The mainstream media for the most part has moved on. But there are a few more gleanings to be had, of perhaps the most interesting comes from the Daily Mirror, which labels al-Hilli an extremist on the grounds that he was against the war in Iraq, disapproved of the behaviour of Israel and had doubts over 9/11 – which makes a great deal of the population “extremist”. But the Mirror has the only mainstream mention I can find of the possibility that Mossad carried out the killings. Given Mr al-Hilli’s profession, the fact he is a Shia, the fact he had visited Iran, and the fact that Israel heas been assassinating scientists connected to Iran’s nuclear programme, this has to be a possibility. There are of course other possibilities, but to ignore that one is ludicrous.
Which leads me to the argument of Daily Mail crime reporter, Stephen Wright, that the French police should concentrate on the idea that this was a killing by a random Alpine madman or racist bigot. Perfectly possible, of course, and the anti-Muslim killings in Marseille might be as much a precedent as Mossad killings of scientists. But why the lone madman idea should be the preferred investigation, Mr Wright does not explain. What I did find interesting from a man who has visited many crime scenes are his repeated insinuations that the French authorities are not really trying very hard to find who the killers were, for example:
the crime scene would have been sealed off for a minimum of seven to ten days, to allow detailed forensic searches for DNA, fibres, tyre marks and shoe prints to take place.
Nearby bushes and vegetation would have been searched for any discarded food and cigarette butts left by the killer, not to mention the murder weapon.
But from what I saw at the end of last week, no such searches had taken place and potentially vital evidence could have been missed. House to house inquiries in the local area had yet to be completed and police had not made specific public appeals for information about the crime. No reward had been put up for information about the shootings.
Behind the scenes, what other short cuts have been taken? Have police seized data identifying all mobile phones being used in the vicinity of the murders that day?
The idea that the French authorities – who are quite as capable as any other of solving cases – are not really trying very hard is an interesting one.
Which leads me to this part of a remarkable article from the Daily Telegraph, which if true points us back towards a hit squad and discounts the ides that there was only one gun:
Claims that only one gun was used to kill everybody is likely to be disproved by full ballistics test results which are out in October.
While the 25 spent bullet cartridges found at the scene are all of the same kind, they could in fact have come from a number of weapons of the same make.
This throws up the possibility of a well-equipped, highly-trained gang circling the car and then opening fire.
Both children were left alive by the killers, who had clinically pumped bullets into everybody else, including five into Mr Mollier.
Zainab was found staggering around outside the car by Brett Martin, a British former RAF serviceman who cycled by moments after the attack, but he saw nobody except the schoolgirl.
Her sister, Zeena, was found unscathed and hiding in the car eight hours later.
Both sisters are now back in Britain, and are believed to have been reunited at a secret location near London.
There are of course a number of hit squad options, both governmental and private, which might well involve iraqi or Iranian interests – on both of which the mainstream media have been very happy to speculate while almost unanimously ignoring Israel.
But what interests me is why the Daily Telegraph choose, in the face of all the evidence, to minimise the horrific nature of the attack by stating that “Both children were left alive by the killers”? Zainab was not left alive by design, she was shot in the chest and her skull was stove in, which presumably was a pretty serious attempt to kill a seven year-old child. The other girl might very well have succeeded in hiding from the killers under her mother’s skirts, as she hid from the first rescuers, and then for eight hours from the police.
The Telegraph article claims to be informed by sources close to the investigation. So they believe it was a group of people, and feel motivated to absolve those people from child-killing. Now what could the Daily Telegraph be thinking?
A woman Belgium doctor detained in Paris for EBOLA
http://www.ledauphine.com/france-monde/2014/10/18/ebola-un-cas-possible-detecte-ce-matin-a-roissy
Here’s the article, run through Google Translate. It’s a matter of fools having fun stupidly, according to Eric Maillaud.
From: http://www.letemps.ch/Page/Uuid/c6c4e834-bcad-11e1-94e6-c43e25c2bf42/Meurtres_dans_les_jardins_du_Chablais
“Murders in the gardens of the Chablais
Christian Lecomte
Peaceful hamlets near Thonon-les-Bains was the scene of three murders and one attempt. Any shooters targeting retirees. No link has yet been established between these cases
He sweats, press hard on the pedals, nods. The road to the Hermitage, above Thonon, is steep. “The Road Map-Cabaret, you know?” No sorry to put a foot down, the cyclist, 70, says he knows because he lives in Lonnaz, a hamlet above. “You come for the murder? Since this dirty business, I do not lag behind in my garden, I ride my bike, it’s less dangerous.” He looks at the lake in the distance, shrouded in mist.” Marcel, I saw him once in a while, a man without stories, a bon vivant who had his hand on the heart. It’s a crazy who killed, there is no other explanation “He cycles and runs.” Do not write my name, everyone is afraid here.”
