 now their request for sightings changed to before 1:30pm.

    NBi The occupant(s) of the car were not necessarily the Skripals, it did not necessarily drive directly from the Skripal home, the Skripals (on foot) did not necessarily walk from home. The Skripals and their car had not been “seen” since 9:15am.
    NBii The girl in the Restaurant had reddish brown hair, Yulia in a Moscow airport had reddish brown hair, the girl on the CCTV (white hair red bag) was 100% definitely the girl on the bench.
    NBiii Sergei deliberately drew attention to himself in the Zizzis and was getting agitated because of a time issue.
    NBiv Still no CCTV of the bench incident or body cams although High Quality footage exists.
    NBv Skripals still being held incommunicado
    NBvi The bench incident was staged, a concerned member of public calls emergency services at 4:15pm, the first paramedic arrives within 60 seconds (4:16) then within another 60 seconds a paramedic “runner” arrives and another 60 seconds an ambulance car turns up. Helicopter scrambled at 4.19, takes 10minutes to take off (from Distillery Farm) and flies 15km in the wrong direction before circling a tourist attraction Flying Monk Brewery and then correcting course and flew slowly towards Salisbury ensuring it arrives after the main ambulances had been there for some time. The bench people kept at the scene for nearly one hour before being evac’d.

    Conclusions:
    They couldn’t be arsed getting the hair colour right. (or the researcher is currently walking around with a rocket in his/her bottom)
    The switch took place immediately after Zizzis.
    The Private Devizes pub and Gym in Market Walk CCTV Captures were unwelcome oversights.
    The Skripals were unwilling participants.

    • John Goss

      Frank, don’t know if this has been posted or not but this is a nasty by-product of the Skripal affair. I have to ask: is this another method they are using, together with Brexit, to take away our freedom of movement?

      https://www.rt.com/uk/429026-skripal-border-police-powers/

      It is very dangerous for us all. When you can see what the deep state has doen to take away the freedom of Julian Assange you know too that similar measures can be applied to any of us unless we fight now for our freedoms. It started with the “War on Terror” against Islam after a false-flag incident. Since then we have had the Inquiries Act (2005) enabling an Inquiry to replace a coroner’s inquest, Justice and Security Act (2013) allowing courts to make decisions without public scrutiny and probably a lot more I’ve missed. One of the reasons May and her cronies want Brexit is to remove the safeguard of a European Court finding, as they have done illegally in the case of Julian Assange who, poor man, is being held incommunicado and arbitrarily detained.

      If we do not unite against this it might be too late.

      • Frank

        I’m afraid it is already too late John, next stop revolution.

        We, all of us, have our ‘phone calls, emails and internet traffic recorded. Our mobile gps signals are used to record our movements. CCTV on roads with automatic licence plate recognition and face recognition in towns, cities and buildings all recorded. Our bank and credit card transactions all logged and available with tons of google, facebook and medical record data.

        We are Numbers. The Rule of Law has gone, a High Court Judge when asked to rule on whether Dr David Kelly should have an inquest or not said it was not up to him to decide, he said that if the Attorney General wanted to flout the Law that was entirely up to him and within his gift granted from Parliament. Jack Straw when told by Home Office Lawyers and Attorney General that it would be illegal for Britain to take part in the illegal invasion of Iraq and the War of Aggression responded by saying it was quite correct for them to give their advice but it was up to him whether he took it or not. Parliament decided to take no action over those crimes and the lies to Parliament.

        Yes the individual can be locked up for nothing, Courts held in secret, crimes by State Actors ignored. Not just the individual, Syria can be accused and bombed with no evidence, Russia can be accused and punished without evidence, the main witnesses kept locked away and forbidden from speaking to their family, lawyers or Embassy.

        I am afraid it’s already too late John. Get used to the Totalitarian New World or wait and see what the consequences of that are.

        • John Goss

          Yes Frank. Dr David Kelly was the reason they introduced the Inquiries Act. When Hutton sat it was illegal but Tony Blair could get around the law to protect the state – illegal or not. Don’t despair. Percy Bysshe Shelley got the maths right at the end of The Mask of Anarchy. We are the majority and they cannot imprison us all. Not yet anyway. And when the sleeping sheep wake up break out of their pens you might get your revolution.

          • Frank

            I suspect the beginning of the change will happen this summer. British rioters prefer good weather.

            Contagion will be the catalyst. France has seen continuous civil unrest throughout this year, Macron has Tooled Up and provided additional resources to suppress his wage payers with a fascist force also paid for by the taxpayers . Unrest is endemic throughout Europe and the international disgust with Israel is at breaking point.

            The thick stupid greedy psychopathic bastards have brought it on themselves, they took all the money and then wanted more. They killed millions in senseless illegal wars and made millions more homeless family-less and nation-less and they want to kill and displace more. They abandoned the Rule of Law, Democracy, Justice and Truth.

            When you have nothing left to lose you become a very dangerous commodity hence the spike in lawlessness in our capital and elsewhere.

            Israel deploys snipers, cameramen ahead of Gaza border riots
            June 8, 2018 4:59am

            https://www.jta.org/2018/06/08/news-opinion/israel-deploys-100s-snipers-cameramen-ahead-gaza-border-riots

  • Andyoldlabour

    The BBC “news” this morning had the latest Russophobic scare story about the upcoming World Cup.
    It was saying that the foreign office are warning England supporters that they could face homophobic/racist/mysoginistic remarks or even attacks if they travel to Russia, and there is always the chance of terrorist attacks.

    https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/russia

    They do however say that 177,000 British people visited Russia in 2016 and most of them had no problems.
    However, the Gaurdian and others have gone completely OTT.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/08/world-cup-england-gay-lgbt-fans-safety-risk-russia-say-mps

    • John Goss

      I saw that. They have no shame. You have to feel sorry for the news-readers who must be really embarrassed having to read out such shit. I know I would.

      As to the LGBT brigade, I have to say it is true that Russians are more traditional with traditional family values, and may take offence at overt homosexual demonstrations of affection. They are not likely to attack any members of the gay community. They are more likely to shrug their shoulders or shake their heads. Russia is underpopulated and does not need extra methods of birth-control fostered by the same MSM that gives you Russophobia.

    • bj

      George Galloway had a comment about this is TMOATS of June 1st (online on YouTube).

    • Haydn

      Hilarious that.

      It was saying that the foreign office are warning England supporters that they could face homophobic/racist/mysoginistic remarks or even attacks if they travel to Russia, and there is always the chance of terrorist attacks.

      Those are precisely the remarks you can expect from the average England hooligan. Any gay fans will get more shit from the England terraces than anywhere else.

      Laughable.

      • iain

        Exactly. Where are the warnings to nonwhite, gay and female fans about the abuse they’re likely to receive from the travelling army of pot bellied baldies?

        • Paul Barbara

          @ iain June 8, 2018 at 14:35
          ‘…travelling army of pot bellied baldies…’
          What, you mean Tommy Robinson’s mates?

