Israeli Abuse of Palestinian Children

by craig on June 10, 2014 7:08 pm in Uncategorized

This is a heartrending documentary from Australia’s national broadcaster, ABC. The terrible fate of the Palestinians at the hands of a world which has accepted the ludicrous claim to a religious Israeli right to their land is incomprehensible in a rational world. The brutality of Israeli soldiers, motivated by views of racial and religious superiority, towards children is sickening.

But it is also deeply sad that it is now impossible that the BBC would ever make a documentary like this, or indeed that anybody in the BBC would ever dare to consider doing it. It must be twenty years since I saw anything remotely as honest on British mainstream television. I am not sure if I will ever live to do so again.

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  1. That is why when we must never allow Muslims to act arrogantly in our schools and in our society, cultivating ancient hatreds and religious-related racism because of the actions of people who have died decades or hundreds of years ago in more ignorant times than these.

    I remember honesty in both TV and newspaper articles more than 20 years ago. When the UK government admits that it paid Irish terrorists to foment the troubles you will see the BBC unlocking honesty in its reporting of foreign affairs. We have to tidy up own house before we have the honesty to talk about others.

  2. Trang whoever you are – disgusting [Mod: Post this refers to now deleted as spam]

  3. Meanwhile, instead of being a piriah, Israel gets unique EU privileges…

  4. Craig, thank you for bringing this to public attention. You are right, very little criticism of Apartheid Israel gets into the mainstream media, the BBC seems like a toothless mongrel.
    Judging by the tone of the comments you seem to have upset some people.

  5. More Pal-Arab lies & propaganda. Sucked up by a non-think lib.. Sad.

  6. Craig

    Yet again you are stuck in some lala land where not so long ago things were far better, leading to the conclusion that we can, with a tinker, get back to some place that never actually existed.

    The BBC has always been state propaganda. 20 years ago they made propaganda. Now they make propaganda. 20 years ago they also showed dissident documentaries. Now they show dissident documentaries. The propaganda is in the weight of establishment narrative vs dissident narrative. News at 6 will be consistently pro Israel and BBC4 will occasionally show a pro-Palestinian documentary late at night.

    Your analysis leads you to believe that the BBC is merely broken at the moment and can again. So you are not revolutionary.

    Obviously my point is analogous to the nation state.

    [comment lacking anger and sarcasm courtesy of ANode]

  7. TV and most print news investigations are now constructed along narrower lines of permitted inquiry, Phil. They are essentially appraisals of managerial competence. Once upon a time, you DID get documentaries and the like which actually exposed how state power works. The BBC has always been an arm of the state, but the state DID allow a more incisive level of commentary. Journalists are trained (and I mean that in the sense of training a dog) to stick to human interest – that’s what gets them prizes now.

  8. The other day, Habbakuk ended his usual dismissal of some valid point with “Against fascism, racism and sexism”.

    You mean you let women kill Palestinian civilians, Mr H? How noble of you. Maybe that’s what MC Drone King means when he rhapsodises about human rights.

    MLK must be spinning in his grave. The chief executive of War Inc. is black. What a victory for peace, love and understanding.

  9. Mike

    I was saying the idea that the BBC once showed dissident docs and no longer does is false and leads to a misguided reformist mindset.

    Saying that there was once a marginally less propagandist BBC does not diminish my point.

  10. Phil, I’m not sure the BBC can be reformed, but the point I was making concerned narrowing the parameters of what qualifies as dissent. That’s always a very dangerous process, even within the confines of the corporate media.

  11. The BBC is practically run by Zionist fanatics – many of whom are Jewish – so it’s hardly surprising the biased stance the organization takes over the Palestinian/Israel issue.

  12. Link to official website for documentary


    The Israeli army is both respected and feared as a fighting force. But now the country’s military is facing a backlash at home and abroad for its treatment of children in the West Bank, occupied territory.

    Coming up, a joint investigation by Four Corners and The Australian newspaper reveals evidence that shows the army is targeting Palestinian boys for arrest and detention. Reporter John Lyons travels to the West Bank to hear the story of children who claim they have been taken into custody, ruthlessly questioned and then allegedly forced to sign confessions before being taken to court for sentencing.

  13. Naturally enough there’s been criticism of Four Corners for taking the children’s stories at face value.

    It’s unlikely such a programme would appear on the BBC or indeed any British TV channel not because of bias but because coverage of current affairs generally has become almost non-existant. The only strand left on the BBC is Panorama and whilst that continues to do some good work it’s a shadow of it’s former self; a truncated series of 30 minute programmes which I doubt has the budget to film in the middle east even if it wanted to.

    C4’s Despatches series is no better and even the last series of Unreported World wasn’t as good as previous ones. As for ITV, C5 and the rest, forget it.

  14. Worth noting that Abbott’s gang have it in for the ABC, and job cuts are on the way. Doubtless it’s doco’s like this that cause their ire. It’s the usual ‘left wing’ bias trope, which is just so wrong-headed and dull. Left Wing = Something We Don’t Like.

