War With Iran 289


For 18 years, the Iranian nuclear programme has been one of the top 10 targeting objectives of the US intelligence services. In 2007 they first conducted a formal inter-agency review. It is done every year. This is not a minor process. A great deal of input is received from dozens of Washington stakeholders, led by the CIA.

The result has been the same every single year. Iran is not currently seeking to produce an nuclear weapon. Many people know that Tulsi Gabbard delivered this assessment in spring this year. Not many people realise that this was in no sense specific to Tulsi Gabbard and she was delivering the same assessment, through the same process, that Directors of National Intelligence under both Republican and Democrat administrations had given.

Nothing changed. The only thing that changed is Netanyahu’s attack on Iran. Trump appears able to get away with simply stating that he does not care what the intelligence agencies say. It is harder for Starmer to do that.

British and American armed forces are already in this war, shooting down Iranian missiles, refuelling Israeli bombers (alongside the Germans) and providing targeting information. Military supplies are shipped to Israel through RAF Akrotiri – which is a British sovereign colony on Cyprus – and Israeli bombers have certainly landed there in the last week; whether starting bombing runs from there, I cannot currently confirm.

There is no public opinion in the UK supporting British participation in an attack on Iran, despite massive and continual propaganda on all state and corporate media. I do not believe anybody informed solely by the mainstream media this last fortnight would have any idea that Israel possesses nuclear weapons, or that there is no evidence Iran was producing them.

The British government has a massive parliamentary majority – gained on just 31% of the vote – and a Conservative “opposition” even more keen to attack Iran than the crazed Zionists Starmer and Lammy. I do not see how they can be prevented from attacking Iran. But they will try hard to fix public opinion. It is therefore essential that MI6’s view, that Iran was not developing a nuclear weapon, is kept quiet.

When Blair produced a dossier of “intelligence” lies to justify the destruction of Iraq, he was fortunate in having Richard Dearlove as Head of MI6, who was not just the most right-wing ideologue ever to hold the position, but one of the most right-wing men anywhere in England. Dearlove believed the moral case for the war was more important than the truth about Iraqi WMD.

Blair also had Sir John Scarlett as Head of the Joint Intelligence Committee and next Head of MI6. Scarlett passionately believed that the case for advancing the career of John Scarlett was more important than the truth about Iraqi WMD.

It is worth noting – and a prime example of how the neoliberal world works – that the next head of MI6, Sir John Sawers, is now an executive of British Petroleum. That company controlled Iran for decades, installed the fake Pahlavi “Shah” in 1921 and engineered and financed the coup that ended democracy in Iran in 1953. The appalling dictatorship of the Shah after that led directly to the theocratic revolution.

BP desperately want Iran’s oil back, so ex MI6 Head Sawers has been all over the airwaves advocating war on Iran. Meanwhile it is not an accident that two days ago, a new Head of MI6 was chosen and installed. Starmer has found his Dearlove.

The appointment was made by David Lammy. Blaise Metreweli was chosen ahead of more obvious candidates, who had served longer in MI6, had more operational experience, and were better analysts or better managers. However Metreweli – who spent much of her career in the Middle East – is a fanatical Zionist. She worked closely with Israel on technologies for surveillance and assassination.

Metreweli developed projects with both Pegasus and Palantir and was intimately connected to Israel’s use of new forms of attack in Lebanon and Iran. She was strongly endorsed to Lammy by Mossad as the next MI6 head. MI6 and the FCDO are inextricably connected. They work literally cheek by jowl in Embassies around the world, and MI6 HQ staff in London have cover jobs in the FCDO.

FCDO officials are extremely unhappy with the UK’s cooperation in Genocide in Gaza, with hundreds of them having been told by Lammy to shut up or resign. There is consternation at Mossad having designated the next Head of MI6. I asked my contact – a senior FCDO figure – whether Metreweli had involvement in the pager attacks in Lebanon. The reply was “Not 100% sure, but probably yes.”

Expect an imminent announcement that MI6 has determined that Iran was indeed about to produce a nuclear bomb.

The government appears to be justifying its current military involvement as the need to defend an “ally”, Israel. Emily Thornberry, a senior government MP and a lawyer, stated last night on BBC Newsnight that the legal right to take military action rested on our “right to defend our friends”. She did not use the word “ally”, and there is no such right as Thornberry posited.

Starmer and Lammy both frequently call Israel an “ally” but there is no public treaty of alliance available. There is a secret UK/Israel Defence Co-Operation Agreement of 2020. It is not known whether this amounts to a treaty of mutual defence.

Such treaties are supposed to be public and registered, not least because part of the alleged purpose is deterrence. You can read all the founding treaties of NATO.

The notion that the UK may go to war on the basis of a Treaty of Alliance that is secret from the British people, is so morally abhorrent it ought not to be able to be mooted, let alone acted upon. But democracy is dead in the UK, to the extent that people have forgotten its meaning.

Much worse, of course, is that this is not a case of mutual defence but of mutual offence. It was Israel that attacked Iran.

In standing alongside Israel, as in standing alongside Ukraine, the UK is condoning terrorist tactics such as the use of car bombs by both Ukrainian and Iranian “allies”. On what moral ground therefore does the UK stand in condemning the use of car bombs on the streets of London, when it supports our “allies” in their use?

You may recall that I recently published two posts focusing on remarkable fake terrorism plot narratives being heavily promoted by the UK security services in the mainstream media. Both revolved around alleged actions against Iran International, an extraordinary Saudi- and CIA-funded fake media organisation that promotes the return of the Pahlavi Shah in alliance with Israel and Iranian Sunnis.

From the Assange campaign, I have contacts on the libertarian side of MAGA that might surprise you, some actually in the Administration. I am told that the endgame being proposed in Washington by Israel and Saudi Arabia is Iranian regime change with the return of the Shah and a Sunni Prime Minister.

Remember there was no war with Iran yet, at the time I wrote those two articles about the remarkable happenings involving the security services and Iran International. This from my first article:

The connections all now click perfectly into place.

The UK has dived deep into the depths of immorality in which Zionism thrives. The consequences will be appalling.

 

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289 thoughts on “War With Iran

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  • JK redux

    A nice summary of Trump’s Dalai Lama (sic) seen online:

    “Trump is conflicted by some traps he laid for himself. He has been indulgent to both Putin and Netanyahu … never realising, it seems, that Putin and Natanyahu might one day be on different sides. Now, he has to disappoint one of them.”

    • Brian Red

      They were on the same side helping put Trump into the White House in 2016 (successful), then it was Russia alone with Le Pen (unsuccessful), then in 2020 neither of them bothered much about psywar in the US election, and in 2024 it was the Zionists only (successful). The Zionists hate Russia, but they hate everyone who isn’t Jewish, so the deep hatred of Russia isn’t always a main factor. What may be the position now (and I hope it isn’t) is that Russia is out of the picture. It seems a very long time ago now that they defeated Georgia and helped in Syria. Someone somewhere needs to carry put a successful surprise against the Zionists and their main North American proxy.

