The Guardian Protects Gould-Werritty 603


The planned scenario for a war with Iran is playing out before our eyes at frightening speed now. Unfortunately. as I have frequently said, Iran has a regime that is not only thuggish but controlled by theocratic nutters: the attack on the British Embassy played perfectly into the hands of the neo-cons. William Hague is smirking like the cat who got the cream.

The importance of the Fox-Gould-Werritty scandal is that it lifts the lid on the fact that the move to war with Iran is not a reaction to any street attack or any nuclear agency report. It is a long nurtured plan, designed to keep feeding the huge military industrial war machine that has become a huge part of the UK and US economies, and whose sucking up of trillions of dollars has contributed massively to the financial crisis, and which forms a keystone in the whole South Sea Bubble corporate finance system for servicing the ultra-rich. They need constant, regenerative war. They feed on the shattered bodies of small children.

Gould, Fox and Werritty were plotting with Israel to further war with Iran over years. The Werritty scandal was hushed up by Gus O’Donnell’s risibly meagre “investigation” – a blatant cover-up – and Fox resigned precisely to put a cap on any further digging into what they had been doing. I discovered – with a lot of determination and a modicum of effort – that Fox, Werritty and British Ambassador to Israel Matthew Gould had met many times, not the twice that Gus O’Donnell claimed, and had been in direct contact with Mossad over plans to attack Iran. Eventually the Independent published it, a fortnight after it went viral on the blogosphere.

The resignation of the Defence Secretary in a scandal is a huge political event. People still talk of the Profumo scandal 50 years later. But Fox’s resignation was forgotten by the media within a fortnight, even though it is now proven that the Gus O’Donell official investigation into the affair was a tissue of lies.

Take only these undisputed facts:

Fox Gould and Werritty met at least five times more than the twice the official investigation claims
The government refuses to say how often Gould and Werritty met without Fox
The government refuses to release the Gould-Werritty correspondence
The three met with Mossad

How can that not be a news story? I spent the most frustrating fortnight of my life trying to get a newspaper – any newspaper – to publish even these bare facts. I concentrated my efforts on the Guardian.

I sent all my research, and all the evidence for it, in numeorus emails to the Guardian, including to David Leigh, Richard Norton-Taylor, Rupert Neate and Seumas Milne. I spoke to the first three, several times. I found a complete resistance to publishing anything on all those hidden Fox/Werritty/Gould meetings, or what they tell us about neo-con links with Israel.

Why? Guardian Media Group has a relationship with an Israel investment company, Apax, but the Guardian strongly denies that this has any effect on them.

The Guardian to this day has not published the fact that there were more Fox-Gould-Werritty meetings than O’Donnell disclosed. Why?

I contacted the Guardian to tell them I intended to publish this article, and invited them to give a statement. Here it is, From David Leigh, Associate Editor:

I hope your blogpost will carry the following response in full.

1. I know nothing of any Israeli stake in the ownership of the Guardian. As it is owned by the Scott Trust, not any Israelis, your suggestion sems a bit mad.

2. The Guardian has not “refused” to publish any information supplied by you. On the contrary, I personally have been spending my time looking into it, as I told you previously. I have no idea what the attitude of others in “the Guardian” is. I form my own opinions about what is worth publishing, and don’t take dictation from others. That includes you.

3. I can’t imagine what you are hinting at in your reference to Assange. If you’ve got a conspiracy theory, why don’t you spit it out?

I can understand your frustration, Craig, when others don’t join up the dots in the same way as you. But please try not to be offensive, defamatory, or plain daft about it.

As I said, it would be honest of you to publish my response in full if you want to go ahead with these unwarranted attacks on the Guardian’s integrity.

Possible some Guardian readers will get drawn to this post: at least then they will find out that Werritty, Fox and Gould held many more meetings, hushed up by O’Donnell and hushed up by the Guardian.

It should not be forgotten that the Guardian never stopped supporting Blair and New Labour, even when he was presiding over illegal wars and the massive widening of the gap between rich and poor. My point about Assange is that he has done a great deal to undermine the neo-con war agenda – and the Guardian is subjecting him to a campaign of denigration. On the other hand Gould/Fox/Werritty were pushing a neo-con project for war – and the Guardian is actively complicit in the cover-up of their activities.

The Guardian. Whom does it serve?