    Politics in Oz is pretty much the same as everywhere else, suspiciously enough. Ignorant mediocrities spouting glib soundbites and protecting the interests of the 1%. Any deviation from the script is punished accordingly, as doubtless we’ll see when Turnbull loses his job in the reshuffle. All very depressing.

  15. Donk:
    “More Pal-Arab lies & propaganda. Sucked up by a non-think lib.. Sad.”

    I’m afraid you’re in for a lot more pain to come when the Apartheid system collapses. I am told that many Germans still refer to themselves as Europeans because of the shame of their Nationalist history.

    The Israeli officer in charge of the progrom appeared to have a London accent. He seemed extremely relaxed in his current occupation, like he believed in the respect of the community for sacrificing the safety of London for a tough job – someone has to do it – enforcing the Apartheid Law on innocent children.

    And the whistleblower: when you are out there, it’s not a matter of adults or kids, it’s they are the enemy. All Israeli citizens male and female, have to live that dilemma between humanity and nationality on a daily basis.

    Why is Mr Gove stirring up racial/religious confrontation here in the UK while simultaneously ordering water cannon from Germany? Can it be that the Thatcher pup, Cameron, needs a patriotic Falklands victory over “un-British activity” in Birmingham in order to win the looming General Election?

    The people who have demanded Islamic values in schools are the same people who are paid to implement Prevent for the government. Same as the people who have now taken over the Iraqi city of Mosul, are fulfilling the US promise of a united Kurdistan, and Islamic state in Eastern Syria.

    We humans have got to finally understand that every trouble in the world is created by politicians in order to give them an excuse for intervention, which in turn allows them to control the affairs of other nations, from whom in turn they can steal resources.

    Our politicians are not toothless onlookers of Israeli violence against children as Craig suggests. They acquired Israel, they fund Israel by allowing the bankster City of London on our soil. They are responsible for the violence on this video as if they had done it with their own hands.

  16. Thanks Craig. I had actually seen the video before. Quite shocking and good on ABC for making it. The words of the female settler still resonate. Something about God having promised them their land.

    The BBC should be dismantled as I have said before. Someone was suggesting turning it into a subscription service which would be costly (£300m?) as TV sets would need modifying. That would see the end of it and its propaganda output.

    ABC does harbour the likes of Jon Faine. See what he said verbatim about the Israel hit on USS Liberty in a interview with Malcolm Fraser.

    There are also videos that reveal the extent of Faine’s support for the Jewish lobby in Australia.

    Jake Lynch of Sydney Univeraity is having a hard time of it from the Australian Zionists.

    Israeli boycott case: Sydney academic’s lawyers say claims are pumped up
    University director Jake Lynch is accused by legal centre Shurat HaDin of unlawful discrimination

    Israeli boycott case: court strikes out part of racial discrimination lawsuit
    Sydney academic Jake Lynch says judge’s decision a ‘blow’ to legal centre Shurat HaDin’s ‘aim of outlawing BDS in Australia’

  17. Abbott went on to Canada after the D-Day events. Will Harper enrol him into the Great Britain Colonial Prime Ministers Friends of Israel Club?

    He already seems to be in it.

    Abbott then went on to Washington.

    I think he is enjoying the attention he is receiving. An ambitious type.

  18. Does anyone remember that excellent series on ITV, This Week, when television was broadcast terrestrially? That meant we all watched the same programmes and could discuss them with workmates and colleagues the next day. We were therefore probably more cohesive politically.

    ‘This Week was a weekly current affairs series first produced for ITV in January 1956 by Associated-Rediffusion (later Thames Television), running until 1978, when it was replaced by TV Eye. In 1986, the earlier name was revived and This Week continued until Thames lost its franchise at the end of 1992.

    However, its most influential episode was an expose on the National Front in 1974, which led to the party’s members firing their Chairman John Tyndall and National Activities Organiser Martin Webster two weeks later as a result of the revelations on the show from former NF Chairman John O’Brien of their neo-Nazi paramilitary pasts and continued links.

    The most controversial edition was “Death on the Rock”, a 1988 documentary which questioned the official account of the Gibraltar shootings. It is commonly believed this programme was responsible for Thames losing their broadcast franchise.

    During its run, the series’ presenters included Ludovic Kennedy, James Cameron, Jonathan Dimbleby, Robert Kee, Dan Farson, Jeremy Thorpe (who became leader of the Liberal Party), Kenneth Harris, Desmond Wilcox, Llew Gardner, Bryan Magee, Peter Taylor (noted for his coverage of Northern Ireland), Denis Tuohy, John Morgan, Peter Williams, Yvonne Roberts and John Edwards. The programme used the Intermezzo from Sibelius’s Karelia Suite as a signature tune.’

    I loved that exciting music when it built to its crescendo.

    Nothing like it on now. It’s all soaps, slebs and dancing. The BBC’s Newsnight is a joke. They are paying Ms Kunnesberg £200k a year following Paxman’s reported £1m so there’s not much left in the budget and there has been no permanent editor since the Savile affair until recently, when Ian Katz, ex deputy editor Guardian, was appointed. The media is incestuous and a closed shop.

