Water Damage 167


The FCO claim that records of extraordinary rendition flights to Diego Garcia were destroyed by water damage is an insult to all our intelligence. The FCO is refusing to say where the records were at the time, or what else was damaged in the (presumed) flood. This is of a piece with, but much more serious than, the “accidental” shredding of all Tony Blair’s parliamentary expenses claims. It is not that they expect us to believe them – they just don’t care. They have the power, and we don’t.

Just as much an insult to our intelligence is the new scheme of security measures at airports. These are all to do with maintaining the fear levels that keep the population compliant, and nothing to do with aviation security. If you have some kind of bomb inside an electronic device, you need a power source to trigger it. The last thing a bomber wants is a flat battery.

It is over twenty years now since I went on a MI6/SAS hosted course at “the Fort” near Gosport. One of the things we were shown and had explained to us, was a laptop which had been converted into a very effective bomb incorporating a slim sheet of semtex. That laptop could switch on and work absolutely normally. The laptop battery was the power source for the detonator.

Explosives detectors at airports would today pick up the semtex. That a mobile phone with no power source could be a bomb, in a way not immediately spotted by x-ray or explosives detector, is a nonsense. If you want to cause real damage on a plane, buy two one litre bottles of 50% strength premium vodka in duty free and set fire to them. You would be surprised at the extreme heat that can produce in a confined space.


167 thoughts on “Water Damage

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  • Je

    Yeah, its absurd. With all this publicity they’re hardly going to use a non-working device to hide a bomb, if they ever were to begin with. If that’s your test for whether it has a bomb in it – turns on – its a recipe for 100% failure in detection.

  • Mary

    That was a good find yesterday by Dreoilin.

    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/07/doune-the-rabbit-hole-2/comment-page-3/#comment-465485

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    Yes watch it Craig. They will have you for incitement to create a act of terrrrrr or some such. Did anyone know that there is this swamp of terrrrrr legislation?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_Acts

    and those convicted in the UK –

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_convicted_under_Anti-Terrorism_Act_in_the_United_Kingdom

    Surely that page needs updating. It ends in 2006. Or are there people being held in Belmarsh awaiting trial?

  • m

    In a month or so time the security tax is going up considerably, 120% in some cases in the usa.This way they get to justify the extra cost with being soooo busy.

  • Mary

    ‘This is of a piece with, but much more serious than, the “accidental” shredding of all Tony Blair’s parliamentary expenses claims. It is not that they expect us to believe them – they just don’t care. They have the power, and we don’t.’

    It’s called ‘laughing in our faces’.

  • Rob

    Yes Minister. Prescient as so often. Or maybe they just knew very well how it all worked:

    Jim: How am I going to explain the missing documents to the Mail?
    Sir Humphrey: Well this is what we normally do in, circumstances like these. [hands over a file]
    Jim: [reading] This file contains the complete set of papers, except for a number of secret documents, a few others which are part of still active files, a few others lost in the flood of 1967. [to Humphrey] Was 1967 a particularly bad winter?
    Sir Humphrey: No a marvellous winter, we lost no end of embarrassing files.

  • Ba'al Zevul (With Gaza)

    I am constantly struck by the total incompetence of these bombers, and their technical naivety. I think I had better say no more.

  • John Goss

    “Did anyone know that there is this swamp of terrrrrr legislation?”

    Yes me Mary. It is there, as Craig rightly says, to create fear. There is increasing legislation to protect those who dream up ‘terror’ events to make the sheeple think Muslims are an enemy, or Islamaphobia, as it is now termed. It works like this. The security services create a false flag event. Let’s assume that Lee Rigby is a fabrication of the intelligence services and a photoshop image of a smart soldier in red uniform who never existed is created, as Chris Spivey suggests.

    http://guerrillademocracy.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/chris-spivey-exposes-woolwich-lee-rigby.html

    Once created the myth is kept going and parliament is kept largely in the dark with the prime minister having the last say in any connected issue. So new laws protecting the secret services (who today are more unaccountable than they have ever been) are further protected from accusations against them.

    http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5320/mi5-and-mi6-tell-mps-to-censor-key-report-on-lee-rigby-s-killers

    We have moved into a virtual world the media of which puts out so much shit every next deposit is a growing mountain of stinking effluent to cover up the last dump. “It is not that they expect us to believe them – they just don’t care. They have the power, and we don’t.”

