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I just did a quick search to see if any of the MSM have covered the letter by the 25 rabbis, and it looks as if most of them have blanked it, but in the process I came across this wikipedia entry entitled ‘Gaza genocide‘, which I’ve not come across before. It’s really long, and very detailed, as such, and I’ve by no means read all of it yet (which would probably take a couple of hours), but I happened to read the following bit (in the section headed ‘Rhetoric from US politicians’):
Republican U.S. Representative Brian Mast compared all Palestinians to Nazis in November on the House floor.[465] On 31 January 2024, he said that Palestinian babies are not innocent civilians but “terrorists” who should be killed, that more infrastructure in Gaza needs to be destroyed, and “It would be better if you kill all the terrorists and kill everyone who are supporters.”[466]
When asked by an activist about the deaths of Palestinian children, Republican Representative Andy Ogles said: “I think we should kill ’em all…Hamas and the Palestinians have been attacking Israel for 20 years. It’s time to pay the piper.”
Last night I came across the following vid by Owen Jones entitled ‘Israeli TV Debates Killing KIDS – And Calling Babies “THE ENEMY”‘, and along with about eight or nine others, saved it to watch later, which I’ve just got round to doing. The clips from the TV debates are hard to stomach, and there is no doubt whatsoever that the proponents are either completely demented nutters and totally psychotic, or paid by the ruling psychopathic elite to go on these programmes to inflame the population:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3S1pY7JMVY (12mins 40secs)
Also came across this as well:
Kneecap manager’s response on Coachella controversy shows Irish moral clarity | Janta Ka Reporter
CM retweeted someone’s tweet about Michael D Higgins pushing back at smearing anti Gaza war activities as antisemitism at the pope’s funeral. The following link reports what he said.
Higgins slams claims linking Gaza criticism to anti-Semitism as ‘outrageous’
In their introduction to a Haaretz editorial they reposted today, JVL link to a Middle East Eye article posted a week ago. Here’s the headline and sub-headline and some clips from it:
Criticism and celebration in Israel after death of Pope Francis
Many Israelis slammed the pontiff for his vocal support for Palestinians and took to social media to celebrate his death
The Vatican’s announcement of Pope Francis’ death on Monday morning was met with a mix of celebration and criticism in Israel, where politicians, pundits and social media users focused on the pontiff’s condemnation of Israel amid its war on the Gaza Strip.
The pope, aged 88, passed away after denouncing the “deplorable humanitarian situation” caused by Israel’s onslaught on Gaza and expressing his “closeness to the sufferings… of all the Israeli people and the Palestinian people” in his final address on Easter Sunday.
“I appeal to the warring parties: call a ceasefire, release the hostages and come to the aid of a starving people that aspires to a future of peace,” he said….
Zvika Klein, the editor-in-chief of the Jerusalem Post, characterised Pope Francis’ criticism of Israel and support for Palestinians under its assault as “unconditional support for Hamas”….
Commenting under the Channel 14 article, one user called him a “scoundrel” and said “it’s good that he is dead”.
“Thank God the Pope is dead,” another agreed.
On Facebook, social media users categorised him as a “hater of Judaism”.
Under Kan 11’s post about the death of the pope, one user wrote: “I don’t care about this psychotic old man, who hates Israel”.
Under a Ynet report, another wrote: “Pope Francis will be remembered as the one who consistently backed modern antisemitism,” adding that the world is “better off without him”.
Another user said that the pope was “the father of impurity. Another pedophile,” and added: “Thank god we got rid of him.” Another user said: “good news at last.”
On the Walla news account, one user called him “a heretic who supported Nazi Hamas”. And another asked: “Why do you announce on the Jewish media on an Israel-hater who died?”….
https://www.middleeasteye.net/trending/reactions-israel-death-pope-francis
Yep, the zionist hate-mongers were out in force again shortly after it was announced Pope Francis had died.
Another liberal wimp elected in Canada, I say wimp because this person recently chickened out in calling out Israel’s war in Gaza a genocide:
Canadian PM Mark Carney rows back on Gaza ‘genocide’ comments at rally
Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb_xIkmtsxw
Note also the booing when the “heckler” bring up the genocide. Liberals are such hypocrites.
There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the 15 aid workers were deliberately killed by IDF troops, who lay in wait at the location so as to ambush and murder them when they arrived there. They thought they’d got away with it, but then the video footage emerged exposing their lies, and they’ve been turning somersaults ever since to try and explain the whole episode away. And they’ve been doing their best to make it all more and more convoluted so that people find it hard to follow. And needless to say, it’s all a load of complete and utter lying B/S bollocks.
I’ve just read several articles that came up when I did a search re the IDF report of their (alledged) investigation and, as is so often the case with news coverage, you get different snippets of information in articles that aren’t in other articles. For example, in a CNN article it says that the deputy battalion commander had a ‘poor line of sight to the convoy’, because it was ‘obstructed by a hillside’. Here’s the passage from the article:
Har-Even said the attack on the convoy stemmed from a series of faulty assumptions that soldiers from the elite Golani Reconnaissance Battalion made that day and from the deputy battalion commander’s poor line of sight to the convoy, which he said was obstructed by a hillside.
