The Russians call it Kompromat – the use by the state of sexual accusations to destroy a public figure. When I was attacked in this way by the government I worked for, Uzbek dissidents smiled at me, shook their heads and said “Kompromat“. They were used to it from the Soviet and Uzbek governments. They found it rather amusing to find that Western governments did it too.
Well, Julian Assange has been getting the bog standard Kompromat. I had imagined he would get something rather more spectacular, like being framed for murder and found hanging with an orange in his mouth. He deserves a better class of kompromat. If I am a whistleblower, then Julian is a veritable mighty pipe organ. Yet we just have the normal sex stuff, and very weak.
Bizarrely the offence for which Julian is wanted for questioning in Sweden was dropped from rape to sexual harassment, and then from sexual harassment to just harassment. The precise law in Swedish, as translated for me and other Sam Adams alumni by our colleague Major Frank Grevil, reads:
“He who lays hands on or by means of shooting from a firearm, throwing of stones, noise or in any other way harasses another person will be sentenced for harassment to fines or imprisonment for up to one year.”
So from rape to non-sexual something. Actually I rather like that law – if we had it here, I could have had Jack Straw locked up for a year.
Julian tells us that the first woman accuser and prime mover had worked in the Swedish Embassy in Washington DC and had been expelled from Cuba for anti-Cuban government activity, as well as the rather different persona of being a feminist lesbian who owns lesbian night clubs.
Scott Ritter and I are well known whistleblowers subsequently accused of sexual offences. A less well known whistleblower is James Cameron, another FCO employee. Almost simultaneous with my case, a number of the sexual allegations the FCO made against Cameron were identical even in wording to those the FCO initially threw at me.
Another fascinating point about kompromat is that being cleared of the allegations – as happens in virtually every case – doesn’t help, as the blackening of reputation has taken effect. In my own case I was formerly cleared of all allegations of both misconduct and gross misconduct, except for the Kafkaesque charge of having told defence witnesses of the existence of the allegations. The allegations were officially a state secret, even though it was the government who leaked them to the tabloids.
Yet, even to this day, the FCO has refused to acknowledge in public that I was in fact cleared of all charges. This is even true of the new government. A letter I wrote for my MP to pass to William Hague, complaining that the FCO was obscuring the fact that I was cleared on all charges, received a reply from a junior Conservative minister stating that the allegations were serious and had needed to be properly investigated – but still failing to acknowledge the result of the process. Nor has there been any official revelation of who originated these “serious allegations”.
Governments operate in the blackest of ways, especially when it comes to big war money and big oil money. I can see what they are doing to Julian Assange, I know what they did to me and others (another recent example – Brigadier Janis Karpinski was framed for shoplifting). In a very real sense, it makes little difference if they murdered David Kelly or terrified him into doing it himself. Telling the truth is hazardous in today’s Western political system.
Actually, Abe, I agree with your points 1) and 2) and I sense yet again that you’re a thoroughly civilised person (at the risk of sounding like Hughie Green, I mean that sincerely), though needless to say I don’t agree with your conclusion!
Hi there Suhayl – yes, not bad thanks. I didn’t get as far into that novel as hoped, though. Don’t even know who Joseph is yet, but don’t give it away.
Abe – countries like Cuba, particularly like Cuba in fact, have been so thoroughly victimised by the very powerful bully to its north, that it’s impossible to see it in isolation. Had it not been for that malignant influence, we would no doubt see an entirely different type of country flourish.
As it is, particularly given the massive blockade unprecedented in the history of the world, it is struggling. But the people struggle together. There are no multi-billionaires, but also nobody starving or without very good health/dental care etc., free access to excellent education and basic needs met.
“Godless” you say? Wth, Abe? Why do you think it’s necessary to introduce sky-spook delusions into a political apparatus? If people want to waste time and energy bowing to the Sun, ancient Greek gods, cloud-beings or whatever, they’re welcome to do so in Cuba. There are plenty of rather impressive churches about the place.
The human rights record is not perfect, but then neither is ours, and particularly not that of the US. And if you start to compare it with our good friends in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Israel etc. etc., your singling out of Cuba for complaint makes no sense at all.
