Spy Games 932


Russia has its GRU in addition to its KGB (now FSB and SVR). The UK has its Defence Intelligence in addition to its MI6 and GCHQ. Much less high profile, Defence Intelligence is more analytical than operative – as indeed is GRU, Skripal was an analyst.

Defence Intelligence had its proudest modern moment when it refused to endorse MI6’s pack of lies on Iraqi WMD, and earned the hatred of MI6 and of Blair and Straw as a result. This was confirmed by the Chilcot report which stated that MI6 even actually hid some of the intelligence material from the Defence Intelligence Service to prevent their rubbishing it.

I hope you will forgive me for pointing out that the opposition of the Defence Intelligence to the Blair Dirty Dossier was first revealed in my memoir Murder in Samarkand, a decade before the Chilcot report confirmed it. It was one of the many reasons Straw attempted to block publication, and one of the many things revealed in my memoir – including of course the UK’s complicity in torture and extraordinary rendition – which the government claimed to be untrue, but in due course has been proved to be 100% accurate. As it should be, as Murder in Samarkand only recounts things I personally witnessed first hand.

As this is the last day of Banned Books Week, I hope you might further forgive me (and I know I am pushing it) if I mention my prequel to Murder in Samarkand, The Catholic Orangemen of Togo. I view it as a much better book, and I was bitterly disappointed when my publisher, who had bravely defied the government lawyers over Murder in Samarkand, backed down and pulled the publication of The Catholic Orangemen due to libel threats from mercenary commander Tim Spicer. It thus became a Banned Book. I privately printed and sold 1,000 copies, and as technology advanced more recently made it available on print on demand. (I know, Amazon…) But it remains a real regret it has reached so few people. You are welcome to download it entirely free here.
Anyway, after that lengthy advertorial let me get back to the DIS. DIS remain rather more attached to the truth than MI6, so when Defence Minister Gavin Williamson tweeted out a thrilled endorsement of Bellingcat’s work on Colonel Chepiga, DIS urgently advised that he delete it. Which he did.

Which is not to say DIS are sure it is not Chepiga; rather they believe – as would anyone with half a brain – that the Bellingcat photo falls a long way short of proof. The British security services have been unable to stand up the ID with facial recognition technology. The experts are describing the Boshirov/Chepiga identification as “possible”.

I have this information from an impeccable Whitehall source, who told me there is a concern in the security services that runs like this. They genuinely believe Boshirov and Petrov are GRU agents and the would-be assassins. (I judge that my source themself believes the security services really do think this). Bellingcat, while they are sometimes fed security service material, did not in fact get fed the Chepiga material by the CIA or MI6, whether or not through a cutout. The security services are worried the Chepiga ID may be a blind alley fed to Bellingcat’s sources by the FSB. If the UK government endorses it, this could be followed by the Russians producing Chepiga and apparently discrediting the entire British narrative.

Hence the fact no charge has been laid against Chepiga, and the charges are still in the name of “Boshirov”, plus the fact that no British minister or official has named Chepiga, with only the fool Williamson stepping out of line and being slapped down.

Please note I am not endorsing the views and beliefs of the British intelligence services; I am reporting them.

Russia is fascinating at the moment. Komsomolskaya Pravda reports Ministry of Interior identification experts unofficially endorsing the Chepiga/Boshirov identity. Now there is no way these experts in the Ministry of the Interior – who would not be hard for the authorities to single out – would have done that for Komsomolskaya Pravda without an official nod. Either the Russians are indeed egging on the British into a false identification, or some inter-agency rivalry is afoot in Russia. This follows on the very open report in Kommersant – which is very close to Putin – that opinion was divided in Chepiga’s home village.

None of which brings us an awful lot closer to the truth of what happened in Salisbury, which I suspect is a great deal more complicated than any official narrative. But it is a fascinating peek into a shadowy world most people never see inside, with which I was once familiar.


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  • Sharp Ears

    I think Gav needs counselling. He is obsessed about a Russian threat. Now it’s the Arctic.

    ‘Gavin Williamson wants to boost the UK military presence in the Arctic, citing a “threat” from Russia. He called the area Britain’s “backyard,” perhaps signa(l)ling that the UK would not mind having a piece of the pie.

    UK Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson told the Sunday Telegraph he is increasingly worried that Britain’s military is failing to keep up with Russia in the high north. Climate change and geography are making the Arctic vulnerable to Russia, he argued, saying melting ice has made the region, with its natural resources, more navigable that ever.’

    https://www.rt.com/uk/439983-uk-troops-arctic-russia/

    • Aslangeo

      Another Tory delusion. Russia has not territorial disputes in the arctic. The maritime borders with the USA and Norway are settled by treaty. The areas under Russian control are not claimed by any other country, and Russia has no claims against any other arctic nation. Any mineral resources are under Russian jurisdiction. The northern sea route travels through Russian territorial waters. The arctic council acts as a forum for cooperation between arctic nations, which Britain is not. This has absolutely nothing to do with the UK. My advice would be sort out Brexit and your relations with Europe rather than waste your time poncing around the world trying to look big.

      • Andrew H

        Although your claim that UK has essentially zero (legitimate) interest in the arctic, the other statement “any mineral resources are under Russian jurisdiction” sounds exactly like Russian propaganda. What nationality are you? Canada has substantial legitimate interests (including minerals) in the arctic as probably does Greenland. (UK? no – its crowded enough).

          • Aslangeo

            There is both oil and gas in the arctic , US geological survey estimates that about a third of future oil and gas discoveries will be in the arctic. Most of this will be in the Russian sector, but also Alaska offshore and the Norwegian part of the Barents Sea. All petroleum within an EXclusive economic zone is the property of the country do develop as they wish. The Russians are highly unlikely to lease any areas to Uk companies in the future.

          • Andrew H

            The UK would be better to position itself as a supplier of deep water drilling equipment and not get involved in the territorial disputes. (just take out some insurance this time)

          • Herbie

            They’re not really territorial disputes at this stage, are they.

            They’re claims, which are being processed under intl agreement.

            Unless the UK is looking again to mess again with intl organisations. That’s maybe what Gav is referring to.

          • J

            Indirect link because youtube requires age verification but this doesn’t for some reason.

            Professor of evolutionary biology at the University of Arizona, Guy McPherson in a recent interview on his view of climate. He says the carbon bullet has been fired, it’s already too late. He predicts the end of civilisation in less than a generation and the end all complex life on earth not far beyond that, according to his model.

            https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Guy+McPherson+Uncut+and+Unplugged&t=ffab&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=rzTfh9xcl3c

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_McPherson

          • Clark

            “He says the carbon bullet has been fired”

            I think you mean the clathrate gun.

            In short, we don’t know. But I argue that we have to do our best anyway. It’s easier to think of in personal terms. Say you’ve accidentally put poison in someone’s mug of tea. You’re not certain how strong the poison is. They’ve drunk a quarter of the mug, and you think it might be fatal. Do you decide not to tell them so you don’t upset them and they at least enjoy a final cup of tea?

            Or you’re flying a helicopter when it runs out of fuel. You know it’s going to crash, killing you, but you can still steer its descent somewhat. Are you justified in abandoning the controls, or should you still attempt to guide it towards the least populated area of ground beneath?

            If anyone had any doubt that Trump was evil and a disaster, this should settle matters:

            “The amazing thing they’re saying is human activities are going to lead to this rise of carbon dioxide that is disastrous for the environment and society. And then they’re saying they’re not going to do anything about it”

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/trump-administration-sees-a-7-degree-rise-in-global-temperatures-by-2100/2018/09/27/b9c6fada-bb45-11e8-bdc0-90f81cc58c5d_story.html

          • J

            I agree. We need a global effort akin to a world war in terms of resources and focus and we needed it thirty or forty years ago. We may have a chance to mitigate the worst of it, we might even get lucky. However the literal bunker mentality of the top few percent will kill them as surely as it will kill the rest of us. They can’t survive more than a year or two underground let alone the several million years they’ll have to wait for liveable conditions to recur. The market can’t solve this, capital can’t solve this, only international and state co-operation (on a scale we’ve never achieved) will be enough.

          • Herbie

            “the literal bunker mentality of the top few percent will kill them as surely as it will kill the rest of us.”

            Remember who you’re dealing with here, the top 1%, 0.0001% . All went to Eton and its familiars. Have centuries of management experience.

            How do you cut green house gases, like quick, just at the last moment.

            That’s the way they think. Have control over every lever.

            Who’s chicken to pull it first.

            Like accelerating a fast car towards a wall.

            Who brakes closest to the wall.

            They’ll all be thinking Uncle Malthus offers them the final failsafe protection, no matter how far they push.