      Don’t ever forget the internet is part of the media. The level of mass participation doesn’t alter that.

  • Republicofscotland

    The puppet shah is being briefed – to see if he’ll take over the running of Iran.

    “Fox News confirms that US Congress leaders are now in direct talks with Exiled Crown Prince of Iran Reza Pahlavi and representatives of various Pro-Monarchy Iranian group”

    • Goose

      They’ll bomb Iran’s non-military infrastructure into ruins,then the CIA will gather a group of their assets to make it look like he’s a popular returning figure. They don’t give a shit about the people of Iran or democracy. It’s just selfish self-interest. Pure evil, in the service of Israel.

      • Brian Red

        They can throw dollar bills from a tank and make it look as though the population are joyously welcoming them or their shah, and plaster the photo all over the front pages in the western MSM without mentioning the dollar bills. That’s what they did in Kabul. Their f*ckwitted populations (including journalists) will only notice what they’re told to notice by their higher ups in society.

      • Goose

        The way I see it…

        The IRGC just need to keep this US neocon-backed, Israeli sponsored, illegitimate usurper out of power, to win. Can you imagine how compromised he is with these patrons?

        SAVAK, the Stasi-esque secret police of the Pahlavi family, were universally despised, so it’s not an easy sell for US and UK intel agencies tasked with foisting this puppet on the people of Iran.

        Though, that said, look at Egypt’s el Sisi – deeply unpopular and entirely dependent on the US to prop up his despotic rule. It is possible.

        • Goose

          There is no guarantee air power can change the Iranian govt. Netanyahu may have screwed up, as former Israeli leaders have been saying over the course of the last few days.

          The situation is quite different from the Iraq ground invasion followed by the establishing of the “Green Zone” in Baghdad, also known as the International Zone, a heavily fortified area that served as the seat of the Iraqi government and housed several foreign embassies.

          Delta Force, UKSF orr Israeli special forces would have to fly Reza in to Tehran, very, very risky if the IRGC are prepared.

  • Republicofscotland

    Last but not least.

    Is this the green light, to the attack on Iran – about to be rubber stamped by Trump.

    “The New York Times reports that President Trump will return to the White House over the weekend on Saturday evening, and hold two National Security Council meetings. Both will be focused on Iran”

    • Jack

      What a chump he is, he spoke out against unnecessary wars for years and even in his inaugural speech, delivered not even a 6 months ago , he the said that he wanted to be remembered as a “peacemaker”, and now is is about to set off a conflagration in the Middle East, getting his “own war”, a war of choice, he took the bait, that Netanyahu laid out, directly, what a gullible fool.

      My proudest legacy will be that of a peacemaker and unifier. That’s what I want to be: a peacemaker and a unifier.
      https://www.whitehouse.gov/remarks/2025/01/the-inaugural-address/

      Trump even excluding his own top political/military brass:
      Pentagon and US intel chiefs sidelined from Iran‑Israel discussions – media
      President Donald Trump is reportedly relying on a small group of lower-profile aides as he weighs military intervention

      https://swentr.site/news/619904-trump-gabbard-hegseth-iran/

  • Jack

    International law is dead and now buried for good. It was killed off by the collective west that for 3 years whined about Russia’s “full scale invasion of Ukraine”, which, even if I do not support, clearly show how careful Russia actually is vs Israel conduct. Have Russia even killed any high ranking military rep.? And here we have Israel bombing hospitals, media-centers, civilian/apartment-bombings, conducting assassination after assassination of high-level Iranian military command like it is something normal and there is not zero reaction but applaud and cheering from the west! What a disgusting pack of people. Fifth columnists all over.
    Their normalization of war is so heinous too. All these hawkish european politicians would take the first plane out of europe in case of war. Running off like rats, just like Netanyahu ran off to Greece when he launched his attack on Iran, using his people as cannon-fodder.

    The bets are against Iran, there is no denial in that, Israel is the stronger force but I am impressed that Iran still manage to strike some critical targets inside of Israel. If they are going to suffer further on, they certainly showed off courage in their acts past days. Israel is not that strong as people seems to think, even though they have higher quality arms/tech plus an obsession to infiltrate and create chaos and terrorize nations, nations like Iran could still put up a descent fight. Iran certainly do not let themselves to be humiliated like the collective Arab and Islamic world. And after Iran the Arab world is the next target for Israel, I am sure the israelis have already infiltrated the arab regimes. Oh the Arabs better believe it, Israel is coming for them too.
    I really hope Iran have some missiles left though because I fear the worst is yet to come with the announcement of US preparations. And also, by intentional law and by west/Israel’s own statement past week, Iran now have the right to strike US pre-emptively.

    A final point, interesting and good that so many to the right/libertarians are protesting against the american involvement of the war, for whatever it is worth, these people have considerable followers/impact to influence the narrative: Tucker Carlson, Owen Shroyer, Alex Jones, Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Jackson Hinkle, Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes, Joe Rogan etc

    MAGA is dead now, Trump was obviously one of the swamper himself. His pro-israel lobbyists is the ones setting the policy:
    Miriam Adelson gives $100 million to Trump campaign, making good on reported pledge
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/miriam-adelson-gives-100-million-to-trump-campaign-making-good-on-reported-pledge/

    • Goose

      The Sunni Gulf monarchies are totally two-faced; privately fully supportive of action against Iran, whilst publicly condemning Israel. That initial plan Iran had to destroy oil & gas infrastructure in the entire region if they were attacked was the smartest plan they had. UAE, Bahrain(Shia majority , Sunni minority King), Qatar and KSA were terrified. It’s the only way westerners would feel the consequences of a war we’ve allowed our lawless, rogue state, genocidal friend, Israel, to start.

      • Jack

        Yes I remember back in 2010 when Wikileaks exposed what arab leaders really thought about Iran, it was quite an eye opener how disingenuous this clientele really is. Quite tragic when one think about it, sunni regimes let outsides forces (US/Israel) make them hate fellow muslims/shiites while a sunni+shia ‘team’ could be such a strong unified force.

        2010: “Cut off head of snake” Saudis told U.S. on Iran
        https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us-politics/cut-off-head-of-snake-saudis-told-us-on-iran-idUSTRE6AS02B/

        • Goose

          I’ve always thought Iran is more sinned against than sinning.

