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  • #92583 Reply
    mods_cm_org

      This thread is for any “breaking news” bulletins concerning the crisis in Gaza that could be of interest to readers of the Craig Murray blog.

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      #92598 Reply
      Jack

        Waking up to a new day only to find out that Israel have struck even more hospitals, including a children’s hospital!

        The Israeli army has targeted the entrance of al-Nasr Children’s Hospital in western Gaza City

        https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/11/4/israel-hamas-war-live-20-dead-in-israeli-attack-on-school-ministry

        Israel is on par with the nazis in their fanatical racism and callous attitude to human life. I just repeating myself but how can people with power be silent over this? How?

        #92584 Reply
        Republicofscotland

          Watch US protestors physically hang onto the side of a US military ship that’s loaded with weapons bound for Israel in order to stop it from leaving the port.

          https://nitter.net/ajplus/status/1720595005717500345#m

          #92586 Reply
          Republicofscotland

            Looks like Russian/Israeli relations could deteriorate, and this could among one of the reason.

            https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israel-said-to-stop-warning-russia-ahead-of-syria-strikes-amid-worsening-ties/

            “Israel’s relationship with Russia is deteriorating after it was revealed that MOSSAD had sent intelligence officers to Ukraine prior to Oct 7 Hamas attack to help Ukraine on planning attacks on Russian troops.”

            https://nitter.net/Ignis_Rex/status/1720636553033392607#m

            #92588 Reply
            Republicofscotland

              Support for the Palestinians is growing.

              “The Algerian parliament voted unanimously to support the Palestinian resistance to Israel’s war on Gaza. The decision to enter the war or not is with Algerian President Abdelmadjid Tebboune.”

              https://nitter.net/MintPressNews/status/1720498794259747295#m

              Algerians know a thing or two about fighting off oppressive colonialism.

              https://nitter.net/Kathleen_Tyson_/status/1719694622442537021#m

              #92590 Reply
              Jack

                It is absurd that almost after 1 month of non-stop bombing one read statements by the arab states and US and it is like they are from the first day of the fighting. Nothing will move them.

                Israel ‘committing war crimes’ in Gaza, Jordan FM says

                “We don’t accept that this is self-defence,” Safadi said, calling for an immediate ceasefire. “It cannot be justified under any pretext and it will not bring Israel security, it will not bring the region peace.”

                Following meeting with Arab leaders, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken says “we remain resolutely committed and focused on securing the release of hostages held by Hamas”.

                Blinken says the US believes the status quo of a Hamas-controlled Gaza cannot continue and he discussed with his Arab counterparts how to chart a better path forward towards a two-state solution.

                https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/11/4/israel-hamas-war-live-20-dead-in-israeli-attack-on-school-ministry

                Note also that Blinken is (only) commited to release hostages in Gaza, not stopping the genocide and not commited to release any palestinians in israeli prisons.

                #92592 Reply
                Jack

                  Remember the Gaza workers that disapeared in Israel after 7th of october?

                  Thousands of Gaza workers go ‘missing’ in Israel amid wartime mass arrests

                  Palestinians whose permits to work in Israel were revoked are believed to be held in detention camps, but Israel has so far refused to release information about them, human rights groups say.

                  https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/28/thousands-of-gaza-workers-go-missing-in-israel-amid-wartime-mass-arrests

                  Now some of them have been released and they speak of humiliating torture and inhumane and sadistic violent treatment by Israel, atleast one of them was murdered in jail. These workers had no ties whatsoever to Hamas, still they were jailed and collectively punished just because they are from Gaza!

                  See all consequtive posts/videos and their testimonies:

                  https://nitter.net/muhammadshehad2/status/1720539190402670871#m

                  Imagine the horror of being confined for almost 1 month and coming back to Gaza only to find your house, wife, kids all slaughtered.

                  #92594 Reply
                  AG

                    this is a Palestine protest English stlye

                    Clash Report @clashreport
                    Massive pro-Palestine protest in Liverpool Street Station, London.

                    https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1719441849306230859

                    this is Berlin style

                    SIde A
                    https://twitter.com/berlinerzeitung/status/1720487434033516821

                    Side B
                    https://twitter.com/berlinerzeitung/status/1720392720902979653

                    #92595 Reply
                    AG

                      aspects I don´t know much about:

                      “China and Israel have enjoyed serious ties. What happens now? – Beijing, in an effort at neutrality, has called for a ceasefire and protection of civilians in the Gaza war.”

                      https://responsiblestatecraft.org/china-israel/

                      But being this by RS I am naturally cautious.

