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160 thoughts on “Straight Talk From Occupy News Network”

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  • Jon

    Steve, John – just use Save As on this link and watch it offline in VideoLAN. I am trying again to get it – dodgy office connection my end I think! (If you have a download manager that might help – download restarts may be supported).

  • bert

    @Komodo Thanks, but I think cablegatesearch.net is only for US diplomatic cables.

    Information regarding “the central role of British intelligence in drawing up a secret plan to crush Hamas in the Palestinian territories” is supposed to have come from “confidential Palestinian records covering more than a decade of negotiations with Israel and the US”.

    I would like to see the specific document or documents regarding MI6 and Hamas.

    To come at this in a mild way…

    …start by recognising that Wikileaks is small, and assume for the sake of argument that there may have been decent practical reasons for cooperating with media outlets controlled by the rich and powerful, such as the Guardian, the New York Times, and Al Jazeerah. (Goodness knows what those reasons might have been, but let’s just say ‘it takes all sorts’.)

    …So Wikileaks don’t get to choose what gets mentioned in those outlets, or how it’s spun… (Aka ‘free press’ and all that garbage.)

    OK, fine.

    But then…what does get mentioned, gets mentioned. Let’s assume Wikileaks then find out by reading the media, like the rest of us.

    At the very least, I’d want Wikileaks to publish links to the documents the mainstream media have chosen to print stories based on.

    Most of us commenting here would agree with Craig that we need more whistleblowers.

    But I think of whistleblowers who fall in the following two categories…

    1) someone who leaks something that the mainstream media doesn’t touch…they go to all that risk, for what?

    2) someone who leaks something that the mainstream media does touch, but puts an obnoxious spin on. Well a leopard doesn’t change his spots. We’re not naive; it’s what the whistleblower should expect. But he might also reasonably expect that Wikileaks should facilitate access to the original document by people who are interested in whichever agency the leak concerns, who come across the story in the media, and who can think for themselves about it. The idea should be to encourage more whistleblowing and more critical thought in the population.

    There’s massive corruption everywhere. How are we going to do anything about it any other way?

    There are no professional whistleblowers, and if anyone is waiting for new Woodwards and Bernsteins…time to wise up?

  • Steve Cook

    “@Jon

    Steve, John – just use Save As on this link and watch it offline in VideoLAN. I am trying again to get it – dodgy office connection my end I think! (If you have a download manager that might help – download restarts may be supported)…..”

    I have tried for the third time to download from the direct link I have and it is not doing it. Also, the link you have provided says “error page not found”

  • Jon

    Ah right, they’ve removed it. We were probably running their server into the ground – we’ll have to await its reposting, I guess. Darn it, nearly had it as well.

  • Mochyn69

    YouTube, Vimeo etc. are not freely available everywhere.

    Try uploading it to youku.com and ted.com

  • N_

    @Mary

    This isn’t the end of the Berezovsky story. He is protected by Britain, and a friend of the royal family. I don’t just mean the latest pap about him proposing Prince Harry for the Russian throne (yawn). Back in 2007 the Telegraph described him as having “members of royalty among his clique, including Prince Michael of Kent”. Then the curtains came down…we didn’t get to hear much more about that!

    Britain protects several Israeli-passport-holding ‘billionaires with unclear sources of wealth’ born in the former USSR, but I don’t think any others get to swagger around calling for ‘regime change by force’ in Russia, get publicly given British citizenship, are allowed to buy up half of Chancery or whatever it’s called nowadays, and whose London offices get mysteriously dirtied with polonium.

    But there was no ‘colour revolution’ in Moscow last winter, and for those who run Britain it’s more important to stay in with Putin and the Kremlin.

    Interesting that the judge said Berezovsky makes stuff up. Can we expect him to say some stuff outside the courtroom that will now be similarly pooh-poohed?

    Dig the way she crawled to Abramovich! She could have just said the burden was on Berezovsky and she didn’t find his evidence reliable, but she went further and said she found Abramovich was “truthful and reliable”! Slurrrrrpppppp!

    Since Berezovsky and Abramovich both have a lot of money invested in the UK, it will be interesting to see what happens next.

    Summary of the judgment is here.

    Interestingly, the UK tax authorities consider Berezovsky to be domiciled in Russia!

  • Fred

    It stopped on the 20 min. mark on the first attempt,then 16 min.(second) and 12 min. on the third.Any solution gratefully accepted.

  • Michael Stephenson

    I have the flv, So I guess I’ll do YT the upload since it seems no one else managed to get it in time.