          The theocratic regime isn’t the almost cartoony caricature of seething pure hate the West’s media likes to present it as. KSA is far stricter than Iran in terms of an enforced religious belief. Iran does have draconian sentencing and homosexuality is illegal, and like China they don’t take kindly to online criticism. But life resembles the modern West in many ways. There are wealthy upmarket areas, people go skiing in the Alborz and Zagros mountain ranges and kids follow fashion. Iranians have a flare for design and complex geometric shapes and patterns feature prominently in architecture and design. A far friendlier place than presented and far more relaxed than KSA, for example. Could it be better, probably, but so could we, and nobody is forcing regime change on us.

          I also think the idea being put about by MI6, that Iran could have sleeper cells waiting to detonate dirty bombs in western capitals, is complete BS. The Iranian clerics really aren’t that kind of regime. That’s the sort of thing you could expect from Ukraine though, in Moscow, if Russia were ever stupid enough to use nukes on Kyiv.

          • Goose

            The thought of an ignorant, know-nothing doofus like Trump, ordering the destruction through bombing, of ancient sites and buildings; artifacts that date back thousands of years, sickens me. Archaeologists the world over will be utterly outraged if the Americans don’t leave Iran’s important historical sites intact.

            Trump’s trashy idea of high culture is probably a gold-plated toilet.

          • Jack

            Yes obviously disinformation to instill fear in the population to in turn get the popuation on board to bomb Iran. So obvious. It is the same fearmongering formula used time and time again, in 2001 Philip Knightly wrote an article on this topic that could have been written today:
            The disinformation campaign
            Western media follow a depressingly familiar formula when it comes to the preparation of a nation for conflict

            https://www.theguardian.com/education/2001/oct/04/socialsciences.highereducation

            Who do not remember the bogus fearmongering claim that Saddam could attack us within “minutes”?
            Saddam could blow us up in 45 minutes – Blair
            https://iol.co.za/news/2002-09-24-saddam-could-blow-us-up-in-45-minutes-blair/

            Yes indeed, the iranian people seems very kind and compassionate and Iran is a real nation with a rich, genuine culture and with a rich scientific and intellectual base. These gulf monarchies on the other hand…well, I have no words to be honest.
            There are for example hundreds of thousands of christians inside Iran – and enjoy living there, they are respected (to a way greater extent westerners might believe).
            In Israel, there are also christians, but they are constantly harassed, even spat at. Ben-Gvir, minister in the israeli government even said that this spitting against christians is a “jewish tradition” and questioned why people are so upset about it.
            Video: Israeli minister Ben-Gvir defends ‘spitting on Christians’ in Jerusalem as old Jewish ‘tradition”
            https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FT8COKNaDJE

            Such callous nonsense. And this is the same government christan zionists in the west back?! Could you imagine a minister from Iran saying ‘oh it is muslim tradition to spit at christians, deal with it’.

          • JK redux

            Goose
            June 21, 2025 at 20:18

            What’s all this shite “That’s the sort of thing you could expect from Ukraine though, in Moscow, if Russia were ever stupid enough to use nukes on Kyiv.”

            So if “Russia were ever stupid enough to use nukes on Kyiv” what do you suggest that the Ukrainian Government should do?

          • Goose

            JK redux

            I think we’re seeing that the Ukrainians are ruthless with all the assassinations in Moscow of senior Russian military personnel, weapons scientists – even pro-war journalists and TV presenters are seen as fair game. Straight out of the Israeli playbook. Maybe with MI6 /CIA help? I can’t imagine Iran doing that here, they got caught flat-footed by Israel with the recent attack.

            And, as I stated, I sincerely hope Russia never use such horrible indiscriminate weapons. But I do think that Ukraine, aided by MI6/CIA will have plans in place for that eventuality, because they are equally ruthless, as we’ve seen in Syria and elsewhere.

          • Pears Morgaine

            The concept of a dirty bomb has been around for decades but none has ever been used. some physicists think the idea is unworkable especially as non-state actors would have difficulty acquiring and handling enough radioactive material of sufficient strength.

          • Stevie Boy

            “So if “Russia were ever stupid enough to use nukes on Kyiv” what do you suggest that the Ukrainian Government should do?”
            Boom. Melt into a pile of ashes, and good fucking riddance to them.

          • Goose

            @Pears Morgaine

            Do you think a determined nation state couldn’t create one?

            Suitcase nukes were a real thing.

            Possibly related : In the last few days the U.S. Air Force has launched a WC-135R Constant Phoenix aircraft, nicknamed the “nuclear sniffer”.

            Something made with cobalt and iodine could render a large urban area uninhabitable. Such a bomb forms the plot basis for the Metro video game series.

            From a piece Al Jazeera carried : A dirty bomb is really easy to make,” said Scott Roecker, vice president for the nuclear materials security programme at The Nuclear Threat Initiative, a non-profit organisation based in Washington.

            “It’s a crude device.”

          • Bayard

            “What’s all this shite “That’s the sort of thing you could expect from Ukraine though, in Moscow, if Russia were ever stupid enough to use nukes on Kyiv.”

            Have to agree with you there: it doesn’t need a nuclear strike on Kiev to get the Ukranians to use a dirty bomb, they are quite capable of doing that anyway.

            “non-state actors would have difficulty acquiring and handling enough radioactive material of sufficient strength.”

            Aye, there’s the rub, the means, not the motive, although the Ukraine government is not a “non-state actor”.

    • Brian Red

      Yes, fifth columnists – and remember what happened after that stage: Madrid fell and there was no more need for a fifth column.

      Some rightwing British analysts view Trump as a Russian asset while at the same time applauding his support for the Zionist entity and the destruction it wreaks. Putin as a fellow asset of Jewish power along with his pal Trump might be more accurate, given the lack of Russian response to the US attack on Iran. What is the point of Russia having nukes if they let the US behave in this way?

    • Brian Red

      “Iran certainly do not let themselves to be humiliated like the collective Arab and Islamic world”

      And like the West and Russia.

    • Alyson

      Nuclear deterrent was a phrase. You would not attack a country that had nukes. Non proliferation treaties were effective for keeping the peace for 50 years. Treaties were defined honestly following diplomatic negotiations. Rule of Law was respected. Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) was the alternative.

      If the US intervenes the Houthis will resume targeting US shipping. They had agreed to stop, following negotiations.

    • Goose

      Basic nuclear weapons are only good for preventing a country being invaded. Before the Iraq invasion in 2003, around 100,000 US troops were assembled in Kuwait. That obviously couldn’t have happened had Saddam had nukes.

      They don’t necessarily protect you from a US air campaign though, unless you’ve got delivery systems that pose a credible threat to the US mainland.

      • Goose

        Iran is too big and too populous to invade.

        That is Iran’s big advantage over the US and Israel. If (big if) they can stay united and don’t fight among themselves – as US neocons and Israel want them to do – they can win. The US would need 2 million troops and take tens of thousands of casualties if they invaded. Many US politicians may think more of Israeli citizens than their own US electorates, but that’d be a bridge too far even for them.