  • Porkfright

    Frankly, these goings on would sit happily with anything done in the maligned states behind the Iron Curtain before 1989. Proof if any were needed that those in power don’t give a s*it. O/T I see that the Metropolitan Elite are going to investigate themselves over alleged paedophilia. Or apply the whitewash. Take your pick.

  • KingofWelshNoir

    Yup, they are taking the piss, and they don’t care because they don’t need to. They know a small coterie of people such as the sort who post on this blog will be incensed, but the masses will accept it all with bovine docility. They will be queuing up at the airports to say on camera how glad they are to be more secure. Frank Gardner will wear his graveyard face and talk ominously about Jihad. And the rest of us will feel like the kid in the Emperor’s New Robes. Thank God for the internet. At least now we’ve got Kid-in-Emperor’s-New-Robes support groups.

  • Clark

    The new searches are a threat to anyone carrying leaked files when they fly. I suspect that’s the real reason.

    This looks like a highly intrusive development. People will get used to surrendering their devices to security staff. What will happen to the confiscated devices? If they were confiscated on “suspicion of terrorism”, does that give the authorities powers to copy personal data from the device?

    How long until it’s announced that fully functioning devices can also be rigged with explosives, and therefore any computing device may be confiscated?

  • Clark

    Some time ago I read that on landing in Israel, passengers are told to log into their Facebook and e-mail accounts so that “security” can inspect them. Those who refuse are turned away. CCTV presumably videos the keystrokes of those who comply, recording their passwords.

  • Ba'al Zevul (With Gaza)

    If they were confiscated on “suspicion of terrorism”, does that give the authorities powers to copy personal data from the device?

    Who needs “powers” any more, Clark? And they’d have to be checked before entering the new, lucrative second-hand ipad market…er, to protect the customers.

  • Ba'al Zevul (With Gaza)

    …on landing in Israel, passengers are told to log into their Facebook and e-mail…

    Nice to know that Blair’s secret life is at least known to the Israelis. He arrived in Tel Aviv early this morning.

  • John Goss

    KOWN

    If we stick with the ‘sheeple’ definition of the masses I think it works better with ‘ovine docility’ making way to extend the metaphor to us few black sheep. Baa. Baa. 🙂

    A classmate was attacked by a cow (not a bull) on a school cross-country run and it shredded his shorts. It shook him up a bit too. That was hardly a docile beast.

  • John Goss

    “Nice to know that Blair’s secret life is at least known to the Israelis.”

    Blair’s secret life has been shredded.

  • Briar

    When people behave like sheep it is because they follow the same logic as sheep. When you are part of a herd it reduces the chances of becoming a victim. one of your unluckier comrades may be taken by the wolf instead of you. A lot of the people who automatically fall in line with the official narrative (about everything, from the (non) necessity of cuts to the demonising of Unions and their fight for social justice to what is happening in Gaza) are simply keeping their heads down and hoping not to be noticed. The fact that the NSA may be monitoring their most privately shared thoughts will ensure this reaction is reinforced. Thinking is dangerous. Don’t.

  • PhilPalmer

    “The fort”? The next time I gallop into Gosport on an expiring horse with a hat full of arrows I will know where to go. The narcissism of our security forces never ceases to depress me.

  • KingofWelshNoir

    Hi John,

    Nice to see you again. I know you are kidding but the fact that cows occasionally go nuts and kill people makes my analogy even better, I’d say. This is precisely why the shadowy puppetmasters spend so much time pretending that they worry for our safety, when of course all they really worry about is their own. Because occasionally the masses do wake up and go bonkers for a while, then they go back to sleep.

