Wholesale Murder of Africans

by craig on October 26, 2012 10:04 am in Uncategorized

Of 110 containers of pharmaceuticals entering West Africa searched in a special operation coordinated by the World Customs Organisation (WCO), 84 were found to contain fake pharmaceuticals. 82 million doses of fake medicine were confiscated which included anti-malarial and anti-HIV drugs and antibiotics.

Here in sub-Saharan Africa, over two children die every minute of malaria – which in 98% of cases can be cured with US $6 worth of genuine drugs. A spokesman for the WCO on BBC World Service radio last night said that the number of deaths caused directly by counterfeit medicine in Africa every year was in the hundreds of thousands. He called it “genocide”.

I might not use that word, but it is beyond doubt true that supplying counterfeit drugs to Africa causes more deaths than narcotics, than the wars in Syria, Afghanistan and the rest of the Middle East combined, and several hundred times more deaths than terrorism.

The supply of fake life-saving drugs to the world’s poorest people is not only on a far greater scale than terrorism, it is morally just as evil, killing innocent civilian populations, particularly children, on an unimaginable scale of slaughter.

So why does this terrible evil receive virtually no mainstream media exposure? Is it because it happens to Africans, and the media coverage of Africa is so negative and relentlessly concentrated on disaster that it leads to a perception that the natural state of Africans is to die of disease?

It is worth noting that this terrible crime is being committed against Africa from outside – almost none of the fake pharmaceuticals are made in Africa. Here in Ghana I know the good people at the Food and Drugs Administration; they are well organised, well-qualified and well-equipped. But they are fighting a huge tide of fake drugs and organised crime on a massive scale.

In Ghana the fake drugs come overwhelngly from China amd India, and I suspect that is true across the BRICS. This terrible dark side – the WCO estimates that the counterfeit drugs trade yields profits of US$9 billion a year – should be borne in mind when considering the success of the BRICS and their possible counterweight to Western influence in foreign affairs.

India and China have vastly more economic resources and greater government control than the African states whose people are the victims of this evil trade. The word “genocide” used by the WCO spokesman causes you to think in this case, because this is mass killing perpetrated by Asians against Africans. The exporting states must face up to their moral obligation to take responsibility for the quality control of the manufacture of their exports, and in particular for controls at ports to ensure fake drugs are not exported.

The United Nations and the World Health Organisation should take action to ensure that the xporting state has a legal obligation effectively to stop the export of counterfeit drugs, with effective redress for victim states against the exporting state.

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  1. Do you think western politicians could be persuaded to help sort this one out if it was pointed out to them that it’s rather a novelty as a campaign issue in that it possibly really isn’t “our side’s” fault?

  2. Craig.
    You don’t say whether the “fakes” are found to be ineffective drugs with no medicinal value, or generic copies. Fake doesn’t necessarily mean bad.
    The pharmaceutical companies charge exploitative prices. In the case of anti-malarial drugs, much cheaper non-branded copies are available which are just as effective and can treat 10 people for every one paying for the “real” thing.

  3. Medialens has done recently done a great piece on the whole murky business.
    They first quote at length from Ben Goldacre’s new book which demonstrates conclusively how the pharma business manipulate the testing procedures to get their drugs on the market regardless of efficacy or even safety. Then they just as devastatingly conclude that Ben Goldacre is part of the problem rather than the solution, him being a powerful and respected commentator on the subject who campaigns for tweaking the system rather than dealing with the profit-driven corruption at the root of the pharmaceutical business.


  4. A Node,

    These are fakes with no or very limited medicinal value, not generics. Actually as I was posting I was wondering how quickly someone would try to divert this onto the (for most commenters) ideologically more comfortable ground of blaming western pharmaceutical companies!

    On anti-malarials and most antibiotics, for example, cheap generics are very widely available legally, so this is not about branding or intellectual property rights – which is a real problem but a smaller one.

  5. On malaria, the biggest killer, for example, there are several effective drugs but currently the most effective in Ghana is artesunate, best in combination with lumefrantin. I have a “branded” packet here. This course will save your life if needed, it is made by Novartis of Switzerland, was bought in an upmarket pharmacy, and only cost me $8. Cheaper versions are also legally available that will do the job.

  6. If it were fake Prada handbags they were exporting to Africa then the media in the West would certainly have something to say about the matter. And no doubt our governments would take stern action to stamp out the practice.

  7. Ouch.
    Oh well, in for a penny …
    This “commenter” finds it difficult to believe that the western pharmaceutical companies (with their huge control over governments) would allow China and India to siphon off US$9 billion a year of “their” money unless it somehow suited them or the overall power structure to which they belong.

  8. If Italy can imprison 6 seismologists for failing to predict an Earthquake, then I think fake manufacturers are going to be facing universal opprobrium.

    Therefore it is imperative that these issues be checked by politically independent pharmo-chemical analysts, simply because it will be an obvious dirty tricks move for Western governments to use against the giant Eastern economies, which are taking over Africa.

    My caution is based on the principle that China and India don’t actually need to cheat.

  9. An Indian friend is supply mosquito bed nets to Africa which are very effective in controlling malaria. This is a business but the nets are supplied free to African house-holds.


  10. “On anti-malarials and most antibiotics, for example, cheap generics are very widely available legally…”

    So why don’t the African buyers get their drugs from those (safe) sources? Also, if a container holds a million doses of fake drugs, surely there is at least one laboratory that could test a few random samples before they are handed out to all and sundry?

    It may seem callous to shrug and say, “caveat emptor”. But in an unscrupulous world, where increasingly people are valued purely according to their wealth, there are bound to be many cheats and liars out to make their fortune on the cheap.

  11. George W Bush was widely criticised for his “If you’re not for us, your against us” philosophy, and yet it seems to be quite a prevalent mindset in one form or another.

    I don’t think there is a reader of this blog who will be unaware of (at least some of) the evils that have been perpetrated by the western world whether it be at government or corporate level. What strikes me is the black and white mindset of some posters that think EVERY wrongdoing must be the fault of the West. It’s certainly hubris to think that the West has the power to control every action of very powerful nations such as India or China.

    I don’t know if Western governments turn a blind eye to this or not. Europe and the USA have committed no end of atrocities against Africans, but just as daily mail readers should not demonise foreign powers because they are ‘not us’, please let’s not canonise them for the same reason.

  12. I am told that major pharma companies give free, charirble drugs to African nations and these free drugs are shipped back to Europe to be sold on the open market.

  13. Jay,

    Perfectly possible. You can buy freely given World Food Programme food clearly marked as Aid and not for resale from traders all over Africa. But in those cases at least the intention of the donors is good.

    I agree entirely with Geoff. The belief that because there are bad people in the West, there are no bad people anywhere else is I think often caused by individuals being fixated on a single factor governing their wolrd view (9/11, Bilderberg, Freemasons, Jews, Illuminati) as an overall explanation of some kind. Still not sure however how that can convince people Putin is good, for example. A further crazed leap.

  14. Craig, a lot o fools, running round with open mouths, think that a fake drug is like a fake Rolex watch, although the latter actually runs for a while even though not so well as the Swiss original. Africa is in no way exceptional. Fake drugs can be found everywhere throughout Southeast Asia (SEA). As in Africa, these drugs are mainly supplied by India and China but there are apparently quite a few other countries trying to enter this profitable market. Fake Viagra is sold in SEA on every corner, presumably to slow down the population growth.

    The main cause of this tragedy is the extreme poverty of the population in countries of Arica and SEA as well as low level of education. People have to take the risk of opting for a potentially fake drug just because they cannot afford the more expensive alternative. It is just like if you have no money then you have to sail off on a rickety boat rather than on a luxury yacht. Nothing will change if people in those countries remain poor. Furthermore, all this is happening with the connivance of the governments whose officials get a cut from the producers and sometimes also from the distributors. Controls of the pharmacies are practically nonexistent and most of these countries have no laboratories for testing the content of the medicine on the market. In my opinion, things will get much worse and fake drugs will conquer the civilized world where our “western values” drive people to extreme poverty and those with poor or no medical insurance will have to look for bargains on the Internet and other obscure sources. The recent tragic case in the Czech Republic, where thirty people have died from methanol poisoning, can serve as a warning. They died after drinking cheap vodka, rum and other punched drinks laced with methanol. The fifty-fifty mix made it more profitable for the producer. Perhaps we should warn these poor buggers to avoid cheap drinks altogether and tell them to try Hennessey XO next time they have an urge for something stronger. So, get ready for a genocide in Europe Craig.