                      “We know that Beijing wants to prevent the escalation of the crisis, but I do not think that it has enough instruments to defuse the crisis,” said Nurettin Akçay, of the Center for Global Studies at Shanghai University. He explained that China’s limited leverage over Israel is a major obstacle to Beijing successfully de-escalating this conflict through diplomatic means. “It is my belief that China’s position in the Middle East is somewhat overstated. Its actual power to shape events in the region is quite limited, despite its economic clout. The ongoing crisis has highlighted the fact that China lacks the necessary hard power to pursue its objectives,” he told RS.”

                      #92596 Reply
                      AG

                        “Nasrallah & the Future of the War”

                        “The Hizbullah leader all but made it clear that a larger war is inevitable but he did not want to be the one to announce it.”
                        by As`ad AbuKhalil

                        as most of his pieces, interesting:

                        https://consortiumnews.com/2023/11/04/asad-abukhalil-nasrallah-the-future-of-the-war/

                        “The expectations for Hizbullah leader Hasan Nasrallah’s speech on Friday were very high; even the U.S. National Security Council’s spokesperson at the White House admitted that they too were awaiting the speech. In the Arab world there was anticipation or a general wish that Nasrallah would declare an official entry into the larger war, thereby igniting a regional conflict that would change the shape of the Middle East.”

                        “Hizbullah, unwisely, increased expectations by releasing video teasers showing Nasrallah walking or seated. Israelis and much of the world were holding their breaths. Lebanese were nervous but hopeful that Nasrallah would take their plight into consideration.”

                        “Hizbulllah is the first Arab political party, or even state if we add them to the mix, which devotes energy and resources to engage in psychological warfare against the Israelis. The PLO had no notion of that, and the speeches of its leaders (and of Arab leaders) were bombastic and emotional and did not rely on a base of military power and preparedness. Nasrallah is an expert on Israel; he spends hours reading about Israel and its politics and military.”
                        “Nasrallah must have felt enormous pressure before the speech. For a leader who uniquely (in the history of Arab leaders and of Israel) makes decisions on the basis of a cost-benefit analysis, Nasrallah’s hands were a bit tied in Lebanon.”

                        “Weeks before Nasrallah’s speech, journalists on the payroll of Gulf regimes and journalists who work for media funded by NATO governments and George Soros came together and promoted a petition rejecting the war between Lebanon and Israel, insisting that Lebanon is too fatigued to participate in a war against Israel. Money was mysteriously made available for those people to buy billboards sending the same message: that Hizbullah should keep Lebanon out of the war.”

                        “The movement did not spread much, but it registered with people who are worried about their living conditions, in the wake of the economic collapse and the elimination of people’s life savings. It did not help that Israeli leaders make weekly threats that they would turn Lebanon back to the pre-industrial age or that they would threaten to eliminate Lebanon altogether.”

                        #92627 Reply
                        Tatyana

                          Just came here to say thank you to all of you guys for filling up this thread. I have no other way to find out this news other than to read what you have collected from different parts of the Internet. Highly appreciated.
                          Thanks also to the moderators for creating this discussion thread.
                          And my thanks to Jack, whose activism apparently prompted the creation of this thread. And perhaps sympathy too? It seems Jack’s activity also led to moderator restrictions.
                          Jack, if you are reading this, then I send you warm greetings from Russia and ask you not to be upset. I hope you can find an acceptable compromise between your activism and the commenting rules. Best regards!

                          #92628 Reply
                          Tatyana

                            Let me make a small contribution to this thread.
                            The Russian news agency, citing the Kan radio station, reports today that Netanyahu has suspended Amichai Eliyahu from participating in government meetings.
                            Amichai Eliyahu is the Minister of Heritage (!) He spoke about the possibility of dropping a nuclear bomb on Gaza in an interview with the Kol Berama radio station. In addition, he spoke out against allowing any humanitarian aid into the enclave. He said Israel would not “hand over humanitarian aid to the Nazis” and “there is no such thing as uninvolved civilians in Gaza.”
                            Eliyahu is a member of the nationalist Zionist Otzma Yehudit (Powerful Israel) party, led by National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, known for his controversial anti-Palestinian attacks. The party’s ideology denies the possibility of creating a Palestinian state west of the Jordan River.
                            sources:

                            Russian Info Agency
                            https://ria.ru/20231105/gaza-1907565772.html

                            Radio Kan in English
                            https://twitter.com/kan_english

                            ____
                            There’s some hope for Palestinians, I think. At least some chance for settling the conflict. I believe that Netanyahu’s move to exclude mad dogs from government meetings is a good sign.