        • Aslangeo

          Any mineral resources within a country’s exclusive economic zone are under its jurisdiction, whatever the country. This is international law, countries can do pretty much as they wish within their territorial waters. The Russian EEZ is well defined with no disputes. As you mention Canada, Norway, Greenland and USA also have EEZ.s. , maybe I should have put it better. Canada has territorial disputes with USA and Greenland (Denmark). But all Russian arctic borders are settled. The Uk has no ligitimate interest in the Russian arctic. My nationality is not relevant

          • Andrew H

            I can assure you there are mineral rights disputes brewing between Canada, USA, Russia in the arctic. Russia is actively trying to lay claim to what lies below the ice and Canada is also trying to create a presence on previously unoccupied ice. We are not talking coastal waters here.

          • Aslangeo

            The country’s EEZ e tends up to 200 nautical miles, this is not disputed. The areas beyond this in the Arctic Ocean is highly unlikely to contain oil or gas, I am a petroleum geologist. The potential extensions to claims outside the 200 mile limit will go to the UN. Territorial waters claims in the arctic are not a big issue at all.

          • Andrew H

            The current political posturing about the arctic may have little to do with good science. If it turns out there is no oil, no gold or diamonds and sunken pirate ships that it will all settle down.

    • Tom Welsh

      ‘Gavin Williamson wants to boost the UK military presence in the Arctic, citing a “threat” from Russia. He called the area Britain’s “backyard”…’

      I’ll see Mr Williamson’s (extremely feeble) bid and raise him these:

      “The Extreme North or Far North (Russian: Крайний Север, Дальний Север) is a large part of Russia located mainly north of the Arctic Circle and boasting enormous mineral and natural resources. Its total area is about 5,500,000 square kilometres (2,100,000 sq mi), comprising about one-third of Russia’s total area”.

      The minimum distance from the north coast of Scotland to the Arctic Circle is about 550 miles (887 km).

      So a reasonable person would conclude that it’s “highly likely” Russia has a far stronger claim to “interests” in the Arctic Circle than the UK – a largely temperate island no part of which is closer to the Arctic than about 800 km.
      http://dateandtime.info/distancearcticcircle.php?id=2635881

    • Paul Greenwood

      Royal Marines have been training in Norway since 1970s. They are spinning old news repeatedly. The other day we were shown an F-35 landing on a British flat-top yet no F-35s are operational on carriers even in US Navy. It was simply a test run by a test pilot.

      The hyping of everything is simply because Britain has no defence capacity just as Germany has its submarines out of action and its new frigates returned to the shipyard for being overweight and with software defects.

      We are getting pompous words rather than value for money. it is like Peter Sellers in The Mouse That Roared
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7L7WLFBYR4

      • Clark

        The UK has NO national security. Half the UK’s energy supply arrives via the Langeled gas pipeline. One well-place depth charge in winter could bring the UK to its knees within a day, since Centrica Storage trashed our storage facility at Rough off the Yorkshire coast. That’s why anti-fracking campaigners are being given custodial sentences for public order offences.

        • Clark

          Therefore “defence” is a propaganda term; the UK maintains its military purely for offensive purposes. They should save the money and spend it on a secure energy infrastructure instead.

          The lights almost went out last March; no enemy action involved, unless you include the thieving idiots who run the country and the corporations.

        • Aslangeo

          Not quiet true as Uk has LNG exports and there is the bacton to zeebrugge interconnector. The main concern is that there is not enough LNG in the market for immediate supply. A depth charge is not needed to sabotage a pipeline, the pipelines are rusting to bits last autumn half of UK gas production was lost for a month when the Forties system developed a leak. The gas storage situation in the UK is a disgrace. The rough storage field had to be shut down as it was a serious safety hazard rusting to bits.

        • Herbie

          “One well-placed depth charge in winter could bring the UK to its knees within a day”

          No need to get wet.

          Enemies can achieve the same thing with cyber doings. Or so msm keep telling us.

          We should have a switch thing which automatically converts us to a self-sufficiency mode whilst elites are playing out their cyber games.

          Kinda defeat the purpose, eh.

          They used to fight army to army across a field. I really wish they’d get back to that.

          Why did we get brought into their wars.

        • Mary Paul

          Clark I share all your concerns about the UK lack of security over its energy supplies. Madness.

    • N_

      Government figures have said they want to increase military spending by 50%! At a time like this! This should be a point on which the left can attack them. But as Goebbels said, “The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

      The Arctic is “vulnerable” to Russia – what crazy talk.

    • Paul Greenwood

      UK has aspirations to have a dog in every fight but doesn’t own a dog. It has to induce others to slip into its leash so it can pretend to have a dog.

      Unless Germany and France feel the same paranoia as Poland it does not hold water. “Russian Aggression” is one of those obligatory phrases to see if the dog-whistle works and it does not. Looking at the effete emasculated Gavin Williamson alongside Ursula von der Leyen and Florence Parly and Ank Bijleveld and Elisabeta Trenta and Margarita Robles is to see how utterly unimportant Defence Ministers are in Western Europe…………I bet Shoigu smiles when he sees this parade.

      NATO is in the same position as the Warsaw Pact was – the only member likely to fight then were USSR and GDR – the only NATO members likely to fight are UK and USA.

      That is what terrifies them which is why USA roped NATO into Afghanistan unlike the USSR which did it alone.

  • bj

    @N_
    September 30, 2018 at 16:32
    Look at coins in a shop? Are you sure that’s the most interesting part of that video? ?

    The most interesting to me had always been the fact that there’s another type, even more broad-shouldered than our two Russians, looking into that window.

    Not to stigmatize, — but not the coin- or stamp-collector type either.

    He wipes his mouth with his hand, which is clearly a gesture of tension.

    • bj

      And –this was implied and hopefully redudant but I’ll be explicit– the one Russian spots him, and has the temerity to suddenly stop and pretend he sees something, turn and circle around, giving him due chance to measure up this lone, oversized stamp collector.

      • N_

        Nice one, @bj! You got it. After the big guy wipes his mouth he fiddles with his pocket too. And after Boshirov’s hand gestures which have a certain military economy about them, and before Petrov glances back up the street in the direction they came from, which is the direction in which the guy has walked off, the angle at which they look in the window may suggest either that they are having a good look at the runner on the other side of the street or that they do not wish to make it clear to the guy that they know he’s a watcher. Or both. Those trained in counter-surveillance are trained to suspect everyone – people loitering, running, chatting, whatever – to look around and about as if innocently, and to be sure about whether they have spotted certain people more than once. If they were being followed it would have been by a fair-sized team.

        I don’t think the reason this video was released was to deliver to most Daily Mail readers a message saying “what a pair of terribly heartless Russians, windowshopping just after they’ve tried to kill someone”.

        • bj

          I just had a look at that video again (downloaded it and replayed at slower speed in vlc), and now confirmed what had always been something subconsciously bothering: the guy in the green jacket is extremely tall, at least 4 inches taller than the Russian with the backpack (‘Petrov’).

          May not mean much, but if Petrov is an operative for whomever, he might have considered this towering figure, and to have a closer look; after all, men staring into windows are men who are saying “just minding my own business here” (not).

          • bj

            @Yeah, Right
            October 2, 2018 at 05:27

            Hmm… interesting line of thinking.
            You should pose that as a new post, to get a broader audience.

          • Phill

            Wow. Wiping his mouth and putting his hand in his pocket are secret signs? He’s too burly to be a coin collector? Some of you are going too far down the crazy rabbit hole.

          • bj

            @Phill

            Some of you are going too far down the crazy rabbit hole.

            The idiots swallowing the official narrative that is the epitome of absurdity have vanished up your beloved rabbit hole, at which you are staring like a hare in a headlight.

            Go on then, follow the leader.

  • Paul Barbara

    I have only just heard about this leaked plan:
    ‘The United States “Master Stroke” against Venezuela’: http://www.voltairenet.org/article201159.html
    Everything is there – the lies, False Flag agendas, fabricated videos and testimonies.
    And the UN does….sweet FA.

    ‘VENEZUELA: RECENT DEVELOPMENTS AND OPINIONS CONCERNING THE POSSIBILITY OF AN OPEN MILITARY ‘INTERVENTION’ BY THE UNITED STATES & CO’:
    https://southfront.org/venezuela-recent-developments-and-opinions-concerning-the-possibility-of-an-open-military-intervention-by-the-united-states-co/

      • Paul Barbara

        @ Blunderbuss October 1, 2018 at 16:34
        Sure they may well attack the economy, but they won’t be sending in mercenaries with sniper rifles, or encouraging European countries and the Irish Republic to invade us.
        Fomenting a military coup would be out of the question as well, I believe.