  • Komodo

    @ Bert -you’re right, sorry. But there’s some illuminating stuff in there too. Watch the US helpfully telling the Israelis how to spin Cast Lead, for instance…

  • Jon

    @Michael Stephenson – many thanks indeed. I tried twice, and got 80% and 90% each time – though I am on quite an unreliable connection 🙁

    Edit: I’ll grab a copy from YouTube once it is cooked.

  • Jon

    Sunflower, excellent idea. If I get a copy I will do so – I would expect the Occupy News people would approve too.

  • Nick

    @Mary Abramovich and Beresovsky may be thoroughly nasty pieces of work, but what has them being Jewish got to do with anything?

  • Mary

    Ulster Bank aka RBS/Stephen Hester, are taking the piss. They have offered 25 Euros/£20 as compensation to those of their customers who had to attend a branch during their recent protracted computer problems. Other measly compensation is on offer if losses can be proved and claim forms are completed. You can see how that will work out.

    Ulster Bank outlines compensation scheme
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-19432497

    Non-executive directors – emoluments 2010 £182,703 2009 £167,620
    Chairman and executive directors – emoluments 2010 £2,050,677 2009 £2,137,367
    Total emoluments received by directors 2010 £2,233,380 2009 £2,304,987

    Performance related bonuses are awarded on the basis of measuring annual performance against certain specified financial targets, which include both corporate performance objectives and key strategic objectives.

    The total emoluments of the highest paid director were £683,644 (2009: £710,589). During the year the highest paid director did not exercise share options.

    The prior year emoluments figures have been restated to reflect the appropriate disclosure of employer pension contributions.

    {http://www.investors.rbs.com/download/report/UBG_Annual_report_may2011.pdf}
    This report is stuffed full with details of these troughers’ pension entitlements.

  • Mary

    Protesters invade the DWP building today following a protest outside the ATOS offices.

    Campaigners against changes to disability benefit rules invade the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) following a protest outside the offices of one of the Paralympic Games’ main sponsors Atos.

    The breakaway protest at the DWP saw campaigners gain entry to the government building. Channel 4 News’s Alex Thomson reported that 10 protesters in wheelchairs were inside the building with a 200-strong blockade outside forcing staff to use a side entrance.

    A spokesman for the department confirmed that protesters had gained entry.

    It followed a demonstration organised by Disabled People Against Cuts (DPAC) and UK Uncut outside the headquarters of Atos aimed to highlight opposition to the work capability assessments (WCA) that Atos carry out on behalf of the government.

    Campaigners claim these assessments are destroying the lives of sick and disabled people.

    /..
    http://www.channel4.com/news/disability-rights-protestors-lobby-paralympic-sponsors-hq

  • Anon

    Craig in The Register

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/30/uk_right_to_storm_ecuadorian_embassy/

    Hague also denied reports that he had taken the decision to pursue Assange against the advice of senior British diplomatic lawyers, some of whom have expressed doubts that breaching diplomatic norms would put Britain’s overseas offices at risk.

    “We took these decisions together in the Foreign Office with a good deal of agreement,” Hague said. This view is not shared by many, including former British ambassador Craig Murray.

    “The domestic legislation of a country cannot counter its obligations in international law, unless it chooses to withdraw from them,” Murray wrote. “If the government does not wish to follow the obligations imposed on it by the Vienna Convention, it has the right to resign from it – which would leave British diplomats with no protection worldwide.”

    This El Reg hack is no lawyer, but Murray seems to have a point. When the police laid seige to the Libyan embassy after the Fletcher shooting, the late and little-lamented Muammar Gaddafi surrounded the local British embassy and six British nationals were held hostage for over nine months before being released.

    While the UK government claims to have legal right on its side, many in the international community are not so sure. Storming the embassy to snatch Assange could open other countries to taking a similarly relaxed view to the legitimacy of British diplomatic premises. ®

  • Jonangus Mackay

    Don’t Mention the War. Craven Apple censors won’t risk annoying providers of fat military contracts. Additional consideration: brand image; i.e. guilt/increased fear of exposure for supply of battlefield iPhones to manipulate midget killer drones. Surefire growing market. But deadly uncool.
    .
    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/08/drone-app/

  • Steve Cook

    “@Michael Stephenson

    YT failed, as vid was too long. Am going to try Veoh.”

    You Tube only allows individual vids of 10 mins I think, so you would have to chop into roughly 14 parts and upload sperately

  • Steve Cook

    based on roughly 100 mb per 10 mins and a vid size of 1.4 gb if I remember correctly,

  • Michael Stephenson

    Steve, I’ve limited my UP on the torrent too 100kb/s while I am uploading to vimeo, I was getting an up of about 350kb/s before. I’ll set back to unlimited when the upload to Vimeo is done. I know at least 1 leecher has 100% of the file.

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