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  • Mark Golding - Children of Iraq

    Feelings of frustration over the constant push for war, death, destruction, arms sales and hegemony to boost a failing economy is a regular part of my day. We are all dominated by a Zionist power structure and ideology, with 80% of the Coalition party’s MPs being Conservative Friends of Israel (CFOI), our media editorials being controlled by BICOM, and our country having been involved in criminal wars to serve Israeli interests – Most of us are in fact like Palestinians with a need to be liberated.
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    To influence British society and counter the Zionist lobbies dictating their own political agenda to the British public I have picked on Craig’s felicitous phrase, “They feed on the shattered bodies of small children” and married that to our solidarity with Palestine, starting right here at home with an open Facebook group and web-site called ‘Friends of Britain’ with the address ‘www.fobuk.org.uk.’
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    The online presence will attempt to expose the severe suffering of Palestinian children and also expose the site visitors local MP who is more than likely to be a CFOI, LFI or Lib Dem Friends of Israel member and more including who, what and why.
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    I hope to grow a small group of friends and supporters into a successful lobbying group able, willing and determined to disclose to the British public political deception and cover-up and create an understanding that we have far too many ‘Friends of Israel’ in our government but nowhere nearly enough friends of Britain and Palestine.

    We live in unique times. Yesterday’s ideologies and political institutions are crumbling. We are living in a post-ideological and post-political age. Thanks to the internet and the social networks, each one of us is an independent broadcasting outlet. Each one of us is capable of disseminating information at the speed of light – wider and faster than any institutional media corporation.
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    British people from all walks of life are now free to choose who they follow and what they believe. In sum, this technology offers us a unique opportunity to democratise the realm of thoughts, ideas and action. It’s a window of opportunity and I intend to make the most of it.
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    In my book the Guardian(and the BBC) belong to the old world, the world of deception, economic inequality, stagnation and political power games..
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    I intend to invest some time in this group effort and I hold my hands out to you for contributions such as relevant images, YouTube videos, content and unmasking. The sites will be an experiment in open helping hands that have the highest privileges to publish.
    Content can be sent to: [email protected] or email at the same address for access to share.ovi.com to upload large files.
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    At the very least I believe participating will relieve frustration and at best sow viable seeds of change for our children and their children
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    The project is 100% collaboration and a voting system will move major ideas forward. The project is free of financial burdens and no money will ever change hands. All creative work will be under the ‘fair use’ clause and where exceptions exist I will bear to responsibility for obtaining ‘permission to use’ from the rights holders. Thank-you

  • Mary

    I so not trust Amnesty one bit. The new head of Amnesty International USA is Suzanne Nossel and look where she’s been before!
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    Jewish mafia inside Amnesty International USA
    przez Jerzy Ulicki-Rek » Cz lis 24, 2011 2:13 pm
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    Suzanne Nossel, former assistant to Richard Holbrooke in his capacity as UN Ambassador and currently Hillary Clinton’s Deputy Assistant for International Organization Affairs, has been selected as the new Executive Director of Amnesty International USA. In the discharge of her duties at the State Department, she diligently exploited human rights to benefit imperial ambitions.
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    Ms. Nossel had previously worked for Human Rights Watch, as well as for Bertelsmann Media Worldwide and the Wall Street Journal as Vice President of Strategy and Operations.
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    The AI-USA Board of Directors deemed that Suzanne Nossel’s commitment to the Clinton and Obama administrations was sufficient proof of her competence and decided not to hold a grudge against her for the crimes committed in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, etc.
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    Ms. Nossel has launched several campaigns against Iran, Libya and Syria. In recent months she made a name for herself by misinforming the Human Rights Council in Geneva with a view to getting the resolution authorizing the war on Libya adopted by the Security Council. Ms. Nossel’s allegations have since been debunked.

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  • Rob

    Also, see this interview with Alex Fishman :
    http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7640
    Especially the comment at 6:25 :
    “How else do you pressure the Americans to raise sanctions?”

    It is curious to see the disagreement between the Israeli security-military-intelligence community and the hardliner clowns (Netanyahu, Liberman, Barak) as to what the best strategy is to go about this, especially the recent declarations of Dagan. IC wants to continue the covert operations, as they argue that they have in fact been rather successful, whereas the hardliners are pretending they might bomb at any moment.

