CIA Plot Against Correa Funded by Drug Money

by craig on November 9, 2012 2:59 pm in Uncategorized

Hillary Clinton is repeating the methodology of the Iran/Contra affair, using “black” funds to finance the operation to ensure President Correa is not re-elected.

I had two excellent sources for the news that the US/UK strategy against Julian Assange was to ensure the defeat of President Correa in Presidential elections next spring, and then have him expelled from the Ecuadorean Embassy. One source was within the UK civil service and one in Washington. Both had direct, personal access to the information I described. Both told me in the knowledge I would publish it.

Of course Assange is not the only reason Clinton wants rid of Correa; but it adds spice and urgency.

We now have completely independent evidence from Chile that this CIA operation exists, from journalists who were investigating a smuggling operation involving 300 kg per month of cocaine, organised by the Chilean army and security services.

The links to US intelligence emerged after an anonymous source from the Agencia Nacional de Inteligencia (ANI) told Panoramas News that the smuggling of 300 kilos of cocaine was in fact a highly sensitive CIA/DEA operation that would help to raise money to topple the government of Ecuador. The operation is similar to the one carried out by the Agency in Central America during the Iran-Contra scandal in the 1980’s, the source said.

A few days ago I published information I had received that Patricio Mery Bell, the director of the news programme which broke the story, had been lured to a meeting with a young lady “informant” who had worked with CIA-backed anti-Cuban groups in Miami. She had then accused him of sexual assault (does any of that scenario sound familiar?) He was arrested and his materials had been confiscated. However I took the article down after jst a few minutes because I had received the information in emails from sources I did not know previously, and was unsure it could stand up. It does now appear that this is indeed true.

My Washigton informant had told me, as I published, that the funds for the anti-Correa operation were not from the CIA budget but from secret funds controlled by the Pentagon. This could not be done by CIA funds because, perhaps surprisingly, for the CIA to operate in this way is a crime in the United States.

Whether my informant knew or suspected that the “secret Pentagon funds” were drug money I do not know. They did not mention narcotics.

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  1. “From the first time Hugo Chavez was elected President of Venezuela in 1998, Washington and its allies have been trying to undermine his government.”

    http://www.chavezcode.com/2012/07/venezuela-threat-to-washington.html

    If you want to know what is going on in South America the above is the site that will tell you.

  2. After US troops kidnapped the Honduras president, it was obvious Saurons eye had turned to Central and South America once again.The wave of socialism sweeping Latin America riled a US , used to having Junta’s and death squads keep the people in their place.
    It’s not only Correa that’s in their sights. How many attempts has there been on Chavez?
    Over 100 years of Meddling.

  3. Craig, I’m still having to access your site via proxy server, because somehow there’s no finding it through my Qatar internet provider. (QTEL).
    Strange thing is, though, that I don’t get the standard “blocked” message from the Qatar censors. Instead, there’s a message from Google, viz : “Oops! Google Chrome could not find http://www.craigmurray.org.uk“.

    Why would google fail to find you?

  4. Strange that Patricio Mery Bell still seems to be using Twitter as he was doing on the day that last post about him went up.

    https://twitter.com/PatricioMery

  5. William Blum on the same subject in July this year in his Anti Empire Report.

    http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/07/assange-and-correa-drones-and-justice-to-affordable-care-act/

    sub-heading Julian Assange

    [..]
    You think with the whole world watching, the United States would not be so obvious as to target Assange with a drone? They’ve done it with American citizens. Assange is a mere Aussie.

    And Ecuador and its president, Rafael Correa, will pay a price. You think with the whole world watching, the United States would not intervene in Ecuador? In Latin America, it comes very naturally for Washington. During the Cold War it was said that the United States could cause the downfall of a government south of the border … with a frown. The dissolution of the Soviet Union didn’t bring any change in that because it was never the Soviet Union per se that the United States was fighting. It was the threat of a good example of an alternative to the capitalist model.

    For example, on January 21, 2000 in Ecuador, where almost two-thirds live in poverty, a very large number of indigenous peasants rose up in desperation and marched to the capital city of Quito, where they were joined by labor unions and some junior military officers (most members of the army being of indigenous stock). This coalition presented a list of economic demands, seized the Congress and Supreme Court buildings, and forced the president to resign. He was replaced by a junta from the ranks of the new coalition. The Clinton administration was alarmed. Besides North American knee-reflex hostility to anything that look or smells like a leftist revolution, Washington had big plans for a large military base in Manta (later closed by Correa). And Colombia — already plagued by leftist movements — was next door.
    [..]

    /..

  6. “Michael Vernon Townley was born in Waterloo, Iowa, in 1942. His father, Vernon Townley, was appointed head of the Ford Motor Company in Chile.”

    http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKtownleyM.htm

  7. Teymoor: Sounds more like a DNS problem.

  8. technicolour

    9 Nov, 2012 - 4:26 pm

    Nice one (as it were). Happened in Afghanistan too.

  9. The illegality holds no consequences – After Iran/Contra Oliver North went on to be a senator and radio host.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_North

  10. Sorry I misread the wikipedia article – North unsuccessfully ran for the senate

  11. willyrobinson

    9 Nov, 2012 - 4:50 pm

    Interesting interview – Mery Bell seems to have very detailed and specific information from the Agencia Nacional de Inteligencia (ANI), and is naming names. Let’s see in the next 24 hours who wants to know…

  12. willyrobinson

    9 Nov, 2012 - 5:07 pm

    No sign of this so far in the Spanish press…

  13. willyrobinson

    9 Nov, 2012 - 5:27 pm

    This video (audio really) is easier to understand and the material more detailed and better explained especially if, like me, your Spanish is not quite up to Chilean speed.
    .
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr3IxCp0GJ0
    .
    Don Patricio Mery Bell – si estas leyendo esto, pues muchas gracias por ser tan valiente por sacar a la luz todo esto.

  14. conjunction

    9 Nov, 2012 - 5:28 pm

    the drug trade, of course, being the method used by the CIA to fund the contras, with the slight side effect being tens of thousands of deaths in the subsequent Mexican drug wars, cf the book “Dark Alliance”

  15. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    9 Nov, 2012 - 5:29 pm

    I wish I had learned Spanish.

    Drugs are often used to cover the cash trail. Is POTUS always privy to covert ops? I don’t think so…..plausible deniability and all that. I happen to live in a Medical Marijuana state. Obama, up until re-election, has sent DEA in to harass providers, I surmise, to offset criticisms of his past recreational drug use. But I have no doubt for CIA or NSA, this is SOP.

    The Espionage Act of 1917 was originally written to stop the German spies of WWI, and has since been abused by targeting dissidents. I am certain they would feel no compunction to expand that rationale to include Correa, using Assange as the excuse.