  19. Rothermere and Murdoch are slogging it out in Oz. Daily Mail Australia is a new arrival.

  20. Ba'al Zevul (Suffer -the little children!)

    11 Jun, 2014 - 8:31 am

    Naturally enough there’s been criticism of Four Corners for taking the children’s stories at face value.

    Of course there has. Well-organised criticism, too. OTOH, when smirking Mark Regev pops up on our media to assure us that all is well with the humanitarian and compassionate IDF which is just conducting routine target practice on Gaza, this is rightly accepted at face value by everyone.

    Nor is it just Four Corners. Read these if you need to feel better about your G-d – given Jewish identity…

    (detailed, with affidavits)

    I could go on.


  21. “On 26 May 2014, the Istanbul Criminal Court issued arrest warrants for four former Israel military officials who ordered the 2010 deadly commando raid.

    They are:
    Israel’s former Military Chief of Staff, Gabi Ashkenazi,
    former Navy Chief, Eliezer Marom,
    former Military Intelligence Chief, Amos Yadlin,
    former Naval Intelligence Chief, Avishai Levy.

    These arrest warrants are historic – the first time a criminal court has sought to hold Israeli officials accountable for their criminal acts against civilians.”–by-Greta-Berlin-Israel-Attacks-Gaza_Israel-Killing-With-U-S-Weapons_Israel-Lobby_Israel-Samson-Option-140610-748.html

    Greta Berlin, Co-Founder, the Free Gaza movement
    Editor, Freedom Sailors


    Do I think that they will get to court? No.

  22. Nevermind their output, the hacks working for the Beeb are mostly happy at work.

    ‘Last month, Press Gazette delved through employee reviews website to see what staff make of working at the BBC. The answer, in a nutshell, was that a lot of people enjoy working there (it scored an average 3.4 stars out of five from employees), but that over-management and bureacracy are common bugbears.

    National newspaper publishers generally scored a lower satisfaction rating than the BBC, allbeit with fewer reviews to go on.’

    There is a link within the quote above to:

    A poorly managed Orwellian holiday camp? Employer reviews website provides insight into life at the BBC

  23. James O'Neill

    11 Jun, 2014 - 9:00 am

    Craig, while the ABC is to be applauded for this documentary, it has to be set against the announcement last week by the Attorney General and the Foreign Minister that Australia will no longer refers to Palestine land seized by the Israelis over the past half century or more a “occupied territory” least it be seen as “prejudging” the situation.

    Sadly, that reflects the true colours of our neanderthal government that almost on a daily basis is setting new low levels in public policy.

  24. Ba'al Zevul (Suffer -the little children!)

    11 Jun, 2014 - 9:14 am

    It’s territory. It was occupied. There are witnesses. What’s to prejudge?

    Better get used to calling it Judea and Samaria – I don’t suppose the UK will be far behind.


  25. Thanks for that James O’Neill. Good to hear your view.

    There seems to be some confusion in the minds of the Australian government. From the Times of Israel link I gave earlier.

    ‘However, there is more to Australia’s new approach to the Israeli-Palestinian issue: A similar policy is in place regarding all other unresolved core issues of the conflict, meaning that Canberra does not take any position on them, unlike almost any other government in the world.

    In practice, what follows is that Australia will not make any on-record statements on future borders or on the Palestinians’ demand for a “right of return.” Most noteworthy is that Canberra, uniquely, does not have any position on the legality or illegality of Jewish settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, in contrast to the legal position of the United Nations, the European Union and almost any other government in the world, including those of Canada and the United States.

    “I would like to see which international law has declared them illegal,” Bishop told The Times of Israel in January, drawing fierce criticism from senior Palestinian officials, who aired their frustration at her position in several harshly worded opinion pieces in the Australian press.

    In May, Australia’s ambassador to Israel, Dave Sharma, met Housing Minister Uri Ariel in the latter’s East Jerusalem office. Most envoys avoid meeting Israeli officials anywhere beyond the Green Line lest it be seen as tacit approval of Israeli claims to the territory. Furious about Sharma’s move, Palestinian chief peace negotiator Saeb Erekat wrote an angry letter to Bishop, which was leaked to Haaretz on the same day it was sent.

    “It should be noted that diplomatic recognition of the situation created by the attempted annexation of our capital is a flagrant violation of international law,” Erekat wrote to the Australian foreign minister. “I should also take a moment to kindly remind you that Australia is under a clear obligation to respect and ensure respect for the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Person in Time of War and that a State which knowingly assists another State in the commission of an internationally wrongful act bears responsibility for the violation.”’

    Yet they send funds to the Palestinians.

    ‘Australia is one of the top 10 donors to the Palestinians. In 2013, the government gave about $50 million in aid to the PA, much of it unbound, which means the Palestinians can spend the funds however they see fit. Despite the current diplomatic row, and amid cuts to development aid to other countries, Canberra does not currently plan to reduce its contributions to the PA.’

    Dave Sharma and his cohort are out of line.