    It seems to me that all of the Op Eds, diplomatic pressure, fear mongering does exactly this, namely to try to convince the Americans that they might just be crazy enough to actually go through with it (see Moshé Dayan’s “mad dog” quote) in order to pressure more sanctions and isolation (which has the effect of drawing Russia and China closer to Iran as well).

  • Uzbek in the UK

    @ Mary
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    Whether we trust Amnesty or not we cannot turn blind eye to the fact of political prisoners in Iran, torture and the fact of sexual discrimination there. Or can we?

  • Ken

    @Mary. I so not trust Amnesty one bit.


    Really? Well maybe you would care to explain why Human rights watch say exactly the same thing about Iran. Sure you can find another blog to try and discredit them as well. The fact is that Amnesty and other human rights organisations have been reporting on Iran for decades and you have failed to discredit any of it.

    Freedom of Expression

    Dozens of journalists and bloggers are currently behind bars or free on short-term furloughs. On September 28 blogger Hossein Derakhshan received a nineteen-and-a-half year prison sentence for espionage, “propaganda against the regime,” and “insulting sanctities.” The judiciary sentenced numerous other journalists, including Isa Saharkhiz and Hengameh Shahidi who were sentenced to three and six years respectively, for crimes such as “insulting” government officials. On June 8 a revolutionary court sentenced Jila Baniyaghoub to a year in prison and barred her from working as a journalist for 30 years.

    The Ministry of Islamic Culture and Guidance continued shutting down newspapers and in August directed the press not to publish items about opposition leaders Mir Hossein Moussavi, Mehdi Karroubi, and Mohammad Khatami, the former president.

    State universities prevented some politically active students from registering for graduate programs despite undergraduate test scores that should have guaranteed them access. The government initiated an aggressive campaign to “Islamicize” universities, in part by forcibly retiring professors in the social sciences.

    The government relied on plainclothes security forces and the Basij, a state-sponsored paramilitary force, to target Shia clerics critical of the government, such as Grand Ayatollah Yusef Sanei, Mehdi Karroubi, and Ayatollah Seyed Ali Mohammad Dastgheib. Ayatollah Kazemini Boroujerdi-whose understanding of Islam calls for the separation of religion and government-entered his fourth year in prison following a Special Court for the Clergy conviction on unknown charges. After years under house arrest and government monitoring, Grand Ayatollah Hossein-Ali Montazeri died in December 2009. Security forces arrested scores of mourners who attended his funeral.

    The government systematically blocks websites that carry political news and analysis, slows down internet speeds, jams foreign satellite broadcasts, and employs the Revolutionary Guards to target dissident websites.
    Freedom of Assembly and Association

    Authorities continued a blanket policy of denying permits for opposition demonstrations. Security forces prevented the Mourning Mothers, whose sons and daughters were killed by security forces during the 2009 unrest, from gathering at Laleh Park in Tehran. Authorities also prevented women’s rights activists from publicly petitioning against existing laws or legislation that discriminate against women.

    The government increased restrictions on civil society organizations. On September 27 the general prosecutor and judiciary spokesman announced a court order dissolving two pro-reform political parties, the Islamic Iran Participation Front and the Mojahedin of the Islamic Revolution.

    Repression of student groups was particularly harsh. Security forces detained scores of members belonging to the Office for Consolidating Unity, including Ali Qolizadeh, Alireza Kiani, Mohammad Heydarzadeh, and Mohsen Barzegar, who were arrested in early November 2010. The Office for Consolidating Unity is a national independent student association that authorities declared illegal in January 2009. In 2010, revolutionary courts convicted Bahareh Hedayat, Majid Tavakoli, and Milad Asadi, members of Tahkim’s alumni group, to prison terms ranging from six to eight-and-a-half years on charges that include insulting government authorities.
    Death Penalty

    In 2009, the last year for which figures are available, authorities executed 388 prisoners, more than any other nation except China. Iranian human rights defenders believe that many more executions, especially of individuals convicted of drug trafficking, are taking place in Iran’s prisons today.

    Crimes punishable by death include murder, rape, drug trafficking, armed robbery, espionage, sodomy, and adultery. Under intense international pressure, officials suspended the stoning-to-death sentence of Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani who was convicted of adultery in 2006. However, they alleged that Ashtiani helped murder her husband. She remains on death row at this writing.