        • Goose

          We all know how averse the US public has become to ‘boots on the ground’ , politicians get nervous even saying those words.

          The US public, like the British public, are sick of our elite’s ‘ wars of choice’ in faraway lands; wars that make little sense, in terms of our domestic safety and leave the countries we invade/occupy in a worse state than before we went in e.g. Afghanistan. The only boots on the ground they’d tolerate are those defending our soil.

          • Goose

            @Brian Red

            The British public will support anything they’re told.

            Initially perhaps, but not if sustaining heavy casualties in a war few can make sense of from a national security perspective. Vietnam basically destroyed US citizens’ faith in the judgement of politicians. And they’ve never recovered the trust they had prior.

            This is why the US DoD and UK MOD have been investing heavily in remote warfare. Most countries find the loss of young people(mostly men) in wars intolerable, unless there is a genuine, indisputable threat to the mainland.

          • Goose

            @Stevie Boy

            Israel’s loyalty is to the US though. Israel has been helping Ukraine — all the weaponry confiscated from Hezbollah stockpiles in S. Lebanon were sent by Israel to Ukraine by the Israeli govt – did you know that, does Putin know that I wonder?

            https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/01/26/israel-sends-weapons-captured-from-lebanon-to-ukraine/

            It was reported by various media outlets.

            I think Netanyahu is just doing enough to keep Russia on side, basically Putin is being played. Netanyahu knows Russia could cause lots of problems in the region and potentially even in Israel, if they turned belligerent.

    • Steve Hayes

      It’s always been a puzzle why Iran would put so much money and effort into enriching uranium far beyond the level needed for civil power when plutonium is the easier route to a weapon. But uranium has a far smaller radiation emission which would be very handy for weapons intended to be smuggled. Hmm?

  • Dissonant Notes

    Great article!

    There was a military agreement signed in Dec 2020.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20201207092019/https://www.bicom.org.uk/news/uk-and-israel-sign-military-agreement/

    The countries consider themselves strategic partners
    https://www.cufi.org.uk/news/uk-israel-hold-first-national-security-meeting-in-new-strategic-partnership/

    As do London and Riyadh. The UK has similar secret Memorandum’s of Understanding with the Saudis.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-government-attempting-to-keep-details-of-secret-security-pact-with-saudi-arabia-hidden-from-public-a6783376.html

    One shouldn’t underrate the role of the British in guiding the Saudi attack on Yemen and prolonging the conflict that caused the then world’s worst humanitarian crisis

  • Brian Red

    Tell you what – it’s time the British regime was told to f*** off out of Cyprus.

    Akrotiri and Dhekelia are the closest Mediterranean equivalents to Guantanamo.

    If the capability of the Zionists’ Unit 8200 was badly hit by the Iranian strike on Glilot near Tel Aviv, it could be that the Zionists will expect more help from GCHQ on Cyprus than they were getting already.

  • Crispa

    I think Trump’s days as President are numbered as he has got himself into a catch – 22 situation which will result in a lose – lose outcome, when his business brain always tell him he must win – win. If he does not actively aid Israel he will lose the support of the all powerful Israeli lobby and his neo – con fanatics like Graham and McConnell. If he goes ahead which is the more likely on the pretext of eviscerating Iran’s nuclear capabilities he will lose mass support in the USA and internationally as well as the reputational damage resulting from his wanting to appear as a man of peace. After all Pakistan with I suspect more than a sense of irony has just nominated him for a Nobel Peace Prize for his mediation in the India – Pakistan conflict. His Democrat rivals have been noticeably quiet these past few months but will use the opportunity to step up their opposition. JD Vance who does not have a hawkish reputation has gone quiet although staying in the wings. Tulsi Gabbard despite a huge Trump snub is hanging in. There are plenty of people who would be happy to see Trump removed from office either by impeachment or being taken out. He might just squeeze by if he takes a diplomatic path but that is far from his nature. No one will mourn if Pride suffers a fall nor should we be surprised if JD Vance emerges from the shadows like Lyndon Johnson and Gerald Ford.

    • Brian Red

      Trump will do whatever the Zionists tell him, and they won’t feel any compulsion to explain to him the real reason for what it is. The reason could be something completely different from what they do tell him, and this could become crystal clear five minutes after he’s done it.

      Stitchups are common in international relations, e.g. Ukraine swinging east then suddenly west, Australia being poised to sign a deal with France and then signing one with the US and Britain.

      The background is the Netanyahu doctrine, which looks as though it’s coming to an end. Those who imposed it nearly 40 years ago will know what they’re intending to replace it with. It won’t just be oh goody, Fordow is destroyed, a shah is back in the palace, let’s all sign lots of contracts.

      If they decide it’s in their interests, the Zionists will remove Trump from office.
      If he’s about to say something about them they don’t want, they’ll kill him. They probably run the “security” at many of the places he goes to already.
      Being near the 50-50 mark of being booted out or remaining in place is itself a valuable asset, as was clear during Clinton-Lewinsky.

      PS Re. the Nobel peace prize, any member of a national assembly can nominate someone. Gaza MPs in the Westminster parliament – are you listening?

      • Lysias

        If they kill Trump, I think they’ll disguise the fact that it’s murder. Say, poison him in a way that imitates a heart attack.

    • Yalt

      A typical outcome of Trump’s tariff/trade talks has been to announce victory when the other side agrees to abide by some agreement that was already in place (this latter part would be “fake news” if mentioned, of course).

      Extrapolating, my expectation is that he’ll announce his B2 operation a success: Iran no longer has nuclear missile capability. That will be hard to disprove since they probably didn’t have any in the first place.

      Didn’t we go through something like this during Trump I: making a big noise blowing up a Syrian building but notifying everyone in advance so the building would be empty and Russia wouldn’t be provoked?

      Or maybe this is just hopeful thinking and I’m always going to remember I was sitting on a park lawn eating jollof rice when WW3 broke out.

    • Yalt

      ” If he goes ahead which is the more likely on the pretext of eviscerating Iran’s nuclear capabilities he will lose mass support in the USA”

      I think this is a serious misreading of American politics. There is nothing quite so titillating to the typical American, on either side of the supposed R/D divide, as the site of collapsed buildings full of dead people. There’ll be general agreement that Trump is, for the first time, truly behaving Presidentially. I’m guessing his support has increased by 10 points or so just in the last hour, and it’ll only get worse as we all rally around our brave men and women fighting for our freedom etc. etc. What’s worse, that support will translate to support for the equally brave men and women fighting domestic enemies in the streets of LA. Things are about to get ugly here, I suspect.

      • Mike T

        “Every American is a target” reports the entirely neutral NDTV from India, owned by Adani who manufacture (with Elbit) Hermes drones for the IDF.

        This is just the beginning.

    • zoot

      A completely unprovoked, illegal attack on a sovereign nation.