How many countries has Cuba invaded (apart from with doctors or aid), bombed or threatened? When did it ever export or encourage terrorism, even though it’s been a very regular victim of terrorism from the US.
If you want to see what a Cuba without Castro would look like, take a good hard look at Haiti next door.
“If you want to see what a Cuba without Castro would look like, take a good hard look at Haiti next door.”
Hah! Ignore every other Caribbean example, and just pick the nation with the most trouble historically. You do know the DR occupies the same island, right?
What an insult you make against the Cubans for stating that they never would have survived without Castro.
Has anyone been on a hunger strike in the U.S. lately?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100822/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_cuba_dissident_march
Clark,
Re: “a whistleblower could use the method that you outline to upload to WikiLeaks.”
Yes, with suitable precaution, Wikileaks might be one destination — among others, for leaked info. But to make Wikileaks a sole destination would in my view be rash.
Re: “The main advantage of leaking to WikiLeaks is that they will publish it on their system where it can’t be censored. It will be displayed where many people, including journalists, look for sensitive information.”
But my contention is that Wikileaks may not publish a genuine leak with implications for the security state, but merely pass it to a security service that might seek to take care of the leaker.
Does Wikileaks not demand the identity of the leaker? I mean, they don’t want to be spoofed do they.
I do not see, therefore, how a prospective leaker could be sure, or would be wise to assume, that Wikileaks is what it purports to be.
Re: “Of course, you do not know that I’m not working for the CIA etc.”
Any more than you can know that I am working for the CIA. So why did you raise the issue? It suggests a rather wild attempt at a smear.
Re: “However, I am contactable via my link, and I am open to scrutiny.”
Well you post a link somewhere on the Web. But if we’re talking real spooks, I think such a link does not mean much: not that I intend to imply deceit on your part, but merely to show that this kind of validation is questionable.
What I would say is that we should judge one another’s comments according to their logic and factual content.
Likewise, I suggest that people, particularly prospective leakers, would be wise to judge Julian Assange and Wikileaks on strictly rational grounds, not according to whether Assange won a medal or has been smeared by a Swedish lesbian.
Glenn: “your singling out of Cuba for complaint makes no sense at all.” I don’t single out Cuba. Human rights abuses in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Israel and Abu Ghraib are to be condemned as much as in Cuba. Perhaps more in Israel and the West because their practice ought to live up to their proclaimed principles. And there’s genuine freedom to criticise the government in the West. Which is why life in the USA for most people is better than in Cuba. Which is precisely why Cubans flee North more often than the other way round. So that they don’t have to ‘struggle together’ under a misconceived repressive regime, but be free to build a good life!
Suhayl: your kind compliment is much appreciated, thank you. Maybe you should visit Cuba one day, so you can tell us first hand what kind of a place it is.
That reminds me of a story of the Soviet Union. I’m not sure whether I read it in Solzhenitsyn or John Barron. The USSR were trying to get immigrants who were valuable as labourers. Three of them made a pact with their parents: they would send back a photograph. If things were fine, they would be standing up. If not, they would be sitting. The photograph showed these new citizens of the workers’ paradise lying on the floor. Behold the wonders of Communism!
TM,
you suggest, and yet provided precisely zero evidence, that WikiLeaks would (a) sell out whistleblowers and (b) fail to publish. You also call WikiLeaks a multimillion dollar concern – again no evidence – though I thought they were short of money.
You say that whistleblowers should choose rationally, but you seem pretty keen on the smear tactics yourself.
My link includes an e-mail address, through which I am contactable. That is not meaningless, it is the first link in a chain by which you could verify my identity and character, should you so choose.
Glenn,
welcome back!
Abe Rene,
I haven’t visited Cuba either, but I had a girlfriend who was considering moving there. Maybe one reason that more people wish to leave Cuba than move there is that people move to places of greater wealth.
