464 thoughts on “And in next week’s Guardian, Joseph Goebells reviews Mein Kampf.

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  • glenn

    Why does the BBC, the Guardian etc. etc. insist on paying war criminals for their self-serving views with such regularity? The Guardian surely knows the majority of its readers don’t actually hold the likes of Campbell in particularly high regard. The BBC knows Campbell did a lot of damage to them, because they had the audacity to broadcast the truth (albeit briefly). Yet they are treated as some authority who has wisdom for us. Disgraceful.

  • Paul

    Hate to post off topic but is this the Lib Dems payoff?

    Liberal Democrat Party

    Dr Sarah (Sal) Brinton – Executive Director of the Association of Universities in the East of England

    Dee Doocey OBE – Chair of the London Assembly

    Qurban Hussain – Deputy Group Leader of the Liberal Democrat group on Luton Borough Council

    Judith Jolly – Chair of Executive Committee of Liberal Democrats in Devon and Cornwall

    Susan Kramer – former Liberal Democrat MP

    Raj Loomba – businessman and campaigner for widows’ rights

    Jonathan Marks – commercial and family law QC with specialist interest in human rights and constitutional reform

    Monroe Palmer OBE – Liberal Democrat Councillor and Chair of Liberal Democrat Friends of Israel

    Jenny Randerson – Liberal Democrat Member of the National Assembly for Wales for Cardiff Central, former Minister in the Welsh Assembly Government

    John Sharkey – Chairman of the Liberal Democrat 2010 General Election campaign

    Nicol Stephen – Former Deputy First Minister of Scotland (2005 – 2007) and leader of the Scottish Liberal Democrats (2005 – 2008)

    Ben Stoneham – Liberal Democrat HQ Operations Director

    Mike Storey CBE – Primary School Head teacher, former Leader of Liverpool City Council, Liberal Democrat Councillor and former Lord Mayor of Liverpool;

    Paul Strasburger – businessman and philanthropist

    Claire Tyler – Chief Executive of Relate

  • somebody

    Off topic but a warning –

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    A card is posted through your door from a company called PDS (Parcel

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    number).

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    If you do receive a card with these details, then please contact Royal

    Mail Fraud on 020 7239 6655.

    a

    When I read the word Belize I immediately thought of Lord Ashcroft. LOL.

  • Suhayl Saadi

    Craig, I think your comment may have been deleted – I couldn’t find it and there is one comment by a ‘Craigjm’ that has been deleted. I agree with Paul – maybe you could post it here, if you still have it!

  • MJ

    Craig has posted it here. The headline of this thread is what he said. It was one of those brief, pithy and misspelled comments in which he excels.

  • ingo

    here is my characteristically mispelled addage to Alistairs masterpiece. God the Guardian prints any bit of crap these days, giving credence to scrotbags like Bush and those who re write history to embellish their brutalities.

    This has got to be the worst insult to Guardian readers ever.

    To cheerlead a man so seriously flawed in life, from his cocaine fuelled afternoon soirees with lady bourbon, to the craving of a desperate president, desperate to please his daddy who messed up in Iraq , a lifetime story of a loser who wanted to please daddy, and what does Alistair make of it?

    really.

    Bush was a loser who was instrumental to the killing of hundreds of throusand of Iraqi’s under false pretences.

    I’m desperately looking for an emoticon for wretching/spitting, cause thats how I feel over this article.

    Who will be balsamed by Alistair next week? and can we have a choice of who it is.

    we could have an exposee on Ratko Vladic, ‘ why Srebrenica was not that bad’,

    or a retrospective review of Goebbels finest hours, ‘dancing through crystal Nacht’.

  • Clark

    Somebody, thanks for the warning. I find it remarkable that ‘legitimate’ ‘phone companies can act as the collection agencies for such scammers.

  • somebody

    Paul I get your meaning now. It is the list of new parasites for the House of Lords. There are 750 of them now all entitled to claim £300 a day for their attendance. A distinct risk of them signing in and sloping off as Glenys Kinnock used to do in Brussels when she was a MEP. She kept a taxi running once whilst she nipped in to register for her bunce.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11797202

    Clark, someone earlier chides me for not finding out if that scam was still current. Although I got it today, it is apparently extant. I bet there are many others still going.

  • glenn

    Yup – it’s been deleted my the moderator.

    Suhayl… this is what it did say:

    —start quote

    craigjm

    19 November 2010 2:34PM

    And in next week’s Guardian, Joseph Goebells reviews Mein Kampf.

    Craig Murray

    —end quote

    So… not content with having war criminals on the payroll writing puff-pieces about other war criminals, the moderator finds dissent offensive and removes it.