Ah, well now, that it explains it all, doesn’t it, but then fortunately the hillside doesn’t appear to have obstructed them from firing none-stop at the aid workers for several minutes and, just prior to doing so, identifying first NINE Hamas operatives amongst the aid workers, and then some days later it changed, without explanation, to six. Easily done of course when, for some inexplicable reason, you feel threatened, and in the process mistake three of them for Hamas operatives who weren’t. But being serious for a moment, it’s also the first time I’ve read an article in which it says that the IDF initially said there were NINE Hamas operatives, and prior to now, I’ve only read that ‘it was at least six’. And I can only assume that most of the MSM ommitted to mention the bit about the db commander’s view of the convoy being obstructed by a hillside because it was just too absurd for words, Monty Pythonesque even. But then again, I expect they all have a good laugh contriving and concocting all this stuff. Anyway, here’s a link to the CNN article:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/20/middleeast/israeli-military-professional-failures-gaza-medics-intl/index.html (April 20, 2025)
And here are links to several Sky News articles, and a snippet or two:
Two hours of terror: Sky News investigation reveals how Israel’s deadly attack on aid workers unfolded
New evidence unearthed by Sky News contradicts Israel’s official account of the killing of 15 aid workers.
IDF claim: The vehicles lacked necessary permissions to travel in a combat zone
What we know: The area was not declared a combat zone until four-and-a-half hours after the attack
The IDF has also justified the decision to open fire by saying the vehicles were “uncoordinated” – meaning their movements were not approved in advance by the IDF.
Speaking to Sky News, however, senior officials from the UN, PRCS and Civil Defence say coordination was not required because the area had not been declared a combat zone.
“It was a safe area and does not require coordination,” says Mohammed Abu Mosahba, director of ambulance and emergency services at PRCS.
As Sky News reported on 3 April, an evacuation order for the area was only issued at 8.31am, almost four-and-a-half hours after the first ambulance was attacked.
https://news.sky.com/story/two-hours-of-terror-sky-news-investigation-reveals-how-israels-deadly-attack-on-aid-workers-unfolded-13348776 (April 22, 2025)
Gaza ambulance ‘crushed’ by IDF as aid attacks increase
Sky News analysis shows the deaths of 15 humanitarian workers whose bodies and ambulances were buried in the sand are part of an increasing pattern.
https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-ambulance-crushed-by-idf-as-aid-attacks-increase-13340782 (April 3, 2025)
Israeli troops shot at Gaza aid workers from ‘point-blank range’, leaked documents reportedly show
Documents reviewed by Israeli newspaper Haaretz show that IDF investigators were “not convinced” by a deputy commander’s claim that he misidentified aid vehicles as Hamas.
https://news.sky.com/story/israeli-troops-shot-at-gaza-aid-workers-from-point-blank-range-leaked-documents-reportedly-show-13354441 (April 23, 2025)
IDF report into deadly attack on aid workers is ‘full of lies’, Palestinian Red Crescent Society says
An Israeli military investigation into the deaths of aid workers in Gaza is “full of lies”, the Palestinian Red Crescent Society (PRSC) has claimed.
Following the military probe, a deputy commander will be dismissed for providing an “inaccurate report” and a commanding officer will be reprimanded, the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) said, adding there was “no attempt to conceal the event”….
https://news.sky.com/story/israeli-military-fires-deputy-commander-as-it-releases-findings-of-investigation-into-deadly-attack-on-aid-workers-13352476 (April 21, 2025)
I meant to say in my earlier post in respect of the Sky News investigation determining, in effect, that the IDF were lying about the area being a combat zone or whatever at the time, and also that the paramedics et al neededed clearance from them before entering the area… whether THIS particular falsehood was covered by other MSM organisations – ie did other MSM relate this particular finding of the Sky New investigation. I can only assume that Sky News themselves would probably know of any that did, so I might try contacting them, if it’s possible to do so, which would save me reading through hundreds of articles potentially, trying to determine whether this one did, and that one didn’t. About an hour ago I actually did a search on the Guardian’s website re >15 paramedics killed idf<, and there were around forty articles that came up (which I saved to new tabs), so if that’s anything to go by, it’d take me a month of Sundays to read through all of them. That said, the Times and the Telegraph articles will mostly be behind paywalls.
Anyway, it’s practically impossible for my few remaining brain-cells to hold all the details in respect of this episode in place, and so it occured to me a bit earlier that maybe someone has put an easy-to-follow timeline of events together covering it all, and so I did a search in that respect, but there was nothing. But this wikipedia piece came up, and although it’s not as detailed as I’d hoped, it’s about the nearest thing to a timeline of events that seems to exist at the moment. And it does make some interesting points that I’ve not heard mentioned before (but then wouldn’t expect to in the MSM):
Rafah paramedic massacre
On 23 March 2025, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) attacked several humanitarian vehicles, including five ambulances, a fire truck, and a United Nations vehicle….
The massacre was carried out by soldiers from the Golani Brigade. At the moment of the killings, they were acting under the command of Brig Gen Yehuda Vach, who has a history of establishing “kill zones” in Gaza where civilians are killed and of telling his subordinates that “there are no innocents in Gaza.”[16] Also present at the site were field operatives from Unit 504, a military intelligence unit with a reputation for cruelty and acts of torture….
Following the release of the video recording, Israel changed its account of the incident, admitting that its soldiers have “made mistakes.”[15] Analysts have noted that Israel has a history of giving inaccurate explanations to account for its killings of civilians and of changing its version of events when evidence emerges that refutes its initial explanation.[20] IDF Chief of Staff Eyal Zamir ordered an internal investigation into the incident by the unit responsible for handling suspected war crimes. To date, dozens of incidents have been referred to this unit, but no reprimands or punishments have been issued against IDF soldiers.[21]
According to the Israeli human rights organization Yesh Din, the system established by the IDF’s general staff to investigate potential war crimes is primarily designed to shield the military from accountability while maintaining the appearance of due process. An analysis of Israeli military campaigns over the past decade revealed that at least 664 complaints were submitted for review, yet more than 80% were closed without even launching a criminal investigation. The organization concluded that the military’s law enforcement system seldom pursues charges against low-ranking soldiers and almost entirely avoids investigating senior commanders….