Monday, May 14, 2012, around 16h, Desbiolles Marcel, 76, retired Stationery Geneva, was hit in the chest by a bullet while gardening. He died a week later. The mystery remains to this day total. His family, wife, children, grandchildren, are walled in silence.
Path Plan-Cabaret, a dozen houses are alike, grass, closed shutters. The son of the electric bell of Desbiolles are torn, to deter journalists. What’s happening on the mountains of Chablais? It’s an old lady – she also did not give his name – met her at the butcher of Armoy, the large town from above, who replies: “The newspapers are saying that there is a serial killer draws on pensioners home, four or five people in all, it traumatized us. ”
Specifically, four victims of snipers. A series that began in 1995 by Pierre Marchal, shot him in the back, at his home in Lugrin near Evian. Then Jean-Pierre Mayor, sixty, in October 2009 target of two shots to ten days apart at his home in Post. He survived. Then Jacky Meynet, 60, was killed May 16 by a bullet in the neck while he was dining in the kitchen in Champanges. Finally Marcel Desbiolles. The brigade search Chambery, investigating, is tight-lipped.
Common: the same measurement procedure, the shooter sometimes crouched over a hundred meters, the victims were all retired except Pierre Marchal (51 years old at his death), all residing within a radius of 10 km, all were unknown police and all these cases remain unsolved. But weapons are different: .22 long rifle, shotgun, pistol Drulov.
Eric Maillaud, prosecutor Annecy, summarizes: “Cross-checks are of course made but the investigation is not directed to a profile of serial killer because the facts are widely spaced in time. But it does not close the door to that possibility. ”
The victims knew they? In principle, no, “but if you go back to the back of each grandmother, we necessarily find a link” quips Eric Maillaud. Another question: why so many unsolved crimes in such a short period? Two gentlemen, on the terrace of the Echo Mountain, hotel and restaurant Armoy: “Here we are used to the mystery. In the 80s, to Lonnaz, daughter Peillex was stunned to death, not guilty. And then Lisoto cases, Thonon, a guy who was in his sixties and was beheaded, they never found the head or the one who cut off. ”
Gaston Lacroix, the mayor of the municipality of Post, who for ten years was a colleague of Marcel Desbiolles, added: “One day it was there three years ago, I saw one of my town hall workers From like every day at 17h, it has put away his pen, went home, put the chicken thighs to thaw for her husband and children and then nothing since, more news, disappeared, no trace of Use credit card, phone, nothing … ”
Armoy-Champanges, 12 kilometers by road running. Industrial area of Clos du Chêne. Again it is written on a large hangar Meynet abandoned that housed the company Jacky. He had to retreat, trying to sell. The Family Pavilion is nearby. A garage, a little tired, just said: “With Jacky, we said hello, hello, that’s all. The stories, the scam, it does not concern me. “Fallen Angel hinted the prosecutor at the time, because Jacky would have been two or three other women in his life. But the hypothesis was rejected. Another hypothesis pro-style offense, because the region is fierce fight to win markets. A local journalist said: “Among the Italians, Turks, Portuguese and natives, this is war.”
The widow of Jacky Meynet, reached by telephone, will not talk, “I live a nightmare, I know nothing, I have confidence in the police.” Four days after his death, the family cottage was visited at night and searched thoroughly.
Champanges-Post, 5 km. Needless to find the trace of Mayor Jean-Pierre, who escaped two attempted murders. He left the area, probably even changed identity. We understand that. He was for twenty years the number two police Thonon, held before the police headquarters in Paris. A reckoning for her previous activity?
Post-Lugrin, 10 km and a longer back in time because the case dates back to December 28, 1995, Pierre Marchal, math teacher, councilman left opposition. Handsome, brash, quick to blame the developers lawless and promote the rehabilitation of schools and other public spaces. One oddity though: it has acquired the lake in a house with tower and beach. A luxury that does not fit with the character. Another element disclosed in a close case: the police have found in his photos and videos “charming” and women’s underwear, thongs. Nothing wrong. But the disturbing possibility of the existence of a secret garden … File closed in 2002 Back in Armoy, with the old lady of the butchers. She swears Marcel Desbiolles can not be mixed with any dirty business. “He took my old husband, who is 88 years old, the market Thonon, a perfect household, they came to eat with us several times, there was not, as we say, from under them . ”
Gaston Lacroix, Mayor Post agrees: “Marcel, the nice guy, a simple and honest life, it was Foreman both the Stationery was a joker, a sacred athlete who never left alone skiing, he had the world in the company. It has nothing to do with some settings or with huge financial stakes in the region. “Above the pavilion Desbiolles, Thonon forest nearby, where the shot is gone, and its fitness trail that attracts many people. Gunshots are often heard, hunters, poachers, drunken teenagers who play war with real weapons. Eric Maillaud believe in the hypothesis of random bullet. “Fools having fun stupidly, there are in the area.””