      The very thing you claim to abhor most and why, according to you, put Russia beyond the pale of civilised nations.

      Your firmest principle, Stated endlessly and at every opportunity.

      Does it apply to the United States and its supporting vassalsr?

    • Alyson

      “Israeli officials have told the Trump administration they do not want to wait two weeks for Iran to reach a deal to dismantle key parts of its nuclear program and Israel could act alone before the deadline is up, two sources say, amid a continuing debate on Trump’s team about whether the US should get involved.
      The two sources familiar with the matter say Israel has communicated its concerns to Trump administration officials on Thursday in what they described as a tense phone call.
      The Israeli officials say they do not want to wait the two weeks that US President Donald Trump presented on Thursday as a deadline for deciding whether the US will get involved in the Israel-Iran war, say the sources, who speak on condition of anonymity. The Israeli participants on the call included Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Israel Katz and military chief Eyal Zamir, according to a security source.
      The Israelis believe they have a limited window of opportunity to move against the deeply buried site at Fordo, the crown jewel of Iran’s nuclear program, say the sources. The United States is the only country with the bunker-busting bombs powerful enough to reach the facility, which is dug into the side of a mountain.
      A person in Washington familiar with the matter says Israel has communicated to the US administration that it believes Trump’s window of up to two weeks is too long and that more urgent action is needed. The person doesn’t say whether the Israelis made that point during the high-level call.
      During the call, Vice President JD Vance pushed back, saying the United States shouldn’t be directly involved and suggesting that the Israelis were going to drag the country into war, say the sources. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth also participated in the call, says a security source. Reuters couldn’t determine who else took part in the call.
      Publicly, Netanyahu has not ruled out Israel attacking Fordo alone, though officials have not provided any details on how that would be achieved.
      Four sources say it is now increasingly likely that Israel will launch a solo military operation. Israeli air superiority over much of Iran makes an operation more feasible, though still risky, say two of the sources.
      The Israelis feel they have the momentum and have limited time given the costs of the war, one source adds.
      “I don’t see them waiting much longer,” says the source.
      It isn’t clear whether such an operation would involve bombing, ground forces, or both. Two of the sources say that rather than attempting to destroy the entire site, Israel could instead do significant damage to it.
      That could mean focusing on destroying what is inside the site rather than the site itself, says one of the sources, declining to elaborate.”

      ToI 9 hours ago

      • Stevie Boy

        With all the recent noise and threats regarding these sites it was a common sense action to evacuate them and move all the enriched materials elsewhere. This is exactly what Iran has done.
        Any military planner would have foreseen this. So, was the bombing operation just an expensive PR exercise to satisfy the genociders and allow Trump to bluster and claim his prize from Adelson ?
        Iran’s likely responses are going to be bad for everyone but particularly for the USA.
        Iran won’t be defeated unless there is a complete capitulation within or a ground force invasion from outside. I don’t see either of those occurring. So, it’s probably going to be a case of how much airborne destruction the west can cause before they lose interest.

          • Melrose

            Just like in the popular quote, some people keep looking at the finger, that is pointing at the moon.
            In line with his usual practice, the Donald has done exactly the opposite of what he previously had said.
            No 2-week final deadline before the strike. Even his last minute return to DC was obviously part of his bluff, under the excuse of “National Security meetings”.
            But it works. Many suckers even fantasize him giving advance warning to those he was bombing.
            Well, keep dreaming!

  • Melrose

    “ The consequences will be appalling.” wrote Craig.
    And also EVERLASTING, as announced by the Supreme Leader.
    Probably meaning there will be little immediate retaliation against the US bombing squadrons. Who swiftly returned to their bases, thanks to the numerous prepositioned refueling tankers.
    In the long run, things may become totally different in the Middle East and West Asia for the West and the US. Iran may feign to surrender if there’s no other option, but will certainly somehow find a way to get a revenge.
    Meanwhile, it will be interesting to see whether Putin and Xi offer more than lip service to their former ally and trade partner in Tehran…

  • Republicofscotland

    I fully expect Iran – to tell the IAEA to take a hike, and for Iran to ditch the JCPOA negotiations.

    Another way of saying f&ck-you America and Israel, and f*ck you too, at the IAEA.

    ” Following the U.S. strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities, the Iranian Atomic Energy Agency has issued the following announcements:

    Iran will significantly increase enriched uranium production by activating a new enrichment facility at a secure and previously prepared location;

    The first-generation IR-1 centrifuges at the underground Fordow facility will be replaced with advanced IR-6 centrifuges;

    Iran will substantially reduce its cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency and may expel IAEA inspectors”

  • Republicofscotland

    A couple of points.

    Russia’s Medvedev – is not a happy bunny with regards to the US strike in Iran

    “What did the Americans achieve with their night strike on three points in Iran? The critical infrastructure of the nuclear cycle, apparently, was not damaged or was damaged insignificantly

    ‘There are countries ready to transfer nuclear weapons to Iran”

    Propaganda or the truth, hopefully its the latter.

    “Representative of Qom Province:

    ‘The underground facilities of Fordow nuclear site has not been damaged, the damage is above ground'”

    https://nitter.poast.org/IranObserver0/status/1936628153621029041#m

    The attack, according to this.

    “US B-2A bombers dropped 12 GBU-57 bunker-buster bombs on the Fordow facility, while another bomber dropped two bombs on Natanz.

    Thirty Tomahawk cruise missiles were also launched from a US submarine, targeting sites in Natanz and Isfahan as part of a coordinated attack on nuclear facilities”

    https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1936704092769747173#m

    WTF!

    ” Pakistan ‘condemns’ US strikes on Iranian Nuclear sites, After nominating Trump for Nobel prize”

    • Melrose

      If Medvedev is crossed with America, it probably means Russia has no intention to provide any significant assistance to Iran.
      Medvedev and Putin always play the “bad cop/good cop” routine…

      • Crispa

        Perhaps Putin thinks that Iran is quite capable of fighting its own battle with a bit of behind the scenes help with intelligence, technical support if needed etc. No need then to turn the fire back on Russia.

      • Bayard

        Putin has said that Iran hasn’t asked for any help. If you think that’s bollocks, Iran hasn’t said it either.

          • Bayard

            No, true friends offer to help before you even ask. People who rush in and do things on the basis of what they think you need without consulting you are a complete pain in the arse.
            “Why did you shoot my dog, I loved that dog?”
            “Sorry, I thought it was attacking you”

  • Brian Red

    So Iran said it would hit US bases in the region if the US attacked Iran, the US then attacked Iran, and Iran hasn’t yet hit any US bases? This isn’t looking good.

    • Republicofscotland

      Brian Red

      Brian.

      Iran has plenty of time to strike back – Israel and the US (via its ME bases will be on high alert right now) so first Iran must publicly condemn the attacks – let everyone know the US/Israeli attacks are illegal.