  16. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    9 Nov, 2012 - 5:31 pm

  17. IRAN – CONTRA – 1

    John Stockwell put it as clearly as any man could. –

    “I don’t mean to abuse you with verbal violence, but you have to understand what your government and its agents are doing. They go into villages, they haul out families. With the children forced to watch they castrate the father, they peel the skin off his face, they put a grenade in his mouth and pull the pin. With the children forced to watch they gang-rape the mother, and slash her breasts off. And sometimes for variety, they make the parents watch while they do these things to the children.” These are not just words. It is also real. Real mothers. Real children. Real fathers. Real death.

    “We do not parachute teams into the Soviet Union to haul families out at night and castrate the father with the children watching, because they have the Bomb, and a big army, and they would parachute teams right back into our country and do the same thing to us – they’re not scared of us. For slightly different reasons, but also obvious reasons, we don’t do these things in England, or France, or Germany, or Sweden, or Italy, or Japan. What comes out at you immediately is that these 1 to 3 million direct victims, the dead, and in these other wars, they’re people of the third world. They’re people of the Metumba mountains of the Congo, and the jungles of Southeast Asia, and now the hills of northern Nicaragua – 12,000 peasants. We have not killed KGB or Russian army advisors in Nicaragua. We are not killing Cuban advisors. We’re not killing very many Sandinistas. The 12,000 that we have killed in Nicaragua are peasants, who have the misfortune of living in a CIA’s chosen battlefield. Mostly women and children. Communists? Far, far, far more Catholics than anything else.”

(*) “Now case officers that do these things in places in Nicaragua, they do not come back to the U.S. (or UK. Ed.) and click their heels and suddenly become responsible citizens. They see themselves – they have been functioning above the laws, of God, and the laws of man – they’ve come back to this country, and they’ve continued their operations as far as they can get by with them. And we have abundant documentation of that as well. The MH-Chaos program, exposed in the late 60’s and shut down, re-activated by President Reagan to a degree – we don’t have the details yet – in which they were spending a billion dollars to manipulate U.S. student, and labor organizations. The MK-ultra program. For 20 years, working through over 200 medical schools and mental hospitals, including Harvard medical school, Georgetown, some of the biggest places we’ve got, to experiment on American citizens with disease, and drugs.”

    from Part 2 – John Stockwell

    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Stockwell/StockwellCIA87_2.html

    Part 1 –

    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Stockwell/John_Stockwell.html and

    – Video – John Stockwell – “Third World War” – Forty years of Secret Wars of the C1A – 6 million killed –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3ioJGMCr-Y

    John Stockwell

    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Stockwell/John_Stockwell.html and

    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Stockwell/StockwellCIA87_2.html

    ‘America’s Third World War – 6m to 20m Killed,’ by John Stockwell –

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4068.htm

    Wiki – excellent links – now edited out, naturally. Spend a few minutes comparing edits of ‘External links’ for the good stuff ; )

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stockwell

    Johan Galtung – the US empire has murdered 12m or 16m in forty years. “The difference is between overt murders and including covert murders by the US.” In illegal wars and genocides. –

    ‘How would we know that the Empire is dead?” – Johan Galtung –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRXmk7piHXY

    CASABLANCA

    The Captain Renault Award for recognizing US Empire illegal war, murder, torture-to-death and 27,000 missing ‘disappeared’ Muslims (“Are they alive or are they in mass graves?” – Robert Fisk). –

    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-obama-has-to-pay-for-eight-years-of-bushs-delusions-1001092.html

    Given to those Shocked, Shocked! at the obvious. – Original – Casablanca – ; ) –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1DEG6BWgp0

  18. Mr Craig Murray, sir, well done again. This blog is the first place to look for the real news.

    According to Guy Sims’ great book on Julian Assange in Sweden, it seems more than likely that Assange was let out of the country (Sweden) – he had a meeting in Germany – so that the Swedish secret services could steal 3 of his laptops, and that was the purpose of the rape allegations, which were raised as he left for the airport. Airport personnel though should have arrested him since he was wanted for questioning. They didn’t but confiscated his laptops. His defence lawyer had asked Marianne Ny if it was all right for him to leave the country and she had confirmed that it was. The next day she issued the rape accusations. Isn’t this exactly the same as the above Patricio Mery Bell honey-trap? How often do they pull the same trick? If it wasn’t so serious it would be laughable.

    You must buy this book everybody. Less than $3.

    http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/233304

  19. They have done it before in the Laos triangle, bumping up the annual production of opium from 4 tons to 200tons just before the outbreak of the Vietnam war and during the first part of it. The CIA has form.

    Can Correas compadre Hugo Chavez outdo the 300kg cowboys, after all he has just been promised 40 billion dollars from China. Is Hugo Chavez big hearted enough to help a third country infesting the electoral process with bribes and innuendo?

    Should this not be muito importande? Promoting the unity of South American democracies, against US manipulation and interference at the ballot box.

  20. IRAN – CONTRA – 2

    PSYCHOPATHS ‘R US DEPARTMENT

    Duane Claridge of the CIA Department of Operations — ‘Torture, Murder and Genocide ‘R US’ — reveals his inner psychopath to John Pilger – Gunning down protesters – the same old same old. –

    The same Duane Claridge who most recently apparently provided the (fake? in)security for the US Benghazi CIA station that got the US ambassador killed. (A US Empire Neo-Con Nazi false flag attack on … the US? NO change there, then! ).

    Which is as good a reason as any for _not_ pardoning Iran-Contra psychopathic murdering torture-to-death genocidaires … Oops! Too late now, at least for the US State Department victims.

    Hard luck. Perhaps you were working for the wrong fascist Empire? Better luck next time!

    Except that there is no next time. Not for you and not for the 12m to 16m other victims of the US Empire’s (Neo-Con?) Nazis. –

    – Duane Claridge with John Pilger – Torture, Murder and Genocide is _so_ American – ‘War on Democracy’ –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5L1VdlktOw#t=00m40s

    Witness to summary executions by US forces in Panama – Tell US that this didn’t happen, is not happening today, in Iraq, Afghanistan and now Libya. Because reports say that is _exactly_ what is happening. – The Panama Deception. – @ 45.08

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfWz20nDAyI#t=42m27s

    Venezuela coup – US coup elements assassinating protesters with high-powered rifles and claiming that it was the Chavez government firing on their own people. No change there, then!

    – Also notable are the ultra-right wing — barking mad / lying-through-their-teeth — TV stations who claimed that the Chavez government was firing on their own people.

