Afghan Farce 147


The French government has suspended training for Afghan forces after four of their troops were killed by an Afghan soldier under training. Extraordinarily, that makes eight NATO troops killed by their trainees in 2012 already. It is the most extreme example of the complete failure of the occupation to achieve any of its ostensible aims. It is not even achieving any of its hidden aims, other than the channelling of huge amounts of our money to the arms industry.

But do not worry: NATO have come up with a brilliant and effective policy response to this problem. They are suppressing statistics on NATO personnel killed or wounded by Afghan army and police personnel. So that’s alright, then.


147 thoughts on “Afghan Farce

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  • Mary

    Israeli Lobby launch new Super PAC effort to bring down Ron Paul

    by Patrick Henningsen
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    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28776
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    PAC-Political Action Committee
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    For decades, lobbies and special interests have ruled Capitol Hill, with PACs effectively steering the outcome of every major political campaign by injecting money and buying influence. Now we find out that Texas Congressman and GOP candidate Ron Paul has been targeted by a new breed of PAC, this time with foreign backing.
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    In total, these new and unrestrained political action committees spent more than $15 million supporting GOP candidates in Iowa and New Hampshire and are now outspending the official campaigns in South Carolina by 2 to 1, according to advertising and expenditure data.
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    Out of this small handful of mega-rich donors, the Israeli lobby is represented heavily. The Washington Post adds here:
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    And casino magnate Sheldon Adelson recently dashed off a $5 million check to a group backing former House speaker Newt Gingrich (Ga.), marking what may be the largest single political contribution in U.S. history. Adelson is well known for supporting hard-line policies favoring Israel while also advocating measures that would benefit the gambling industry.

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  • Mary

    Unbelievable. I thought we were withdrawing.
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    Army to build ‘Afghan compound’ on Salisbury Plain
    The new shipping container structures are designed to replicate Afghan houses
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    Compounds designed to replicate Afghan villages are to be built on Salisbury Plain to better prepare troops for deployment.
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    Defence Infrastructure Organisation (DIO) has been given planning permission to build 50 “simplified structures” at 27 sites on the plain.
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    The British Army runs major exercises on Salisbury Plain twice a year.
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    Lt Col Mark Hiskett said he was “delighted” as it would “enhance the realism of exercises for our soldiers”.
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-16653733

  • Fedup

    FAO anyone who cares;
    Maziar Bahari is a; publisher, play write, journalist, film maker, author, cook, bottle washer, and short of batman a philanthropist and part time crime fighter, and revolutionary and …… (you get the drift)
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    He was picked up amidst the troubles ala failed colour revolution in Tehran and kept for 118 days and hours and minutes and seconds and nano, femto, atto seconds as his “book” tells. Throughout which the condescending little prick goes on about the “Interrogator” he calls Mr. Rosewater. To those uninitiated Iran being a hot country the working class try to keep fresh smelling through application of rosewater which is an affordable home grown product and does the trick as good as the more expensive scents Mr. Bahari is used to.
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    The condescension in the Newsweek article starts by his description of sitting on a wooden tablet arm chair, evidently the oh so Canadian Dual national expected Louis Vuitton furniture, the poor soul! The almost contradictory story starts by his orders not to look up and write, although he could see from under his blindfold! (for his rick he will be driving Paris-Dakar Rally with his blindfold on too)
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    His torture most probably was calling him names and giving him working class fare for dinners. This Batman without a Robin almost comically recants his Mother’s house getting raided and the care taken by the agents whom have taken off their shoes at the door and left their footwear outside in the corridor, and keep constantly apologising for the inconvenience they may be the cause of, carefully searching the house and asking for permission before touching any of the items under investigation.
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    This is the poster boy of dissent in Iran and the cause of the PressTV’s demise. Makes me fucking sick, between the rapacious oligarchs agents and charge hands, an in combination with the ziofuckwit monomaniacs, now I have to eat my beacon and egg without watching any TV News, until I have sorted out the PressTV set-up.
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    PS what happened to the poor nurse Rebecca Leighton the nurse who was arrested over the deaths at Stepping Hill Hospital, and kept in jail and interrogated for months, and then let out? None of the fucking Media ever published her story of umpteen days of world of shit, but hey we know there are different standards for different groups of people. It used to be whites only water dispensers and toilets now it is whites only news outlets and coloured ones and the coloured ones just are plumb trouble makers and need to be kept in their place. You know boy, just like the bus arrangements, that worked so well for all those years.

  • Rose

    Wonderful – dontcha just love the lengths they go to achieve realism; these buggers should be on stage somewhere in rep.

    This is seriously disturbing – are they going to people these mock-ups with plaster cast models of youngsters, elderly grumps, catsndogs?

    So happy that little Mark is delighted – wouldn’t want him to be “disappointed” would we.

    May God forgive us.