  • Sharp Ears

    Statement from Jeremy Corbyn. 6 June 2018

    The West Is Turning a Blind Eye to the Gaza Massacre
    ‘I have asked for this statement to be read out at this evening’s Right of Return demonstration in London for justice for the Palestinian people:

    In recent weeks, scores of unarmed Palestinian civilians have been killed in Gaza by Israeli forces. Hundreds have been wounded. Most are refugees or the families of refugees from what is now Israel, and they have been demonstrating for their right to return, week after week.

    The killing of Razzan Najjar, the 22 year old medical volunteer shot by an Israeli sniper in Gaza on Friday, is the latest tragic reminder of the outrageous and indiscriminate brutality being meted out, under orders from the Netanyahu government.

    The silence, or worse support, for this flagrant illegality, from many western governments, including our own, has been shameful.

    Instead of standing by while these shocking killings and abuses take place, they should take a lead from Israeli peace and justice campaigners: to demand an end to the multiple abuses of human and political rights Palestinians face on a daily basis, the 11-year siege of Gaza, the continuing 50-year occupation of Palestinian territory and the ongoing expansion of illegal settlements.

    President Trump’s decision to recognise Jerusalem as Israel’s capital city, and move the US embassy there, in violation of international agreements, has demonstrated that the US has no claim to be any kind of honest broker for a political settlement of the Israel-Palestine conflict.

    A sustainable, just peace between Israelis and Palestinians, that recognises the rights and security of all, and puts an end to the continuing dispossession of the Palestinian people, is an interest we all share, in the Middle East and far beyond.

    We cannot turn a blind eye to these repeated and dangerous breaches of international law. The security of one will never be achieved at the expense of the other. And that is why we are committed to reviewing UK arms sales to Israel while these violations continue.

    The UK Government’s decision not to support either a UN Commission of Inquiry into the shocking scale of killings of civilian protesters in Gaza, or the more recent UN resolution condemning indiscriminate Israeli use of force – and calling for the protection of Palestinians – is morally indefensible.

    Britain, which is a permanent UN security council member and has a particular responsibility for a peaceful and just resolution of the Israel-Palestine conflict, should ensure there is a credible independent investigation, genuine accountability and effective international action to halt the killings – and bring Gaza’s ever-deepening humanitarian crisis to an end.’
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-west-is-turning-a-blind-eye-to-the-gaza-massacre/5643374

    Good on him. Two things though. It is not a CONFLICT. It is an OOCUPATION to which there is legitimate resistance. The Occupation has lasted from 1948, so 70 years, not 50 Jeremy. The statement is on his Facebook page. Why is he using Facebook?

    and :The Great March of Return and Israel’s Attack on Gaza: Canadian Opposition
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-great-march-of-return-and-israels-attack-on-gaza-canadian-opposition/5641281?

    • John Goss

      “. . . It is not a CONFLICT. It is an OCCUPATION to which there is legitimate resistance. The Occupation has lasted from 1948, so 70 years, not 50 Jeremy?”

      Yes, it is an occupation. 2,000 years ago the occupiers were Romans and many of the oppressed were Jewiish so their history in the region in terms of humankind’s presence is quite recent. God did not give them the land. They stole it. The Mosaic exodus led to Joshua and his army demolishing the walls of Jericho murdering its inhabitants and occupying the town. History repeats itself with the proposed demolition of a Bedouin village on the road to Jericho.

      https://www.thenational.ae/world/mena/israel-court-orders-west-bank-bedouin-village-to-be-demolished-1.733768

      Where are the anti-apartheid campaigners today? There are a lot.but they cannot get access to MSM any more. So the campaign is being driven underground.

    • John Goss

      “. . . It is not a CONFLICT. It is an OCCUPATION to which there is legitimate resistance. The Occupation has lasted from 1948, so 70 years, not 50 Jeremy?”

      Yes, it is an occupation. 2,000 years ago the occupiers were Romans and many of the oppressed were Jooiish so their history in the region in terms of humankind’s presence is quite recent. God did not give them the land. They stole it. The Mosaic exodus led to Joshua and his army demolishing the walls of Jericho murdering its inhabitants and occupying the town. History repeats itself with the proposed demolition of a Bedouin village on the road to Jericho.

      https://www.thenational.ae/world/mena/israel-court-orders-west-bank-bedouin-village-to-be-demolished-1.733768

      Where are the anti-apartheid campaigners today? There are a lot.but they cannot get access to MSM any more. So the campaign is being driven underground.

    • joeblogs

      Mr. Corbyn is controlled opposition. I think it took him by surprise when he became leader of the ‘Labour’ Party; he had to confront the fact that his supporters expect him to consistently maintain his support for Palestinians, but his new ‘owners’ thought otherwise. This is why, in the first paragraph of his statement he does not say ‘murdered’ but ‘killed’ – by an avalanche, perhaps? And there were not ‘hundreds’ wounded, but over ten thousand, some only children. He is clearly ameliorating his speech, and, if he should become PM, will turn about face completely. They all do.
      As author Alfred Noyes wrote in the preface to his book, ‘The Edge of the Abyss’ (published in 1942): “It would be a terrible tragedy, if the enemy we are fighting (Nazism) were to be foisted on us under another name”. Profoundly prophetic words.
      This it turns out, is exactly what has happened.
      A country of soulless psychopaths – Israel. They need mental help, or spiritual, otherwise when they die they will remain dust forever – forgotten.

    • Antonyl

      The G7 does not include China, Russia or India. Now Trump and Italy want Russia back in. Macron and Trudeau say they can manage without Trump.
      What a silly little club these people: J7 (Jokers) is a better description.

    • truthwillout

      May’s contribution to the debate at G7 was to harp on about Salisbury (and invading the Ukraine). Repeated by Edwina Currie on Any Questions. Audience, interestingly, silent. Is picking fights with a proud nation really all this government have got left…

  • quasi_verbatim

    Quisling has come out and biffed Boris, a Friend of Scots Independence after Brexit, ‘pro bono publico’.
    What further proof do you need?

  • jazza

    In what way does the ‘charitable organisation’ Bilderberg represent the people of the planet?
    Can the prime monster please explain why she is in attendance at Bilderberg (with her darling little hubby, again – is he publically funded too?) and why she uses public funds to fly in using airflop one?
    Does Trump think he runs the G7 as well as the planet?
    Is this not a golden opportunity to remove thes fascist pigs all at once – just where are the ‘terrorists’ when you need them??

      • Sharp Ears

        Mods Could you please remove that unpleasant remark at 15.08. It is an ad hominem on Jeremy Corbyn. He is the Leader of Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition and should be shown respect.

        See Urban Dictionary for jizzing.. It is not a word in my own vocabulary but I guessed it would be something like that.