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafah_paramedic_massacre
This Euronews article also came up in the results, from April 7th, but is fairly limited in what it says, but here’s one passage from it:
5 March: PRCS releases mobile phone footage; IDF acknowledges initial version of events was ‘mistaken’
After the PRCS shared video footage retrieved from the mobile phone of one of the paramedics killed, clearly showing the vehicles with their emergency signals on, the Israeli military acknowledged its initial version of events was “mistaken.”
It also claimed that six of the 15 first responders killed were Hamas operatives, but has not provided any evidence for that claim.
Euronews asked the IDF to elaborate on that allegation, but a spokesperson declined to comment.
And, needless to say, the IDF WON’T be providing any evidence because they don’t have any of course, and will keep on declining to comment if asked to elaborate.
Just came across this very detailed account of the retrieval of the bodies of the 15 paramedics and first responders on Euro-Med Monitor, posted on April 1st. Here’s a part of that particular section of it:
“As soon as the incident occurred, we entered the site west of Rafah with OCHA crews”, Sufyan Ahmed, a member of the Civil Defence team involved in the effort to recover the victims’ bodies, said in a statement to Euro-Med Monitor. “The Israeli army told OCHA that the bodies of the victims were found next to a fire truck and an electrical pole. Using a small bulldozer, we started our excavation at the spot the army had designated. One body was discovered. After examining it, it was determined to be the body of the mission leader, Anwar Abdel Hamid al-Attar.”
He continued: “We used OCHA to get in touch with the army and enquire about the whereabouts of the other bodies. They replied that the bodies were in the same hole from which we had taken al-Attar’s body, next to the electrical pole. We dug deeper into the hole and kept looking, but we could not find anything. We then had to leave the site because the army had given us a limited amount of time.
“We went to the site the following day and waited at a nearby location, awaiting the army’s approval to enter,” he added. “After roughly five hours, we were told that entry was refused, so we departed. The following day, we anticipated being granted access to the site, but were still denied permission. After a few days of waiting, we received approval yesterday, Sunday, and were able to access the site. We were told that the army would stay with us until they told us where the bodies were interred so that we could start the excavation process.”
Explained Ahmed: “When we got to the site, a quadcopter was flying overhead, showing us where the bodies were buried. We received a sign pointing to the graveyard from the drone. We were shocked to learn that the designated site was far from the one where we had previously been informed the bodies were interred. At that moment, we recognised that they had been attempting to delay, procrastinate, and waste our time the first [few days]. We, the Civil Defence staff (two paramedics and two drivers), convened briefly after the new location was determined to devise a strategy for safely retrieving the bodies. We had prior experience on similar missions and had the required equipment.
“We started digging right away, discovered a body, and recovered it. We dug out another body that we found underneath. We then found a third body underneath. We dug further until all of the Red Crescent and Civil Defence personnel’s bodies were found in the same hole. The body of an UNRWA employee was the only one still missing. We asked OCHA about its location, and they told us that it was close to the ‘barracks’ area, west of Rafah.
The bodies had distinct features, but they were in the early stages of decomposition. When they were examined, it was evident that a barrage of bullets had struck them. Based on my observations, the injuries were located in the chest region. A closer look revealed that some of the victims had still been alive despite their injuries—they were apparently buried alive with their feet bound.
“Among the bodies we looked at was Ibrahim al-Maghari’s. His body was covered in severe bruises and showed evidence of torture, and his legs seemed bound. After being shot in the back of the head, his face was completely ripped apart. Regarding Fouad al-Jamal’s body, he was shot in the head from a very close distance, causing his skull to shatter,[giving the appearance of] crushed bones. We discovered that every employee of the Palestinian Red Crescent had been shot in the left and right sides of the head.
After getting permission from the Israeli army, we removed the bodies with immense grief and suffering, moved them to ambulances, and left the site for the hospital.”
Israel’s execution of 15 medical personnel is unprecedented in recent history; crime demands immediate accountability
It is obscene and like most others, such ponerology fill me with revulsion. In a just and fair world, Israel would become the pariah – every country would shun and cease all relations – no trade, no diplomatic exchange, no recognition of sovereignty of the State or its citizens – and a complete ravel ban. Build a fence around Israel and let them fend for themselves until they consume each other.
I always wondered why the Israelites were so persecuted throughout history. I’m beginning to understand why. The Zionist incarnation and the evidence we have all witnessed over the last 18 months should provide urgent momentum for every country to take the above action and more – a clear and unequivocal warning that any use of military force by Israel would lead to its total destruction.
But we can’t do that for two reasons. Firstly, Zionists control the world banking and financial system. The Balfour Agreement was negotiated by Lord Rothschild – that dynasty and others are instrumental and pivotal in the Zionist enterprise and the Greater Israel Project. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you, remains the mantra of pragmatic politicians everywhere. But they are cowards – and complicit in this obscenity.
The other reason is the pernicious influence of Zionist and Israeli agents in politics, media and every aspect of industry – including and especially online. They make life interesting and sometimes not without difficulty. That have form, experience and some ‘success’. 9/11 for example. Salisbury for example. Any atrocity that undermines and divides society.