  • Mary

    They did it before in Norfolk Rose but I think there was such a stink about the mosque being included, they altered the plan. Ingo might know what the outcome was.
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    MoD builds Afghan village in Norfolk
    An Afghan village with a mosque, markets and suicide bombers has been unveiled by the Ministry of Defence – in the middle of Norfolk.
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/onthefrontline/5256219/MoD-builds-Afghan-village-in-Norfolk.html
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    They are not mental. They are evil. Note the inclusion of the smell of rotting meat.

  • Rose

    That’s awful Mary – am ashamed to say that passed me by.

    Another irony – apart from the smell of rotting meat (perhaps the whiff of their own decaying humanity) is the support they had in this delightful enterprise from Natural England (who they?)and the tender concern expressed for wildlife.

    Dear Christ.

  • Fedup

    Mary, Rose,
    I also gather there are some Afghan personnel flown in and housed in or around the projects, for injecting more realism, however the stories of these guys getting stoned and drunk out of their skulls is stuff of gossip.

  • Rose

    Fedup – you use the present tense – and Mary’s link refers to a 3 year old news item. Do you know what the state of play is now with this particular story? Were the MOD shown the door by the parish council? I note the proposed venue for this outrage was in the area of Lakenheath and Mildenhall.

  • Fedup

    Rose,
    It is still going on. The new batches getting sent there need to be trained and made ready. However, this kind of information is no longer making it out.

  • nuid

    “I also gather there are some Afghan personnel flown in and housed in or around the projects, for injecting more realism, however the stories of these guys getting stoned and drunk out of their skulls is stuff of gossip.”
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    What are you on?? A body is a body is a body. The Telegraph link from 2009 about Norfolk says:
    “The MoD employs Gurkhas who have done active service for the British and amputees from the charity Amputees for Action, to act as villagers, insurgents and injured soldiers.”
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    Flying in ‘Afghan personnel’ my arse. I’ve never heard anything so stupid in my life.

  • nuid

    “The area was originally a replica Nazi village built in 1942 and has previously been transformed to resemble settlements in Northern Ireland and Bosnia.”
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    If these guys aren’t playing with video games they’re playing with Lego. What on earth (major) difference is there between a village anywhere in Britain and a German village, a Northern Irish “settlement” (?) or a Bosnian one? All they need is practise at running in and out of buildings and shooting and throwing hand grenades … jeeze … war “games” is right. Boys with toys.

  • Fedup

    “Flying in ‘Afghan personnel’ my arse. I’ve never heard anything so stupid in my life.”,
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    World according to Nuid; So obtuse, and so certain.
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    Ever thought you are not perhaps close enough to; in the know circle?
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  • Fedup

    Laugh all you want, still makes no difference to you; you are out of it, as your stupid comments reflect.
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    Funny who you bump into on the net, isn’t it?

  • nuid

    “Funny who you bump into on the net, isn’t it?”
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    It is indeed. Like idiots who claim the military are going to make a bunch of shipping containers more ‘realistic’ as Afghan villages, by flying in real Afghans to hang around them. (And then manages to throw in a reference to these “Afghans” getting “stoned and drunk out of their skulls”.)
    Don’t miss your doctor’s appointment. And by the way, drop the Fedup/Passerby sock puppetry. It’s glaringly obvious.
    G’night now

  • crab

    Larry Levin – might have been confused with old ‘larry of the deep’, andor might have had a comment that came through as incorrigible. Im sure the offence was debated at the time. Move on then as we would…

  • Ben Franklin

    Nice to know incivility and snark are not Amerikkkan traits exclusively.

    Blame the influx of immigratiion.

  • crab

    angrysoba – he/it/they qualified ‘exclusively’ ,jeez start reading whole sentences someday :p
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    fedup if you do popup as passerby – you should declare as normal commenting rules. And ‘the know circle’ was very meet the faulkers.
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    I saw Newt Gingrich on weird-bbc-news-24, on americas most evil uncle, family munster podium party. There was a perfectly composed child and an assortment of familial grins feeding the camera, and a crowd chanting and whooping. Newt has a resemblence to larry flint, the inheritence-ebrity squillionaire.

  • DonnyDarko

    Shipping containers might not be so far fetched ! NATO send hundreds in each month to supply the troops but as far as I know Afghanistan exports very little apart from opium and heroin.That gets flown out by the CIA.So the containers stand empty.
    The Russians bombed their mud houses into rubble and US forces have been bombing and bulldozing that rubble into dust.
    Before I read Alexander , I played Risk for days on end as a kid and became aware of Afghanistan.Afghanistan and the Middle East were always lynchpin countries often deciding the outcome of games.
    In the same vein,North America was easily defended, but when it fell,it fell quickly.
    Boys will be boys !!

