Not Forgetting the al-Hillis 22282


The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.

Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:

the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?

The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.

Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:

Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.

There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.

But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.

The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?


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  • bluebird

    French TOTAL CEO de Margerie (involved in the Iraqi oil for food scandal – we discussed that here) killed in Moscow plane crash.

    His private jet crashes into a snow vehicle during takeoff. Driver of the snow vehicle was totally drunk. He had no authority driving that vehicle, Ria Novosti says. 3 more airport employees under investigation for wrongdoing.

    De Margerie’s last interview on Bloomberg in July 2014:

    http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-05/total-s-de-margerie-sees-no-need-for-dollars-in-oil-purchases.html

    “Nothing prevents anyone from paying for oil in euros,” de Margerie told journalists at the Cercle des Economistes conference in Aix-en-Provence, France. “The price of a barrel of oil is quoted in dollars. A refinery can take that price and using the euro-dollar exchange rate on any given day, agree to make the payment in euros.”

    The remarks from the head of France’s largest oil company are the latest in a debate sparked by an $8.97 billion fine slapped by the U.S. on French bank BNP Paribas SA (BNP) for transactions carried out in dollars in countries facing American sanctions.

    Also read the readers comments in that Bloomberg article written by “Austin Knapp” from back jn July!

  • Pink

    No source found this on pprune

    http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-flying-ga-etc/549711-private-jet-crashed-moscow-airport-vnukovo-4-killed-2.html

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    Russian prosecutors claim the driver of the snowplow which crashed with Total CEO Christophe de Margerie’s jet was drunk. His lawyer, however, says he was completely sober, due to a heart condition preventing him from drinking.
    “My client is suffering from an acute heart condition; he does not drink at all and his relatives and friends can testify to that,” Aleksandr Karabanov, the lawyer, said.
    “He was sober at the time of the crash,” he also said, adding that a number of lawyers will be involved in Martynenkov’s defense. “We don’t want the blame for the accident to fall on an ordinary man,” he added.
    Karabanov also made clear that he will insist on an independent expertise to determine the presence of alcohol in his client’s bloodstream.

  • bluebird

    The killed de Margerie was a chairman of the
    annual “franco-allemandes d’Evian” economic/political meeting of french and german corporations.

    Note the date of the 2014 meeting in Evian!

    http://www.ledauphine.com/haute-savoie/2014/09/05/harlem-desir-aux-rencontres-franco-allemandes-bzue

    Now note the date of the 2012 meeting!

    http://www.ambafrance-de.org/Rencontres-franco-allemandes-d,9725 Franco-allemandes d’Evian

    L’Ambassadeur a participé, du 6 au 8 septembre, aux rencontres franco-allemandes d’Evian, qui rassemblent chaque année, depuis leur création en 1992, les grands chefs d’entreprises et les principaux acteurs politiques et économiques de France et d’Allemagne. Différents sujets d’intérêt commun y ont été abordés et débattus pendant deux jours. Les problématiques énergétiques et migratoires ont figuré en particulier à l’ordre du jour des rencontres 2012.

  • Pink

    I just saw a video on sky news and the grass was green no sign of any snow so what would the snow plough be out for ?

  • Pink

    Q I think you meant thanks BB for the September 2012 reminder, I am not that up on world affairs so cannot take the credit,I was just keeping an eye on the plane crash story .

  • bluebird

    i remember that there were sept 2014 killings in the Evian area, too. Michael Norton might find more Evian coincidences. Evian (Haute Savoie) isnt far from Geneve and Annecy.

  • michael norton

    Just to remind ourselves
    it is now than a month since the 65 year old eX-pat Glenn Miller was shot through the neck whilst sat in the living room in the farmhouse of his “uncle”,
    which locals say now belongs to his “sister”

    I wonder if the French have had an autopsy done?

  • michael norton

    Glenn Miller

    I wonder if the French have determined what weapon/projectile was used to murder Glenn.

    I wonder if they have any clues?

  • michael norton

    Glenn Miller

    I wonder if the French
    have managed to track down the supposed owner of the property,
    the “sister” of Glenn Miller,
    she might have a clue why he was murdered?