        • Paul Barbara

          @ Sharp Ears June 8, 2018 at 15:45
          I think you got the wrong end of the stick there – CB’s comment was apparently a ‘response’ to the commenter jazza
          June 8, 2018 at 14:57, not anything to do with Jeremy Corbyn (not that it makes any sense, but that’s CB).

          • Charles Bostock

            You’re right, Paul, and thank you for pointing it out to Sharpie.

            I wonder if you were as amused as I was to hear her call for “respect” to be shown (on this blog) for Jeremy Corbyn because he’s the leader of the Opposition. This from someone who herself regularly disses the Prime Minister and various members of the government! I honestly think she’s starting to lose it.

          • Paul Barbara

            @ Charles Bostock June 8, 2018 at 16:08
            The difference is, May and Co. seriously deserve more than ‘dissing’, for their austerity policies and war-mongering based on lies.
            Whereas, JC is a breath of fresh air. Not perfect, but ‘only God is good’.

          • Sharp Ears

            Jeremy Corbyn is referred to as Jazza.

            The board is being filled by stupid comments from you know who. Diversions a’plenty.

        • Kempe

          Then Theresa May as Leader of Her Majesty’s Government should be shown equal or greater respect.

          Thought not.

          • Herbie

            Disrespect to authority used to be a big British tradition.

            Going way back.

            Where’d that go.

          • laguerre

            “Disrespect to authority used to be a big British tradition.”

            When was that? The British, and more particularly the English, are the most forelock-tugging, obedient, people on the face of the earth. If we had been otherwise, the upper class and the monarchy would have been gone long ago. Indeed you can argue that it was that that won us the 1WW – anyone else would have mutinied, and indeed did.

          • Herbie

            I thought it was an accepted feature of British society. Perhaps it was simply a media construction.

            “The British, and more particularly the English, are the most forelock-tugging, obedient, people on the face of the earth. If we had been otherwise, the upper class and the monarchy would have been gone long ago.”

            Well, they were in a way, weren’t they. The English were earliest with their revolution.

            But even that was top down.

            So, you could be right even though I’m sure there was the perception that the English were an independent bolshie lot.

    • Paul Barbara

      @ jazza June 8, 2018 at 14:57
      ‘..just where are the ‘terrorists’ when you need them??…’
      Guarding the venue!

    • Paul Barbara

      @ jazza June 8, 2018 at 14:57
      I just remembered, I said exactly the same thing – ‘where are the ‘terrorists’ when you need them?’ – on my megaphone at the Watford Bilderberg demo a few years back. A cop gave me a filthy look.
      It was a great demo – three days of hot weather, and camaraderie, in a field in sight of the hotel where the Bilderbergers were discussing their Luciferian plans for wars and furthering their agendas for the control of the ‘sheeple’ (those who weren’t destined to be culled, that is).

      • Kempe

        ” A cop gave me a filthy look ”

        I know.. you told him you’d already got one!

        Boom- tish!!

      • John Goss

        I was there at Watford. Like you say great weather. Alex Jones was one of the speakers at the fringe. At Watford one of the items on the Bilderberg agenda was “The Challenge of Africa” but there were no representatives from Africa. Did you notice this year on the Bilderberg list they have actually got people from Africa? Many media representatives are involved. Who owns the media? Only a few Brits this year and only two UK politicians, George Osborne, who is also editor of the Standard, and Amber Rudd. Kissinger is going to be there again but they’ve taken him off the steering-group.

    • Dave Lawton

      jazza
      June 8, 2018 at 14:57

      “In what way does the ‘charitable organisation’ Bilderberg represent the people of the planet?”
      It only represents themselves and they have sworn to support the EU and themselves.They see the masses as ignorant.
      It was Co-founded by a dodgy ex SS Nazi and there is a case that he was part of Gladio.

    • bj

      He’ll have changed his mind come Monday.

      Like someone said here — not that he runs the G7.

  • Pyotr Grozny

    There’s an even better report on German questions over the Skripal Case, which was on the main German TV news show Tageschau.

    https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/skripal-159.html

    It says Berlin is still waiting for evidence from Britain and speaks of ‘Massive Diplomatic Consequences’

    Let’s hope this gets unravelled from Germany.

      • truthwillout

        Fantastic point! They obviously believed Bush first time around. But they weren’t fooled twice, because Germany kept well away from the “liberation” of Iraq.

    • John Goss

      Pyotr Grozny (is that some kind of amalgamation of Peter the Great and Ivan the Terrible?) it is heartening to know that most of the German public appear not to trust Theresa May and Boris Johnson’s account of “Blame Russia”. I actually think the Yanks at Porton Down set up the British government with this false flag. As one of the commenters mentioned Novichok (as the Yanks labeled it) or whatever military-grade organophosphate that was used can only be prepared wearing protective clothing and it cannot be shipped around without endangering people, all people, nearby, so if it was a military grade nerve agent it was prepared on the spot.

      It might seem laughable now, but the all-important bench (evidence) was destroyed (anybody know how they do that?) because it was so badly contaminated. Remember that? Auntie covered it if you can still get a copy. But the Germans are not going to be happy and are very impatient for the concrete proof that got four of their diplomats expelled from Russia. Austria was wise enough not to expel any. Like Jeremy Corbyn they wanted to see the proof first!

  • Tony_0pmoc

    Maybe President Trump is a genius. I can’t believe I am reading this. Europe should have told the US to eff off years ago, with Trump supposedly running the ship, it is relatively easy. The implications of this, if carried through “Yankees go home” are phenomenal.

    I never expected The French, particularly Macron to have any backbone, to actually grow a spine. They haven’t had a decent leader since De Gaulle pulled France out of NATO in 1967. We haven’t had a decewnt leader since Harold Wilson, told them to do one at about the same time. No the UK is not going to war with Vietnam. You Americans are mad. Eff Off.

    Such class has recently been sorely lacking.

    “Macron turns on Trump after US president attacks EU and Canada: ‘We don’t mind being G6, if needs be’”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/g7-macron-trump-g6-summit-latest-eu-canada-trudeau-theresa-may-updates-a8389111.html

    Tony

    • Paul Barbara

      @ Tony_0pmoc June 8, 2018 at 16:01
      And he was removed by the ‘Lady Falkender’ honey-trap.

      • Tony_0pmoc

        Harold Wilson is the only political leader, I have actually bothered going to see.

        He stood on a Fruit Box in Oldham outdoor market and used a loud hailer.

        I was too young to vote, but my older brother seriously annoyed be, by being pro-the Vietnam War, and also joining the young conservatives.

        As he was also a member of The Territorial Army, RAMC, Harold Wilson, saved him from the horrors of going to Vietnam.

        Otherwise, he was completely brilliant.

        He never went to war.

        Thank you Harold Wilson. You inspired me.