  26. Ba'al Zevul (Suffer -the little children!)

    11 Jun, 2014 - 12:31 pm

  27. Ba'al Zevul (Suffer -the little children!)

    11 Jun, 2014 - 12:48 pm

    Just a tiny ray of hope here:

    In an interview with the JC, the 74-year-old said it is the “destiny” of Israelis and Palestinians to live together side by side, “unfortunately this is not understood by many Jews and Palestinians”.

    Even better, Netanyahu did his level best to prevent Rivlin’s election.

    However (ibid) Rivin’s opinion that Reform Judaism is ‘idolatry’ suggests that he is with those who regard even the utterance of Christ’s name as idolatry – Reform Jews being of the contrary opinion. Hardly a model of tolerance, perhaps.

  28. Ba'al Zevul (Suffer -the little children!)

    11 Jun, 2014 - 1:10 pm

    Big up the Ceausescu of Connaught Square here:–its-just-a-new-kind-of-extreme-counselling-9494939.html

    Given the Chinese government’s record, the most surprising thing is that Tony Blair hasn’t been revealed as its advisor. We’ll know it’s happened when the President says “Look, I know some people disagree with the shooting, but it’s important now to draw a line under the issue and move on.”

    Mr. Blair is currently in Beijing.

  29. How much would his annual expenditure for hiring the Jetstream be? I suppose it goes into the Windrush books as an allowable expense in addition to the bills from the luxury hotels he uses. Then again he might get it all paid up front by his those sponsoring him. Can you imagine that people pay to listen to him?


    btw Rivlin was Sharon’s Minister of Communications so I can’t see any improvements for the Palestinians coming from his direction.

  30. How pathetic that Australian government Israeli poodle, Tony Abbott, has refused to recognize East Jerusalem as an Occupied City. Even Israel’s staunch allies like the US, EU, UK, etc. have not accepted East Jerusalem being part of Israel.

  31. O/T Palestine but on topic ref ABC which comes up in this piece from the Medialens editors.

    The Great White ‘Nope’

  32. Why did I think it was a Jetstream. It is a Bombardier Global Express. £7,000 per hour. Wow!

    Owned by Aracvo Ltd/International Jet Club Ltd.
    Same directors for both, Callan, Martin and Dryden

  33. JK Rowling is another person who would want to leave Scotland if it gets Independence, she is paying 1 million up front to her moving company better together. Little does she know that moving on is not their strongest point.

    Why would the Conservative not want to give the vote to 16 year olds? are they too clever and clued up about our party oligarchs? promoting psychopath, selfserving and the manipulation of the electoral system.

    Democracy a British value? More like fiddling the figures.

  34. doug scorgie

    11 Jun, 2014 - 5:17 pm

    Ba’al Zevul (Suffer -the little children!)
    11 Jun, 2014 – 12:48 pm

    “Just a tiny ray of hope here:”

    “In an interview with the JC, the 74-year-old said it is the “destiny” of Israelis and Palestinians to live together side by side, “unfortunately this is not understood by many Jews and Palestinians”.

    Not a “ray of hope” Ba’al, just the same old…same old.

    In fact Reuven Rivlin is more right-wing than Netanyahu:

    “The 74-year-old opposes the creation of a Palestinian state, putting him at odds with the platform adopted by Mr Netanyahu.”

    “He is also a supporter of Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank, another central issue in the dispute between Israel and the Palestinians.”

  35. G4S hires pro-Israel professor to whitewash war crimes

    A careful and devastating analysis by Amena Saleem of Palestine Solidarity Campaign. What is described is really quite astounding…and yet standard behaviour when it comes to defending Israel and allied corporate interests:

    Posted on Medialens by the Editors. The professor concerned is at Kings College, by name one Guglielmo Verdirame, a barrister at 20 Essex Street Chamnbers where he is listed as Junior Counsel. Listed in the members is Sir Daniel Bethlehem, late legal adviser to the Foreign Office. No more need be said.


  36. Guglielmo Verdirame Goebbels by the sound of him.

  37. I’ve never got what the insane hype is about JK Rowling’s Harry Potter books, it seems large number of adults favourite book is derivative escapist children’s fiction, which says much about their language skills, reading comprehension and intelligence. Stuck forever in pre-adolescence, in fantasy worlds of magical beliefs and silly superstitions, this Rowling seems to have stolen the target audience once suckers for religions to capture, the lost cause people like those scary hide-bound GnoFolk, living and breathing deeply of the toxic propaganda fog, knowing carriers of its hope-destroying disorder.

    Is the real world too difficult for them to deal with, that they live in a world of fairies, pixies and wizards? This burgeoning generation of mental degenerates deserves serious study as a matter of urgency, amongst them will be found the next Thatcher, George Bush or Tony Blair. At one time in human evolution most people I would guess quickly outgrew the childish pulp fiction of their embryonic days of Farley’s Rusks, dolls and cuddly toys, and with it, Enid Blyton’s Famous Five, Secret Seven and all of that fodder, the genre of which Rowling is but the latest to artlessly revamp, no longer now just for children but for the hard of thinking of all generations.

