Goosestep Foot Forward

by craig on February 28, 2014 3:07 pm in Uncategorized

“Security state” fruitcake Rupert Sutton of the ultra neo-con Henry Jackson Society has an article on the puzzlingly named and indescribably dull Zionist blog Left Foot Forward, in which he attacks Moazzam Begg.

Sutton displays precisely the mind-set of the security state, that led GCHQ to intercept the webcam chats of 1.4 million completely random British people, in the hope of finding Islamic terrorists. (They didn’t find any terrorists, but they did look at over 100,000 people masturbating).  Sutton states that Begg must be a terrorist because  “a convicted Groupe Islamique Armé (GIA) supporter identified as ‘D’ ” had used Begg’s bookshop.  And he calls me “conspiratorial”!  The poor man must see terrorists everywhere.  The fact that Moazzam Begg is now detained again, had been detained for years, has had everything belonging to him searched microscopically, and nothing has ever been found to justify a criminal charge of any kind, means nothing to witchfinder Sutton.  That anti-Muslim bigot is plainly convinced of Moazzam Begg’s guilt, though as he has not been charged, of what is unsure.

I strongly suspect Sutton supports the torture and extraordinary rendition which Begg was investigating in Syria.  If Sutton opposes torture by the state, all his pontificating on how to counter terrorism has never mentioned such opposition to torture.  Sutton manages not to mention what Begg has said he was doing in Syria at all in his article.

You may wonder why a blog called Left Foot Forward is giving space to an odious warmonger like Sutton.  All becomes clear when you realize that Left Foot Forward was founded by Will Straw, the son of Jack Straw, the enforcer of Britain’s torture policy, and the subject of Moazzam Begg’s researches into British complicity in torture.  Will Straw has succeeded to his father’s hereditary Labour candidacy for Blackburn.  The most recent article on Left Foot Forward attacks Venezuela’s socialist party and supports the CIA funded Venezuelan opposition.  Will is plainly a chip off the old block.

Release Moazzam Begg National Protest
Saturday 1 March: 12 Noon
Outside West Midlands Police Headquarters
Lloyd House, Colmore Circus Queensway
Birmingham B4 6NQ

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  1. Ba'al Zevul (Ça Plane Pour Moi)

    28 Feb, 2014 - 3:26 pm

  2. Jack Straw’s attitude to Human Rights was obvious when he made an ‘anti-drug’ speech in the Far East, where death penalty is common but
    acted slightly different when his own son was outed as ‘willing to supply cannabis’ a tabloid press ‘sting operation’.

  3. What a network. I thought I would never get to the end of the list.

    James Bloodworth LFF editor has been smearing Joe Emersberger who defends Venezuela in the same manner as Kamm. Joe Emersberger posts on Medialens.

  4. A hundred thousand people at a glimpse? I’ve been speculating about spunk helping solve the global food crisis, given (what sexologists are always quick to tell us is) its nutritional value.

    One teaspoon, say, per event.
    Three and a half billion men*.
    Say a tenth of them wankily active and one event per week (both likely underestimates)
    = 350-million teaspoons of spunk per week
    = 350,000,000 x 4 ml pw
    = 1.4-billion ml pw
    = 1.4-million litres or 308,000 gallons per week
    = 44,000 gallons per day
    = 1500 bbl (crude oil barrels) per day

    Worldwide production of spunk per annum 1.6-billion gallons (conservative)
    (Compare: USA liquid milk consumption per annum approx. 3.6 billion gallons)

    Zero production costs, only collection and preservation. Mo husbandry, fodder, antibiotics, gm-free, etc. Still looking for a down side.

  5. Thanks again for keeping this in the spotlight Craig. There is a modicum of good news regarding the communications interception at Menwith Hill but I suspect it has, as the article says, more to do with Angela Merkel’s phone having been tapped from there than all the protests against its existence. Up to 500 US jobs to go.

    See everyone tomorrow at the Moazzam Begg protest, for which I have excused myself and apologised to a prior important leafleting campaign for having to miss that in preference to the one outside West Midlands Police Headquarters.

  6. Didn’t that well known Scottish Labour ‘socialist’ give a speech to the Henry Jackson society?

  7. That well known ‘socialist’, that wants to keep Trident in Scotland, Jim Murphy.

  8. There would be no need for a war on terror if we had more peace with diplomacy.
    Nearly All situations can be secured peacefully with the right sort of unbastarsized democracy.

    Intelligent people like Moazzam Begg need to be allowed to voice their opinions.
    Such great personalities as Moazzam are a blessing to us and they should be given to our attention.

    Thanks for your recordings Richard on an earlier thread.

  9. [please re-post minus the expletives]

  10. Craig,

    How’s Your Foot?



  11. Rupert Sutton probably turned into a fruitcake because the walls of the student accommodation at the University of Kent are so thin.

    In fact so far as the security state is concerned, like the twin toilet suite in the hotel in Sochi, there is no cubiculation between mythical student extremists and mythical student neo-cons. Who gives a toss about their wank opinions?
    Fedup keep up the good work on the swearing. Don’t give in.

    You are either against the UK terrorist state or you are with them. I am against it because it sows dirty, divide and rule, emnity anywhere and everywhere it can, including with our neighbours in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, and extending to the deepest bottom of the ocean. But many Muslims are part of it, including many UK leaders of Islam, who daily campaign for UK politicians.

    But not Moazzem Begg. I am with him against the terrorist UK state. Nobody who has been betrayed by the abominable duplicity of UK government will ever forgive them until the full extent of their lies are in the open. That is probably why the independence of Scotland will happen.

