The Amesbury Mystery 940

We are continually presented with experts by the mainstream media who will validate whatever miraculous property of “novichok” is needed to fit in with the government’s latest wild anti-Russian story. Tonight Newsnight wheeled out a chemical weapons expert to tell us that “novichok” is “extremely persistent” and therefore that used to attack the Skripals could still be lurking potent on a bush in a park.

Yet only three months ago we had this example of scores from the MSM giving the same message which was the government line at that time:
“Professor Robert Stockman, of the University of Nottingham, said traces of nerve agents did not linger. He added: ‘These agents react with water to degrade, including moisture in the air, and so in the UK they would have a very limited lifetime. This is presumably why the street in Salisbury was being hosed down as a precaution – it would effectively destroy the agent.'”

In fact, rain affecting the “novichok” on the door handle was given as the reason that the Skripals were not killed. But now the properties of the agent have to fit a new narrative, so they transmute again.

It keeps happening. Do you remember when Novichok was the most deadly of substances, many times more powerful than VX or Sarin, and causing death in seconds? But then, when that needed to be altered to fit the government’s Skripal story, they found scientists to explain that actually no, it was pretty slow acting, absorbed gradually through the skin, and not all that deadly.

Scientists are an interesting bunch. More than willing to ascribe whatever properties fit the government’s ever more implausible stories, in exchange for an MSM appearance fee, 5 minutes of fame and the fond hope of a research grant.

According to the Daily Telegraph today, the unfortunate Charlie Rowley is a registered heroin addict, and if true Occam’s Razor would indicate that is a rather more likely reason for his present state than an inexplicably persistent weaponised nerve agent.

If it is however true that two separate attacks have been carried out with “novichok” a few miles either side of Porton Down, where “novichok” is synthesised and stored for “testing purposes”, what does Occam’s razor suggest is the source of the nerve agent? A question not one MSM journalist seems to have asked themselves tonight.

I am slightly puzzled by the picture the media are trying to paint of Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess as homeless, unemployed addicts. The Guardian and Sky News both state that they were unemployed, yet Charlie was living in a very new house in Muggleton Road, Amesbury, which is pretty expensive. According to Zoopla homes range up to £430,000 and the cheapest ones are £270,000. They are all new build, on a new estate, which is still under construction.

Both Charlie Rowley and Dawn Sturgess still have active facebook pages and one of Charlie’s handful of “Likes” is a mortgage broker, which is consistent with his brand new house. They don’t give mortgages to unemployed heroin addicts, and not many of those live in smart new “executive housing” estates. Both Charlie and Dawn appear from their facebook pages to be very well socialised, with Dawn having many friends in the teaching profession. Even if she has been homeless for a period as reported, she is plainly very much part of the community.

Naturally, there is no mention in all the reports today of MI6’s Pablo Miller, who remains the subject of a D notice. I wonder if he knows Rowley and Sturgess, living in the same community? It should be recalled that Salisbury may be a city, but its population is only 45,000.

The most important thing is of course that Charlie and Dawn recover. But tonight, even at this early stage, as with the entire Skripal saga, the message the security services are seeking to give out does not add up. Mark Urban’s piece for Newsnight tonight was simply disgusting; it did not even pretend to be more than a propaganda piece on behalf of the security services, who had told Urban (as he said) that Yulia Skripal’s phone “could have been” tapped by the Russians and they “might even” have listened to her conversations through the microphone in her telephone. That was the “new evidence” that the Russians were behind everything.

As a former British Ambassador I can tell you with certainty that indeed the Russians might have tapped Yulia, but GCHQ most definitely would have. It is, after all, their job, and billions of our taxes go into it. If tapping of phones is seriously presented as evidence of intent to murder, the British government must be very murderous indeed.

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  • Goodwin

    “Occam’s Razor” might also indicate that they were poisoned by Novichok rather than some wild World Cup inspired conspiracy theory. Just saying …

    • Greg Park

      Just another nerve agent poisoning by Putin in a quiet Wiltshire cul de sac … at the height of Russia’s World Cup … Why would any thinking person be suspicious of this narrative?

    • Antonyl

      “Boris’ Razor” indicates the opposite, unless Occam works at Porton Down.

  • Mary Paul

    Seriously if novichok has got into the wild as part of the heroin supply chain near Salisbury, regardless of how, can we expect it to now affect other local addicts? Or were the victims specifically targeted? Seems unlikely: their friend said yesterday the authorities keep calling him to ask if he is ok. So how and why has novichok escaped into the wild?