  15. Ha ha, am I on the black list??

  16. I find it hard to believe that the Chinese Government, with its huge interest in Africa’s economic resources, would score an own-goal by supplying fake medicines. China is perfectly capable of producing fully-functional medicines and undercutting the original developers. I say nothing about its attitude to the competition-stifling patents that inhibit more scrupulous legislatures, however. So we’re talking about organised crime, no?

  17. Yes – I have nowhere said or implied the government of China is behind this. I have said that they must take responsibility for cleaning it up and tackling this organised crime in their territory.

  18. On that point Geoff what comes to mind is the fact that powerful nations such as Russia and China have tried to prevent ‘genocide’ in the Middle East by challenging the ‘preemption doctrine’ that considers striking a passive country as ‘doing the right thing.’

    Today we witness the aftermath in Bani Walid where families have been destroyed or driven out of their homes and where medical supplies are urgently needed.

    Despite this, the ‘West’ or the America empire and Britain are resolute on continually smashing Syria and preparing to demolish nuclear energy sites, some of which are in populated areas of Iran.

  19. It would seem to be in China’s own interest to do that, for sure, Craig

  20. Craig..It is often the very Governments themselves whom are behind the proliferation of this trade. For example, a huge consignment of fake drugs was shipped from Rwanda to the Democratic Republic of Congo accross the Gisenyi-Goma border. These fake drugs were due to be distributed to hospitals and clinics and sold to patients as the genuine article. The end user ? The Minister of Health himself. Endemic corruption at local senior Govt levels is as much to blame as the exporting countries. If nobody wanted to make a fortune by passing these fake drugs off to the local population as genuine, then there would be no market for them !

  21. Frazer

    Certainly that is true – there are crooks in Africa involved in this end of the market, as well as Asian crooks at the other end. Probably with governmental corruption playing a part at both ends too.

  22. Mark,

    Indeed I am very glad that Russia is attempting to put the brakes on American imperialism, but I am not sure it is based on their natural altruism as you seem to suggest so much as their own self-preservation.

  23. Its down to quality, and regards to equality, its now that we find that such low levels of equality is what makes us alike.

    If only our western leaders could set the example to the world and find common ground to base humanity instead of fighting for their terms of equality of which is eqaulity of poor quality as long as their is profit to be made.

    Yet again it come down to the money system?

  24. I am with you here Craig. Greed has not nationality, race or creed. If you are human then you are capable of evil deeds.

  25. I repeat Craig’s words on Western governments, an intelligent insight that frames greed and warns of conflict. Please bear in mind the modern crazed catalyst for these actions in occurred in 2001.

    “The first and most obvious development is the realisation that, while western democracies have more or less eliminated open violence in their internal political arrangements for control of resources, they are increasingly liable to resort to open warfare to gain control over the benefit of the resources of other nations, particularly as those resources become more scarce and valuable. Anybody who truly believes that it is coincidence that Iraq, Libya and Central Asia are hydrocarbon rich, and the major areas of Western military activity, is wilfully blind. There was nothing new about neo-imperialism and its recent manifestation as liberal interventionism is no more than a rehash of standard imperial propaganda on the spreading of civilised values.”

  26. @Jay.
    Pharma companies donate to 2 major organisations, IDA and IMRES, both based in the Netherlands. These drugs are then sold (on a break even basis) at cost to International Non Govt Organisations such as Doctors Without Borders. These INGO’s then distribute them free to the population.

  27. Of course Geoff – I have found nothing in foreign or political policy that is based on kindness. Compassion is based on a love of life not death. As I asserted in the ‘drone’ thread we have reached a stage in human progression where murder by proxy is a simple solution to the negative connotations of ‘disinformation’ or exposing the inevitable that civilians and children are murdered or soldiers (our own young men and women) are lost in battle.

    Clearly we on in an artery to wretchedness and I will not go with that flow.


    26 Oct, 2012 - 1:09 pm

    Thanks for this item. Interesting.

  29. A node or whoever you are. It is you who understands nothing about the drug business. The potential loss of what you call “western pharmaceutical companies” is fictional as the poor in Africa or SEA would have never had the money to buy the more expensive medicine. Your claim is as absurd as the legal suit brought several years ago by some software company or another against a 13 yr old who supposedly siphoned off software worth 1.4 million dollars. Well a terrible loss to the company, I prsume. Had he not stolen it, he would have presumably bought it. Perhaps Lehman Brothers would have lent him the money to start a profitable businees.

  30. @ Mark Golding.
    Mark Heathcote has just produced this.”An Iraqi child”



  31. A bit hard on Node there, i also thought a distinction between counterfeit and fake medicine very significant.

  32. Thank-you Dave – cheers I’ll put that on my web-site.

  33. ‘India and China have vastly more economic resources and greater government control than the African states whose people are the victims of this evil trade. ‘

    True, however India & China, unlike the states of ‘the West’, are immune to feelings of post colonial guilt, as their conduct in, respectively, Kashmir & Tibet, amply demonstrates. Neither country is thus likely to assume a ‘duty of care’ in their dealings with African countries whose own governments (with the possible exception of Ghana, as Craig states) are too incompetent or corrupt to protect their own peoples from this trade.

  34. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    26 Oct, 2012 - 3:12 pm

    As to the dearth of Media attention, it’s a prescription that’s written frequently.

    The attacks on Coptic Christians in Egypt and subsequent murders

    Aid Missions to Gaza

    Crimes against children other than the beautiful, blue-eyed blonde variety.

    If you’re brown, you’re down.

  35. http://www.dailypaul.com/260403/daily-mail-obama-hit-12-billion-romney-095-billion-in-campaign-funding

    Just Imagine boys and girls in the real world , what could be done with rhis amount od money.

    How many trees could be planted, how many jobs could be created, what seeds could be planted and species saved.

    We are not in the real world this is a make believe world where we are being chosen by the darkside for our deals with satan himself.

    How can it be?

  36. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    26 Oct, 2012 - 3:30 pm

    “what could be done with rhis amount od money.”

    If we had publicly funded elections, this baloney would be cut a little thinner.

    Currently, there’s a cap of $20 m per candidate.

  37. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    26 Oct, 2012 - 3:36 pm

    2008 Campaign funds

    Spent to Date† Cash on Hand† Vote Results

    Barack Obama (D) $760,389,695 $15,466,043 69,456,897 (52.9%)
    John McCain (R) $373,920,686 $26,377,838 59,934,814 (45.7%)
    Ralph Nader (I) $4,387,250 $143,425 738,475 (0.6%)
    Bob Barr (LIB) $1,405,821 $77 523,686 (0.4%)
    Chuck Baldwin (CST) $244,113 $17,899 199,314 (0.2%)
    Cynthia McKinney (GRE) $240,460 $0 161,603 (0.1%)

  38. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    26 Oct, 2012 - 3:37 pm

    Sorry that didn’t post properly, but you can figure it out.

  39. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    26 Oct, 2012 - 3:52 pm

    I think they’re spending less in Greece.

    “”Filthy, dangerous, hysterical, racist, divided—this city is genuinely brutal and dull. There is an end of days atmosphere today in Greece.You can see it in people’s faces and in the space that surrounds them. A very deep existential sadness, much deeper than the obvious economic indignation. It is very difficult for a Greek to be optimistic,” Dimitris told us. “I hope things take a turn for the better in my country because now it sucks.”


  40. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    26 Oct, 2012 - 4:25 pm

  41. It’s bad enough having fake drugs, but in Greece it looks like people have to make do without any drugs at all:


    The above includes a rather terrible story about untreated breast cancer, btw, for those raving lunatics contributing here who think cancer treatment is all some sort of hoax designed to kill the patient (with the complicity of the doctor).