http://www.ledauphine.com/haute-savoie/2012/05/15/blessure-par-arme-a-feu-l-enquete-s-annonce-difficile
“The questions gave way to amazement yesterday in the village of Armoy on the heights of Thonon. “It’s hard to imagine that such a tragedy could happen here,” commented laconically, a waterfront residential road map of highly-Cabaret. Monday, shortly before 4:00 p.m., Marcel Desbiolles collapsed in his garden, hit in the throat by the firing of a firearm (read our edition of yesterday). The man was still in a coma yesterday, his prognosis remains engaged.
The circumstances of the tragedy, investigators do not know much at the moment. “We have no witness. We just know that the victim was in the process of gardening. It was his wife who found her. She came out of the house when she heard the noise. But nobody in the neighborhood saw or heard anything, “says Eric Maillaud, prosecutor of Annecy, where the file was relocated.
“We do not have a shadow of a track”
All assumptions are therefore being “lost ball, murder, stupid game, handling accident … We do not have a shadow of a track. The survey looks extremely complicated, “admits the representative of the prosecution.
Marcel Desbiolles is described as a “septuagenarian discreet” by his neighbors. Retired, nothing about his family life and his activities led to the moment “a clear path to dig.” Another factor that could greatly complicate the task of investigators: the ball is literally disintegrated in the body of the victim. “Surely we will establish the size, but it may be impossible to know if it is a weapon already used” says the prosecutor. Reconciled with other criminal cases is it credible? Yes. At this point, the prosecutor excludes nothing, not even “a crazed gunman who kills every year.”
Since 1995, the Chablais has indeed undergone three previous unsolved: the murder of Pierre Marchal, killed by a sniper stationed outside his home, in Lugrin; the contractor Jacky Meynet, removed in similar circumstances at his home in Champanges mid-May 2011 and the double assault suffered by Mayor Jean-Pierre, a retired police officer in the fall of 2009, seriously injuring the second attempt.”
By Virginia Borlet | Published on 16/05/2012 at 6:01
“Crazed gunman who kills every year”: Eric Maillaud’s postulation.
Quite a few senior police officers and retired police officers seem to get murdered or suicided in France, I wonder if the body thrown down Les Gorges du Fier, three miles from the police Headquarters in Annecy, then drowned, then clibes up the cliffs and hangs himself from a tree,
was an eX-policeman?
I wonder if the eX-Legionnair/eX-paratrooper/mountainman/sapeur-pompier
was also an eX-policeman,
have they graced him with a name yet or said what weapons were used in the “suicide”?
How is Eric Devouassoux is getting on
now he is an eX-policeman?
Not just Socialist France that has a corrupt police force
2,000 coppers bent in the U.K.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2798182/at-2-000-corrupt-police-officers-suspected-tipping-criminals-stealing-fabricating-evidence-using-power-money-sex-says-home-office-report.html
Right now, the political corruption cases are being honored Pierre Morange, UMP and Mayor of Chambourcy would be on the spot, according to Le Nouvel Observateur.
Whose fault is it?
His ex-wife, who accused him of making exercise a fictitious job.
“I occupied at the same time work as nurses at night. He told me that this was common practice. But he fired me because the election approaching, it must be beyond reproach,” she explains.
For four years, Veronique Goens-Morange was hired by her husband in parliamentary attaché quality, as indicated Médiapart.
She admits fraud in a handwritten letter to the prosecutor of Versailles. Then questioned, it justifies its denouncement by certificates work, one signed by Pierre Morange, the other by his real employer, the director of the clinic where she is registered nurse, part-time permanent contract.
In total, this little sleight of hand would have brought 2,700 euros net per month, and unemployment benefits following his dismissal at the approach of the campaign of 1800 euros per month for this position that she would never occupied .
While in that time, in England, MPs are pinning for a lesser expense report and resign as soon as possible, if the spouses Morange was treated very discreetly, and even filed away.
According to Mr. Eric Harm, lawyer Pierre Morange, “The no further dates back about six months. Prosecutors estimated that there was a lack of concrete evidence in this case.”