    • Dave Lawton

      Mary Paul
      July 5, 2018 at 09:40

      When are people going to wake up out of this fairy tale matrix.I remember a government warning broadcast on the BBC in the 1970`s was used to cause panic, it was about pink LSD microdots which were deadly and killing people left right and centre.Another one was the Julia Acid trial in Bristol.The evidence for the prosecution in which photo`s of headless torso`s were shown to the jury claiming LSD blows your head off.They were given ten years.

    • Ross

      seriously…nerve agents of any type have not been used in either case otherwise they would all be extremely very dead. Nobody would make a nerve agent that doesnt render the subject totally and utterly dead, why would you.

  • scriti politi

    Craig you’ve missed out a step. Just before this, the police announced their escaped Russians as suspects, claiming that two people with links to Russia had done the dastardly deed then fled the country.
    Within the week we have this bizarre incident! Once again looking every bit like a synthetic heron overdose (as originally reported in Salisbury).
    With the Diplomatic boycott in tatters as European politicians realise all the fun people are having at the World Cup is more important than May’s demonising of Russia, and England’s great progress resulting in more and more people walking around with England tops saying “Russia 2018” on them, I think this “incident” is supposed to lead the police to some revolutions!!!!
    I also saw someone tweet about them being intimidated out of speaking freely by the BBC a few days ago.

    • Jo

      Also EU is to very soon to vote to extend sanctions again against Russia….fortunate timing for that eh?

  • Dave G

    I love the way that British spooks said that the super-efficient Russians had carried out tests, including on door handles, to determine the most efficient way of killing people with a nerve agent. And then those super-efficient Russians chose the method which hasn’t yet killed any of the five people who have allegedly been poisoned with a novichok nerve agent which is supposedly far more deadly than the VX which killed the North Korean leader’s brother in minutes.
    Some neocon said that they “create their own reality” and that’s what this (and the Douma “chemical attack”) looks like. Makes me wonder how much reality they create. How much is real and how much is fake?

  • Tom

    It certainly is very odd timing, what with peoples perceptions of Russia changing due to the World Cup (and May potentially having to go support the team).

    On that note, perhaps we should start calling it ‘novicrock’?

  • Agent Green

    Why do the media keep on stating that the Novichok (if it exists) was manufactured in Russia when this is a blatant lie?

    The substance could be made in any lab in the world relatively easily. It could even be made to carry the signature of Russia if required (i.e. to manufacture evidence).

      • Andyoldlabour

        Agent Green is correct, it is a blatent lie to say that Novichok could only be manufactured in Russia, because Iran made a batch under the eyes of the OPCW and the US and UK could certainly produce it, because the precise chemical formula was disclosed by the scientist who formulated it.
        The US were invited by the government of Uzbekistan to close down a chemical weapons plant after the break up of the Soviet Union, so they would have been well aware of the “Novichoks” and their capabilities.

  • Spencer Eagle

    For an example of a greedy and corrupt scientific community you need look no further than the pollution focussed attack on diesel. Time and time again the MSM are publishing questionable stories and data around pollution. From songbirds dying out, to just the other day, pollution having contributed to a girl’s asthma death because she lived near a main road. The one thing in common that these scientific ‘narrative validators’ have is they are dependent on funding to exist. Such ‘paid for, right answer’ research has already been rumbled in some quarters, one European university was caught out purposely hiring research subjects for it’s pollution assessments who were suffering from pre existing respiratory conditions.

    • J

      A lot of generalisation to make from the one specific (though uncited) reference you’ve made.

      • Spencer Eagle

        For several years I worked in an organisation distributing EU funding to universities and other quasi business entities, trust me the whole show is bent.

      • Michael McNulty

        Scientists paid to tell us things which go against science such as the laws of physics etc, that’s like asking us to believe in magic. As few here believe in magic we can only conclude they are lying; sometimes for glory (eg. Piltdown Man), but usually for money.

  • Roger G Lewis

    A few notes from Duncan Campbell on the Five-eyes.
    ´´Wire Tapping ´´ Technologically Challenged Media´´Schadenfreude, It´s Like German Chocolate Cake for the soul.
    With all the Hacking and Phone tapping fuss, here are a couple of cartoon strips I came across today.
    Is the media really so dumb or do they know all this stuff and realise that they are essentially an ignorance factory doing a fantastic job of nurturing ignorance or are they the Ignorant leading the ignorant, or the blind leading the blind?