I grew up ‘knowing’ that the Sun never shone in the USSR, where everyone was permanently miserable. Now, of course, I realise that this impression came from Cold War propaganda. When Russians started coming to Britain in the ’90s, I was surprised to discover that the Russian ‘phone system was free to use, as were the swimming pools. Swimming pools! My impressions of the USSR certainly didn’t include swimming pools!
My point is not that these places are better than the UK or the US, but that we are presented with an unduly negative image of them. I don’t think that this is government propaganda so much as commercial propaganda.
Yes, some of the prisoners at Abu Ghraib went on hunger strike. There was also that Al Jazeera journalist, Sami al Hajj – see link below. And does anyone remember the IRA prisoners who died on hunger strike in the UK in the 1980s? So yes, there have been, and are, hunger-strikers in various countries. It’s a tactic used not uncommonly among especially political prisoners, in fact, to seek better conditions or whatever.
Cuba under the USA was a Mafia island. It would still be a Mafia island is the Cuban Revolution hadn’t happened.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_al-Hajj
Abe, with all respect your point is incredibly simplistic. Of course some Cubans want to flee their country rather than the other way around, precisely because of the economic hardship caused by the blockade. I’m sorry you can’t see past that.
Isn’t it odd to you that any Cuban making it to the Florida shore automatically becomes a US citizen, while a starving Haitian in a leaking wreck of a boat is turned back?
How many other peoples become a US citizen automatically, by dint of just showing up without prior permission? So the enticement is blatantly obvious.
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But you didn’t ask me a question about Cuba – I thought you wanted to know something about it from someone who was familiar with the country. Perhaps it takes someone of Suhayl’s eloquence to do it justice for you?
Ironically, our resident teabagger isn’t at liberty to tell us what it is like even if he wanted to. Because he is forbidden by the US government from going there.
Clark: Thanks! And we certainly got the glowing reports about how dandy the US was compared with anywhere else, as a counterpoint to the dark, dismal Russian empire (in which it always snowed, even indoors, as I recall).
Having traveled extensively in both countries, it’s clear to me that poverty – in parts – was more intense in America than anywhere in Cuba. And the disparity between the wealthy and the poor was orders of magnitude greater in the US.
“How many other peoples become a US citizen automatically, by dint of just showing up without prior permission?”
Since when ?
glenn,
Welcome back!
somebody,
Good post at 9.06am your contributions are indeed becoming more powerful.
Cuba has developed a unique cooperation with Iran based on trust and mutual respect. This trust and economic relations is a blueprint that Britain can use to develop her relations with Iran, moving away from conflict and restoring a balance desperately needed to unite East with West.
Cuba supports Iran’s program to develop nuclear technology for PEACEFUL purposes and both countries agreed to work towards the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons.
Former President of Cuba Fidel Castro spoke admiringly of Iran “increasing its ability to confront the big powers by the day.”
Iran has given Cuba ‘a credit line’ to improve it’s infrastructure and there exists lucrative contracts that Iran lacks in skills which Britain could demonstratively fulfil which would provide revenue for a declining manufacturing base, improve our trade balance and reduce the colossal debt incurred supporting America in her imperial campaigns.
We have to change or die, instead of trying to wipe out our adversaries as we did under Blair, now is the time for Britain to show leadership and start building the framework of a united world.
Comrades – you asked what my experience was of Cuba. Thank you, I’m very glad you asked. Almost as soon as you arrive, you get the impression that this is a special place. it’s not just that things are rather run down (which they are), or that there’s a lack of modern technology on display. Things are often shabby, but the people are not. There is a pride about them, and – dare I say it – a solidarity which I’ve never found anywhere else.
It’s about the safest place in the world. There is traffic, but it’s not reckless, and there is not a disregard for pedestrians/ cyclists. A part-time travelling companion was a single lady in her late thirties. She had travelled between towns, having not making any plans in advance. When it was time to leave, they asked if she wanted a contact in the next town – if not, fine. No pressure, and no sense of being in danger.
It’s not often one can appear as a tourist in the back-streets of any major city and feel no hostility, or hungry eyes at your back. The most hassle I received was a furtive offer of cigars – there were quite a number of such offers. A polite refusal would suffice, every time.