  42. “If there is one country that has benefited from the huge amounts Greece spends on defence it is Germany,” said Dimitris Papadimoulis, an MP with the Coalition of the Radical Left party.

    “Just under 15% of Germany’s total arms exports are made to Greece, its biggest market in Europe,” Papadimoulis said the MP, reeling off figures from a scruffy armchair in his party’s parliamentary office. “Greece has paid over €2bn (£1.6bn) for submarines that proved to be faulty and which it doesn’t even need.

    “It owes another €1bn as part of the deal. That’s three times the amount Athens was asked to make in additional pension cuts to secure its latest EU aid package.”

    According to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (Sipri), France is not far behind. Some 10% of its total arms sales go to Greece, which is a member of Nato. From 2002 to 2006, Greece was the world’s fourth biggest importer of conventional weapons. It is now the 10th.

    “As a proportion of GDP, Greece spends twice as much as any other EU member on defence,” said Papadimoulis, who is also a former MEP.

    “Well after the economic crisis had begun, Germany and France were trying to seal lucrative weapons deals even as they were pushing us to make deep cuts in areas like health.”

    19 April 2012
    German ‘hypocrisy’ over Greek military spending has critics up in arms

    I had read that Greece came under huge pressure to buy arms they couldn’t afford, and that Goldman Sachs was somethow in involved in that pressure, but I can’t find a link.

    Greece has been thorougly f*cked over and it’s not because of its citizens “not paying taxes”.

  43. Off-topic sos but well worth a look – thank-you.


  44. In retail, we have good, better, best. In Africa, they have fake, generic, branded. All produced and packaged to a price point that matches the consumer’s preparedness or ability to purchase an upgraded product. Now why would it be any other way? Some might think that this fake pharmaceutical business hurts the real pharm business. I don’t think so. You can’t make a buck selling to someone who won’t pay the high prices you demand. And if you discount to Africa, all those meds will end up on the internet, sold to Westerners. Do Indian and Chinese politicians care? They do. Their friends run these operations and give them kickbacks. They really do care.

  45. “Illegal medications seized in 16 African countries”
    (AFP) – 1 day ago


    “PARIS — An unprecedented crackdown in 16 African countries netted 82 million doses of illegal or counterfeit drugs, including antibiotics, contraceptives and malaria treatments, the World Customs Organisation (WCO) said on Thursday.

    “Africa is now being used as a rubbish tip, and this directly affects consumer health and safety,” Zimmermann said.

    “We are dealing with structured organisations that specialise in international fraud, which exploit globalisation in operations that span continents and countries, using different forms of transport.”

    Two further operations would be staged in Africa over the next six months in order to maintain momentum on the drug fakers, said the WCO’s secretary general, Kunio Mikuriya.”

    “Fake Medicine Common in Many Sub-Saharan African Countries”

    ‘A median of 20% across 17 countries surveyed say they or household members
    have been victims’


    The story is out there, if you Google it, but as Craig says, it’s not exactly getting ‘top billing’ in the MSM.

  46. Wahh, I’m gone into moderation. And I thought I had disguised the second link …

  47. Dreoilin – do this – anysite.com/blah/blah/blah

    just leave out the http://www – not needed – but more than one invites the black hole of moderation.

  48. oops – my bad – I should have said on subsequent links else it won’t show as a link.

  49. Mark, I had left out the initial “h” on the second link, thinking that would work. But I’ll leave out the whole http://www in future, or use curly brackets, tks!

  50. “..wars in Syria, Afghanistan and the rest of the Middle East combined, and several hundred times more deaths than terrorism.”

    Is this Guardian article kosher folks – or is this coalition government shenanigans?


  51. This Dreoilin? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17108367

    I seem to think that one of the pocket pols put in by the IMF/EU bank etc was ex Goldman Sachs.

  52. Thanks Mary, but no, it wasn’t about Goldman Sachs helping to hide their debt, it was a story about pressure put on them regarding arms sales. I wish I could find it.

  53. Other links here about Goldman (well named) Sachs and the Greek debt.



    I know Craig was writing about fake drugs. A distant relative by marriage is a paediatrician and has just been working in Ugandan hospitals and clinics. She was struck by the large quantities of drugs and medicine + equipment unused in store rooms, some marked USAid. The staff had no knowledge nor had been given instructions on the use of the drugs and other items. Thus they were gathering dust and going out of date.

    Mark I expect you knew that St Tony of Baghdad was into the mosquito net business via his Faith Foundation and his Africs initiative. Tony is such a good human.

  54. Mark
    I wouldn’t be surprised if the entire article was written to frame this paragraph:

    “It is quite likely that if the Israelis decided to attack Iran, or the Americans felt they had to do it for the Israelis or in support of them, the UK would not be told beforehand,” said the source. “In some respects, the UK government would prefer it that way.”

  55. :)

    My dear friend Silvio

    I was very sorry to hear that our enemies have succeeded in their persecution of you and that you have been fined, prevented from ever standing for President again and worst of all, have been sentenced to four years’ imprisonment. I am truly appalled but as the news channels are saying here, it is most unlikely that you will ever go to jail. I hope that their information is correct and that your appeal will see that you are free of these wicked charges.

    Meanwhile, Cherie and I send our fondest wishes and let me know if there is any way I can help. We looked forward to seeing you again at your beautiful Villa Certosa but see that it is now on the market. If you can ever get over here, you are most welcome at our place in the country.

    If your legal people need any assistance, I will put a word in Tessa Jowell’s ear and I am sure that David Mills will be only too willing to help using the experience when he went through the same mill.

    Yours aye



  56. My comment that went into moderation was on topic (Africa) but this one relates to what Mark posted:

    Israeli Lobbyist Calls For False Flag To Start Iran War


  57. Dave, thanks for reminding me of Iraq. Although Craig does not want to call the sale of fake drug a genocide, it has nevertheless some genocidal traits, even if genocide is not necessarily the perpetrators’ intention. We have all become rather tolerant and well-adapted to genocide, which has been with us throughout the history. Whole nations have vanished without a trace like the Carribs or the Tasmanians, most of the indigenous American nations and god knows who else. Individuals like Madeleine Albright, the former secretary of state, when asked about the death of about half a million Iraqi children as a consequence of sanctions, answered that it was worth it. Such defenders of freedom find genocide fine and useful method to deal with real or imaginary enemies. Any producer of fake drugs, if accosted, would most likely be less brutal and tell us about selling an illusion to those who would die anyway, providing jobs to hundreds of landless peasants and the fabulous trickle down of the proceeds to those most in need.
    What can be done about fake drugs? I suspect nothing as any potential war on fake drugs will be as successful and as deadly as the war on drugs declared by Nixon. Perhaps something could be done about the genocide of children Gaza perpetrated by the zionist entity, that calls itself the “Jewish State”.

  58. Amazing. This author talks about “crime being committed against Africa from outside” not against human beings. Also, there is no country mentioned, as if Africans are all one type of person, black, and they don’t have sovereign countries, national identities, rights and are less distinct as individuals than Europeans are. Mr Murray would never talk about the British as “Europeans” or Canadians as “North Americans”; he would always refer to the exact country where something bad is happening, as he does in the Assange case.

    Why do you do this Craig? Are Nigerians, Togolaise, Senegalese, Angolans and all the other culturally distinct citizens of these sovereign countries not worthy of your carful attention in your writing? Or are they just a gaggle of ignorant blacks, who dont have rights or citizenship, and exist only as mute receptacles for your pity?

    Your attitude to these people and their distinct cultures and countries is fueled by exactly the same motivation that causes companies to import deadly fake medicine to these countries; dark skinned people dont count, not morally, numerically politically or any other way. That is the only way we can explain this inexplicable grouping of an entire continent of disparate people into a single word, “Africa”.

  59. Craig once mentioned the dumping of toxic waste in African seas by different international companies. Responsibility for this current topic of useless medicines could originate from anywhere in the globe. They are not accountable to any controlling body and the financial beneficiaries could just as likely be sitting at a laptop in leafy Surrey as India or China.