    John Pilger’s War on Democracy documentary cuts away to show that those firing on the crowds were elite police units — part of the coup –, assassinating civilians so that the right could blame it on the Chavez government. The crowd is firing back at empty streets and the coup’s gunmen. The right wing N_zis cut the TV footage to show the opposite, naturally. As seen in every US coup since forever … (Teheran’s Neda for one). –

    @ 23.00 – John Pilger’s ‘War on Democracy’ – Vimeo –

    http://vimeo.com/16724719

    UP THE USUK NEO-CON NAZI NONCE EMPIRE !

    Just say “Up yours” to USUK Empire Neo-Con Nazi mass psychosis! –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jYoeqUs2KI#t=00m52s

    USUK Empire Neo-Con Nazism made mainstream by ‘Biggus Dickus,’ (of Wome on the Potomac) — Big Oil tool and US Torture promoter – brought to Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Sudan, Aden, Syria, Egypt, Uzbekistan, Poland, Lithuania and many, many more —

    – “You lucky bastard” – Monty Python – Life of Brian –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TPQ0DEVaEk#t=0m40s

  21. Breaking: CIA Director Petraeus Resigns Over ‘Extra-Marital Affair’ — Letter of resignation by David H. Petraeus has been submitted to President Barack Obama
    09 Nov 2012

    Source: CLG

  22. Makes me wonder whether the brown stuff is about to hit the spinning blades on their drug operations in South America

  23. Given the whole Iran-Contra stuff – and the way the Bush junior admin funded ‘black ops’ in the middle east with drug money to avoid congressional oversight – i wouldn’t be at all surprised if this was true.

  24. JOHN LE CARRE

    John le Carre – “The United States has gone mad”. No change there, then! John le Carre gives it to the US Empire (Neo-Con?) Nazis with both barrels.

    – ‘The United States has gone mad’ – Democracy Now 2010 –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um2Cb7oSVU0

    John le Carre on the US Neo-Con Nazis – ‘the wrong element in the US’ (*1) – HA! -, Thatcher, War and more.

    Remember that Thatcher sold out Britain on oil, giving ownership of the oil to US Empire oil companies, with some to the UK elite. Which wealth went offshore, naturally.

    Which might be another reason why John le Carre says, “Under Thatcher whose influence upon my country I detest….” – @ 4.50 –

    “We in old Europe know about war and we don’t want anymore war. We hate war. The United States, alas, has still to interpret politics in military terms and that’s a catastrophe.” @6.00 –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eukzmGPDHJE#t=04m50s

    Neo-Cons – ‘A plundering movement.’ Le Carre has the measure of the Neo-Con Nazi _uggers! –

    Q. Why is there a war on terror?

    A. “Because the US has not learned how to hold itself together without an external enemy.” “What you have to do – ask Karl Rove – is make sure that people are frightened.” !!! – @3.36 –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGhNVmZlGyo#t=03m36s

    “These days it’s very hard to buy, or to read, uninfluenced, unbought, opinion. Whether in the press, in politics, on radio, on television. Increasingly people are afraid of offending against the corporate or the collective voice.” Which doesn’t even start to consider the (im)pure propaganda organs (like the Grauniad and Monbiot and oh so many more!? See Operation Mockingbird! ; ) Ed). –

    – Part 3 – @ 7.18

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eukzmGPDHJE#t=07m18s

    “What do you think US Empire (Neo-Con?) Nazi murderers are?” (ER, Spies? And/or Muppet Stream Media journalists, naturally. ; ) Ed.) – *** Crank the volume, it’s too low *** –

    – The Spy Who Came In From The Cold –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOUtFzeMhhA

    PEACE IN OUR TIME?

    ‘Peace in Our Time.’ (But not if the USUK Empire (Neo-Con?) Nazi Nonces have anything to do with it?!) – John Cleese –

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmwmuPTa0To

  25. This is a major scoop, Craig. I – and I’m sure many others who peruse this excellent site – will spread it widely. Let’s see whether or not the MSM firstly, pick it up and secondly, link it to, among other matters, the Assange situation. Will we read a headline such as:

    !!PENTAGON RUNS DRUGS IN SOUTH AMERICA TO UNSEAT DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT!!

    or

    MEET YOUR NEW DRUG-DEALERS – OBAMA AND CLINTON!

    or even:

    GOTCHA!!

    I doubt it.

    Like Technicolour, the first thing I thought of in relation to similar tactics being used sytemically by the USA (apart from in South and Central America, of course) was Afghanistan. Heroin, coke… you name it, for decades the hyperpower has been peddling it, both domestically and internationally.

  26. Yes ExPat. You say ‘Remember that Thatcher sold out Britain on oil,…’

    Enterprise Oil is a case in point. It belonged to THE PEOPLE as did its oilfields. She privatised it and eventually it was flogged off to Shell in 2002 when Blair was in power.

    Note the involvement of our new Archbishop of Canterbury in Enterprise.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_Oil

  27. I expect it is not news now that Petraeus, appointed head of the CIA after his successes in Afghanistan, has resigned following his admitting to having an extra marital affair. Drugs in Afghanistan, CIA involvement in S American drugs. Drugs and the US go together. Petraeus must be very experienced in the drugs business.

  28. Trouble at Mill down at the BBC. Unreserved apologies all round to Lord McAlpine. A senior news executive has been sent in by Entwistle to supervise tonight’s tranmission of Newsnight etc. Murdoch must be loving all this.

    Q Why did the police allegedly tell Steve Meesham that the person he identified from a photo that they supplied was Lord McAlpine? Also why didn’t the BBC make checks before they broadcast that programme in which Lord McAlpine was named.

  29. Well,

    as Clinton pointed out in 2011, drugs can’t be legalized, because “there is too much money in it”.

    http://www.america.gov/st/texttrans-english/2011/January/20110125162820su0.454414.html&distid=ucs
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/07/clinton-legalize-drugs-too-much-money/

    … the just didn’t mention what the purpose of this money is …

  30. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    9 Nov, 2012 - 10:35 pm

    Heh; Indeedy, Maze. The War on Drugs has been a failure as to the putative purpose, but the ramping up of prices because it is a Black Market, augers well for money-laundering spooks,and below the Public’s awareness is the Real Deal.

  31. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    9 Nov, 2012 - 11:16 pm

    This is not a product of just the 20th/21st centuries

    Drugs have always been the currency of Aggressors…….Opium Wars.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars

  32. “Makes me wonder whether the brown stuff is about to hit the spinning blades on their drug operations in South America”

    I thought the same, Craig! That’d be worth a headline or two …

  33. Mary at 10:14pm on 9.11.12:

    Off-topic, but I don’t think the BBC named him; he was named on the web by others. I think that he is claiming that the innuendo in the MSM, combined with the naming of him on the web, was defamatory.