There is no advertising. It takes a little while for that to sink in – no billboards, no exhortations to enhance your life or fill the void with this or that product or drink. There are billboards promoting the revolution, praising the workers, and reminding one of the importance of the struggle.
Co-workers greeted each other with such affection, we mistook them for lovers or close family members before realising that this is just how they get along. Strangers are quick to co-orporate if there is a problem, beyond the somewhat enforced assistance that the police encourage when it comes to car-pooling.
The education level among the most ordinary of people appears uncommonly high. Teeth were of a higher standard than one might find outside Beverley Hills. People generally looked fit, far more so than in the UK/US, and had a genuine sense of pride in their country and what it had accomplished. Not the belligerent, swaggering nationalism one finds all too often in the US and sometimes the UK, nor the rather aloof superiority often found (quite justifiably, actually) in northern Europe.
Racism appeared entirely absent. There was no discrimination that I could discern in play anywhere. Perhaps this was because races mixes so freely – it was not uncommon to find an individual having entirely dark skin, but with strikingly green eyes.
The cars are amazing if one has a fondness for 1950s vintage American automobiles. These are family heirlooms, and no inconsiderable ingenuity has been applied to their upkeep. The same is true for everything else – the Blockade is a way of life, and has been for generations. Music is a passion, and there’s little to match the enthusiasm of Cuban musicians when they get going. Anyone making a visit should pack their bags with spares for instruments (guitar strings in particular, classic and acoustic), and if you bring strings for the double bass too, you will have friends for life. Let me know if you’re visiting, and I can provide advice on what’s needed.
It’s all the little things that they lack, but which make life so much easier for us. Tampons, make-up and electric pick-ups. Pens, baseballs, tennis rackets. Baseball caps, toothbrushes, western clothes. Ask them what they need, and they’ll tell you with a hearty laugh and a shrug, “Everything!” The much bigger things, which some of us lack greatly in the west, are available – electricity, clean water and heat is not a problem. Health care and education is not a problem. Dental care, basic food needs and crime, too, are not problems.
Possibly most striking is the fact that Cubans are generally extremely well informed about world politics, and with the odd exception have pride in their country and genuine affection for Castro. Some expressed regret for not being able to leave, but understood that if those able to make a life elsewhere were to all leave, then the country would be lost. If there were no embargo, as many people would arrive as leave, as they became more prosperous. It was also striking that Cubans hold no hatred to Americans for their situation because of the Blockade, nor against Americans for not liking them. They understood that Americans are terribly misinformed, and huge numbers of Americans have deep problems themselves caused by their own government. They understand that the US administration is the problem, not the people. Perhaps this enlightenment is because of their absence of racism.
Perhaps the most striking of all, beyond the people, was the sheer natural beauty of Cuba. An explosion of sounds, smells, sights and the feel of warm sun, pure air, gave me the most accurate approximation of what I’d imagined, as a child, to be paradise. Given the farming is nearly all organic now, the food actually tastes as it should (as God intended, if you will).
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There are police about, but the police at home were far more intimidating as far as I was concerned. When meeting with a group of Cubans, one would occasionally swing by, my impression was to make sure I was ok, rather than looking for a reason to cause trouble. One could stroll around at night without seeing a police presence, and without feeling intimidated. (The sense that one _should_ feel intimidated has picked up for me aplenty in numerous places around the world, but never here.)
That’s probably enough rambling about Cuba for now. Let me know if there’s something specific, and I’ll do my best to relate what I gleaned there. I would advise those in free countries where one is allowed to see for themselves what a socialist country can manage to give to its people, on maybe 5% of US per capita income. It is striking, that the basics can all be met with so little, when fairly distributed. No millionaires or billionaires produced in the process, but it can be done. If another 5%, 10%, 50% were put on top of that, we should be living in utopia ourselves. Little wonder the US just cannot abide such a terrible threat to the American fantasy.
Glenn: “But you didn’t ask me a question about Cuba?”
My message of 8.27 pm, 1 September said: “I would still be interested to learn about Glenn’s experiences.”