    Iran leads the world in the execution of juvenile offenders. Iranian law allows death sentences for persons who have reached puberty, defined as nine years old for girls and fifteen for boys. According to a human rights lawyer who defended many juvenile offenders on death row, authorities executed a juvenile offender named Mohammad on July 10, 2010. There are currently more than a hundred juvenile offenders on death row, including Ebrahim Hamidi, whom a local court sentenced to death for the alleged rape of another boy in 2010. Hamidi was 16 at the time of the alleged crime.

    Authorities have executed at least nine political dissidents since November 2009, all of them convicted of moharebeh (“enmity against God”) for their alleged ties to armed groups. On January 28 the government hanged Mohammad-Reza Ali-Zamani and Arash Rahmanipour. Although both were arrested prior to the June 2009 presidential election, they were tried as part of the August 2009 mass trials, where they reportedly confessed to planning a deadly 2008 bombing in Shiraz, southwest Iran.

    Authorities executed Farzad Kamangar, Ali Heidarian, Farhad Vakili, Shirin Alam Holi, and Mehdi Eslamian by hanging on the morning of May 9 in Evin prison without informing their lawyers or families. Another 16 Kurds presently face execution for their alleged support of armed groups.
    Human Rights Defenders

    Efforts to intimidate human rights lawyers and prevent them from effectively representing political detainees continued. In September authorities arrested Nasrin Sotoudeh, who represented numerous political prisoners. In November Sotoudeh went on a “dry” hunger strike, refusing to eat or drink anything to protest being held in solitary confinement since her arrest. Mohammad Mostafaei was forced to flee Iran after authorities repeatedly summoned him for questioning and detained his wife, father-in-law, and brother-in-law. Mostafaei represented high-profile defendants such as Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani, the woman sentenced to death by stoning, and numerous juvenile detainees on death row. In October 2010, a revolutionary court sentenced Mohammad Seifzadeh, a colleague of Nobel-prize winner Shirin Ebadi and co-founder of the banned Center for Defenders of Human Rights, to nine years imprisonment and banned him from practicing law for 10 years.

    Security forces routinely harassed and arrested human rights activists, often without charge. Others were swept up in raids and face charges of attempting to overthrow the government via “cyber-warfare.” On September 21 a revolutionary court sentenced Emad Baghi to six years in prison for an interview he conducted with dissident cleric Grand Ayatollah Montazeri several years earlier. Another revolutionary court sentenced Shiva Nazar Ahari and Koohyar Goodarzi, both members of the Committee of Human Rights Reporters, to six years and one year respectively after months of “temporary detention” for alleged national security offenses.

    http://www.hrw.org/world-report-2011/iran

    People who try to defend the Iranian regime for crimes against its people are delusional to say the least.

  • Mary

    Good for them for protesting against the use of these evil killing machines.
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    2 December 2011 Last updated at 15:44
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    London’s US Embassy demo: 22 arrests made
    The protest was against the use of US drones in Pakistan
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    Twenty-two people have been arrested following a demonstration outside the US Embassy in Grosvenor Square in central London.
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    Twenty were held on suspicion of being members of banned group Muslims Against Crusades. Two others were arrested over violent disorder and obstruction.
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    Those taking part in the protest said they were members of a group called United Ummah.
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    The demonstration was against the use of drones in Pakistan by the US.
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    Muslims Against Crusades was banned in the UK by Home Secretary Theresa May in November.
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    The embassy demonstration began at about midday and the arrests were made at about 13:20 GMT. All 22 people remain in custody, police said.
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    A Metropolitan Police spokesman said a “small number of people” remained at the demonstration.

  • Maidhc Ó Cathail

    The Jewish Chronicle’s outrage notwithstanding, it’s not as if Matthew Gould were the first Jewish ambassador to Israel whose loyalty has come under suspicion. Back in 2000, America’s first Jewish ambassador to Israel, Martin Indyk, had his security clearance suspended for “possible sloppiness” — as CNN’s Andrea Koppel (the wife of another “sloppy” Zionist, Kenneth Pollack) disingenuously put it — with classified documents. Prior to his appointment as Washington’s Man in Tel Aviv, Indyk had served as a Middle East advisor to the Australian PM, media advisor to Israeli PM and former Stern Gang terrorist Yitzak Shamir, and deputy research director for AIPAC. The other day, Indyk showed up on Al Jazeera suggesting that Turkey might orchestrate a military coup against Bashar al-Assad — in order to protect the Syrian people, of course.