Meanwhile, Pierre Morange declined to say more on the subject …
It’s a little hospital that mocks the charity from the member who, on June 5, complained to the Assembly “fiscal fraud [which] is, in its various forms, a reached intolerable to our social compact. ”
But how, when is a political, increasingly publicized spied dissected by the media, can you still think above the law, imagine that such small arrangements will never be updated?
http://archives-lepost.huffingtonpost.fr/article/2009/06/14/1577769_emploi-fictif-l-ex-femme-de-pierre-morange-depute-ump-temoigne-vengeance.html
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For an insight into high level corruption involving government, MI6, drugs, Spanish private detectives, MSN, mysterious judicial immunity all around the McCanns see not unrelated to Chevaline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIjPcvmVzUo
note involvement of Australia again and the way in which lies and false leads are fed to the press who dutifully just replicating them without any effort to test or enquire. Where have we seen this elsewhere? It is standard protocol. As with Chevaline, the answer to the crime itself, however horrific, is overtaken by by the question, what about it demands a sophisticated diversionary and cover-up operation that directly involves the highest levels of government. Only the most sinister and dark explanations akin to the hidden and destructive hyphae of dry rot, infecting all levels of church and state with dividers never far from the action.
can start to explain it.
and I am sure we came cross Freud Communications before also. can anyone remember in connection with what? I can remember referring to them but for the life of me I can’t remember why.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freud_Communications
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Lurin — again
carpenters — again
A fire broke out late yesterday afternoon, in the business of carpentry, roofing and sheet metal work Lugrin. 100 m² floor were burning in the fire department, both on the premises that house the refectory of the company and outside of buildings. The production site would, however, not affected. Fifteen firefighters Evian and Thonon were mobilized and quickly confined the fire.
http://www.ledauphine.com/haute-savoie/2014/10/18/incendie-dans-une-societe-de-charpente
That’s Lugrin, Haute-Savoie
scene of various murders
A man in his forties was shot dead on Saturday afternoon between Laneuveville and Art-sur-Meurthe.
http://www.estrepublicain.fr/faits-divers/2014/10/19/abattu-le-long-de-la-route
Since arson seems to be a factor in Lugrin, what about mystery fires in Ugine/Grignon in 2012? Not forgetting the pompiers.
a 32 year old male was referred and indicted for manslaughter in connection with the Marcel Desbiolles case.
Investigation was based specifically on ammunition used,
unusual, long distance balls.
http://www.francebleu.fr/infos/infos/haute-savoie-un-meurtre-elucide-plus-de-2-ans-apres-les-faits-1856322
Matthew Voisin, the shooter lives in Bellevaux, Haute-Savoie
Now a few questions crop up.
1) why would someone who is a hunter and lives in an extremely remote area,
need to practice by firing towards somebodies home/garden?
2) Why would you need a very long range ball?
My answer to 1) is that only a madman or somebody intending to kill or terrify another person would do this.
My answer to 2) is as sniper ammunition, probably home made.
So my guess this should not be a charge of manslaughter but of culpable homicide.
I do not really know what culpable homicide is.
I should have just said murder.
The aged citizens of this area have been terrified for years by having pot-shots fires at them from a distance.
Yesterday a 32 year old male was referred and indicted for manslaughter in connection with the Marcel Desbiolles case.
Indicted late Wednesday morning after a prolonged detention of 48 hours, the suspect arrested in connection with the Marcel Desbiolles case, was put on probation. “He is a man perfectly inserted,” the prosecutor, Eric Maillaud.
Aged 32, Matthew Voisin remains in Chablais, he is an employee of the company Evian mineral water and practice regular hunting.
By probation,
does Eric Maillaud mean that this 32 year old man is released?
Some industrial fires:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wq63izm-Z0
http://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/alpes/2013/11/22/gros-incendie-dans-une-menuiserie-ugine-savoie-362711.html
A bicycle/gun incident:
http://www.lasavoie.fr/Actualite/Fil_Infos_regionales/article_1844281.shtml
This is interesting, too:
http://www.lasavoie.fr/Actualite/Fil_Infos_regionales/article_1844178.shtml
The Savoie/Haute-Savoie is plagued with crime of all sorts, fires and bizarre incidents:
http://www.lasavoie.fr/Actualite/Fil_Infos_regionales/article_1821877.shtml
http://www.lasavoie.fr/Actualite/Fil_Infos_regionales/article_1810065.shtml
http://www.lasavoie.fr/Actualite/Fil_Infos_regionales/article_1835068.shtml
Being a tradesman/carpenter is very dangerous to one’s mental and physical safety in those parts.