  38. This looks like a disturbing report – I’ve only seen the transcript so far. I can’t believe that anyone who tortures children is acting legally, and the Israeli government will have to punish the people responsible.

  39. O/T So what was it all about? A very expensive and futile exercise.

    Breaking news No evidence after Madeleine searches
    No evidence relating to missing Madeleine McCann identified after searches in Portugal, say British police

  40. Craig,

    Thank you for posting this – it’s left me angry and tearful. I hadn’t seen this.

    Keep up the good work – both you and Mary!

  41. Israeli drones killing Gaza kids – report from UK-based “Corporate Watch”.

  42. All such passionate people and wonderful people, with all the world to behold options seems so limited .
    Aren’t we at a peak of knowledge that we can’t create something more for these people.

    Limited options. Where are the big thinkers!

  43. Hi Craig,
    As an Ecumenical Accompanier, recently returned from 3 months service in the West Bank, I can tell you that my colleagues and I witnessed this harassment of children by the Israeli military on a routine basis, every day in Palestinian villages, bedouin communities and refugee camps across the West Bank. One of our regular duties was the Unicef funded Access to Education ‘school run’, to provide protective presence for Palestinian kids going to school. Each morning at school time, the IDF sends fully armed soldiers with teargas cannons and stun grenades into villages, targeting the school entrances to intimidate, taunt and harass the kids and teachers. This frequently escalated into teargassing, whole communities being terrorised and kids being detained and taken away. Another tactic is that Palestinian municipal authorities in these villages are denied permission to construct school crossings or road safety warning signs or do anything to improve safety for kids near schools. At one of our regular schools, the Israelis issued a demolition order on a safety barrier that the school had erected at its entrance after a 7 year old girl was killed by an Israeli settler car. When we asked soldiers why they came to the villages, they always replied that it was because the kids threw stones. This was absurd. This harassment of children and other human rights violations we observed, like the cutting of hundreds of olive trees, were clearly strategic military actions targeting Palestinian villages in locations where the Israelis want to expand settlements. The military were clearly working in concert with the Israeli Settlers. And of course, a number of Israeli government officials, such as Avigdor Lieberman, have homes in West Bank settlements.

    In January 2014, in his unequivocal final report as the UN special Rapporteur on human rights in the Palestinian territories, Richard Falk sets out Israel’s numerous violations of International Humanitarian Law and human rights law and its non-cooperation with the UN. He describes Israel’s oppressive occupation as ‘designed to encourage residents to leave Palestine, which is consistent with the apparent annexationist, colonialist and ethnic-cleansing goals of Israel, especially in relation to the West Bank including East jerusalem.’ He goes on to say, ‘It is past time for the United Nations to take action that seeks to protect the rights of the Palestinian people…’

  44. Greennumberplate

    Thank you for that

    are you part of Breaking the silence ?

  45. so much stuff, who can oncentrate on what?
    did you know that israel tried to assassinate an us ambassador in lebanon
    (was it in 1982?)? not widely reported at the time it seems. this diplomat now lives in france, published a book a few years ago about this.
    andreas w. mytze (holocaustgeschädigt?)
    gretchenfrage: who turns 90 tomorrow? (yes, correct!)

  46. ” I’ve never got what the insane hype is about JK Rowling’s Harry Potter books, ”

    Errm, I don’t think anybody actually believes JKR’s stories really happened anymore than anyone imagines that Martin Chuzzlewit and The Wife of Bath were real people. If you want to study suckers who live in a fantasy world try David Icke’s website.

  47. Jay

    The Big Thinkers of our time have followed Usama Bin Laden down a lizard’s hole of endless war. The only way for Muslims to get a better deal is for them to reform. Sacrificing hundreds of thousands for a fleeting moment of power, as in Libya, might justify make Al Qaida feel justified in its big collaboration with the USUKIS superpower.

    Killing one Muslim is enough to send you to jahannam, so is that whiff of power worth the sacrifice of the entire population of Syria for example? Company managers are now enjoying that whiff of Victorian, Thatcherite, pre-union power. Obama has just borrowed 5 billion dollars to keep Al Qaida on the addiction of slaughter.

    We can only deal with our politicians. Day by day force them to accept responsibility for the mayhem they cause. The Al Qaida people believe they are better Muslims than anyone. But they will be the greatest losers on the Day of Resurrection when they find that the adrenolin kick the Obamas and Camerons afford them as obedient slaves in creating mayhem, has earned them their place in the Fire.

  48. BrianFujisan

    12 Jun, 2014 - 1:16 am

    andreas w . mytze

    thanks for that…very interesting…i shall look into that

  49. BrianFujisan

    12 Jun, 2014 - 1:59 am

    some People Try and so Might i Cheers Rodger

  50. Andreas Mytze – the failed Israeli assassination attempts on US ambassador and Gen. Dempsey are old stories.

    The publisher-editor of ‘Atlanta Jewish Times’, Andrew B. Alder, in his January 13, 2012 Op-Ed, entitled What would you do? – called for assassination of US President Barack Obama by Israeli Mossad – as one of three options to stop Islamic Republic achieving nuclear capability. Andrew Alder’s three options, were; “Strike Hizbullah and Hamas, strike Iran or “order a hit” on Barack Obama. Either way, problem solved!”