    The greatest crime against Africa ever committed has been the ongoing eradication of Islam. Billions are spent every year peddling the fake and worthless Christian creeds of the UK and US / IS. In this case the location source of the criminals is clear. I suspect that the business channels for fake drugs are the same, even if the bottles are labelled India or China.

  60. In my [moderated] comment I posted two links:

    “Illegal medications seized in 16 African countries”
    (AFP) – 1 day ago


    which mentions that:

    “Two further operations would be staged in Africa over the next six months in order to maintain momentum on the drug fakers, said the WCO’s secretary general, Kunio Mikuriya.”


    “Fake Medicine Common in Many Sub-Saharan African Countries”


    which gives the results of polling to find out how many people have been affected by them.

    and I said that

    The story is out there, if you Google it, but as Craig says, it’s not exactly getting ‘top billing’ in the MSM.

    @Ngozi Kwaku

    You say
    “Your attitude to these people and their distinct cultures and countries is fueled by exactly the same motivation that causes companies to import deadly fake medicine to these countries; dark skinned people dont count, not morally, numerically politically or any other way.”

    I think you’re being unfair to Craig. If he thought that “dark skinned people dont count”, why would he post about the subject at all? Are you aware of his involvement in Ghana?

  61. Norman Holland

    26 Oct, 2012 - 7:37 pm

    Let’s take a look at the trustees of Jimmy Savile’s charities, namely the Jimmy Savile Charitable Trust and the Jimmy Savile Stoke Mandeville Charitable Trust.

    Both charities now have the same group of three trustees, namely:

    Luke Lucas

    According to one of the charities’ financial statements, he’s a “self-made millionaire in the security industry with several confidential contracts with the Home Office”. He also happens to be a convicted criminal. When he was managing director and 94% owner of Sabrewatch, a security company which had big security contracts with Marks and Spencer, he and his company were both fined for using unlicensed guards, also known as thugs. He claimed he had to do so because of ‘terrorist’ threats. The judge, however, said he was guilty of persistently and knowingly breaking the law (see here)

    Lady Gabrielle Greenbury (replaced James Collier at the JSSMCT in March 2012)

    She’s married to Richard Greenbury, who was CEO at Marks and Spencer from 1988 to 1999, chairman of the pharmaceutical company Astrazeneca (giving his wife an obvious conflict of interest in her role as trustee of the said charities), and a director of Lloyds TSB. Gabrielle Greenbury was also a director of the dodgy security company Sabrewatch.

    And she’s a director of Princedale, the marketing group, which is said to be a vehicle for Harry Solomon, co-founder of the Portland Trust, an obvious Zionist front described by Wikipedia as having “consistently highlighted the important role of economics in resolving the Middle East conflict”)

    Roger Bodley

    He’s a world-leading radiologist.

  62. I fail to understand why are you all excited about Africa. Fake drugs are available everywhere. You can order them in the UK via internet if you want.

  63. Ngozi Kwaku above is absolutely right – how dare the author just generalise in discussing the entire region as “Africa”. CM should have not only referred to every single country and its regions, but also mentioned every single individual there. By name.

  64. :)

  65. The Cons’ advisers. Poppy Mitchell-Rose was on that train with Osborne when he was done for having a standard class ticket when travelling first class. I see her long term boyfriend is Ben Wright, a BBC reporter, and son of Tony Wright the Labour MP.


    Gleaned from HIGNFY who unbelievably have Conrad Black on. The BBC learn no lessons in spite of their current local difficulties.

    Also heard from Ms Chloe Smith today that Admiralty Arch is going to be converted into a luxury hotel. It would have to be ‘luxury’ wouldn’t it. Never affordable flats or the like.

    Smith is now in the Cabinet Office as a runner for Maude, Letwin, Clarke. Shapps et al. {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_Office}

  66. 800,000 dead in Rwanda. Who cares? Africans?

  67. Says it all Dreoilin Thankyou – we live in a false world, fallacious, cooked up and it is wrong very wrong.

  68. I was a bit carried away with some your writings on the middle East etc where injustice prevails… But i am very much surprised at the way you bundled together a whole unigue group of people into one – Africans. What does ‘Sub-Sahara’ mean? do we have Sub-Baltic Sea Europeans?

    In as much as you may presume to be expert on African issues or be ‘sympathetic’ to its course dont be carried away to make statements that makes you as guilty as those you write against.

    PS: you are never going to be kidnapped or bombed by ‘al-qaeda’ in Accra. I quess its one of those ‘calling a dog a bad name to hang it’ syndrome of the West. Read somewhere France is considering deploying troops to Mali against ‘militants’…its just a false flag to occupation.

    Ecowas is capable of solving that problem but b’cos of their interest France and the rest of the so called developed world are not supporting. There’s a Ghana proverb that says that ‘though it tarries, it shall come to pass/it will end’. So let them occupy, kill, maim, rape etc. Their end will come. They will never be Permanent UNSC forever..

    And CM welcome to Accra…will look for you one these days, guess you are here for the elections.

  69. Same ol’ same ol’ – from King Leopold all the way to the present day..


  70. @ Amre,

    ” I was a bit carried away with some your writings on the middle East etc where injustice prevails… But i am very much surprised at the way you bundled together a whole unigue group of people into one – Africans. What does ‘Sub-Sahara’ mean? do we have Sub-Baltic Sea Europeans?”

    You are correct, and one does appreciate the diversity of Africa – North – South – East and West – culturally, religiously, and in many other spheres of human existence – you are correct.

    The point is that Europe vis-a- vis Africa there is prejudice.

  71. OT I know but it just occurred to me… Is it strange that nobody seems to be mentioning that Savile was a member of Mensa? A google search shows that his name was even on the list of prominent members displayed on the Mensa website. Been edited out now.

    Did that give him any inappropriate access?

  72. Amre asks, “what does ‘Sub Sahara’ mean”. I have often asked myself the same question as it always appears in documents and articles written by people from the West.
    Does it mean the equatorial/tropical belt or does it continue all the way to the Cape?

    When I first began travelling to that area I used to look at the Sahara a lot from the aircraft windows looking for signs of life below. What struck me was how quickly it changed from desert to civilisation. You would see a road and then a few trees. Suddenly there were houses and the earth was shaped in fields and plantations. Soon we would be flying over airports and densly populated cities. If man could eke out a living, man was there.
    Maybe this is where the term came from, I like to think that it was, although I agree that it must sound like an ignorant way to name the region to someone from the area.

    Regarding the drugs, there are Chinese pharmacies all over the place and I know that people go to them for malaria cures and for other treatments. I go back there next week so I will try and warn my friends there of the problem. I would imagine some of them are aware of it already.

  73. Wikipedia has a page on ‘Sub-Saharan Africa’

  74. A ringfencing strategy is in play regarding Jimmy Savile: he ‘groomed the entire nation'; ‘no entertainer ever had such access to the Establishment'; ‘he was the most prolific paedophile in the country’. Rubbish, rubbish, and rubbish.

    Well he’s dead now, and won’t abuse anyone else. The problem isn’t him, now; it’s other people, other paedophiles, maybe even worse than him, or much worse, and in positions of more power, or much more power.

  75. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sub-Saharan_Africa_definition_UN.png

    Dark and lighter green: Definition of “Sub-Saharan Africa” as used in the statistics of the UN institutions.

    Lighter green: However, the Sudan is classified as North Africa by the United Nations.[1]

  76. “Says it all Dreoilin Thankyou – we live in a false world, fallacious, cooked up and it is wrong very wrong.”

    Mark, you’re talking about the video,
    ‘Israeli Lobbyist Calls For False Flag To Start Iran War’?

    Shocking stuff. I suspect he thought he was speaking in private. But he’s amazingly blunt and he probably doesn’t care whether he was recorded or not.
    Makes me sick.

    I’m off to bed.