“Of course some Cubans want to flee their country .. because of the economic hardship caused by the blockade. I’m sorry you can’t see past that.”
People wanting to flee poverty and repression for freedom and prosperity? There’s enough to see right there. Good luck to those who escape.
Your account is similar to that of Paul Robeson who described the Soviet Union in the 1930s in glowing terms such as yours. He was duped.
As a visiting Comrade (as witness your greeting), of course you have seen Cuba through rose-tinted glasses and been treated well, as was Robeson. Your fellow Comrades (including the ‘co-workers’)in Cuba would speak well of the system. But secret police would have followed you everywhere at a discreet distance. No one with any sense would say anything against the regime, since after you left, they would have had to bear serious consequences. Expressing regrets at not being able to leave but dutifully qualifying their statement would be as far as they could safely go. You can bet they’ll be on the escape boats first chance they get.
Fortunately Castro is visibly losing his marbles, thinking that Osama Bin Laden is an agent of the CIA, so Communism in Cuba will probably collapse before children born there now there have reached the age of majority, and possibly much sooner. Then indeed, we may see a large Southward migration – to a free state, not a dictatorship!
Sure, Abe. A free state, just like Haiti.
Haiti has harmed itself with Voodoo, for example the Bois Caman ceremony:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bois_Ca%C3%AFman
The people should wholeheartedly repent and burn all articles associated with their black magic.
Abe Rene wanted a view of Cuba from someone who has visted. He gets a really good factual and interesting one from Glenn but continues the attempt (failed!) to demonize the three ‘Cs’, Cuba, Castro and Communism.
The old game of tricks.
For anybody who’s interested in impressions of Cuba, rather than the merits of their favourite ideology, I’d recommend (again, but I think I was anon. last time) Dervla Murphy’s “The Island That Dared”.
She has a nicely straightforward & idiosyncratic way of doing these things – decide where to go, write about what it’s like getting there; on arrival, find somewhere to drink beer, get into conversation with people, write about the conversations. Much opinion, very little bullshit.
I think I agree most with Suhayl, that the best comparison is not with other places having different histories, it’s with wondering what it would be like by now had Batista and his ilk continued.
somebody at September 2, 2010 12:26 PM:
I haven’t denied that Glenn’s account was interesting, apart from its political sympathies. Real people, including Cubans, are interesting in their own right. The same applies, for example, to Michael Moore’s account (in his film Sicko) of a group of Americans who were given medical treatment gratis in Havana – a genuine humanitarian gesture. Or the very interesting book “Justice in Moscow” by George Feifer. All this does not alter my disdain for Communism and esteem for democracy. In my view, once the Castro brothers have passed on, the USA should consider lifting sanctions against Cuba to encourage the new politburo to democratise the country.
PS. Re-reading Glenn’s article: I regret that, thanks to our previous debate, I didn’t sufficiently appreciate it as an article. I now apologise and try to put that right.
Apart from its rather obvious left-wing sympathies, this is a well-written piece, filled with small but interesting observations, for example the quality of people’s teeth. IMO, it might go well in a travel book or magazine, if a determined attempt were made to remove political polemic. I would encourage the author to try doing that. He might also include meetings with dissidents, if these occurred.
Abe – that’s very kind of you to say so. And I did notice before writing it that you had indeed asked me to provide some feedback on my experience there, so had Suhayl, so that’s what I did. It wasn’t really supposed to be an attempt to justify the regime, although perhaps I did do so to some extent, but rather give my personal ‘take’ on what I’ve found, over several visits. I could probably rant on all day about Cuba, I find it the most fascinating place.
Does anyone rmmebr Beslan tragidy in which so many children perishes and whose amstermind was being protected byt he british govt ?
this is 6th anniversary of beslan tragidy . if usa can destroy afgansitan and iraq on flimsest of evidence for 9/11 then Russia is jsutified in eliminating england as any serious pwoer player fromt eh world for its support of chechan terrorists so that this scumbag of a country pirate england never dare spread terorism the world over again.
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october, 2002.