We need representatives that act without fear or favour. The current PM is a Zionist stooge – too stupid to claim agency – but his conduct on Corbyn as exposed by the Labour Files should leave no one in any doubt where his sympathies lie. It could be an interesting summer.
Just came across the following in a CNN article from April 7th, which I’ve not come across before:
According to an Israeli military official, troops from a brigade that had set up an ambush opened fire on the emergency crews that morning, after intelligence had deemed their movements “suspicious,” and believed they had successfully carried out an attack on Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad militants.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/07/middleeast/gaza-aid-workers-killed-audio-intl-invs/index.html
Well they certainly set up an ambush, but the stuff about intelligence having deemed their movements suspicious is just complete bollox of course.
Funny, isn’t it, how the IDF rarely elaborate. I wonder why not. Oh, right, and this is just two days after the video footage came to light and hit the headlines and blew the IDF’s reason/justification for firing on the paramedics and first responders out of the water – ie that the vehicles were ‘advancing suspiciously’ towards soldiers without prior co-ordination and with their lights off. So now it turns out that they had ‘intelligence’, but didn’t mention it before for some strange reason.
My god, they’re so transparent it’s a complete and utter joke!
PS I hadn’t heard the story about the son standing in for his dad before… How mind-blowingly tragic for his father was that.
Shibboleth
I always wondered why the Israelites were so persecuted throughout history. I’m beginning to understand why.
Yes, I have begun to question this myself, while jews outside of Israel must not be blamed for what Israel do, what I believe is very disturbing is that jewish organisations/groups do not only refuse to condemn Israel but oftentimes proudly and in the most bold of way support what Israel is doing. Their attitude seems to be, “yes Israel commit genocide and so what?”. Do they not realize how bad they make the jewish community look? Do they not realize how their behavior actually cause antisemitism? But I assume antisemitism just fuel their cause. They utilize that victimhood to the maximum because under that cover they know they are free to do and say whatever they want.
On the one hand jewish groups often claim – rightly again, that they should not be blamed for what Israel do, but deep down they support what Israel is doing, it is very manipulative. It is like they feel entitled, they feel that it is their right to support a genocide and then become genuinely baffled if someone level criticism against them for taking this heinous position.
Imagine if majority of muslim organisations/groups would go out and support ISIS like this. It would be as sick, but when large sectors of jews do it, one should simply shut up about it or risk being labeled an antisemite. It is so bizarre.The other day there were protests in the US against the visit by the right-wing racist israeli minister Ben-Gvir, look at the video, why is that these people always have to be so foul? Evil? They are so ugly and uncivilized in their behavior, like they really want to rub it in:
Pro-israel protesters hurl insults at pro-palestine protesters in New York
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5HtnWw3a53A
Imagine living in Palestine and have to face these type of psychos every day. As I said earlier, zionism have all the traits of a racist terrorist sect/cult, just like the KKK but only normalized.Just came across the following in a BBC News article about the IDF investigation, posted on April 21st:
In an on-the-record briefing, Major General Yoav Har-Even – who investigated the incident – told journalists that the Israeli military maintained that six of the emergency workers were Hamas operatives and said they would later be named.
Now what possible reason could they have for not naming them then, or in the preceding weeks since they initially made the claim, or in the nine days since Har-Even said they would be named later. There is no reason for them not to have done so already of course. I can only assume he was asked by one or more of the journalists what their names are.
It’ll be interesting to see what the IDF come up with, if anything. If they do come up with something, whatEVER it is, it will of course be just MORE nazi-type big lies and deceit and deception.
‘Professional failures’ led to killing of Gaza medics, IDF inquiry says
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c24q6201d8yo
Needless to say, the reason they ambushed and killed the paramedics and first responders was to deter the other paramedics and first responders – ie response teams – from going to locations they’ve bombed etc. The following is from another BBC News article I came across, from April 2nd:
Sam Rose, acting director of Unrwa’s Gaza office, says: “What we know is that fifteen people lost their lives….”
“Certainly all ambulance workers, all medics, all humanitarian workers inside Gaza right now feel increasingly insecure, increasingly fragile,” Mr Rose says.
Survivor challenges Israeli account of attack on Gaza paramedics
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgere1y740o
That, of course, was the objective in murdering and executing them all.
The IDF claimed there was a Hamas ‘figure’ among the medics and responders by the name of Mohammed Amin Shobaki, and yet his body wasn’t found at the location when the bodies were retrieved… Well in the first place, does this person even exist, because if he does (or did), then surely he would be known to Hamas, yet as far as I’m aware, they haven’t said anything one way or the other in relation to him. I mean if he’s actually a real person and he WASN’T killed in the massacre (because he wasn’t there), then he’s presumably still alive, and if that’s the case, why hasn’t anyone said as much.
Yes, we know that the IDF are lying of course, but in an improbable scenario in which they were telling the truth, and this Hamas figure existed and was killed along with everyone else, then given that his body wasn’t found with the other bodies, then he must have been buried in a different location, and the IDF must obviously know where that is, but they haven’t disclosed that information. And why on earth wouldn’t they do that. But why would they bury him in a different location anyway. It doesn’t make sense.
One things for sure – given the points I just made – that if he’s a real person, and not a fictitious character the IDF have invented, he DEFINITELY wasn’t among the crews and, as such, killed by the IDF.