  77. Interesting little movie – a play centered around a discussion from Chomsky:


  78. “Land grabbing and food sovereignty in West and Central Africa”


  79. All of Africa’s problems are the fault of Whites. If they are buying counterfeit drugs from India or China, somehow Whites are to blame.

    And being guilty, we should do something about it. For less than the price of a cup of coffee, you can feed an African family for a week. You’re a heartless bastard for not feeding these little African children.

  80. Is this a one off or has it been going on for some time? Who is responsible for these purchases? Forgive me for thinking that whoever is responsible could well have a finger in the pie. And if it has been going on for some time then why continue to buy from sources that are ripping you off?
    It would require a bit more sophistication to ensure the fake drugs were distributed in such a way as to try and make the ineffectiveness of the fake drugs – i.e. it would be necessary to ensure the fake drugs were not exclusively delivered to one region as the non-effectiveness would be likely to show up and trigger suspicions. So it’s possible elements of the African distribution may be involved in the scam.

    The sheer scale of what you report would surely mean that the crime would be easy to investigate and the source of these compounds easily uncovered.

    Where does the the corruption begin? Everything could be legit but fault could lie with the pharma companies themselves (who presumable must be aware of these massive orders. It’s unlikely, say, the AU calls GSK out of the blue and places an order for half a billion dollars, rather it would eb through GSK’s salespersons lobbying. The phamra companies could be the ones substitution the goods – providing the packaging etc (many pharmaceuticals use holograms on their products to try reassure us their products are genuine {I know, hardly foolproof but would mean a fairly sophisticated criminal would be involved}. The phrma companies will then of course have an internal set of paperwork that accounts for the half billion dollars worth of inventory that it needs to ship out. It would be an illegitimate defense for a pharma company to wash its hands of the matter and blaming its regional factories in cheap labour countries.

    It should all be in the paper trail, which will help uncover the scam.

    Well once more, the paper trail particularly those making the purchase order are the ones I would look to first before the “Asians” and the “Chinese”

  81. @ Karel. 26 Oct, 2012 – 12:13 pm
    “People have to take the risk of opting for a potentially fake drug just because they cannot afford the more expensive alternative.” – I have a feeling you are very wrong in that assumption. Sadly, I have no proof (just a general perception based on medical stories over the years) but do you have proof of your claims?

    Actually you contradict yourself something rotten, advising the cheap alcoholic drinkers to buy (the more expensive) Hennessey instead.

    Black list? no, not in my books, but black mark for for contradicting yourself.
    (I have a feeling black list, black mark is going to be politically incorrect)

  82. Unfortunately, you’re right. I don’t care if a bunch of Africans die. Africans have shown themselves to be incapable of forming worthwhile societies. Africa has some of the best land for mining in the world, and yet they can’t manage to figure out what to do at all without Americans, Europeans, and Chinese showing them.

    In the same way that I don’t feel bad for all the cows and chickens that die on farms, I don’t feel bad for all the Africans that are too worthless to manage to get $6 to save themselves.

    As terrible as it sounds, it’s true.

  83. And before anyone criticizes me for comparing Africans to animals… You think the exact same thing yourself. You just look at them more like your family dog that you love rather than the nuisance fly in your home.

  84. When you have matured passed the age playing with tractors and guns, you may recognise the idea to formulate other potential solutioms to an age old problem of empathy?….

    Terrible man.

  85. @William

    While I don’t like your attitude to ‘Africans’, free speech requires me to support your right to hold and express that opinion.

    My own beliefs are something like this.
    In large parts of Asia and Europe, societies developed slowly from hunter gathering communities, through subsistence farming and on to the sophisticates but (sometimes) technologically limited societies of India, SE Asia, Europe. These then gradually developed science and technology up to the present day, slowly changing the societies we live in as they went.

    Possibly because most of Africa is not smitten with cold winters, the move beyond subsistence farming was more limited in Africa. That said, don’t forget ancient Zimbabwe was a sophisticated society.

    So, when rapacious Arabs & Europeans arrived on their territory, the Africans were at a disadvantage. Suddenly, their lands, were subject to confiscation for failure to pay taxes using this new fangled money the incomers had foisted upon them. They had to sink or swim in a very different foreign society, which had taken centuries to evolve in Europ & the Middle East; but was now being forced on them overnight.

    None of that makes African people inferior to white people. But it DOES mean they were pushed to the bottom of a socio-economic system imposed on them from outside.

    Imagine an alternative world where Africans had developed aircraft and nuclear weapons in the 18th century…

  86. Dont tell me William,you’re one of those types that buys broken down WW2 Panzer tanks on specialist online auction sites,to park in your little garden in order to demarcate your territorial right to protect your next door neighbours ignorance?

    Or were you outbid by yourself?

    Oh,dont worry,we know its only because you care sooo much,right?

    Human compassion is a cradled strangers wounded head in a wintery dusk.

    Dont you agree William?

    Of course you do!

  87. There is a BBC type on Newswatch at the moment who in a discussion on the effect of the Savile scandal on the BBC, is reciting that myth that there is immense public trust in the BBC and that that trust must be restored in full! Ha!

    He is Peter Horrocks. Head of the World Service and chair of the World Service trustees. Before that he was head of News from 2007. We remember, but he has probably forgotten, how much pro-Israel bias there has been in news reporting onscreen and on the website, especially during Cast Lead.


    This is about BBC News in its present incarnation under Helen Boaden and its failings in its reporting of the passing of the Health and Social Care Act this year.

  88. The repellent Max Clifford puts in his contribution. Is he counsel for the defence now? I wonder what his fees are?

    ‘He added: “We are talking about a lot of people that were huge names in the 60s and 70s and a lot of them barely remember what they did last week, genuinely.

    “For them to try and recount what happened in a dressing room in 1965 or 1968 or 1972, genuinely they are frightened to death.”‘


  89. @Mary

    For once, the assurance that, “If you are innocent, you have nothing to hide.” seems appropriate.
    This leads me to think lots of people have a guilty secret. As someone commented earlier, all the police need now is Clifford’s list of new clients. ;-)

  90. Bradley Manning’s torment continues. Now it’s Hurricane Sandy delaying his ‘trial’.


  91. Unfortunately, the attitude shown by William is held by many who work in African countries. I have found that those that hold these attitudes are people who have taken on posts that they are incapable of adequately filling and fall back on it as an excuse for their own shortcomings. There are a lot of others who agree with them, although not as openly as William, and they feel secure in their group therapy session at the bar as they blame their staff for all their problems.

    When I was being interviewed for my job, I asked about the standard of the people I would be responsible for and was given feedback that the interviewer had garnered, obviously from the Williams of this world, along the lines of, “You show them a job in the morning and then you show them it again after lunch”.
    What I found was a wonderful group of individuals, some of whom were far more intellegent than me, some of whom had had no education, but all wanting to learn new skills and knowledge. I have led UK crews on some major projects in my time, which all contained a mix of different individuals, but I would not say that they were any better than my African crew.

    Today, things have moved on and we are all doing other things but I take great pleasure in the fact that some of them now have higher positions that I have. It makes no difference where people come from, they just need some help to get started.

  92. Peppermint
    You have to join all the dots.
    The easiest way to steal the resources under the land is to kill the people living on the land. e.g. Sudan and Somalia.
    Craig is writing tongue in cheek, but in my opinion this distribution of ineffective medicines is very much intentional and very much genocide.
    China may have a mission to exploit Africa economically, but not in the cynical way that the West UKFRANCEUSIS has traditionally done.
    Using China and India false drug manufacturers to mask their own genocide smacks of using European and Muslim slave traders to mask colonisation by the big players. The presence of ‘white’ missionaries not just in Africa, but every Muslim country on earth including Iraq, is one dot. Death by fake drugs another dot. Israel’s bid to take over government security operations in central Africa another dot. The presence of Al CIAda in Libya etc etc etc, another dot.

    William does not respect Africa because they are unable to join the dots and take control of their own destinies. Is that not because of the subversive nature of Western colonialism?
    When you look in the acid bath and find gall-stones, join up the gallstones. Behind those dots of gallstones is the humanity that has been eradicated by subterfuge, along with their beliefs, traditions, lands, rights and cultures.