    • pete

      Re Roger G Lewis 10.06

      It was reading Duncan Campbell’s reporting on the monitoring of all our communications and the cosy arrangements GCHC had with the US security services that first alerted me to the inherent dangers of such a practice, which was why the Snowdon leaks, which came later, were much less of a surprise. These agencies seem to be out of control and the regulation of them piss poor. Who really knows now what bizarre scenario is being played out in Salisbury.

  • The King Of Prussia

    ‘These agents react with water to degrade, including moisture in the air, and so in the UK they would have a very limited lifetime. This is presumably why the street in Salisbury was being hosed down as a precaution – it would effectively destroy the agent.’

    And if the hoses missed anywhere, the 10.8mm of rain that fell on Salisbury in one hour on 29th May certainly would have got it.

  • Neil McCaughan

    I do hope this won’t excite mad Mrs May to the needless and cruel slaughter of any more domestic cats or guinea pigs.

  • Loftwork

    Amazing, isn’t it? I sometimes wonder if there’s a bunch of spooks having a screenplay meeting to see how improbable and idiotic the new plot line has to be before the public lose interest. Maybe they’re working on a portfolio for jobs as BBC scriptwriters? I can imagine them in a back office at Porton Down saying “…then, just when everything dies down, we’ll have _another_ Novichok attack and quarantine the whole town! PD will back it. If Julia plays ball maybe she can do another interview saying how the dastardly FSB never gives up. Great ratings there!”

    • MightyDrunken

      Well five scripts for the new Dr Who series 8 were leaked…Actually Dr Who is more believable.

  • Ross

    There are certain items that we need to keep in mind

    1. the d notices on Pablo Miller.
    2. the disappearance of Yulias boyfriend Stepan Vikeev and his mother, who appeared to run a low-level corporate intelligence company.
    3. the link via Orbis to the dodgy trump dossier.
    4. the photo in Zizzi of Skripals, with the photographer visible in the mirror, taken with a compact digital camera not a mobile phone.

    To me these rule out a simple discrediting of Russia during the world cup. These very definitely point to a link with the “security” services and the Trump dossier.

    Find out who the ‘mystery man’ is in the mirror of the Zizzi photo and we move forward.

    • Cassandra

      If you examine the angles involved in the photograph of the photographer taking a photograph of the Skripals (and the photographer), you will see that there must have been a fourth person: the one that took the photo of the Skripals and the guy with the compact camera.

      • Ross

        The angles look fine to me and don’t indicate a 4th person.

        I would like to know how this photo got into the hands of East2West news, a company you can easily find on companies house.

        This and other photo’s linked to the case, such as Stepan Vikeev and his mother, Sergei’s mother and others are all credited to this company, who don’t appear to make any money at all from the look of companies house.

    • Jo

      The waiting staff at zizzi who were interviewed….no mention of the photographer at all…unless d noticed …

    • MightyDrunken

      I think the message is clear, don’t take heroin cut with Novichok.

  • Laura Sutherland

    Have you compared the CCTV image of the couple with the red handbag (from the Skripal incident) with the pics of the couple in this new incident?

    • N_

      Yes. I think the woman in the video could be Dawn Sturgess. Their hairlines are similar in the front. The guy in the video may be too old and have too much hair on the top to be Charlie Rowley, though. What do you think? If that was Ms Sturgess in the video, that would be highly significant.

      • Laura Sutherland

        I think the same as you, that the woman is very much like Sturgess and I also thought the man looked like he had too much hair. I played the video and froze maybe one or two frames before the still that has been published and the guy looks just like Rowley, in that he doesn’t seem to have as much hair. I watched the interview with the neighbour as well, he went to their home when he saw the ambulance for Sturgess, Rowley was OK at this point and only got ill sometime later, after a shower??? Very Odd, perhaps there’s something in the water…….:)

    • Brendan

      There’s another image of Charlie Rowley that looks more like the guy in the video.

      Rowley is 45 years old, so the other image of him was probably taken when he was noticably younger.

      The guy in the video is probably bald on top. It’s just that the boundary of his head is not shown clearly in a couple of frames because the video quality is poor.

      He’s also holding the woman’s hand, so they must be a fairly close couple, just like Sturgess and Rowley (she displays a photo of him on her main Facebook page). It’s therefore very likely that the CCTV video shows either both Sturgess and Rowley or else neither of them.