  51. Ba'al Zevul (Diamond Geezer)

    12 Jun, 2014 - 8:32 am

    One contribution from someone who has actually been there and seen it is worth more than any other contribution. Thank you.

    Doug, What you say about Rivlin is valid. However, he has been supportive of Arab interests, and I don’t think he subscribes to the rabid Netanyahu/Liebermann mindset. It’s been suggested – and the evidence doesn’t contradict this at all – that the two-state solution is a dead duck, and it is far more convenient for Israel to continue to pay lip service to something becoming more impractical by the day than to honestly engage in a unified state, which is what Rivlin, I think, would support.

    OK, maybe it’s more of a feeble glimmer of hope, in that Rivlin isn’t fully behind ethnic cleansing. But I think it’s there.

    Compare and contrast the highly partial Martin Indyck, who was Kerry’s negotiator in the last round of doomed talks: an arch-neocon, strongly wedded to Israel, and superficially in favour of the two-state solution. Or Blair, ditto, and rightly ridiculed by the Palestinians for his unconcealed bias. What they want is a set of Bantustans, labelled, but not recognised by anyone as a ‘state’, from which hedge funds can milk large profits on minimal, and inappropriate, investment.

    As long as Israel can continue to insist at the same time that it favours two states and that a separate contiguous Palestinian state is not acceptable, this miserable state of affairs will grind on and on, while Israel continues to steal land and displace Palestinians. I say Rivlin has one basic fact straight; as he said, Israelis and Palestinians are doomed to live side by side…damn it, they’re almost the same people, after all. A glimmer of hope, then.

  52. Ba'al Zevul (Diamond Geezer)

    12 Jun, 2014 - 8:40 am

    * … the same people…

    Too sweeping, sorry. The Sephardim and the Pals are, maybe. The Khazar Ashkenazim have closer bonds with Russians, of course.

  53. That’s the importance of anti-racism and anti-tribalism and to fervor common ground in religions and maybe a move to soft conservatism as a regulation on globalisation and cultural changes.

  54. Israel has its fan club. There are reports that Kiev regime is using white phosphorus shells to bombard the civilians in Slaviansk

  55. Thank you Greennumberplate,your report gives first hand corroboration that the aim of the Israeli soldiers menacing is to clear the Palestinians in order to make way for settlers as the ABC documentary suggests.
    Thank you.

  56. Greennumberplate,

    Thank you. You are one example of what makes it worth while to keep this blog going.

  57. Thank you Mary for correcting Craig’s mistaken confidence in the journalistic integrity of Australia’s national broadcaster, the ABC. The link below shows just how duplicitous and racist the ABC can be in its reporting.

    Wonder what Guano thinks of this.

  58. I would take John Pilger over you any day.

    Ms Fersuson sounds jolly good. Tell her to come back to Britain. We could do with her at the BBC instead of all the Zionist stooge incumbents.

    Anyway just to cheer you up, here’s your national anthem.

    Has Mr Abbott found that plane yet? Oh No. Of course not. He hasn’t had time because he’s been over here in Europe and then in Canada with that nice Zionist Mr Harper.

  59. Ms Ferguson.

    Her husband is fair dinkum too by all accounts.

    ‘In March 2011 on Q&A, the ABC sought out a question for Prime Minister Julia Gillard from political activist Julian Assange in which Assange queried if Gillard should be tried for “treason”. Jones asked Prime Minister Gillard if she had got “carried away” in making an emotional address to the US Congress in which she praised the United States. Jones said “Briefly, when I was a small boy my first impression of America was of the Vietnam War and the fact that young Australians were being conscripted to go and fight in this war and there were demonstrations in streets and the notion of all the way with LBJ and at that time Labor figures were leading the demonstrations. There’s no sort of reflection of any of that Labor tradition in your speech—a sort of cynicism about American power.”[6]’

  60. You’re welcome to have Sarah Ferguson back anytime, Mary — to keep the other one company. You might also like to have Tony Abbott back as well, since your so enamoured with him. You do know he’s a common pommy bastard, don’t you? He wanted to be a priest once. The idea makes my skin crawl but it’s to be expected when you know that the most perverted weirdos are attracted to religion. No one I know likes him.

    Mary, why did you mention the missing Malaysian flight where over 200 people lost their lives? Was that supposed to be funny or were you making a valid point about the incident? Not funny.

    Interesting to observe that you never contribute any commentary that acknowledges the horror of Islam inspired violence. Now why would that be, Mary? I guess that’s why you think it’s funny when hundreds of Chinese die while China wages war with their own Islamic problems in the West of the country.

  61. Ba'al Zevul (Diamond Geezer)

    12 Jun, 2014 - 1:54 pm

    A quick Google unequivocally reveals Abbott as one of the most unpleasant arseholes currently permitted to exist by an inscrutable deity, rather in the Blair mould. Agree.