  93. For many countries, producing counterfeit drugs is a means of accumalating foreign currency.
    When a country is under sanctions or has limited exports fake drudgs provide a form of wealth transfer.

    Wether run by state institutions or on the criminal black market the need for money is a cause of the problem.

    We know the privately owned federal reserve bank has the ability to print and the dollar is the world currency;
    Solving the control of money would help negate these issues of desperariin in creatin wealth.

  94. lwtc247, cannot you have a more human name or are you a robot? As always, you are off the mark and and a constant nuisance to everyone here with your stupid pretensions of incredulity. If we take your statements at a face value, it is obvious that you have no idea of what it is like to be poor in a poor country. If you do not understand that someone earning 100 USD, sometimes less, a month cannot afford an antiviral treatment costing in excess of 10000 USD per annum, then find a home teacher catering for backward boys and learn some elementary mathematics.

  95. Braving the ice-sheets and probably fleeing from predators some of us left Africa an aeon ago.

    Then we returned with our flying death-machines guarding our probes for natural resources – Now we can easily kill the predators… our spears are remotely controlled!


  96. ‘Amre asks, “what does ‘Sub Sahara’ mean”. I have often asked myself the same question as it always appears in documents and articles written by people from the West.
    Does it mean the equatorial/tropical belt or does it continue all the way to the Cape?’

    The answer is right in front of your nose. Since the banishment of the N word from polite conversation you can no longer (as Geography textbooks did half a century ago) refer to ‘N*gr* Africa’.’Sub-Saharan’ is the acceptable alternative.

  97. Lord Patten, chair of the BBC Trust, is a director of the European Advisory Board of Bridgepoint along with Alan Milburn, Sir Stuart Rose, Henry W K Chow,
    Sir James Crosby, Dr Hubertus Erlen and Christian Streiff, an interesting collection of names!

    Their portfolio includes LGC Forensics. ‘LGC is Europe’s largest private provider of forensic services and regulated scientific reference materials. It has 28 laboratories and centres across Europe, as well as sites in India, China and the US.’

    LGC Forensics dealt with the deaths of Dr Kelly, Gareth Williams and the remains found at Haut de la Garenne – some coincidence?




    a) LGC entered into a consultancy agreement with The Chertoff Group, of which the chairman of the company Mr Love is a principal.
    The accounts and annual report for LGC 2011.

    Chertoff – evil track record with PNAC, Dept of Homeland Security etc. The control of ‘forensic’ output is very important for those elements and states that kill, willy nilly, like the UK.

    See Mr Love, ex Qineti, DERA etc. His biography –

  98. Jay
    Just being picky, but ‘counterfeit’ would be fine if they worked.

  99. What a refreshing amusement on Saturday to read contributions from comentators like William. According to his logic, we may steal a goat from a neighbour if we feel that he is not milking it properly. This is not a novel idea, The “civilized people” of this world have been practicing it for centuries. But I suspect that our Willie underestimates Africans who are less degenerate than Europeans (I would prefer not to mention Americans) and it will be Africans who will most likely outlive us, the civilized bunch, in a long run. From an evolutionary point of view, simple societies, used to subsistance living, have a greater chance to survive any collapse of the industrialized word. It is more likely that in the coming days of an energy supply collapse our Willie, while trapped in a lift, will suffocate in his own farts than an African dying from starvation will provide a light lunch for a crocodile.

  100. @karel. I misread one word in your post. Sincere apologies.

  101. 100 year-old-egg

    27 Oct, 2012 - 1:35 pm

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  102. It is true that fake drugs are widely produced in China. They are also available in its domestic market.

  103. “The control of ‘forensic’ output is very important for those elements and states that kill, willy nilly, like the UK.”

    No coincidence Mary – Chertoff group advisor Joel Brenner was/is tasked with weakening public encryption and I believe Gareth Williams was seconded to work on the maths.

    Brenner and an Israeli group developed the industrial stuxnet worm. However the group were admonished for sloppy work. Its creators lacked the quality control necessary when designing a specifically aimed attack to prevent random scatter around the globe.

    Brenner has been privileged with a number of Microsoft Windows zero day exploits or back-doors that penetrate computer operating systems to reveal browser history and email clients.

    DNA sequencing software is another favorite of the group. A system to remotely tag a DNA profile is of interest.

  104. Sub Sahara Africans are not cross-bred Neanderthals. Unlike “us” who most definitely are.

  105. Anon, Thank god for the Neatherthals. We would have been probably much worse savages without them.

  106. “And before anyone criticizes me for comparing Africans to animals… You think the exact same thing yourself.”

    No, William, I don’t.
    And I’ve just written a long comment telling you why, and what I think of you, but I’ve deleted it.

  107. O/T

    Good old Vincent!

    “TV3 broadcaster Vincent Browne insists he is not anti-Semitic after branding Israel a “cancer” in foreign affairs.

    “But Israel’s deputy ambassador to Ireland said she never believed the day would come when an Irish TV presenter would make “racist, anti-Semitic remarks” …


  108. Refreshing Karel – I do like your metaphors. :)

  109. Dreoilin,

    The religious and political connotation of ‘antisemitic’ has now been wrung out like a sponge since the 19c in Germany where it originated.

    Semitic refers to a set of languages, not people or ethnic groups.

    The most widely spoken of these today are Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic and Tigrinya, both spoken in Ethiopia and Aramaic, a version of which was spoken in ancient Israel and from which both Hebrew and Arabic scripts are derived.

    The semantics have been mixed up and like a can of worms now obfuscates the dire and chronic situation in the Middle East, notable Palestine. Being anti-Israel or anti-Zionist is not antisemitic.

    As you say “Good old Vincent!”

  110. The odious Max Clifford apprears on cue,profiting from the misery of victims.

    Our Max reckons that in the halcyon hedonism of the 60s and 70s nobody even knew the word paedophile.

    So that makes everything all right then Max,yes?

    Vulgar greedy piece of slime.

  111. She said we (activists for Palestinian human rights) have problems with our sexual identity. What a laugh.


    She is the wife of the Israeli ambassador to Ireland. That is called keeping it in the family.


  112. What can be done about fake drugs?

    Make sure there are plenty of real ones that work. If the factories that are making the real ones are at 110%, Build another one. If something has got to give, think of something that less improtant.

    Greed and money.

    Where`s “not for profit.”

    Sorry Guano.

  113. “Some of you may be aware that police invaded the home of a campaigner for Disabled People Against Cuts, living in Cardiff, just before midnight yesterday (October 26).

    Apparently she had been accused of “Criminal acts against the Department for Work and Pensions” – being that she has been highlighting the deaths of sick and disabled people following reassessment by Atos and the DWP for Employment and Support Allowance.

    No charges were brought against the lady concerned and it is generally considered that this was an act of intimidation.

    Since then, I have been informed of three other incidents”


  114. “She said we (activists for Palestinian human rights) have problems with our sexual identity.”

    Priceless, Mary. :)

  115. Africa has been selling those tainted meds to China for decades. They have cycling back in and out of cheap pharmacies in America for decades too.

  116. “For the sake of clarity let’s call the bank RBHS. No such bank exists, I’m sure you’ll agree.”


  117. ‘Sub Sahara Africans are not cross-bred Neanderthals. Unlike “us” who most definitely are.’

    ‘We’ are not the only modern humans who have that distinction. Several Australasian peoples would appear to be ‘cross-bred’ with the newly discovered Denisovans-


  118. Marc, thanks for the undeserved compliment. It is unbelievable what some people write nowdays. I hope that they get at least paid for their impudence.

  119. I think William expresses a widely held opinion, not that many would confess to it. If actions (or lack of them) are any indicator then his attitude is the majority view. It just looks awful when you write it down in so few words.

  120. Funny how the BBC isn’t telling us what’s going on in Bani Walid. Russia Today is talking about poison gas and mass civilian casualties. They must be “bad” civilians in Libya, as opposed to the “good” ones in Syria we are trying to liberate by arming our crew of jobbing jihadis. What a handy bunch of guys they are: bogeymen yesterday, stormtroopers today. Just spray on the RegimeAway, and watch those troublesome despots vanish.
    Not to be taken internally (mostly). Prolonged use can lead to loss of liberty.