  12. Much better, thanks, Tony Opmoc. Fedup, haven’t seen your comments.

  13. I see my last post got deleted. That is fair enough. I rarely post here, but when Craig had symptoms that initially reminded me of the pain of gout, I did say drink more water and the drugs you are taking – from 5 minutes google research can cause exactly the condition you are suffering.

    A bit fascist here for my liking.

    Why did you delete what I wrote Mr. Moderator..

    It was completely inoffensive

    Unless you are Gay?


  14. Thank You Craig.

    You are One of The Real Heroes here.


  15. The Ukrainian government (the one that’s so appalled at armed gangs taking over buildings!) has put a 15,000 hryvnia limit on cash withdrawals.

    That’s roughly 1000 euros. Makes you wonder where the order has come from.

    Not that the exchange rate is likely to stay at 15 for long.

    Meanwhile, the Turkish government is putting up a wafer-thin fence against the tornado of breakneck retail lending by the banks, which is sold locally as “buying by instalments”.

    BTW Russia will not give up Sevastopol or their naval, airforce and military presence in the Crimea. That has nothing to do with language or ethnicity or any other aspect of demography. Similarly, Britain will not give up Gibraltar. I doubt the Russian leadership wants war, but if they have to fight a war to keep Sevastopol – and stop the Black Sea from becoming a US lake – they will.

    I actually predicted an attack on Russia during the Olympics, but didn’t foresee the mercenaries in Kiev.

    That’s my tuppenceworth.

    @Craig – I’ve read your stuff on maritime treaties in the past, and I’d be interested to hear whether you think the Montreux Convention is likely to continue to have force in the Black Sea, or whether on the contrary it will just become a dead letter.

  16. My Ex – who, incidentally I haven’t actually seen since 1981, didn’t say Tony – You Can’t wear The Same T-Shirt Again…

    We split up in 1981 – and went our seperate ways…

    Different Lives…and Face book Connects Us…

    She Looks at My Kids…

    And I Look at Hers

    I Look at Her at Her Son’s 30th Birthday…and Her 28 Year Old Daughter is On The Other side..

    She is sat in The Middle Between Them

    She Now Looks 25 Years Old 0 The Youngest There – and I think This Must Be Faked..CIA job or something…

    So I send her The Photographs of My Wife and Our Children…

    and included one of myself…

    Some people, the kind of people I fall in love with see to have God inside them..and it doesn’t matter how old we get – the Love Just Radiates From Inside


  17. OT.

    “Jim Willie Bombshell: Saudi Royal Gold Ransacked in London to Prevent Default!”

  18. Resident Dissident

    28 Feb, 2014 - 11:03 pm

    “Will Straw has succeeded to his father’s hereditary Labour candidacy for Blackburn”

    Not true – he is the parliamentary candidate for Rossendale & Darwen – the neighbouring constituency which currently has a Tory MP.

  19. OT.

    “The inevitable debt default ahead for the US, UK and Japan makes the eurozone look cool”

  20. Perhaps I’m too naïve, but for all its faults – and it has many! – the justice system is still one of the best guarantees we have; or perhaps had, before double jeopardy was chucked out of the window and habeas corpus and jury trials came under threat.

    Put a bloke up in open court before the beak and a jury, tell him what he’s charged with and why, present evidence (if any – there doesn’t seem to be too much against Begg) give him a lawyer and let him defend himself. If you daren’t even take him to court, you haven’t got anything on him and he’s innocent. Put up or shut up, basically.

    What’s happening to Begg and people like him is trial by innuendo, hint and assertion. It’s a disgrace and it threatens us all.

  21. Resident Dissident

    28 Feb, 2014 - 11:23 pm

    Richard – I agree that’s why I prefer to say nothing on this matter at least until the evidence is presented in full in court and decided upon by a jury.

  22. OT ?.

    “Wake Up From Your Slumber”

  23. Craig,

    Thank you so much for this brave and important post.

    Its so good to have you back posting and-as always-right on the nail.

    Thank you again Craig.

  24. Black jelly

    1 Mar, 2014 - 5:38 am

    Us sassanachs are easily done by ssids or ssds, or even a simple for “Queen and Country” appeal. OK some of our Foxes may even be compromised by a tight sphincter or worse a hidden pinhole camera,hardware comes cheap nowadays. So we can lose the oil and the whisky and the salmon and the… But it would be a real shame to lose the Scots deeply grounded sense of truth (eg Craig Murray), God knows how much the truth is already being turned upside down by dershowitz,wolf blitzer and anderson cooper, I have booked a coach trip to Glasgow to register to vote NO there in September.

  25. 1 March 2014 Last updated at 01:07

    UK ex-Guantanamo detainee Moazzam Begg faces terror charge
    Moazzam Begg was arrested along with three other people on suspicion of Syria-related terrorism offences

    Former Guantanamo Bay detainee Moazzam Begg and a 44-year-old woman have been charged with terror offences related to Syria, West Midlands Police have said.

    The force said Mr Begg, 45, of Hall Green, Birmingham, is accused of providing terrorist training and funding terrorism overseas.

    There is absolutely no irony in the fact that this country’s Prime Minister and Foreign Secretary were proposing to enact real terror in Syria last August in the same way that they did in Libya in 2011.

  26. What do the Left Foot Forward Zionist supporters of Israel think of this new proposal in Amerika?

    Not AIPAC but Z-Pac.

    Move afoot to form ‘right-wing’ pro-Israel lobby in US

    03/01/2014 02:58

    The new organization would aim to dilute the influence of J Street, which is viewed as a lobby that is sympathetic with the left.

    AIPAC and J Street Photo

    Right-wing Jewish hawks in the United States are considering the formation of a new pro-Israel lobby that would directly compete with AIPAC and J Street.