        Tony

        • Paul Barbara

          @ Tony_0pmoc June 8, 2018 at 17:21
          I’ve seen Jeremy many, many times, at Demos and Solidarity meetings.
          I even saw Bojo once; he really is a ‘bounder’ (and a cad and a dastard to boot)!
          He came bounding towards a hall at the Elephant and Castle, where he was campaigning for Mayor, and was supposed to debate with Ken Livingstone. Livingstone did not appear, for some reason, and I think John Pilger took his place.
          As Bojo bounded towards the hall door, I gave him a leaflet (9/11 Truth).

          • Tony_0pmoc

            It may have been Jeremy who turned up at my local pub a few years ago on a Sunday afternoon. He sat down in the sunshine and had a pint with me. We talked about absolutely everything except politics. It may have not been him, but he was the spittin’ image of Jeremy Corbyn. I am pretty sure I took a photograph of him, and someone took a photograph of both of us together.

            I however, have no evidence whatsoever that it was Jeremy Corbyn (well except the photo which will probably be somewhere in the archives)

            Whether or not it was, I thought he was a very nice man.

            He is bound to get a lot of look-alikes, but I have not seen him since.

            Tony

          • Tony_0pmoc

            Paul Barbara,

            It was nothing to do with that, which is a different story.

            Another guy who is actually quite famous, and who I have seen many times, yet had never actually spoken to, may have been at the same gig. I spoke to him at half time for the first time. I found him incredibly soft spoken and well, shy (the complete opposite of how he performs on stage).

            He was asking me what it would be like.

            We had been there before, but he hadn’t.

            I said you will go down a storm mate.

            So the band turned up at a Festival in Spain – and headlined it, and went down a storm.

            He ain’t English, and don’t think he often plays where he comes from. (Scotland)

            He’s a very nice man too.

            We shall be seeing him soon.

            He’s a Musician

            Tony

        • truthwillout

          He was indeed a great leader. Why doesn’t that get acknowledged by the political pundits. On radio 4 this week i was told that he won three elections. Really, Nick Robinson?

      • Herbie

        And all subsequently overturned.

        Much more Atlanticist actors replacing them.

        But now we’re back to anti-Atlanticism, the dominant theme again.

        All those neocon years, a complete dead end and waste of so much else.

  • Sharp Ears

    2.30pm – 10.26pm Monday
    11.30am – 7.23pm Tuesday
    11.30am – 7.26pm Wednesday
    9.30am – 5.30pm Thursday
    Friday off

    Who has those easy hours? The MPs of course. No zero hours contracts for them or minimum hourly rate.

    £77,379pa basic plus plus and not forgetting that many of them have another salaried job(s) and go on freebie trips to foreign countries..
    https://www.newstatesman.com/2018/03/mps-have-had-yet-another-pay-rise-77000-fair-salary-politician

    The NHS staff have accepted a pay rise 6.5% over three years. That does not even cover inflation and rising prices of rent, food, fuel, parking etc.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-44413436

    • Charles Bostock

      OUR NHS “diversity managers” at £45000 pr annum.

      The NHS has a far too big tail – far too many managers and secretaries, to name just a few . Cut them back and spend the money on front-line services!

      • Paul Barbara

        @ Charles Bostock June 8, 2018 at 16:13
        Steady on, Charles! You’re beginning to sound sensible!

        • Tony_0pmoc

          He does occasionally make sense. My real sister worked for the NHS all her life. She taught nursing too. Our friend (likewise)..I call her my Sis, but she isn’t really. She is just a brilliant friend.

          They both got paid, next to bugger all.

          It makes me cry when such dedicated professional human beings, spend all their lives, doing the best they possibly can for others – to save lives – in often appalling circumstances, and they are paid so little, whilst they are controlled by an enormous incompetent bureaucracy that pay each other so much to make completely ridiculous decisions, like closing down all local hospitals within 20 miles, to maintain their millionaire lifestyles.

          Tony

    • Paul Barbara

      @ Sharp Ears June 8, 2018 at 16:07
      And they don’t even have to show up at all, if they wish. And how much of the time they are present in the House, do they spend in the bar?

      • Sharp Ears

        I think you should say bars, plural. I believe there are eight, all heavily subsidized.

        Just looked. Yes. Eight. Plus the other stuff.

        https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/mar/15/parliamentary-bars-what-really-like

        NHS Staff are charged for parking. When I broke my wrist, the orthopaedic surgeon who treated me told me that he was called in on a Sunday to treat a woman who had fallen from her horse and was badly injured. He tried the staff parking area, full, the medics car park, full so in the end left his car in a bay used for short stay surgical patients’ visitors, not used on a Sunday. He got back to his car after some hours operating to find a £70 ticket on his car. No leeway was given by the outfit to whom the Trust had outsourced the car park, built using public money and maintained by the hospital. This car parking outfit (originally a couple of taxi drivers made good) are taking over £1.5m pa from the patients and visitors. Nobody will say how much of this is being returned to the NHS. The minimum charge in the car park is £4 for 2 hrs! The staff have to pay separately in £hundreds pa (£400 upwards dependent on their grade) for a space in another car park distant from the hospital and are then bussed in. Can you imagine a nurse or doctor coming off duty at night and going through that palaver when he or she is dead on their feet?

  • quasi_verbatim

    Barnier trolls May: ‘Backstop is backstop’.

    The Donald smooches Putin: ‘Come back to G7, all is forgiven’.

    The Skripal Porker has backfired.

    • Radar O’Reilly

      @q.v. unbelievable levels of historic “blowback” is the definitive term, more serious than just a Skripal backfire. [random definition here , avoiding the work of p.cross https://www.elitedaily.com/news/world/spook-talk-101/1008588 ]

      May’s régime will certainly go down in history, for all the wrong reasons!

      Meanwhile, as the eminent Luxembourger President Juncker will step dow in 17 short months, there are rumours of Barnier being a front-runner to take over the lean management of the EU. Other serious candidates are Slovak Maroš Šefčovič or the trusted (schooled in Bethesda, Maryland – no less) Christine Lagarde of the IMF. I support all of them, UK might have a bit less faith in the post-exit times, should it ever happen.

      • bj

        May’s régime will certainly go down in history, for all the wrong reasons!

        Down is the right direction, methinks.

  • Sharp Ears

    SNP Conference today and tomorrow.

    Keith Brown elected as deputy leader in place of Angus Robertson.

    Tomorrow – Delegates will debate issues including paternity leave, limiting executive pay, the situation in Gaza and women in the justice system.

    And there will be speeches from senior SNP figures including Deputy First Minister John Swinney, the party’s Westminster leader, Ian Blackford. and Scotland’s Brexit secretary, Michael Russell.

    Clara Ponsati, the pro-independence Catalan politician who is fighting against being extradited from Scotland to Spain, will also address the conference ahead of Ms Sturgeon’s speech on Saturday.

    Mr Blackford used his speech on Friday to argue that it would be a “democratic outrage” if the UK government forces through the EU Withdrawal Bill next week against the wishes of Holyrood.