  121. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    27 Oct, 2012 - 8:26 pm

    Don’t usually see too much about music here, but have to share our joy at the Bob Dylan/Mark Knopfler concert at Hollywood Bowl, last night.

    Dylan was, of course, awesome, but knopfler stole the show with his Celtic/Rock fusion. It was something I didn’t think would work, but it did, for sure.

  122. Personally I think William will die as well and when it happens, it will be totally inconsequential and his kin will once a year water the plastic flowers on his grave.

    His equivalent in Africa, although not having Williams privileged and spoiled upbringing, will be revered well past his death, the story’s he told and the life he lived, will leave joy and remembrance for his grandchildren.

    poor William, with a hate like that in your belly you best punch your own lights out.

  123. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    27 Oct, 2012 - 9:01 pm

  124. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    27 Oct, 2012 - 9:50 pm

  125. ‘British banker killed in hurricane’. Every cloud, eh? :-)

  126. Speaking of the killing of Africans…

    6 million dead. A “Holocaust” by post-World War 11 standards – having due regard for the number oft stated for dead Jews from that period.
    Britain’s role – engagement with and condoning the slaughter – does exist.

    “A Black Agenda Radio commentary by Glen Ford
    Another United Nations report has been leaked, documenting Uganda and Rwanda’s de facto annexation of the eastern Congo and complicity in a genocide that has claimed six million lives. “The blood of millions flows into the ground, while billions of dollars in minerals are extracted from the earth and delivered to their corporate customers – with Rwandan and Ugandan middlemen pocketing their cut.”

    See: http://blackagendareport.com/

  127. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    27 Oct, 2012 - 10:42 pm

    Actually, many more than 6 m died in the holocaust. It wasn’t just Jews. Political prisoners, Bahai, Jehovahs Witnesses etc among a few.


  128. My point Ben Franklin was not one of saying that many more persons died in World War 11.

    Rather, I was drawing a contrast between the noticed and remembered – versus the forgotten in Africa.

  129. Holocausts show humanities limitations, when intellect is usurped by emotional hate, the reality of human intellect, not such evolved race when compared to its nearest compatriots.

    Evolution does not come form destruction of life systems or devastating wars, it comes from cohesion, respect for all others, regardless of abilities, logistics, or leftover colonial preference, love for what keeps us alive, a sustainable cohesive approach, for all we have is

    EACH OTHER….the universe is expanding!

  130. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    27 Oct, 2012 - 10:56 pm

    I know Courtenay. It’s just that everyone uses the 6m number. I just wanted to make that point.

  131. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    27 Oct, 2012 - 10:58 pm

    Just like the War on Drugs, the war on terrorism will be permanent.


    “A piece in the Times describes a backlash over the monetary expense and compromises to privacy and civil liberties, a backlash that seems strong enough to force changes in counterterrorist programs. The different directions implied by this reporting reflect how the nation has failed to assimilate some basic principles about terrorism and measures to counter it.

    One of those principles is that terrorism is not something with a beginning and an end. It is instead a tactic that has persisted throughout history. And yet the notion of a beginning and an end persists in thinking in this country about terrorism.

    “The counterterrorism machine has gotten cranked up to run in ways that would not be acceptable to most Americans if it were to run forever, and yet there is no evident point at which, once turned on, it should be turned off. It was inevitable that a backlash would set in.

    Related to this point is the prevalent, and equally mistaken, notion that fighting terrorism involves wiping out or incapacitating some identifiable set of people: “the terrorists.” That is the idea behind the hit lists and target matrices.

    The Post‘s series depicts a U.S. counterterrorist effort that has become increasingly and narrowly focused on eliminating the people in the matrices rather than on what leads people to become terrorists and to get into the matrices in the first place.”

  132. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    27 Oct, 2012 - 11:06 pm

    “Holocausts show humanities limitations”

    I hope we’ve learned not to shut-down our defenses, should Camps reappear. I don’t intend to be silently slaughtered with wide cow-eyes as they have their way with me.

    “Do not go gently, into that Good Night”

  133. @ Ben Franklin,
    “The Post‘s series depicts a U.S. counterterrorist effort that has become increasingly and narrowly focused on eliminating the people in the matrices rather than on what leads people to become terrorists and to get into the matrices in the first place.”
    If one did focus on root causes then the game would not be played for the intended purpose of justifying the existence of the military-industrial complex. The arms manufacturers need to have markets, and the populace needs to be convinced of an external enemy, to justify the on-going production of the armaments:-
    “Were the Soviet Union to sink tomorrow under the waters of the ocean, the American military-industrial establishment would have to go on, substantially unchanged, until some other adversary could be invented. Anything else would be an unacceptable shock to the American economy.”
    ― George F. Kennan
    Kennan was the architect of the “Cold War”. So – from the horse’s mouth you can discern what’s going on in the world.

  134. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    27 Oct, 2012 - 11:46 pm

    ” The arms manufacturers need to have markets”

    That’s the linchpin. Even Eisenhower recognized the threat of an Industrial Complex embedded with the government. The only edge they (US) have is the technology. And, in order to keep the Materialists developing new weapons, they have to keep them wealthy. Then once you stockpile these weapons, they must be used, so they can be replenished.

    It’s simple, and genius.

  135. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    27 Oct, 2012 - 11:50 pm


    I sometime read this site, but cannot guarantee they are not disinformational.


  136. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    28 Oct, 2012 - 12:33 am

    Translation from Chinese to English

    “Analysis is very thorough, very much appreciate your views, study.”

    Is there some reason people post in their native tongue, while reading in English?

  137. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    28 Oct, 2012 - 12:46 am


    Please identify yourself…

  138. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    28 Oct, 2012 - 1:30 am

    I could be accused of giving comfort to the Enemy. It’s a shame we have to be so suspicious of the Agenda/Motives of commentators…..

    What am I saying? My avatar descriptor is sarcasm, but as we all know, that is very difficult to discern when culture/language is matched, or closely matched. Imagine a joke in English told in Chinese with the same language.

    Wars have been initiated, with less cause.

  139. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    28 Oct, 2012 - 1:39 am


    I’m talking to myself…

  140. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    28 Oct, 2012 - 1:41 am

    What happened to the Chinese comment?

    THIS is fucking weird. Jon?

    I’m fucking emailing you and Craig,

  141. Mark @ 1.51pm yesterday

    You are correct Mark. See here.


    The aphorism says it all. Talk about a veiled threat from one of the gangsters-in-chsrge.

    “The best defense is knowing what
    your enemies are up to, before they
    know you know it.”

    General Michael Hayden

    Michael Vincent Hayden (born March 17, 1945) is a retired United States Air Force four-star general and former Director of the National Security Agency and Director of the Central Intelligence Agency. From April 21, 2005 to May 26, 2006 he was the Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence, a position which once made him “the highest-ranking military intelligence officer in the armed forces”.[1]

    He was Director of the National Security Agency (NSA) from 1999 to 2005. During his tenure as director, the longest in the history of the agency, he oversaw the controversial NSA surveillance of technological communications between persons in the United States and alleged foreign terrorist groups, which resulted in the NSA warrantless surveillance controversy.

    On May 8, 2006, Hayden was nominated for the position of CIA Director and reappointment to the rank of general following the May 5 resignation of Porter J. Goss, and on May 23 the Senate Intelligence Committee voted 12–3 to send the nomination to the Senate floor. His nomination was confirmed by the United States Senate on May 26 by a vote of 78–15. On May 30, 2006 and again the following day at the CIA lobby with President George W. Bush in attendance, Hayden was sworn in as the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency.

    On July 1, 2008, Hayden retired from the Air Force after nearly 39 years of active-duty military service and continued to serve as Director of the CIA until 12 February 2009.[2] He is currently a principal at the Chertoff Group, a security consultancy co-founded by former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff.[3] Hayden also serves as a Distinguished Visiting Professor at George Mason University School of Public Policy and was elected to the Board of Directors of Motorola Solutions effective January 4, 2011.[4]

  142. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negation

    We now know > bombs =< medicine/drugs.