        • Tom

          If the Conservative Party and British military are already in their pockets, the US would have no need of a war to take over the UK. In fact, maybe they have already done so and that is why May was anointed leader with no election and why she is still in office?

      • Herbie

        Dunno. The Tories are proving themselves to be a laughing stock, incompetent and amateurish.

        They’re putting forward their least.

        A sacrifice.

        The Tories can’t take things forward now. They know that.

        As Cameron is overheard saying upon his resignation after the Brexit result, “why should I have to deal with this shit”. Something like that.

        It’s a changed world since that day, and I’m sure he well foresaw it.

        May can’t unite the peeps, not with late talk of Council Houses galore, not with late NHS promises, not even with ordinary Gav blokes from the North, as Defence Minister. Denis Healy, once held that post.

        A desperate effort to keep the Tory show on the road even as it was dying on its feet. BoJo trying to get tips from Steve Bannon on One Nation Conservatism.

        No.

        We need the real thing now.

        And that is what shall come.

        The Police and Army etc are just as pissed off as everyone else, so there’ll be no coup.

        Electing a lefty Labour govt is the stabilisation, you see, and everyone knows it.

        • N_

          If there’s a general election in the near future, the standing ovation at the Labour conference for another referendum with a Remain option will lose votes. (People don’t know what’s best for them.)

        • Paul Greenwood

          Don’t imagine it is different in Germany or other EU countries. Having spent 12 days navel-gazing over the equivalent of Head of MI5 contradicting Merkel they have been busy trying to save their skins in 2 State Elections this month by doing something to save the 13 million diesel car drivers from ruin…………with the manufacturers who sold them faulty goods wanting subsidies to sell them new models before the Courts order driving bans for anything pre-Euro 6d………

          Politicians cruised on the back of Financial Corruption and Credit Explosion and are now caught in the Downwave of Depression having chose to sacrifice their Voters to Save The Bankers

  • N_

    The Times reports that Sergei Kanev of the Insider has “fled” Russia for an “unnamed destination”. (Switzerland? Germany? Ukraine? Britain? United States?)

    They also say later on in the article that Insider editor Roman Dobrokhotov was in Britain when the report naming Colonel Chepiga was published and that he returned to Russia on Friday. So this smells like MI6 trying to put some spin on their being outplayed by the FSB.

    A previous investigation by the Insider, into Russian-backed mercenaries employed by the Wagner Group in the Central African Republic, was funded by “Prince” Michael of Kent’s pal, oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky. Khordorkovsky is boasting about getting Kanev out of Russia. He is also claiming that Russian security service officials were planning to accuse Kanev of “organising a terrorist act” against Putin. (What a load of crap!) Khodorkovsky’s boasting may indicate that he too has just received a well-aimed kick in the cobblers.

    • Rowan

      I’ve never been terribly keen on the “Wagner Group”. The legend of this group began as a media figleaf protecting Surkov and Plotnitsky, to cover the killing of an extremely popular local leftwing leader in the Lugansk Republic. They had no objective existence at the time, as far as I could see. What was being covered for was an FSB hit squad or something of the sort, sent by Surkov to rub out a threat to Plotnitsky. The hit squad used a thermobaric weapon, somewhat overkill, to add to the psychological impact.

    • Paul Greenwood

      Khordokovsky has a lot of money for a man who was imprisoned for trying to sell Russian oil reserves to Exxon. Does he have a Visa for the UK or simply a Golden Pass ?

      Oh BTW….in Grauniad this morning we read Mark Urban may have interviewed Skripal post-hospital……or might simply be printing his flyer from MI6……but it is interesting

  • SA

    Re the Irish border. De facto now we have more of a NI to mainland border in that anyone travelling there will have to have a passport or identity check but nothing of the sort is required if you cross from North to the Republic. So de facto we do have a border across the Irish sea, what is TM talking about, we just need to carry on as before.

    • N_

      More than that – vehicles can be searched and people questioned having travelled between GB and NI in either direction and as far as I’m aware this never happens when all they’ve done is crossed the Irish border. But to recognise this is to let the facts get in the way!

      • Paul Greenwood

        The three electricity interconnections are the key feature plus the Uk promising not to let in Chinese goods without paying duty – for which sin the UK Government owes €2.7 billion in lost Excise Duty

  • Sharp Ears

    Brokenshire is speaking with the word ‘Opportunity’ displayed behind him.

    S/be Opportunism. A year after the 72 deaths in the Grenfell Tower, he has just announceds to great applause from the seated Tory clones that he is banning all combustible materials on tower blocks, hospitals, care homes, schools and the like.

    Craig tweeted about it yesterday –

    @CraigMurrayOrg
    20h
    One year late but timed for their party conference. The Tories take news management to an entirely new level of disgusting.

    Craig Murray added,
    PoliticsHome
    @politicshome
    NEW: Government bans flammable cladding in wake of Grenfell tragedy
    https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/news/98672/government-bans-flammable-cladding-wake
    .
    https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1046457670889349121

    • Sharp Ears

      A message came this afternoon from Grenfell United via 38 Degrees thanking all who signed their petition. They say:
      [..]
      Today has been emotional. Housing Minister James Brokenshire has just announced a ban on dangerous combustible building materials, like the cladding that was used on Grenfell tower. [1] The government has chosen to put people before profit and you were a part of making that happen ……. so thank you.
      So many lives were turned upside down after the Grenfell tragedy. Since then, we’ve been campaigning hard as ‘Grenfell United’ for justice and change, to make sure no families have to go through what we did. [2] Your signature on our petition helped us pile the pressure on the government before the announcement when it really mattered. [3]
      Here’s what Ahmed Elgwahry, who lost his mother and sister in the fire, had to say:
      “It is heartbreakingly too late for our families but we’re one step closer to making sure other families across the country can go to bed at night safe in their homes.”
      The announcement means that new buildings, including schools and hospitals, won’t be allowed to use these dangerous combustible building materials. [4] But there’s still lots of cladding on existing buildings. The government have promised to fund the removal of existing cladding on social housing tower blocks and make sure companies do the same for private blocks, so we’ll keep campaigning until everyone is safe in their homes. [5]
      We’re determined that there will be change, in memory of the loved ones we’ve lost. Today has shown that something as simple as signing a petition can help make sure a tragedy like Grenfell never happens again.
      /..
      https://www.grenfellunited.org/

      • Paul Greenwood

        I doubt it will happen. Putting that stuff on wasn’t legal when it was done but the Council turned a blind eye and no-one did a proper Buildings Inspection.

        Go ahead believe the goofballs and rewind the tape for the next time it happens

          • Paul Greenwood

            Clearly the lack of Building Inspections goes right across the sector in London !

            A pedestrian has died after being hit by a window pane which fell 250 feet from a luxury apartment overlooking the Thames.

            The man, who has not been named, died instantly when the glass smashed on the ground outside The Corniche, a block of newly built multi-million pound flats on the Albert Embankment in Vauxhall, south London.

  • fraser watson

    thank goodness for guid folks like yu craig. we all marched in the anti Iraq war demos in glasgow. even my 12 yr old son didnae believe Blair and his evil pals.. keep fightimg the guid fight.. totall respect x fraser

  • Vivian O'Blivion

    On a lighter note (sort of) woman applying for a US visa waiver accidentally ticks yes that the question “Do you seak to engage in or have you ever engaged in terrorists activities, espionage, sabotage or genocide?”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45678517

    Mandie from Falkirk had to spend £800 trying to convince US Customs that she wasn’t really a terrorist. What kind of cretin includes a question like that on a form and expects an accurate response?

    • glenn_nl

      It’s been there for years – the main reason for it is they have a legal basis to get you / throw you out, should you try overthrowing the government and so on. They can refer you to the visa entry form, on which you falsely declared _not_ engaging in any such activities, so now you’re of a status such that you didn’t enter on a legal basis. Much easier to deal with.

      In the past, they generally ignored it if you ticked ‘Yes’. They’re much too excitable (not to say hysterical) these days, of course.

      • chris

        In the “good old days” the question was: “Are you or have you ever been a member of a communist party”. And they also asked about sexual orientation.

        The times they are a-changing….

        • N_

          Didn’t they ask “Are you a communist?” as well as “Are you a member of a communist party”? When did they introduce that kind of question and when did they remove it? I’ve often wondered whether famous Marxists from outside the US may have answered “No” in order to be allowed in. The only person I’ve ever heard of who took a “Yes, I bloody well am a communist” line is Asger Jorn.