    And he predicted the move would haunt the Tories for generations,’

    Sarah Smith – Analysis by Sarah Smith, Scotland editor
    ‘All Under One Banner march Photo
    Tens of thousands of independence supporters marched through Glasgow last month. Nicola Sturgeon may be happy to bide her time until the circumstances are more favourable toward a second independence vote.

    But many of her grassroots are getting restless. Huge rallies in recent weeks have attracted tens of thousands of enthusiastic supporters, many of whom march under the banner “Independence Now” and use the hashtag #readytogo.

    Ms Sturgeon galvanised them into action last year with her call for another referendum. And having marched them halfway up the hill, the SNP leader isn’t sure how to get them down again. She would rather start a long and detailed conversation about the prospects and possibilities for an independent Scotland which is aimed at people who voted No in 2014.

    The Growth Commission plans have already prompted No voters to look at the arguments afresh, argues the first minister.

    Those same economic plans have also enraged many on the left of the Yes movement, who dismiss the emphasis on deficit reduction and tight public spending as “austerity lite”.

    It may prove impossible to simultaneously reassure nervous No voters that independence is safe – while also exciting more idealistic Yes supporters about how radical it could be.’

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-44397652

    There will be live coverage of the conference – including the deputy leadership result – on the BBC news website, with Ms Sturgeon’s speech also being broadcast live on BBC2 Scotland from 15:15 on Saturday.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    My son has got more than one toilet, in the home, that he is in the process of buying. He says none of them work properly. The valves are stuck permanently open. I said, well you should be able to fix that, its easy, you do not need a plumber – you have all the mechanical skills youself.

    He said, yes Dad, but can you come and have a look.

    Apparently I am the expert at fixing toilets

    He’s bought a boat.

    I said, yeh all right then. I will take my mask,snorkel, flippers, and my Dad’s spanners and stillson wrenches

    Have you got an underwater torch?

    What is the matter with young people today?

    No its not The Leeds Liverpool canal, but apparently it does float.

    Tony

    • bj

      Doesn’t a houseboat have access to at least one functioning, self-flushing toilet?

      • bj

        Thanks for your reply, and I really loved the anecdote in your comment that I was replying to; a bit of literature, almost. 🙂

      • bj

        They deleted our comments here, Tony_0pmoc.
        I wonder why — can’t find any reason.

  • Tony_0pmoc

    byThis is a hard subject to write about, because it affects nearly everyone I know.

    Cancer is real. My brother got it bad when he was 29, he took the treatment and survived till he was 55.

    My eldest sister, who had the same problem as my brother (myatonia congenita) took the drugs, because it almost completely eliminated the symptoms. She got cancer when she was 50, and she survived till she was 55.

    My other brother, fit as a fiddle all his life, didn’t have the inherited muscular disease, smoked like a chminey, and died of cancer when he was 64.

    Both my cousins died of cancer in their 50’s

    My one surviving sister, has been told she has got cancer.

    My Dad died of cancer at the age of 72.

    So far as I am aware, there is nothing wrong with my wife nor me, and we have already outlived a lot of our peers.

    We do not take any drugs.

    We cook at home with fresh produce. We both take lots of exercise and get lots of sunshine.

    We very rarely if ever go to the doctors…unless something catastrophic happens (like my wife being run over by a car)

    Most people our age, have been going to the doctors regularly for the last 20 years, and they have been prescribed drugs for ..do you want a list – an MOT check? They are almost certain to find something wrong with you, so they can prescribe you drugs….

    Then when you kep going back (especially the women) they say -well you must have these tests…

    They say you are going to die – you have got cancer – unless you take the treatment.

    The real truth about Breast Cancer, is that more than 50% of people diagnosed with it, who have actually had all of the treatment includng breast removal, have lived as long as 10 years in a living hell, knowing that they are going to die, yet if they had never gone to the doctors, and never had the diagnosis, they would never have known there was anything wrong with them.

    They would still be happy, and still alive, and even if they did have a trace of cancer, their body would have naturally healed itself, in a very large percentage of cases.

    Check out the statistics of false cancer diagnosis, if you don’t believe me, and read some research on the subject…and don’t go to the doctors, unless there is something seriously wrong with you.

    If you are feeling fine, most of the time, don’t go anywhere near them.

    The nurses are great, and they hardly ever get ill, because they do not take the drugs, yet they are exposed to all these diseases on a daily basis, by lots of people. Their immune system protects them, if they do not take the drugs. My sister took the drugs for cosmetic reasons. I have never taken them, though I do occasionally find my walking stick useful.

    Now, I have got that off my chest, I am going to have a beer and a smoke.

    These guys come from my wife’s hometown.

    “The Verve – The Drugs Don’t Work”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQ0n3itoII

    Tony

    • John Goss

      Wisdom Tony.

      Last week I went for my annual MOT with the nurse who took a blood sample, weighed me (I’ve put on a few kilos) but I told her it was because of the wet weather. Nobody likes cycling in the cold rain. She said I was still well within the range for my height and age and I know I will get it off (I’m under 80 kilos). For years I have suffered from what they call “white coat syndrome”. My blood-pressure goes up whenever they put that armband BP monitor on. They know this. But still they want to put me on pills again. Anyway after the blood test I was told they would not contact me unless they found there was something wrong. More than two years ago I stopped taking about four lots of tablets without the consent of my doctor. We have discussed this more than once.

      Today I noticed a missed call from the practice back on Wednesday so I phoned in anticipation of bad news. My results were back and the doctor wanted to discuss medication for the blood-pressure problem, which when monitored at home is acceptable, after a few attempts, (If you know about BP my diastolic is usually in the 50 to 70 range and sometimes as low as 48 – very low. My systolic is the problem ranging from 118 to 212). Since I stopped taking all that crap they want us on I have felt so much better. I told the receptionist that I thought it was about the blood test but I was surprised it had come back so soon. It was back and fine. My cholesterol was 5.6. That was better than when I was on statins. Some diabetes test was I think about 37 but nothing to worry about and they would do the renal test, which was satisfactory, again next year.

      The anxiety over a missed call was quelled. Last year when my doctor phoned I referred him to the work of Dr Malcolm Kendrick whose blog is almost as big as this, and I never got another call. One day I will be dead. But I will not be carrying any Big Pharma baggage in my carcass. However Tony I think you should stop smoking. The two main pieces of advice advice from Dr Kendrick which agrees with general medical opinion is that smoking is bad and exercise is good.

      • glenn_nl

        Good news, John, glad to hear it.

        I used to smoke, and it took a fair bit of effort to kick it. Put on a few lbs – thought nothing of it, my weight had always been virtually constant. Heck, lose those pounds in a few weeks, once I’ve quit the Jones from the fags.

        Turned out, it was a heck of a lot more difficult to shift an extra stone and a half gained, than I could have believed.