    The new organization, which has been tentatively called Z-Pac, would aim to dilute the influence of J Street, which is viewed as a lobby that is sympathetic with the left. Its goal would be to serve as a genuine, right-wing alternative that would solicit influence and donations in order to counter the US administration’s attempts to pressure the Israeli government into accept Secretary of State John Kerry’s peace proposals.

  27. James Bloodworth again. A joint attack on the SNP and Russia Today. Two for the price of one!

    Why are the SNP so relaxed about dancing to the Kremlin’s tune?

    As they say on Medialens (they call him Bludnock!)’What a grubby little article’.

  28. Those who have met Moazzam Begg, heard him speak or read what he has written, will find no difficulty in understanding why he is a campaigner against torture and against complicity in torture by many organizations that are part of or have institutional links to the USA, UK and other states; nor in understanding why CAGE should be concerned at state violence and torture in Syria.

    However, it is – sadly – also not hard to understand how tempting it is for the media to equate being in Syria with having “links to terrorism” or “supporting terrorism”. The UK’s deliberately ambiguous anti-terrorism legislation makes it far too easy to frame disingenuous charges. In this case, I see their primary purpose as being to silence and discredit one of the most powerful voices against state-sponsored illegal violence. Those purposes will still be met to a great extent, even if the charges are later dropped or if Moazzem is judged to be not guilty of them.

    I hope Craig will continue to subject this case to close analysis; and that some mainstream journalists and their editors will waken up to the reality that if you acquiescein state abuses you will find you have no defenders when you and your rights and freedoms come under attack. Of all forms of censorship self-censorship is the most deadly.

  29. Iain Orr, I agree. We are moving towards a Nazi-type, Stasi-type police state. I knew something was going to happen but I hope the national rally outside Birmingham’s main police station will still be well-attended, despite Moazzam having been moved to Westminster. Making the announcement that he is to be charged on the day of the rally is not insignificant of the politics involved in this case – a bit like, on a much smaller scale, Tony Blair’s warning of a terror-threat on the eve of the biggest rally against his war in Iraq that London has ever seen.

    The only trouble is, bearing in mind the stitch-up of Julian Assange, the wrongful imprisonments of Babar Ahmed and Talha Ahsan, and other recent injustices, that when, if, a trial ever comes to court, that the judge and jury will be ‘bought’. What we used to know as justice no longer exists in this beloved country of mine. For the last decade it has been a country that believes in torture, extradition to torture and imprisonment without trial.

  30. Resident Dissident,

    I expect the evidence will be kept secret – you won’t see much in open court. Another legacy of the security state.

  31. Resident Dissident

    1 Mar, 2014 - 9:38 am

    But I doubt the evidence would be kept secret from the jury. In previous UK terrorist cases the evidence has usually been made available – can you point to cases where it wasn’t? Given the charges relate to visiting and financing training camps – I would have thought that at least some of the evidence would have to be made public to have any chance of securing a prosecution.

  32. CAGE’s press release about Moazzam Begg being charged:

    A good time to watch this again, from 2wks ago:

    Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange endorses CAGE report

  33. Isn’t visiting Pakistan considered ample evidence of terror training offences?

  34. David Cameron is financing training camps in Turkey and other places for The Queen’s Allied Intervention Dictator Army, Al Qaida.
    Why would Nosey Parker in MI5 want to muddy the waters by arresting Moazzam Begg?

    Does he think we the UK public are stupid enough to be afraid of a police force that is prepared to lie against senior Tory politicians?

    Does he think we the UK Muslims didn’t notice UK involvement in the wars of Afghanistan, Somalia, Libya, Yugoslavia, Pakistan, Kurdistan, Ukraine? Then up pops David Cameron when the dust has settled to get British companies to extract oil from the same countries.

    Did anyone read Mary’s link to the Leicester Socialists particularly the part of the discussion headed : Rich Rewards for Former Prime (War) Minister, Tony Blair. ?

    “Interestingly, the Financial Services Authority actually moved to take action against Hannam because he is said to have passed on insider information about Heritage Oil (in 2008) to Kurdish oil minister Ashti Hawrami – who is alleged to have made £13 million by trading shares in Heritage Oil as a result of their striking oil in Iraq. Mr Hawrami, is an old hand in the oil business having first worked for the British National Oil Company in the 1970s and he currently “owns a mansion in Henley-on-Thames – fewer than 30 miles from Mr Blair’s country home in Buckinghamshire.”

    It would be strange world if Tony Blair was not acquainted with his oily ‘neighbour.’ Indeed, Blair’s recently revealed secret ‘work’ as an adviser for the South Korean energy company, UI Energy Corporation, unsurprisingly led to him being accused of smoothing the way for UI investments in Kurdish- controlled Northern Iraq through talks with Mr. Hawrami. Of course, in the face of such continuing accusations Mr Blair’s spokesman said the former Prime Minister had ‘never heard’ of Mr Hawrami.

    Moving swiftly on to the broader issue of Kurdish oil contacts, Genel Energy is a key regional player, as they describe themselves as “the largest oil and gas company in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq” and are headed by the former ill-reputed CEO of BP and current Glencore board member, Tony Hayward.”

    Nice work if you can get it – launch a war which removes the only obstacle, Saddam Hussain, to the fulfilment of Winston Churchill’s plan to steal oil from Mosul, Kurdistan, Iraq and pocket the profits.
    Tony Blair the crack cocaine socialist.