Allan Howard
Despicable how BBC try to cover up the killings of the medics, like it was some “mistake” by Israel to aim and target at the medic staff. The truth is of course that Israel do not give s*it who they kill but since there is a western connection to the deaths in this case Israel try to apologize.
ALready 6 months ago, over 1000 nurses, doctors had been killed by Israel
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/over-1-000-doctors-nurses-killed-in-israeli-attacks-in-gaza-local-authorities-say/3402871
That is compared with 244 killed in Ukraine, a nation with an almost x20 times bigger population compared to Gaza!UN speak of a deliberate/pattern of Hospital/health care destructions by Israel
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/12/pattern-israeli-attacks-gaza-hospitals-raises-grave-concerns-reportStill BBC try to see us that these attacks are just “mistakes” by Israel.
sigh, typos
“Still BBC try to SELL us that these attacks are just “mistakes” by Israel.”
In my 04.55 post this morning I posted a passage from a CNN article and, as I just realised a while ago, I didn’t finish reading the whole article (and had stopped at the point where I copied and pasted the passage I put in my comment), and shortly thereafter crashed out. Please bare in mind that I’ve got dozens of articles up at any one time, and my heads here, there and everywhere. Anyway, I just happened to go back to the CNN article and, in doing so, realised I hadn’t finished it, and there was quite a lot more to read, like the following, under the sub-heading ‘The gasp of death’:
The chain of events began in the early hours of Sunday, March 23, following reports of an Israeli strike in Rafah. The Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS) dispatched an ambulance with three crew members to respond to the scene.
PRCS said they did not coordinate the dispatch with COGAT, the Israeli military agency overseeing activities in the Palestinian territories, because the area was not designated as a “red zone” where coordination is required. Hours after the attack, the IDF designated the area as a “red zone” as part of its expanded operation in Rafah.
According to PRCS medic Munther Abed – who was sitting in the back of the ambulance en route to the scene – the crew was suddenly targeted with heavy, direct gunfire by Israeli forces. Abed said he survived the attack by throwing himself to the floor of the vehicle for cover, hearing the pained yells of his colleagues in the front, both of whom were killed.
“I couldn’t hear anything from my colleagues except the sound of death, the gasp of death, their last breath,” Abed told CNN. “A cry of pain, that’s all I heard from them.”
The ambulance crashed into a power pole, coming to a stop along with the gunfire, according to Abed. He said Israeli soldiers opened the back doors of the vehicle and detained him outside, stripping him down to his underwear.
An Israeli military official said the troops shot at a vehicle at 4 a.m., killing two individuals and detaining another, all of whom the IDF claimed without providing evidence were Hamas security officials. The official also denied that the vehicle was an ambulance or that the individuals were uniformed paramedics….
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/07/middleeast/gaza-aid-workers-killed-audio-intl-invs/index.html
I realise that most people reading this will be familiar with most of the info above, but I haven’t come across the bit about the ambulance crashing into a power pole before, or, what the Israeli military official said. He, or she, claims that all three people in the first ambulance were ‘Hamas security officials’, two of who were killed, and another who was detained. And the military official is obviously referring to Abed – Munther Abed – who the IDF detained and then released sometime later. Munther was the only survivor of course, and needless to say, if they thought and believed that he was a Hamas security official, there is no way on this planet they would have released him later that day. Of course they wouldn’t (and I can’t fathom why they didn’t kill him as well anyway, along with the others – ie why they decided not to kill him, that is).
But what’s weird is that the authors of the article must be quoting something a military official said BEFORE the video footage came to light and hit the headlines…. or were they! I mean the ambulance that ran off the road and crashed into the power pole after the driver and his colleague in the front were shot and killed, can be clearly seen in the video footage taken by one of the crew that turned up a bit later – ie in the video footage that hit the headlines. And then the military official denies that they were uniformed paramedics, which is a bit ambiguous. Does he or she mean that they WEREN’T wearing paramedics uniforms, or do they mean that they were wearing paramedics uniforms and, as such, disguised as paramedics. Well in theory they could of course do the latter, but what would be the point unless you had guns close to hand in the ambulance (and some objective in mind). And we know of course that there were no weapons found by the IDF.
The totally evil psychopathic Israeli elite have of course been lying through their teeth for years that Hamas use ambulances to move around or whatever, so that they can target and murder the occupants.
The last line should read… blah blah blah that Hamas use ambulances to move around in or whatever (during conflicts), so that they….
Louis Theroux – 27 April 2025. This also helps one understand why some Israeli’s are so demented and dangerous.
It’s astonishing, but my comments on youtube are being removed in a matter of a few seconds…. Someone on skwawkbox posted a link earlier to a youtube vid entitled ‘Labour MP Calls For Jeremy Corbyn To Apologise Over Kneecap’, and I replied to one poster quoting some stats from MediaLens, and to another agreeing with what they’d said, and elaborating in relation to it. And it keeps happening, and yet other posters are comparing Israel to the Nazis and such-like, but they aren’t being removed. Needless to say, it doesn’t happen of course when I post a comment about a piece of music, for example, but only when I’m posting about Israel/Gaza, or Ukraine.
YouTube removed all 9/11 videos, including uploads from emergency workers and many survivors a little over a decade ago. The Guardian adopts a similar stance if your comments criticise the official narrative, especially those directed at Israel. The Zionist influence is pervasive and comprehensive in the media and politics – they control the narrative. Understand that and it begins to make sense.