    But I think China falls rather flat as a model opponent of Islamism. Tiananmen Square (25 years ago last week), anyone?

  62. BZ, Abbott’s out at the next election, unless we discover that Bill Shorten is a secret transvestite, paedophile, kitten-eating vampire — which might make it a dead heat.

    China is certainly thuggish and cruel, but I tip my hat to the Muslims for pitting their medieval brand of brutality against the oriental variety that makes iPhones during the rest of the business week.

  63. PS – Abbott’s existence just might prove the non-existence of God. I might put that one to Alain de Botton.

  64. •Jonathan Cook: How Alain de Botton plays safe with the news – The Editors Yesterday, 5:11 pm
    ◦Great stuff – I proper love Jonathan Cook! NM – Lala Yesterday, 5:35 pm ◾What honest, egoless writing looks like – The Editors Yesterday, 6:20 pm
    ◾Re: What honest, egoless writing looks like – gloriousrevolution Yesterday, 6:36 pm
    ◾Re: What honest, egoless writing looks like – iorarua Yesterday, 9:38 pm
    ◾Watching Simpson the other night on BBC News – he personifies JC’s observations. nm – CJ Yesterday, 6:38 pm
    ◾Exactly! The best bleedin’ ‘presentational technique’ is to tell truths, *especially* inconvenient – Rhisiart Gwilym Yesterday, 7:07 pm
    ◦Re: Jonathan Cook: How Alain de Botton plays safe with the news
    gloriousrevolution Yesterday, 6:22 pm


    Links to all of Craig’s posts have been put up on the Medialens Message Board btw.

  65. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    12 Jun, 2014 - 4:18 pm

    Is there ANY public figure, politician, journalist, well-off and /or seuccessful person, or indeed anyone else who has distinguished him/herself in any way whatsoever whom Mary will not try to piss on?

    I suppose there’s John Pilger. Anyone else?

    What a dreadful old sourpuss.

  66. העסק הביש

    12 Jun, 2014 - 6:31 pm

  67. The Israeli made bullet that killed the teenage Nadim Nawara last month outside Ofer prison.

    Who made the bullet that killed sports-loving Palestinian boy “in cold blood”?

    ‘When confrontations broke out between the demonstrators and the Israeli army, soldiers responded with force and live ammunition. CNN video images have shown the soldiers firing at the demonstrators, who posed no conceivable threat, from a long distance.

    The two boys are among the more than 1,400 Palestinian children killed by Israeli soldiers or settlers since 2000, according to Defence for Children International – Palestine (DCI-Palestine), a group that monitors violations of Palestinian children’s human rights.

    Israeli military forces have shot and killed four Palestinian children or teenagers so far this year, including Nadim Nuwara.’

  68. The typos are getting out of hand. Drinking sessions in the shed? Where’s Sofia?


  69. Habbabkuk (La vita è bella) !

    12 Jun, 2014 - 11:58 pm

    Mary : typo corrected; how about an answer now? :)

    “Is there ANY public figure, politician, journalist, well-off and /or succesfull person, or indeed anyone else who has distinguished him/herself in any way whatsoever whom Mary will not try to piss on?

    I suppose there’s John Pilger. Anyone else?

    What a dreadful old sourpuss.”

  70. Sofia Kibo Noh

    13 Jun, 2014 - 1:01 am

    As you guessed Mary, they had quite a session down in the garden shed.

    With the kind of hangover that can be acquired only with the consumption of secret mixtures and catering industry quantities of superior Malt, Pims, Gin and Sherry, it’s a wonder he can type at all so please give Dad a bit of lee-way with his spelling.

    Here’s why RD isn’t back with us yet.

    Meanwhile in Ukraine the Kiev Junta launched the opening salvo’s of white phosphorous in it’s bid to have Semyonovka twinned with Gaza and Fallujah.

    The book of evidence continues to grow.

  71. Sofia Kibo Noh

    13 Jun, 2014 - 1:12 am

    A question for Dad.

    Why is white phosphorous so popular with your masters?
    Is it the pretty lights, the “crispy critters” or the feelings of invulnerability from the law it’s users seem to feel.

  72. Sofia. How do you do it. Make me roar with laughter that is with your RD link!


    Seriously how much more evil can it get in Ukraine. Willie Pete – the slang name – caused enough horror in Gaza. I expect everyone remembers those scenes of it raining down on a UN school playground.

    Some years back, I went to a talk by Mads Gilbert, the surgeon who went into Gaza to help during Cast Lead. The photos he showed were shocking and are still vivid in my memory.

    The phosphorus carries on burning through flesh down to the bone. He also spoke of horrible injuries caused by metal from some new unidentified weaponry (DIME). The Israelis were obviously conducting experiments on the captive Palestinians. The reviews contain good comments.


    Earlier I was re-reading Craig’s 2010 piece on Vittorio Arrigoni.

    Later on he was assassinated.