  • michael norton

    Pink, it has been said that the Saudis are rather uncomfortable that the reset of the World is desparately trying to gain energy supplies that do not come from the Arab World.
    The Americans are going completely flat out for fracked Methane and for fracked oil,
    Canada has also gone for tar sands.
    The U.K. has gone for deep sea drilling and is thinking of going for fracking.
    Solar power is going to be huge in the very near future and may come to dominate electricity supplies.
    Graphene will be huge,
    with super-conductivity at room temperature / massively increased capacity of capacitors and so on, which will utterly reverlutionise power storage and distribution.
    The Saudis are worried they are being side-lined on purpose.
    All Saudi Arabia have to do is produce a constant income, they do this by turning the taps more open or less open, the actual price is not so important to them, as long as they have a regular income but what they most certainly do not want is to become irrevelant.
    What the Americans want to do is make them irrevelant as quickly as possible.
    There are massive tensions in the world of fuel supply and most certainly prominent people are being put in prison and murdered to alter the descision making processes of fuel companies.

  • Q

    From: http://www.forbes.com/profile/christophe-margerie/

    “Mr. de Margerie joined the Group after graduating from the Ecole Superieure de Commerce in Paris in 1974. He served in several positions in the Group’s Finance Department and Exploration & Production division. In 1995, he was appointed President of Total Middle East. In May 1999, he joined the Executive Committee as President of the Exploration & Production division. He then became Senior Executive Vice President of Exploration & Production of the new TotalFinaElf group in 2000. In January 2002, he became President of the Exploration & Production division of TOTAL. He was appointed a member of the Board of Directors by the Shareholders’ Meeting held on May 12, 2006 and became Chief Executive Officer of TOTAL on February 14, 2007. On May 21, 2010, he was named Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of TOTAL. Mr. de Margerie is also a Director of the Institut du monde arabe.”

    More:

    http://www.leparisien.fr/politique/petrole-contre-nourriture-pasqua-et-total-renvoyes-en-correctionnelle-02-08-2011-1553068.php#xtref=http%3A%2F%2Factualites.leparisien.fr%2Fchristophe%2Bde%2Bmargerie_groupe_saddam%2Bhussein.html

    “L’ancien ministre Charles Pasqua, le groupe Total et son PDG Christophe de Margerie sont renvoyés devant le tribunal correctionnel de Paris pour des malversations présumées dans le programme de l’ONU en Irak «Pétrole contre nourriture», a-t-on appris mardi de source judiciaire….””

  • michael norton

    Pink,
    I forgot to mention the French Nuclear Elephant.
    As we have discovered,
    almost all Nuclear fuel for consumption in France comes from Niger.
    This powers the hundred or so Nuclear Reactors in France and provides most of the electricity in France ( and some of the U.K. juice too).
    Britain and France both sit at the top table of the United Nations Permanent Security Council,
    this is in part because they used to control the World’s largest empires but also because they both hold large nuclease forces.

    The French and the Americans are building a centre of drone activity in The Sahara,
    there is a war going on with the Islamists in many, many countries of the Sahara.
    The French will not be failing in this war because the Americans will not let them fail

  • michael norton

    I got some of that wrong,
    75% of the electricity produced in France is from Nuclear Reactors, the highest proportion of any state in the World but France currently has 59 reactors,
    not about 100.

    i wouldn’t mind betting That The Slaughter of the horses Incident is about nuclear power in France.

  • Tim Veater

    murders that are never explained or solved Pink
    21 Oct, 2014 – 6:04 pm. I discussed the mysterious “accident” of Courtney Allan here http://inquiringminds.cc/the-curious-case-of-courtney-allan-was-it-just-another-workplace-accident-or-something-more-sinister-with-connections-to-911-or-china-tim-veater
    He had miraculously survived 9/11 a relatively short time before. French police were typically pretty hopeless. His Chinese/Hong Kong Shipping magnet employers/owners were positively obstructed.

    Incidentally you have probably noticed leading Turkish investigative journalist Serena Shim has just been fatally “accidented” just now. Just more of the same.

  • Tim Veater

    looks like another bullseye for you Bluebird
    21 Oct, 2014 – 1:24 pm. so what is this evian thing (apart from the obvious!)?