  143. Nevermind at 10.52 – yes exactly – unifying, collaborative, connective Love.

  144. @Ben Franklin. You supposition was that the war on terror will carry on just as the war on drugs.

    Well, we know that the war on drugs has clearly failed to stem the tide of drugs that the world demanded, indeed most argue that it was just a cover for organised Government social engineering, why else would police forces engage in drug trafficking?

    So, we know that the war on terror will fail, a retrograde step resulting in a 21st. century wild west, gun law ueber alles, so why not stop this money transfer from our taxes to those already immensely rich? when we already know?

    Is it some sort of upper class therapy we are involved in, trying to avert full psychopathy and deep depression, psychological illnesses that would be too mucgh for these captains of industry to bear, so we let these money addicts make more, every day.

    Should we tell them that they can’t eat it and that in itself money has no value whatsoever?

    What a silver lining, the war on terror will be lost, thanks for that Ben and thanks for being calm, collected and paying for it. who says there is no good news to be had.

  145. “we know that the war on terror will fail”

    The important requirement of these wars is not that they succeed or fail, just that they continue. There is no end but repetition. That’s Eliot, I think.

  146. @Ben Franklin – I zapped a Chinese comment a day or two ago, it was almost certainly spam.

    There was an item under a Chinese name at 3:08am today, but that seems to have been a joke by an anonymous poster. Have zapped that too.

  147. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    28 Oct, 2012 - 2:40 pm

    Jon; Thanks. It was unsettling as it appeared the poster deleted it’s own.


    “What a silver lining, the war on terror will be lost”

    It’s being lost every day.

  148. Some people have short memories:-


    This is something that affects, or could affect, everybody here. Africa’s problem is that the safeguards and checks we rely on to keep us safe have either been destroyed by corruption or were never there in the first place. It’s too often left to western centred NGO’s to police; certainly I think the authorities in India and China could be doing a lot more to stamp out this dreadful trade too.

    Counterfeit or fake would you really want to swallow something that had been knocked up in some filthy back-street workshop; even if it did contain the right ingredients?

  149. @Jon
    28 Oct, 2012 – 11:47 am

    I have it on good authority that whilst many other blogs, wordpress sites, etc. etc. cannot be accessed from within the Middle Kingdom, CM’s blog is always freely available!

  150. Somewhat tangential to this story but I muss confess it’s the first time I’ve heard of the World Customs Organisation. And I’m not sure I like the concept, although in this case their intervention seems perfectly adequate.

  151. Daniel Munro

    29 Oct, 2012 - 9:48 am

    What does fake mean in this context? Not the chemical it puports to be? Or does it mean not manufactured by the patent holder?

    From the press release: “During the course of the Operation, Customs officers on the ground used IPM (Interface Public Member), a tool developed by the WCO to enhance the ability of officials to identify counterfeit goods by accessing key information provided by right holders.”

    This suggests that there has been no chemical testing.

    Of the 82 million doses how many were chemically the correct medicine and have now been confiscated and disposed of?

    Are the people accusing others of genocide actualy culpable themselves?

  152. Uzbek in the UK

    30 Oct, 2012 - 2:36 pm

    Mr Murray
    You raised very serious and indeed important issue here. It reminds me how in the end of 1980th and beginning of 1990 fake drugs appeared in large numbers in Tashkent and other soviet towns. I recall conversations with doctors and pharmacists about people having some serious health issues from fake drugs and with lethal end in some cases. Those were the times of perestroika and weak governments in the beginning of post soviet independence. Most of fake drugs were not imported but produced locally, in the basements or rented small factories (cooperatives as they were called at those times).
    Corruption was the main reason of these fake drugs. Local inspectors were paid off, local police and other supervisory authorities were also paid off. Fake drugs market was huge as perestroika was followed by collapse of USSR and stagnation of industries including pharmaceutical. Only when problem became so serious that government got concerned with it, fake drugs disappeared.
    There might be certain true in blaming governments in India, China and elsewhere but the most serious failure is by African governments. If they are incapable of stopping fake drugs from entering their borders then it is unlikely that anything can be done to stop fake drugs appear in African markets. Even if China and India crack down on their fake drugs manufacturers (which is very unlikely) they can still be produced locally.

  153. Uzbek in the UK

    30 Oct, 2012 - 3:00 pm

    I might sound harsh but it seems you know less about China and Chinese government than I previously thought.
    Contrary to your argument I say it would be very much in the interests of Chinese government to supply fake drugs (not that I am saying that they are doing it) to Africa. Chinese population is well over 1.3 billion and despite growing urbanisation over 700 million of Chinese still live in rural areas, which comparing to big cities in China, are no different from rural areas in Cambodia or even rural areas in Africa. If you follow Chinese government policies in Xinjang you might have better understanding of meaning of Chinese policy of resettlement. I am not saying that Chinese government is already openly employing this policy in Africa but in long term this might be quite ‘interesting’ and ‘productive’ solution to problems or rural unemployment and over urbanisation in China.
    As for India the same is being done towards Muslim population. Nothing new here. Do not get me wrong. I am not saying that Indian government is supplying fake drugs to Muslims in India, but quite openly supplying Muslims with sores quality of goods, underdeveloping Muslim regions and keeping their eyes shut on multiple abuses and killing of Muslims in various Indian cities and villages.
    It concerns me that so much attention on this blog is paid (and quite deservingly) to the problems of atrocities committed toward Muslims by western governments BUT almost NO attention whatsoever is paid to the atrocities committed toward Muslims in either China, India or Russia.
    African soil rich with minerals could be very valuable target to Asian economic giants, and some local inhabitants should not be a problem especially if “right measures” preemptively employed. After all this issue (local population) did not stop westerners from benefiting on richness of African soil, did it? Why then should in stop emerging Asian economic giants from benefiting from Africa?

  154. Uzbek, it’s an interesting idea. I think its applicability depends on whether the Chinese government continues on the path of a globalised mixed economy (which has already raised the standard of living for millions of Chinese) or reverts to total state control. Even so, China has historically tended to keep its empire contiguous rather than going thousands of miles in search of lebensraum. It’s after resources, not administrative nightmares. And poisoning the sick does nothing whatever about the healthy inhabitants.

    I think the reason some of us get exercised about atrocities and wars in the ME is that they are by US and represented as being conducted on OUR behalf, and without our consent. And, face it, there’s so much shit going on, you can only hope to keep in touch with a small part of it. but I’m sorry.

  155. Uzbek in the UK

    1 Nov, 2012 - 2:06 pm

    Reverse of China to total state control is impossible for many reasons. China today sends over 20 thousands students abroad (mostly to English speaking universities) to study various disciplines including business and economics.
    It seems that China tended to isolate itself but on the other hand they have expanded to Eastern Turkestan today’s Xinjang which was populated by Muslims who are decending to minority today, thanks to Beijing’s re-settlement programme. Something I fear might go further beyond Xinjang in future. If you are seriously interested in understanding how China deals with those who are weaker than they, you are very welcome to visit either Xinjang or eastern Kazakhstan or eastern Kyrgyzstan.
    Poisoning sick does nothing to healthy but as far as Mr Murray stated fake medication of different kind are imported to Africa and not only those which treat specific illnesses. Antibiotics for instances are used by everyone at least once during lifetime. Fake antibiotics could kill people who are generally healthily but happened to get sick possibly once in their lifetime.
    The argument about wars being waged by US and the west on YOUR behalf and without YOUR consent is nonsense. You (unlike my fellow uzbek citizens) have right to elect government. DO elect a government that will NOT wage wars on YOUR behalf without asking YOUR consent first.
    When China and Russia are considered as good guys just because they oppose US who is waging wars in ME without YOUR consent and ignoring the fact that over 40 million Muslims in China and Russia and over 200 million Muslims in India are treated 2nd class citizens looks like hypocrisy to me.

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