        The Dutch lifestyle of cycling everywhere, plus the advantage of having a gym at work to use daily, has finally got that ship turned around. It was worrying – getting out of a rut of becoming overweight takes some serous effort.

        Anyway, all that happened because I’d quit smoking. There are very interesting changes to the metabolism when one smokes, which gives the appearance of a healthy shape – particularly when you’re pushing into your 30s – despite an unhealthy, gut-expanding lifestyle.

        The sooner you quit the better.

        Couldn’t agree with you more, John.

        • John Goss

          As a former smoker Glenn I did not find it easy to quit. In fact I stopped twice before (once can you believe for eighteen months). Well-meaning friends advised me that one cigarette would do no harm and I was soon back on a very powerful dependent drug. At thirty, with the help of a friend, I kicked the habit for good.

          Now I walk the dogs, play some golf and cycle. I’m still too partial to a drink but very rarely before 9 pm.

      • Tony_0pmoc

        John Goss,

        I had all that 15 years ago, and flushed them down the bog. I haven’t been back since, except once, for the same problem..Ear infection from diving in polluted water. Please can I have some – anti-bacterial ear drops. It’s not nice being deaf in one ear, and olive oil hasn’t worked.

        I will probably get it again soon, but I hardly ever use antibiotics, but some natural biotics are especially good for girls.

        Fresh natural yoghurt is far better than anything else for preventing Thrush.

        My wife gets it every morning for breakfast, soon with fresh fruit from our garden.

        You are as fit as a fiddle. I’ve read your blog. So far as I remember, you’ve only fallen off your bike once..coming back from the pub.

        What were you drinking?

        We will be down your way very soon.

        We do go to festivals in Brummie Land too.

        My sister-in-law went to Birmingham University. She is a geneticist. You may have been in the same year.

        Tony

        • John Goss

          You made me laugh Tony reminding me of falling off my bike returning home from the pub. I should have put it in a lower gear going up that incline.

          “What were you drinking?” Mostly wine. I think it helped numb the pain at the time. I have a lump where the collar-bone has not knitted properly but it gives me no pain and does not restrict my movement

          I was at Birmingham University from 1980-1983. My masters (completed 2011) I did part-time from home so only saw my supervisors from time to time.

          I think there is a Jake Thackray event next weekend at the Spotted Dog. I might try and get along since I know one of the organisers quite well.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEkKwYUDPwY

      • Paul Barbara

        @ John Goss June 8, 2018 at 23:29
        It would be a good idea to keep a log of your home blood pressure readings, then show them to your doctor.
        High blood pressure is known as the ‘Silent Killer’ – it frequently shows no symptoms (though nose bleeds are a definite indication).

        • SA

          PB
          High blood pressure is not the commonest cause of nose bleeding and in fact this would be a rather late symptom of very high BP. Your advice to Tony is good, because it is more representative of BP in normal life and avoids the phenomenon of ‘white coat hypertension.
          Tony
          Cancer is getting commoner because people are living longer and because other causes of early death are reducing. The other big killer is heart disease often with a conglomerate of other conditions, referred to as ‘the metabolic syndrome’. This is a group of associated conditions, including obesity, high blood pressure, and also diabetes. Many of the problems associated with this can be addressed by weight reduction. I would say that a healthy diet, no smoking, moderate alcohol, keeping an ideal weight are all good things to do to avoid seeing doctors and keep healthy. But when you need them they are there for you.
          Also Tony, there is no doubt that some cancers caught early, can be cured easily without major side effects, so please do not entirely loose your trust in doctors.

  • Jiusito

    Jonathan Powell has just said on Newsnight that “the Russians murdered Skripal”. They can’t even make the effort to get the story right now.

    • truthwillout

      Yes, I heard that too. Hope it was a genuine slip… And they weren’t just following the latest Teresa May rhetoric for her G7 buddies… If so would explain a lot about Trumps er… behaviour…

    • Herbie

      Interesting slip, but still the same tired, failed old nonsense.

      For domestic consumption only.

      The rest of the world is moving on.

    • Sharp Ears

      Jonathan Powell? Chief of Staff in Tony’s sofa cabinet? Liars all. Do they ever have nightmare about what they did to the Iraqi people? Probably not.

      That is why the BBC give them airtime.

      ‘Tony Blair’s Eternal Shame: The Report
      Geoffrey Wheatcroft
      October 13, 2016

      [..]
      ‘Today it’s hard to recapture the mood of less than two decades ago, and the wave of adulation when Blair first entered Downing Street. Soon that adulation had washed across the Atlantic: well before The New York Times was writing about the “Blair Democrats,” Paul Berman had called Blair “the leader of the free world.” It would have gone to the head of a naturally humble man. Both Turnbull and Jonathan Powell, Blair’s erstwhile chief of staff, have spoken of his “Messiah complex,” without irony, alas: he really did come to believe that he was a new redeemer of mankind.’

      http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2016/10/13/tony-blairs-eternal-shame-chilcot-report/

  • James

    Protest in Sydney, Sunday 17 June, to demand freedom for Julian Assange
    https://candobetter.net/node/5518
    https://candobetter.net/JulianAssange

    At 1:00pm on Sunday 17, there will be a demonstration at the Town Hall Square in Sydney to demand freedom for the heroic and visionary Australian journalist, Julian Assange. Julian Assange has been illegally imprisoned [1] in the London Ecuadorian Embassy for almost six years now The alternative to his ongoing imprisonment is extradition to the United States, show trial, and long imprisonment, should he be made to leave the embassy. Should Assange remain, he faces grave threats to his health due to a lack of exercise within the embassy walls and lack of direct sunlight, so far, for six years.

    The protest will feature Australian Journalist, John Pilger,

  • Tony_0pmoc

    I didn’t know until a couple of days ago..

    They nearly destroyed Craig Murray’s life for a year, and even though I completely disagree with him on loads of political stuff, I did eventually send Craig Murray £10 to defend his right to free speech, particularly considering the circymstances, when he was completely “set up”

    Now these people are going for a bloke, I have seen play live – with the Blockheads.

    He is a completely Brilliant Musician and Writer.

    He was born in I s rael

    They are now going for Gilad Atzmon

    I have been reading him for years.

    They even want to destroy him…

    I mean – what the hell is wrong with these people?

    Even the Americans wouldn’t do that…

    Well O.K. they allowed Jimi Hendrix to come to London.

    He could not get publicised in the USA…

    But he sure as hell could in England

    http://www.gilad.co.uk/

    My heart bleeds for you mate.

    Fight the bxstards back. Sue the cxnts. They are not only suing you, but trying to prevent you from playing Sax. I am not the greatest fan of Sax, but you do it the best in the world.

    Fight back.