Just a sample from:
http://www.lasavoie.fr/Actualite/Faits_Divers/
Pink
19 Oct, 2014 – 1:34 pm – that one:
“Updated at 12 pm
This is a man “known to police services” for his involvement in cases of a criminal nature, said the prosecutor Nancy. “All tracks are open” for the time in the investigation of the murder without witnesses, the prosecutor added, saying an autopsy would be held Tuesday to determine how many such bullets had struck the victim. These are drivers who had reported Saturday afternoon the presence of a man lying unconscious next to his vehicle on a county near Laneuveville, southeast of Nancy.
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No, ma’am, no password. Turn around. ” The officer on duty in the middle of the road, just outside Laneuveville a peripheral municipality of Nancy. Facing him, yet another motorist asked curiously, “What the hell is going on? “No response. You just turn around.
The policeman is firm. A little worn. But there is courteous. This makes the hours that pushes cars, bikes and walkers. It is there to prevent access to part of the county along the 126 Meurthe Laneuveville and connects the village of Art-sur-Meurthe. Two or three miles away, one of his colleagues did the same thing in the other direction. The stretch of road was blocked on Saturday at about 15 pm after motorists found a man about forty years lying unconscious beside the road next to his car.
Alerted, firefighters and medical EMS team went out there and tried to resuscitate the victim. In vain. The forties died. The police then took over relief and invested the crime scene. Since the death of forty is not natural. He succumbed to gunshot wounds. We shot him several times. How much? Nothing certain yet.
“No leads at this time”
What is certain, however, is that it took place at the edge of the county 126 In open country. The nearest residence is several hundred meters away on the other side of the Meurthe.
A forty lives there. She saw nothing. “My children were playing on the console, they heard nothing. I thought I heard like a snap. At first, I did not pay attention. That’s when he saw the police and firefighters that I thought about it, “she says. His father, aged 78, who was doing gardening heard “sounds of firecrackers.” But he saw nothing. The murder had no eyewitness and the investigation will be difficult. She was assigned to SRPJ Nancy. A disturbing element can guide their investigations, the victim who is domiciled in Greater Nancy, was a known offender police. From there to imagine a reckoning, there is only one step it is far too early to pass. “We have no leads at this time,” says Peter Jund, the prosecutor on duty who visited the scene of the murder.
An autopsy on the body of the deceased will take place early this week. It may provide investigators with valuable clues about the circumstances of the murder.”
Some rainy day reading by “Garotte_74”:
http://mercury.ethz.ch/serviceengine/Files/ISN/141573/ipublicationdocument_singledocument/a948cd4b-c1f7-483a-8676-c71657fb247a/fr/Garrote_74.pdf
“L’affaire Kopp” is mentioned.
http://www.lenouvelliste.ch
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/switzerland-struggles-to-rid-itself-of-crime-networks/2506238
For more on the Kopps, “Marching To Zion” by Gyeorgos Ceres Hatonn, p. 159, covers the 1981 transfer of $2 billion by the Iraqi government to Mrs. Kopp’s firm. $1.84 billion vanished.
The book also states that the U.S. DOD and the CIA were part of a cover-up.
Elizabeth Ikle Kopp is the cousin of this man:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/nov/16/cold-war-strategist-ikle-dies-ex-pentagon-leader/?page=all
Another view of the Kopps:
http://www.whale.to/b/mullins17.html
French TOTAL CEO de Margerie (involved in the Iraqi oil for food scandal – we discussed that here) killed in Moscow plane crash.
His private jet crashes into a snow vehicle during takeoff. Driver of the snow vehicle was totally drunk. He had no authority driving that vehicle, Ria Novosti says. 3 more airport employees under investigation for wrongdoing.
De Margerie’s last interview on Bloomberg in July 2014:
http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-05/total-s-de-margerie-sees-no-need-for-dollars-in-oil-purchases.html
“Nothing prevents anyone from paying for oil in euros,” de Margerie told journalists at the Cercle des Economistes conference in Aix-en-Provence, France. “The price of a barrel of oil is quoted in dollars. A refinery can take that price and using the euro-dollar exchange rate on any given day, agree to make the payment in euros.”
The remarks from the head of France’s largest oil company are the latest in a debate sparked by an $8.97 billion fine slapped by the U.S. on French bank BNP Paribas SA (BNP) for transactions carried out in dollars in countries facing American sanctions.
Also read the readers comments in that Bloomberg article written by “Austin Knapp” from back jn July!