      • Laura Sutherland

        The image you mention is the image I was comparing with the CCTV, as I mentioned above in my reply to N_ freezing the video at a different point makes him look more like Rowley. Maybe Rowley and Sturgess are drug dealers and they are buying from Porton Down??

  • N_

    Britain’s security minister Ben Wallace (or “the UK’s security minister” as the MSM calls him, because no journalist ever got sacked for mentioning the monarchy’s brandname) calls on Russia to help with the investigation. In actual fact, the Russian government always said it wanted to help investigate the Skripal case. Wallace doesn’t really want Russian assistance. What he means is that those foreign bastards must come here and bend over.

    Wallace went to Millfield, one of Britain’s most expensive private schools, known mostly for sport (running fast in circles, jumping high, chucking things, ballplay) not intellect. It’s the sort of place that MI6 shepherds the brats of Russian oligarchs to if it can manage to avoid letting them know what the real top schools are. Wallace himself worked as a “ski instructor” in Switzerland after he left school and then joined the army. He wasn’t bright enough to go to university.

    The Russian state could put this wrong right,” says Wallace. “They could tell us what happened, what they did and fill in some of the significant gaps we are trying to pursue.

    On regime radio, Wallace referred to “the anger I feel at the Russian state”. Those who’ve given him his orders know exactly what they’re doing. A lot of propaganda works on the basis of “monkey see, monkey do”.

    The clear message is this: hate Russians; love the British authorities.

    Whereas Russian politician Igor Lebedev (probably no relation to George Osborne’s oligarch employer at the Evening Standard) called for the legalisation of football hooliganism, what Wallace is doing is far worse.

    Has someone got Mr C Rowley’s exact address, including the flat number? We can find out who the legal owner is and read any charge (such as a mortgage) that is registered on the title.

    Want a propaganda photo? Try this one from the Daily Express.

    The Kings Gate “development” in Amesbury contains, by the way, does contain some rented flats, presumably “social housing”. (Source.) It’s possible it contains more than were originally envisaged. A company called Stonewater seems to be involved. It’s chaired by the scumbag moneylenders’ runner George Blunden, who describes himself as “(e)xperienced in the affordable housing sector, having been Chair of Southern Housing Group” and says he “is Chair of the Charity Bank, which provides affordable loan finance to those charitable and social organisations who might find it difficult to access loans from commercial banks.”

    • Agent Green

      Agree. The Russians offered all assistance from day 1 of the original incident.

      The UK authorities don’t want actual assistance as it would uncover the truth.

  • Thomas_Stockmann

    Interesting to note that Mark Urban admitted last night that he has been talking to Sergei Skripal since last summer as part of the research he (Urban) was doing for a book project. Urban has a new book coming out about the Skripal affair, set in the wider context of the “new spy war” he argues is occurring between Russia and the West. Two questions:
    (1) Isn’t it rather curious that a BBC correspondent would neglect to mention this for months, given the copious coverage of the Skripals on Newsnight?
    (2) Do these conversations back up one of Craig’s theories: that Skripal was connected to the Steele dossier?
    If the answer to (2) is yes, I can see this going one of two ways. Craig’s theory, if I understand it correctly, is that the Steele dossier is a concoction (I’m inclined to agree) and that someone responsible for it wanted to keep Skripal quiet (maybe, but why was such an extreme step necessary?). Alternatively, I can see the UK Government arguing that such activity was the motive for Putin to order a hit (that makes no sense to me, as it would be after the event, but hey, it’s about public opinion, not logic). But then, if he was involved, why hasn’t HMG highlighted this as a plausible motive for Russia to strike?
    If the answer to (2) is no, then I think Craig’s original theory about the attack being an attempt to sour Russian relations with the West is more plausible, given the choice of method which seems to have been designed to point the finger of blame at Russia.

    • N_

      Factor in the shelving of the British state’s original strategic defence review and the current call to increase military spending by 40%.

      Propaganda-wise they’re going to need to go much further than four ill people to “justify” that. FORTY PERCENT! I doubt anybody (other than lawyers and chatterers) gives a toss about the Steele dossier.

  • Mary Paul

    Well Ben Wallace clearly has not been briefed and knows nothing, so is resorting to slagging off the Russians
    Speaking on Radio 4, security minister Ben Wallace said the victims were most likely not directly targeted.