    His mother –
    The love of a mother for her son. The last paragraph always has me in bits.

    So much sadness has been created by the cruel Occupiers.

  73. Northern Observer

    13 Jun, 2014 - 9:02 pm

    There have been many tragedies of mass killing and forced displacement throughout the history of mankind. The Palestinians are not special in this regard, they are simply par for the course. What is unusual is the intervention of the UN keeping the displaced Palestinians at the location of their displacement instead of letting them move on to new lands to start new lives, as the Armenian, Greeks and Germans did in recent memory. It is as if the UN and the Arab countries are collaborating for ideological and religious reasons to keep the Palestinians on the “front lines” and suffering. Allah’s soldiers of convenience and the atheists perfect victims. A bloody travesty.

  74. Thanks, Rehmat, may be “old stories” but not well known it seems.
    here are some more details(to correct my memory). The US ambassador in question(to Lebanon at the time) was John Gunther Dean (born 1926 in Breslau into a Jewish family: Dienstfertig). Because of his contacts with the PLO he claims that in August 1980 he was the target of an assassination attempt which he believed was “directed by Israel”. He wrote a book about this: Danger Zones. A Diplomat’s Fight for America’s Interests (2009) which was reported by Barbara Crossette, but otherwise neglected by the “mainstream media” (of course). Because of other “outrageous” claims he was declared “mentally unfit” by his superiors in Washington and went finally to France retiring where he lives today. Well respected in law circles with a long and distinguished diplomatic career in Thailand, India, Denmark etc.

  75. Heartbreaking
    June 13, 2014
    Photos of the week: Devastation for the Negev Bedouin

    This week: The Bedouin village of Al-Arakib is destroyed for the 65th time, Palestinians and Israelis commemorate 47 years of occupation, administrative detainees on hunger strike, Israeli soldiers break their silence in public, demonstrations against asylum seekers in south Tel Aviv and more.

  76. Northern Observer I resent the assertion that the Palestinians should be moved. How dare you. It is their land. How about turfing the Israelis out to whence they came?

    The Palestinian people have sumud, ie steadfastness.

  77. Miss Castello

    15 Jun, 2014 - 10:33 am

    Northern Observer;

    Arrogant Twa*t! You’re worth no more than that.

  78. Miss Castello

    15 Jun, 2014 - 1:54 pm

    Reply to HabbaBabble 12TH June,2014 – 4:18pm

    “Is there ANY public figure, politician, journalist, well-off and /or succesfull person, or indeed anyone else who has distinguished him/herself in any way whatsoever whom Mary will not try to piss on?”

    Yes. The honourable few; of no interest to you.

  79. Can the trolls even begin to imagine the terror felt by a child lying in bed in the dark in Gaza as the Israeli air raids take place?

    2 Palestinian women injured as Israel pounds Gaza overnight
    Published today 15/06/2014 13:30

    GAZA CITY (Ma’an) — A Palestinian woman and a teenage girl sustained wounds Saturday night in two separate Israeli airstrikes on the Rafah district in the southern Gaza Strip, medical sources.

    The military said in a statement that “direct hits were confirmed.”

    The strikes come only three days after Israeli air forces targeted a Palestinian individual associated with Palestinian political and militant group Islamic Jihad in an airstrike that killed him as well as a seven-year-old boy who was walking nearby, and injured another man.

    In the past two weeks, six rockets from the Gaza Strip have hit Israel, all of them landing harmlessly in open areas.


  80. The Zionists do what they do. Because they can.
    They will loss nothing by killing a Palestinian child. or torturing a Palestinians.
    Yes some white liberals will say naughty at them.
    But the Zionoist will respond, “That is antisemetic”, and shut the white liberals up.
    The change will come when when Muslim nations reunite. When Sykes picot is reversed.
    And a Unified Muslim Army removes what the UK created in Palestine. When these young boys you see beaten in that video have the guns, and the soldiers you see in it have nothing but stones to protect themselves. Will they be so brave?

  81. Ramallah, June 20, 2014

    A 15-year-old boy was shot dead on Friday morning as the Israeli military continued to use crowd-control weapons and live ammunition against civilians in the search for three Israeli teens.

    Mohammad Dudeen, 15, was killed by a single live bullet after dozens of Israeli soldiers descended on his home village of Dura, near the southern West Bank city of Hebron, overnight. The soldiers raided the village as part of a weeklong crackdown on civilians in the West Bank in response to the disappearance of three Israeli teenagers on June 12.

    “Israeli forces have increasingly resorted to the use of excessive force, recklessly firing live ammunition and rubber-coated metal bullets at civilians, including children,” said Ayed Abu Eqtaish, Accountability Program director at DCI-Palestine. “While Israel claims to open investigations into incidents in which children are harmed, impunity reigns for Israeli soldier violence against Palestinians.”

    In sworn testimonies given to Defense for Children International Palestine (DCI-Palestine), eyewitnesses stated that clashes erupted between local residents and soldiers as the Israeli military forced entry into over 20 homes. Soldiers used crowd-control weapons and live ammunition against youths throwing stones.


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