    It does seem odd that the man who claimed that he’d been abused as a child didn’t check the photo of the politician on the web in recent times (obviously it wouldn’t been there 20 years ago) – but for over a decade it’ll have been very easily available – before supposedly making the accusations in public. Did he just assume that the police had told him the truth? Would he not wish to check? Now he’s apologising.

    All somewhat peculiar. If I were cynical, I’d say this reminds me just a little of the despatching of Piers Morgan as a mainstream tabloid editor when he fell for faked pictures of British soldiers urinating on Iraqis – in fact, British soldiers had done that, but the actual photos he was given were faked, so it was a trap. Or maybe this controversy now is simply down to incompetance, cover-up (20 years ago) or ignorance. Or has the man been threattened in some way, and so now is retracting and apologising?

    Furthermore, if, 20 years ago, the police thought any senior politician (or indeed, anyone) allegedly had committed such acts, why would they not seek prosecution? let’s see if such questions will be aksed, or will this become, simply and narrowly, another stick with which to beat a (granted, deeply flawed) public sevrice broadcaster?

  34. Is this week’s farrago the result of an attempt to throw people off the scent, or to discredit the victims, given that big questions about top people now are being asked in broad daylight wrt Wales and elsewhere? Does anyone smell the hand of the Security Service in this? Am I overly suspicious? is it surprising that I might be, given, say, the Hillborough conspiracy and much else?

  35. Yeah what a surprise, the sources are president Correa and anonymous intelligence officers. Add a claim of historical reminiscence and voila – anti-war activists are going to run with this like mad. This is like a story from Press TV.

  36. ‘They have done it before in the Laos triangle, bumping up the annual production of opium from 4 tons to 200tons just before the outbreak of the Vietnam war and during the first part of it. The CIA has form.’

    Good point Nevermind- for chapter & verse on the origins of the CIA drug traffic connection the best sources are Alfred McCoy & Peter Dale Scott. An excellent introduction to the research undertaken by the latter in this area is available here-

    http://japanfocus.org/-Peter_Dale-Scott/3436

  37. Michal

    When the CIA does this kind of thing (and there is no doubt it does. All evidence is in the past by definition – but hardly “historical reminiscence”) – what kind of evidence do you think there might be apart from “Anonymous intelligence officers”? Do you think there is a CIA document entitled “Masterplan for narcotics smuggling to fund illegal attempt to remove Correa” which you can obtain under the Freedom of Information Act?

    My sources are not anonymous to me – and I presume that Mery Bell’s sources are not anonymous to him. I had never heard of him before, but I already trusted my own sources and Mery Bell’s Chilean information appears powerful corroboration.

    Or are you claiming I am making it all up? If you want to come out and say that, you had better man up, reveal your real identity and not hide behind anonymity.

  38. Well Craig, my identity is surely no more of an enigma than the identity of the good men and/or women, who are hard at work here trying to shed public light on the enormous CIA drug smuggling operation, but please no cameras.

    I in fact do have significant doubt over whether CIA “does this kind of thing”. Not only CIA, but also apparently the Chileans as well.

    You may trust your sources and Patricio Mery Bell may trust his, but why should I trust either of you? How do I know neither of you has been duped – as these things, such as planted newspaper articles, did happen a lot during the Cold War? Had there been a CIA document called “Masterplan for narcotics smuggling to fund illegal attempt to remove Correa” that were to be released, it certainly would give a powerful boost to the case being made here. But right now it’s just a socialist journalist, of whom I know nothing, and an assange supporter working together as an echo chamber to president Correa, who made the same claims also without apparently making any substantial proof public. Just to make a note: I am not saying that you personally are being dishonest, I think you are a very honest person, but perhaps with a cognitive bias.

  39. Michal:

    “I in fact do have significant doubt over whether CIA “does this kind of thing”.”

    Watch this space closely to have your doubts removed.

    Meantime, re-read Craig’s last sentence: “Whether my informant knew or suspected that the “secret Pentagon funds” were drug money I do not know. They did not mention narcotics.”

    So what is it precisely that you find incredible?

  40. Villager: The entire article published here is built on the basis that it is drug money, therefore I went from there. I guess it is plausible that CIA would be buttressing up efforts to remove Correa through funding the opposition, but I have significant doubts over whether they’d be so desperate as to smuggle hundreds of kilograms of drugs in cooperation with Chilean secret service. And here comes the question: if there are no drugs involved, why do we have a Chilean journalist making the the same claim as Craig Murray, but slightly improved with the presence of such vile goods as drugs, on the basis of a single anonymous “intelligence source” ?

  41. Well, Hillary Clinton would certainly know who to ask for advice about smuggling cocaine out of South America…..

    “Say Bill, give me the phone number of that pilot you regularly used to ship cocaine into Mena airport, back when you were governor of Askansas. What, you had him killed? Oh well, I’m sure the C.I.A. can arrange another….”

  42. From Progreso Weekly

    HAVANA /QUITO – President Rafael Correa of Ecuador said that, beginning in January 2013, the tax on the profits of private banks will be increased by 3 percent. The proceeds from that tax increase will benefit about 2 million poor Ecuadoreans, raising their monthly stipend from 35 to 50 dollars.

    The stipend, known as the Human Development Bonus (BDH) is delivered by the State to the most vulnerable sectors of the population. The profits made by bankers totaled 393 million dollars last year.

    The decision to socialize the profits of the nation’s banks is part of a broad program to benefit society, carried out by the Citizens’ Revolution. In this case, it will benefit disabled people, many of whom were “discovered” by the Manuela Espejo Mission*, with Cuban assistance, in the most remote corners of the Andean nation.

    The added tax also helps single mothers and the elderly, to whom the government guarantees their basic meals. The Correa government only asks the beneficiaries to bring their children into the educational system and take advantage of preventive health programs.

    Correa has pointed out that, while money transfers do not eliminate poverty, they mitigate the vulnerability of large sectors of the population.

    When making the announcement, Correa showed videos that showed banker Guillermo Lasso rejecting this program of aid to the needy. Although Lasso had opposed “government subsidies,” when he became a candidate for president he offered to raise the BDH up to 50 dollars. Correa took him up on that offer and surprised Lasso, who had proposed that the raise be funded by cutting back public works.

    Correa’s moves in favor of social equity are welcomed by the various social sectors and, to a degree, hinder the United States’ plans to prevent his reelection to the presidency. According to the former British diplomat Craig Murray, Washington is working “to influence the Ecuadorean elections” so the president will be ousted on Feb. 17, 2013, date of the election.

  43. ‘According to the former British diplomat Craig Murray, Washington is working “to influence the Ecuadorean elections” so the president will be ousted on Feb. 17, 2013, date of the election.’