                            #92629 Reply
                            Tatyana

                              The Times of Israel also reports on the Heritage Minister

                              Far-right minister: Nuking Gaza is an option, population should ‘go to Ireland or deserts’

                              https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/far-right-minister-nuking-gaza-is-an-option-population-should-go-to-ireland-or-deserts/
                              …He backs retaking the Strip’s territory and restoring the settlements there. Asked about the fate of the Palestinian population, he says:

                              “They can go to Ireland or deserts, the monsters in Gaza should find a solution by themselves.”

                              He says the northern Strip has no right to exist, adding that anyone waving a Palestinian or Hamas flag “shouldn’t continue living on the face of the earth.”
                              ___
                              Ireland must be more than happy to know that someone in Israel has plans for them to make room to give space to the Palestinians, so that Israel can take the territories for itself.

                              #92630 Reply
                              AG

                                when I visited Ireland as a high schooler I was told the country was short of men, 70% of the population being female.
                                So the Israelis do have a point.

                                * * *
                                More serious,

                                Chris Hedges with his latest piece and some nice fun facts on Netanyahu
                                (I am everything but a Rabin fan, a war criminal like all of them, but there is always someone even worse I guess):

                                “Israel’s Final Solution for the Palestinians
                                When Jewish extremists, fanatic Zionists, religious zealots, ultranationalists and crypto-fascists in the apartheid state of Israel say they want to wipe Gaza off the face of the earth, believe them.”

                                https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/israels-final-solution-for-the-palestinians

                                p.s. however I personally disagree with using terms like “final solution” simply because it being so serious a matter that it´s inadequate for rhetoric use. And argueing in favour of Nazis, extermination even is not equal to executing that. Lets keep separate deed and word. But Hedges as always and nonetheless highly recommended

                                excerpt:

                                “I covered the birth of Jewish fascism in Israel. I reported on the extremist Meir Kahane, who was barred from running for office and whose Kach Party was outlawed in 1994 and declared a terrorist organization by Israel and the United States. I attended political rallies held by Benjamin Netanyahu, who received lavish funding from rightwing Americans, when he ran against Yitzhak Rabin, who was negotiating a peace settlement with the Palestinians. Netanyahu’s supporters chanted “Death to Rabin.” They burned an effigy of Rabin dressed in a Nazi uniform. Netanyahu marched in front of a mock funeral for Rabin.

                                Prime Minister Rabin was assassinated on Nov. 4, 1995 by a Jewish fanatic. Rabin’s widow, Lehea, blamed Netanyahu and his supporters for her husband’s murder.

                                Netanyahu, who first became prime minister in 1996, has spent his political career nurturing Jewish extremists, including Avigdor Lieberman, Gideon Sa’ar, Naftali Bennett, and Ayelet Shaked. His father, Benzion — who worked as an assistant to the Zionist pioneer Vladimir Jabotinsky, who Benito Mussolini referred to as “a good fascist” — was a leader in the Herut Party that called on the Jewish state to seize all the land of historic Palestine. Many of those who formed the Herut Party carried out terrorist attacks during the 1948 war that established the state of Israel. Albert Einstein, Hannah Arendt, Sidney Hook and other Jewish intellectuals, described the Herut Party in a statement published in The New York Times as a “political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to Nazi and Fascist parties.

                                “The left is no longer capable of overcoming the toxic ultra-nationalism that has evolved here,” Zeev Sternhell, a Holocaust survivor and Israel’s foremost authority on fascism, warned in 2018, “the kind whose European strain almost wiped out a majority of the Jewish people.” Sternhell added, “[W]e see not just a growing Israeli fascism but racism akin to Nazism in its early stages.”

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                                #92631 Reply
                                Jack

                                  Thank you so much for your kind words Tatyana, yes I guess we have to share links here instead, not optimal but it is what it is.

                                  #92633 Reply
                                  Tatyana

                                    Jack, just to let you know, in my personal system you get the codename Alexander Matrosov 🙂 thank you for your sacrifice

                                    #92643 Reply
                                    ET

                                      Irish foreign minister ratcheting up a notch Ireland’s criticism of Israeli actions in Gaza stating “We certainly could be watching war crimes unfolding,” Mr Martin told RTÉ’s This Week programme on Sunday.

                                      https://archive.ph/dlM4b/again?url=https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2023/11/05/war-crimes-may-be-unfolding-during-israeli-bombardment-of-gaza-micheal-martin-says/

                                      Also, in the same piece:

                                      “There is “no evidence” that Ireland’s stance on the war in Gaza has led to Israel blocking Irish citizens from leaving the enclave, ….”