      • Clark

        “…get you / throw you out, should you try overthrowing the government”

        Unless you’re already a citizen, in which case the Constitution grants you the Right to Bear Arms for that very purpose.

      • Clark

        Well you might like to meet some of the wonderful people who live there, for instance. Sibel Edmonds, William Binney, Daniel Ellsberg, Richard Stallman… As I get older, some of my favourites have been dying of course, or I’d mention Frank Zappa, Robert Parry etc. But there will be wonderful people in the oncoming generations, I’m sure.

        • N_

          Sophie Scholl was a great person who lived in Nazi Germany.

          If I were ever to apply for a US visa (I’m not entitled to a visa waiver), I’d probably get turned down anyway.

        • Rowan

          @Clark: “the wonderful people who live there, for instance. Sibel Edmonds, William Binney, Daniel Ellsberg, Richard Stallman… ” Clark, are you aware of the wholesale dismissal of Sibel by Vanessa Beeley & Eva Bartlett, as having become in effect an enemy disinfo agent of some sort? If not, see here for instance:
          https://twitter.com/caitoz/status/976756402902335489

          • Clark

            Yes, I encountered that charge some months ago.

            Sibel Edmonds was a whistleblower after 9/11, when she was a translator for the FBI. There’s no particular reason that she should have inside information about more recent events, but the publicity she gained has led to her being treated as a source about things unrelated to her experience. It is possible that this has led to false information being channelled to her.

            A similar thing seems to have happened to Susan Lindauer. Her first-hand testimony concerns the intense pressure to falsely incriminate Iraq, and the very specific warnings about the New York part of the 9/11 attacks – absolute political dynamite. However, some “very senior State Department official” who refuses to be named fed her a load of nonsense about pre-rigged demolition of the Twin Towers. It is obviously disinformation (how things break is my speciality), but if true, what a coward and traitor this unnamed State Department official would have to be! He can’t write it up and post it somewhere, not even anonymously? No. Apparently, he chooses a whistleblower who was never officially employed, with no protection, who the state tried to drug and discredit with accusations of mental illness. “Coward” wouldn’t cover it.

      • Rhys Jaggar

        You can have a very beautiful landmass overseen by very murderous psychopaths, you inow.

      • Andrew H

        That is this kind of ignorant remark that creates all these phobias. If people refuse to travel then it is hard for them to understand that we are all the same. As Rhys above points out, America is a very beautiful landmass and you should not allow your inbred prejudices to prevent you from exploring it.

          • Andrew H

            What I meant is you will find good and descent people in America just as you will find twats in your hometown. (and in roughly the same proportions)

        • N_

          You’re confusing the US with America. The US accounts for less than a quarter of America and about a third of its population. That so many English speakers in the US call the country “America” shows up their parochialism.

          • Paul Greenwood

            It is because they cannot bring themselves to consider it a UNION of States which begs the question is it a Confederation ?

    • StephenR

      In the 1950s when asked on a US visa application “Do you intend to undermine the Constitution of the United States of America” Gilbert Harding replied “Sole purpose of visit”, a reply that many people in Britain felt was the only sensible reply to a very silly question. He was nearly denied a visa.

      • N_

        Good to hear of someone treating the toilet paper called the “US constitution” for what it is.

        Raya Dunayevskaya wrote some good stuff but her proposition in her 1950s book Marxism and Freedom that a socialist revolution would be along the same lines as, but going a bit further than, the US slaveowners’ “revolution” of the 18th century was laughable rubbish.

    • Paul Greenwood

      If you have a Visa from State Department Border Security cannot refuse you entry. This is a belt and braces question

      • N_

        A US immigration official can deny entry at the border to a foreign citizen who holds a visa.

  • Clive p

    There is another hysterical piece in the Guardian by Tisdall. This time it’s all the fault of Russia that the turnout in the Macedonian referendum was too low to produce a valid result. Apparently they used the same techniques as in the US in 2016. There is of course no evidence produced but it must be Russia’s fault as without a name change Macedonia can’t join the EU and NATO. QED.

    • Anthony

      Tisdall has emerged from the blindside in recent months to occupy the role of the media’s most deranged chickenhawk.

        • Jude 93

          Blunderbuss: ***Any politiicians who support a war should be required to fight in it.***

          Agreed, and while you’re at it make it compulsory for all pro-war journos, think tankers and so on, to take the first flight to the war zone as soon as they’ve written a pro-military intervention article, book, essay etc. I’m no fan of conscription, but is it a pure coincidence that politicians and journalists/intellectuals have become much more bellicose since the end of the military draft? The Viet Nam war was very unpopular among the chatterati – whereas the reverse was true of the Iraq and Afghan invasions. These days there’s no danger of civilians in the UK or the US being called up to fight, so everyone’s free to engage in faux-macho warlike posturing without worrying about any personal cost. Maybe the decadence of the west began the day rulers started opting out of fighting in the wars they started.

          • SA

            First point. Many of those journos would be delighted to join the arms length pressing of a button to kill at a distance.’ Secondly in case you have not noticed war itself is being outsourced either to proxies or to security companies like blackwater.

          • Jude 93

            SA: You say “First point…Secondly….” as if you’ve refuted something I said. Can’t see it myself. Journos may be happy to push buttons from a distance, but there’s zero evidence of any desire on their part to engage in real fighting on the ground (which, contrary to your implication, is still a real part of warfare) – for either private or state forces.

          • Blunderbuss

            @SA

            “Many of those journos would be delighted to join the arms length pressing of a button to kill at a distance”.

            Reminds me of a science fiction prog I saw years ago. I think it might have been an episode of Star Trek.

            Two planets were at war. The “fighting” was done on computers but there wasn’t a battlefield. Instead, each side agreed to send x thousand people to the gas chambers when there was a hit.

          • SA

            Jude 93
            No intention to offend just some attempt at rediculing the whole concept of current obsessions with war by the media

        • Ingwe

          “Any politicians who support a war should be required to fight in it”

          Or, at the very least, be required to ensure that their children are comprised in front-line combat units.

        • Jo1

          “Any politicians who support a war should be required to fight in it.”

          Been saying that for years. Suddenly they’d see the value of dialogue.

          • Paul Greenwood

            Teddy Roosevelt’s son was KIA at Normandy. Asquith’s son was KIA on The Somme. Mao’s son was KIA in Korea. Stalin’s son was killed as POW by Germans.

            George’s V’s son fought at Jutland. Elizabeth II son fought at Falklands.

            Churchill’s son did not fight. Blair’s son did not wear uniform.

    • Jeremn

      Lovely article. Russia alleged to have done x, y and z, whilst “Mattis’s attempt to bolster the yes vote, backed by $8m in US congressional funding, were complemented by visits by Angela Merkel, Germany’s chancellor, Jens Stoltenberg, the Nato secretary general, and Federica Mogherini, the EU’s foreign policy chief. Britain’s Foreign Office reportedly provided referendum funds.”

        • SA

          And forty new facebook subscribers per day. I think the above quote posted by Jeremen is pricelss, do they really see no irony in this? But it is even better when you look at the preceeding sentence:

          “Zaev said at one point he had received numerous reports that Greek businessmen “sympathetic to the Russian cause” had paid rightwing nationalist groups as much as $21,000 (£16,000) to commit acts of violence. He was supported by James Mattis, the US defence secretary, who declared on a visit to Skopje that there was “no doubt they [Russia] have transferred money and are conducting broader influence campaigns”.

          Mattis’s attempt to bolster the yes vote, backed by $8m in US congressional funding, were complemented by visits by Angela Merkel, Germany’s chancellor, Jens Stoltenberg, the Nato secretary general, and Federica Mogherini, the EU’s foreign policy chief. Britain’s Foreign Office reportedly provided referendum funds.”
          I mean, really?

    • Paul Greenwood

      It is true. Russia is the Global Puppetmaster. Only Netanyahu is immune which is why Netanyahu should e crowned Global Overlord and bring the East under his sway now the West has capitulated

  • Jeremn

    Photos, photos. Ah, but we have been here before. The Paris Match BUK photo, the key piece of evidence of a Russian anti-aircraft launcher in Ukraine. This very detailed article looks at that particular hoax.

    https://energia.su/mh17/en/article/1/

    Note the sentence: “And since all of these news rely on Bellingcat’s work shown above, which in turn completely relies on the Paris Match photos, it means that the media’s evidence in all of these claims are the dubious Paris Match photos that were published at least about a week after the crash and look photoshopped even to the naked eye.”

    Now we have more photos that are impossible to verify, and the media is off again. Shake and repeat.

    • Herbie

      I suppose either or both of these named Russian chaps could sue those involved in the publication of their names and photographs.