It just occured to me (whilst I was out having a smoke) that I didn’t make my main point in my 23.52 post last night. And my main point was that in the video footage taken by one of the crew that went out to the location about an hour later, you see the ambulance they were looking for off the side of the road to the left. With no lights on! Now until I happened to read an article yesterday, I didn’t know that the ambulance had veered off the road after the driver and his colleague sitting in the front with him were killed by the IDF AND veered off the road and crashed into a power pole, as it was described. Well, to begin with, obviously the driver didn’t turn off the lights – ie the vehicle’s normal lights, and the emergency lights – and it seems highly unlikely that the crash itself led to the lights stopping working, so it must have been the IDF who switched them off. Now the military official didn’t actually claim that all the lights were off as it came along – ie approached the IDF contingent there – but I don’t know if the IDF claimed that was the case in the report of their alledged investigation, because I haven’t managed to find it yet and read it.
Anyway, I just checked out the first part of the video footage, and there is definitely something written on the side of the vehicle that crashed into the power pole, and although it’s not possible to make out what it says, presumably it says something to the effect that it’s a Red Crescent ambulance. Anyway, just to remind you what the Israeli military official said:
An Israeli military official said the troops shot at a vehicle at 4 a.m., killing two individuals and detaining another, all of whom the IDF claimed without providing evidence were Hamas security officials. The official also denied that the vehicle was an ambulance or that the individuals were uniformed paramedics.
What I don’t get – and bear in mind that the passage above is from a CNN article – is why – when the military official denied that the vehicle was an ambulance – the author, or authors putting the article together – didn’t ask him or her what the vehicle was then, if it wasn’t an ambulance. It would be the most obvious thing in the world for a journalist to ask, and yet – or so it would appear – they didn’t. That said, the contingent that were eventually allowed to go out to the location and, as such, recovered the bodies, also recovered the crushed vehicles, and will, as such, have proof that the vehicle in question was clearly marked as an ambulance.
I thought I’d just have another go at trying to find the full – alledged – report by the IDF, and clicked on an a relevant article, but like so many other articles relating to the report that I’ve read, it doesn’t include a link to the report, but it DOES say the following, which is a point I was going to make:
Video footage obtained from the incident shows the ambulances had lights flashing and logos visible as they pulled up to help another ambulance that came under fire earlier. AND that ***The teams do not appear to be acting unusually or in a threatening manner as three medics emerge and head toward it.*** (my ephasis of course)
Exactly!!! And the IDF are of course – as per usual – lying through their nasty mass-murdering rotten teeth that the vehicles were percieved as a threat.
Israeli probe into killing of 15 Palestinian medics finds ‘professional failures’
In my 23.52 post last night – referring to Munther Abed, the sole survivor of the ambush – I said (in brackets) that: ‘I can’t fathom why they didn’t kill him as well anyway, along with the others – ie why they decided not to kill him, that is’, and a possible explanation just occured to me:
Right, so Munther was of course in the back of the ambulance (and dived onto the floor when the IDF started shooting), and shortly thereafter the IDF opened the back door to the ambulance and discovered him there and then detained him. Now I don’t know if he had his mobile phone with him, but it seems unlikely that he wouldn’t have done, and if he DID, then the IDF wouldn’t have known if he’d quickly called someone or other to tell them what was happening prior to them finding him in the back. That, to me, seems, the most likely explanation. Or, wouldn’t have known that possibly someone happened to be on the phone to Munther when the shooting started.
(I’ve never had reason, or thought to do so, but can you delete a record (on your phone) of a phone-call you made, or one you received?)
Ah, so I just this minute did a search re >munther abed gaza< and opened one of the results that came up, and from what it says in the article it appears that he didn’t have a mobile phone with him. This is what it says:
Abed was released in the evening. He was given back his watch and underwear, but not his identity card, paramedic uniform or shoes. He was told to walk towards al-Mawasi, and was eventually able to flag down a passing Red Crescent vehicle.
Also turns out that I was wrong about the lights having been turned off by the IDF after it crashed into the power pole, and in an article I just read, Munther Abed says that all the lights went off when the IDF started shooting. Anyway, this NY Times article came up in the results when I did a search re >munther abed gaza<, so I clicked on it, but it was behind a paywall, but there was a box saying something to the effect of… sign in to your account to read it, and I thought I might have signed up for an account at some point, so I tried sticking in my BT email (which I usually use for such things), and the password that I always use for such things, and I was in and, as such, able to read the whole article. So here it is (posted on April 6th):
Eyewitnesses Recount Deadly Israeli Attack on Medics in Gaza
The New York Times interviewed two people who described being detained by Israeli soldiers and looking on as they opened fire on ambulances and a fire truck, killing 15.
It was still dark out when a group of ambulances and a fire truck dispatched by Palestinian emergency response services slowed to a halt in Rafah, the southernmost city in Gaza, early on March 23. They had been sent to find their paramedic colleagues, who had headed out in an ambulance on a rescue mission earlier that morning before disappearing.
Now the convoy stopped next to the missing ambulance, which stood by the side of the road near some U.N. warehouses. When paramedics got out to look, Israeli soldiers about 50 meters away opened fire on them, according to two men who said they had witnessed the shootings.
The two men saw what happened, they said, because they were being held by the same Israeli troops.
One of the two, Munther Abed, 27, a volunteer paramedic, said he had been detained after surviving an earlier attack on the missing ambulance that killed two other crew members. The other man, Dr. Saeed al-Bardawil, 55, a physician, said he had been detained alongside Mr. Abed when he and his son were stopped by Israeli troops on their way to go fishing about 4:45 a.m.