  • John Goss

    Komodo, do we know who wrote the Guardian article, which is not available from the Guardian? But it is still available from world.chariweb.com and thanks for the link. Does this not tend to support Craig’s argument that journalists cannot write what they want? Or is it due to legal reasons? These lawyers are very scrupulous in their analysis and cross-examination of every sentence. And the greedy, avaricious, thieving scumbags at the centre of the allegations have the most money, and therefore get the best legal representation.

  • Azra

    Uzbek in the UK/Ken , at the moment there is a power struggle between two powerful camps, and it swings from time to time. Rafasanjani , Khatami, were pro reforms, they are still there, they still have their supporters inside and outside of the government, so I am hopeful that it will eventually happen. Ken, I do not trust Amnesty, not fully anyhow, their reports can be biased. Yes the demonstration is not allowed, but what I was talking about people talking, in Shah’s time we were sacred to talk about the brutality of the regime inside our four walls. Westerner look at the scantly dressed girls of Shah’s time, and call that Freedom, to me Freedom is to be able to eat, to have the opportunity to be educated.. and lots more than just women dress anyway they want, the fact that Iran had a female vice president before USA had, that there are as many girls going to university as there are guys, that there are universities in small town and even some villages.. These are should not be overlooked. The fact that there are human right lawyers, is one indication that once there is an educated class, change will have to happen. It might be slow, but better that than another Iraq.

  • Ken

    @Azra..I do not trust Amnesty.

    I posted up the report from Human Rights Watch as well. Guess you do not trust them either.

  • John Goss

    Passerby, thanks for that, I did discover and post that Guardian link just after the one that did not work. What is disturbing about it to my mind is that Tony Buckingham appears not to have been charged with insider dealing yet he passed the information on to directors of Genel a partner company with Heritage Oil.

  • Ken

    I am just wondering if all these people who do not trust Amnesty reports on Iran happen to trust their reports on the Palestinian land occupied by the Israelis? I bet you all believe those reports.

  • passerby

    John Goss,
    Disturbing you bet, however sadly all too expected from the bunch of rotten bastards, whom have been riding coach and horses through any and all conventions, whilst getting away with for many years.

  • Uzbek in the UK

    Ken,
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    People usually tend to believe to what they want to believe. This is part of our human nature. This is relevant to both of us too. I for instance do not believe that Israel should be wiped out and that Zionists have to be blamed for all sins of humanity.
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    Amnesty like any other organisation can have bias but my judgement on Iran comes not from them or BBC but from Iranians whom I met back in Uzbekistan and here in the UK. Those calling Iran democracy should read some books on the meaning of democracy first.

  • Ken

    @Mary..and were written by by George Ulicki-Rek »Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:13 pm

    Linking to Holocaust deniers now to prove your point. That is about as low as you can get.The guys name is Jerzy Ulicki-Rek,it says so next to your story on the link you provided and here is the same guy denying the Holocaust.

    http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=6224

  • Uzbek in the UK

    @ Azra
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    Do not get me wrong. I am not the one who thinks that west should go to war with Iran. I strongly believe that war with Iran will be much worse than the war with Iraq and will lead to many more deaths of Iranians and will also rise tensions in the world as whole. There is no reason why Iranians should die for a horrible mistakes of their rulers. If there is a slight chance of Iran turning into more liberal society evolutionary then I very much welcome it. But as for now Iranian regime is doing everything to encourage few crazy bastards in the west to start a war.

  • Azra

    Ken,
    Amnesty or any other human right organizations rely on people on the ground (Iran, Palestine) to report. I am not disputing that there are problems in Iran that the regime should change and beleive me it will, maybe not at the speed we all wish for but it will, it has to. What I am also bringing up that with all that, what has been achieved should not be overlooked. And Ken, I can tell you that if there was an election tomorrow in Iran, Ahmadi Nejad would be elected again fairly and squarely, he has lots of support there (sadly), I have many educated and liberal in my own family and friends who prefer him to Mosavi, (leader of green movement), they believe he was propped up by the west (maybe or may not be true). If we want to talk about brutality, well it happens here in UK and in USA , the supposed Free/democratic countries, so what you would expect from others. After all these Free/Democratic countries supposed to be role models! I am not saying two wrong makes it right, but I do not see that many report in the media about the brutality/corruption, of these democratic countries, in fact the news if anything is buried, Hence this thread of Craig’s blog!

