Last night two masked men in military uniform shot dead a 27 year old man in his home in Sandnes, Norway. Nowhere in the mainstream media can I find anybody wondering whether this is related to the massacre in Norway the day before – even though both were killings with guns, (very rare in Norway), and either this guy really was assassinated by soldiers, or both were carried out in false uniform.
Have I turned into a crazed conspiracy theorist, or is this lack of curiosity a little bit strange?
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Can this second incident the same weekend in Norway of armed killers in uniforms relate in any way to the “two other cells” of which Breivik spoke in court? I am not claiming to know the answers, but there seem to me obvious questions here and I don’t understand why the media is not asking them.
Yes. Not really.
http://tarpley.net/2011/07/24/norway-terror-attacks-a-false-flag/
I think that Tarpley’s suggestion that the massacre is a NATO linked reaction to Norway’s decision to end its contribution to the Libya bombing campaign, is wildly improbable.
A lot of tweets about Sandnes, but the vast majority are in Norwegian. The few in English are about “Cross Country Skiing – Blink Festival in Sandnes cancelled after two days”. Some links go to brief Norwegian media reports of the shooting but with no speculation that I can see (via Google translate).
Lack of curiosity is sadly becoming the norm. Curiosity is sadly becoming heretical and marginalised.
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Out of interest, have the Norwegian police confirmed that the Oslo explosion was a fertilizer bomb? Forensic analysis of the debris should quickly reveal the type of bomb.
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Just curious.
I’ve just fashioned a hat with last of my tinfoil from the kitchen drawer. So here’s my idea. European governments have tolerated the far right up until now.
But things went too far on Friday. The man who was shoot in the head was planning something similar and his assassination was preventative and a warning.
But what would fit in with Craig’s conspiracy theory from Tarpley’s article is:
“As usually happens, these extra shooters were soon expunged from the hegemonic media narrative.1”
Of course, expunging from life leaves no questions answered. Tarpley’s link asks if there were two or three shooters in the Fort Hood massacre.
That he was shot in the head but died later in hospital suggests a slight lack of professionalism on part of the killers or a low calibre weapon.
Low calibre weapons are the choice of professional killers as they deform while penetrating the skull and tumble around within the skull doing a vast amount of damage, the majority of brain tissue can be destroyed, but leave the autonomic region that controls breathing and heart function intact. Death is determined when the heart stops.
“That’s just perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the Universe has that.” – Slartibartfast
“European governments have tolerated the far right up until now.”
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Andy, European governments are all to “the far right”, thats the problem!!!.
“European governments have tolerated the far right up until now.”
Uh huh.
EU statistics record 45 “left-wing” terrorist attacks last year and 0 “right-wing” terrorist attacks. But by all means don’t let this get in the way of your narrative…
https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/publications/te-sat2011.pdf
Craig,
It is interesting about this new shooting, but there isn’t enough information yet.
I think there should be questions asked about building damage and ammount of fertilizer needed to cause this damage. Was there a timer? Was it activated by mobile phone? Apparently the island where the shootings occurred was an hour and a half away from the explosion site and a boat is needed to get there. Explosives had been recovered from a car, thought to have been left parked next to the Utøya ferry. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/23/utoya-mass-murder-anders-behring-breivik
Have you heard of the sewer work going on near the Oslo government building days before the explosion? http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/23/norway-notes/
According to Gordon Duff of Veterans Today, Breivik appears to have quoted verbatim, large sections from the preaching of Theodore Kaczynski in his 1500 page online rant.
As for the Knights Templar connection, I think the smokescreen of bull and mis/dis-information is descending rapidly.
I think the Norwegian, Israeli Boycott-Palestinian theme and also the Geller-Tea Party are leads worth following.
what about the testimony given in the Madrid courts after the massive madrid train atrocities?
These posts have certainly brought the Z trolls in. Hasbara? Megaphone? CAMERA?
Nothing wrong with a bit of amateur sleuthing Craig, especially given the wholesale abandonment by our fascist state to pursue the truth on our behalf – if it actually ever did that is!
And while we’re at it, http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2011/07/thursday-july-21-2011.html suggests the very intriguing: “Three men flee scene of fatal crash in Hertfordshire” h t t p ://w w w.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-14178114. He suggests this case may be linked to a possible killing of Sean Hoare. It may be prudent to watch how this investigation goes. It really shouldn’t be hard to find these men, if the state wants them to be found.