                                      Enough people had questioned that aspect for the Irish government to make some kind of statement about it. I had asked that in this post in a different thread:
                                      https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2023/11/a-textbook-case-of-genocide/comment-page-2/#comment-1049160

                                      Just to complicate things a little further one of the hostages taken by Hamas is an eight year old irish girl.
                                      https://archive.ph/E7EC5/again?url=https://www.irishtimes.com/world/middle-east/2023/11/05/emily-hand-believed-killed-by-hamas-now-thought-to-be-alive-in-gaza-her-irish-father-says/

                                      I guess diplomacy must tread carefully.

                                      #92644 Reply
                                      ET

                                        Dang it. Sorry mods, forgot this forum treats links differently from main forum. And thanks for the spelling corrections in other posts. It was a typo, I swear….

                                        #92663 Reply
                                        AG

                                          Norman Finkelstein with a long response after Bernie Sanders on CNN opposed a cease-fire
                                          https://normanfinkelstein.substack.com/p/a-response-to-senator-bernie-sanders

                                          (transcript or video 40 min.)

                                          Intro:

                                          “RUSH TRANSCRIPT

                                          My name is Norm Finkelstein. I heard Bernie Sanders’ statement this evening opposing the ceasefire. I had planned to spend this evening reading, as I’ve fallen dreadfully behind in my reading and unless I keep reading, I can’t bring anything fresh and important to what’s happening now. I was so furious at that remark of Bernie’s, when he said he opposed the ceasefiree and my innards started to writhe and I decided I had to respond. Now this is wholly unrehearsed.”

                                          p.s. this Sanders stunt could cost the Democrats some votes next year.

                                          #92678 Reply
                                          AG

                                            @Mod: What would you suggest:

                                            If I post an entire German piece machine-translated by me (or at least a major chunk so readers get the gist) as this one:
                                            https://verfassungsblog.de/solidaritat-mit-israel-aber-kein-blankoscheck/

                                            however without a longer verdict of my own, do that here or rather under the blog entry?

                                            It is again a German lawyers´ assessment of the situation at hand important as a “counter-view” (that´s my major concern right now.)


                                            [ Mod: Yes, that would be essentially just an external link (with a very lengthy passage translated from it as evidence of what can be found there) – so it should be posted in this forum thread rather than in the article comments. ]

                                            #92687 Reply
                                            Brianfujisan

                                              Hi AG..Yes I’ve got the video Up…Watched the first 15 mins.. So need to get back to it..Norman was great last night on George Galloway too.

                                              #92690 Reply
                                              AG

                                                Right! I totally forgot about him talking to Galloway.

                                                #92692 Reply
                                                Tatyana

                                                  The second day I try to make out what is the video you mention. Someone says Mr. Murray was on the Grayzone, another person says Mr. Murray speaks with Mr. Galloway. I wish someobody posted the link. Seems we are in the right place for posting the links.

                                                  #92693 Reply
                                                  Justin

                                                    Yesterday’s episode of The Mother Of All Talk Shows (TMOATS), featuring Norman Finkelstein and Craig Murray, can be found here: Episode 288 (5 Nov 2023) – YouTube, 2h 10m 10s

                                                    00:30:50 Prof. Norman Finkelstein
                                                    01:30:00 Hon. Craig Murray

                                                    #92698 Reply
                                                    AG

                                                      this is a good example for how dumb a nice educated fellow can be:

                                                      Robert Wright from Non-Zero podcast talks to Daniel Seidemann
                                                      “Can Israel-Palestine Be Solved?”, 87 min.
                                                      https://nonzero.substack.com/p/can-israel-palestine-be-solved-robert#details

                                                      CV Seideman, attorney from Jerusalem with ties to the Ehud Barak government and Cornell University among others
                                                      https://t-j.org.il/about-terrestrial-jerusalem/bios/

                                                      I was just listening to 1:00:00-1:20:00

                                                      example: He once conversed over Hiroshima and Nagasaki with a later US Air Force General. He was stunned to hear the man argue that Hiroshima was no war crime but Nagasaki was. He can well be stunned and I don´t expect him to insult the General during their conversation, neither would I, but in hindsight, please reconsider. On that note Seideman says: Israel of course has no choice but to attack now. This guy surely must know the facts on the ground there. (Or DOES he?). And still no doubts.

                                                      The TC stamps are:

                                                      2:38 The significance of Jerusalem in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
                                                      12:41 Will the current crisis explode into a wider war?
                                                      17:02 Israel’s ultra-nationalist minister of national security
                                                      26:13 Settler attacks intensify in the West Bank
                                                      40:15 The two-state solution is dead—can it be revived?
                                                      56:23 Has Israel lost the support of western young people?
                                                      1:03:47 What Hamas hoped to accomplish on October 7
                                                      1:14:35 How hopelessness drives support for Hamas
                                                      1:23:02 Can one-state aspirations produce a two-state solution?

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