    There are so many plums for David Cameron to choose from, but in the meantime he has to earn Zionie points by delivering Syria to Israel. Keep on pumping the ‘ Saddam -style 45 minute’ scares to the media about UK terrorists returning from Syria and he might get his hands on a joint Somalia and Southern Sudan oil contract nest year when we boot him out of office.

  35. It will be interesting to compare how the Moazzem Begg case progresses with that of these two doctors not so long ago:

  36. Andy

    Not any longer. During the Syrian War we and Pakistan Al Qaida are like four legs in one pair of tights. Might change later. Watch this space.

  37. “We are moving towards a Nazi-type, Stasi-type police state”


  38. I suppose the poor man has gone to the Belmarsh hellhole. Straight from there to the Old Bailey on March 14th. which holds 900 souls.
    Victoria Brittain writes of it:

    Within its perimeter is the PFI young offenders’ ISIS prison which holds 600+ under 25s.

  39. John Goss and Someone. Not the present tense. It is the past tense.

    ‘We have moved towards a Nazi-type, Stasi-type police state’

    I have been saying for a long time that our democracy is illusory.

  40. These are murky waters. Resident Dissident is right to remind us that conviction on terrorism charges will require evidence; and that charges could not have been brought without evidence. However, unless presented openly there is a high risk that ambiguous evidence will not be subject to adequate scrutiny. A simple example is that where and what constitutes “terrorist” training is no more straightforward than is “military” training. Think, for example, of the Sandhurst training courses for doctors, dentists and chaplains.

    Some of the comments on Craig’s original blog, such as John Goss’s, have widened the discussion to other aspects of the political and moral compromises and deceptions involved in “national security”. The contributions from Tony Blair, even when the hand of history was not nudging him away from sound bites, are often instructive. See, for example, the analysis in today’s Daily Telegraph article by Charles Moore. .

    You do not have to share his conservatism to see this as a useful reminder of how the means can so dangerously undermine laudable objectives. Too many measures whose public rationale is to “defend national security” actually serve to cause, rather than prevent, unjustified violence and unnecessary loss of fundamental rights and freedom – think not just of terrorist murders and the collateral damage of drones but also of torture and of slow-burning issues that undermine democratic values, such as the forced exile of the Chagossians.

  41. Good to hear from Tony_Opmoc – Off topic folks but definately CIA black funded:

    the American government – in the form of the US Agency for International Development (USAID) – played a major role in funding opposition groups prior to the revolution. Moreover, a large percentage of the rest of the funding to those same groups came from a US billionaire who has previously worked closely with US government agencies to further his own business interests. This was by no means a US-backed “coup,” but clear evidence shows that US investment was a force multiplier for many of the groups involved in overthrowing Yanukovych.

    But that’s not the shocking part.

    What’s shocking is the name of the billionaire who co-invested with the US government (or as Wheeler put it: the “dark deep force” acting on behalf of “Pax Americana”).

    Step out of the shadows…. Wheeler’s boss, Pierre Omidyar.

  42. “is illusory.”

    I think a better term would be

  43. Mark That’s a coincidence. I put that pando link up on the Why Should Ukraine Not Split thread! And of course it’s Omidyar who has funded Greenwald, Poitras etc on First Look/The Intercept. Hard to know what to believe except that dark forces are at work.

  44. BrianFujisan

    1 Mar, 2014 - 1:49 pm

    Glen Greenwald on moazzam

    Crucially, it appears that Begg was given explicit permission to take this trip to Syria by Britain’s MI5. In his last article, he described:

    [I]n October 2012, I was called by an MI5 officer who said they wanted to talk to me about my views on the situation in Syria…I agreed to speak to them and meet at a hotel in East London. Both MI5 and I had our lawyers present. At the end of the meeting I was assured by MI5 that my proposed return to Syria to continue my work would not be hindered, and it wasn’t.
    This raises the obvious question: if the British government had concerns about his involvement with militant groups in Syria, why did it specifically meet with him to green-light his trip there? Furthermore, if his arrest was related to his December 2012 trip, why would the government wait more than a year to arrest him for it?

    That’s all independent of the bizarre spectacle of charging someone with “terrorism” offenses for allegedly helping rebels which the US government itself is aiding and for whom intervention was advocated by the US president as recently as last year. Indeed, in 2012, the year Begg made his trip, the widespread view in the West of Syrian rebels was that they were noble freedom-fighters who deserved as much help as possible, not “terrorists” whom the law made it a crime to assist. In the same year another major visiting supporter to the opposition movement was John McCain – an indication of how much mainstream Western support the uprising enjoyed at the time.

    More from this piece @

  45. Some very interesting info about the (false flag ‘terrorism’ attributed to the) GIA here.

  46. Mark; Marcy has yet to post beyond the tweet. Greenwald has a lo-o-ng response. Shall we throw the baby out with the bathwater?

  47. Bert – that link doesn’t work for me?

  48. I see we now have a spambot from Thailand. How do spambots get past Captcha?

  49. “Demonstration Grayling DaySave Legal Aid Friday 7th March 10am Old Palace Yard SW1”

  50. Pepe Escobar’s take. The humour is rather jarring in view of the circumstances.

    Feb 28, ’14
    Carnival in Crimea
    By Pepe Escobar

  51. I feel somewhat suckered by Mr. Omidyar’s Ukrainian support for uprising, can he not do something for us? I mean what will he do when food banks fail and people rob allotments, will we be ready for a Ukrainian style purge of off shorers and foreign oligarchs?

    How GCHQ tries to catch engineers with new ideas…. for example fake linked in pages.

  52. From Mary’s link; not humor so much.

    “dancin’ your troubles away at carnival in Rio – or New Orleans, or Venice, or Trinidad and Tobago – your brain will have registered that NATO’s ultimate wet dream is to command a Western puppet Ukrainian government to kick the Russian navy out of its base in Sevastopol. The negotiated lease applies until 2042. Threats and rumors of reneging it have already emerged.”