So according the the Guardian editorial on 2nd of Decemebr 2002 The british should try to topple, if they could have the power, the persons like daddam hussain, Dr. M. mahathir of malasia. Mr. Mugabe of Zimbawe, and Mr. Jacque Ciraque Of france. All of these people have one thinmg in common-they have all challneged the english bastardy and bully tactics . In fact their oppesition ot english intersts must make them heroes for the rest of world becasue entglish are the curse of this world and are real pestilence which should ebe eliminated. Remmeber when israel had bombed Iraques nuclear reactor in summer of 1981 days befor it going critical then it was the english media and their stooge english media who wre doing anti israeli propaganda along with Iraq-ofcourse at that time english thought that the only way to get ARAB MONEY WAS BY LICKING ARAB’S ARSE.- when america is kicking that arse then english like a hyena-that they are-have joined them. In fact english are actively sabotaging and spying european trade secrets-english are enemies not only of coloured population of the world but all other whites of Europe and of even america-english infiltration inside america has ensured that america foreign policy and even domestic policy is run for english benefit and small number of anglosaxonx(who are basically plumber class in america just like in england)-english is a race of pirates turned blumbers)That is why english have infiltrated media and hollywpood and are boring the rest of the world with their rubbish actors and actreess-who are more of whores than anything-that too ugly english whore. That is why though england does not produce anything worthwhile-may be infected beef?-it is still not under recession while japan .far east and whiole of europe has been made to live in prolonged recession by the english manipulation of stock market world bank and all unproductive financial transations.
The French prseident is right is demanding that britain give back to E. U. what it has been taking
unfairly for so long. After all it was never entitled to those money . Besides it has n=been britain who has been vociferous in wanting the enlargement of europe. The prupose why england wanted enlargement was basically to derail european integration and create a rift amonst partner states so that wiht the hepl of america braitain can As a pet dog of super=power(but never a power in itself though
propaganda would be about engand being some sort of power) this rubbish thirld rate country would terrorize and hopefully rule_as american proxy over other countries outside europe. In opther word england is harbouring an ambition of proxy empire(with american help_If it could do on its own then it owuld not have cared for america). tHAT ABITION OF enGLAND MUST BE CRUSHED.
eUROPE SHOULD DEMAND NOT ONLY MONEY BACK ABUT IF POSSIBLE SHOULD KICK ENGLAND OUT OF E.U.
eNGLAND IS ENNEMY OF NOT ONLY EUROPE BUT ALOS THE ALL OF THIRLD WORLD AND EVEN AMEIRCA. LOOK HOW RUBBISH ENGLISH PLUMBERS AND FOOTBALERSLAND UP SUSHY JOB IN HOLLYWOOD WHILE THE REST OF WORLD HAS TO GET VISA TO ENTER AMERICA AND WHILE MOST OF AMERICANS(WHO ARE NOT DESCENENDETS OF ANGLOSAXONS) HAVE TO FACE DISCRIMINATION.).
tHE SOONER THE WORLD REALIZE THIS AXIS OF EVIL(ENGLAND AND ANGLOSAXONS RACE) THAT SOONER IT CAN THWART THE EVIL DESIGN OF THIS ENGLISH-PIRATE TURNED SHOPKEEPRES TURNES PLUMBERS RACE).
25th october 2002
On the day chechnyan terrorists tokk hostage of 500 civilains in
A Moscow theatre, The headline of BBC was not about that but about sharp shooter terrorist being suppsedly caught in washington> In fact theis chechnyian news was fifth in item(including head line) . These days atlast the british media even say about chechnyian terrorist as terrorist otherwise 2 years ago they were always calling them freedom fighters(which they are -but that is another story). In fact the british media and england as a country had been actively supporting and giving material help to checnyaina terrorists9aided by cia and british spy and british media aswell).