    As Craig is now being quoted in the context of this story, and as he said in the previous post he took down, he had better made sure that he is never in the sole company of a woman on his travels!

  44. It seems this morning that the Director of the CIA has resigned over an extra marital affair….how did you arrange that one Craig…lol..

  45. “It seems this morning that the Director of the CIA has resigned”

    He may soon emerage from the ashes, could be the next President of the United States of America ?, the strong leader, needed to lead in a time of emergency, we live in strange times.

  46. Probably off topic.

    This is what should be read out at the Cenotaph by Cameron and across the country.

    There an inhuman and uncultured race
    Howled hideous praises to their Demon-God;
    They rushed to war, tore from the mother’s womb
    The unborn child – old age and infancy
    Promiscuous perished; their victorious arms
    Left not a soul to breathe. Oh! they were fiends!
    But what was he who taught them that the God
    Of Nature and benevolence had given
    A special sanction to the trade of blood?
    His name and theirs are fading, and the tales
    Of this barbarian nation, which imposture
    Recites till terror credits, are pursuing
    Itself into forgetfulness.

    [..]

    From kings and priests and statesmen war arose,
    Whose safety is man’s deep unbettered woe,
    Whose grandeur his debasement. Let the axe
    Strike at the root, the poison-tree will fall;
    And where its venomed exhalations spread
    Ruin, and death, and woe, where millions lay
    Quenching the serpent’s famine, and their bones
    Bleaching unburied in the putrid blast,
    A garden shall arise, in loveliness
    Surpassing fabled Eden.

    http://rickrozoff.wordpress.com/2012/11/10/shelley-man-fabricates-the-sword-which-stabs-his-peace/

    in conjunction with {http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/to-honor-value-of-single-life-first.html} By Arthur Silber. It’s rather long, but worth it.

  47. Lots of info on the matter
    http://www.narconews.com/

  48. There is a massive amount of documented information, widely accepted and very easily available in the mainstream that confirms that the CIA does do precisely “this type of thing”. Afghanistan/Nicaragua and Colombia are just two examples. It’s entirely normal business as usual for the CIA and/or Pentagon. I mean, really, Michal, fool me once…

  49. Petraeus’s departure is strangely timed. First for anything of this magnitude to be announced a couple of days after the election can surely be no coincidence. Second there has been a shift of power in America’s military strategy which some must be unhappy about. Drones are managed by the CIA and are a big deal, traditionally the Military manages overseas conflicts in terms of hardware and manpower. Was Petraeus moved out because some high-flyers in the US Military forced him out and the exposure of his affair was just an opening shot? Someone as powerful as the Head of the CIA would not be so vulnerable to removal based on private issues as simple as a slightly grubby love affair unless it had been with someone directly connected to an overseas hostile government.

  50. Suhayl, I agree there is a smell of coordination.

    That a victim has only now seen a photograph of who he accuses is hard to believe. That Newsnight did not think to show him is harder to believe. That a light entertainer would take it upon himself to confront the pm is simply unbelievable.

    Then add in a barrage of wild accusations online. How many ridiculous lists of names were posted by strangers on this site?

    Then fog everything further with multiple enquiries

    Now the child abuse scandals are dead. The corporate media are further tamed. This will be cited when laws are used to retrict free speech online. The genuine accusations lost to libel threats. The victims and their long term supporters must be distraught. The corrupt politicians of Jersey will be celebrating.

    Conspiracy or cock up? Either way it is a terrible day for justice.

  51. I agree with you Suhayl. A contrivance. Old Eddie Mair doing the sackcloth and ashes bit last night and at the end him saying ‘Newsnight will be back on the air next week’, adding ‘probably’ as the credits rolled. No editorial name was shown and Helen Boaden’s name did not appear. I guess she was the senior news executive put i/c of last night’s performance.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01nwxt4/Newsnight_09_11_2012/ First 22 mins

    Aren’t we the lucky ones to have the BBC!

    They even had St Esther of Rantzen on to say that the BBC could be trusted if they asked the likes of her to come on the programme to say mea culpa. She has admitted recently that she knew about Sa Vile and of course, her husband Desmond Wilcox was i/c of fearures at the BBC in Sa Vile’s time.

    I see he converted to Judaism eight years before he died, presumably to fit in with Esther’s beliefs. He was said to have been a plagiarist also. {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Wilcox}

  52. The woman is question is Paula Broadwell, nee Kranz.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Paula-Broadwell-Woman-who-had-extramarital-affair-with-ex-CIA-director-David-Petraeus-is-high-achiever/articleshow/17168110.cms

    How about being a model for a machine gun manufacturer? :) There’s an opportunity for Nadine Dorries when she is booted out as she will be. She has already upset Agent Cameron by referring to him and Osborne as ‘two arrogant posh boys’.

  53. Interesting comment on the Torygraph piece on the sacking of the Lockheed Martin incoming president and CEO.

    Noonetovotefor
    Today 04:28 AM

    I smell a rat. The head of the CIA steps down after an alleged affair and now this. Has Obama crushed another coup attempt?

    Its funny that a corporation[s] can have such draconian rules on the personal relationships they decide to develope and yet banks allow their employees to take staggering risks and break countless laws and regulation.

    A judge has recently lambasted Apple executives for terrible judgement…they are still in post planning to waste yet more corporate money. Samsung will crush Apple to its core!lol
    ~~~~~~
    What is going on?
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/defence/9668671/Lockheed-Martin-chief-designate-Christopher-Kubasik-sacked-over-relationship-with-employee.html

    PS I always think of our 2011 Census info which in the hands of Lockheed Martin when I see the name.
    Another campaign which went nowhere. {http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/mar/18/lockheed-martin-targeted-census-protesters}

  54. doug scorgie

    10 Nov, 2012 - 2:14 pm

    Michal
    “I guess it is plausible that CIA would be buttressing up efforts to remove Correa through funding the opposition…”

    You can be sure that the CIA will be funding the opposition in Ecuador, all the Central and South American States, Iran, Syria etc. But this costs money. Money that is not forthcoming from official channels in the USA i.e. Congress.
    There is a wealth of evidence in publications and on the internet that the CIA has a long history of organising assassinations, murders, coups etc. If they are not funded by US taxpayer dollars, how are these illegal operations funded?

    By the way I use my real name in posts.

  55. @ Suhayl Saadi 11:22 am

    Okay, let’s see the abundance of widely accepted and available mainstream evidence of CIA drug trafficking. The only problem might be there isn’t any, the CIA never was involved in drug trafficking, not even in Nicaragua, although it has cooperated with drug traffickers. Notice the small but important difference there. The issue has been investigated at length and the accusations have never been confirmed. If you have some sort of groundbreaking evidence, you should sue all the bastards. Until then it’s all hot air and nothing but.