    That’s the gravel for the concrete.

  53. Not long back from a meeting after the Moazzam Begg demonstration which had an encouraging turnout considering 1) it was arranged at such short notice and 2) the police apparently went round the Birmingham mosques yesterday discouraging people from protesting. It was a large attendance. But the protest and message was loud and clear. The next one will be much bigger because we have all pledged to take more people along.

    Briefly from what I made out the charge against him appears to relate to Moazzam having taken an electrical generator to an area of Syria that needs electricity. Before going he informed MI5 and MI6 of what he was doing. He has of course already amassed a lot of information of complicity of the secret services in rendition and torture and has never been afraid to pass this information on.

    It seems reasonable to assume that the UK secret services have sent their blue-gloved policemen in to find out what information is stored on his computer about them, and what torture was committed in the early days of the war on Islam and what continues to done in foreign countries by the UK and US secret services. Any criminal charges should be against the secret services and not against Moazzam.

    Got to put a face to one comment-maker on this blog.

  54. Well done John. I hope Moazzam knows of the support shown for him.

  55. Iain Orr

    Q & A. In the context of Northern Ireland what does ” Tonyish ” mean?

    Does it mean his ability to follow the money, i.e. predict that pleasing global capitalism would give him more future security than pleasing socialism?

    Or does it mean that pleasing the UK’s lying bastard secret state would give him more future security than pleasing the UK (including Northern Irish) electorate?

    Or does it mean that being seen to please Nationalist Terrorists would secure the admiration of the other Nationalist Terrorists, the Zionists and therefore a future with them.

    Or does it mean all of these answers, i.e. Tonyish simply means looking after number one?

  56. Funny how, in all the reports of Mr Begg’s arrest, the BBC don’t mention his more recent activities, i.e. torture and extraordinary rendition and the UK’s role in both. The various articles give a potted biography, but seem to miss this fact out entirely. We can’t have people thinking that his arrest might be politically motivated. Is that why this key information has been left out, so that people don’t make the link between his arrest and his investigations?

  57. I also went to the Moazzam Begg demonstration, and met with John.
    But after Brian’s statement that he went to Syria at the suggestion of MI5/6, I cannot help but suspect that the MI5/6 took that initiative in order to commence a Rendition=whitewash campaign. Assad’s involvement with torturing people for our country ended at about the same time, a year ago, as they approached Moazzam.

    “Hello Bashar, want the good news or the bad news?”
    “Good news please”
    ” Good news is that our Zio-partners in Russia are going to step up to the mark and give you complete air defences against foreign aerial intervention”
    “Good, what’s the bad news then?”
    ” Bad news is that we’ve been told to stop paying you to torture Muslims ”
    “That’s bad news”
    “That’s really terrible news for us as well. But you could try making up for it by dropping barrel bombs on the Syrians”
    “What’s barrel bombs?”
    ” We don’t know really but apparently there’s no international law against dropping them on your citizens.”
    ” OK guys, barrel bombs it is then.” Bye. Talk to you next time.”
    ” Bashar, we’re working on a cover-up for the torture-prisons. Tell you next time. Bye for now Bashar. Bye.”

  58. “I see we now have a spambot from Thailand. How do spambots get past Captcha?”

    They aren’t bots Mary, they are people in poor countries paid a pittance to post to as many forums and blogs as they can. I think they may get two or three dollars for posting to a thousand. They’re working hard to feed themselves the only way they can.

  59. Another hypocrite. Cameron.

    ‘Prime Minister David Cameron has said there can be “no excuse” for outside military intervention in Ukraine.’

    He had no misgivings in invading and attacking Libya and seeing the assassination of Gaddafi, nor in planning to do the same to Syria and Assad.

    PS Off topic. Have you noticed the early electioneering. Photo ops with Merkel in his flat at No 10
    and Queenie at Chequers

  60. “Q & A. In the context of Northern Ireland what does ” Tonyish ” mean?”

    Coming from Charles Moore, I suspect it just means playing fast and loose. Remember that Charles Moore and others went against much of the restructuring of NI institutions, which was about de-Unionising these as power centres for Unionism.

    These were necessary steps of course, but it is interesting the haste with which Tony turned UK policy on a sixpence and wrapped everything up rather sharpish. They had to turn around their propaganda too. Suddenly the IRA became noble freedom fighters who fought bravely and fairly. This was coming from UK military figures and spooks.

    It’s almost as if someone knew there was a new, even more “dangerous” enemy on the horizon.

  61. I got news from a friend in London who did not get to the magistrate’s court on time.

    “I was at Westminster Magistrates Court but arrived too late for the hearing. We stayed for another couple of hours until he left by van – where, we don’t know. Plenty of supporters there, including Victoria Brittain and solicitor Gareth Peirce. Another demo outside the Home Office tomorrow.”

    The Home Office demo tomorrow is at 1.30 p.m. according to this website.

  62. “On the Meaning of Journalistic Independence”

    “By Glenn Greenwald 1 Mar 2014,”

    “This morning, I see that some people are quite abuzz about a new Pando article”

  63. Fred The ads have always been referred to here as spambots. I wouldn’t know but irrelevant in the scheme of things as it exists currently.