      Thy don’t have to travel to the UK to do so.

      These publications, web-based and msm would then have to prove whatever allegations they’ve made.

      Because Russia is not a signatory to the Lugano Agreement, the UK Court could refuse the application, but they’d have to give some reasons why England was not a suitable place to hear such a case.

        • Herbie

          Well, it’s the chance the Russians have been waiting for.

          Getting something on the official record.

          The official British record. That would be a coup.

          Rather than just media garbage and foghorn diplomacy.

          What impediments do you foresee in this very obvious course of action?

    • Igor P.P.

      Here is a Russian MoD analysis of Donetsk vids that walks you through the signs of doctoring: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAFZbjyoqok (in English)

      People are still reluctant to suspect doctored vids even though they know the tech is there. I always wondered why these road vids are so low resolution, much lower than any dash cam. I watch a lot dashcam vids and I never saw anything like it. Turns out they were downsampled so they could be doctored convincingly.

      • Olaf S

        There is support for the first part of the Russian documentation by the BND (the ”German CIA”). They did an analysis at an early stage after the MH17 tragedy – I remember well the article in der Spiegel about it – and concluded that the BUK battery in question came from the Ukraine.
        ( Important to the Russians, because the US and UKR are eager to find proof that Russia is delivering heavy weapons to the separatists. Another matter that the BND claims the BUK was conquered by the separatists and then used to shoot down the plane with).

        • Igor P.P.

          I think these are different theories. The conquered Buk would have fired from separtist-controlled territory which Russia always denied.

        • Borncynical

          “Another matter that the BND claims the BUK was conquered by the separatists and then used to shoot down the plane with”.
          The Russians submitted to the JIT a couple of weeks ago their evidence about the history of the BUK missile which purportedly brought down MH17, based on the fragments showing a unique serial number. Those records showed that they had sold it for the arsenal of Western Ukrainian forces in the mid 1990s. Pre-empting any suggestion that the East Ukrainian separatists might have ‘stolen’ the missile, RT reported that Ukraine had previously been asked by the JIT if they could account for all the BUKs known to be in their possession and they replied “Yes”, thereby making it very difficult for them to now argue that the separatists must have illegally acquired it. The Russian evidence looked to be quite compelling but it remains to be seen what the JIT do with it, and how Ukraine responds. I am not holding my breath though and suspect it will be yet another example of evidence provided by the Russians being ignored and regarded as inconsequential.

  • mark golding

    A ‘shadowy’ exposure Craig, well thought out indeed. The DIS changed to DI and a good source within JFIG suggests that imagery analysis gathered from HDef images from the web, UAV’s, satellites, covert/overt CCTV and aerial imagery from 2000 feet is a well known distillate of truth extraction from MI6 who have confidence in this developing service.

  • N_

    Someone should report British regime media to the International H*locaust Remembrance Alliance! In a report on Radio 4 on the death of singer Charles Aznavour, the BBC said his family fled from “his homeland” as massacres occurred “during the breakup of the Ottoman Empire”. They didn’t once mention the words “Armenian” or “Turkish”, let alone mention that the massacres from which Aznavour’s family fled were part of the genocidal h*locaust against Armenians, committed by Turks.

    • Herbie

      There’s so much ethnic cleansing of Christians, old ancient Christians, and there’s no real msm narrative of them, their history, decline and death.

      They’re subsumed into a binary fight in ME between Zionists and Muslims, in which there is to be no complicating other. That’s the msm narrative.

      In the two major fights of the moment, there are Syrian Christians and Palestinian Christians dying day and daily. Lebanon was similar. All over was similar.

      These were ancient and diverse cultures, where Muslim, Jew and Christian lived in harmonious whole.

      It’s horrendous how these wonderful civilisations are being destroyed by a naive materialism.

      • SA

        Herbie

        “These were ancient and diverse cultures, where Muslim, Jew and Christian lived in harmonious whole”
        Yes indeed thank you for that. Many people are unaware of this. Many people are unaware that large Jewish communities also existed in many countries in the ME and were completely integral parts of the culture as were and to a certain extent still are some minority Christian communities. This and even this current obsession with Shi’a vs Sunni are all sad consequences of constant divide and rule post colonial policy to divert from real external enemies.
        Sadly there has been mass immigration of Christian communities. In 2012 I met a very nice Dr from US in Nice and he even at that time said that the plan is to move out a lot of Syrian Christians to the US and west. , even before the Syrian crisis became fully blown. At the time this did not really seem very significant but now it puts what happened into a premeditated context.

        • Mary Paul

          Until quite recently the region of TransJordan was a large area, to the east of and including modern Jordan, occupied by wandering tribes. Both Jews and Palestinians lived in and around it historically and it was for a long time under Ottoman control. It may be a source of strife that the Jewish people today occupy the area covered by modern day Israel, which is seen by many as the rightful home of the Palestinians but we seem at times in danger of forgetting that the Jew are also from the same region historically as the Palestinians. The countries of the modern Middle East are a recent construct.

          • SA

            Mary Paul
            No one disputes that Jews lived there before 1948 it is the fact that many Palestinians have lost thier homes as a result with no right of return whereas those who settled came from several centuries of European background and by choice came to settle and in the process of settling, expropriated the land..

          • Paul Greenwood

            So is Modern Germany, Czech Republic, Poland, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Belarus, Ukraine, Turkey, Croatia,

  • nevermind

    Surely, if the EU is akin/like the Soviet union, then this right wing rabble in Goverment is acting up to become just like Nazi Germany.

    Looking at their ME botom pal zio netanyahell and licking his feet at every turnof bastardly action by their IDFSS shows how much they are engaged in the zionist revival of the third Reich.

    So vi et.

    • Clark

      Petrow’s LinkedIn page looks like it has just been created. There’s only one item shown in “Activity”.

      That doesn’t necessarily mean that the company data is fake; Petrow might have created the LinkedIn page to publicise genuine credentials to demonstrate that he really is real – if Putin went on TV and personally asked me to give an interview, I’m sure I’d be feeling the heat. Someone might like to check and see if the companies really have the history claimed.

      • S.N.

        Yes, but if he needed indeed to make urgent damage control, would he build it post factum in Linkedin (US Microsoft owned) and all with German work history, which is not a problem for MI5,6,7.. even for Bellingcrap to ask immediately conformation from BND or whatever other German security services are in charge? The universities are probably even easier for confirmation as the information should be available online for diploma/degree verification?
        BTW Linkedin is not Facebook, so no activity doesn’t mean nothing, still he has 230 contacts and this is not a couple day job to acquire such amount… (unless of course GRU in order to provide some clumsy alibi, decided to sacrifice 230 of its still not busted assets) 😉

        • S.N.

          Oops, sorry – I missed that this story had some development meanwhile: From the company Natural Mojo, where Linkedin’s Petrow claims work, there is already statement that their Alexander Petrow doesnt have nothing to do with the Salisbury’s Alexander Petrov.
          https://lenta.ru/news/2018/10/02/nepetrow/

  • N_

    An ASDA delivery driver refused to carry a heavily pregnant woman’s £200 of shopping to her front door, choosing instead to spread it all over a communal hallway, while her young son was crying. The company promises to carry in any shopping they deliver, and after they realised this was getting publicity they took time out from pinning up notices on their church board – and from encouraging employees to compete with each other by wearing badges, and from turning freezers and refrigerators to illegally high temperatures – to apologise to the customer…by giving her a bottle of champagne! And most commenters at the Sun newspaper’s website support the driver. They think the woman must be scum and that she she shouldn’t have opened her legs. Those few who criticise the driver focus not on the vile way that he treated a pregnant woman but on how he appears to be an immigrant. Welcome to Britain and how many people here really behave and think. The Sun remains the country’s most read newspaper.

    • Michael McNulty

      I always describe the Sun as a hate-sheet. And to think its owner belittles foreigners after he renounced his Australian citizenship to acquire British citizenship and media interests, then renounced his British citizenship to acquire American citizenship and media interests. He’s the biggest refugee on the planet!

      I wouldn’t line a dog’s toilet with a Murdoch newspaper. You shouldn’t treat dog shit like that.

      • N_

        Agreed. But I didn’t know Rupert Murdoch had ever been a British citizen. Didn’t he renounce his Australian citizenship to become a US citizen so that he could own US television stations? Britain has no law against foreigners owning the media.

  • Yonatan

    This still doesn’t answer the question of how these two, whoever and whatever they are, having arrived at the Skripal home around midday at the earliest managed to poison the Skripals who left 9 to 10 am in the morning and didn’t return.

    • Dailyshocker.news

      Just as much change they did return as didn’t.

      Just as much chance they came back early and were there most of the morning.