      • Brian Red

        Let’s hope so. Much of the Arab street will be supportive of Iran, and surely there must be some weak points at which the royalist Arab kleptocracies can be made to lose their stability.

      • Goose

        Iran should signal its intention to leave the NPT, citing the fact it offers zero upsides in terms of security guarantees and plenty of downsides with Grossi’s leaks allowing targeted assassinations.
        =====

        The Guardian aren’t allowing comments, how typical. I don’t comment there anyway mind, due to it being very heavily moderated.

      • Bayard

        The consequences of every action are everlasting. Once you change the world, even in the smallest of ways, it can never be changed back to exactly how it was before, the ramifications are too great.

    • Melrose

      Yet, In guise of a warm-up, Iran launched its fearsome hyper ballistic missile this morning for the first time.
      And effectively: half a dozen homes in a Tel Aviv suburb have been very badly damaged.
      No doubt it will go crescendo. The Donald probably doesn’t realize the escalation risk in the conflict he has initiated last night.
      PS certainly as a tribute to his friend Vladimir, the Donald never uses the word “war” with regards to what he started. But obviously “Special Military Operation”. You couldn’t make this up…

    • Steve Hayes

      If the Iranians are sensible or well advised, they won’t follow through on their threats. After all, they are winning. I noticed the report this morning of 27 missiles launched at Israel made no mention of any being intercepted. Probably because if any were, it was an embarrassingly small number and they’re hoping people won’t notice the omission amid all the sound and fury. If Iran can continue making Israeli cities miserable and feeling unsafe, Israel’s whole raison d’être fades away and the fate of South African apartheid looms.

  • Goose

    Hilarious how FS Lammy, says it’s now time for Iran to return to negotiations. As if Trump hasn’t just, literally and figuratively, blown them up. Yesterday, Lammy tweeted, that Iran faced a choice, more an ultimatum really, but crucially, he said they had time. Clearly Lammy and the Europeans weren’t in the loop.

    The NPT is supposed to guarantee those who’ve signed it protection from this sort of action in return for cooperation with the IAEA. The IAEA inspections are intrusive and burdensome, lots of paperwork. Why on earth should Iran persist with that facade now? Dumping the NPT and opting for Israel’s opaque status should be a no-brainer. The NPT isn’t fit for purpose after this.

  • MR MARK CUTTS

    The Genius Trump has just forced Iran to get Nukes or make Nukes.

    Other Arab States will wish to do the same and that ends The Nuclear Proliferation Treaties.

    The US – as usual – is playing fast and loose with International laws.

    I saw Laura Kuensberg warming the British Public up for supposed Terrorist Attacks from Iran.

    That’s her job done for The State Broadcaster who’s paying her wages.

    p.s The Fordaw Facliity was not ‘ obliterated ‘ – I’ve seen bigger plumes of smoke from one Bonfire on November the 5th.

    The other two were hit much harder from the looks of it.

    • Goose

      We’ve got Farage cheering this on
      Starmer fully in support
      Badenoch cheering this on

      And likely a majority of the public against. Something very, very wrong with UK politics.

      • zoot

        All three devoted Zionists yet none of them was talking about Iran and nuclear weapons a month ago.

        Literally nobody in British politics and media was.

        All of a sudden it’s a civilisational threat.

        • Goose

          As Craig mentioned, the fact that Israel has nukes is never raised. There must be a secret media-wide agreement in place that prevents any journalist posing a simple question to ministers of : Why is it ok for Israel to have these weapons?

          They’d probably say, because Israel behaves responsibly. But it patently doesn’t. Were you living in Iran you’d have far more reason to fear Israel, than vice versa. Israel started this war by bombing over 100 major targets in Iran, That’s not the action of a state that is fearful or intimidated.

  • pete

    It seems we have been sold a war with Iran, due to imaginary weapons of mass destruction, weapons that Hans Blix does not believe exist, he didn’t believe they existed in the war with Iran and he has said so again with the conflict in Iraq. Normally we might expect to help a country that is not a belligerent, nor an occupier of other peoples territory and not involved in the extermination of indigenous people, but not in this case.

    Luckily we’ve learned much from the last escapade in Iraq. The hated warmonger, Bliar, is safely locked up in a maximum security facility, free to pursue his global fantasies and where he can do no more damage. Nobody will be fooled again by bogus chemical or other weapons allegations.

    In the case of Israel we have a new country set up due to a story in an old book and a promise from a mythical being made to a small tribe of religious fundamentalists. Their remote European ancestors have made settlements in a patch of land by the sea in the Mediterranean and want more land.

    The case for following a myth was made years ago by Georges Sorel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Sorel It is no more credible now than is was then, depending as it does on human credibility and it’s contempt for actual evidence. Yet here we are again, only this time the damage is likely to be much more serious. The fact of indulging the paranoid Zionist fantasies point to a failure of the democratic process at a deep level. It is not too late to declare that the emperor is seriously deluded and need to be replaced and the dangers of parliamentary democracy reformed to meet 21st century requirement.

  • Goose

    Sections of western society, ill-served by our lying press, believe Iran craved the bomb, but didn’t have the ingenuity or know-how to develop them. Nothing could be further from the truth. The main obstacle in Iran was always clerical opposition : Ali Khamenei believed nuclear weapons an abomination; sinful! If his fatwa, or religious edict, is now lifted and Iran withdraws from the NPT – as Simon Tisdall points out in his piece – they are more likely to acquire them. Then how on earth is Israel safer?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/22/donald-trump-usa-iran-israel-war-bombing

    • Melrose

      This is like the final stage before the flames of Hell.
      If even on this blog we cannot avoid being exposed to and soiled by quotes or links from the hated MSM, especially the Guardian (of what?), then no place is longer safe anymore.
      What you need then is a good shot (of Scotch whisky)!

      • Goose

        @Melrose

        I get that ‘shun at all costs’ take. But like the broken clock analogy, even the journos you often disagree with are correct occasionally.

        It’s worth reading pro-Zionist propaganda in the Telegraph, for instance, to understand how warped the perspectives of leading pro-Israel fanatics have become. Some of these people hold views about Iranians and Gazans, that are little better than those of the Nazi regime that once wished to eradicate their relatives.

        • Melrose

          I don’t easily follow your thoughts. My bad.
          A final word. Contrary to what most commenters initially presumed, the American B2 bombers FLEW EASTWARD OVER THE ATLANTIC AND NOT WESTWARD OVER GUAM AND DIEGO GARCIA.
          Very successful disinformation campaign, of which several posters here have been the gullible accomplices.
          Remember the tankers saga?

          • Goose

            Interesting info. I was wondering about their route and airspace overflight problems. It made no sense and would’ve caused diplomatic issues with Iran’s neighbours had initial reports been true.