    @ Doug Scorgie 2:14 pm

    Congratulations on using your real name. Your mother must be proud. Judging by your post I’d even have to wonder whether CIA has a budget at all. Guess it’s a drug trafficking gang instead, nevermind part of its mission is fight against drug trafficking.

  56. Michal, as you well know, the evidence is extensive. Here, in the next few posts, are some articles/book excerpts that refers to some of this evidence, but there is much more.

    Your allegation of there being subtle differences b/w “cooperating with drug traffickers” and “being involved in drug trafficking” is a somewhat hilarious play on semantics. It’s like saying, “I wasn’t involved in arms-dealing, I simply was cooperating with arms dealers”. Yeah, sure. So, clearly, even you find yourself unable to deny that the US state has been deeply involved in – cooperating with, whatever – the drug trade. I would argue that it’s not simply been ‘cooperation’ (and what does that mean, exactly, ‘cooperation’ – were they holding the hands of the drug dealers, giving them energy drinks and health promotion advice, singing lullabies to them at night, what?), but systemic, active involvement with airfields, hangars, the lot. The CIA and Pentagon have much white powder up their very elegant noses. Oh, and it being close to Remembrance Sunday, let’s not forget too that they have lots of poppies in their handbags.

    It is interesting that Craig Murray’s major news scoop – for that is what this is – has frightened those who support the foreign policy objectives of the USA imperium. That is a good sign. Spread the word, folks!

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/cia-was-embroiled-in-contra-drug-fund-1314147.html

  57. ‘Cocaine Politics: Drugs, Armies and the CIA In Central America (Scott and Marshall):

    http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=vgthWZ5KlskC&pg=PR8&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

  58. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    10 Nov, 2012 - 3:56 pm

    Michal; Do you think covert ops are just a fashion statement? The only resource for credible reports are former spooks who blow the whistle. Yes, sometimes they screw up (as they did by inadvertently sending a Telex regarding the deposing of the PM of Australia in 1975, which Chris Boyce picked up, and went Manning x 10. But we don’t often get corroborated info regarding CIA, until it’s been declassified (ARGO)

    But this account describing Air America is not friendly to the notion of AA dealing in drugs, but makes some grudging concessions.

    http://www.air-america.org/About/History.shtml

  59. “Chairman Vaz tries to bring him back to the area of concern about the amount of money being laundered from drug profits through US and EU banks”

    http://rowans-blog.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/the-fsa-proves-that-it-has-finally-lost.html

  60. Whiteout: The CIA, Drugs and the Press, by Cockburn and St. Clair (Verson).

    But I’m sure, Michal, that you know all this, since millions have known for many years.

    So, the information from the several direct personal sources to which Craig refers refers represents a continuation of a very long political business tradition indulged in systemically by agencies of the US state over a period of many decades. As someone pointed out, it is in line with a much older historical tradition going back at least to the British Empire and the Opium Wars of C19th.

    Assange, Manning, Murray – not towing the straight white line.

  61. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    10 Nov, 2012 - 4:00 pm

  62. The CIA-like most intelligence agencies-are up to their necks in drug and gun running.

    Where there are vast profits and geopolitical influence to be had pretty much any intelligence agency,in any country,is involved.

    To think otherwise is staggeringly naive.

    “stated mission aim”…ahahahaha!! Yes,of course,intelligence agencies are all truth,light and openess…ahahaha!

  63. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    10 Nov, 2012 - 4:04 pm

    anuel Noriega and George H.W. Bush……

    http://articles.latimes.com/1988-05-09/news/mn-1751_1_noriega

  64. Ben Franklin (head honcho CIA Office for Craig Murray Operations)

    10 Nov, 2012 - 4:04 pm

    Manuel….

  65. I hear that some top military brass in the USA are being replaced, don’t know if it has anything to do with other events.

  66. ” ‘…Panel (media & terrorism) followed by a 1v1 run with Lance Armstrong,’ she wrote…”
    Sodom and Gomorrah were nothing.

  67. “This descent into inhumanity and barbarism must end”

    “Read with: A baby boy starved to death in Westminster as his seriously ill and “socially isolated” mother struggled to obtain proper housing, benefits and support, a serious case review into his death has revealed”

    http://blacktrianglecampaign.org/2012/11/10/forced-evictions-racist-attacks-meet-the-new-landlord-security-company-g4s/

  68. Hmmmm…the Bureau of Investigative Journalism…some Big Pharma links…”not for profit”…backing from the Potter Foundation…

    David Potter founded Psion and helped set up Symbian…a member of the Council for Science and Technology reporting to the Cabinet. “David has also had extensive involvement with educational establishments as a Visiting Fellow of Nuffield College, Oxford; Honorary Fellow of Imperial College; Honorary Fellow and Governor of The London Business School. He has served on the South African President’s Committee on Communication and Information Technology. David is a trustee of the following organisations: chinadialogue; Trust for the Bureau of Investigative Journalism; and Philharmonia Orchestra.

    A cynic might find the notion of “MI6 front” entering his mind at this point.

    Oh and…”David was awarded the CBE, in 1997, for services to manufacturing industry and in 2001 he was elected a Fellow of the Royal Academy of Engineers. In June 2003, David was appointed a non-Executive Director to the Bank of England; in June 2006 he was appointed Chair of the Remuneration Committee and Deputy Chair of the Committee of Directors.

    Guess which two universities the 5 trustees of the Potter Foundation all went to? One of them is even a partner at Berwin Leighton Paisner, the Zionist law firm which handles Tony Blair’s private money. Mr Potter had no problems, it seems, accepting theMountbatten Medal either!

    Oh dear oh dear!

  69. Anonsoul

    Thanks!

  70. No writs on my doormat today. Nonetheless, a time for being careful!

    Three things:

    * it’s remarkable how they are no longer mentioning that Stephen Messham’s allegations against ‘the man whom he mistakenly thought was Lord McAlpine, having been misled by a policeman, by two toffs in the same family having the same surname, etc.’ included not only that the man committed brutal sexual abuse of children but also that the man threatened to have him killed if he told anyone

    * what about Ben Fellows’s allegations against Kenneth Clarke, which Mr Fellows has made directly and without TV presenters passing cards to politicians or anything like that? Kenneth Clarke is not a ‘former’ political figure – he is a senior member of David Cameron’s cabinet. Have the newspapers (or even that fanatically leftwing organisation the BBC) given him the chance to respond to Mr Fellows’s allegations? If so, what has he said? Has he denied them? It’s just as easy for people to find these allegations on the internet as it is to find allegations of paedophile abuse against any of several other political and judicial figures. Maybe Tom Watson might point that out?