    “The working assumption would be that these are victims of either the consequence of the previous attack, or something else, but not that they were directly targeted,” he said. Linking the incident to the attack on the Skripals, Mr Wallace said: “I think what we said at the time was that this was a brazen and reckless attack in the heart of a very peaceful part of the United Kingdom, and that is part of the anger I feel about the Russian state is that they chose to use clearly a very, very toxic, highly dangerous weapon.”

    Meanwhile in the London Evening Standard: “Reports suggest (the victims) had frequented a park also visited by the Skripals. The investigation has “raised serious questions” over how effective the clean-up in Salisbury was, a Government source said.The senior source said it is believed there was cross-contamination of the same batch of nerve agent involved in the “reckless” Salisbury attack, as opposed to a secondary attack. “They [the authorities] have never been able to ascertain the item used to deposit the Novichok and it’s possible the pair have come into contact with that item”, the source said.They added that this second poisoning could raise the prospect that at least one other area in Salisbury city centre was contaminated with the nerve agent but had not previously been identified. Novichok doesn’t evaporate. It exists forever,” the source said. “Incineration is the most effective method.

    “But they are not going to burn Salisbury down.”

    Test results from the Government’s Porton Down laboratory came back at 7pm on Wednesday confirming the substance was Novichok.

    This is good stuff, on the one hand the Chief Scientist says you can wipe it off with a baby wipe, a large cohort of scientists have told us it washes away in the rain, and Salisbury has been comprehensively decontaminated, yet here it is again, popping up in a local park. And far from being ingested, or used in a gel, it was on some unidentified container which the addicts “found” and touched and lo and behold, it turns out the smallest traces can last forever. Use baby wipes would be on that.

    Meanwhile the BBC’s Mark Urban is busy peddling the line that Mr Skripal was a harmless old buffer who did the occasional lecture abroad, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary that he was making a living from working his former contacts at the very least (and overseas governments admitting he had advised them.) Urban gives the impression that he believes no one reads anything except his insipid recyclings of the official line. He really is a waste of space. Oh for a real journalist able to do a proper job on the story. Last time Matt Frei did an excellent documentary for Channel 4, unlike all the usual hacks. It is probably too much to hope he will do an update, I imagine the authorities overlooked Channel 4 last time around, but will be silencing it this time.

    • Thomas_Stockmann

      I very much doubt that Channel 4 News will do anything that could be construed as sympathetic to Russia. They have consistently pushed the idea that “something must be done” about Syria. Cathy Newman’s interview with Sergei Lavrov was so overtly hostile that she was ineffective and made him look good.

      • Agent Green

        Something is being ‘done’ in Syria. It is being fixed. Assad is clearing out the terrorists and any ‘moderate’ rebels (rebels who were financed and supplied by the West in order to topple Assad). Russia is assisting and given time the country will be restored to some kind of working order.

      • Mary Paul

        Not suggesting that I want or expect Channel 4 to be sympathetic to Russia. Just that the only tv programme about the poisoning of the Skripals that resembled proper journalism was by Matt Frei on C4. I expect he got abroad and got the relevant interviews (eg one with one of the original inventors of Novichok viruses) before the authorities cottoned on.

    • Vivian O'Blivion

      Not an organic chemist, but the degradation / dilution by water is only one aspect that impugns on the official narrative being pushed that this is a residual impact from an event four months ago. Also to factor in; oxidation, heat and crucialy, UV degradation (could add biodegradation but not sure whether any existing bacteria could “feed” off a rare toxin). The nerve agent is volatile enough to rapidly interact with the human body, but simultaneously exhibits chemical resilience.
      ps. Wiltshire has experienced a fair bit of heat and UV over the last four months.

    • Antonyl

      Another view:
      However, they may now know the identity of the individuals who smeared the door knob at the Skripals’ home in Salisbury. Yes, Sturgess and Rowley.

  • Bob Dixon

    Interesting how many people on Social are convinced that the Salisbury attack was proven to be carried out by Russia.

  • N_

    According to the Heil, an alleged friend of Dawn Sturgess is supposed to have said she is not a (heroin) user.

    Got to wonder about that blanket from the charity shop. Is honky power up to its old tricks again?

    Critics need to suss just how scummy the guys at Porton Down really are.

    Here‘s an instructive headline from the Mirror: “Officials warn locals to ‘wash your clothes’ “. Do we need to scrub under our armpits as well? Listen to pearl-bedecked “chief medical officer” Sally Davies, a royal favourite. She advises the Morlocks to wash their clothes and wipe their shoes before “disposing of them in the usual way”.