          • Brian Red

            They flew over the Atlantic, then the Mediterranean, Occupied Palestine, NATO friend Jordan, and Iraq.

    • Yalt

      Who cares about Israel’s safety? We’re one step closer to the Rapture!

      I suspect the importance of Apocalypse in US society and politics is difficult to grasp from outside. It’s always been an important component of the US/Israel relationship; even more so under the current administration.

        • Yalt

          “God says he will lay the land of the Arabs waste and it will be desolate. This may seem like a severe punishment, but … the terms of the covenant must be carried out to the letter.”

          “Genocide, in short, becomes the ultimate means of prophetic fulfillment.”

          “Dispensationalist dogma also foretells the mass slaughter of Jews by the Antichrist and the conversion of the surviving remnant to Christianity.”

          Tens of millions of Americans have apocalyptic Biblical prophecy at the core of their belief structure. They don’t all share this particular interpretation of the prophecies but enough do to make it a major historical force, when it happens to align with the more mundane purposes of the empire.

    • M.J.

      Quite.
      What’s more, IAEA said that there was no increase in off-site radiation levels. That is consistent with the Iranians’ saying that nuclear material weren’t there, because they had already moved it.
      America’s raid on Iran using its most powerful weapons short of atomic devices evidently failed.
      However I’ve been surprised at Iran’s apparent lack of adequate air defenses against Israeli as well as American fighter jets. Compare that to the Serbs who shot down an American plane in 1999 (an F117 Nighthawk stealth fighter) and then held up mocking posters saying ‘Sorry, we didn’t know it was invisible.’
      What will be Iran’s response? The Supreme Leader didn’t sound like he had any inclination to surrender.

  • dearieme

    “I do not like war. It is costly and the outcome uncertain” … Queen Elizabeth I of England.

    ‘Bomb the bastards’: President Everyone of the USA.

  • Brian Sides

    Stop people in the shops in the UK ask them there priorates or what the priorities of the UK Government should be.
    I do not expect many would say more nuclear submarines. So how did the become a priorities of the UK Government.
    For how many years now has Netanyahu been saying that Iran is just weeks away from making a nuclear bomb.
    But we will be told again that the recent US strike on Iran nuclear facilities was required as Iran was just weeks away from making a nuclear bomb. Maybe they will even say 45 minutes away. Just as the UK Government started to condemn Israel ministers for there ethnic cleansing language Israel’s bombing campaign against Iran increased enough to get a response from Iran. So forget all about condemning
    Israel now we must support them. A donkey may follow a carrot on a stick . But the Israel lobby provides the stick and avoiding Israel condemnation is the carrot for career politicians,

  • Goose

    Iranian politicians are calling for immediate withdrawal from the NPT.

    “Since the NPT has brought us no benefit or deterrence, withdraw from it,” demanded Ali Akbar Raefipour, a commentator. He suggested Iran should “build 20 tactical bombs with 400 kilograms” [of enriched uranium].

    Ata’ollah Mohajerani, a former Iranian official, called for withdrawing from the NPT. He said “two countries with nuclear weapons have attacked Iran’s nuclear centres” and “the agency has not condemned the attacks.

    What did the west expect hem to say, Bravo, Mr Trump?

  • Brian Red

    After all the help Iran has given Russia in the war against the Kiev regime, is Putin looking the other way when Iran gets attacked by the Great Satan? If I were Khamenei or Pezeshkian I’d tell him to look elsewhere for his drones.

    FFS. Khrushchev managed to do something after the Bay of Pigs. The US now bombs Iran with bunker busters and Putin does f*** all. Never mind that Iran is much closer to Russia itself than Cuba is.

    There doesn’t seem to be any Russian response yet, either militarily or even only diplomatically.

    Putin might as well hand Russia’s permanent seat on the UN Security Council to the Zionists so they can add it to the three they already have.

    Perhaps Shoigu should seize power? Does Putin not give a toss about Asia or what? Maybe it’s about time Russia had an Asian president.

    • Republicofscotland

      Brian Red.

      Brian we don’t really know if Russia is or isn’t aiding Iran somehow – if anything Putin would do his utmost to keep it secret if he was – we know China sent a few planes to Iran, loaded with what I’m not sure – I’d imagine that both China and Russia wouldn’t want to see a regime change to install the puppet shah – who would surely remove Iran from BRICS – so for me its early days yet.

    • Bayard

      “There doesn’t seem to be any Russian response yet, either militarily or even only diplomatically.”

      Putin has said that Iran has not asked for help. Iran hasn’t said that they have asked Russia for help and were refused. If this had happened, why should they keep silent about it?

    • Republicofscotland

      Brian Red.

      Brian.

      This might cheer you up a bit.

      “China Just Gave Iran a Lifeline—Without BeiDou, Iran Might Have Surrendered

      Beneath a smoke-filled night sky, an Iranian missile streaked across the darkness and slammed directly into the Israeli Ministry of Defense’s command center. The explosion instantly cut surveillance feeds. Shockwaves rippled through nearby neighborhoods, shaking buildings across several kilometers.

      Meanwhile, in a Tehran command room, Iranian technicians monitored a BeiDou navigation terminal as the coordinates updated in real time. The missile hit with surgical precision. On-screen, the hit-probability curve spiked—marking a turning point: Iran had entered the age of precision warfare.”

      https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1936519848298942540.html

    • Stevie Boy

      Apparently, the cost of the bunker buster is $20mn each. All that for an empty facility, American cock waving !

      • Melrose

        I hope you’re only trying to be funny.
        According to conservative estimates, the DAILY cost of Israel’s military operations against Iran is over $200 million. DAILY. So the dozen GBU-57 bombs dropped by the USAF last night are nothing more than the nice bottle of wine you bring your friends when they ask you for dinner.

        • Bayard

          That $200M/day has already been spent. It will only cost the US if they replace them, which, given the way the war is going, looks unlikely.

  • Cornudet

    As I predicted in my last post, Operation Rising Tapeworm has succeeded in sufficiently irritating the guts of the lion so as to make it spew fire – one is left wondering how far the big cat barf will spread.