  • Tim Veater

    Bluebird
    21 Oct, 2014 – 8:27 am we know about Saddam’s fatal move, replicated by Gaddafi (to trade oil in euros or something other than dollars) was this his mistake also and how does this play out on french american relations, part. if france helped US in chevaline and elsewhere? Syria is obviously current main focus but chad/nigeria/sierra leone et al have become a secondary one with a rather convenient outbreak of deadly disease. Significantly the troops sent in to west africa were crack fighters with not a medic in sight (apparently!) what joins all these dots is energy – oil, nuclear, gas – but that’s just coincidence, of course.

  • Tim Veater

    then there is this re. ebola (there’s no doubt we are dealing with a complex web of interconnected issues and players. nothing in this is simple or straight forward)

    “The Centre International de Recherches Medicales de Franceville (CIRMF) is a bilateral research center for infectious diseases in humans and primates, founded in 1979. Its Board of Directors includes officials of the Gabon government and the French-owned petroleum corporation Total. One of the world’s six major oil transnationals, Total extracts oil at Port Gentil in Gabon. Its operations have been at the center of controversy involving unpaid local taxes and riots by local supporters of the opposition parties.

    Total has a financial connection with Sanofi pharmaceutical company, which was a key suspect in possible covert drug testing in Guinea, as exposed in Part 3 of this series. Sanofi was founded in 1973 as a subdivision of Elf Aquitaine, a predecessor oil company merged into Total. The French oil corporation still has a less than 5 percent share holding in Sanofi, smaller than before but still quite significant. Total also has major interests in the oil basin of the Gulf of Guinea (Conakry). Therefore, the two pandemics could be motivated by petroleum interests.

    Following a 1979 ebola outbreak in Gabon, the French government funded the CIRMF BioSafety Level 3+ lab, designated to handle highly contagious diseases. CIRMF is one of two research centers in Africa qualified to handle Risk 3/4 highly contagious diseases, including ebola. Located in a former uranium-mining town in southeast Gabon, its facilities include a large wild primate research facility housing 450 apes.

    As the major center for ebola research in Central Africa connected with French strategic interests, CIRMF joins the suspect list for the West African outbreak. It is not inconceivable from a Machiavellian standpoint that a covert destabilization program was organized to increase French Africa’s dependency on France’s advanced biomedical base.” http://inquiringminds.cc/re-uk-911-truth-ebola-out-of-gabon-congo-was-smuggled-into-west-africa-ian-henshall

  • Tim Veater

    “Even with a language edge, it is strange that the Winnipeg-based National Microbiology Laboratory (NML-C), the same institute that was working on isolating two of there antibodies in the ZMapp drug cocktail, was operating in the Equatorial tropics in 2003.”

    The public-funded lab was present in Gabon because its then director, Heinz Feldman, has deep background in secret work for the German military, as a graduate of University of Marburg and a researcher at the Bundeswehr’s biowarfare facility, leading centers for the study of ebola as a weapon of mass destruction. His posting in Manitoba, along with fellow German colleagues, is the legacy of top-secret Operation Matchbox, under which the British MI-5 spy service relocated hundreds of Nazi scientists to Canada and Australia to continue their development of weapons of mass destruction.

    The Bundeswehr Institute of Microbiology, a military laboratory based in Munich, is traditionally focused on two biowarfare agents:”

    WDM , Britain, Germany since WW1 have been cutting edge helped along the way by gas chambers and Porton Down. See how Germany is very far out of the picture, on the one hand (it is claimed) running cia from ww2 onwards but also subservient and beneficiary of american foreign policy. then we have the complicated jewish connection obviously, love/hate, continued with israel whilst the Russian revolution largely run by jews. sorry to ramble but as with China, rather than what “they” need us to believe – the cowboys and indians, the good guys/bad guys, the white hats/skins/uniforms/black hats/skins/ISIS robes – it’s one crazy mixed up mess in which everyone is up to their eyes in corruption, deceit and violence where only selfish objectives rule and ordinary people invariably suffer and die. As that long haired comedian bloke said, globally we need a paradigm shift.

  • Pink

    @ Tim
    Would that be Russell , he’s mad as a box of frogs but kinda a cute to us girls not that I would rely on his advice 🙂

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