    Is Wikipedia right to say the chief medical officer has a rank equivalent to permanent secretary?

    There is no way the timing of Mr Rowley and Ms Sturgess’s illness is accidental.

  • John Mansfield

    I hope you write the script for the soon to be released movie. You and John Cleese would be the perfect co-writers on this one!

  • Sky Mull

    Looks like either a rogue member of Porton Down acting alone, or MI5/6 doing it officially.
    The obvious place for everyone to look is Porton Down.

  • Nevermind, Duke of Doggerland

    Are we all doing what this Government wants? to talk about it, make it important discourse, discuss the ins and outs….

    Should we not ignore this utter twaddle and concentrate on a judge led inquiry into the ministers who helped to torture and lied to Parliament, as steadfast and speedy, no doubt, as the inquiry into alleged Westminster politicians paedophilia?

    Should we be talking about the insecurity this horse play is causing to the society and people’s thoughts in Ireland, what it will do to the Good Friday Agreement?

    I have just been to Ireland and rest assured, there is nobody who wants any border controls back, in any form.

    Should we not ignore this BS rather than given it publicity? just sayin…

    @ King of Prussia. Beware the moderators do not like our titles or slogans in our moniker.

  • Dave G

    So that looks to be another two people that MI5 have poisoned with BZ. Maybe the cops should be arresting British spooks.

    • Barrie Jones

      I believe British spooks are allowed to perform criminal acts, although it’s unclear as to what level of criminality would be tolerated.

  • Mary

    I yearn for one, just one, of the UK MSM presstitutes to speak out and query the narrative.

    Ms Kay Burley, recent interrogator of Craig, is stationed outdoors in Salisbury making her usual staccato interjections when she has someone on line to bully.

    • Jo

      She actually let a specialist or someone at lunch news state the German intelligence etc had said no evidence of Russian involvement had been presented to Germany by UK….

  • Mick

    1. Victims’ house is metres from perimeter of MoD Boscombe Down , under flight path of where drones are tested

    2. Drones are being developed for dropping canisters if nerve gas (already used by IDF in Gaza)

    3. Public in Amesbury have been warned by authorities not to pick up strange objects.

  • N_

    Charlie Rowley probably rents his flat and receives housing benefit. It may be surprising, but many “newbuild” “developments” (the lingo makes me sick) include “social housing”. In London, they sometimes have poor doors so that the well-off don’t have to pass the disadvantaged in the hallway.

    I’m not used by Facebook, so I haven’t looked at the mortgage broker that Mr Rowley has “liked” on that company’s website, but a mortgage broker is likely to be gang-connected. You can’t just walk into an area and set up a mortgage brokerage without protection. Similarly you can’t just start running a cheque cashing outfit, suntan parlour, estate agency, heroin service, or solicitors’ firm specialising in remortgaging and debt rescheduling.

    The charity shop where the blanket came from was apparently Barnado’s, an outfit that is linked to the “Fairer Fostering Partnership” and to moneylenders Santander.

    I am not sure how the blanket could have been the vector without anyone else falling ill, since charity shops usually wash donated clothes and blankets. But I still find it suspicious. Many methods and attitudes continue across the centuries and down the generations.

    Boots is now being described as where they bought dye (including blue, not an English colour), rather than where Mr Rowley collected a prescription. Interesting, that. Did he shoot up in the park? Or did he cut the methadone with something to flog it? Or what?

    The Mirror reports that “(the) Amesbury couple poisoned by deadly Novichok ‘found (a) syringe stashed in bag during (their) trip to (the) park.'”

    If that was the vector for whatever substance has made them ill, it must certainly have been put there recently, long after the original Skripal event.

    Salisbury MP John Glen said: “The latest incident is most likely the isolated result of discarded paraphernalia from the attack in March.” What a moron. I suppose he has such contempt for himself his listeners that he’s fucked if he’s going to engage his brain before he opens his mouth.

    BTW does the Daily Mirror website permanently carry gay colours on its masthead nowadays?

    • call me cynical but....

      Although not present on the flag of St George , blue certainly is presset on the England football strip which is red white and blue( shorts).

  • N_

    Big signalling problems on London’s railway network today. Southern Rail and Thameslink say don’t try using their services to get to the centre of town.

    Another matter for Cobra?

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