      Truth is we don’t know, so making definite statements likes yours is just unhelpful.

      • Tony

        If we assume the Skripals did return, one question remains , why in the morning did they use Wilton rd , whilst in the afternoon they traveled via Devizes rd. Of course this may be nothing , a choice of variance

      • Igor P.P.

        Of course it is possible that they did return. But can we honestly say that there is “as much chance” of that when the rest of their movements has been established and made public? When all roads leading to their house are CCTV, but police was asking the public to help locate his car? When Skripals themselves have undoubtedly been questioned by niw? When a proof would strenghten the police’s case? No, there is not as much chance. The chances barely exist.

        • Borncynical

          Igor,
          I agree. No evidence has been presented to firm up information about the Skripals’ movements in those missing hours after being seen on CCTV shortly after leaving their house in the morning. With commercial, municipal and private CCTV everywhere – including the Skripal house, or so we are led to believe – can it really not be confirmed whether they did or didn’t return home? Aside from CCTV, we are also led to believe that both Sergei and Yulia have recovered sufficiently to have been released from hospital. Is it really credible that neither of them can recall what their movements were that morning in order to fill in the gap officially? Or is it more likely that what they say would not fit in with the Boshirov/Petrov narrative? Rather like Charlie Rowley forgetting where he “found” the perfume bottle. Convenient and intentionally unenlightening.

      • SA

        Whether they returned or not is irrelevant. It is difficult to envisage that they encountered the poison at home only to succumb in the centre of town given the presumed high toxicity of the novice. Do either they were not poisoned by novichok (whatever that is) or they were not poisoned with novichok from the door knob on thier house door, either way the facts as presented to not fit the story as told.

    • jake

      the gloopy stuff on the door handle wasn’t for the Skirpals but for whoever tried to get into their house later in the day.

      • Blunderbuss

        Are you saying that the Skripals had information that someone was going to break into their house so they put gloop on the door handle when they went out?

          • Rowan

            @Jake: “the gloopy stuff on the door handle wasn’t for the Skirpals but for whoever tried to get into their house later in the day.” Do you mean that whoever gassed the Skripals in the park (or poisoned them in the restaurant), also put the gloop on the Skripals’ doorhandle at home, knowing they wouldn’t be back?

          • jake

            @ Blunderbuss, don’t you find it intriguing that having discovered the couple slumped on a park bench he hot foots it straight to their house? Why? But no, I don’t think he was specifically targeted, it was who ever turned up (as I said) and even then the objective was not their actual assassination.

            @Rowan, if by “whoever” you mean exactly the same person then “no” that’s not what I intended to say ( although I dare it’s possible albeit improbable). Other than that, pretty much “yes”.

    • Michael McNulty

      A post on tapnewswire yesterday by Gordon Logan said he thinks the two Russians may have arrived in Salisbury to arrange Sergei’s return to Russia (an assumption possibly supported by their turning their phones off), and as MI6 wouldn’t like that one little bit they poisoned him and his daughter with who-knows-what and tried to frame Russia for it.

  • Clark

    In all the Brexit hullabaloo, I haven’t heard one single word about the UK’s gas supply, or rather the impending lack of it. The UK would not have got through the cold snap last March without electricity blackouts except for Theresa May declaring an Emergency Gas Day, which compels the UK’s European partners to supply the UK with gas.

    Instead, we have the Skripal circus, the target being the Russian government. I do not believe this is a coincidence; Europe and the UK are becoming increasingly dependent upon Russian gas.

    Poison gas. Poison? Gas? Russia?

    Anti-fracking protestors sent down for fifteen months for “causing a public nuisance”.

    • nevermind

      Absolutely agree Clark, the protectors of the environment water supply and our national and supra national interests in National parks? their ecology, not to forget, peoples assets land housing and businesses.

      It is criminal to overide planning laws in favour of offshore operators who pay donations to political parties, but are taxed in Lichtenstein, Switzerland or some other tax avoiding entity under BRITISH JURISDICTION
      The tip of this insult dealt to us by the Tories, is that companies like Ineos and Cuadrilla are protected by hundreds of Police, actively involved in wrecking rules regs and the environment.
      And we pay for the policing that had put these non violent activists in prison
      Shame pn you judges, justice once again colludes with crypto fascists and criminals that wreck a beutiful countryside.
      Btw. No chance of any reduction in energy prices, but big profits for wreckers.

      Fight them, causr they dont play by the rules, bend existing laws and destroy our childrens natural legacy.

      Thanls for highlighting it Clark.

    • Aslangeo

      Plenty of information if you look at energy blogs. Basically we in Britain have long term problems
      Uk production is declining, about half the demand now as North Sea fields decline. Risk to pipelines from rust and lack of maintance.imports from Norway make up a fair portion of the rest. Also four LNG terminals but not enough export capacity available, also LNG is much more expensive than piped gas. Brexit has little effect on oil and gas

      Russian gas seems an anathema to the Uk but is powering mainland Europe. The 150 bum a year exported by Russia cannot be replaced, just not enough global capacity, now or near future. Longer term concern is if the Russians switch to Chinese markets, they may no longer need Europe any more. Then we are truly stuffed.

      • nevermind

        The Uk is surrounded by latent energy wether its wind waves tides or sea currents.
        This fallacy that we are running out of energy, when it is large TnCs and political shinanigans that perpetuate fossile fuel depletion, that press for ever more ludacrous ways of extracting unsustainable and polluting oils and gases.

        Its possible to become self sustaining in energy, but the political will is lacking
        OBN rules ueber alles.

        • Clark

          Nevermind, very true; there is no shortage of energy. This is about (1) getting through winters without freezing old folk to death, until the infrastructure can be built, and (2) prying that off-shore money out of the troughers to pay for said infrastructure.

          • giyane

            Clark and nevermind

            Criminal Cameron , when he took power in 2010, found a UK poised to switch from gas to electric heat pumps for heating across the board. Nigel Lawson disparaged the whole idea of alternative energy. instead these criminals ignored Iraq and plunged our country into Libya and Syria in order to control the fuel supplies. This is a policy that has gone monumentally wrong because it was founded on the malice of Al Qaida.

            The Foreign Office massively underestimated Russia and China. These are all human errors which stem from overwheening arrogance in Whitehall Exactly the same arrogance that makes bonkers Tories think they can tell the EU to give us cake and eat it because we are British. The EU sees us as irresponsible Europeans, which we are, but Whitehall only sees the cherries in the their fruitcake, which are Anglo-US relations and Islamist jihadism.

            Talking of the toxic Islamists and their sleazy patrons who have this week taken over an extremely un-interested Paradise Circus in central Birmingham, Islamist wonky philosophy is that the Christians who wield the military power can be forgiven anything and everything because they are not disobeying their religion. They can fornicate, colonise, carpet-bomb, and consume the world’s resources with impunity because “”””” as the Islamists choose to see it “”””” their religion does not command them to have any compassion.

            Those same Islamists then choose to make takfir, i.e. utterly condemn , all of the Muslims other than themselves because they do havce a religion which commands good behaviour and they are not being good Muslims. By this total bollocks they turn all their wrath and malice against the Muslims. here comes the rub. Who inculcates all this wrath and malice? Why those saintly Christians , by extra-ordinary-torture-rendition-brain-washing them.

            Mundus fuctatus est. The world would have been totally fucked by this evil conspiracy, conjury, symbiotic relationship of pure evil, if it had not been for Russia and China who destroyed all Hillary Clinton’s Lafarge concrete bunkers housing Al Qaida and CIA/ SAS in Syria and with the help of Donald Trump, rounded up the brain-washed trash in Idlib, where they await immediate disposal. either through Turkey which is paid by the EU to contain them for future use in the Far East, like Myanmar.

            But if those Idlib jihadists have any stupid ideas, like Henry Kissinger explained, that covert operations is the same as social work, they will be rounded up and destroyed, while British generals and politicians wring their hands and squirt crocodile tears like the Walrus and the Carpenter until they have eaten every one.

            Having been got at by the British Foreign Office, and not being a Muslim, Craig is fascinated by this utter irrelevance of the Israeli novichok distraction, while Russia and China are being adults in the room and dealing with the ravages of the neo-cons.
            Truth is, that after the plan to re-colonuise the Middle East the Tory party hasn’t got a plan and its plan has gone horribly wrong. And I have to see them in the flesh, strutting their ignorant faces in central Birmingham.