  • Suhayl Saadi

    Yes, Glenn I do not think there was any justification for the comment to be removed. It’s clearly a brief volley of sarcasm and there is nothing of a libellous, racist or expletive nature in the comment. Campbell is a politician and Bush is a politician; they’ve surely had far worse in their time. Perhaps the comment was removed because the Moderator knew who had made it. Or perhaps the Guardian has become so thin-skinned, they will remove anything that might offend anyone. Well, Campbell being given space to write anything in the national media offends me. The man ought to be prosecuted, as should his erstwhile boss, Blair (and Blair’s erstwhile boss, Bush).

  • Duncan McFarlane

    Glenn wrote “Why does the BBC, the Guardian etc. etc. insist on paying war criminals for their self-serving views with such regularity?”

    With the Guardian for two reasons – first it sells papers/ gets website hits and second because they allow a wide range of viewpoints in their comment columns from socialists and greens through to liberals, conservatives and neo-cons

    With the BBC, because they are publicly funded and their chairman is appointed by the government, so they have no real independence other than that shown from a few journalists (especially after the purge over Gilligan quoting Kelly – a reliable source – rubbishing the US and British governments on Iraqi WMDs)

  • Clark

    Presumably Craig’s link was removed because it casts The Guardian in a bad light.

    Somebody, Mike Cobley’s link is about e-mail scams. Probably the e-mail version was shut down. It looks like the same scam is being tried again, but using the post this time.

    How can it be legal for ‘phone companies to collect this money via customer’s bills, take their cut, and pass the rest on to the criminals?

  • Paul

    @Clark

    “Presumably Craig’s link was removed because it casts The Guardian in a bad light.”

    I’d suggest that allowing Campbell to waste an entire article in the Guardian on apologetics for a self-confessed torturer is that thing that casts the Guardian in a bad light.

    But perhaps they have a Godwin’s law filter on CIF.

    Paul

    P.S. CIF = ‘censored if funny’, no?

  • Suhayl Saadi

    Decent article by David Pratt in The Herald today about Viktor Bout. This man’s very apt name sounds like that which might have been bestowed upon an hypothetical Beckett character: Jack Boot.

    Will he do a deal, plead guilty (thus avoiding a trial with potential revelations) and get a light sentence followed by extradition to Russia, or will he end-up dead (though I suspect that if they’d wanted him dead, he’d be dead by now). One can envisage different US Govt agencies vying for their own agenda here. Or perhaps it’s all just an chess-move against Russia.

    Odd, he resembles a generic 1970s Mittel-European prog-rock musician, but in reality, it seems he is ‘Miss Kalashnikov, 2010’.

    Does he know Mark Thatcher, one cannot help wondering? Mark Thatcher, of Equatorial Guinea infamy.

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/comment/guest-commentary/there-is-a-heavy-price-to-pay-for-dealing-with-lord-of-war-1.1069425

  • tony_opmoc

    You may think he is a Tory Tosser, but I think Boris is Brilliant…

    I Did Say Boris Was Lovely FREE BRITANNIA Forum Index

  • Suhayl Saadi

    That is indeed priceless, Tony! Credit where it’s due. Did Boris Johnson say/ write this at the time when Bush was President, though? Perhaps he did and if so, good on him. Do you have any links thereof?

  • ingo

    Duncan, your post has got 12 recommendations up till now, well done man, was there anything you missed out? you only had 5000 words (;-)

    I must have been naughty, cabaret, dripping sarcasmn and inuendo is not Grauniad. Fine, its like water of a ducks back, they are paying Mr. Campbell for this drivel, it should really be the death nail for Bushs book.

  • tony_opmoc

    Suhayl,

    He’s a Tory FFS. Its like the Pope saying it is O.K. to fuck your girlfriend without using a condom.

    He said it a couple of days ago in the Torygraph. I read it this morning linked from a US website…

    I spend most of my virtual time in America as I have been partially banned from the Independent cos I score too many likes on The Telegraph…I got 225 in 3 hours a couple of weeks ago..

    If Ken Livingston had said it – no one in America or even here would have taken much notice…

    But have you read the Telegraph recently – Most of them are Raving (Totally fucking insane – calling the poor innocent sods who have been Tortured “VERMIN” cos their skin is not the same colour. Yet even the people calling them VERMIN don’t go to Church on Sunday – It is just that they have been Brainwashed To Hate – By OUR Fucking Government

    Boris Johnson Is a Star

    And He’s funny Too

    I also look like him – no seriously – when he first got elected as Mayor of London – I got called Boris wherever I went. Now my hair is considerably longer.

    Tony

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