  • Ken

    Azra..


    Last time I looked I did not see the UK government locking up bloggers for 15 years like the Iranian government do.

    Blogger Hossein Ronaghi-Maleki, arrested in December 2009, was sentenced to 15 years in prison on national security charges. When he complained that he had been tortured, the judge told him he “deserved it”.

    http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/iran/report-2011#section-64-5

  • angrysoba

    Ken: Linking to Holocaust deniers now to prove your point. That is about as low as you can get.The guys name is Jerzy Ulicki-Rek,it says so next to your story on the link you provided and here is the same guy denying the Holocaust.


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    The owner of that Forum also has a sticky at the top dedicated to the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, presumably that explains the references to the “Jewish mafia”. These days some of the commenters don’t even bother saying that their problem is Zionism but rather go straight to the “Evil JEW!” meme.

  • huh?

    azra
    that Iran had a female vice president before USA had
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    great, but…the USA didn’t have one yet.

  • Antelope Grazer

    ken
    Last time I looked I did not see the UK government locking up bloggers for 15 years like the Iranian government do.
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    Last time I looked the Iranian government didn’t lock people up indefinitely on no evidence at all with ‘control orders’
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    They also didn’t co-operate in US renditions and disappearances, and didn’t have an unshakeable habit of showering bombs on other countries all around the world.

  • Azra

    yes Ken, but what about UK rendition programme? is it advertised? what about UK throwing out and totally violiting human rights of people of Diego Garcia, and giving their homeland to USA so they can have their cursed bases?? what about Abu Gharib,

  • Ken

    Antelope Grazer..Last time I looked the Iranian government didn’t lock people up indefinitely on no evidence at all with ‘control orders’

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    No they use real prisons and torture on the people in Iran. Guess you do not look into it much if you have not seen it. Here you go.


    Torture and other ill-treatment

    Torture and other ill-treatment in pre-trial detention remained common, facilitated by the routine denial of access to lawyers and continuing impunity for perpetrators. Methods reported included severe beatings; forcing detainees’ heads into toilets to make them ingest human excrement; mock executions; confinement in very small, cramped spaces; deprivation of light, food and water; and denial of medical treatment. In one case, a male detainee was reported to have been raped; others were threatened with rape.

    In August, Gholam-Reza Bayat, a Kurdish youth, was reported to have died from internal bleeding after he was beaten in custody in Kamyaran.

    Details of torture in 2009 continued to emerge. In February, a former member of the volunteer paramilitary Basij force described how tens of boys had been rounded up in Shiraz, thrown into shipping containers and systematically raped. After expressing concerns to a Basij leader, he and others were detained for 100 days without access to their families and beaten. He also alleged that he faced a mock execution.

    http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/iran/report-2011#section-64-6

    I do not support British or American foreign policy btw and I also do not support human rights abuses in Iran or anywhere for that matter.

  • Ken

    @Azra..yes Ken, but what about UK rendition programme? is it advertised? what about UK throwing out and totally violiting human rights of people of Diego Garcia, and giving their homeland to USA so they can have their cursed bases?? what about Abu Gharib,

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    I do not agree with any of that but that does not take away from the fact that the Iranian government treats its own people like crap and tortures them and imprisons them on trumpt up charges just because they are against the government.

  • John Goss

    Iran is a country I have never been to, but in 2000 I queued outside the Iranian Embassy in Istanbul for nearly an hour hoping to get a transit visa to cycle through Iran. An American woman told me to forget it, that they keep you waiting for two weeks before you know if a visa has been granted, and often it is not. Whether this was true or not I don’t know. I could not afford to wait 2 weeks in Istanbul and made the queue one shorter.

    Craig’s right that the storming of the embassy in Tehran has played into Hague’s hands. There are a lot of Iranian nationals, particularly students, who have no representation if things go wrong for them in this ‘green and pleasant land’ whereas I guess the bulk of UK citizens in Tehran came home with the embassy staff. I would like to know with Robert Fisk what is in the documents rescued in the Tehran embassy raid. Bet Hague already knows.

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