  • Clark

    Come to think of it, I wonder if there’s a GCHQ/NSA scheme to harvest usernames and passwords via CCTV. If there isn’t, I’d be surprised if private security companies hadn’t at least started such a scheme. Facebook implemented facial recognition on their users’ photo’s over a year ago; it should be easy to modify such software to recognise laptops, and translate the videoed keystrokes into simple text.

  • John Goss

    I thought the trolls would be around to try to deal with the Lee Rigby conspiracy. Where did he go to school? Who remembers him there? On what day in July 1987 was he born? On what day was he married? Here is a funeral obituary for which nobody has taken responsibility. It says he was an avid football fan. What team? A lot of unanswered questions. And where are all the newspaper gossip pieces ‘I remember Lee’ with photos? Hmmm.

    https://www.funeralzone.co.uk/obituaries/51

  • John Goss

    “Hi John,

    Nice to see you again.”

    You too KOWN. I’ve just got back from a resort in Poland, Świnoujście, devoid of Englsih speakers, a closely guarded secret, but plenty of Germans. A few cows wandered onto one of the beaches 🙂 but it didn’t stop the mass swell of bodies cooking in their own fat. It was pigging hot!

  • Clark

    Myself:

    “Come to think of it, I wonder if there’s a GCHQ/NSA scheme to harvest usernames and passwords via CCTV”

    Airports and other travel waiting areas would be ideal for such surveillance, especially for commercial or corporate espionage, with many busy business travellers all crowded together under comprehensive CCTV coverage, and local security offices for the required computer systems. This would be highly lucrative, so it would be surprising if it hasn’t been implemented, or at least considered, by some country or company.

  • geomannie

    If you drill down into the ban on traveling with dead batteries this new position is absurd. Logically all batteries should be banned from aircraft hand luggage as they are are a serious fire risk, either by accident or by design. The average laptop battery carries so much energy that an aircraft could be seriously imperiled.

    This is lovingly lampooned at http://xkcd.com/651/

    Its also easy to extend Craig’s point about strong vodka. What about, in addition to setting fire to the stuff, a terrorist where to then smash the bottle and use the neck as an improvised and lethal knife?

    Thanks goodness that terrorists are too stupid to realise that they already have the means to down an aircraft at their disposal.

  • DoNNyDarKo

    Security at airports has always been a mystery to me. The duty free anomaly is one of them.The orders which are stacked onto shelves in airports are not subjected to big security measures.They are delivered pretty much like normal goods to any retail outlet.So explosive coctails could easily be smuggled in.
    As you say Craig, not necessary as Vodka or Stroh Rum 80% would make excellent fire bombs… or you could just break some of these chunky bottles holding onto the neck for a rather nasty weapon… much worse than a box cutter.
    I was in a rush at Vienna last week and was last to the gate.It was a security check and xray at the gate.. I just threw it all on the conveyor,concentrating on getting my belt off but forgetting the lappy and the water bottle in my rucksack.It went through without anyone noticing as the security crew were chatting and joking with each other.
    This latest round of scares is to prepare us for the next false flag caused by unseen enemies using undetectable explosives.Teeing us up as it were.Just read that low grade atomic material and chemical weapon agents have fallen into the hands of the new terrorist Brand “ISIS”. Somebody mentioned that the US has given Indian names to their weapons, well it the acronyms seem to be dates for their false flag deeds. 911, 7/7.
    We’ll swallow anything. Even an airliner disappearing into thin air.

  • Trowbridge H. Ford

    No ideas about why the records of Britain’s role in the extraordinary rendition of alleged terrorists were destroyed?

    How about all the lying to Chief Constable of the GMP, Mike Todd, who had been assigned to investigate it?

    You remember him allegedly taking off his clothes on Snowdonia that bitter night while doing so, conveniently dying of hypothermia.

    Raising questions about his demise is the last thing that Britain wants now.

  • Mary

    Welcome home John.

    Rob. The grey man John Major was on the One Show last night. Told them that everybody watched Yes Minister and that meetings had to wait for him and his unlovely crew to watch the programme. Did he have Edwina on his lap when they watched it together? What an unlikely pairing that was.

    Donny Darko. You are spot on. Do you sense a FF in the air at the moment like I do?

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