  64. Putin wins approval to send Russian troops into Ukraine

    Britain requests emergency UN Security Council meeting
    •Klitschko calls for mobilisation to ‘save’ Ukraine
    •Gazprom may raise gas prices for Ukraine
    •Obama warns Moscow over Ukraine

    Last updated: March 1, 2014 7:34 pm

    Putin wins approval to send Russian troops into Ukraine

    By Kathrin Hille in Moscow, Roman Olearchyk in Kiev and Courtney Weaver in Simferopol

    Unidentified armed men in military uniform block a Ukrainian military base in Balaklava, Crimea, Ukraine, 01 March 2014. New elected Crimea’s Prime The armed men, described by Interior Minister Arsen Avakov as Russian naval forces, took control at 28 February, of the airports in Simferopol and near the port of Sevastapol where the Russian Black Sea Fleet has a base. Russia ratcheted up the tension in the Ukraine crisis on 01 March with its upper house of parliament approving the use of armed forces in the Crimean peninsula, which is part of Ukraine. Russian President Vladimir Putin asked the Federation Council to approve the use of armed forces in the Crimea, Interfax news agency reported, “until the normalization of the socio-political situation in that country.” Russian lawmakers had urged Putin to take measures to stabilize the situation in Crimea and protect the Russian-majority population. EPA/ANTON PEDKO©EPA

    Key developments

    – Obama on Friday warns of “costs” to Russian military intervention in Ukraine

    – Moscow gives Putin green light to send troops into Ukraine

    – Crimean leader moves autonomous region’s referendum forward to March 30 from May 25

    – Protests mount in a number of eastern Ukraine cities calling for unification with Russia

    – UN Security Council meets in New York

    The Russian parliament gave President Vladimir Putin clearance to send troops into neighbouring Ukraine on Saturday, raising the spectre of war on the European continent for the first time since the Russia-Georgia conflict of 2008.

    Responding to a specific request from Mr Putin, who invoked threats to Russian citizens and the Black Sea Fleet inside Ukraine, the upper house of parliament unanimously approved the deployment, although it was unclear whether Mr Putin would send Russian forces immediately.

    In the face of a rapidly escalating threat of Russian invasion, just hours after US President Barack Obama had warned Russia there would be “costs” to any military intervention, Britain requested an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council to be held a 2pm New York time, while EU foreign ministers will not meet until Monday.

    William Hague, UK foreign secretary, summoned the Russian ambassador, and Nato’s secretary-general Anders Fogh Rasmussen weighed in on Twitter saying there here was an “urgent need for de-escalation in Crimea.”

    But so far, international efforts to defuse the crisis have achieved nothing. As thousands of pro-EU protesters huddled on Kiev’s main square, the country’s national security and defence council met for consultations.

    Speaking by phone from the discussions, Hryhory Nemyria, a close aide to Ukrainian opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko, said: “The west’s reaction has been too little and too late allowing the situation to escalate to outright aggression. Diplomacy must not only intensify, but having heard President Obama last night warn that there will be a price for Russian military intervention, the time has come for that price to be elaborated,” he added.

    On this topic
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    The Russian president’s move came after Ukraine’s government and foreign observers said an invasion in Crimea, the majority Russian-populated peninsula in Southern Ukraine, was already under way. The interim Ukrainian government, which has the support of the country’s army, has yet to respond directly to Moscow’s decision, though it has repeatedly said it won’t be drawn into a broader conflict by these “provocations”.

    Mr Putin said in a statement: “Due to the extraordinary situation in Ukraine, which has threatened the lives of citizens of the Russian Federation, our compatriots, the personnel of the military contingent of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation located […] on the territory of Ukraine, […] I am requesting the Federation Council of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation to approve use of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on the territory of Ukraine to the normalisation of the political situation in this country.”

    “This action is a potentially grave threat to the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Ukraine. We condemn any act of aggression against Ukraine.
    – William Hague, UK foreign secretary

    Interfax quoted deputy Foreign Minister Grigory Karasin as saying: “The consent our president received does not mean that it will be exercised quickly.”

    Thousands of pro-Russian protesters gathered in eastern Ukraine’s largest cities including Kharkiv and Donetsk, calling for unification with Russia and describing Kiev’s current leadership as illegitimate. Russian media reported that Russian flags had been raised in three more Ukrainian towns.

    A local Russian government official claimed that people from several regions of Ukraine were fleeing to Russia because they feared the new government in Kiev.

    Although as a non-Nato country, Ukraine does not fall under the alliance’s common defence treaty, Kiev signed a “charter of a distinctive partnership” with Nato in 1997 that committed the alliance to supporting Ukrainian “sovereignty and independence.”

    “Russia must respect Ukraine’s sovereignty, territorial integrity and borders, including with regard to movement of Russian forces in Ukraine.”
    – Anders Fogh Rasmussen, Nato secretary-general

    while there were a few hundred pro-Russia demonstrators who began chanting “Russia! Russia!”, while carrying larger-than-life Russian flags above their heads, while parading down Sevastopol’s main streets, many residents continued going about their every day business and there was no sense of panic.

    The Ukrainian government, before Moscow gave the green light to send troops to Ukraine, protested to Russia over incursions by the government’s troops and said that a de-facto military invasion of the peninsula was under way.

    Arseniy Yatseniuk, Ukraine’s newly-appointed prime minister called upon Russia to “immediately pull back” its troops in Crimea and “not provoke”. Otherwise “responsibility for the stand-off will lie solely on the Russian side and personally on its leadership”.

    Earlier in the day, Sergey Aksyonov, the new Russia-friendly Crimean prime minister, whose government has been denounced by Mr Yatseniuk, confirmed that armed men guarding buildings and patrolling the streets were Russian soldiers.

    In the morning, the Russian foreign ministry had accused “prominent political circles in Kiev” of trying to violently seize control of the interior ministry in Crimea, a claim denied by local police and residents.