    Tony

    • duplicitousdemocracy

      Gilad Atzmon is despised so much because he knows exactly how the Israelis think. That’s why he left the region and refuses to go back until it is Palestine again. He rejects the superiority status and recognises the victim complex. The Zionists around the world fear him and try to restrict any opportunity for him to express his views to others and use the most vile tactics to limit venues that have agreed to host him. As you say Tony, ‘they’ are after silencing him. Just as Mr Murray (with the support of his generous readers) managed to resist, so will Gilad. Dershowitz failed in his attempts to smear him, even deriding his ability to play the saxophone. Dershowitz has only one claim to fame. Being part of the team that managed to distort the legal process so much that he conned a jury.

  • Sharp Ears

    The Gaza shootings: a massive orthopaedic crisis and mass disability

    I am the Head of Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery in Gaza and I am writing in follow-up of the rapid response “The Maiming Fields of Gaza” of 4 May. (1) As of 18 May, the death and injury toll, rising every day, is 117 dead, including 13 children, and no less than 12,271 injured.

    6,760 have been hospitalised, including 3,598 with bullet wounds. 19 clearly identified medics have been shot to date. (2)

    The humanitarian agency Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF) has been operating in Gaza and says that people have been shot with bullets that have caused fist-sized wounds of “unusual severity”. Marie-Elisabeth Ingres, head of MSF Palestine says in their report that “half of the more than 500 patients we have admitted in our clinics have injuries where the bullet has literally destroyed tissue after having pulverised bone”. (3) This is what we are facing. I have seen a great deal of physical trauma in Gaza following Israeli attacks but have not seen these kind of injuries before. From the appearance of the wounds there appears to have been systematic use by Israeli Defence Force snipers of ammunition with an expanding ‘butterfly’ effect.

    There are currently between 300 and 350 high energy compound tibial fractures in Gaza as a result of live fire. These are the most difficult of all open fractures to treat. Complex lower limb injuries of this severity may require between 5 and 7 surgical procedures, with each operation taking 3-6 hours. Even with state-of-the-art reconstruction, healing takes 1-2 years. Most of these patients will develop osteomyelitis. A steadily increasing toll of secondary amputations is inevitable. They will also need intensive rehabilitation, but the only rehabilitation hospital in Gaza was destroyed by Israeli bombing in 2014 and has not been re-built. Mass lifelong disability is now the prospect facing Gazan citizens, largely young, who were merely gathering in unarmed protest about Israeli occupation and siege that has rendered their political and social futures impossible.

    To reconstruct such injuries is entirely beyond the capabilities of Gazan medical services already depleted by the 12 year Israeli siege described in the earlier rapid response. Shifa hospital is anyway swamped and there are no beds. Moreover the level of expertise required for such reconstructive surgery is beyond that generalist orthopaedic surgeons, requiring dedicated Limb Salvage Teams. I am sure that if over 6000 injured patients, more than half with bullet wounds, required admission to hospitals in London over a short period of time, your services would be stretched even though you are fully resourced. I am told that no single limb reconstruction service in the UK has ever been confronted with such mass leg casualties. How are we here in Gaza to manage this situation?

    I understand there is now the question of an investigation by the International Criminal Court.

    We in Gaza cannot but ask why has no European government spoken out about events which if they had happened elsewhere would surely have been called an international outrage and probable war crime?

    1. https://www.bmj.com/content/349/bmj.g6644/rr

    2 https://www.democracynow.org/2018/5/17/meet_tarek_loubani_the_canadian_d

    3. http://www.msf.org/en/article/palestine-msf-teams-gaza-observe-unusually

    Email: [email protected]

    Competing interests: No competing interests
    06 June 2018
    Nafiz Abu-Shaban
    Plastic and reconstructive surgeon
    Shifa Hospital, Gaza

    https://www.bmj.com/content/349/bmj.g6644/rr-0

    Please write to your MPs and enclose this. These are war crimes.
    .

    • Brianfujisan

      “had happened elsewhere would surely have been called an international outrage and probable war crime?2

      Probable ??? … Babies…Medical Staff..The Press.. And PROBABLY MANY More Inocents.

      I’ve Been watching this…Last Night was Horrific..How do you get them things out a mouth.

  • quasi_verbatim

    Are May’s G7 Rapid Response Unit and the impending Cabinet lock-in at Chequers somehow, perhaps, related?

    Mr. Murray’s observations would be appreciated.

  • Sharp Ears

    Army ads targetted at stressed and vulnerable teenagers

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/08/british-army-criticised-for-exam-results-day-recruitment-ads

    ‘There has been growing concern about some of the army’s tactics for drawing in new recruits. The Guardian revealed last year that it had targeted young people from working-class backgrounds in a glossy recruitment campaign called This Is Belonging, despite claiming to aim advertising at all socioeconomic groups.

    New information released after a written parliamentary question by Saville Roberts revealed that the army spent £1.7m on social media content between 2015 and 2017, the vast bulk of it on Facebook.’

    How sick. The timing too and the use of the evil Facebook which is controlling people’s lives.

    • Ross

      What better way to exploit the poverty of opportunity facing young people from working-class backgrounds than to conscript them into an institution which exists to serve the interests of those so responsible for their disenfranchisement.

  • Sharp Ears

    Brian, did you mean the man with a gas canister in his cheek? Imagine the pain and the after effects.

    Horrific moment IDF gas canister hits Palestinian in the face (GRAPHIC PICTURES)
    https://www.rt.com/news/429211-teargas-gaza-hospital-israel/

    We are helpless here whilst the Satans do their work. We can only weep for the poor people who have been betrayed by us over and over again

  • Sharp Ears

    BBC Monitoring.

    The BBC ‘news’ channel has been giving a lot of publicity to the move of that service from Caversham and have had pieces on the BBC website. This morning, Sara Beck, the director was interviewed by Ms Munchetty. Now there is a report.

    Within we read – ‘The service has been through a lot of changes in the last couple of years, and was delivered a savings target which we had to incorporate. We’ve changed the structure of the personnel and the organisation, we’ve changed the delivery platform, updated the technology, and we have new products, new customers and users.

    We’ve moved from Caversham House, in Berkshire, which was an absolutely beautiful place to work, but it was expensive to run, and we were at a distance from a lot of our users in the BBC but also in the UK Government. Coming into Broadcasting House gives just that extra sense of being part of News.’

    BBC Monitoring: spotting fake news since the Second World War
    Friday 08 June 2018, 12:32
    Sara Beck
    Director, BBC Monitoring
    Tagged with BBC World Service

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/entries/01033590-a956-4841-8eca-7a5d095b99fd

    You see they are all embedded now.

    Thete is one comment below the report:
    Posted by Kit Green on 8 Jun 2018 20:11
    “we were at a distance from a lot of our users in the BBC but also in the UK Government”
    That is how it should be if we are to believe that monitoring is independent. ‘

    Kit Green is spot on.