If you lok at the report of british media then you realize the british involvemnt in terrorism by the chechnyian terrorists. When three multistory falts were wiped pout by terrorist in central Moscow a few years ago there was a gleee in british reprting and a criticism of later security arrangemnt by Russian forces in Moscow. ofcourse the british media would have been horrified and bar=king like a dog(which they are) if the Russians had decided to destory checknian civilians as the americans did in afganistan. Then you realize the humbug of british propaganda against terrorism-it is selective and meant to facilitate british infiltration in other countries, In fact the afganistan govet(after fall of Taliban) was oppsed to british tyroops (after all americans fought -what have british got?)presence in afgansitan-but armtwisting by british through american help ensures that rbtitish troops are there in afgansitan0they are forgeing infioltrators and thus should be eliminated(they have less legal reason to be in afgansitan than the soviets who had been primarily invited by the govt, of the day). the british involvemtn in international terrorism is not confined to agasnt Russian interset only.
When the kashmiris killed several Indian soldiers(regular phenomenon) the british paper(independent) blamed India for being a target of terrrism and not talking enough with what it called freedom fighters.(terminology changes according to british interts). Infact during the 80s when India was really relatively stable and srtongatlest the govet, was) then the british decided to destabilize India by sponsoring Sikh terrorismand taliban terorism aswell(agasnt INDIA AND AFGANSITAN). It is only when India has virtually been subjugated to look after british and american interst in economics and (with rteal weakening of india as military power) that the british decided to take supprt for terrrism somewhere else.
The whole world is being put under sieze by theis thrird rate power-england-a nation of plumbers(graduation from a nation of pirates turned shopkeepers) The modus operandi of english is by propaganda and spying through british media-paper, bbc and television-they have infiltrated american media and holly wood and are taking jobs from real americans too, They are real enemy of europe and are the main peple respnisnble for truning nations into thrild world and putting them down to status of thrirld world. Look ate how they destryed japansesw economy through manipulative stock market-while their market never crashes and their low life living in factory turned apartmnets-so ugly-never gets busted.
The world has to rise against this anglosaxon who are waging race war agasint all non anglosaxonas -, That evil can be defeated and eliminated -only people have to recognize real enemyaand then eliminate them.
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“starroute said…
I also noticed that reference in the French documents to Chechen rebels — and what it immediately reminded me of was not Feith’s and Perle’s adventures, but Peter Dale Scott’s “The Global Drug Meta-Group.”
I’ve never felt I’ve fully understood Scott’s article, bit as a result I get something new out of it every time I look at it. In this case, what jumped out at me was these paragraphs:
(The goal of splitting up Russia attributed here to Surikov is that which, in an earlier text co-authored by Surikov, is attributed by Russian “radicals” to the United States:
The radicals believe that the US actively utilizes Turkish and Muslim elements….From Azerbaijan, radicals foresee a strategic penetration which would irrevocably split the Federation. US influence would be distributed to the former Soviet Central Asian Republics, to Chechnya and the other North Caucasus Muslim autonomous republics of T[at]arstan and Bashkortostan. As a result Russian territorial integrity would be irreparably compromised.) . . .
In my conclusion I shall return to the possibility that U.S. government might share common goals with Hizb ut-Tahrir and the meta-group in Russia, even while combating the Islamist terrorism of al-Qaeda in the Middle East and the West.
Most major media outlets have spelled out with a profusion of details the “exact” events that led to the death of what some claim to have been hundreds of people in the eastern Uzbekistan town of Andijan on May 13. Led by British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, the world media condemned much-maligned Uzbekistan President Islam Karimov for yet another bloody and ruthless suppression of “public dissent”. Yet, all the details so far provided do not explain who the real players were or their end objectives.
It is certain, however, that the puzzle cannot be solved unless the London factor is understood. The answers lie in London, Birmingham, Bradford and Liverpool. The old British colonial establishment, with former intelligence officer Bernard Lewis as its mentor, appears to have set in motion a series of events that will bring endless bloodshed to Central Asia. London’s objective would appear to be to keep both China and Russia under an open-ended threat. At this point, there is no one who can better serve this “Lewis Doctrine” than Muslims nurtured in Britain – the Hizbut-Tehrir (HT). . . .