    Earlier, Mr Aksyonov had declared he was taking control of local security and police forces which were earlier subordinated to the central government.

    You can register for free on FT with limited access. 8 articles a month I think. The above is the only Ukraine related article on their front page.

  65. John Goss’s information reinforces my concerns about what lies behind the “evidence” of Moazzam’s supposed illegality. Guano’s question about the meaning of “Tonyish” is largely rhetorical. I would just add that I think it dangerous to regard Blair and others – Jack Straw, David Cameron, William Hague – as being solely motivated by self-interest.

    Cynics are also idealists [and vice-versa], like Guano, Craig, John Goss, Mary, Resident Dissident, me and others. Blair’s toxicity and that of his ilk is due far more to his misguided idealism – allied to his considerable and genuine ability to articulate his arguments – than to his and Cherie’s love of lucre and celebrity. Attributing base motivation to others is a principle cause of failure in both personal and political relationships. BioDiplomacy listens and watches, but judges by deeds not words.

  66. How is the exploitation of the poor irrelevant?

  67. Herbie, in the Charles Moore link Tonyish is how Blair is describing his own decisions in his memoirs. A cross between Tony and selfish, smugly used about his own callous megalomania.

  68. BrianFujisan

    2 Mar, 2014 - 12:27 am


    Well Done for getting along to the demonstration, and John Too

    i was telling friends about it… one of them alerted me to it being on the news ” that guy you were talking about is on ” Total Propaganda… And NOT ONE WORD about the Protest… i said to them 100% proof of what i’ve been telling you about MSM

  69. good question Tabitha, how do they indeed keep on suffering,how will the human psyche evolve faced with full frontal glogalisation and cultural excesses.

    Why, oh why can we not disconnect from the political and unite on the cultural level?
    I was the election agent to Bushra Irfan in Blackburn, the first ever Muslim woman candidate in town, and I can report to anyone that the electoral system is fraudulent to the extend that it is geared towards party political survival and the ar.. licking of the establihment.

    How come unpopular celebrities are dropped by the BBC whilst the worst dregs you can scrape out of a party political corner can act/do/ and say as they like? however unpopular they are.
    The BBC will love them and promote them, however unpopular or sordid,or fraudulent, or unrepresentative of their constituency, however much they kicked their voters.

    Party politics, the establishement, their life suckering schmarotzers/ are all presented as a big fat game to us.

    Worst of all, we are compliant, talk about what they want us to talk about and we suck eggs, continously.

    I have listened to a quiet and contented Moazzam Begg when he came to Blackburn for a charity event, and we were faced with Jack Straws intimidations and local Government harrassments, him in desperation calling in the troops from Glasgow, his emminence the most dodgy Mohammed Sarwar, trying to counter the press publicity, making out that Moazzam was an outsider, a terrorist and sucking up to Jacks vitals.

    He is not an outsider, buit an ordinary family man who would love to be living a normal but engaged life. I have not been In Birmingham, hope it went OK.

  70. Iain

    If you are correct about Blair’s motivation, why has that idealistic motivation kicked in and self-corrected the man? Why has he not detached himself from Israel and Zionism? Why has he not detached himself from banking de-regulation and Victorian corporate bullying?

    Are you commending him as a Middle-East envoy because he he has learnt how overlook bad motivation and therefore to engage very political Muslim and very political Zionist elements into war.
    He is a good warmonger? He is a good ignorer of the ordinary people? He is a good stoker of human destruction and misery?

    Bloody good chap on a par with Churchill. The Bulldog one-year-old baby savager every patriotic Englishman should keep in his bedroom?

    He knew perfectly well, as we did, that Iraq would self-destruct if the dictator was removed and Petraus and others could lay enough false-flag bombs to set off a sectarian war.

    And he also knew perfectly well, as we did not know, that Al Qaida whom he personally used in Yugoslavia and Afghanistan, wanted to fight that internecine war to purify Islam from Sufism, Shi’ism, polytheism, and general corruption, because they were unable to win their arguments by logic and good behaviour, except by war assisted by Western political and military force.

    Well, what a pair of bloody heroes. Thanks for Tony Blair and George Bush.

  71. Error. Why has it not kicked in?

  72. Guano, I don’t think Iain Orr is praising Blair so much as looking for diplomatic means of crossing impenetrable barriers and making judgments on action rather than rhetoric. I was amused, but not surprised, to read of Blair trying to convince the guy who tried to arrest him of his motives behind what we all consider to be war-crimes, adn Blair does not. I too think Blair has (had) an outstanding brain, was (is) very articulate. I also believe that he wasted his talents and caused misery worldwide. I no not believe that Blair and others are solely motivated by self-interests. They already have more wealth in financial terms than any individuals ought to possess and they are working for perpetuating an elite in which they believe. This is where Iain is coming from.

    However I don’t know whether biodiplomacy can work if somebody steals your island, like the US did with the Chagos islands to build yet another US base. And like they are doing with Jeju island. And like the prime minister of Haiti, Laurent Lamothe, with the aid of Qatari money is trying to do to the islanders of Ile a Vache.

    I realise this is going off topic but if Iain Orr thinks he can help the islanders of Ile a Vache, Dady Chery, I am sure, would like to hear from him.

  73. Blair never had an outstanding brain. When he was surrounded by the brilliant, hand-picked graduates of the UK lying bastard Crown, he had a perspective on political intrigue and dirty national-interest tricks which was well ahead of the game. But after they dumped him, as all politicians get dumped after they have been used to take the blame, he was nothing.

    Basically if you do not use power and influence to further the cause of good in this world, you have no friends when you lose them again. I am not being idealistic. I hate seeing those who are imbued with power for a short period of time spending that time donning affectations of arrogance instead of using that power to bring about their inner dreams.