  • Mary

    Crab Ref Gingrich
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    Israeli Lobby launch new Super PAC effort to bring down Ron Paul

    by Patrick Henningsen
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    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28776

    [..]
    In total, these new and unrestrained political action committees spent more than $15 million supporting GOP candidates in Iowa and New Hampshire and are now outspending the official campaigns in South Carolina by 2 to 1, according to advertising and expenditure data.
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    Out of this small handful of mega-rich donors, the Israeli lobby is represented heavily. The Washington Post adds here:
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    And casino magnate Sheldon Adelson recently dashed off a $5 million check to a group backing former House speaker Newt Gingrich (Ga.), marking what may be the largest single political contribution in U.S. history. Adelson is well known for supporting hard-line policies favoring Israel while also advocating measures that would benefit the gambling industry.

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  • Mary

    Very depressing.
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    South Carolina poll: Gingrich triumphs over Romney
    Newt Gingrich: “We can rebuild the America that we love”
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    Newt Gingrich has convincingly beaten Mitt Romney in South Carolina’s primary election, the latest leg in the battle to be the Republican candidate in November’s US presidential poll.
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    With almost all votes counted, Mr Gingrich had 40% to Mr Romney’s 28%
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16669714

  • Azra

    @Mary, what is depressing ?? that NG won in South Carolina’s primary? they are all as bad as each other, and in any case what difference it makes who wins the election? The man in the White house is but a puppet whose strings are pulled elsewhere.
    As you know recently the billionaire Sheldon Adelson rushed to NG’s aid by giving a USD five-million cheque to Winning Our Future, a Super PAC that supports Gingrich. Needless to say Adelson is a close friend of Netanyahu and owner of Israel paper Hayom which is credited with helping Nethan in 2009.

  • Mark Golding - Children of Iraq

    Syria,
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    A reliable British ex SAS source working out of Dubai and training foreign fighters has revealed the U.K., France and Turkey are preparing for military intervention in Syria despite Hague’s denial.
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    Thousands of fighters are being armed with automatic weapons and receiving arms and communications training in Turkey and Iraq in a dual bid to create civil war and defeat forces loyal to President Assad.
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    The plan is to subdue Syria and Hezbollah before creating a naval ‘incident’ in the Straits of Hormuz.

  • guano

    Thanks Mark for confirmation of what Aangirfan has been saying for some time, that Hague is employing Belhadj from Libya, of so-called AlQaida, to train mujahideen in Turkey.
    These are the so-called Muslims who are launching this Libya-style attack:
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jIlJNFrS9qw/TxfWzKzmR3I/AAAAAAAAXUM/ZiCmEP7_RyM/s1600/Niqabitches-640×480.jpg
    They cover their faces piously, but underneath they make politics with the enemies of Islam, they spy on their fellow Muslims in the privacy of their own homes, they make politics against their brothers inside their own families, they cheat, they lie, they steal. When they find practising Muslims who have endured the oppression of dictatorships or Islamophobia, they persecute them for not worshipping them, like the Sufis worship the saints in their graves.
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    We cannot call it neo-Sufism for these so-called Muslims who demand respect for breaking all the principles of Islam, nor can we call it Salafism. My name for this group is Stupidism, because they actually believe that the Zionists are going to give them power in Muslim lands. Allah states in the Qur’an that if the Zionists are in power, they will not give us power even to the extent of the small dot on a date-stone.
    who has succesfully

  • Fedup

    “fedup if you do popup as passerby – you should declare as normal commenting rules. And ‘the know circle’ was very meet the faulkers”
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    Some divining going on there, mystique Meg don’t get a luck in, we are not back into; you are this and that and the other are we?
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    Nuid is a lunatic episode awaiting to happen, hence the inane and moronic statements in her comments.
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    Afghans do use shipping containers as their homes, due to their displacement and constant bombings that have turned their original mud built homes into dust and rubble. (can’t be even be arsed to look for the images and link these, due to worth of Nuid)
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    Further, for some reason Nuid has it in her brain; Armies are careful spenders and take great care in spending their budgets, hence finds, the forwarded notions ridiculous. This is patently stemming from the extent of stupidity of someone who is out of it by a continent.
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    Finally what is so unearthly for being in the “know”? Sometimes world is far more smaller than anyone of you can imagine. However, this does not sit well with your view of the world. Evidently, world is full of dead-bit under achievers, sitting in a basement and typing away on the internet. Healthy outlook for a bunch of “specially bright” and wonderful others whom have classified the world thus.
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    Frankly, this is some kind of stupid fucking fight, that so often ziofuckwits engage in to “run out” their “enemy”, because the mundane facts do not merit the ire that is contained in the comments in this thread.

  • guano

    I was going to say that Belhadj has succesfully given Hague the excuse to abandon the Gibson investigation into Torture and Rendition. This limits the enquiry to two cases of rendition who will be given compensation. This will be further sidelined into bad apples in the intelligence services, who will not eventually be found.

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