David Kelly’s death (my money’s on his being assassinated) and other modern happenings (you know that I mean) should make us perk up and engage full in this sleuthing. We’ve all heard the expression “all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to stay silent.”
Another report on the new shooting. This has it as a head injury.
http://www.presstv.com/detail/190629.html
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New Norway violence critically injures 1
Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:40PM GMT
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Friends and loved ones gather at the Oslo cathedral to mourn victims killed in twin terror attacks from a bombing in downtown Oslo and a mass shooting on Utoya island on July 24,2011 in Oslo, Norway.
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As the Norwegians are mourning the brutal deaths of scores inside the country, another shooting has reportedly left a male critically injured in the southwest.
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The 27-year-old victim was the target of a headshot in Sandnes on Sunday, Xinhua reported.
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He has been placed under medical care, but his condition is reportedly unstable.
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Reports say two men in military fatigues knocked on his door, broke into the house and carried out the shooting. Police are looking for the two suspects.
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Witnesses also saw two men fleeing from the scene in a red Audi car.
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Experiencing its worst instances of violence since the World War II, the country came under shooting spree and a bombing attack respectively on the Utoeya Island in the south and the government headquarters in Oslo.
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Anti-Islam Christian fundamentalist Anders Behring Breivik has claimed responsibility for both attacks, which have together claimed 94 people so far.
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He has described his actions as ‘gruesome but necessary,’ and said he would explain himself at a court hearing scheduled for Monday.
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Breivik has expressed strong anti-Islam views. He has formerly said that he has had several discussions with the racist and anti-Muslim group, the English Defense League, which opposes the spread of Islam.
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A memorial site has been set up for the victims outside Oslo’s cathedral.
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The country’s Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg said, “Every single one of those, who we have lost is a tragedy in itself. Together, it is a national tragedy. We are still struggling to come to terms with the extent of the tragedy. Many of us know someone who has died. Even more of us know someone, who has felt at loss. I personally know many, who died.”
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HN/MGH
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You might find this of interest:
http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=230919
“Terror suspect mentioned ‘two more cells'”
It is likely that the two individuals dressed in military uniform were tying up the proverbial loose ends. Someone either failed to carry out his end of the bargain or posed a risk to the perpetrator(s).
So far, evidence points to the fact that the gunman was a part of a larger group, possibly a network spanning more than one European country. Now given the various rallies held in previous months and years across Europe. It is highly plausible there is such a large scale (terrorist) network.
Time well tell. The British MI-5/6 have offered to assist Norway.
As an aside, Glenn Greenwald has reported that out of more than 200 terrorist incidents last year, the EU found that only 1 was connected to Islamic groups.
It’s certainly something worth mentioning to any ignoramus out there.
“Anti-Islam Christian fundamentalist Anders Behring Breivik” – So he isn’t a terrorist then?
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Conclusion: Terrorism is the exclusive preserve of those mad Muzzie Mullahs hiding across the world, under our beds, waiting to kill us all – or so the subtle impressioning goes.
“European governments have tolerated the far right up until now.”
Uh huh.
”EU statistics record 45 “left-wing” terrorist attacks last year and 0 “right-wing” terrorist attacks. But by all means don’t let this get in the way of your narrative…
https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/publications/te-sat2011.pdf”
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I mean their gatherings, EDL demonstrations, for example. Their hate sites.
Their attacks on Muslims or people they think are Muslims.
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What about this guy? ”on January 15, 2010, Terence Gavan, a former soldier and British National Party member, was convicted of manufacturing nail bombs and a staggering array of explosives, firearms and weapons. It was, Mr Justice Calvert-Smith said, the largest find of its kind in the UK in modern history. The fact that David Copeland used nail bombs to deadly effect in London in 1999 makes this an especially disturbing case. Gavan had previously pleaded guilty to 22 charges at Woolwich Crown Court:
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“Police discovered 12 firearms and 54 improvised explosive devices, which included nail bombs and a booby-trapped cigarette packet, at the home Gavan shared with his mother. He told detectives he had ‘a fascination with things that go bang’, the Old Bailey heard. After the case, head of the North East Counter Terrorism Unit David Buxton said Gavan posed a significant risk to public safety. ‘Gavan was an extremely dangerous and unpredictable individual,’ he said. ‘The sheer volume of home-made firearms and grenades found in his bedroom exposed his obsession with weapons and explosives … Gavan used his extensive knowledge to manufacture and accumulate devices capable of causing significant injury or harm.”
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/07/201172482841769458.html
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Lucky Terence Gavan was caught.
At least Tarpley does his research before writing.