      • Hatuey

        Askangeo: “Russian gas seems an anathema to the Uk but is powering mainland Europe.“

        “a fitting example is Gazprom Export, which according to its statistics, supplied 16.3 BCm of gas last year to the UK (34 percent of its import volumes), without specifying the origins of the above gas or disclosing whether the volumes in question were physically delivered to Britain or were swapped elsewhere.”
        https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/Why-Russian-Gas-Is-Critical-For-The-UK.html

        I commented on this stuff just the other day. BP also has a significant stake in the Russian state owned oil giant Rosneft, around 20%.

        When it comes to business and profits, you’d need to be quite silly to expect externalities in Salisbury to get in the way.

    • Clark

      Nevermind and Aslangeo, thank you both. Aslangeo, thanks for your comment above also:

      https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/09/spy-games/comment-page-3/#comment-790235

      “Gavin Williamson wants to boost the UK military presence in the Arctic” Sharp Ears, above.

      “Kommersant publishes interviews with people from Chepiga’s home village. […] Kommersant is owned by close Putin political ally, Putin’s former student flatmate, Chariman of Gazprominvestholdings and the UK’s richest resident, Alisher Usmanov” – Craig’s previous post.

      And the whole Skripal circus kicked off in the cold snap last March, as the UK was scraping through a gas crisis, Theresa May declared an Emergency Gas Day, and pretended to turn away a tanker of Russian LPG:

      https://squonk.tk/blog/2015/03/15/the-general-discussion-thread/comment-page-94/#comment-28388

      I don’t know what the connections are, but things keep pointing to the UK’s gas supply problems, which seem like they would be amplified by Brexit.

      Centrica Storage are the ones that should be in court, not three anti-fracking demonstrators getting sent down.

      • BrianFujisan

        Hi Clark

        Maybe the Judge who sent them to prison should be in court too.

        Judge Robert Altham, his Familiy business service off shore oil rigs.. Mmm.

        sinister stuff.. Police Scotland were forced to back down from labeling peacfull Anti Fracking protestors as Domestic extremists, and looked set to call those of us at Faslane as the same.

    • Radar O'Reilly

      Resilient energy is under planning post british exit

      http://www.eirgridgroup.com/the-grid/projects/celtic-interconnector/the-project/

      as Ireland doesnt want to be ‘accidentally’ cut-off, so they and France are testing & planning a half million volts ‘high voltage’ D.C. interconnect, like has been proved in China. (in long distance A.C. links, the current flows near the surface – skin effect- and you really need direct current for the lowest-losses.

      • Blunderbuss

        I think it’s capacitance, rather than skin effect, that makes AC unsuitable for undersea cables. I don’t think skin effect would be very significant at a frequency of 50 Hertz.

        • Clark

          You need DC. AC induces currents into anything conductive in the surroundings, causing losses.

          I’m all in favour of these interconnects, but we’ll need a lot of them. The one Radar links to is only 0.7 gig, and we’d need 27 gig to replace electricity generation from gas alone, and that’s less than half of the UK’s gas usage.

    • Michael McNulty

      Talk of gas independence ignores the fact if fracking poisons our water we will become water dependent, but who’d sell us that resource anyway? In the end we’ll either have to abandon Britain or else build large plants similar to petro-chemical plants just to purify the water. This is why I suspect fracking is less about gas and more about depopulation for Agenda 21 (or Agenda 2030 I think they call it now).

  • Dailyshocker.news

    This is about skripal stitching up Russian agents across Europe, and him supplying info for the trump dossier.

    Both sides wanted him out of the way.

    It’s ridiculous because the British let the Russians in to do it, and they decided to be utterly brazen.

  • Hatuey

    To be frank, frank, I think you should put more effort into what you think rather than getting too bogged down in the views of others. Why not, for example, get your own website and tell the world in your terms what you think is going on?

  • Paul Barbara

    ‘The Rockefellers, Morgans and the Global Media Censors’: https://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/globalism/rockefeller.htm
    ‘”…the J.P. Morgan [banking] interests…. and their subsidiary organizations got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press of the US…. They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers. …an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information….”

    –Congressman Oscar Callaway statements were included in the Congressional Record (vol. 54, February 9, 1917, p. 2947)’

    At last I’ve found it. I saw the information in a video some time back, but have since been unable to find it.
    THIS explains what happened to the MSM in the States.
    But in the early 1950’s, with the CIA’s ‘Operation Mockingbird’, it took off around the world:
    ‘…The CIA’s Operation Mockingbird Manipulated Media’:
    https://www.wanttoknow.info/mass_media/operation-mockingbird
    “Operation Mockingbird [was] a domestic propaganda campaign aimed at promoting the views of the CIA within the media. Reporters shared their notebooks with the CIA. Editors shared their staffs. Some of the journalists were Pulitzer Prize winners, distinguished reporters who considered themselves ambassadors without portfolio for their country.”
    ~~ From Lifting the Veil Chapter VII on Operation Mockingbird’

    As Udo Ulfkotte writes in his book ‘Journalists for Hire’, it’s still going on, on steroids. Also see here:
    ‘Udo Ulfkotte – Journalists for Hire: How the CIA Buys the News’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3AW2YFbqJE

    • Cherrycoke

      Harding writes: “There are fresh details of Skripal’s career as an undercover British asset. In summer 1996, an unnamed MI6 intelligence officer recruited him.”

      That wouldn’t be Mark Urban’s old pal Pablo Miller? Unbelievable that Harding would not know this. Understandable that Urban does not seem to mention it in his book.

    • TJ

      From the article-

      ‘the Russian spy was living quietly and apparently safely in an MI6-bought house in Salisbury.’

      So HMG bought him the house, and now HMG buys the house from him so he gets the cash, that is money laundering. Of course this crime was committed by HMG, so no interviews under caution, no arrests, no charges, no court case, no convictions, no time at Her Majestys Pleasure. Anyone would think we lost the Second World War.

      • Mary Paul

        Quietly – that includes regular trips to Europe, and Africa, advising among others EU governments on how the Russian intelligence system worked, who knows what else. Possibly also advising Spanish police (he was based at Madrid embassy for several years) on background to rise of Russian mafia in Spain. Does not sound like living quietly to me.

    • TJ

      ‘he was at first reluctant to recognise he had been the target of a Kremlin “murder plot”’

      “Murder plot” in quotes there, denoting it is obviously not true.

      ‘ doctors managed to save his and his daughter’s life using “novel therapies”.’

      “novel” in quotes there, denoting it is obviously not true, this is more “cartoon” than “novel” methinks.

      ‘Skripal said he was reluctant to to be quoted directly, explaining: “You see, we are afraid of Putin.”’

      Russians still use patronymic names so while Vladimir Putin is the name used by Westerners Russians refer to him as Vladimir Vladimirovich, an obvious mistake in this piece of black propaganda from Mark Urban and the Guardian.

      ‘The book does not answer the key question as to why Skripal’s former organisation – the GRU – tried to kill him ‘

      Still zero evidence has been presented of GU involvement or of a plot to kill him.

      ‘His two would-be assassins – Col Anatoliy Chepiga and “Alexander Petrov”, a pseudonym – are career intelligence officers, the government believes.’

      None of that has been proved at all, There is no proof presented of them being assassins or of them one being positively identified as Anatoliy Chepiga or that Alexander Petrov is a pseudonym.

      ‘Skripal’s current whereabouts are unknown. Yulia Skripal has indicated that she intends to return to Russia at some stage, but so far appears not to have done so.’

      Their whereabouts are known to HMG as they are holding them.

      My conclusion is that this Guardian article is some seriously black propaganda, what is next? Do we get a film? “The eternal Russian” perhaps?

  • SA

    Running commentary on TM’s interview on R4 now.
    Backstop just a confidence trick, believe me I will ensure the integrity if the U.K. But what she is really saying is we will carry in as before, a de facto border in the Irish Sea which has been the norm except we will strengthen this by stealth and without fanfare.
    We will still be exploiting other countries by not training doctors and others and grant visas to those who earn more than £50K but selectively helping industry by selectively allowing low paid workers when her industrial colleagues want them and trying to train some proles to carry out these low paid jobs.

    • BrianFujisan

      SA

      check out this from Patrick Kielty –

      “6. This cunning plan was sold to us on the basis that we were all part of the EU therefore fixation on nationality was so last World War.

      “7. Implementing the Good Friday Agreement was torturous (think Brexit with actual bombs, not metaphorical suicide vests) but we finally made peace. Yet 20 years later NI remains a divided society.

      “8. Thanks to your glorious Brexit vision Northern Ireland will become more divided as some form of economic border checks will become part of daily lives.

      “9. If those checks take place between NI and Ireland, the Nationalists who were once happy being part of the UK will change their mind.