    • Sharp Ears

      Of course it should be said that the BBC never ever broadcast ‘fake news’ themselves! 😉

      • Brianfujisan

        The bbc are in FACT War Criminals ..a Lot of Children are dead ..Marr / Neil / Wark / PaxMam / Bird

        bbc For ya

      • truthwillout

        Not quite fake news, Sharp Ears. They are merely being selective in their choice of two or three news stories from thousands that are available, and sexing them up like mad to entertain their audience. Paul Dacre was a master at combining entertainment and propaganda (sexing up something that has a grain of truth). As John Pilger says, so are BBC news.

        • truthwillout

          Example: The Soviet Union produced Novichok = “Grain of truth”. May.. bit of sexing up. Result? Wow… what a story! Has to be said though that in 2002 the govt sexing up (45 minutes from doom) was cheerleaded by The Sun, not The BBC.

          • Dave Lawton

            truthwillout
            June 9, 2018 at 10:41
            BBC were broadcasting from various players that it was the first use of a nerve agent in Europe for the first time since the Second World War. This is a big lie and fake.

        • Sharp Ears

          I liked how Simon Fanshawe described Dacre this morning on BBC Breakfast ‘news’ when reviewing the papers. He called him a master of propaganda with the ability to find the chinks in his readers and to produce and confirm their prejudice. A sort of symbiosis.

          I came across Dacre’s sister in law the other day. She is a medic and president of the Royal College of Physicians.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Dacre
          She was made a Dame today.
          Husband – Nigel Dacre, younger brother of Paul.
          https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/in-the-news-nigel-dacre/173965.article

  • N_

    What kind of surveillance system might be introduced in Northern Ireland (and perhaps also south of the border) to “facilitate” everyone to the “maximum”? There are indications that what’s being considered would be very high-tech and wouldn’t involve a lot of watchtowers strung along the frontier.

    • Herbie

      It’ll probably be an Israeli company.

      They seem to be the leaders in surveillance technology these days.

      Big business that, for some reason.

  • N_

    Regarding the Counter-Terrorism and Border Security Bill 2018, for which some of the marketing has referenced the Skripals, one of the offences will be to issue an expression of support in a way that is “reckless” as to whether it will encourage others to support a proscribed organisation.

    So if we say we admire or morally support the resistance in Gaza?

    Start here. Ports and the border are only a small part of this.

    One could easily imagine a scenario in which those who run the British state deliberately cause a revival of the Troubles in Northern Ireland, and then they clamp down so strongly and in such a high-tech way as to make Chechenia look like a vicars’ tea party – perhaps removing the Troubles but keeping and normalising the clampdown.

    Personally I think this won’t be the route that is taken, or if this is done then it will only be a small part of what’s happening, but it’s worth thinking about, as the state of British politics in relation to Northern Ireland gets increasingly psycho.

      • Paul Barbara

        @ bj June 9, 2018 at 11:49
        Nearly 163,000 people have signed; if nothing else, the petition will spread knowledge of more of the crimes of the ‘Exceptional’ Apartheid Regime.

        • bj

          I’m not sure a petition will spread more knowledge.

          Most of the people landing there, on sites like change.org, are of the well, self-informed kind anyway, in my estimate.
          (Btw., wasn’t change.org a Soros-run operation? I could be wrong.)

          In addition, these days too many people sign all manner of petition, but when voting time comes in general elections (which if carried out conscientiously might often obviate the need for petitions), they cannot be bothered, or vote with their installments and job security in mind).

          • Loony

            It is good to learn that people on sites such as change.org are well informed. Here is a petition from change.org that appears to have garnered a lot more than 163,000 signatures

            https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-free-tommy-robinson

            The views of over 600,000 people are naturally of no interest to the media -and so this will not be reported in any meaningful sense. Luckily this can all be justified by NUJ reporting guidelines.

            https://www.nuj.org.uk/news/updated-nuj-race-reporting-guidelines-and-efj-manifesto/

            Had these guidelines been in place in the 1930’s then there would have been no reporting of Hitler and the Nazi’s and hence no mobilization to oppose the Nazi takeover of Europe. No doubt the NUJ would take credit for having prevented World War 2 and then promptly acted to ban any reporting on the victims of the Nazi’s.

            It is now possible that Tommy Robinson is in fact morphing into Franz Ferdinand, but even if this is the case we can be confident that it will not be reported – and will all come as a shock, which no one could have foreseen and no-one will be guilty of any acts of omission.

            Some years ago a man arose in the UK who had a message to deliver – and a small part of that message was to provide a definitive method of dealing with journalists.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IkZVGqER-8

  • Sharp Ears

    The UK Defence Minister, Mr Shurrup and Go Away, is watching the display of soldiers in their blood red uniforms marching in Horseguards this morning. His guest is Mattis, his UK equivalent. Unlike Williamson, Mattis is ex-military.

      • Sharp Ears

        One. Field Marshal Lord Guthrie who was thrown orf his orse. Treated at the scene and carted off in an ambulance.

        He was found out in the Lordsin 2006 when he did not declare his directorship of the US weapons manufacturing company, Colt Defense Llc, when speaking in a ‘defence’ debate. He had been the Chief of the General Staff. Similarly Lord Boyce, ex Admiral of the Fleet, who had a paid directorship in VT Group who of course build ships for the Navy. He had also been Chief of the General Staff.

        Lord Boyce – still coining it. (MCB are his initials!)

        Director, MCB Advisory Services Limited (Member’s company owned 100 per cent by him; providing consultancy advice; personal clients are all listed in category 2)
        Category 2: Remunerated employment, office, profession etc.
        Chairman D Group Advisory Board
        Senior Adviser, Protection Group International (risk-mitigation and security company) (interest ceased 23 May 2018)
        Adviser, W S Atkins plc (engineering)
        Adviser, Sherpa Millbank (strategic counsel to companies)
        Category 4: Shareholdings
        MCB Advisory Services Limited (see category 1)
        W S Atkins plc (see category 2) (interest ceased 23 May 2018)
        plus many other ‘non financial interests’ https://www.parliament.uk/biographies/lords/lord-boyce/3630

        Guthrie also attended Herliya, the large Israeli military/security/defence conference.
        His interests – Directorships
        Non-executive Director, Colt Defense LLC (interest ceased 13 July 2017)
        Non-executive Director, Sciens Capital (investment management) (interest ceased 13 July 2017)
        Non-executive Director, Rivada Networks (designer, integrator and operator of wireless, interoperable public safety communications networks)
        : Shareholdings
        Palantir Technologies (software company)
        Gulf Keystone Petroleum Limited (exploration and production company)
        and many non-financial interests
        and on the front page of his entry on the HoL page under these headings – Professional Life/Job title/Organisation/Date
        Non-Executive Director Rivada 2011 –
        Director Gulf Keystone 2011 –
        Director Petropavlovsk 2008 –
        Non-Executive Director Colt Defence 2002 –
        Director N M Rothschild 2001 – 2009
        Non-Executive Director Gulf Keystone Petroleum 2000 –
        Army Officer MOD 1957 – 2001

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