The New York Times interviewed the two men separately in Gaza days after the United Nations said it had found the bodies of 15 rescue workers — eight from the Palestine Red Crescent Society, six from Gaza’s Civil Defense and one from the United Nations — in a mass grave. Their ambulances, their fire truck and a U.N. vehicle, which had been crushed, were half-buried nearby. The United Nations has accused Israel of killing the 15 workers, discarding their bodies and destroying the vehicles.
The two men’s accounts appear to support those accusations. Although their stories could not be independently confirmed, the details they gave also matched the sequence of events in a video obtained and verified by The New York Times, discovered on the cellphone of one of the dead paramedics. That video shows an intense barrage of gunfire hitting the convoy just as dawn breaks.
“I wasn’t blindfolded — I saw everything clearly,” Dr. al-Bardawil said. “The medics got out to inspect the damaged ambulance. That’s when the soldiers opened heavy fire.”
The video and the witnesses’ accounts contradict the Israeli military’s initial explanation for the attack, which was that its forces had opened fire on the emergency vehicles because they were “advancing suspiciously” without headlights or emergency signals. The video shows that the ambulances and fire truck were clearly marked and flashing their emergency lights. Mr. Abed and Dr. al-Bardawil also said the vehicles’ headlights and emergency signals had been on and that they had stopped when the shooting began.
The killings have drawn international condemnation and scrutiny. On Saturday, an Israeli military official told reporters that the military’s initial version of events had been partly “mistaken.” The military said in a statement on Sunday that the episode was “under thorough examination.”
Speaking anonymously under Israeli military rules, the military official said that Israeli officials believed that at least six of the 15 dead had been Hamas operatives, but did not provide any evidence. The official declined to comment on whether any of those killed had been armed.
Mr. Abed, the paramedic who described the attack, said he had been a volunteer with the Red Crescent in Gaza since 2015, working in his hometown, Rafah. He also owns a bookshop, he said. Red Crescent jobs have been something of a family tradition: his father is a Red Crescent manager; his brother Mohammed, 25, also worked for the humanitarian agency until he was killed in a drone strike in May 2024.
In the predawn hours the day of the attack, Mr. Abed recalled, his ambulance crew was dispatched to help evacuate civilians after an Israeli attack in Rafah.
As they drew nearer, Mr. Abed suddenly heard a barrage of shots hitting the ambulance, he said. Everything died instantly: the interior lights, the siren, the engine. Then he heard a sound he knew from experience — a death rattle, he called it — coming from his two colleagues in the front. One was a fellow paramedic, Ezzedine Shaath, and the other was the driver, Mostafa Khafaja.
Outside the ambulance, he could hear people speaking Hebrew, he said. Certain he was about to die, Mr. Abed began reciting the Shahada, a Muslim declaration of faith.
Then Israeli soldiers opened the door, and someone ordered him to strip naked and kneel, Mr. Abed said. The soldiers began hitting him on the back with the butts of their rifles, he said. They spit on him, cursed him and questioned him, he said, asking where he was on Oct. 7, 2023, the date of the Hamas-led attack on Israel that ignited the war.
“You’re a terrorist — why are you here?” one soldier shouted, Mr. Abed recalled.
Mr. Abed said they pushed him backward and pressed a rifle into his neck so hard he thought he might suffocate. One soldier held a knife just next to his wrist, he said.
The Israeli military official said that soldiers had killed two Hamas operatives and detained a third from the initial ambulance. He did not explain why, if Mr. Abed was an operative, he was later released.
Shortly after Mr. Abed was detained, two new people joined him in handcuffs: Dr. al-Bardawil, a general practitioner, and his 12-year-old son, Mohammed, who were stopped by soldiers as they headed to the beach to fish, which Dr. al-Bardawil loved to do.
Whenever a car approached, Dr. al-Bardawil recalled, the Israeli soldiers lay flat on the ground and ordered the detainees to follow suit. The soldiers did not fire at any of those vehicles, he said.
Soon after the al-Bardawils were detained, Dr. al-Bardawil and Mr. Abed said, the men saw emergency vehicles approaching. Mr. Abed recognized a fire truck and an ambulance from Gaza’s Civil Defense.
An Israeli officer was talking to soldiers in Hebrew nearby, Mr. Abed said, and as soon as he finished speaking, the soldiers opened fire on the vehicles. The shooting lasted for several minutes, he said.
As more red emergency lights approached, Mr. Abed was told to move to a place where his view was blocked — and then heard more gunfire, he said. Dr. al-Bardawil, who described still having a direct sightline, said the Israelis had been firing at oncoming ambulances.
As the sun rose, around 20 Israeli tanks and around 100 Israeli soldiers arrived on the scene, Mr. Abed said, and dug four large holes in the ground. Satellite images from this time obtained by The Times showed the four ambulances and Civil Defense truck clumped together toward the side of the road, next to where they were later buried. Three bulldozers, an excavator and Israeli tanks were nearby.
When it was fully light, he said, he saw an Israeli bulldozer, which he identified as a Caterpillar D9, crushing five ambulances and the fire truck and pushing them into one of the holes. He also saw a crumpled U.N. vehicle, he said. Dr. al-Bardawil said he witnessed the bulldozer plowing the bodies into the ground along with the vehicles.
The Israeli military officer said that the soldiers had buried the bodies to protect them from wild animals and that they had used heavy equipment to push the vehicles to clear the road.
Mr. Abed said he was relieved when the Israelis brought another Red Crescent paramedic, Asaad al-Nasasra, still alive, over to the group of detainees. In handcuffs and a blindfold, Mr. al-Nasasra whispered to him what he knew about their colleagues, Mr. Abed recalled.