      “10. If they take place in the Irish Sea some Unionists will be livid. However they’ll still support being part of the UK (the clue is in the Unionist bit)

      “11. Your Brexit lies have opened a Pandora’s box for Northern Ireland. It’s one reason why the majority of people in NI voted to remain in the EU (almost as if they knew more about the fragile equilibrium of their politics than you)

      “12. Barely mentioned before Brexit, a border poll is now inevitable thanks to your monumental ignorance.

      “13. When that poll is eventually held the Nationalists who were once content being part of a Northern Ireland within the UK and EU will vote to leave the UK to feel as Irish and European as they did before Brexit.

      “14. The poll will be much closer thanks to your Brexit folly and could easily be lost by Unionists, breaking up the UK.

      “15. Any break up of the Union will be your fault (a tad inconvenient as a member of the Conservative and er, Unionist party)

      “16. The EU is not responsible for your blundering lack of foresight. Like most people in Northern Ireland they were happy with the status quo.

      “17. By the time the penny drops that you can’t preserve the Union you want without the one you don’t, it will be too late.

      “18. You will be remembered not as the Churchillian visionary you delude yourself to be but the ignoramus who triggered the break up of the UK.

      “19. If there’s any justice all this will come to pass when you’re Prime Minister so you can finally swim in the constitutional sewage you’ve created (though we all know you’ll be in Nice with your trotters up)

      “20. Meantime, if you’re so concerned about keeping Northern Ireland totally aligned with the rest of the UK where’s your support for our same sex marriage and women’s right to choose? Your silence is deafening.”

      https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/brexit/the-eu-is-not-responsible-for-your-blundering-lack-of-foresight-comedian-patrick-kielty-slams-boris-johnsons-brexit-plan-37366858.html

      • frankywiggles

        A tame pat, fearful of a breakup of “the union” advising the british how they can avert it.

      • Andyoldlabour

        @BrianFujisan,
        Compared to the rest of the UK, there was a relatively low turnout in Northern Ireland for the referendum vote – 62%, and it was split 440,000 Remain, 340,000 Leave.
        Theresa May for all her obvious faults voted Remain, so Kielty’s anger should be aimed at Cameron, and possibly the EU for all its previous failures in conceding anything to the UK.

    • Hatuey

      SA, if you heard that interview, you will agree that the BBC attacked from a right wing perspective. Perspective is everything. If you attack from the right, you are ratcheting opinion towards Boris, Reese-Mogg, and “no deal”. The interview ended with Kuensburg talking excitedly about crowds cheering for Boris at conference.

      The establishment showed its hand today and announced that the Tory party conference is going to be May’s Dealey Plaza, with Boris waiting in the book repository and Reese-Mogg sitting behind the grassy knoll.

      Back and to the side, back and to the side, back and to the side…

  • Hatuey

    The BBC just torpedoed May in an interview on Radio 4. I highly recommend listening to it, it was brutal.

    I have no pity, of course, May is an obnoxious and rank lightweight, but, at the same time, we have to wonder at and question the agenda of the BBC here.

    • BrianFujisan

      Hatuey

      Don’t Ever be fooled by the bbc..there’s a plan afoot . obnoxious could easily be seen as a TAME word for Evil..when one considers the bbc’s war crimes

      • Blunderbuss

        “BBC presenter Dan Walker has said it is “awkward” for people to know how much he earns since the BBC started publishing the pay of its top stars.

        “The TV host was revealed to earn between £220,000 and £229,999 for his roles on BBC Breakfast and Football Focus”.

        Why is it awkward? I used to be a civil servant. My salary was published and I didn’t find it awkward. I actually found it useful because I could show critics that I was paid a lot less than they thought.

  • Sharp Ears

    A new science park has been opened at Porton Down.

    21st September
    Official opening of Porton Science Park
    https://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/16894076.official-opening-of-porton-science-park/
    A MULTI-MILLION pound science park specialising in health and life sciences has been officially opened at Porton Down.
    The Beech-Allen Building is the first phase of Porton Science Park.

    Our friend, Mr Aitkenhead –
    ‘Gary Aitkenhead, the chief executive of Dstl, added: “At Dstl, we have a strong track record of working with entrepreneurs to help protect our armed forces and the British public, and the new science park can only strengthen these relationships and help create a world-leading science and technology hub in south Wiltshire.” ‘

    • Jo

      Probably going to experiment on all those dna and blood samples taken by americans from Russians to further biological warfare? And or bionic warfare development?

  • Radar O’Reilly

    frank. Hi Craig. How is that MI5 money? seeing as you are the
    controlled opposition

    Woolwich was fake. You and Alex jones say it was real.

    Hi frank, I don’t know Craig, other than through his books, website & his brave and honourable actions in the past. As this blog episode is subtitled “Spy Games” I thought I’d reply to your equally valid thoughts, but these are just my opinions on ‘the Games’.

    He’s left your post up for many hours, so he’s not an evil spook, if at all. I think you might possibly be over applying black and white views, when there is so much rather nuanced greyscale behaviour in the world at present.

    Corroborating evidence on your side is that the UK spookland’s first protocol was/is “control the communications channel”, that the USA has been massively indulging in PSYOPS since at least the 1970s, and recently deregulated their laws prohibiting domestic PSYOPS. UK Cabinet has had spooks on the team since at least Charles Farr, if not before, and that current UK Foreign Policy is not looking historically accurate and relevant, when looked at with focus. The worldwide matrix of intel agencies seem to be telling some/many politicians what to do, except currently in South Korea and maybe Austria & JC, locally. The assault on citizen’s personal data has been relentless, probably since it can then be used, and has been used, for targeted blackmail and intimidation, quasi-total-media/press-control and judicial-control, to an historically unprecedented extent. (with the odd brave exception)

    I have no opinion on Woolwich etc., tho’ with the modern technologies of lying there should exist a reasonable doubt about *anything* that one reads about, or is shown on the telescreens, or even if you actually see-it, I agree it *might* be following the lead from the original “GLADIO” strategy-of-fear episodes. There certainly exists a
    bunker somewhere, probably Brussels (not the EU bunker but the atlanticists) where all world problems are treated with the “Regime Change” idiocy. …Iraq, Ukraine, Libya, Syria, Latin America and even Trumpland…. There certainly does seem to be a rolling tribe of troubadours who arrive just before a significant election, or referendum, and perform a “spectacular” – look at the recently electorally deposed Malaysian government whose spooks actually wrote a letter to Langley/Maryland asking for intervention as their side was about to lose. Was it delayed in the post? I’m sure sometimes innocent blood is spilled, as war is war and war is profit, seems to still
    apply, I don’t bother to analyse individual events, but someone should, surely an independent university somewhere is studying/documenting all of our current events, not all the mass-Sociology/Psychology departments are fully spook integrated,
    surely?

    For example: It is quite easy to scientifically prove bias, run all of Craig’s output through an AI/ML sentiment machine and it will tell you his underlying thoughts. Even a Wordle(word-cloud) can do that as a first approximation. You’ll find that he’s anti-Putin, which is fine by me, and pro-independence for many places, which is also fine. He may occasionally have a glass of something with some of the more rational members of UK intel, who do exist, and who are scared of their subverted colleagues, but still loyal – still looking to the pensh, or the inevitable Corbyn led inquiry, should he live that long.
    I guess that at least half of MI5 know what they should be doing, tho’ with even the Royal Fam going perpetually along with the stupid anti-Rusland great-game & exit & Trump, their orders of battle might be confused to say the least.

    As for the “controlled opposition” meme, well, look at the met special demonstration squads, there’s certainly a lot of UK form for infiltration (CPGB!) but I’m not aware of Craig having a white van and flashing the cash, etcetera; maybe, in the current environment , https://www.craigmurray.org.uk is as good as we are going to get!

  • Sharp Ears

    The speech from Boris Johnson today is being hyped up by the media. ‘eagerly anticipated’..etc

    His pal Gideon gives him a puff piece –
    Conservative Party Conference 2018 LIVE: Boris Johnson to give eagerly anticipated Brexit speech
    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/conservative-conference-live-boris-johnson-to-give-eagerly-anticipated-brexit-speech-a3950856.html

    The photo is of him running through a field, in reference to May’s admission of running through a wheat field. How funny. Not.

    The Tories who were given the heave ho by Theresa, such as Gideon, have long memories. They are ALL in IT together.

  • Jones

    with so many man-made disasters/wars some of which could have been avoided let’s spare a thought for the poor folks who have suffered terribly from the unavoidable natural disaster of the tsumani that struck Palu.

    • Mary Paul

      I have every sympathy with the victims of the Tsunami in Palu but are you aware that many of the early warning systems previously given to them by overseas donors are inoperative as they have simply not been maintained.

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