    * how is David Cameron’s friend Derek Laud doing these days?
    Reply

  71. B Great minds etc… I was looking at the Potter outfit before but I didn’t get as far as Bliar’s solicitors. Thanks for the info and links. This is a nest of vipers which needs poking with a long stick.

    Have you seen that Rob Wilson MP Reading E is now warning Tom Watson off?
    https://htmlimg1.scribdassets.com/84i4dd0ybk1x8am3/images/1-1fc66d9935.jpg in spite of saying on 6 Nov:

    Rob Wilson (Reading East, Conservative)

    I, too, welcome my right hon. Friend’s swift action, in relation to both the independently led review of the Waterhouse inquiry and the involvement of the National Crime Agency, which I think is very important. Does she agree that all the evidence collected by “Newsnight”, by the Bureau of Investigative Journalism and by others should be placed in the hands of the police immediately? That is absolutely essential if justice is to be delivered not only to the victims, but to those who have been unfairly libelled on the internet in recent days.
    Hansard source (Citation: HC Deb, 6 November 2012, c741)

    Theresa May (Home Secretary; Maidenhead, Conservative)

    That is a very valid point. I would encourage all who have any evidence or any allegations of child abuse to put that evidence or those allegations before the police. It is for the police to investigate, and to take evidence where it leads.

    LOL

    Wilson was PPS to *unt when he was SofS DCMS.

  72. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/nov/10/newsnight-mcalpine-scoop-rumour?cat=media&type=article

    As the wine flowed at the Oxford Union, the stage was set for what would soon become a broadcasting disaster. The motion before the undergraduates had been “British politics is in the pocket of the media”, and in the exhilarated post-debate atmosphere, one dinner-jacketed journalistic insider who had come from London to speak could no longer contain his piece of political gossip.

    Iain Overton, head of the small non-profit Bureau of Investigative Journalism, said the following evening’s Newsnight was going to expose a top Tory as an abuser of teenage boys at a north Wales care home. According to one of those present, Michael Crick, former Newsnight journalist and now the Channel 4 News political editor, asked: “Do you mean McAlpine?” “Well, you said it,” Overton replied.

    Over the next 24 hours, the incendiary tale went round media London. Overton poured petrol on the fire he had lit (very foolishly, as he has admitted to colleagues) by tweeting the next day: “We’ve got a Newsnight out tonight about a very senior political figure who is a paedophile.”

  73. You mean this one? Tally Ho!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Laud

    Didn’t he do well.

  74. So let’s see. The BBC incompetently named the least likely genuine abuser from a list of circulating names. And the Bureau of Investigative Journalism boss Iain Overton (why do I want to put an “e” on the end of that) spills all in advance while pissed at the Oxford Union. Then “foolishly” tweets to the world to watch while ignoring warnings from former Newsnight editor Michael Crick.

    Right.

  75. Former Newsnight journalist Crick I meant.

  76. http://www.itv.com/news/update/2012-11-10/george-entwistle-resigns-from-bbc-after-newsnight-scandal/

    George Entwistle has resigned from his post as BBC Director General.

  77. http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2012/11/10/statement-from-trustees-of-the-bureau-of-investigative-journalism/

    The following statement has been made by the Trustees of the Bureau of Investigative Journalism:

    “The Bureau of Investigative Journalism was established to apply the highest standards of investigative and fact-based journalism in the public interest. During its first three years, the Bureau has won a number of major awards for its journalism and built a reputation for quality and the avoidance of sensationalism. The governing Trust of The Bureau does not endorse any material or output that fails to meet these standards.

    “The Bureau was named as a contributor to the broadcast of a BBC Newsnight programme on November 2 on child abuse in North Wales. The Trustees are appalled at what appears to be a breach of its standards. To the extent that the principles of The Bureau have been ignored by an involvement in this story, remedial action will be taken against those responsible. The Trustees must ensure that due process is applied and are establishing the key facts.”

    James Lee (Chairman) on behalf of The Trust.

  78. Whither the BBC now? What will Patten do? A ship without a captain. Send for Cap’n Onedin.

    Is there any trace of Murdoch’s hand in this saga or is that being fanciful?

  79. We see the word ‘acting’ frequently these days from Chief Constables to Director Generals of the BBC.

    Now acting BBC DG

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/managementstructure/biographies/davie_tim/

    I still think that Mark Thompson should have been hauled back for some questioning about the Savile case. He has gone off with the money, literally, to NY.

    The Savile cases and the other child abuse cases seem to have been almost forgotten in this media firestorm.

  80. Michal

    “Congratulations on using your real name. Your mother must be proud.”

    My mother would be proud but she died two years ago.

    How about you revealing your real name and maybe even telling us something about yourself?

    I have nothing to hide.

  81. @ MOD – Jon?

    Could someone look at:
    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/09/not-forgetting-the-al-hillis/comment-page-34/#comment-378877

    “6,881 Comments « Previous 1 … 33 34 35
    Fatal error: Allowed memory size of X bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 24 bytes) in /(path)/wp-includes/class-wp-walker.php on line 318”

  82. OT: Fascinating sneak preview of the next edition (64) of The Lobster. Clegg didn’t win the libDem leadership contest, Huhne did! If anyone doesn’t believe in a secret state running this country, and that the civil service and treasury have ideas far above their station, they better read this, I think it might open their eyes and highlight the urgency of showing this coalition the door tomorrow if not sooner.

    http://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/free/lobster64/lob64-running-britain.pdf

    The queen is (as good as) dead, long live the republic.

  83. The strange thing is that Stephen Messham has had a very long association with Newsnight, dating right back to the mysteriously pulped Clwyd enquiry into Bryn Estyn.

    I’ll try to find the source, but I think it is in connection with the allegations against Peter Howarth.

  84. Paxman speaks as his ticket for his first class berth at Newsnight looks as if it might be torn up. He is very cross.

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/news/a437243/jeremy-paxman-speaks-out-over-george-entwistles-bbc-resignation.html

    ‘Jeremy Paxman believes that the 2003 Hutton Inquiry, which strongly criticised the BBC for leaking quotations from Dr David Kelly, has increased the role of middle management at the expense of programme-making.

    “George Entwistle’s departure is a great shame. He has been brought low by cowards and incompetents,” he said.

    “The real problem here is the BBC’s decision, in the wake of the Hutton Inquiry, to play safe by appointing biddable people.”

    “They then compounded the problem by enforcing a series of cuts on programme budgets, while bloating the management.”

    “That is how you arrive at the current mess on Newsnight. I very much doubt the problem is unique to that programme.”