    Using power to carpet-bomb Afghanistan, driving millions into refugee camps from which many have never returned, or to sink 20 metre holes into the city of Baghdad, destroying civil society for the benefit of Israel, were not what he aspired to. So why does he not try to continue to strive for his aspirations now he is free from those conniving bastards in No 10?
    If he ever had them.

  74. Oh, the blackmail..Yes, what goes around, comes around. You set up a spy-state, and you end up getting caught in the frame.

  75. Thanks for the update on Straw ‘per et fils’. Nothing surprises me about the dynastic enterprises of the (so-called) Labour Party. What amazes me is that anyone can see this elitist cabal as representatives of the “hard working” people of Britain.
    I notice that P. Hewitt is having her CV raked over at the moment and a whole heap of non-exec directorships and other high earning sinecures has been turned out for our delectation.

  76. Ba'al Zevul

    3 Mar, 2014 - 8:36 am

    Iain Orr: ‘Cynics are also idealists … Blair’s toxicity and that of his ilk is due far more to his misguided idealism – allied to his considerable and genuine ability to articulate his arguments – than to his and Cherie’s love of lucre and celebrity. Attributing base motivation to others is a principle cause of failure in both personal and political relationships. BioDiplomacy listens and watches, but judges by deeds not words.’

    Hmmm. I think Blair’s a psychopath. That’s judging by his deeds. As his words are generally emollient platitudes. we can safely ignore the sense of those completely, while vigorously resisting the temptation to construe them as having any meaning with which we can agree. (They can usually have any meaning we choose). Like any other utterly self-obsessed manipulator, he has plausible excuses for his actions – largely based in the perception that states which are trading are unlikely to be at war. It’s a perception which goes down well with the rich merchant class of which he would like to be a member. But it ignores any consideration of the converse: countries which are at war are most unlikely to start trading, and a slippery, obviously partisan, foreign ex-politician with form for starting wars himself is hardly likely to alter matters.

    Blair isn’t a cynic. He believes unquestioningly every word issuing from his own lips. If he didn’t, he couldn’t sell anyone anything. He’s a conman.

  77. In response to Guano and others, and to pick up on John Goss, I am no apologist for Tony Blair. I never voted for him and the legacy of his time in Government has been largely deplorable. That said, I give him and his ministers credit for some good legislation, on gender/ race issues and also on Freedom of Information, though he has since disowned the latter – and in office sought to weaken the impact of FoI.

    Domestically, there may be a few other areas (education, health) where he deserves some credit for good intentions; but for the most part the results have not matched the intentions, largely because of adopting practices which have allowed the destructive elements of the Thatcher years to become deeply rooted, especially the application to public service and policy areas of inappropriate and misunderstood models from the private sector.

    On foreign policy the legacy has been dire, partly because of Blair’s missionary zeal for liberal intervention (wrong even in cases which are often mistakenly thought to have been successful, like Sierra Leone); and continuing reliance on the cynical doctrine that “my enemy’s enemy is my friend”. It would have taken real courage to tell George W. that 9/11 provided NO justification for a war on Iraq fuelled primarily by the psychological need of a reformed frat-boy to show he could achieve what his father had failed to (and do a good turn for the US oil industry).

    I don’t see the need as being, as John Goss suggests, to look for “diplomatic means of crossing impenetrable barriers”; more, that effective diplomacy means needing to understand the conscious motivation of both enemies and friends when they see the world differently. Yes, people are hypocritical; but the way to expose hypocrisy is to show up the inconsistency between the claimed motivation and the actual results of action or inaction. That is precisely what those of us campaigning for justice for the Chagossians have been doing for years … and perhaps making some progress. Please support the Chagossians by joining the demonstration on 31 March at the Royal Courts of Justice from 10.00am, when an appeal will be heard against the Tribunal decision last year that David Miliband’s declaration of a Chagos Marine Protected Area on 1 April 2010 was lawful. This issue is complex and those who want to follow it closely should look at
    [NB the date will need to be checked closer to the time on the Royal Courts of Justice Case List]

  78. Aidworker1.

    Sorry, the correct link for ‘Some very interesting info about the (false flag ‘terrorism’ attributed to the) GIA’ is here.

    Read the 5 pages of that thread & see how the case in the UK courts against the three Algerians Sofiane Kebilene, Sofiane Souidi & Farid Boukemiche collapsed after an MI5 informant refused to appear in court after evidence which senior ministers tried to suppress revealed that Algerian government forces were involved in atrocities against innocent civilians.

    The Algerian secret service (the DRS) systematically infiltrated groups such as the GIA and from 1992 onwards launching fake guerrilla groups, including death squads disguised as Islamists. In 1994, the DRS managed to place someone it controlled (Jamel Zitouni), at the head of the GIA.

  79. & a coupla things re Jack Straw:

    Jack Straw, whose ‘Procedural Farce‘ in the House of Commons on 9th November 2009 forced through the Coroners and Justice Bill & paved the way for the use of secret inquests for the coronial system…

    Jack Straw he who confirmed the existence of the UK “Secret State in League with Dark Forces in the United States”

  80. Thanks for that clarification Iain. Thanks also for information about the Chagossian demonstration on the 31st.

    On the subject of dispossessed islanders did you get time to look at the link to islanders of Ile a Vache.

    If there is any way you think they may helped I should like to hear of it.

  81. One of the three people arrested at the same time as Moazzam Begg, Gerrie Taharie, will appear in court today charged with I think the Midlands News reader said “activities in Syria”. The word terrorism was not mentioned.

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