Two looked wounded, one of them seriously, he said Mr. al-Nasasra told him. And last he had seen them, Mr. al-Nasasra recalled, two others were reciting the Shahada.
One Israeli soldier sounded triumphant when Mr. Abed asked about the other ambulance workers, he recalled. “Your colleagues — all of them are gone!” he told him, mockingly, in broken Arabic, the paramedic said.
“May God have mercy on their souls,” Mr. Abed recalled replying.
Another soldier told him, also in broken Arabic, that God had taken “those terrorists” to hell.
Eventually, the soldiers led Mr. al-Nasasra, the other paramedic, away. He is still missing, according to the Red Crescent.
That afternoon, Dr. al-Bardawil and Mr. Abed said they were asked to help the soldiers by telling a large group of civilians who had gathered in the area to evacuate the area. After they did so, they were released, they said.
Hurrying away, Mr. Abed left his jacket, ID card and bank card behind.
His parents had been panicking since they heard about the attacks.
“Reassure me you’re OK, dear son,” his mother, Somaya Abed, 49, had texted him at 7:52 a.m. that day, according to a message she showed a New York Times reporter.
There was no reply until Mr. Abed was released around 4 p.m. He called his father right away.
“I’m finally out and safe,” the younger Mr. Abed said.
But after hours of repeated beatings, he could barely walk, he said. A Red Crescent vehicle had to bring him home.
Oh my gawd!. I just read through the NY Times article again after I posted it, and suddenly twigged something that I obviously read the first time, but didn’t take in, something that says in effect that Munther DID have his mobile phone with him. It’s right at the end of the article:
Hurrying away, Mr. Abed left his jacket, ID card and bank card behind.
His parents had been panicking since they heard about the attacks.
“Reassure me you’re OK, dear son,” his mother, Somaya Abed, 49, had texted him at 7:52 a.m. that day, according to a message she showed a New York Times reporter.
There was no reply until Mr. Abed was released around 4 p.m. He called his father right away.
“I’m finally out and safe,” the younger Mr. Abed said.
I mean how totally weird is THAT, that the article should end by in effect telling me the info I was looking for. I need a drink (only I don’t ruddy well drink!)
PS Mod, I did in fact put the em bit at the start of the NY Times article, but forgot to put the em close bit at the end. Sorry about that.
Correction: At the beginning of the last comment I posted I said that I had just read through the NY Times article again after posting it on here, but it occured to me about ten minutes later when I was rolling a ciggy and making a coffee that I couldn’t have done, and that I just skimmed through it, looking for something it said in the article, stopping here and there to see if it was in that bit. The thing is that I couldn’t remember what an earth it was, but knew that I’d know if and when I saw it again, which I didn’t. But then I remembered what it was as I was rolling a ciggy…. So this is the bit:
The Israeli military official said that soldiers had killed two Hamas operatives and detained a third from the initial ambulance. He did not explain why, if Mr. Abed was an operative, he was later released.
Yerse, that’s exactly what I said in a comment at some point in the distant past… yesterday if I remember correctly.
And there was also the following bit that, truth be told, I’d forgotten about until I just now came across it again whilst looking for the first bit:
Speaking anonymously under Israeli military rules, the military official said that Israeli officials believed that at least six of the 15 dead had been Hamas operatives, but did not provide any evidence. The official declined to comment on whether any of those killed had been armed.
Hmm, I wonder why the official declined. Oh, right, because they WEREN’T! Needless to say – although I’ve said it before – if any – or all – of the six people the IDF claim were Hamas operatives were armed, the IDF would have said so at the outset of course, but they didn’t, and THAT tells us all we need to know (even though we knew it already!) – ie that the IDF are lying through their teeth, and of course none of them were Hamas so-called operatives. The point being that anyone thinking it through just a tad would realise and know that there is no way on this planet that Hamas would go anywhere unarmed. In other words, by asking the question, they put the anonymous military official in a bind, a bind, in effect, that gave the journalists the answer. Or, I should say, confirmed what they had already concluded some time before (when the IDF claimed that there were Hamas operatives among the rescue teams, but didn’t mention that they had retrieved weapons at the scene).
shibboleth
The Zionist influence is pervasive and comprehensive in the media and politics – they control the narrative. Understand that and it begins to make sense.
Yes just take the movies, how many movies is there not about evil rabid, ragtag muslim/arab terrorists and/or an overall negative stereotypical portrayal of the same group? How many movies is there that depict jews or zionists in the same stereotypical manner? I cannot come up with 1 single one.
Reel Bad Arabs: How Hollywood Vilifies a People is a documentary film directed by Sut Jhally and produced by Media Education Foundation in 2006. This film is an extension of the book of the same name by Jack Shaheen, which also analyzes how Hollywood corrupts or manipulates the image of Arabs. The documentary analyzes 1,000 films that have Arab and Muslim characters, produced between 1896 and 2000, out of which great majority, 936 titles, were negative in their portrayal, arguing that the slander of Arabs in American filmmaking has existed since the early days of the silent cinema and is present in the biggest Hollywood blockbusters today
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reel_Bad_Arabs
Who could have the interest in depicting arabs/muslims/palestinians in a bad light? Who could that be huh?
Same with other topics. The west often (and rightly) talk about the threat from white supremacism and/or the bad traits of radical islamism for example, but one are not to talk about the bad traits of zionism or about jewish supremacism.