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Care to tell us why you consider his suggestion as “widely improbable”?
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Do you think Gladio was put to bed, or have you been “warned off”, Craig?
XXY – “Terrorism is the exclusive preserve of those mad Muzzie Mullahs”
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Very good article on that subject by Greenwald here:
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/07/23/nyt/index.html
On the BBC website. Double counting?
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Police have now revised down the island killings to 68 but increased the bomb death toll by one to eight.
BBC News have got Alexander Meleagrou-Hitchens (I think he is the son of Christopher Hitchens) from that International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation that Jonathan Paris comes from. He has been ‘analysing’ what lies behind Breivik’s actions and his affiliations. When talking about Breivik’s hatred of Muslims and his attempt to warn of a takeover of Europe by them, he actually included this phrase …Muslims outbreeding the Europeans… as if it was a possibility.
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http://www.powerbase.info/index.php/Alexander_Meleagrou-Hitchens
@ dreoilin. You are right. A very good article indeed. Thanks.
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“Terrorism has no objective meaning and, at least in American political discourse, has come functionally to mean: violence committed by Muslims whom the West dislikes, no matter the cause or the target. “
More “wildly improbable” connections from Veterans Today:
“Norway’s national oil company has decided to boycott Israel because of the violence in Gaza. This is a huge issue with Israel, seen as a threat to their national security and is likely to draw a violent response. A car bomb near their oil company headquarters is very much a standard warning, “government to government” as it were. Adding the slaughter of children to it is a Mossad signature.”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/23/norway-notes/
“When talking about Breivik’s hatred of Muslims and his attempt to warn of a takeover of Europe by them, he actually included this phrase …Muslims outbreeding the Europeans… as if it was a possibility.”
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Why do you say, “as if that were a possibility”?
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The overall European fertility rate is 1.45 per woman, i.e. far below the replacement rate, the Muslim rate is said to be three times that. If that is correct, what Meleagrou-Hitchens has said is merely a short-range extrapolation.
Muslim Europe: the demographic time bomb transforming our continent
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“… Only 3.2 per cent of Spain’s population was foreign-born in 1998. In 2007 it was 13.4 per cent. Europe’s Muslim population has more than doubled in the past 30 years and will have doubled again by 2015. In Brussels, the top seven baby boys’ names recently were Mohamed, Adam, Rayan, Ayoub, Mehdi, Amine and Hamza. …”
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This is why it seems necessary to consider the possibility that Breivik is exactly what he says he is: a crusader fighting a Muslim takeover of Europe that will mean not only the extinction of Christianity in Europe but of the European peoples, whose only hope of posterity, according to Sarkozy, is to marry an immigrant.
Scouse Billy Norway also divesting from Israeli construction companies.
http://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2010/08/24/norway-oil-fund-to-boycott-israeli-construction-companies/
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Ivarfjeld is one of those Zionist supporting sites as you can see.
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The Boycott Divestment Sanctions campaign ia having a significant effect on Tel Aviv.
{http://www.bdsmovement.net/}
I think you make a good point Craig. If Islamic extremists rather than a far right Christian extremist who hates Muslims, immigrants and “inter-racial” marriages, there would be a lot more attempts to identify people linked to the gunman (there were plenty in most newspapers, who didn’t wait to find out whether it was Al Qa’ida or not – most notoriously The Sun with it’s ‘Al Qaeda massacre’ headline, but broadsheets too).
The assumption seems to be that because he’s white and not a Muslim he must be a lone nut who acted alone and we don’t need to worry about others. I’m not so sure – there are millions of people in Europe who share his ideology opposing immigration, spouting hatred against immigrants and Muslims and talking nonsense about “uncontrolled immigration” and “the Islamicisation of Europe” (as if Muslim immigrants are all hardline fundamentalists, as if their children and grandchildren won’t be as influenced towards secular values or Christianity by the society they’re moving into as e.g Irish immigrants have been; and as if later generations’ birth rates won’t fall (every past wave of immigration shows birth rates fall for later generations).
This ideology is dangerous and has been encouraged by the big parties competing to be “tougher” on immigration and Muslims/terrorism (as if the two were the same thing). This has made claims by the BNP and the more extreme members of UKIP and similar parties in the rest of Europe seem credible when they’re not.
I doubt we’ll hear any calls from politicians or police for Christian churches and communities to do something about the extremists in their midst either, the way we ridiculously have about ordinary Muslims in relation to Al Qa’ida, as if Al Qa’ida had any significant support among Muslims.