    Defending Entwistle’s integrity, Paxman added: “I had hoped that George might stay to sort this out. It is a great pity that a talented man has been sacrificed.”‘

    In a regal manner he says while time-servers prosper, he would not be issuing any further statements or doing any interviews.

    Pompous whatnot.

  85. It’s here:

    http://www.richardwebster.net/whatthebbcdidnottellus.html

    ‘ON MONDAY 25 January 1999, immediately after Newsnight, BBC2 broadcast a documentary, A Place of Safety, about sexual and physical abuse in children’s homes in North Wales ..

    The next witness to appear on the programme was Steven Messham. He said that on one occasion, when he had been in the sick-bay with blood pouring from his mouth, he had been buggered by Howarth as he lay in bed. He said that on another occasion he was asked to take a hamper of food to Howarth’s flat, where he was buggered by Howarth over the kitchen table.

    What the BBC did not tell us was that Messham claims he was sexually abused by no less than 49 different people. He also says he has been physically abused by 26 people. In 1994 the Crown Prosecution Service declined to bring his allegations against Howarth to court. None of his allegations has ever resulted in a conviction. In 1995 one of his most serious sexual allegations was rejected by a jury after barristers argued that it was a transparent fabrication. ‘

    So, on re-reading the text Messham wasn’t connected directly with Newsnight, although I don’t who the research and production teams for A Place of safety were. However he was a BBC source, and thought by the CPS to be unreliable.

    Maybe the CPS were right.

  86. Why the link to that Mochyn59? The author, who is now deceased I see, portrays the witnesses in the N Wales cases as unreliable fantasists. His work fitted the bill nicely for the perpetrators of the abuse.

  87. Sorry, that should be Mochyn69.

  88. Hi, Mary.

    Did you read mine at 05:18?

    I’m just saying maybe the CPS were right after all ..

  89. Stephen Messham has had long links with the media, dating back to 1999.

    Plenty of time for the media to have checked and re-checked his claims, and for he himself to have checked his facts.

    Surprising Newsnight saw fit to run them as reliable in its most recent offering. Or were they being overly clever in trying to discredit the abuse stories??

    What do you think?

  90. NR, thanks. Them lot ‘as broke it! I’ll get a quick fix in place, and try to fix properly during the week.

    Fixed! Easier than I thought.

  91. Mary, so Cameron likes Shelley. He should be reading a modern version of the ‘Mask of Anarchy’

    I met Murder on the way
    She wore a mask – Theracist May,
    watch the woman wield an axe,
    her prisons run by Supermax,
    and one by one, and two by two
    she threw them Muslim hearts to chew.

    Yesterday I met the brother of Talha Ahsan, a mild man called Hamja. Their mother is beside herself with grief at her son’s extradition to a Supermax prison where he is held in solitary confinement for 23 hours. Watch this video please.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX6miZwsHrw&feature

  92. English Knight

    11 Nov, 2012 - 10:10 am

    Craig

    Any inside info re Petraeus? Methinks its even bigger than the Minot saga as it comes after the recent defrocking of the 5th Fleet Commander

    http://rense.com/general78/kene.htm

  93. Suhayl Saadi 10 Nov, 2012 – 3:50 pm

    No it’s not a play on semantics. The USA used drug traffickers to smuggle about $800k worth mostly humanitarian goods into Nicaragua according to senate investigation. This is something quite different from CIA smuggling hundreds of kilograms of drugs with Chilean secret service. I note the article you linked is again based on some supposed testimonies which come back decades later to say “Oh yeah and CIA smuggled drugs with me all along, I just remembered now. I don’t have any proof but definitely CIA drug smuggling, damnit!” So tiresome. None of the extensive congressional or internal investigations have ever confirmed such a thing.

  94. PS: It is interesting the person on whom the story stands and alleged whistleblower said nothing when he was arrested for drug trafficking, instead keeping the story to himself until approached some decades later by a British journalist. It’s a make-believe.

  95. Entwistle’s resignation is firmly putting the focus away from the arrest that could be made to more timidity and slow go. To question Tow Watson’s zeal and shutting up the comments from welsh police due to the re-opening of the Wales inquiry, for fear of not ‘compromising’ the case, has further spread the all covering duvet over this sad story of the British establishment and Freemasonry criminal excesses.

    This is not just an opportunity to break and re shape the BBC, change it, away from a security service induced news management to a more open, viewer and listener directed service.

    As this massive scandal was known of by the security services and used for their own manipulative ways, however they saw fit, regardless of what dependencies are created by such ‘handling’, the inquiry when faced with these machinations to keep the status quo and cover up the crimes of important people, these publicly paid services should also be investigated as to their use of peoples sexual proclivities, foibles and crimes to suit their ends and not that of the public.

    investigate them and arrest them, put them in front of judges and ensure that freemason’s declare their membership and split loyalties/are barred from sitting and judging.

    Is paedophilia worse than murder? victims carrying the abuse with them all their life’s, not being able to speak out on these dastardly crimes, for fear of being shunned, prosecuted or killed.

    74 year old man arrested in Cambridgeshire this morning, no name given.

  96. Hello “Michal”, are you there?

  97. Ben Franklin 10 Nov, 2012 – 3:56 pm
    Ben Franklin 10 Nov, 2012 – 4:00 pm

    Again, neither of what you listed accuses CIA of smuggling drugs or CIA facilitating such efforts. It’s really stretching it a bit far to say: “Well this sites claims there was no drug trafficking, but apparently they read one book which claims there was. So case closed, CIA drug smugglers!” This is really incredibly tiresome and in my mind confirms that Craig Murray and the commenters are so hinged on this that they’re willing to overlook a lot of the inconvenient and ill-fitting factors, just to keep their narrative together, because we all KNOW that somehow CIA was doing drug smuggling.

    Suhayl Saadi
    10 Nov, 2012 – 3:50 pm

    And this is what I’m talking about: the article simply makes a lot of controversial statements without further detail as facts. Interestingly not even this one says CIA was directly involved in any drug smuggling and/or facilitating it in any way.

    Suhayl Saadi
    10 Nov, 2012 – 3:52 pm

    This one is a bit substantial, listing actual newspapers and offers something to go by, however I’d have to read it for myself to make a definitive opinion. I wouldn’t trust anyone to pre-chew for me something that I can read for myself. Thank you nevertheless. It is worth noting that the allegations made by the newspaper were investigated by CIA inspector general, an independent institution nominated by president but confirmed by senate, who found no evidence of wrongdoing. This might not sound terribly convincing, but I have to wonder why it is that all the meaty details of this alleged crime and horror story has never found its way to the hearings or courts the same way the rest of Iran-Contra story has. In my mind, this is what makes the whole affair more likely to be a fabrication.

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