Apart from various Islamic preachers, two major Islamic groups function in the Ferghana Valley, whose common objective is to change the regimes in Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Kazakhstan. These are the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU) and the HT. While the IMU openly thrives on violence, the HT is strongly promoted by the United Kingdom, where it is headquartered, as peaceful. But records indicate that that the IMU and the HT work hand-in-hand. Most of the IMU recruits are from the HT, according to Rohan Gunaratna, an expert on world terrorist outfits. Gunaratna claims that Khaled Sheikh Muhammad, the alleged mastermind of the September 11, 2001, terror attacks in the US, and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian of Chechen origin who has remained active in the Iraqi insurgency against the US occupying forces, were both once members of the HT. . . .
The West’s policy – in other words, the policy of the Anglo-Americans, as the European Union does not have a policy worth citing – toward the Middle East has long been formulated by Bernard Lewis. The British-born Lewis started his career as an intelligence officer and has remained in bed with British intelligence ever since. Avowedly anti-Russia and pro-Israel, Lewis reaped a rich harvest among US academia and policymakers. He brought president Jimmy Carter’s virulently anti-Russian National Security Council chief, Zbigniew Brzezinski, into his fold in the 1980s, and made the US neo-conservatives, led by Vice President Dick Cheney, dance to his tune on the Middle East in 2001. In between, he penned dozens of books and was taken seriously by people as a historian. But, in fact, Lewis is what he always was: a British intelligence officer. . . .
The recent developments in Uzbekistan have all the hallmarks of the same process. This time the objective is to weaken China, Russia, and possibly India, using the HT to unleash the dogs of war in Central Asia. It is not difficult for those on the ground to see what is happening. The leader of the Islamic Party of Tajikistan, Deputy Prime Minister Hoji Akbar Turajonzoda, has identified HT as a Western-sponsored bogeyman for “remaking Central Asia”. . . .
It is not a lack of understanding on the part of American neo-conservatives associated with the Bush administration, but their keenness to use the “Lewis Doctrine” to achieve what they believe is justified that promises untold danger. How important a brains-trust is Lewis to the neo-conservatives? Just read the words of Richard Perle, a leading neo-conservative who remains a close adviser to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld: “Bernard Lewis has been the single-most important intellectual influence countering the conventional wisdom on managing the conflict between radical Islam and the West.”
So — we end by coming back round again to Richard Perle, but hopefully in a larger context.
It ain’t really about the Middle East, boys and girls — it’s about world domination, by any means necessary. The only question is one of identifying the moves as they happen, instead of many years later.”
Oh dear, the return of the genocidal, anglophobic terrorist nutter, avatar Singh, who says:
“entglish are the curse of this world and are real pestilence which should ebe eliminated.”
I thought even liberals were intolerant of intolerance. Or is there an exception in the case of advocacy of extermination of the English race?
Here’s Julian Assange’s highest academic credential, in case anyone is interested:
http://edu.npo.eu/news/
You have to scroll down a bit.
Obviously, he’s a genius.
LOL
Avatar Singh: I don’t recall any of my mates or family members advocating terrorism, even though they’re not English while still being British. I asked my English wife, just to be sure, and she doesn’t recall doing anything to encourage Chechen activity against the children of Beslan.
Could you explain then why we should all have to die according to your logic?
Gklenn, that was a beautiful – and deeply eloquent – passage. Thank you so much for sharing your experience of Cuba with us on these beoards. Much appreciated.
I’ve just had some correspondence from a recent visitor to Cuba. Here is the relevant text from his message (translated into English):
“My experience is, that the people are poor, but not too unhappy. Travelling by bus is cheap, for example .. I talked to young Cubans, who apparently are not very interested in politics. They are interested in overseas countries, and would like travel like us, but in my view the poverty is a bigger problem than the politics. Also there’s a lot of propaganda.”
corrected:
“My experience is, that the people are poor, but not too unhappy. Travelling by bus is cheap, for example .. I talked to young Cubans, who apparently are not very interested in politics. They are interested in overseas countries, and would like to travel like us, but in my view the poverty is a bigger problem than the politics. Also there’s a lot of propaganda.”