    However, Citoyen Starmer is a shitbag. He is scum He is the type of person who will say and do anything to garner wealth and power. He is a modern equivalent of the ancient Greek Sophists, the men who lynched Socrates. He is defending the parasitic, fascist apartheid state of Israel by attempting to shoot down missiles fired by a state under illegal and unprovoked assault by the malignant little hole, this nation under indictment for genocide at the ICC, and has the gall to brand as “terrorists” activists who spray paint on warplanea assisting in the same genocide; a a band for waving the flag of one of the few organ actively resisting the genocide , and to wave the flag with a studied absence of political conviction,

    Should I win the lottery I will assist Craig in reviving the Doune the Rabbit Hole festival, but only on condition that we hire Kneecap. And theirs is not a music form that I am wont to listen to. Au contrare! This morning I listened to an album of music by Richard Strauss recorded by the Berlin Philharmonic under Herbert von Karajan, fairly typical of my tastes. Lest anyone should :wonder if I was in any way attracted by the Nazi connection of this composer and conductor I answer firmly in the negative – the album was chosen as it is 30 years to the day since I first purchased and listened to it. Whereas today’s rehearsal was provided by Amazon music, three decades ago it was on cassette, purchased for 50 pence from Omega Music in Crewe, along with Blood on the Tracks for a fiver. Them were the days…

    • Jack

      The fact that Starmer even involved himself arguing against a harmless band like that just because they are against a genocidal regime says everything one need to know about this traitor. I bet his wife and her family are the ones that brainwashing this bot-like person that seems to say whatever shadowy people want him to say. He is devoid of any personality/thinking altogether. He called Kneecap participation in this upcoming festival “‘not appropriate”, that is from someone that for 22 months straight supported a heinous man-made famine and genocide. “Not appropriate” ?? Get the F out of here!

      No wonder the pro-israel fraction wanted Corbyn out, what a terrible difference Starmer have been.

  • Jack

    *U.S. intelligence do not claim that Iran is having or is working on nuclear weapons
    *IAEA do not calim that Iran is working on nuclear weapons
    *Under Geneva Convention it is strictly forbidden to target nuclear plants
    etc
    Either way one look at it, this is a brazen illegal, deceptive attack. A war of choice.

    It is also sickening to see the collective western vassal clientele approving these strikes, they do not even pretend there are something called international law anymore. This is not only an attack on Iran it is an attack on the Global south, it is the Global south that benefit the most from international law/protection. Disturbing that not more of them protest today. Not to mention stronger forces like BRICS, equally weak reaction.
    What is also disturbing how easily war is started today, some whim by in this case Trump set off a war just like that for no legitimate reason. Compare this with the iraq war which atleast had deliberations for quite some time in the UN (even though that war was as illegal as this one).

    One thing is obviously clear now after the american attacks. Iran *surprise surprise* do not have nuclear weapons, they would have used them by now or at the least let the world know that they have them.
    Con man Netanyahu did it again by internationalizing the conflict and dragging the west into their own war.
    The people that rule us is not loyal with us, their own populace, they are loyal to Israel and their interests, it is like the interest of Israel is above every other issue there is.

    Iranian parliament have now approved a bill about closing the Hormuz but do they really have the power to do so? They have the right to do it but how will they enforce it? Would not Trump just send boats taking over the strait?
    Iranian parliament moves to close Strait of Hormuz after US aggression: Lawmaker
    https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/06/22/750031/iranian-parliament-moves-close-strait-hormuz-after-us-aggression-lawmaker

  • Melrose

    There’s no hiding the bitter disappointment of all those -here and elsewhere- who strongly disapproved of the American strike.
    So it’s rather natural that they would take some time to recover, and find reasons to expect more favorable future developments.
    Once again, it seems more difficult to understand the current silence of both Russian and Chinese authorities (let alone the whole BRICS). If they feel compelled to only help Iran secretly, why is that?
    But even more unusual is the silence of the Supreme Leader. He received public assurances from the Donald that he wouldn’t be eliminated “as for now”. So what? Doesn’t he trust the POTUS? Is he like many Iranians the victim of the Internet shutdown in the country?
    The Donald just made a risky gamble: if things go south (metaphorically), he will lose the midterms. And many billion dollars, which is far worse in his mind. The Supreme Leader may have to make a choice between medical treatment in Russia and holy martyrdom. Heartbreaking.
    The only clear winner in this story is the evil Netanyahu, who is doing his best to rule his country in a perpetual state of war. The only way he can avoid being sentenced by the Courts…

    • Republicofscotland

      “Once again, it seems more difficult to understand the current silence of both Russian and Chinese authorities (let alone the whole BRICS). If they feel compelled to only help Iran secretly, why is that?”

      Melrose.

      Maybe its down to possible recriminations from Nato states (further sanctions etc) and their ME minions – I mean its not as if the likes of Britain, the USA , Germany, France etc haven’t secretly aided nation states to act against other nations – but I agree – if you are a close ally you should be openly aiding the nation in need – of course Nato – openly or more like brazenly, aided the Neo-Nazi dictatorship in Ukraine, and NK has now openly aided Russia in the Kursk region – China – NK Russia etc should openly aid Iran – if for nothing more than economic reason a puppet shah will cut close ties with them if he’s installed.

      ————————————

      “But even more unusual is the silence of the Supreme Leader. He received public assurances from the Donald that he wouldn’t be eliminated “as for now”. So what? Doesn’t he trust the POTUS?”

      Lets be honest would you trust Trump? – many American don’t, let alone an Iranian leader.

      ———————————

      “The only clear winner in this story is the evil Netanyahu, who is doing his best to rule his country in a perpetual state of war. The only way he can avoid being sentenced by the Courts…”

      A bit of clarity there from you – which I agree with.

      • Melrose

        Your approval is a welcomed blessing.
        Thank you so much for reading my posts so scrupulously.
        Your first point is rather confusing though. I thus retract myself on the opportunity of another shot of whisky. Or whiskey, despite your avatar…

    • Mike T

      If they feel compelled to only help Iran secretly, why is that?

      Excellent question; the short of it is that they feel that they are not ready to fight WWIII or whatever it might be called. The Trump War seems an option. The attack happened almost immediately the Nimitz Carrier Strike Group arrived having been redeployed from the South China Sea. Presumably the US Planners were concerned that the Vincete CSG alone would be vulnerable. Perhaps. But it was a redeployment from China, so they (accurately at this stage) discerned the Chinese would turn the blind eye. and allow the US their moment in the sun, attacking their Iranian ally (to what effect is unknowable to us) with apparent impunity. If they cannot protect their allies many will see them as an unreliable.

      I think in my minds eye I have marked down Chinese military power by several degrees.

    • Bayard

      “Once again, it seems more difficult to understand the current silence of both Russian and Chinese authorities”

      What part of “Iran hasn’t asked for help” are you struggling with?

      “If they feel compelled to only help Iran secretly, why is that?”

      Why let every fool with access to the internet and a keyboard know what you are doing? Where is the upside in that?

      I am constantly amazed by the sense of entitlement shown by those keyboard warriors who demand that Putin, Xi, Trump etc. keep them updated on their every move and plan. 1400 years ago, Sun Tzu outlined the importance of keeping the enemy guessing about your plans , resources and locations, but some people think they know better. Ah, the curse of omniscience!

      • Melrose

        Chevalier, you’re by far the funniest person I met in a recent past.
        Kudos for your jokes, and please keep them coming.

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